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Right now, we've got the best quarterback name ever. Johnny Utah right now is thirty seven percent of that vote.

Last place is Jackson Dart. Okay, what's that all about. Well, it's the new guy. Maybe people aren't aware.

Of him, hasn't earned it yet.

Yeah, he was at USC. He goes to old Miss mel Kiper now has him the tenth overall pick by the Saints. He also has Shadoor Sanders going to the Giants at three. So when people say, you know, is he going to go ahead of Shador Sanders, mel says, Shadoor Sanders is going to go three to the Giants. Once again, we got a lot of time before the draft. We got a month before the draft.

Yeah, you take that whole thing with Shadur wearing the Giants. Did he have a Giants cleeton? I think it was man wouldn't that be something if he ended up going to the Giants.

Well, I think he's always thought that he was going to the Giants. I think he made reference to Malik Neighbors. I think that there's been subtle or nuanced messages about going to the Giants, that Hey, I'm going there and I'm going to turn that team around, just like I did Colorado and Jackson State. I think that's the feeling. Can't wait. He's got Molik Neighbors there, not afraid of the New York spotlight, and he'll be ready to go. Is it the right place for him? Is it the

There's been a few reports out there that Justin Fields was offered a just a little bit lesser contract by the Steelers. If you're trying to restart your career, would you take just a touch more money with the Jets or stay with a safe franchise like the Steelers? No one's really questioned that yet.

Yeah, but it's only a two year deal, so they didn't really sign you up long term.

But if you're trying to restart your career, they were going to maybe give him the reins to the franchise for one year.

Yeah, but the Jets I got some new coaching staff and granted it's the Jets, but he may have said, look, do you want me? How badly do you want me? We're not sure if we want you, so he I think they gave him an offer that he could refuse because they're still waiting for Aaron Rodgers. But we're all waiting for Aaron Rodgers. Recapping the day, so Bill Kuer always great to talk to him. The first four, it'll be Saint Francis Pennsylvania, Alabama State, North Carolina, San Diego State.

Good morning Dan? How are you guys? Great Nate, first time caller, longtime listener six two one ninety, trying to swim down. I just heard that Bill Tower interview. And what I love about you, Dan, is that you're able to get something out of these coaches because these coaches have so much experience, they have so much understanding of every process that happens in the game. But a lot of them, because they're so caught up in the details, you have to bring that out of them. You have

Thank you, Nate. But you know I always talk about people say, oh, you ask great questions, and I always say, what are the answers, because that's really all that matters. I can ask what I think is a great question, I get a great answer. I just want to let you talk. And I think that's always been sort of the game plan here. Just let you talk and hopefully you say something. I pick it out and then maybe I go in a little deeper there. But they have to be willing to talk. Now, could I conduct an

Come on? And dan? Uh just talking about the mighty Munsi Central Bearcats that lost to Milan Aka Hickory in nineteen fifty two, that won more state titles than any other high school in Indiana, did not win a game last year in high school basketball.

Well, thank you, Norman. That's a stat of the day, Marvin wooh.

How stead of the day?

Stanta Day, Statuta day, stand outa day.

This is the stand of the day. I didn't know I was going to get a Hoosier update, but I did. By the way, Luka Dancik had twenty one to fourteen and nine rebounds. Lakers beat the Spurs. Since they traded for him. The Lakers are nine to one at home. The Rockets came back from twenty five down in the fourth quarter beat Philadelphia. In the last six weeks, the Sixers have blown fourth quarter leads of twenty five and twenty six points. Congratulations. Fifty two players now have scored

The chance for less teams to complain about not making a tournament since there's already so many teams in the tournament.

Anyway, wordy, but I'll accept it. NCAA tournament expansion is blank, Paul, months away. Baseball starting the season overseas is blank. By the way, the Dodgers beating the Cubs today this morning, Dylan lame, now good for the Dodgers, Seaton, lame.

Marvin literally un American, Paul, easy to miss. I would say disappointing.

Just just play spring training games a couple of spring training games. Houston Rockets are blank Dylan, intriguing as a flat Seaton, youthful Marvin, aawish. No, they used to be aauish.

Yeah, like eighteen months ago, those guys were playing AAU basketball. Now they're an NBA, Paul.

The Houston Rockets are blank, good but a little faceless. The Houston Rockets are dangerous. The Steelers starting quarterback next season will be blank Dylan, uh, probably Aaron Rodgers, Seaton, Mason, Rudolph Harvin.

The guy who wears a Shawl.

Paul A Pro Bowl alternate MM alternate.

The Steelers starting quarterback next season will be Mason Rudon. Oh no, that's lad.

Jump on board the bandwagon.

Come on, buddy. Yeah. Calling in sick to watch the tournament on Thursday is blank, Dylan.

A waste of a sick day.

Just watch it at work, Seaton. I agree with it's a waste of a sick day. Yeah. But there are certain jobs where you can't watch the tournament though.

Name one.

Yeah, like being a school teacher.

Oh, you're right, you can't watch that.

You can't roll on the TV and put on the tournament.

Did you ever have a teacher who and and you know, now decades after I was in high school, they might have been hungover and then they would play a movie but it had nothing to do with the class that you were in. It would be like, uh, you know, and I was part of the audio visual team, and uh so you have to set up the TV monitor and then all of a sudden you turn out the lights and then you look over and you see mister strunk, was you know, sound asleep? Yeah?

Yeah, I had a religion teacher that sometimes if he was in a bad mood. We would come in and he would just be listening to Bob Marley.

That's it.

That's all we're doing today is listening to Bob Marley.

Sick.

Yeah, yes, Marvin.

My social study teacher brought in the VHS cassette and we just watched Hoop Dreams.

Oh social studies. Yeah, social Yes, you.

Can tell they were hungover if they didn't even have the lights on when you got into the room.

Yeah.

Call in sick to watch the tournament on Thursday is what Marvin.

Something, Ray and Dylan do.

Yeah, well, no, they're here. They don't call in sick. They're here.

But if they were like lawyers or doctors or something important, that's something they would do.

They could never become lawyer.

No, no, I know, I know, I know in an alternate universe they actually have lawyers.

No doctors, though, calling in sick to watch the tournament on Thursday is blank. Paul, to be commended, well, to be Commendeday, I never did that call in sick. I'm trying to think if I called in sick for oh opening day, Red's opening day. I called in sick one time and I went down there might have been nineteen seventy and went down to Riverfront Stadium, big Red Machine. Yeah, opening day, it was a big deal in noon start, Yes, but would you.

Call in sick?

Would you?

Like in high school, did you ever call in sick or sick?

No, just that just going to see the reds one time. But I don't think any Like my mom was on to me, you know she you know, it'd be like, all right, if you want to call in sick, you call in sick, because I'd be like, oh man throat early store, all right, you call in. And then I was like, I don't want to call in the secretary, you know, the principal's office. So I never did. But she wasn't going to do it. She was not going to do my dirty work. Yes, deal.

Well, the worst would be if she's like, all right, if you're that sick, I guess we're going to the doctor today. Then you're like, well, not that sick.

Well no, my mom was not like Fritzie's mom where you have a coffee. There would have been an ambulance. Yeah, poor Fritzie. I mean his mom would take him to the doctor no matter what happened. Like any he sneezed, got to go to the doctor. I remember she was disappointed that they didn't get shots one time, him and his brother, and she told them that she wanted them to get shots first. I don't know what it was,

Yes, not even in a positions office. Yeah, I mean, come on, that's a tough one. If all you did was sneeze.

Yeah, well, hopefully not while you're getting that done.

You just have a sore throat.

You might send that thermometer through a wall like a jabbler. What was that Todd's getting his temperature taken rector? Alrighty, this is why we don't win sports semis right here, this is it? All right, We're gonna take a break. Seth Davis from CBS Sports. He will Well, we got a few college basketball things to talk about. More of your phone calls as well. We're back after this.

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On this date in nineteen ninety Loyal to Marymount beat Michigan one forty nine to one fifteen, highest scoring game in NCAA tournament history. Let's bringing Seth Davis he of course from CBS Sports. You know, that Loyal and Marymount team was so far ahead of everybody in basketball when you think about what they were doing when they were doing it. This is what the game is now, certainly in the NBA.

Yeah, and it's kind of you know, when you mention that, you know, so many unbelievable memories obviously from not only that team but that era, and it's it's interesting that nobody has really tried to do that. Now we have the analytics, and we have the three point shot and the spacing and all of that, but just the frenetic

Is that really basketball?

I mean are they trying to win the thing about that Loyal and Marrimount team is they were really good. I mean they won a lot of games playing that way. It's just interesting that you know, in today's era, especially with the portal, you think a lot of players would want to try to play that way.

But also it's a we want to take a three, We'll give you a two. We're going to take a three. And Paul West had, you know, had great shooters on that team, great scores on that team, and really you haven't seen anybody replicate that in Division one basketball, which you know, given the fact that everybody wants shoot threes, you would think that that would be something if they found a couple of really good three in d guys, that you'd be able to incorporate that. All right, I

Seth, I do not like the better question.

What if North Carolina makes the Sweet sixteen, does that mean they deserve to get in?

No, the tournament is nuts. Stopped trying to make sense.

Everybody wants to make s Oh, Gonzaga, that means they shouldn't have gotten Remember which tossed eight didn't get the right seat on that show? No, No, no, no, no, no, the tournament it all starts over again. There are a lot of teams that are not in this tournament that could win a few games. We've had two teams in the last fourteen years go from the first four to the final four. We don't need to get off another tangent. But I happen to be a proponent of expansion partly

Could we have total transparency with the selection committee and they would allow us to see and hear what goes on behind the scenes. Is that asking too much invading somebody's privacy to let us see, so there is no discrepancy, so we do hear the arguments here?

Right, So I start with this baseline, no matter what happens, when that Brackett comes out, people are going to be pissed, and some opportunistic governor is going to do whatever he does, and everyone's going to get on social media. Everybody's going

It's just the nature of the zeit, guys.

This happened with the college football playoff when Alabama didn't get in. So I think the basketball committee, I think the football is way behind on this, and I understand this is the first year that they've done this. The basketball committee in the nca in general, has been extremely transparent about the process. Why do you think there are two hundred and fifty or five hundred bracketologists out there all using the numbers everything is out there. At the

So look, I disagree with the North Carolina decision.

By the way, go to all these bracketologist who are up in arms. All of them had Carolina in their first four out. Many of them had Carolina as their first team out or their second team out. And every year there is a team that comes sort of from further down the list. But people don't expect to be in it's a little unfortunate that this year that team happened to be the school where not just someone on the committee, but the.

Actual chair of the committee is.

The ad from that school, and he's gotten an incentive in his contract. It's all Bubba mice. Dan, I disagree, but that doesn't make it corrupt.

Yeah, I just there's so much money at stake, there's jobs at stake, you know. I just I want to make sure they get it right. It's just like the college football playoffs. I want to make sure they get it right.

Wouldn't you agree that that there is no right at the end of the day. It's otherwise. The better answer, Dan, would be, let's not have any human beings do it. Let's have an algorithm and let's plug in the numbers and let's let the AI computer or whatever will use your image AI generated to you know, but why even have.

People in the room.

It's subjective. You're going to get what the football went from four to twelve. That means whoever's thirteen is going to be mad.

It's just it's just math.

Okay, So why don't we do that? Or why don't we let Vegas decide who are the teams that should be in.

There's a case for that.

Listen, I've made the case, and I'll give Joe Lonardi credit for being one of the first to really say this. People talk about the eye test. I don't think there should be an eye test. Oh look at them. They both like, you see your vine and you see San Diego. Look at this game, they both. Have you seen every team play every game this year? Because I watch a lot of basketball and I haven't done that, but those

Blah blah blah. Win enough games and you don't have to worry about it.

Seth Davis from CBS Sports joining us. Let's say Duke doesn't win the National title. Let's say Duke maybe bounds out in the Elite eight. Is there a scenario where Cooper Flag would come back to Duke?

In your opinion, there's a better chance that I will play for Duke next year. And by the way, I do have eligibility that Cooper Flag there is zero chance.

And he should.

I would not suggest that anybody make that kind of a decision based on the NCAA tournament and what happens in the postseason. Who knows what happens in this tournament. He's going to be the number one pick in the draft. Yes, he can make good money coming back to Duke. He

I come back?

Like I had such fun like what if I come back? And Ka basically told him, well, you don't have a scholarship here and you don't have a roster here.

I don't want that on me. Go pro go make your hundred million dollars.

So let's Cooper flyg get paid.

That's a great question, and he wants transparency. That's what I'd like to know.

I would guess neighborhood of eight million all in right between. He's probably getting two from Duke and their whole collective. I mean, he's got his own new Balance.

He's got to get more from Duke than the guy at Kansas State got two million dollars.

He got two million dollars from their collective. But Cooper Flag is a unicorn in terms of his market. I mean he's got his own shoe deal, he's at the signature Nike's school, and he's got a new Balance deal.

That's pretty good.

That's my hat's off the hip man.

But but you don't want to Brown.

I want to shout at his agent at SAA, that's pretty good.

You don't want to go to the Wizards though.

You know what, It's funny.

I grew up a Wizards fan, and I went down to Durham to interview Cooper Flag and a couple of guys for Fox Sports.

I said to him, I said, you look pretty good in the Wizard's uniform, but.

They're not gonna win. Look, it would be the most Wizards thing ever to not not they're gonna pick third or whatever whatever the lowest on.

We weren't you a Bullets fan before then they became because I remember seeing the ball the Bullets with Wes Unseld and Phil and Elvin Hayes.

Elvin Hayes, Yeah.

Do you remember the old Capital Center with that sort of concave. Yeah, yeah, out in Landover, Maryland. My dad of those games back in the day. We are old, d and we are old.

The transfer portals effect on college basketball, good or bad?

I think it's I think on balance it's been very good. I think that I would like to see maybe for the second time transfer you have to sit out of here. That's really what happened. People talk about the portal. The portal is just a database that allows everybody to see who wants to transfer, who doesn't, and help you to get in touch. What really happened was it used to be if you transferred, you had to sit out a year, and it was only in like a couple of sports.

So they ended up getting rid of that.

That's part of why, you know, I'm hoping at some point it seems inevitable then they just make them employees, let them unionize, get a collective bargaining agreement, and maybe maybe it gets rectified that way. But you know, I see and I understand, like when people will say, oh, you know, these mid major teams, they have a great player, and then he can just transfer up, and that's not fair to the mid major schools, but they can also

Well, look at Drake, they took players from Division two to fill out that roster. So you're right, you can go down lower if you need to give me the sneaky give me two or three sneaky teams that they may not get to the final four, but they're going to create some havoc.

Well, Drake is definitely one of them.

You know, Ben McCollum came from D two, won national championships there, brought four players. And by the way, you see San Diego as another team, I've got them going to the sweet sixteen. Actually this is their fourth year in Division one, but there's a transition period about being so is their first year being eligible for the tournament.

Yeah, so those are hungry.

But a lot of those guys came from a Division two as well. What I like about Drake dan and maybe this is someone that all the bracket filler routers can look out for. I like I do like teams that is slow tempo because it's you get these stylistic contrasts. So they're playing Missouri, which likes to get out and go, and you know basketball better than anyone. It's much easier to take a team that wants to run and slow them down then take a team that wants to play

I really like.

High Point as a thirteen seed. They won their league last year, lost in the conference tournament, brought a lot of those guys back. They got a guy Bobby Pettiford who played at Kansas Ye now coming off their bench, and they won all year. They won their league by three games. And then McNeice is the other one. Will Wade's got some serious, serious high major athletes. I like high Point because they go seven feet six' eight in the front court and they're six.

Man is a stretch for six.

Nine a lot of times those mid major team teams don't have the size up front.

That some of the high majors. ONE does i Like the panthers Of.

High point give me the vulnerable number, One, SEED.

Well i Think.

IT'S auburn, I mean i think there's any question that they've lost. THEIR edge i think the mantle of being as good as, they are as good as they've been in that league. All, season now, you know maybe they know. Rejuvenate themselves auburn is an, Amazing, story dan and that all of, those guys they got, one guy a freshman point guard To hot petterford comes off.

The bench he was a.

Top recruit everybody else. ARE ted, I Mean jeni broom is the player of, the year spent his first two Seasons At. MOREHEAD state, i mean they got guys who transferred Into from. Division Two, Chad baker mazara came from. Junior college so they kind of they need to get, that back like that chip on. Their shoulder they're much better like, seat biscuit, you know trying to play.

From behind should there be an age? CEILING that i think the point Guard for creighton is? Twenty four is that? THAT right, i mean should we get to the, point where, you know maybe.

Twenty, THREE well i don't think it should.

BE age, i, DO obviously i think it should. Be eligibility, and again this is why we just need to get to, collective bargaining because the Governor Of, west virginia, YOU know, i mean what makes you more popular as a politician or attorney general prosecutor than, you know sticking up for athletes AGAINST.

The ncaaa one thing that is going to happen.

Next year the whole sport's going to get younger because this is the last year of the QUOTE Unquote. Covid senior everybody got an extra year of eligibility.

BECAUSE.

Of covid so you got guys who are playing and if like you had a medical, red shirt but now like they're trying to make it so and these judges are helping them out that the junior college doesn't count against. Your clock so you can play two years in junior college and now and now have five to play Four in. Division one that's not going.

To last. IT'S craziness i.

Tell you we'll talk to you during. The tournament always great to connect.

With you, Love, you dan thanks for having me on and joy.

The tournament, Thank You Sam SETH. Davis cbs we'll come back last call for, phone calls what, we learned what's in store tomorrow, after this.

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Wap, UH so i got my, bracket here don't fill it out. Until tomorrow at at the end of, the show at the end, of business a couple of phone calls in here and let. Me see How about Kennedy. And Nebraska, hi kennedy how were you?

This?

Morning hey?

Pretty good and, first Off Happy?

New, year, no, no no we don't, do that.

Thank.

You no you guys mentioned earlier What jobs dan Camp Watch? March madness? That WORKED and i think you guys said teachers aren't able to and as a Teacher, IN nebraska i can tell you it can be and. Is done that's kind of why extra credit. WAS invented i think to keep an eye on the kids at the desk and keep an eye on creating a.

Newis though, all, right well Thank you kennedy sounds like a teacher who probably gives his students a chance to watch basketball. Extra credit Jack, in. Michigan hijack what's on your? Mind? Today?

HEY dan i think people are making too big of a Deal About. North carolina everybody's getting bent out. Of shape they're not going to be around. That long we don't have to worry. About them AND then i thought about you guys and how you have such an extensive background, in MUSIC and i thought there's probably, a musical a song about every team in, the tournament and this One and linda had this to Say.

About carolina, Thank, YOU jack i respect.

The effort. Nailed, it yep he did. Nailed It jim Jim, In California, hi jim, Good.

Morning dan how are you this?

All spectacular.

Hey to i'm glad you mentioned it a little. Bit ago. About baseball it's lame And. Un americans you have the opening day of our national pastime in a country other Than The united States. Of america never mind an opening Day on march. The eighteenth they should play exhibition games over there and start like they usually do In The united States. Of america AND.

The nfl, oh okay oh we lost HIS quick nfl, Take. There. Marvin yeah SEE.

That's i FEEL like i have more of a problem not with where baseball's opening, day is but the timing. Of it they hate, that it's, you know weeks before the.

SEASON starts i just don't think it's fair to.

These teams what do you have and if you're having these games count and then you play a bunch of games and then they, don't count and then you play games that do, count again what the hell for.

Are you trying to tell me that the best baseball Fan in japan is going to go now it's, a preseason it's. Spring training i'm not going to. Watch that they will show up and they will sell that. Place out at least be fair to the players who have a couple. Of weeks now you have to go back and go back into spring. Training mode IT'S just i don't. LIKE it i understand Why the dodgers want to, do It absolutely and, you know if You're the cubs and you want to try to establish a foothold, over there

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Official, time okay let ME see i mentioned a couple of. Basketball Ones, michael jordan perhaps you've heard. Of him nineteen ninety five announced that he is ending his SEVENTEEN month Nba retirement Mike. And, Florida, hi mike what's on your? Mind?

Today, DANIEL first i want to thank you for all your great interviews over. The years you make people at ease and that you go in directions that nobody else would go into and you get stuff out of them that nobody can get out. Of THEM so i really appreciate your interviews over.

The, years well thank you, Very, Much mike.

You're welcome but and the, net rankings that's the ONLY thing i want. To investigate and let me give. You example at the first of, The year houston lost their first three quad one games and they were still in net rankings. Number three now you explain that. To me how can you lose the zero to three and quad one wins that are supposed to? Be important and still be ranked in the. Net rankings. Number three that. Just

They it, you know there's a no win situation, those players those coaches may, play favorites or we would infer that they're. Playing Favorites jim beheim's on. The program we'll see what. HE says rg three will. Stop by what did you, Learn Today Dylan.

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Three Names, Uh, Seaton yeah axel. In there. It's underappreciated marvin.

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