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Hour 3 – Kevin Frazier & Nischelle Turner, Sean McVay

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ET reporters Kevin Fraizier and Nischelle Turner drop by to put a bow on the Academy Awards Show last night. And Rams HC Sean McVay joins the show to talk about re-signing QB Matt Stafford.

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Speaker 1

You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio Final Hour.

Speaker 2

In this Monday, it'll be busy. Sean McVay, rams head coach, will stop by. We'll we'll head to Hollywood. We'll talk to the co host of entertainment tonight, Michelle Turner and Kevin Frasier. After the Academy Awards wrapped up last night, I had not thought about Conan O'Brien for a long time, and next thing you know, it's Conan O'Brien hosting. He did great job, you know, but we kind of got familiar with Jimmy Kimmel doing it, but Conan O'Brien did

it last night. Adam Sandler had a little cameo there. And I don't know if they're really big surprises because I don't know if we got invested in the movies like we normally do, there'll be one or two where you go lan which one's going to win. I don't know if you were going which one's going to win Honora or what was the Covenant or what was the raf Fines movie?

Speaker 3

Is that what it is? Yeah?

Speaker 4

But it's not like Blockbusters. Didn't Saving Private Ryan get shut Out or something years ago.

Speaker 2

Yeah, big blockbuster movie. That's when Shakespeare in Love won. But did I make a mistake. I had two after parties to go to. I was taking my wife to the Academy Awards and I'm thinking, Saving Private Ryan's got a lot of stars in it. It's gonna win. And so my wife goes, what about Shakespeare in Love. I go, it's not gonna win. Gwyneth Paltrow, Shakespeare in Love. And the winner is Shakespeare in Love. And we went to the after party. It was like going to a wake.

I remember Tom Hanks came in with this Academy award and that was it. I mean, there is no joy in Mudville. Oh my god. My wife goes, do you want to just go home? We went back to our hotel. There was more. It was livelier in the hotel bar than it was when we went to the Saving It Ryan after party.

Speaker 3

Yes, Paul, do you think.

Speaker 4

It's like the Super Bowl loser after party? Because they book it, they do it no matter if they win or lose.

Speaker 2

Yeah, that's probably a good analogy there where they were ready to win. And there are a lot of big time celebrities in that movie. But congratulations to Gwyneth Paltrow and it's Shakespeare in Love. It's a Premier League weekend on NBC and Peacock the top four hopefuls, Aston Villa, it's not Ashton Villa, it's aston Villa and Brentford. Then Sunday All it's Arsenal and they hate Manchester United. The

Premier League weekend on NBC and streaming on Peacock. We'll get to more phone calls, best and worst of the weekend, What you saw that you liked, you didn't like? Eight seven seven three DP show, Good morning if you're watching on Peacock, download the app if you haven't done so.

And Sean McVay ram said coach will join us in about twenty minutes from now, Kevin Fraser, Michelle Turner, the popular co host of Entertainment Tonight, and it's a tradition unlike any other when they join us on very little sleep. Always great to see you, especially you, Michelle.

Speaker 3

I got it, I got.

Speaker 2

A great We've been trying to do comps with the Academy Award winners and also sports guys.

Speaker 3

So here's one for you. Here's one for you.

Speaker 2

Okay McCauley, caukin and Kieren Caukin, Bobby Hurley, Danny Hurley so so McCauley, Caukin a lot of success, young Bobby Hurley a lot of success when he was younger. And then both brothers, Kieren and Danny Hurley come out of the shadows and now they're having their moment.

Speaker 3

I love that, Thank you.

Speaker 5

I would say, I would go even further back, Dan, and I would go to Van Arsdale's brothers. Oh boy, you know, I'll take you all the way back to Van Oursdale's And that's that's where I would I would get in that one out.

Speaker 3

Wow.

Speaker 6

And I was about to say, like the Curry family are like the scars Guards ooh really yeah, uh.

Speaker 7

Okay that dell yeah, I think. I mean, you know, there's three of them. There's three of the Currys.

Speaker 3

Like, okay, okay, I can give you that.

Speaker 7

Yeah, you can give me that.

Speaker 3

I can give you that one. That's that was quality. Okay, what about Demi Moore Matt Ryan so close?

Speaker 5

That was you know what that I would say that or you could say Russell Wilson or anybody from Seattle who came so close but they won.

Speaker 3

They did win one. Yeah, and so That's why Matt Ryan is a.

Speaker 7

Great, a very good one.

Speaker 6

That's or like Charles Barkley even maybe like you know.

Speaker 8

Did you ever really think Charles is gonna win that final?

Speaker 3

Do that to my body? Thought that they were gonna win that finals?

Speaker 6

I looked at it more like Demi will go down.

Speaker 7

In the Hall of Fame. She's had an.

Speaker 6

Incredible career, a long career. We know her, we talk about her. We're going to be selling braiding her.

Speaker 3

For a long time like we do Chuck Dan Marino.

Speaker 2

There you go, oh there, Okay, what about Adrian Brody? What twenty plus years in between wins?

Speaker 3

Yep?

Speaker 2

Is there a sports comp for somebody who won h and then came back and won again twenty Maybe maybe Jack Nicholas at forty six winning the Masters.

Speaker 7

That's got to be the closest day. I'm trying.

Speaker 3

But Jack had so much.

Speaker 5

Adrian has done those two things and that has been it.

Speaker 3

I mean, that role is his role.

Speaker 5

Yeah, And when he plays it and he kisses halle Berry, he wins an hosket.

Speaker 7

That is very true. That is very true, Kevin.

Speaker 2

What would you rather do kiss halle Berry or win an Academy award.

Speaker 3

Come on, I mean, that's not brainer you can pick up.

Speaker 5

You can pick up an Academy award down on Hollywood Boulevard, right nobody.

Speaker 6

I was thinking about this though, Dann, when I knew we were coming on to talk to you and I because there's such this conversation about who's going to be the new face of the NBA and who would like to be And I was thinking, who will be the new face of Hollywood? It has to be Timothy shallow May, right? So is he like the Anthony Edward of Hollywood right now?

Speaker 9

Like the.

Speaker 2

Or like Shay We But you know, Anthony Edwards doesn't want to be the face of the NBA. Does Timothy chala May want to be the face of Hollywood?

Speaker 6

Do you believe that Anthony Edwards really doesn't want to be the face of the NBA.

Speaker 3

Timothy Shallowy's SGA? You think he said Shay Gilchris Alexander.

Speaker 7

Maybe in the way they dress.

Speaker 5

They dress alike, they have that flamboyce. They both say I want to be the best, I'm going.

Speaker 3

To be the boys.

Speaker 6

Yeah, I mean, but I look at it like Anthony Edwards is that guy too? He'll come and tell you in your face, I'm gonna bust your behind.

Speaker 7

He's going to tell you.

Speaker 6

He told President Obama, I'm the truth. Timothy shallow May got on that stage at the Second World.

Speaker 3

I'm the truth.

Speaker 6

I'm chasing greatness. This is what I'm gonna do. And so that kind of is why I make the correlation there. And I don't believe for a second that Anthony Edwards does not want to be the face of the NBA.

Speaker 3

You don't believe him.

Speaker 7

For a second.

Speaker 2

Talking to Kevin Frasier and Michelle Turner from Entertainment tonight, I don't buy into it. But sometimes you hear this, somebody's too young to win, right? Was Timothy Challoway too young to win?

Speaker 3

No?

Speaker 6

No, that wasn't the prim Roady won for the Pianist when he was twenty nine, So no, okay. Timothy Schallomay was also the lead think about this Dan the lead of two of the top ten movies of the year, two of the Best Picture nominees. He was the lead of Doom two, the lead of a complete unknown. The kid is talented, He's got some business with them.

Speaker 5

I think the problem is that Bob Dylan was invited to perform and also to appear or at least present, And Bob Dylan didn't want to say a word about this movie, and I think it would have got helped get him over the hump. I thought it was the best performance of the year with Timothy Albim did and he brought a new audience to Bob Dylan's music. I wish Bob Dylan would have supported him a little bit, and I think it could have helped maybe push him over the huffed a little bit.

Speaker 2

I think we're all better that Bob Dylan didn't perform Kevin. I'm just I'm just saying.

Speaker 10

Somebody.

Speaker 2

Somebody had to say it, and I'm gonna say it, although it would have made Timothy sound even better if they would.

Speaker 3

But I thought he was I thought he was great.

Speaker 2

Here's the problem I had with the movie is Dylan has spent an entire career wearing a mask.

Speaker 3

We don't really know who he is. The movie didn't tell you who he was.

Speaker 2

It just chronicled a time that was really important in our history, certainly music.

Speaker 7

So you that's why it was called a complete unknown.

Speaker 2

Yes you didn't know it you and you still don't know who he is, but it feels like we know him because we've grown up with his music. But you know, I saw Adrian Brody portray somebody and I thought I knew more about the person he was portraying than I did Timothy challow May with Bob Dylan.

Speaker 5

But have you seen Adrian Brody play a similar role before? Yes, yes you have, and he is really really good at that. But I thought it was It was a great performance in a great movie, but it was something of a little bit of a redo.

Speaker 2

I mentioned that I went to Saving Private Ryan after party with my wife because I guess I got to pick between that or Shakespeare in Love. And I told my wife, I said, hun, Shaving Private Ryan is going to be incredible. It'll be They're gonna win all the awards.

Speaker 5

It's like last night, would you have taken the invitation to the Honora Party or the Wicked Party?

Speaker 7

Well, I still would take the invitation to the Wicked.

Speaker 3

Party, or the Conclave Party or the y.

Speaker 6

I still would take the invitation to the Conclave party.

Speaker 3

Yeah, really, the Conclave Party.

Speaker 6

I love me some Stanley Tucci, I love me some rape Fines. I love me some John John Lithgow was the breakout of.

Speaker 7

The Oscars last night.

Speaker 3

And look, you love that movie too.

Speaker 11

I did.

Speaker 5

I loved it, and we must say, look, let's be honest. We are two of the people who did not really think Anora would win.

Speaker 7

No, and and and Dan.

Speaker 6

You know, I will tell you one of my producers had been saying to me for weeks, girl opened your eyes. People loving this movie. They're they're voting for this movie. There's this big swell for this movie. And I kept saying, Okay, I liked it, I didn't love it. Give me pretty Woman over Anora any.

Speaker 7

Day of the week.

Speaker 3

Yeah, if strip Tea's meant animal House, you'd.

Speaker 5

Have a Nora, not animal you know, I mean really literally, I was That's what surprised me.

Speaker 6

Well, Kevin and I both said, it's the Players Club.

Speaker 5

That's like Lila rag McCoy better go get her, better go get her, Oscar her and ice Cube deserves some credit.

Speaker 3

Now, I thought it was.

Speaker 2

I loved it, but the pace of it made me exhausted. I mean, it was just a frenetic but you couldn't take your eyes off of her. Of like that, that's one of the what of what her of her?

Speaker 3

Kevin?

Speaker 6

She was in every frame of that movie, every single frame of that movie. That was a true lead actress type of movie. And that actually thinking about it may have hurt to me more a little bit because Demi was in fifty percent of that movie.

Speaker 3

That's a great point.

Speaker 5

But I still thought this was her night and that Hollywood was gonna love her too, and it was gonna be her moment. And if you look at the video of just as they're about to announce the winner, you see her heart beat and you're like, ye oh God, oh God.

Speaker 2

And I know, Kevin, you've never had that feeling when you're waiting to get your name called for an award. I have, And oh my god, it's just and you gotta be nice. And she's on camera and she's problem. She's been told by everybody you're gonna win.

Speaker 3

You're gonna win night. You're dressed up, I mean, she's ready to go. It was heartbreaking for there. No, I felt so bad for her.

Speaker 7

I did too, because I did too. And think about this.

Speaker 6

She's sixty two, she's been an over sixty film She's had almost a fifty year career in this business. Mikey Madison's twenty five she's been in less than ten movies.

Speaker 7

Yes, and she's just getting started.

Speaker 6

And I'm not one that says give those lifetime achievement Oscars or career oscars. But I do think that this was material that Demi got her hands on that she may not get her hands on material like this again.

Speaker 7

Yes, and this was the moment for her.

Speaker 5

Two people deserved oscars last night to me Moore and Diane Warre.

Speaker 8

Oh, poor Diane war Diane Warren is sixteen in she's got to write a song about losing the Oscar, Like, let's just let's just come out and spoof it and write a song about why do I keep losing this.

Speaker 5

On Saturday Night Live this week on Saturday Night Live, singing that's all right, I'll leave you with this.

Speaker 2

Who had a great night without winning an Academy Ward? Who would stand O'Brien Okay, okay, Halle Berry.

Speaker 7

Yeah, well she has a great night where she.

Speaker 3

Comes back next year? Yes, I hope.

Speaker 12

So.

Speaker 7

I thought he was great, I really did. I thought he was effortless. I thought he was great.

Speaker 6

The only bit that I don't think worked. I thought they should have just brought the first responders and firefighters out and gave them applause.

Speaker 10

I did.

Speaker 7

I don't think the bit landed when they were giving the jokes. I don't think it landed.

Speaker 3

I think Conan is back.

Speaker 5

If Dan you don't want the gig, if you turn it down again, I'm voting for Dan.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I turned it down again. I'm the Diane Warren of turning down the Academy.

Speaker 3

Adam Sandler's there and you're not.

Speaker 6

What's happening in the world and get a came next to wait.

Speaker 3

A minute, Wait a minute, let's get an ET exclusive right now? Are you in? And what part do you have? Wild War two?

Speaker 2

I'm in Happy Gilmore too, and I play a sportscaster. It's a stretch, but I I'm kind of the Adrian Brody of Happy Gilmore Io.

Speaker 6

I love that twenty years apart and it's the it's what makes the movie well.

Speaker 7

I love that.

Speaker 6

Adam Sandler also had on the Steph Curries last night. I know, yeah, he had those stats on last night.

Speaker 3

Thank you guys again. Always great to see you. It's a tradition. Thank you.

Speaker 6

I'm just glad to be invited to the party using the Dan Patrick invitation over Wicked.

Speaker 2

And nor all the Michelle you are the Party. You are the party. That's Michelle Turner, Kevin Fraser Entertainment. Tonight co host will take a break. When we come back, we'll talk to the Rams head coach Sean mcvah after this. Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in the nation. Catch all of our shows at Foxsports Radio dot com and within the iHeartRadio app. Search f SR to listen live.

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Speaker 2

Well sneak in a couple of phone calls best and Worst of the Weekend eight seven seven three DP shows. We wait for Sean McVay, the Rams head coach, Paulie your best and worst of the weekend. We forgot about you.

Speaker 4

I will go best of the weekend. Not just that Saint John's basketball is good again, but Rick Pettino brought out the white suit at the end of the day, and that means they're back. You'll bring out the white suit. The game should have been called when he walked out with the white suit. There's really no chance of beating him with his white suit.

Speaker 3

Worst of the weekend.

Speaker 4

Rob Manfred, major League Baseball Commissioner, to even consider Pete Rose for reinstatement.

Speaker 3

Here's why it's fae. It's fake.

Speaker 4

It's you could have reinstated him many times over the years. There's nothing to reinstate he can't work in baseball again, and there's nothing has changed with what he did or didn't do. It's a lifetime ban. To do it now is just fake platitudes or fake nice guy. Stick with what you did.

Speaker 2

But would you wouldn't you accrue more goodwill by doing it when Pete was still alive?

Speaker 4

Right, he didn't he If he does it now, it's because he knows Pete Rose can work in baseball again and he cannot give a speech at the Hall of Fame.

Speaker 2

Well, that might be right there, that he's not going to give a speech, because Pete giving a speech at Cooperstown would certainly be interesting what he would say. But from what we're told, this is just a coincidence of Baseball reconsidering putting Pete, reinstating Pete Rose, and Donald Trump saying that he's going to pardon Pete Rose. That it's separate things. You know, Pete went to prison for income

tax evasion, and I think that's what now. President Trump was also talking about Pete should be in the Hall of Fame as well.

Speaker 4

Yeah, Pauling and the other thing is another reason Manfred shouldn't do it. Then you have to change a rule. The rule hasn't change. It's a lifetime ban and doesn't go nothing changes because you pass away.

Speaker 2

I just think there's a lot more to the Pete Rose story, and there's probably let's just say, I'm aware that there's a lot more to the Pete Rose story. But does it see the light of day? And that's there's part of me that hopes that it doesn't from what I've been told, But I'll leave it at that. I know it's purposely vague, but I think there was a lot more that was going on with Pete Rose than what Baseball had to acknowledge.

Speaker 3

Let me put it that way. Seton what was the pole question for the final hour of the program, you know.

Speaker 14

We have a quick update on would you rather have very small hands or very short arms? That has come back to a lot closer. Before it was a runaway small hands. Now small hands is sitting at about sixty five percent. The short arms movement is making a.

Speaker 3

Big comeback, okay, a huge comeback okay.

Speaker 14

And then most promising team in the NFL right now, recency bias, but Commanders run away with that one out of the Texans, Chargers and Broncos or other.

Speaker 3

Options, okay from DraftKings.

Speaker 2

Over under touchdown passes for Jaden Daniels for next season after they just acquired Deebo Samuel Paul, I'm going to start with you, Jade and Daniels over under passing touchdowns next season.

Speaker 4

Twenty seven and a half, Todd twenty five.

Speaker 2

And a half, Seaton twenty nine and one a half, Marvin twenty four and a half, twenty two and a half.

Speaker 3

That's surprising. It's called motivation right there?

Speaker 2

Aren't they screaming for you to take the over there? He had twenty five last year. M things that make you go hmm. Twenty two and a half passing touchdowns for Jaden Daniels. And once again, as I said in the first hour, we forget sometimes how you get to your win total. They went to the NFC title game.

Speaker 3

Did we check?

Speaker 2

Did they win six or seven games in the last possession, the last minute of a game? And while I love seeing that, certainly from a rookie quarterback, I don't want to be in that situation because the odds are you're not going to be getting that number of wins, you know, on a semi regular basis. Sean McVay eight seasons Rams head coach and won a Super Bowl champ. I got a story for you. This is fifty two years ago. Yeah, my dad worked with your grandfather at the University of Dayton. Yeah,

so your dad was a grandfather was the coach. My dad worked in computer science at the University of Dayton. He says to your grandfather, give me all of the information, give me all the tendencies of the opponent you're going to play. I'm going to put it into a computer and I'm going to give you this. So my father was one of the first people to ever do this.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 2

So he was helping your grandfather. And I always wanted to tell you that story that he spoke very highly of your grandfather and the fact that he would listen to some guy in the computer science department at the University of Dayton giving all this information and my dad would say, here's tendencies of third and eight of four yard line or what they did in the you know, inside the twenty uh So I always wanted to tell you.

Speaker 11

That, you know that that's and that's incredible. My grandpa was the most humble, just good man. He's a reason why. That's an amazing story. I can't believe I didn't know that and that we haven't connected before to hear that. But he he has afforded me opportunities Dan that I would never have gotten otherwise because of the way he treated people, the way that he always was, so respectful, so humble, so willing to listen.

Speaker 10

You know, I always talk about you know, he was.

Speaker 3

He was.

Speaker 10

I'm gonna listen, learn then I can lead, And he was he was the best.

Speaker 11

He was so steady and uh man, I know this, I would never be in the position that I'm in if it wasn't for the you know, McVeigh family name and legacy that he set.

Speaker 10

And you want to work as hard as you can to make him proud.

Speaker 2

But where we are fifty two, three, four or five years later with analytics, can you be too analytical from a head coaching perspective?

Speaker 10

You know, I think so.

Speaker 11

I think it's a portion of it, and I do think that part of the really good coaches they use that as a portion to make decisions.

Speaker 10

And then there are certain things where the feel for the flow of the game.

Speaker 11

You know, the enemy has to say there's some different things that you have to understand that are going on that maybe, Okay, this is different than what we had planned. There's twenty two moving parts, and so I think the best coaches use that as a part of their process in regards to the decision making. And then the best ones, I think they have a feel for the flow of the game where it's either confirming or oh, this is

a little bit different than we anticipated. And how do we show the flexibility and the fluidity to be able to adjust an adapt in game.

Speaker 3

Why didn't you go to the combine?

Speaker 11

I didn't go to the combine because really we've got such trust in our group of scouts to be able to do the vetting and ultimately the tape is the biggest measure for what we evaluate, and so as coaches, our scouts are a little bit more ahead in terms of evaluating the game tape. They do such a great job with the vetting process using the numbers and similar to analytics Stan, you know, this is a portion of the evaluation, but ultimately we're asking them to play football, and.

Speaker 10

So we want to be able to know the human being, and then we.

Speaker 11

Ultimately want to be able to see what kind of football player they are and what kind of vision do we have to be able to bring them in our environment and atmosphere to.

Speaker 10

Help them be at their best.

Speaker 11

And so there's a lot of trust that we have in our scouts, but I do think that there can be some misleading feels that you can get in some of these fifteen minute increments that aren't necessarily conducive forgetting to know the total human being.

Speaker 10

And that's where there's that trust in terms of the vetting process that our scouts go through.

Speaker 3

How close did it get to you losing Matthew Stafford?

Speaker 10

Okay, you never did, and it never really got close.

Speaker 11

I think the important thing Dan was at the start of this process, you know, and I've been pretty open about some of the communication and the clarity that was deserved.

And I had some growing up to do when we ended up making the move to acquire Matthew for Jared Goff, you know, to acquire Matthew and move Jared Goff, and so wanted to have clear, open and honest dialogue throughout that process, but we never The end goal in mind was always to be able to get him back, and I realized how much I wanted to get that solved when I've been sleeping so much better.

Speaker 10

Over the last couple of nights than I was the previous couple weeks.

Speaker 2

Take me back to the game against the Eagles. I truly thought you guys were winning that game.

Speaker 9

O me.

Speaker 2

You just felt like, but give me the play that you're running through your mind of second guessing yourself at the end.

Speaker 3

Of that game.

Speaker 10

Well, you know, it's funny because it could have worked out.

Speaker 11

So the third and two sequence when we're on the thirteen yard line with you know, a minute thirteen left, you know, we ended up having a little bit of a miscommunication up front.

Speaker 10

They were in a man coverage where they were doubling the coup up.

Speaker 11

We might add a chance if we ended up blocking it up right to be able to hit Higbee on a little whip route or maybe a second window off for Cup from a slant route from the backside. We ended up going negative and that put us in a fourth down situation. But not that you just hated the call, But she said, Okay, if you had that over again, what would you do, knowing that we had two downs? Probably could have run it moved down some more clock You're you're really a little bit less risk averse in

terms of what ended up occurrent right there. So that sequence will stick. But ultimately, I was proud of our group, Dan, I really was, and I thought Matthew played excellent, our guys competed. I thought we got better throughout the year, and obviously Philly is a tremendous team. They went on to convincingly do their thing in the next two games. But that one will sting. But I think it'll sting

so much because of the growth. I don't know that I've ever been a part of a team that I felt like grew as much through so many challenging circumstances throughout the course of the year. And then obviously something way bigger than football with the fires that we dealt with the previous couple weeks.

Speaker 2

We're talking to Sean McVay, the Rams head coach. We had a bet around here, if you've already had your morning pump in your morning lift, Todd, You've said what that Sean had already done his morning lift, yes or no? Yeah, I believe he has all right, Seaton, Yeah, definitely, Yeah, Marvin yes, yeah, PAULI.

Speaker 3

Eight thirty, no doubt he got a lift in. Yeah.

Speaker 10

Oh, you're damn right I did.

Speaker 3

What are you benching now?

Speaker 15

Oh?

Speaker 10

I don't know what I'm benching. I just know that I get up.

Speaker 11

I actually go and work out with Andrew Whitworth. He's got a gym and so I'm not working. I'm not lifting the same as him, but he's keeping me in shape both mentally and physically.

Speaker 10

And so we do that at six in the morning, four days a week.

Speaker 3

But I I'm trying to think who.

Speaker 2

I spoke to a Kevin O'Connell and I said, you know, if we do a combine for coaches and he puts you up there at the top, you know he thought you being competitive that you know going through all you know, three cone drill. Of course, I don't know what you ran there. What was your best forty yard dashtime?

Speaker 10

Well, I mean this is I think my dad had the handheld when I was in the four fives. You know they say four four. You know, let's put it this way. If I ran on an fat at Indy, I'd be lucky to be in the four six is at my best?

Speaker 3

Okay? But yeah, Dan Campbell would dominate you in the bench press. I'm guessing I'm not.

Speaker 10

I'm not messing with Dan. There's no disputing that.

Speaker 3

Who takes credit for Pooka Nakua I.

Speaker 10

Would say this? I think you know.

Speaker 11

I'll tell you who was a huge fan of his. Obviously Less was a huge fan. James Gladstone was a big fan of him before anybody.

Speaker 7

I know that.

Speaker 11

I can remember when Mike Lafleur and I were really watching him and watching some of the different things that we like to evaluate in terms of aggressive hands. Really we were looking for somebody that brought the element of toughness, competitiveness.

Speaker 2

Was explaining aggressive hands. What's aggressive hands?

Speaker 3

Man?

Speaker 11

I think one of the best ways that you can evaluate aggressive hands where you're stepping to the football.

Speaker 10

When somebody's running in breaking routes.

Speaker 11

Do they stay flat? Are they friendly? Are they coming back on negative angles? Are they staying grounded through the catch? Are they able to catch it away from their frame and then immediately get up the field. I think that's where you see some of these special players that have those aggressive hands to go attack the football, as opposed to when you'll see guys running in breaking routes, they might drift up the field because they're not as confident to step back to it. That was one of our

favorite things about Puka, the competitive toughness. At BYU, he was catching a lot of bubbles and running jets sweeps and so a lot of the run after the catch was something that was enticing.

Speaker 10

And you know, if he said, did you think he'd be this good? We had a vision. We thought he would be good. But if he was gonna if we knew he was gonna be this good, we'd be silly to say we were gonna wait till the fifth round to take him.

Speaker 3

What does the Cooper Cup situation him John?

Speaker 11

Yeah, honestly, you know, he's been so instrumental to our group for the eight years. You know, his rookie year coincides with my first year. Dan, this guy means a whole lot to me. He's been instrumental in setting the culture, establishing a legacy that is already cemented as one of the.

Speaker 10

All time rams.

Speaker 11

Think the hard part is is you have to be able to make decisions where you say, all right, where are we going, what does it look like for the collective, and how are you putting this puzzled again year in. How are you putting this puzzle together year in and year out? And so we're in the midst of finding a trade partner for him, and if we're not able to do that, then we'll see what the next steps are.

But that's kind of the process that we're in, working with himself and Ryan Torner to find a trade partner.

Speaker 3

How his fatherhood impacted your coaching.

Speaker 10

It's given me a purpose and a perspective.

Speaker 11

You know some of the things I used to get worked up about Dan, It's just, you know, things you're just reminded of who you want to be when you see that little boy smile at you. How you want to treat his mother, how you want to act in oract and respond the right way to show him what a real man is.

Speaker 10

I've said this before.

Speaker 11

I can remember when went through some challenging times in the twenty two season and we were five and twelve. Man, it really tested a lot of the things. That revealed a lot of insecurities that I had. And you're thinking about walking away from coaching, and the one thing that I think always resonates with me is that I would have never been able to look at my son and say, hey, do as I say, not as I did when adversity hits.

And so you talk about making you better in every form of your life, and man, just bringing a joy and a perspective. He doesn't care about those bad play calls that I've made on Sundays.

Speaker 10

He's just happy to see dad dad.

Speaker 11

And I said that to Witt and Fits when I went on their podcast, and Fit said, yet not yet.

Speaker 10

Once he's old enough, he'll be criticizing you for those calls.

Speaker 3

Can you change a diaper in the time of a play clock?

Speaker 8

You know what?

Speaker 10

I think I can.

Speaker 11

I got to make sure I get the wipes ready if this is the number two, though, But if this is this is the number one, I can do that pretty efficiently.

Speaker 5

I might.

Speaker 10

I think I can do that out of a clock stoppage with twenty five cents.

Speaker 2

Good to talk to you, Congrats on last season, and nice to be able to connect with you.

Speaker 10

Yeah, absolutely appreciate you having me on Dan.

Speaker 2

That's Sean McVay eight seasons as the Rams head coach. And I thought they were going to win that game against Philadelphia. You know, they score a touchdown. You know, once again, here's a guy who coached Aaron Donald. I got to make sure I know where Jalen Carter is and Jalen Carter he disrupted that quickly and then all of a sudden, that changed the next play call.

Speaker 4

Yeah, Paul, if you were listening to that on radio, Coach McVeigh, when you told him about his grandfather and your father, his face was transfixed. He was just loved hearing about his grandfather back in the day.

Speaker 2

I wanted to tell him that story because my father was one of the first to do analytics, if you want to call it. He was just trying to help the University of Dayton football team and that fact that Shawn's grandfather was the head coach, and my dad thought, you can put information in the computer, spit it out, and give you tendencies of what the opposition is going to do. And I just remember those computers were huge. They were the size of your desk when you were

in grade school. It's just it was larger than that. And he kept telling us, and this is nineteen sixty nine, nineteen seventy, and he said, this is the future. And I remember my family, all six of us, were like, we're not part of the future. If that's the future. But we didn't see we saw the computer, the actual computer.

We didn't see what the computer could do. But my father thought, you know, you can get that information, put it in, and you know, he would get all the plays from you know, the opponent, and I remember they were going to play Butler, it felt like, and he got all of their plays that they called that year and when they called them, what was the yard down in distance? And he was trying to help. Sean mcvay's grandfather, John McVay, legendary coach, went on to coach the New

York Giants. But I don't know how much it helped, but I know that he thought that there was something there that's a long, long, long long time ago. Take a break, Last call for phone calls, what we learned, what's in store tomorrow, Fritzie, great job with the guest list today, Peter Schrager, certainly with entertainment tonight, folks, and Sean McVay.

Speaker 3

Well, take a break, We're back after this.

Speaker 1

Be sure to catch the live edition of The Dan Patrick Show weekdays at nine am Eastern six am Pacific on Fox Sports Radio and the iHeartRadio app.

Speaker 2

Last call for phone calls what we learned once in store for tomorrow. Lebron James had seventeen points last night. I bring this up because if you have the combined regular season in postseason, Lebron James has now scored four thousand, nine and ninety nine career points. I don't know who is, Like, who's the second highest scoring active player.

Speaker 4

Active active Kevin Durant all time including everything regular and postseason?

Speaker 3

Is that thirty five one ninety one. I don't think he's going to catch Lebron fifteen thousand? Yes, huh?

Speaker 16

And how confident are we in those tabulations? I don't want to do the Debbie Downer thing. But for all we know he passed fifty thousand a few games ago. Do they really have it exact to the forty nine nine nine? I know we have computers and things.

Speaker 12

Wait, this isn't like letter wonder sometimes, like people have jobs. Maybe twelve points away. He may have broken it two weeks ago. He might be at fifty thousand.

Speaker 2

No, no, no, this was ESPN and they were going to celebrate the fifty thousand Sports Center. It would always be on a Sunday night, every anniversary show I did, it'd be like, Oh, it just happened to be on a Sunday night the twenty five thousand Sports Center. Oh it's on a Sunday night.

Speaker 3

Go figure this.

Speaker 2

Day in sports history. All of that coming up, Shawn and Oregon Sewan, thanks for holding best and worst of the weekend.

Speaker 17

Thanks for taking my call. Dan, I've got to go with the NFL Combine for being the worst of the weekend. You know, I just think this is like way overrated. When I listen to people talk about hand size, I think, well, this is the football bigger in the NFL than it is in college. You know, if they can hold onto football in college, they should be able to do that,

you know. And you know, I'd like to see him, you know, speed When he talked about fast guys, it's nice having a fast guy on your team, But when is the fastest guy in the combine than.

Speaker 9

The top receiver.

Speaker 17

You know, football is your toughness and how you react after catches. And I'd rather see him throw like grease football to these guys and see if they can catch him.

Speaker 2

I'm with you, I'm with you. This is filler, But it's the NFL and what else are you going to watch? And you may know some of these names and other ones you're being introduced to, but I agree. I want somebody who's quick, not fast. The NFL is getting from point A to point B, getting off the line of scrimmage, hitting the hole. You're a pulling guard. You get from point A to point B. I want to know what you do in the first ten yards, not the next thirty yards. Hey, did you see the guy who weighs

three hundred and fifty pounds? He ran a four nine to forty Great? How many times will that guy be running forty yards?

Speaker 3

Yes, Marvin, I'm glad nobody fell for that with John Ross.

Speaker 2

Yeah, John Ross, he was one of the fastest guys in the world. The Bengals fell for that when they drafted him. Was he top ten pick out of Washington?

Speaker 3

That's the Dan.

Speaker 2

Brian Incinnati, Hey Brian, thanks for holding what do you have?

Speaker 9

Hey? Dan? Thanks for calling me. Drew Brees five ten and a half, hard one ninety five I wanted today worst of the weekend. Xavier Musketeers fans. They're the worst people in the world. I went to the Xavier game just because we got free tickets, and uh, I want my UC stuff because I love University of Cincinnati, and I got roughed up even in the bathroom while I was waiting in line, people were sitting there trying to fuck with me about the fact that I'm working.

Speaker 3

Easy, easy, easy, easy. Yeah, you're on a roll there. I'd happy about it, I'll tell you.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, not happy. It's a shame that it's it's been to that point. It didn't get to that point. It is at that point where if you're going to an away game, you can't fly your colors.

Speaker 3

You just can't.

Speaker 2

Certain places you cannot, Unfortunately, Alex in Utah, Hi, Alex, what's honey?

Speaker 3

Miney?

Speaker 18

There's it going, guys. So I probably just had my worst of the weekend just about an hour ago. For years I've been laughing along side you guys about Marvin's hand size, but I finally busted out the tape measure and Marvin, if you could go ahead and send me the information once you get that about the hand stretching guy. Anyway, So I was reflecting this weekend about the NBA with you know, with all I guess the allegations about the

media is the reason that ratings are down. But I was coaching some I was coaching fourteen year olds in the last couple of months, and you know, it was there were friendly games and they were jacking up threes, not paying a lot of defense. But then in the last minute or so of each of these games, if it was closed, then the defense started ramping up. They started doing more cuts and more screens, and the game

was a lot funner in the last minutes. And I realized, like, if you're jacking up threes and not playing defense, I think that's a symptom that you just don't care about the game. And I think that that's what's going on in the regular season. I mean, it's hard to care when ten teams from each conference are making the playoffs. So that's my ten cents, my two cents. So yeah, thanks, thanks for the show today and look forward to hearing more from you guys the rest of the week.

Speaker 2

Thank you, Alex, thank you. Yeah, you can be critical of something, but that doesn't mean you don't like it. And I do talk about positives. Well, look, I don't need to defend myself other people their approach. You know, they may have alternative motives there. I just want the games to be better and if we can tweak them if we see an opportunity to do something different than great. Is the three point shot here to stay? Yes it is, Yes, it is. That's the game. Nothing I can do about it.

Hopefully there's other things that make the game, continue to make the game enjoyable because there's a lot of great players, a lot of great talent there this day in sports history.

Speaker 4

PAULI, nineteen fifty nine, Dan, the San Francisco Giants name their new stadium Candlestick Park. I still call it that because I can't keep track of the different sponsors.

Speaker 3

It was always a phone company. Yes, I think hack Bell, hack Bell. Yeah. Also on this date, I love this one.

Speaker 4

Nineteen eighty two, Wayne Gretzky of the Oilers scored goal number seventy six, seventy seven, seventy eight, and seventy nine. He scored four goals in a game eight different times in his career. He scored five goals in a game four different times.

Speaker 3

Over raiding silly, how about this one?

Speaker 2

Nineteen eighty three, Terry Bradshaw admitted to a hospital in Shariport, Louisiana for surgery to repair his throwing elbow, and he went in under the alias Thomas Brady. You can't make that up, Thomas Brady. Let me see Mike Tyson nineteen eighty seven. I was at this fight unanimous decision over James bone Crusher Smith. Caitlin Clark on this date twenty twenty four, surpassed Pete Maravich become the NCAA Division one

all time career scoring leader. Stephanie in Ohio, Hi, Steph, what can I do for you?

Speaker 18

Yeah?

Speaker 15

Hi, Steph, Hi, Hi, first time, long time, five to two and nobody's business.

Speaker 3

Hey.

Speaker 15

I wanted to give you a best and worse of the weekend. The best by far the NHL Stadium.

Speaker 8

Game.

Speaker 15

It was held at Ohio Stadium at the Shoe on Saturday night ninety four thousand. It was the Blue Jackets winning five to three over Detroit. Really cold. They honored Johnny Gudreau. Ye, it was a great, great game.

Speaker 2

Yeah, photos were great with that stadium rivalry there with the Ohio state in Michigan.

Speaker 3

So you get Columbus against Detroit. So I like it. You know, those are fun. A lot of people showing up.

Speaker 2

Let's go around the room. What we learned on this Monday program, Todd, would you learn to.

Speaker 12

Even though many of us saw very few or none of the Oscar nominated films, we somehow think we know who deserve to win and who got snugged.

Speaker 3

Seaton, what did you learn today?

Speaker 14

Your father and Sean mcvay's grandfather collabed back in the day.

Speaker 2

Yes, they did, back at the University of Dayton, back in late sixties, early seventies.

Speaker 3

Marvin, what did you learn today? If you're in a suit, don't make eye contact with you. No, I'm all business. Paul, would you learn today? We're on Oscar watch from Acauley Culkin Todd. What did I learn today? For those unaware?

Speaker 12

USC is Juju Watkins is the real deal, A great two week player, just different than everyone else out there.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and that's not a shock that's on headline worthy or hot take. She could turn out to be the best player I ever saw. Not impactful like Caitlin Clark, there's a big difference in that, but she does not have a weakness. Well we learned Brought to you by Rapid Radio's official walkie talkie of the DP show, offering national LTE coverage, no subscriptions ever. A great alternative for your kids or parents. We use them on the show. Go to rap at radios dot com for sixty percent

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