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It's our two on this Friday. It's a meat Friday. At that morale is high. We took part of the menu that Scottie Scheffler had at the Champions dinner on Tuesday in Augusta, and we've whipped that up. Firecrackers, shrimp, Texas style chili, we got cowboy ribis, we got blackened swordfish, and we got Azalea cocktails.
Who has it better than we knew? No?
All right, come on in, we'll go to Augusta. Randall Shamblee from Golf Channel will join us. Coming up here in a little bit. I watched a lot of it yesterday afternoon, justin Rose. He's been in this position before. He matched a personal best seven under sixty five. So he's got a three shot lead after the first round, the fifth time he's had at least a share of the lead after the first day at Augusta. That breaks
a record held by Jack Nicholas. His best finish in any of those previous starts was a tie for fifth. That's why if you look at the odds. According to DraftKings this morning, the odds to win Scotty Scheffler plus two hundred, Ludwig Oberg plus six hundred, Rice into Shambeau plus six fifty, and then Justin Rose at plus seven fifty. Rory dropped to plus twelve hundred double bog eat fifteen, double bog eat seventeen. And I'm watching him on fifteen.
It's a great approach. Shot, goes over the flag, goes through the green. Now it's on the back side. Now you got to be careful because that green on fifteen slope so hard in the front that if you get it to a certain point, it's going into the water.
And here's one of the greatest players in the sport and he thinks he's hit the perfect chip, and Jim Nance said right away, uh, oh, it's gone, because you know, if you've played it or you've watched it, you know, if it gets to a certain point on the green, it's gone. And playing Augusta, being around that sport for a long time, Augusta is about your missus. Because everybody's going to hit great shots. It's when you don't hit a great shot, where did you put it? And can
you get up and down? That's why Fred Couples was under part, Freddie is sixty five years of age, and isn't golf unique that you can have somebody sixty five playing against somebody who's twenty five in the same sport. Bernhard longer all those years, he would usually do well on that first day. It's because it's coarse knowledge. There's no other sport that you have that seismic difference between somebody's age and you're still playing in the same event.
Now with the Masters, if you've won the Masters, you get to come back and play, and Freddie won back in the early nineties. But local knowledge it's where you hit it. When you don't hit it where you think you're supposed to, it goes someplace and now you got your miss Golf is about missus, and then what do you do after that? Because if you played with somebody who's really good and then they don't hit a great shot,
well they're still in play. Where when we hit a bad shot, it's like I got to drop one or I gotta, you know, knock this out. Play safe here and we'll talk to Brandal Shambly about that. That local knowledge. You're playing at the same place every single year. The other majors of course, you know they rotate, but you play it Augusta, you know exactly now they have changed it. People got caught up. I know, Charles Barkley came on
the show. I had to set him straight. He's like, I can't believe that they're Tiger proof and the masters.
I said, Charles, shut up.
They did this to Jack Nicholas in the early sixties and he didn't know that they weren't doing. If anything, by lengthening Augusta, they helped Tiger. If you want to really penalize guys who hit it, you know a great distance, tighten the fairways and put some rough in there. Now all of a sudden you're going to get their attention. But if you let those guys blast it out there, Bryce and de Shambo's hitting drives of three hundred and fifty yards, That's what Rory does too. That's a long ways.
When you're hitting driver and then you're hitting a short iron into these par fives, it's a huge, huge advantage. But you must put it in the right place because if you don't, you were cooked. And I brought this up a long time ago my caddy when I played one day, he was the caddy for Sebi Biasteros Sevy one in nineteen eighty. Well, I had this caddy and actually the caddies traded golfers. On the first tea, they
were betting on us, and I got traded. And you know, turns out my caddy caddied for Seve when he won the Masters. And he said to me, when I tell you something, do it, don't question. And I go, okay, what didn't last long? We're on the second green and he said, put it up here. I go up there and he gave me this look like, oh my god, and I said okay, okay, and I didn't quite and of course he was telling me put it up here, and it's going to roll right to the hole, and
it did. We get to twelve, twelve, winds blowing. Let me take a drink here, hacking up along here do.
The caddies there? Are they lifers? Are they the kind of guys who never leave that job and everyone knows them.
Yes, yes, you have a lot of guys who are there that that's their job. But we get to twelve. So twelve is one hundred and forty nine yards. The wind is blowing. On thirteen t the wind is blowing differently on twelve green with the flag, and the wind is blowing differently on eleven green. So it's all right there, and I'm looking around and my caddie goes to give you a club. Don't look at it, just sling it. So he gives it to.
Me and I go, ah, it's wait too much club.
He goes, So put it on the green, made the pot, made a birdie on twelve and he said, do not question me. And I so I did it twice and I didn't do it again. But it's so local knowledge is wonderful. And to get these guys who've been doing it a long long time, looping for a long time, and they'll just tell you take your medicine. Yeah, but I think I can take your medicine. I could get
it right through that little there. Okay, go ahead, and then you hit it into one of these trees and ricochets through the woods.
Nothing like it.
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We had a mishap yesterday. The Danets were playing a little pickleball and everybody had on their pickleball shoes except for Todd, and Todd left his. They're called Tyrol. They're the best shoes you can buy. They came in and gave us these shoes. Well, Todd didn't have his next thing, you know, and he's playing great, and then there was a moment when he was trying to go Rafael Nadal on everybody, and then the mishap happened because.
The typical shoes and sneakers. And I did some research after the fact unfortunately don't help with the different moves and stopping and starting, and you move your feet in different ways. And I should have used the very special pickleball shoes that you guys were wearing, and then I wouldn't have had that problem, and I wouldn't have been at Urgent Care yesterday getting X ray.
Give me the pain level, pain tolerance level that you're on right now.
As I'm sitting here, I'm fine. As soon as I get up, It's like a nine to nine for sure. I can't put any pressure at all on my left heel. It's just I just can't at all. Okay, it feels like there's a glass in.
My wh I saw your car parked as close to the door as possible, and I knew that you were you were hurt.
If there's a way I could have pulled the car in right up to my desk, I would have done that. But it just doesn't fit.
Yeah, as someone who occasionally suffers from foot issues myself, because I do and occasionally get gout, which is kind of humiliating.
To admit.
It is, it's truly awful to have. You're just sitting in every think it's fine in the minute you try to stand up, your like foot feels like it's being torn off your body.
That's just terrible.
That being said, we do have a poll question up there. Which of Todd's injuries was I don't know, worse, I guess is a word we're using more you humiliated? Yes, offter You can read it to the context of what we're discussing here. Worst Todd injury Todd's pickleball foot or his whiffleball elbow. Right now, it's sixty three percent.
Of the vote.
We've got whiffleball elbow that it's still more humiliating.
All I know is when I came in now, they played wiffleball the backroom. Guys play wiffleball out of the fieldhouse. I come back later in the day and they go, you missed it, logo, what do you mean? Todd was unbelievable playing wiffleball. He was hitting you know shots, He was great. And then next day I said, hey, man, you killed it in wiffleball.
He goes, yeah, but I got hurt. I said, who gets hurt in wiffleball? But you did?
Went vax rated on that too, And I was trying to I was trying to convince that you and beat it.
Do be sure.
I don't need Tommy John. I know something not right with my ligamon did not. I always like to get checked the out, don't you doctor?
I had to get looked at him.
I couldn't get my arm at one point I couldn't get full of motion of my arm after I've been swinging a light that like that my hardest like's like throwing a nerf ball when I was a kid growing up. You keep throwing something that has like no weight to it, puts a lot of pressure on your shoulder and arm.
Should we just not include you with this? I like to play.
I just don't like what happens to me when I do play. I enjoyed playing with the ball up until the point that I couldn't bend my arm. And now I'm limping and I'm on basically one foot right now playing pickaball.
This is why health insurance pisses me off. I never go to the doctor ever. I never use it. I never do anything. I have it just in case, like one day something might happen.
Todd's in the hospital four times a week to getting some random knee pain like whatever. This is that day and we both have to pay the same health insurance and try to be crazy.
It is extremely unfair if you think about it that way.
At least I'm using and they never use it. I never Oh my god, yeah no it hurts. But whatever, you just figure it out. No big deal.
I'll just ignore everything. Todd's there constantly, same health and shot.
You know, when the doctor says, don't show up, I'll still knock on the door anywhere I think I still need an appointment. I'm convinced of it.
Okay, this has to do with your upbringing too, Oh, no, quester.
But I went for a throat culture every week because of it. If I had the slightest cough, I'd be rushed for to see if I had strapped throat. And my mom once convinced one of our doctors to give me a shot and the tushes what they did back in the in the seventies, and everything was fine.
He wasn't going to do that.
She went back in the room said something to him, and next thing I know, my brother and I had our pants down and we're getting a needle in our tush. What is that all about?
They don't do that anymore do they They.
Don't, thankfully, because that's that's painful. You would think because of it's a little meaty back there, that's a good spot. It's not.
It's really not your tush.
Yes, yes, I'd like to add to the you add the tush push before I had rectal thermometers to Oh man.
I'd like to add to the pole. Remember when we were doing a photo shoot for like Eddie Bauer shirts, Todd went down when he seat and tackled him literally was ready Flannels in Los Angeles shot a docile floor throwing around the football video. Todd went down on one knee after the catch, came up almost screaming in pain, and had a serious uh rib injury. And then there's of course the hotel in Las Vegas where he fell.
Oh yeah, he got up in the middle of the night, right, Yeah.
I'm way too big and old of this point to be taking flight in the darkness in the middle of the night because I banged my foot in a part of furniture that I didn't know existed there.
I would have loved to have seen you flying through the air. That was the middle of the night, no clothes on.
I was a stupid man instead of Superman. I'm just flying with no cape with a pair of socks, and that's it.
Stupid man.
And the headband that I like to wear, my goat headband that I like to wear.
A bit stupid man, stupid man. A couple of phone calls in here before we take a break. Johnny in Kentucky, Hi Johnny, what's on your mind today?
Hey?
Ben Patrick Show. I tried to get on the say say you first time a long long long time.
Really just wanted to call today my birthday. If I can't get you, guys, give me a sign, a little happy birthday song and another shout out to my birthday bro Marvin, good brother, good brother dead, thank you for put Marvin on. Congratulations sellers for the Emmy Award nine. And I do got a story real quick. I'm making fast, I.
Promises, so I call it every year on my birthday. Oh can hear me?
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Calling every year on my birthday twenty sixteen, eighty fourteenth. Mrio was feeling it for two days. Finally got through. I called the time fully got through super hype. Mario enterest puts me on hold, comes back, bangs the line on me, so thanks changing the time. I'm forgiving him. I'm here now. Thank you, love the show.
Fellas, Thank you Johnny.
How about a birthday greeting Johnny birthday? Thanks talking to you, Johnny, giving you a shout out more? Yeah, Marvin says to me one day, He goes, uh, hey, you know, I don't want people to think there's a we have a Rooney rule here. I go, what are you talking about? He goes, I don't know. It feels like some people on social media saying we have a Rooney rule. I go, no, you earn this? Oh absolutely?
Oh Dan went woke and.
Whoa.
I was like, I was back here. I was a BRG for like three years before I got.
Out here, and then I got mad. I'm like, no, yeah, you're so valuable for this show. Like, no, it's not the d none of that stuff there.
Yeah.
Marvin says that. I go, no, you're I said, you tell me you're joking. You go, yeah, yeah, I'm joking. I like, you know you got the job because you were the right person.
For the job.
Oh, I didn't call myself d I Oh I know I earned it.
Okay, good. I never want you to think that.
Never I mean it helps that your Dan's nephew. But anyway, you're my brownie, James. Yeah, be nice.
Yeah, all right, let me take a break. We're gonna head to Augusta. We'll talk to Randall. Chamblee sounds like something you drink. What are you drinking? Are you drinking the chambla? Yes, I am. He should come out with his own wine. How's the Chamblee twenty twenty two? Oh, it's delish, all right? And then Brent Musburger will join us top of next hour. We're back after this Dan Patrick show.
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Love watching Gulf Central live from use at the Ryder Cup or a major, the Masters, and then I'm always watching Brandal Shambili because chances are he's going to say something to piss somebody off.
He's really really good at that.
But I watched yesterday, Randall, I don't think you upset anybody yesterday.
What's going on? You're going soft on us?
I don't know. I kind of had an off day. I guess. Yeah, I don't know that I've pissed anybody off this whole week. Dan, I'm on great behavior.
Yeah, I don't like that I brought this up.
When you see certain guys like Freddie Couples is sixty five and he shoots a one under, but you know the familiarity there.
He's not going to hit it where everybody hits it.
But as Payne Stewart once said to me, our game is about missus where we miss and being able to get up and down as opposed to wear the average golfer misses.
But that local knowledge.
How much does that play in with Freddie, you know, being up there at least hanging in on the leaderboard.
Yeah, I think in a huge way. I mean, there are a lot of things that I think helped the elderly out Augusta National. The fairways there are fifty five yards wide. Yesterday was just an ideal day for scoring, It wasn't I mean, yeah, the course in Spots was firm, like fifteen. But it was a goldilocks day, you know. It was, it was pretty warm, wind wasn't blowing. And then Freddy's just he's an unbelievably good golfer, and he's aged so well because the swing is long and it's
languid and it's loose. It's kind of crazy, you know, if you think about it. Yesterday yesterday was really a crazy day, sneaky, one of the crazier days. I think I've seen you. And he had a guy that won twice last year, shooting ninety. You had a guy on Social Security that shot seventy one. And when we talk about somebody relieving themselves or going into Raysed Creek, I should say normally it's because they hit a shot in there, not because they went in there to relieve themselves, like
the US amateur Chap did yesterday. He said, though I'll give him a lot of credit. He said it was the largest amount of clause he got all week. And then Rory with the double boge's coming back.
So he's not in trouble, is he? Because you got to be careful with your demeanor at Agusta. Certainly the page do.
What about the golfers, I'm sure that got The committee wasn't too happy with him. He said he forgot to go to the bathroom. I don't know how one does that, but you know, you have to be. I guess judicious. There was a porter potty on the thirteenth tee. I guess he forgot. And anyway, you know, what are you gonna do? What are you gonna do when you playing with it? What you gotta go? You gotta go. But Ray's creek And then what else? What else happened crazy yesterday?
Well Rory on fifteen and like I was telling people that that looked like a perfect shot. His his second shot in it goes right over the stick. Now it's on the back. Now it's tricky because it can be it borders on that's unbelievable or oh my god. And then Nance said right away it's gone because it got to that certain point it had a little bit of momentum. And then Jim says, it's gone. It's in the water.
Yeah, I mean after it didn't check that first bounce, he knew it was gone. You know, the players that had hit that shot concern servatively or good, I mean it checked the first bounce, or they just were really careful, like Scotti. Scheffer hit it back there and he was really careful. He landed on the on the fringe. He left it. Really it's hard to believe it, but it's a chip shot where you've got to be conservative and as firm as that green is, they all knew it.
It was such a head shot. I mean, Rory, you know, I'm I would imagine you know better than me. But pulling for Rory, and almost everybody in the world of golf pulls for Rory is maybe it's a kin to you. Tell me, if there's a decent analogy, I may use it to deny. Would it be like being a Buffalo Bills fan? You know, they they're awesome, right, and they
just can't quite win the big game. And for the last ten years, Rory's been there all the time, and then he makes these blunders, these head scratchers in major championships. You know, he's so inconsistent in majors on the one hand, and on the other he's pretty damn consistent, and you just can't quite figure him out.
Well, Rich, the great host of the program, says, and you got a little bit frosty, I think when he said we might look at this and say, Rory lost the tournament with that double bow git fifteen and double bow git seventeen, And then you kind of fired back at him So why do you think Rory is still in this thing?
Because he's playing great. I mean, right up until the blunder at fifteen, he could have been seven under par pretty easily, and he was four under par, and he had really kind of gotten nothing out of the round. He hit so many good shots and not capitalized on them. He played great coming in here, and Rory tends to play his best golf when he's kind of out of it, and he's not out of it. I maintain that the lead is really Scotti Scheffler. You know, that's the person
you got to beat. No disrespect to Justin Rose. It's hard to sustain that level of golf that he played yesterday for four days. He just made a bow get the fifth. He's hit some of the worst shots I've seen somebody hit who's leading a golf tournament. Early in around number two fourth old par three pins up front, he laid the sod over his approach shot fifty yards shore the green. I've never seen anybody do that. And he got up and down for par, so he kind
of smoking mirrors and then he blogging five. So my point is he's four back of Scotti Schiffer. Well, you don't think Rory can make up four shots over three days. And if I'm Rory, I'm sitting there thinking I got to go out and get twelve hundred par over the next four days and that should do it. So No, I don't think he shot himself out of it, but he made pretty much all the mistakes he could make yesterday.
How does Augusta keep this so the scores don't get out of hand? When you see Deshambo hitting at three hundred and fifty yards and then you got a short iron into a part five Rory with that and as you said, you can blast it there if you miss a fair way. That's saying a lot about your driving ability or lack thereof. But what does Augusta do continue to do to keep it in a certain number if that's important to them.
Well, the golf course has a lot of lenks to it. You know that Augusta, more than any other golf course I think in the country, has managed to sort of keep up with the technological and I would say bzique changes in the game of golf. The scoring average yesterday was seventy three point four. Last year was seventy three point nine. I mean you go back forty years, that's kind of what the scoring average was, so they kept in step. The greens are firm. They're the most undulating,
difficult greens in the game of golf. There's plenty of trouble to wreak havoc out there.
So the.
Difficult part of Gustin National is to go around there not to have some huge blunder because if you make a mistake, you make it double, you make a triple, and eventually the winner is the guy who just doesn't make a double bogie for the week. I mean, with few exceptions. And that's why Scotti Shiffler is so unique. You know, what makes Scotty great is not any one thing. It's like what makes any great athlete. It's not any
one thing. It's just a number of things. He's long, he's straight, great irons, great chipper, and he's very judicious. He's very methodical about how he plays the game, and much in the tiger Woods or Jack Nicholas Bain.
But Wndersey or has he graduated in now he's one of the great golfers of all time.
Oh gosh, you know he's he got to get into rarefied air. They are five, six, seven major championships, twenty five thirty thirty five, forty wins. I mean he's he's a five year run away from, you know, having that sort of moniker attached to him. I mean, this is what they look like, though, Dan on the way to being called that. They look like this.
Yeah, And I'm always careful because you see these guys and they're like unbelievable.
Then all of a sudden, you go, where did that guy go?
Right right? It happened with Jordan speak Yes, where did that guy go? It happened with Justin Thomas. He's like, where did that guy go? Dustin Johnson? Where did that guy go? John Romps extent right now? And it's really hard to sustain that. And the reason I think we're inclined to say Scottie Scheffler is going to be less inclined to have those big valleys is because he's not
a swing tinkerer. He doesn't think that there's something better next door or somebody knows something, and he's got such a well balanced family life. I just can't see him jumping to live I can't see him jumping to swing teachers. I can't see him trying to transform his body and getting injured and all of those things. You know, those are sort of life existential hurdles. I don't think he'll be susceptible to.
He's Randall Shambley Golf Channel leads studio analyst and you can watch Live for the Masters. After the round is concluded, you look at the live guys and I wondered about coming, you know, playing that style of golf in that environment and then dialing it up to play in this and John Rahm. You know, I think he played pretty well.
Durrell.
I think he had a couple of bad holes. Deshambo I watched him, but the difference between Deshambo and John Rahm going from Live to Augusta was what yesterday.
I feel like John ram fills extra pressure in major championships. You know, he's been criticized for being sort of a turncoat because he had critical remarks about Live initially and said he had never leave the tour than he did, so he's been a little critical. He goes over there, he plays well, and then he comes and plays poorly in the major championships. So I almost feel like there's a lot of pressure on him to perform and Bryson. On the other hand, I feel like I feel like
he uses live events to prepare for major championships. He doesn't really seem to be in him. You know. You go look and it's not like he's not lighting them up. You know, this is a guy won the US Open last year, almost won three of the four major championships, and he hasn't won a live event this year, and live is nowhere near the competition that he would face the major championships. But like, he really gets up for majors.
He's got no pressure on him. It's like the oposit He freeze it up and gets after it.
I think he's great to watch, but it feels like he's he'll take on anybody. Like he probably says I'm the best golfer in the world. He probably I don't care what Scotty Scheffler does. I'm still better than him. Like that confidence he exudes it, yeah, I mean does.
It's really fun to watch him. You know, he plays the game with such audacity, such he's like a gambler. On the one hand, he's like John Daly, you know, in that he he goes after everything. But on the other hand, he's like Ben Hogan now, but you couldn't find two more incooncourse figures. You know, he's he's relentless in his pursuit of perfection. But then when he gets on the golf course he plays with absolute reckless abandon. He swings at every single pitch as hard as he can.
He couldn't be more different than Scotty Scheffler in the way he plays the game. But the preparation you got to tip your cap for it. He's you know, he's out there well after dark a lot of nights. When we're doing life for him, we just turn around and there's Bryson on the range getting after it.
I was amazed watching your coverage last night. It's eight o'clock. He's been done for three hours or you know, two and a half hours. He's out there hammering drives. And you said there's no more daylight here.
I think they have.
Do they have lights on the driving range there for him? Because he was the only guy who looked like he was out there.
You know, it's funny. I didn't turn around to look, but he was. He was lit like there were lights out there. I don't know that he needs lights because he's got the track man or the Quadji's squad right there. So he just hits and then looks down and that he doesn't need it. And you know it's it's dinner time and it's bedtime.
But can you hit too many balls when you're out there?
Yes, every other player in this field would say yes to that question, but not him. You know, there's a there's a there's a ball count going for the week and almost everybody. It's pretty pretty cool to watch. The first year I can remember there's a ball count. There's a there's a group of datus you know, statisticians that count the balls of every player out there. Data Golf.
It's a good follow up on the driving range.
Yeah, yeah, Dada Golf does this. So I looked at it yesterday and it had everybody listed and you know, the most balls to the lease balls hit and you go over here to the lease balls hits, and it's all the guys that are playing the best. They're not they got it. They're not looking for it.
They got it.
And then you know these statisticians, they're brilliant. They do a correlation to where the fewest balls correlates to how well they're playing coming into the week. The most balls correlates to the guys that are playing except for Bryson, you know, And and he's out there hitting thousands of balls over the course of the week. You'd think you'd be sore, You'd think you'd be tired all of these things. You don't want a major championship, But he does it
every dad gum day. You know, as far as I can tell, he he doesn't have kids, he doesn't have a wife, he doesn't have a girlfriend. It's just you know, with those golf balls, and he's like Hogan. This is something Ben Hogan would be doing.
Do you hold out any hope of Tiger's return, and if so, what will he look like?
You know, watching I don't know if you you probably watched some of the TGL It was kind of cool to watch and Tiger was swinging great in that thing. And I have had all the hope he was going to come back and play some good golf this year. Let's hope. I mean, he's going to be like this year's probably gone, so it'll be fifty before we see him again. But as we've seen with Freddy this week, you know, and as we saw with Phil Mickelson a few years ago. These guys can still play some great
golf in their fifties. Tigers ball speed. When I was watching him in the TGL this year, Dan was it was almost it was close to one hundred and eighty miles an hour, and he was pushing off that right foot, which you know got mangled in that last accident. So you know, I won't I won't say no, but it's really far fetched, you know.
At this point, I'll leave you with this. I did a story on Byron Nelson. So when he was alive, he went down to his ranch and he couldn't swing the club anymore. You know, he was a lot older, but he wanted to hold the golf club. And so we're out on the ranch and uh Hogan was still alive, and I said to uh Byron, I said, do you think you could call Ben Hogan and I could do a feature We were doing Legends of the PGA Tour.
And he looked at me.
He goes, oh, no, no, And I said, but I just you know, I guess he didn't live very far from Byron. And I'm thinking, hey, if Byron would call Ben Hogan, maybe Ben Hogan would do a sit down interview with. But Byron looked at me and he's one of the nice He's a gentleman. He was one of the nicest people. And he just gave me this look like that might be the dumbest question I've heard. I nobody messes. Nobody messes with Ben, nobody wants to call him.
I commend you for the ass. Gary Player famously called him sometime, you know, after he'd want a couple of majors and said, you know, I'm having problems with this or that in my game. And Ben Hogan said, whose clubs do you play? Gary? And he said, well, I'm playing Slazenger And he said, oh, he said, what don't you call mister Slazenger and asked him he was a
hard ass. I loves you to interview him and' id love to see if you could get him to laugh and open up because he was He was a tough character to crack.
And people are still looking at his swing as the holding is the greatest, is the greatest golf swing ever.
Now I would put Sam Snead up there.
Too, Yeah, I mean, look Sam Steed.
Athleticism, athleticism. Sam Snead, even when he was in his seventies yeah.
Yeah, there was a sort of a lyrical charm to Sam sneed swing. You know, folks see, but with Hogan, it had everything. It had powered, had the geometry, it had the artistry. It was like he was Mikhail Berushnikoff. You know, It's like you just couldn't believe somebody could swing with golf club that good. Nobody today comes close to swing on golf clothes as Ben Hogan.
Nobody.
He didn't have track, man, he didn't have a video. I don't know how he did it, Dan, I don't know how.
You think it's the greatest golf swing ever.
Yeah, A Tiger two thousand is the is the closest thing, in my opinion, you know, that's a that's a dead heat. I think Hogan gets him in the end. But because you know, Tiger had every asset of the game. But from a from a if you said who could you who would you most like to swing golf? Good Lord Ben Hogan? Yeah, I don't believe.
I look at Hogan like Leonardo da Vinci, so ahead of his time and what he did, and Hogan did that to the golf swing.
And yeah, yeah, you know there's an issue you can probably find this, you go back and you look. You know, Hogan famously won the fifty US Open after that accident, and he tied with I'm not mistaken, Lloyd Mangram, who had won the forty six years opener George Fozia, right, two phenomenal golfers, And you go watch them tee off on the first whole the playoffs, and you know, George hits,
Lloyd Mangram hits, and then Hogan hits. And if you just were watching the video of those three golfers who are all tied in the US Open, you would think, comparatively speaking, and I don't mean this disparagingly, you would think the first two were drunks at the driving range. And then because the symmetry, the movement, the grace, the power, every movement had a purpose in hogan swing. It's the most beautiful thing in the history of golf, no question about that in my mind.
Played ice today.
I don't know, trying to piss somebody off, Okay, I don't want to disappointed for the week.
Dan, I don't know, take a shot at Nicholson. That's gotten too easy. Does he ever come up and say something to you? Did he come up and say something to you.
Well, you know, we have mutual friends, good friends. His kind of best friends are kind of my good friends. And we have a time or two talked about getting the g other and having a you know, a powwow. It hadn't happened yet. I like Phil, you know, I like I miss his golf. I think he's a smart guy, and I think if he were setting across from me, we would have a good natured back and forth. I don't think he's bitter. I don't think he holds grudges, but you know, I miss his golf. I wish you
were back here playing the tour. I wish he hadn't.
Left, Yeah, because he was going to be Arnie.
He was going to be wasn't And I'll tell you this, he would be setting in that lead chair doing commentary killing it now is. He'd be making forty fifty million dollars a year and he I think he'd be great in the book. He'd beat a Ryder Cup captain. Yeah, I know, entertaining us and all that. Yeah, So I do golf misses him.
I think, Thank you, Brandal, have great weekend.
Thank you too. Always a pleasure to be on the show.
Randal Shambley Golf Channel leads studio analyst. Yeah, I was told by a source that Phil was going to take over for Faldo, but he wanted to play in the majors, so this would before he went to live and it just never materialized. All right, Well, take a break, phone calls coming up, Brent Musburger coming up, top of the hour.
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When you think of Augusta, Augusta's the star year and in year out, doesn't matter who's playing, it's still Augusta. All the other majors they rotate different venues, Augusta is Augusta.
That's it.
And you look forward to seeing, you know, I mean there's other courses where you go Saint Andrew's, you know, it's interesting, and Pebble Beach is you know, obviously great. There's a lot of courses that are wonderful. But Augusta, you know he exactly what it is because you can turn on a golf event and go where are they playing. You don't do that with Augusta. But other sports, when you think of the venue, like Madison Square gardens, that
venue is the important part of it. You're not playing the Knicks, you're playing in the garden, or you're not playing against Saint John's you're playing in the garden. You're not playing against the Rangers, You're playing in the garden. Fenway is iconic that when you look at that, you know exactly.
Where you are.
And I encourage you to go to Fenway because once you walk in and you look at that green monster, you're going to think the same thing that everybody else does. Damn, I think I could hit one out here, but that one is one that stands out Lambeau because of where it is in a neighborhood and the history there. And it was no frills first time I went there. You're sitting on benches. I don't know if they upgraded, but I think the press box and maybe some sweets there.
Notre Dame.
Notre Dame's another one they did add to Notre Dame. But if you're thinking about the Cowboys with their first stadium with the hole in the roof, oh no, see anything else where the venue is more important than the actual sport being played there.
Yes, Paul, growing up watching the Rose Bowl as a college football fan, the teams were interchangeable. The Rose Bowl and the pomp and circumstance around it, that great shot when the sun was going down. The venue is a star.
I love the Rose Bowl because and where it's situated, where you know, it's kind of in a neighborhood where you're kind of driving down all of a sudden, boom, there's the Rose Bowl, and it's just there's something about it being on the sidelines there. Went to see the Rose Bowl with Michigan one year and it was just awesome. So that would be up there.
Yeah, Marvin, speaking of Michigan, what about the Big House?
Yeah, but I don't know if it's.
I think it's about Michigan football. I don't know if it's hey, we're playing in the Big House, it's you're playing Michigan.
Yes, I feel the same way about Lambeau. The Packers are just as important as Lambeau.
Yeah, Okay, I'll buy that.
Yeah, Paul, I think the Big House in Michigan was that in the seventies and eighties, and then other college football programs caught up in number of seats in the building.
Well, the Buckeyes with the horseshoe is iconic, but it's still playing. It's Ohio State football there the Coliseum. The Coliseum is way too big. When you watch a USC game, it's just way too big, so you don't have that intimacy. And it was built for the Olympics, yes, Ton Wimbledon, where.
It's more the event or the venue as opposed to specific tennis players in at center court.
Yeah, yeah, I think so.
You know when you see that burned out grass, you know, late in the event, and it's like, yep, I'm trying to think any other venue that comes to mind.
Yeah, yeah, yeah.
What's crazy about the Colosseum is that it's gigantic and it still has thirty thousand less seats than the Big House.
I thought that the Colosseum had ninety two thousand. I thought it was like seventy something. I might be wrong, Okay, well I could be wrong. I thought that was like ninety two thousand. The Big House is over one hundred. Big House is like, yeah, like one almost one. Yeah, Tennessee Neel and I think they're over a hunding. How many stadiums are over one hundred thousand? Yes, pauly See.
And I went to the Michigan game years ago and we were walking up. It was my second time there, his first, where it's kind of recessed into the ground. So from the outside you're like, that's it. It's not as big, and then you get inside it's actually better inside.
Yeah.
A lot of stadiums are built down, so when when you go in it, you're like, it doesn't look that large, But when you're in then you realize the enormous.
Yes.
Yeah.
When you're driving on the road, you just kind of see like, oh, there's a stadium over there. You see the big m and you're like oh okay, and then yeah, you got to kind of walk down into it.
You're like, dang, this place is gigantic. Yeah more Oh.
I was making the motion like you're going down all the stadiums. Okay, alright, I was getting excited. Come on, I thought you were doing a Ja Morant grenade.
Not this time, you know, what you had, Shaq and Kenny and Charles who talked about the uh A celebration of Ja Morant. It seems like that's more important than winning games, you know, his celebration.
Hey, I got another one.
Gotta put the gun down now, I got a grenade. Hall of Famer Brent Mussburger joined. Just coming up in ten minutes, final hour,