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They're obviously tanking.

They would love to get Cooper flag in Utah, but I don't know how that works.

If somebody says, hey.

We want you to sit down, like the competitor, I would I would be like, no, hey, we really need you to sit down. Yeah, but I'm healthy. Yeah, but for the good of the team. Can you sit out nine games with a lower back injury? And do they use the air quotes when they tell him you've got what's wrong with me?

You've got a.

Lower back injury? I do, Yes, You're gonna sit out for nine games. That's the stomach ache of school. You can't prove your stomach don Yeah, yes, done?

And what goes into and or who's the panel in the League office that in the judgment of the League office and generally understood to be helping ready to play?

Those are very vague terms that could use some more explanations.

We did ask the League office, who's the one investigating this? Do you have an independent physician who flies all over the country and be like, all right, Lebron, bring out the groin. Let me see it, yes, Bowen. The Jazz are fifteen and fifty one.

Since they started not starting Lari Markinin, they've lost nine of their last ten games, and their odds are increasing every day. When you look at this rule, don't you think it's the don't push it rule? Larry marketIn set nine straight games. If he set three games, played played a gun, and then set another three. I don't think they'll find them.

I don't. I have no idea.

I didn't know that they had somebody who is kind of in a clandestine role scene if something's nefarious going on. Wait a minute, let me look at you know, this is where somebody wins like a class action suits against somebody, Oh I was in a car accident, and then they have those you know cameras, those investigators that they see some guy where he's out there swinging the golf club or you know, he's changing tires on a semi and

Yes, Todd, it's well intended.

By the league, and I could certainly appreciate that with all the load management and stuff. But I still don't understand how you fully can approve something like that. But he does somehow have a legitimate problem that doesn't show up in an X ray or the average physician report.

I'm going to guess he doesn't have a legit of an injury. I'm guessing he might still have a lower back injury, but he's not allowed to sit out. Although didn't the Mavericks say with Anthony Davis with his injury, Now with Kyrie injured and they may shut him down, Well, why are you allowed to shut down Anthony Davis just because Kyrie got hurt? You need to uphold the competitive balance of the league. That Dallas can't go. Eh, we're

Ah, we'll just shut him down.

We got nothing to play for, but teams playing you or teams hoping that you put up a good fight against the team they're competing for with the playoff spot. That's the competitive integrity of the game. Yes, Pom, do you think we need a name for this rule? I looked on the NBA's website. It's called the Player Participation Policy, and you know I don't like the literation PPP. No, my name is Paul Peppst. How about the Kawhi rule? We name it after a player? Is that mean spirited

Okay, then, if you want to go back, the origin of this rule is twenty ten, the Spurs and Popovich were fined two hundred and fifty thousand dollars. It was precedent setting because it hadn't been done before. He set Duncan, Jenobili, Parker, and Danny Green in a nationally televised game against the Heat. That's the genesis of this entire.

Yeah, he told him to stay home. Now the game was in Miami. He's like, no, stay home. And then all of a sudden, it's like David Stern goes, oh, it's going to cost you. Maybe we call it the pop rule, but that's another p Yeah before peace, Yes, Seaton.

I definitely didn't see it coming where. You know, the Utah Jazz they need to tank, so they're like, all right, better get market In out of there, then hit them, sit them.

We got to lose these games.

It's not like you go, boy, if we don't sit him, we're going to be winning a ton of games.

We're just going to be rolling through the rest of the league if we.

Don't sit him.

Yeah, you know, it's kind of like when I'm looking at this one article and they say Marketing is a quote star player.

He has quotes around star player.

Yeah, Oh my god, I don't I don't know if a star players should have quotes around it.

Yeah, he was an All.

Star in twenty twenty three. Okay, it is star player air quotes.

In this case, it has to have quotes because it's a designation, not an opinion.

Yes, Tom, what if.

A player has incentive clauses about how many games they played or what they're averaging? So like, what if a lowly marketing I don't know what his contract is, but what if he's getting affected financially by them telling him to.

Sit, Well, he's not going to be an All Star or our first team, second team, third team, that's where you have to have sixty five games.

But I was just kind of.

Surprised that you think the opposition goes it's marketing plan.

I don't think so. Now we have a chance. You're the Utah Jazz, Yes, Marvin, and.

They're doing all this just to get the eighth pick in the draft.

No, maybe maybe higher than that. Where do they stand with the Wizards in New Orleans?

Or maybe a message is saying, well.

They got fifteen wins, they got fifteen wins the lottery.

You never know.

Yeah, yes, Paul Washington has thirteen wins, Utah has fifteen, Charlotte sixteen, and New Orleans eighteen, Washington, Utah, and Charlotte as of right now, would each have a fourteen percent chance.

Okay, number one overall. So you're saying we got a chance. But if you said to Cooper Flag, where do you want to go? He's from Maine, not going to the Celtics. If it's Washington, Utah, Maybe Charlotte because you've been at Duke. Maybe get to play with Alonzo ball not Lonzo Lamela LaMelo. I can't keep it straight, even though I should, because there's only one that's really good.

Do you want to go to d C?

No, No, it's almost like going to the Jets.

I think it's worse than the Jets.

Oh yes it is, yes for sure.

Yeah, because I don't think the Wizards have won fifty games in my lifetime.

You mean in a season, not total in your lifetime, Well.

In a season. Yes, I don't think they've won fifty games in my life.

Well, hear from Josh Allen coming up Seaton. What's poll question for hour one?

It would be great if we I don't know if we have enough options for it. But the new name for that rule that you were just talking about, that would be a lot of fun. Maybe we can populate that a bit.

Okay, pop.

It so funny. We're like a bunch of seals in here. I said pop in the front row and we all saw the same pop.

Pop pop pop.

Did you just say pop pop?

You pay us for this, twelve year olds?

What other pole question might you have?

Well, we haven't gotten into some of the quarterback situations. Yes, if the mac Jones going to the forty nine ers, Yeah, he is a more interesting fella than I think it appears on the surf.

Do you think there'll be a thirty for thirty on mac Jones one day?

This could be a chapter of it. This could be he is. He is a wonderful case study and how luck and timing play into a successful career.

At that position. Absolutely, all right, let me take a break. We'll settle on a pole question eight seven seven to three DP show. We'll get phone calls coming up Steve Young. A little bit later on on the program, we'll hear from Josh Allen, who signed that new contract extension with the Buffalo Bills.

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Celtics attempted sixty three three pointers last night against the Thunder in a loss. Now the most three point attempts in a game. Twenty nineteen, the Rockets had seventy three point attempts. The Rockets had sixty eight three point attempts that same year, and the Celtics was sixty three. That ties them with the Thunder and the Rockets again for the most in a non overtime game.

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Pat suck it for fools, Fritzy Bed.

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Yeah, talk about an absolute genius.

Do we have another whose stats? Song? To play? Marvins? You won't who stands?

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It's too early in the morning.

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See it sounds like you doing Marge Simpson doing whose stance?

I thought it was a pretty good line.

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Yeah, all right, maybe we need more who.

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That's the og, isn't it?

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Maybe we need more whose stance? Maybe maybe we don't know? Play of the day?

But whose stance would you want? All right, Paulie? Whose stance do we want?

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Quarterback one four seasons, twenty and twenty nine as a starter, fifty four touchdown passes and forty four picks in career. He started one playoff game, he had two touchdowns and two picks. As a rookie, he finished second for Offensive Rookie of the Year. He was a Pro Bowl alternate once. That's quarterback one. Quarterback two. Four seasons in the pros twenty two to thirty eight as a starter, so nine more losses, sixty nine touchdown passes, and forty six picks.

Two one is Mac Jones.

Quarterback one is Mac Jones.

Okay, Quarterback two Trevor Lawrence.

Quarterback two is Trevor Lawrence.

Oh, okay. Very similar careers.

A few more touchdowns because he played many more games Trevor Lawrence, but they are very similar in overall career.

Wow, Trevor making a sizably larger amount of money with his contract than MATC.

Jones.

Is at what point, like Trevor Lawrence, we're getting to the point. I mean, he already got paid, but we're getting to the point where you go is he on the clock. And I know he got the contract, but still at some point you got diminishing returns.

Here twenty two and thirty eight is a starter.

Sixty nine tds, forty six picks, two playoff games, five tds, five picks. All right, but you're spending a lot of money on him. I know it's not all on him, but still we focus in on the quarterback. That's why they get paid fifty million. Getting banged up. Now you've got a new coach, yet another coach. That's another thing with stability. Stability for a quarter is you're going to a team that already has the shell or the nucleus to be a good team, or they already are a

But still you got to get more out of your quarterback.

But having stability there, your offensive coordinator and your head coach are so important. And it's the luck of the draw. Sometimes if I'm a quarterback, I'd rather be drafted later because I'm going to a better team.

But also.

You're still going to get paid eventually. Let's say you don't get your money in that first you know, three or four years, if you're on a good team and you're good, you're going to get paid. You can be a good quarterback on a bad team. You might not get paid. They might go, you know what, let's try to get another quarterback. He's expendable. You know, Shdor Sanders might benefit more than cam Ward. I did have an my NFL scout friend says to me last night, he goes, hey,

Are we talking.

About the University of Tennessee?

He goes, No, he goes, he goes, every year, we always talk about a couple of teams to keep an eye on. He goes, You've been ahead of the curve with a few of these. I said, Okay, I don't think I'm going to be all Definitely, I'll be the only one on the curve. I'm not going to take a pie of the face. By the way, Fritzy goes, hey, I dressed down today because I have to take a pie of the face and Seton goes, how would we tell that you dressed down?

Basically, you wore a T shirt.

It kind of looks exactly to say this. Tod dresses every day.

The sweatpants are a little older than I normally wear, and then maybe a little rip in the crotch.

Other than that, it's basically.

This secks exactly what you wore yesterday, Todd.

Yes, Marvin dressed down a little bit too. He has to take a pie to the face as well. A little bit later on. But you dress nicer when you dress down, you think so, yeah, yeah, yeah, like I wouldn't consider that dressing down, but for you, yeah.

Maybe it's only because it's something I would also possibly wear to bed.

Oh, the old old thermal.

I don't need to know about that. Todd doesn't wear anything to bed, so.

Oh, I definitely didn't even know that.

With a little low maine by the side tables.

No, no, no, I have a low maine by the side table.

Fill a coffee table with a little low maine right just by the side of the bed there where the clock is, and I put my phone down, and then there's some some fried rice.

You're joking, I am joking, okay, good, not completely joking.

You're saying you have had low maine or fried rice next to the bed.

I've been known to have.

A box of Milla wafers and a fruit punch gatorade to the side of the bed. I tried not to do that as much as I used to.

Like, if your wife is away in your solo exactly.

Definitely, yeah, yeah, pizza baca on the floor in the bedroom.

What are you doing?

Yeah, not even in the kitchen. What are you to be bringing it up to the room.

That's sad.

That is craping pep rowingy off the box.

That's sad, very sad. David in Michigan, David, what's on your mind today?

Hey, Danny Paul if I've been crazy? So I've got a Big Ten b Bolls stat of the day for you guys.

All right, So.

Dating all the way back to the year twenty twenty five years, there's only been two teams that have won the Big Ten regular season title without a first or second team All American player. Obviously, my guys in it this year Michigan State. Can you guys name the other? Want to take a shot of it?

All right, So it's a team that didn't have a first or second team All Conference.

All American, All Big Tens Okay, All Big Tens.

Okay, well, okay, I didn't expect this trivia question today.

I guess give me the year here, David.

Back in twenty twenty, the Pesky Badgers flopped their way too shared title without you need all their all the gun players.

So wait, I thought you were just giving me the year. He gave me the answer, didn't you. Yeah, I help you, Thank you, thank you.

David, you just got a guitar strum?

What what was that? What just happened?

I don't know.

There's a trivia question, and I'll give you the answer.

Yes.

People on social media are comparing the resurgence of the Who's Stats songs to the current revival that Creed is going through. Oh Creed got so unpopular that now they're popular again. It's kind of like the whose Stats are love it Nickelback all of a sudden booking massive venues because people are like, now, you know what, screw you guys. I like that photograph song and I'm gonna support it. They're having a massive resurgence too.

Let's see Chris in Massachusetts. Hi Chris, what's on your mind?

The AdPT long time six foot hard one hard, So I got to cheat. I took our boys there five and seven. We went and saw some thrilling Hockey East action last night, and my, my, poor Merrior Mac Warriors lost and double overtime. And I was just curious to all the dads there, what's the rule of thumb If if you're on a school night and you've got a game going into double overtimes, you keep the kids up late. We ended up peeling out after the first overtime period,

Well on in the playoff game.

Yeah, I'm okay on a school night that you decide, you know, because sometimes hockey games can go into four or five overtimes.

Yes to.

You can't be a quitter. You got to teach your kid.

You got to stay with it, just like if you join a team, you know, don all of a sudden the middle of the season because the team's not doing well, I don't want to play anymore. Ride it through to the end, and if you're exhausted the next morning, then so be it. You can't just leave. You gotta wait to see the outcome. You're at the game. You took the time to get the snacks and the souperinirs and sit in the parking lot and drive and buy the tickets.

You can't just leave while the game is still undecided. That's how I feel.

Back to you gonna see thank you, Todd, Yes, Marvin.

And when your kids are adults, they're not gonna remember the next day of school, They're gonna remember that night. They their Dad took them to a double overtime game at Merrimac, and I can remember that random Thursday morning, and you think.

They're gonna go dad.

Remember remember we left that hockey game when we were six and eight. It's like, yep, you guys won't let me forget that. We're gonna stay. Tell mom We're staying until the very end, no matter what. Uh Tim in Texas? Hi Tim, what's on your mind today?

Good morning?

Everybody?

That a long time. So I wanted to touch base on the rule, the uh rest players rules in d NBA. I think it's just like lack of incentives, and I

Day, all right.

I brought this up before, might have brought it up to the commissioner a couple of years ago. Could you have the bottom two teams play each other for the number one pick? Could you have the bottom four teams play? And then you know, once again, you can add this there. There's a real tune in factor. If you have bad teams playing for the chance to draft the number one player, you get Cooper Flag. The Cooper Flag sweepstakes have Cooper Flag there. You're going to tune into that. And let's

He's the trophy.

Yeah, he's he is the trophy. They walk off holding up Cooper flag.

Yeah.

Let the merchandising opportunities be good, yes, Dodd.

But then the team that finishes last in that tournament is going to say, see, that's.

Why we deserve to have Cooper Flagg.

We're the worst team.

We should have the number one pick. We tried and we proved that we're the worst of that group of four. So why are they getting him?

Marvin, And there's a bunch of guys playing that won't be on the team the next season. All right, we'll playing one. You won't be here, you won't be playing with Cooper.

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Quickly Dan, because we brought up Band's less segment. Band one five singles on the Billboard Chart in their career, one number one Billboard hit, twenty four million album sales just in the US, ban two seven singles on the Billboard Charts, one number one hit and twenty eight million album sales in the US.

I'm gonna say one is Creed.

Which one and one or band.

Two only choices, I'm gonna say, banned one is Creed, Ban two is Creed.

Oh twenty eight million album sales in the US.

Alone, Banned one is Nickelback. That is correct.

So if you went Scoreboard read over Nickelback, Okay, it's eating your thoughts on that.

So would I rather be creator Nickelback?

Yeah?

Man, I think I'd rather be Creed.

Because I think I'd rather be Creed.

Yeah, they at least had, like I can see why people really like Creed.

But can you see why people didn't really like Nickelback.

I don't really know. There's not really a lot about Nickelback that I find a feeling. Oh personally, no offense, They're just definitely they're definitely not my even from just the way the lead singer holds his guitar sucks.

You know.

Wow.

Creed just they soared to heights and just never really came back to reality. And I'm kind of okay with that.

But do you think when Scott Stapp was doing arms wide open that maybe he just he was up too high, like he was breathing in rarefied air and was never able to come back down and decompress.

I think so. I think sometimes you get so famous you go crazy, and I think he may have, you know, may have gotten that famous.

Hmm.

But now they've had a resurgence. Nickelback has a really good documentary that I got to see. But Creed's coming back around playing to big crowns.

I think.

I don't know if it's stadiums, but yeah, they're back, Yeah, yeah, yes, Paul.

Billboard magazine had an article ranking bands in successful how successful business wise, and two to twenty ten Nickelback was number one.

Made some dough.

Yeah, they played to arenas. I mean they played probably still playing two arenas. I just don't know what happens when all of a sudden, you know, Hoody and the Blowfish went through this that they were a big deal, and then all of a sudden people were like turned against them. And I remember talking to the guitar player, Mark Bryant, and he said, you know, we're somewlayre in like Maryland, and it said honk if you hate Hoody and he's like he sees this bumper sticker, he goes.

What did we do to you?

Like?

You people almost felt like godly they made me buy this CD. You know, it's one of the top ten selling CDs maybe of all time top fifteen.

Yeah.

See, that isn't That isn't why people hate the songs or hate the band. It's when you don't like the band and you don't like the songs and you can't escape it. That's when you're like, God, I can't stand this band because I don't really like it, but I hear it everywhere. That's the problem. It's not really the people who bought the CD. It's everybody who didn't buy the CD. But still here's the music constantly. You're like, good God with this band already. That's what the problem is. Well,

Now?

Imagine Dragons Probably they're the modern day Hootie Slash. Yeah. I think there's a category two of band that separates the Creed Nickelback thing where you get forced to defend your band, and sometimes dudes do it very hostily. I don't feel like Creed ever really defended themselves. They were kind of like, I don't really care if you don't like it or not.

Nickelback were like, what got band?

And You're like, all right, dude, yes you sing. Photograph dude, chill out, you know, like smash Mouth was the same way, like that, dude. Unfortunately alri Ip he went right down to the very last day, was like fist fighting people over I'm a believer covers. Oh my god, I know you sang the Shrek song, dude, like chill out. Bro right, don't take it that seriously. You're gonna bring back a song by the Monkeys. Yes, I hesitate to bring this up.

Album, I call it not debut. Did they They cooled off, but I don't know if they ever got the blowback blowback.

I don't think people turned against Nick or Green Day.

I don't think so. They kind of they had a massive album and then the next like two, three, four, five, six maybe weren't very good, and then all of a sudden they had that other album that just American idiot I think just went like went crazy, you know. So they they've had a really interesting career. But they also had a time though, where Billy Joe was like fighting people over his band and they're like, all right, dude, chill out.

You're a pop punk bin Marvin. Can you give me a little American idiot?

Don't want to be Amerricane idiot?

Yeah?

What's the other that had a really huge that Boulevard Broken Dreams, that song wow everywhere? Yeah, in my head it went like so when I come around in ninety four and then I didn't hear from them again until Boulevard Broken Dreams was Green.

Day's Back or when wake Me when October and September Stember, oh September, Dang, my bad.

Sorry, Uh, it's something I'm prettydictable.

Wrong, Okay, I'm going to have the time of my life. I know I gotta be careful here, but I did go to the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame to see their exhibit. Uh, Lucas in Texas, Hi Lucas. We'll hear from Josh Allen coming up top of next hour.

Hey Louke, Hey.

Dang, good morning, good morning.

Two quick things, if you'll allow me. The first off, you mentioned a couple of days ago that logically you've never listened to the whole music of your own show, and as someone who has, I'd love for you to put or figure out who put that together because I think in respect for your love of the born identity. One of the musics is the kind of dramatic theme right at the end of the first Born Identity movie.

So it's pretty cool, but.

A question y'all were talking earlier about a certain danet's dress code, and it brought up a question for me because I've been wondering, wondering this ever since Dylan made an appearance on camera. Who dresses and I don't even know the adjective is it better or worse between Todd and Dylan. This is something that's really been perplexing me for a few weeks now.

Dylan does have a certain style. Fritzy doesn't. I think Fritzy takes whatever he sees when he goes to the closet. But Dylan actually plans his outfit, his wardrobe. I don't know if Todd, I mean Todd might if we have somebody on from a particular team, then he might have a jersey. You might have a sweatshirt, but I don't know. If there's a lot of preparing going on for your wardrobe.

That's fair, but I try to come up with something theme related, like you said, But other than that, whatever's not in the in the laundry, I'm gonna throw on.

Yeah see, yeah, I was gonna say I don't think anybody puts more thought into how they dressed than Todd, because it'll be like, hey, did you see the Lakers won by fifty eight points. Look, I'm wearing a fifty eight jersey with purple socks and yellow streets like, oh.

Okay, one hour in the books, two more to go. More of what we had in first hour coming up? Oh yeah, and we'll hear from Josh Allen