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Hour 1 - Albert Breer

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Dan Patrick is live from Media Row in New Orleans ahead of the Super Bowl! Dan gives his reactions to Super Bowl Media Night, as the biggest week in football officially begins. Senior NFL Reporter for The MMQB Albert Breer joins Dan to break down Myles Garrett's trade request from the Cleveland Browns.

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Speaker 1

You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox Sports Radio.

Speaker 2

It's our one on this Tuesday, Dan and the Dan Edge Dan Patrick Show live from New Orleans. The gang's all here ready to go. The Minister of Humor, Todd, Fritz, Marvin, the Prince, Seaton, Paulie, Yours truly, the backroom guys, and the great folks here at the Exchange in New Orleans. All right, we have poll questions, We got our play the day. Stat of the Day got some great guest Charles Barkley will join us a little bit later on Cooper Manning of the Manning family, the father of Arch Manning.

Will stop by. Brady Quinn from Fox Sports and Albert Breer the Monday Morning Quarterback, as we get an update on Miles Garrett, Cooper Cup where he could be headed? And do the New Orleans Saints have their head coach. He's in New Orleans, He's just not with the New Orleans Saints. So we'll talk to Albert coming up in a little bit. Your phone calls always welcome. Operator Tyler

sitting by each seven to seven three DP shows. Stat of the Day is always brought to you by Panini America, the official trading cards of this program first Hour, brought to you by Keeper's Heart, a new and unique style of whiskey that combines the best of Irish and American whiskey, creating a smooth character of Irish whiskey and the bold flavors of American whiskeys. If you're a whiskey fan, try it and of course drink responsibly. All right, a few

items here. Yesterday we spent a lot of time first couple of hours talking about the fallout from the Luca ad trade, and then all of a sudden we're hit with a football bomb. Not, as I guess, explosive is what happened with Luca and Ad. But Miles Garrett wants out of Cleveland. Now here's the pre eminent defensive line, defensive player, former defensive player of the Year, and he

wants out of Cleveland. Now you can add some intrigue or mystery to this because there's a report that Deon Sanders doesn't want his son Shadoor Sanders to go to the Cleveland Browns. Well, he certainly doesn't want them to

go to the Cleveland Browns. If you're going to have Miles Garrett stage left, Now this is what I would suggest if the Cleveland Brown's on the clock with the second pick overall, and you are thinking about taking a quarterback, or maybe you're not, then maybe you say to the La Raiders or the Las Vegas Raiders, you can have our draft pick and you can take Shador Sanders, which is where shudor either the Giants or the Raiders he

probably would like to end up. But a lot of time before we have the draft, and you know all the gamesmanship that goes on there, but that possibility. But Miles Garrett, the Browns say they're not trading him. That that certainly is a big deal. And you have you know, GMS down here. You have team members down here, so you're going to get a lot of people talking to a lot of people during Super Bowl Week. All right, Seaton, what's the poll question for the first hour of the program. Well,

we got a bunch of options. We might as well start with the Browns. Paul just sent this one over. The Browns are dot dot dot a total mess or in a great position for the future. Okay, both I think yeh yeah. I mean, if you get rid of Deshaun Watson's contract, maybe you eat it for that last year, you got some draft picks and maybe you say, all right, let's start over. We trade Miles Garrett. It's just I

don't trust the organization to do things right. That's the problem is if this was in the hands of another organization, you might go, all right, they get they'll figure this out. There's a reason why these teams are usually bad teams. You know, it's systemic that you can trade, you can have different people, but you still have sort of the front office, same ownership there. That's what would worry me with the Cleveland Browns. You still have the same ownership

group there. I go back to when the Browns had all those draft picks, first round draft picks, and everybody's like, all the Browns, man, they're reloading, they're gonna be great. Well, they had all those draft picks. They just weren't any good with their drafting and they never got any better. You know, Brady Quinn was part of that draft where I think they got Joe Thomas, who became a Hall of But you know you're drafting Brandon Whedon, you know,

a defensive back out of Oklahoma State. What was his name? He went ninth overall, Justin Gilbert yeah, Yeah, that didn't go well.

Speaker 3

Yeah, Seed, Yeah, there have been so many drafts for that team that they had, say, two picks in the first round, and you're like, man, they are all set up. They just got their quarterback and their star wide receiver. They just got their quarterback and their star whoever, and yeah, crazy none of those has worked out.

Speaker 2

Yeah, Johnny Manziel, I mean you can run down the list here.

Speaker 4

Yeah, if you go back to twenty twelve, what Seaton was saying, Trent richardson round one, Brandon Whedon round one didn't work out, Barkavis Mingo twenty thirteen, twenty fourteen, Justin Gilbert, Johnny Manziel round one, Danny Shelton twenty fifteen, eh, Corey Coleman wide receiver twenty sixteen, No Diice. And then they stumbled into Miles Garrett in twenty seventeen. They couldn't screw that one up.

Speaker 2

Yeah, Although there was a knock on Miles Garrett that like he was too much of a renaissance man or something, and he he quote poetry or something. You know, it's like, I don't know, You're gonna trust this guy to be a tough guy, and I'm like, Uh, that's the last time I'm worry this guy reads. Oh my god, I'm not drafting him. He can't be tough, socially conscious, he knows who keets and you know, throw long Longfellow or any of these other people who just said the word pros.

Speaker 3

Oh my god, and not like you're talking about athletes, but like talking about text.

Speaker 2

Look at his spelling. It was media night last night, and the local fans and they had a band in there. You know, it was great, you know, but these are savvy teams when it comes to these questions. Patrick Mahomes is ready for whatever question you have. He's good. Yeah, see get us, buddy.

Speaker 3

I was in the van today on the way over and it's like, it's crazy how things change, you know. But I was looking around the van and I was like, oh my gosh, there's not a single person in here that's hungover today.

Speaker 5

How did that? Wait?

Speaker 2

Are we growing up? Hold on a second bellas what's going out here? Well, I got some backroom guys that I can introduce you to. I think we've passed the tom to those fellaws. Yes, I know. Look they jumped in the pool in their underwear first night, so I'm like all right, like I'm okay with it. We didn't cause a disturbance and nobody complained. But they went out last night again, went gambling, lost again, and I can hear it in Dylan's voice that they had some beverages

as well. Yes, Paul I did go to Media Nite last night.

Speaker 4

Did not live it up, but went to Media Nite and Patrick mahomes Dan gets asked some variant of the Tom Brady legacy question, like every fourth question, and then they mix in a baseball question, they mix in a basketball question.

Speaker 2

But he was totally prepared for every Brady question. Yeah, here's a couple of the uh. Patrick Mahon, I like this one though. He was asked about Luka Doncic and the trade from the Dallas Mavericks.

Speaker 5

Yeah.

Speaker 6

Man, it's it's tough, and because I feel like I've watched Luca since I've watched this since he was eighteen years old. I remember going to a practice and it was Derek and Luca and seeing his match and how a great basketball player he's became. A has been fun to watch, and as a Dallas fan, it hurts me, but I'm happy for him that he's gonna be able to go out there and I'm be in La and get to try to achieve his gam of winning a championship.

He does so much, not only for the basketball team but for the city of Dallas to always be appreciative of those years. But I'm excited for the Mavericks moving forward and the guys that they brought in.

Speaker 2

He loves being asked about this. He was asked about his baseball career. You know, he'll wax poetic about that and be like, oh, good, I don't have to talk about Brady or Yeah, all of a sudden, you allow a superstar athlete to also be a sports fan, They're like, whoa this is You're right, I do watch basketball too, thank you. Yeah, he's got opinions on things that we do too, And Todd always leans into the Patrick Mahomes impersonation.

Speaker 5

I just don't know how the chemistry is going to work between Lukeland Lebron.

Speaker 7

Good.

Speaker 4

Yes, so if you listen to Mahomes last night, he again got asked about Brady a few times, and he has a three step process for answering the question.

Speaker 2

He compliments Tom Brady.

Speaker 4

He says he has no control over his legacy, and then he says he's just focused on this weekend's game. It was one, two, three out. Every time he was asked about Brady.

Speaker 2

Is it a stretch to say the Kansas City Chiefs are Drake Current, Drake, Drake May, Drake, Drake the musician, the artist that all of a sudden everybody turned on Drake here. I don't know if that makes the Eagles Kendrick Lamar, but you know, when you think about it, the Chiefs came along and got rid of the Patriots. That's what people wanted, Like, can somebody get rid of them?

Speaker 7

Thank God?

Speaker 2

Oh Mahomes he's awesome, and Tyreek Hill and Kelsey this is great. Andy Reid won a Super Bowl. Now, all of a sudden, it's like, uh, can somebody knock these guys off? And it feels like, wasn't Drake at the top of his game? He came from nowhere, rapper from Canada and like, oh this guy man, this is great, and then all of a sudden the world turned on him.

Speaker 3

And it's funny, yeah, because Drake it's still like the most streamed artist every year, you know, so people are listening to a song's a ton and at the same time people kind of hate him.

Speaker 2

Well, the Grammy reaction to Kendrick Lamar winning and everybody singing that song that has to do with Drake is really kind of mind blowing. I can't imagine if Drake is watching that. Was he there at the Grammys now when the whole crowds singing, hey minor, no God, I know, but imagine he's he's watching and all of a sudden, that comes on and everybody stands up, everybody's singing. It just feels like the Kansas City Chiefs. That's where we are with him, Like we're tired of the Chiefs. And

you know, even Travis Kelsey was talking about that. Do we have Kelsey?

Speaker 7

Uh?

Speaker 2

He kind of addressed them, like what's the deal? Like, why does everybody not like the Kansas City Chiefs.

Speaker 1

Where will I be in three years?

Speaker 8

Oh man, I don't know. Hopefully still playing football. I love I love doing this, I love coming into work every day, and you know, I still I feel like I still got a lot of good football left in me.

Speaker 5

But we'll see, We'll see what happens.

Speaker 8

I know, I've been setting myself up for other opportunities in my life and That's always been the goal. Knowing that football only lasts for so long. You got to find a way to get into another career, into another you know, profession, And I've been doing that in my off seasons. But for the most part, I plan on being a Kansas City Chief and playing football.

Speaker 2

Where will I all right? All right, I don't see him playing three years. But he did joke about like, why does everybody hate the Kansas City Chiefs? I think this? You know, could I see a scenario where he retires after this?

Speaker 7

I could?

Speaker 2

You know, he's got his podcast with his brother, and he's gonna have a lot of offers to do media, his relationship with Taylor Swift. I don't know if he wants to go out this way. See, it's hard to walk away from this. We always talk about what's the per scenario, Well, if you win, you walk away. Well, if you win, then you go God, we could do it again. John Elway had to retire. They won, and

they were like, what a perfect way to go out. Well, John couldn't play anymore physically, wasn't able to Travis Kelcey can still play. He could be used like Gronk was late in his career with the Patriots where it was, hey, you don't do anything during the regular season, just be great during the postseason. And maybe that's what Kelsey is or will be here. But I don't know if you know how long he wants to play, and if you're looking at numbers, he's not going to catch Tony Gonzalez.

But I think Travis is probably going to be recognized as the best tight end of all time. Yeah, Pauline, I was with you.

Speaker 4

I thought if Travis Kelcey and the Chiefs won, he would retire quickly because he's got so many opportunities. But he's making so much money off the field. He could give the Chiefs like a two year discount whatever the veteran's minimum is, or a couple million bucks to play. I don't think Gronk may that much, but it propelled his brand for two more years. And like you said, it's a fifty to fifty shot where he gets another ring after this year.

Speaker 2

What are the poll questions that we considering first hour see.

Speaker 3

I think we're going to put up a Travis Kelcey one too. If you were Travis Kelcey and the Chiefs win the Super Bowl.

Speaker 2

This year, would you retire or keep it rolling? Okay?

Speaker 7

All right?

Speaker 2

H seven seven to three DP show email address Dpadanpatrick dot com, Twitter handle at DP show. Still not a lot of information about the why Luca was traded. What I hate to see is people in the Mavericks organization are covering the Mavericks leaking information about Luca. Luca was this problem, his weight, was it drinking? You know, he didn't fit in with the culture. Do you want to

spend that kind of money on him? Well, the Lakers did, so, you know, this is one of those one of these franchises to say they won this deal has to win a championship here probably in the next three to five years. If you're Dallas, the next two years, you have to win a championship, and even then your GM could still get fired in three or four years from now. Even if you want a championship this year and then all of a sudden things went south because Anthony Davis couldn't

play or Kyrie won it own. I mean, you're going to be looking at what's going to happen with this GM, his future there. But with what the Lakers did, the Lakers were able to you know, they hit the reset button. And I thought, because of that, you have the money, you got star power, and that's what Los Angeles is all about. You got star power. And it allows Lebron to defer to you know, Luca, and Luca can learn

from Lebron. I think that's the most important part of this is now Luca can see that's how you become a professional, and that's how you can play for twenty years, conditioning and wanting.

Speaker 7

You know.

Speaker 2

But people, I think misinterpreted the off season for Luca. He did play basketball in the offseason. He played Olympic basketball. It's not like, you know, he was on the beach just pounding beers. Now, he might have been at some point, but he was still playing basketball. Yes, and then they make his way down to be two seventy five when he got off the plane, he didn't look too seventy five.

Speaker 4

Well, I saw that video after Marvin reference it. He was wearing all black hoodie, sweats, had to toe. It was a little Manny Ramirez ish. Remember when many would go baggy and you couldn't tell what was under there. I couldn't tell what was under I think.

Speaker 2

It's more like Denzel in Equalizer. Yes, you can't tell what's going on. Yeah, Like Denzel looks out of shape, you know, with all black. They're still lighting people up though, Yeah, he is, and so is Luca.

Speaker 7

Yeah.

Speaker 2

One point five seconds he's broken the arm and stolen the gun. You're like, whoa, how did that guy do that? He wasn't it always like ten seconds? They had ten seconds with Denzel thirty Yeah, Oh it's like a click the watch.

Speaker 4

Yeah, if you and you see Denzel check his watch, I've run for my life.

Speaker 2

All right, we'll take a break. We'll come up with our poll question. Your phone calls are always welcome. We'll get to those.

Speaker 7

Coming up.

Speaker 2

Albert Breer, the Monday Morning Quarterback, the Future of Miles Garrett, and Cooper Cup. We'll talk to Charles Barkley a little later on. Brady Quinn and Cooper Manning of the Manning Family will stop by as well. Glad you're part of the program. If you're watching on Peacock, thank you for downloading the app or listening on our radio affiliates around the country. We'll take a break back after this Dan Patrick show.

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Speaker 2

We weren't able to bring a studio audience in to watch the show, and a lot of people have asked about that. We're at a great place for pickleball, the Exchange in New Orleans and the Danez. They decided that they wanted to have a match coming up and it's going to be front row back row. So it's it's Marvin and Paul le versus Fritzy and Setan and they're going to play later on today. And I had the odds to win the match here. So Seaton and Todd

right now are favored. Seatan and Todd are favored. H Todd yesterday banging around a little bit, and you you had some had some skill, but I enjoyed it. You of course played tennis in high school.

Speaker 5

I was back up to the second doubles.

Speaker 10

So if the last player on second doubles was hurt or sick or whatever, they might give me the chance to get up there.

Speaker 2

That would make you the third I don't think there was third doubles.

Speaker 10

There was like you sit there and we'll let you know if everybody else can't play, you know, And then they're actually, I'm not even joking.

Speaker 5

Some kid pulled up like in.

Speaker 10

A wheelchair from one of the other high schools and he's like, you know, and they didn't even guarantee me I was gonna play in that match.

Speaker 5

I was like, we may go to you here, so warm up. You got fred Fred over there from Lafayette.

Speaker 2

High School in the wielchair area.

Speaker 5

Is oh that okay, all right, little offenders.

Speaker 3

What's funny is that, for like the last almost twenty years, we've done nothing but make fun of Todd's alleged tennis career until today where it's like, well, yeah, but Todd played tennis, so of course he's gonna be good.

Speaker 7

Yeah.

Speaker 2

Wow, all of a sudden, Todd's a tennis player. Before that, he's a guy who never played sports. To the alst guy shared.

Speaker 5

The story, it might be a pick him.

Speaker 2

Now, yeah, no, no, no, your favorite Well Todd is a tennis you're.

Speaker 10

I was on the tennis team and I got a couple of trips based on what everyone else accomplished.

Speaker 2

I watched the athleticism of the other guys. I think you're ahead of the game.

Speaker 10

I'm some plantar fasciatis. I don't want to make excuses, but both my heels hurt.

Speaker 2

Lot what injury will be sustained? First, I got the odds are knee, achilles or ankle, hamstring, hip, arm, slash, elbow. I don't really care for this one. Gotta admit, just score first point, Seaton, You're the big winner there. I'll take that player to miss the ball or hit the ball out of play or into the net. The congratulations Paulie. Yeah, I even call that one over under excuses complaints in the match four and a half. Oh, I'm going over

with that. But these are the odds. The backroom guys came up with the odds.

Speaker 3

We've already had that in just this segment. We're not even playing yet. We're at at least five yes todds. They're a chair up or rep. I didn't notice that.

Speaker 10

I was watching other people play that were very into their pickleball, and I guess it's just kind of gentlemen's rules as far as you know, if there's an argument about a call, yeah, we just kind of work out amongst themselves.

Speaker 2

I'm gonna be the headlinesman. Yes, yes, see, there.

Speaker 3

Was a moment yesterday where we were practicing a little bit and it took like thirty seconds.

Speaker 2

So I was like, oh, we got this.

Speaker 3

This is easy, you know, and we're playing, and then the coach here, the pro was like, okay, but you're supposed to do it like ten feet apart from each other. We were playing the game like it was tennis, you know, like spread out all the way. Okay, but you're supposed to be like right up on the net doing it, which I still.

Speaker 5

Plan to play exactly like I said, take my chance. And someone says, you were in the kitchen. You were in the bedroom. Why were you doing that in the den?

Speaker 2

It's living room.

Speaker 5

You gotta let it bounce. You can't go into the dining room and hit.

Speaker 2

Us the kitchen. That's it, cool man.

Speaker 5

I think her name was Muriel.

Speaker 7

She came over to me.

Speaker 5

You've never played before.

Speaker 2

You were dinking in the laundry room. Oh you guys don't understand the ryals. Okay, Muriel, two bounces. Murial. I don't remember seeing Muriel, but she was there.

Speaker 5

With Gloria and they would Sadie.

Speaker 10

They were all there, they were looking and the other you came in from Palm beach to play a pickle ball with us.

Speaker 7

I know what's going on.

Speaker 2

Yes, I like Todd's doing every old pickleball stereotype.

Speaker 7

If that's the thing.

Speaker 4

Everyone here that we've seen playing is like twenty three years old, shy jack. Every guy looks like a bold and there's some tough football player.

Speaker 2

Yeah. Janis Winston plays here. Uh, Cam Jordan plays here.

Speaker 5

Mike Dunley Bey came by the chat with you.

Speaker 2

How about that. Mike Dunlevy senior. Mike dunley Vy senior came in. He plays pickleball five days a week. A little bit of a social scene around here. It was yeah, like if I'm single, yeah, I'm picking up a rocket. That's why I started to figure it out a little bit. This was I was like, oh wait a minute, I think I know what's going on here. They got a bar here, Yeah, they got two. Oh see that's why this place is so ready. Yeah yeah, hun, I'm going

to go play pickleball. Yeah, so be back one, let's just go grab a drink.

Speaker 10

Okay, yes, but they're right, bo I got the stereotypes all wrong. I thought pickleball was one type of group where, like, you know, the seventy to ninety crowd or something like that.

Speaker 5

Oh my back, I get last next point wins. I can't. I got four o'clock dinner.

Speaker 7

It's not like that.

Speaker 2

Who says oi A lot a lot of yeah, oh yeah here, oh so human?

Speaker 5

Maybe not here, but that's what I pictured pickleball to. No, I can't hit.

Speaker 2

You think it's like, you know, shuffle board or something.

Speaker 10

Yes, activity you can do. It's the last thing you do before your bed ridden. That's what I thought it was. But it's not that one.

Speaker 2

All right, So we'll have that for you a little bit later on today the match it's Todd and Seatan versus Marv and Paulie. Oh yeah, it's is.

Speaker 10

Your point system by No, I'm curious, like, how do you were favored by?

Speaker 5

Is it two and a half points?

Speaker 2

Is it?

Speaker 5

What is the number? How does the how do they say pickleballs?

Speaker 2

Points about? We wear about that later. All right, we got a show to do. You know him as the top NFL reporter for the Monday Morning Quarterback. He's borderline a member of this show at this point. He is the Monday Morning Quarterback. He's Albert Breer who joins us on the program. You. Yeah, alrighty man, what like are you going surfingers?

Speaker 7

Blake?

Speaker 2

You got you got camo shorts on like you got burken stocks.

Speaker 7

It's my my casual look this morning.

Speaker 2

It's like you're you're picking up the baton from Peter King the way he used to dress. Peter would wear the shortest of shorts.

Speaker 7

I'm constantly in his shadow.

Speaker 11

I guess yeah, I uh.

Speaker 4

I, I.

Speaker 11

Messed up the time zone and so like that that that has that that contributed to.

Speaker 7

My to the state I'm in right now.

Speaker 2

Okay, Central time you got stood up a little.

Speaker 7

Bit still adjusted. Well, no, I messed up. I messed up some of the.

Speaker 11

Timing, as Todd knows, and yeah it was uh I'm here though, I'm here all right.

Speaker 2

So how surprised were you with the Miles Garrett trade request.

Speaker 11

I'm not shocked because these things like have happened over the last ten years.

Speaker 7

I think the dynamic in the NFL has changed. You know.

Speaker 11

What was really interesting about it to me is like that he went public the way that he did, which sort of tells you the truth, which the truth is that their request has been in and the idea of going public is that he's frustrated that they're not accommodating him, and so you know, I think what going public does for him now is it puts him in a position to put or puts the Browns in a position where they don't have to pick up the phone at all.

They can say, we're not we're not changing our position. We are we are, but calls are.

Speaker 7

Going to come in. You know, obviously he is what he is, which is probably, I.

Speaker 11

Don't know, one of the tough five or so defensive players of the last decade.

Speaker 2

So let's he worth.

Speaker 11

I think the base lines that is two first round picks, So I think you go started that number and then go from there. It's what Jalen Ramsey got, It's what Larmy Tunsel got.

Speaker 7

Now.

Speaker 11

I think, you know, you got to do something to get the Browns' attention, So maybe it winds up being more than that. The other thing you have to remember, I mean like, two first round picks sounds like this eye popping hall. The reality is the team, most of the teams that are gonna want Miles Garrett are gonna be teams that are gonna win now spot and their picks are going to be down in the twenties or even the thirties, you know.

Speaker 7

So yeah, I mean I expect there to be a lot of interest.

Speaker 11

And you know, I mean the Browns position is what it should be right now, which is like we're not trading a generational player.

Speaker 7

Were in the playoffs two years ago.

Speaker 11

So you know, I think for another team coming in, it's like you really have to do something to get their attention.

Speaker 2

We've talked about this before. Dion Sanders impact on the draft with his son, and there was a report that Dion would not want his son to go to the Cleveland Browns if they were to take him. Would that scare off the Cleveland Browns in your opinion, I.

Speaker 11

Don't know he's going that high anyway, but I think it's something they'd have to consider. And you know, I think we saw it twenty years ago. When a guy has an NFL dad, generally those guys are more business minded. I think you can even see it with like the way like a Patrick's or Tan carries himself.

Speaker 7

You know, it's when when.

Speaker 11

A guy's got a dad's who's been through it and went through it, they generally have like a they naturally have a really good feel for the way the business works.

Speaker 7

And you know, I don't blame Deon for looking.

Speaker 11

At it and saying, I just want my kid in a good situation. I want my kid in a situation that's going to give them the best chance to have a ten to fifteen year career as a starter in the NFL.

Speaker 7

And I think Dion's smart enough to know that.

Speaker 11

Like you look at the best quarterbacks in the league, how many went into bad circumstances, Like we always talk about how they go to bad teams. Josh Allen was drafted by a playoff team. Well, Lamar Jackson was drafted by a playoff team. Patrick Mahomes was drafted by a playoff team. Like, all of those teams were in the playoffs the year before, so they weren't going to broken situations.

Not to say they wouldn't have made it anyway, but like they went to situations that weren't just complete train wrecks. So you know, I think Dion obviously has been around long enough to know it and see it and see the difference between one thing and another.

Speaker 7

And obviously once it was best for his son.

Speaker 2

But you look at Cleveland, it's almost like that is the epicenter of the NFL because you got Deshaun Watson, they have the number two pick, and then you have the Miles Garrett situation. You play in a very competitive division as well. I don't know, are they closer to being good or close to being really bad?

Speaker 7

I so I think they're in an interesting spot in that.

Speaker 11

The core that they have only has so many more shots, you know what I mean. Like, so you got Miles Garrett going into year nine, you have Denzel Ward going into year eight. You've got some really good linement. Joel Batonio has been there forever, who are starting to age, So like, I think it's I still think it's a good operation.

Speaker 7

Like if you look at.

Speaker 11

What they've done, you know, over the last five years, which is where they were before that, they've made the playoffs twice, and the second time they made the playoffs it was amid the Deshaun Watson thing completely falling apart on them.

Speaker 7

So I think it's a good operation.

Speaker 11

That it made a really big mistake in trading for Deshaun Watson, you know, and they got to live with that, and they got to wear that, But I still think, how long do you live with it? Well, I think now is where you don't live with it now now this is where and I've said this since November, like, this plan is not new, is not directly related to

the second Achilles tear. When Watson went down, based on where they were, they had made the decision we are no longer going to to coddle him or protect him because last year, one of the reasons they didn't bring Joe Flacco back was because that wouldn't that may not have been healthy for DeShawn because having Joe the team could look at him and say, like Deshaun, the team could look and say, we've got a better option in the room with him and Joe Flacco, and that wouldn't

have been wouldn't have been great for Deshaun coming off of that injury. After what they went through this year, they made the conscious decision and this was in season, they made the decision where at the very.

Speaker 7

Least going to add competition to the room. So rather than trying.

Speaker 11

To build a quarterback room to support him, we're gonna we're gonna put somebody in there who could take his job.

Speaker 7

And so that was a baseline.

Speaker 11

Before he had the second Achilles tear and then he has the second Achilles tair and now you know again like it's just like how to me, It's like when you're looking at guys like Garrett and you're looking at guys like Garrett and Ward on that roster, it's it's timelines. It's like, can we fix the quarterback position fast enough to get good enough to compete at a high enough level to contend for a championship?

Speaker 7

Wild? Garrett and Ward and some of those other guys still have something left.

Speaker 2

Each Albert Breer, the Monday morning quarterback. Uh, Cooper Cup on the market, what does he bring in refferent?

Speaker 11

I mean it's a different kettle of fish than Garrett. You know, we talked about the two of them.

Speaker 2

Because this is a playoff team. But I know there's a big number with Cooper Cup's salary. Yeah, is that what they're real?

Speaker 7

I think it's just sort of run its course.

Speaker 11

They also have a big Like no one's talking about the Matthew Stafford thing.

Speaker 7

I don't understand it, Like, I.

Speaker 11

Don't understand why nobody's talking about the idea that Stafford could be available. And then if you're another team, you're probably calling the Rams that contract negotiation last year was tough.

Speaker 2

But you're seven points away from the NFC title game.

Speaker 7

I know, I know. But here's the thing.

Speaker 11

Like, so they went through i mean like a legitimate, like four or five month negotiation, they wind up being and dating it right like in the summer.

Speaker 7

So you get to July and they do they push five million dollars forward.

Speaker 11

From twenty five and twenty six into twenty four, guarantee all of it, and then remove all of his guarantees like post twenty four. So now we're into a part of his contract where there's.

Speaker 7

No guaranteed money left.

Speaker 11

He's making less money than he was on the books to make this year because they borrowed from that to give him the money this past year.

Speaker 7

And they had had an.

Speaker 11

Agreement when they they when they did the reworked deal, we're going to revisit it at the end of the year.

Speaker 7

Well, now we're at the point where they're going to revisit it.

Speaker 11

So what if Matthew Stafford wants a market correction and says, what is it, seven or eight guys are making over fifty million, I want fifty million.

Speaker 7

There's just a lot of stuff there where. Okay, But if I'm another team, I make that call, you know, but.

Speaker 2

There's only a couple of teams that are going to make that call.

Speaker 7

Dealers.

Speaker 2

Okay, does his wife want to move out of Los Angeles?

Speaker 7

I mean, and that's a fair question. Yeah, I mean, that's a fair question.

Speaker 11

But I do think I mean, Matthew said he wants to keep playing, you know, so I think the coaches would love to have him back in Los Angeles. I think there's just there's a lot there that they've got to work through over the next few weeks, and maybe it winds up being fine. But I know this, like if I'm one of those teams that if I feel like I'm a quarterback away and I look at the market and I see Sam Donald, Russell Wilson, justin feels that Stafford's the guy who can put you over the top.

I mean it, we saw it four years ago, you know, when he was available in the Rams.

Speaker 7

You know, we put the Rams over the top.

Speaker 11

And the Steelers is another one where I'm thinking of those timelines, you know what I mean.

Speaker 7

TJ. Watt turns thirty one. I believe this year thirty two.

Speaker 11

Minka Fitzpatrick, I believe it's turning twenty nine this year. So the Steelers are like in that same position I talked about with Cleveland where it's like they don't have their answer at quarterback. They don't have a quarterback we can put them in a position to compete with Mahomes, Alan Burrow Lamar in the AFC right now, So like they're sort of in this no man's land with those star players where it's like, can we fix this position fast enough so we can compete with TJ and Minka still.

Speaker 7

At the height of their powers, or.

Speaker 11

Do we have to look at resetting completely? You know, I think that the Steelers are the one where I look at them. It's like if there's a team that could take a swinging quarterback, they would be them, And I'd say, like, just looking at where they're at, Like if I'm them, I'm on the phone with the Rams, I'm saying, look like you, then.

Speaker 2

I would say, we want Cooper cup and Matthew Stafford if you're the Steelers.

Speaker 11

And they would the Rams would probably do that, you know, Like if I'm not, they wouldn't. I'm not saying that they dude Stafford now, but if they had gotten to the point where we're trading Stafford, I think that, you know, you could do some sort of.

Speaker 2

Package deal there, Sam Darnold.

Speaker 11

Yeah, So like the vikings are in, the vikings are I would say comfortable with the idea now of going to JJ McCarthy in twenty twenty five if that's the way things shake out. You know, he lost four months of development time that he would have gotten had he not gotten hurt. But the second surgery was just a cleanup,

and he was very engaged. And if you want to go back to August, like he had done enough to at least create some intrigue in that building, like is he a better option than and Sam had a great year, but it got them to kind of look at their plan and say, is there going to come a point when we want to.

Speaker 7

Put JJ out there this year?

Speaker 11

So he had made that much progress even though they planned in red shirting him. Then he gets hurt and he stayed engaged. Like my understanding is like when the team was out on the practice field, he would go and do his rehab, but other than that he was involved in the quarterback room and all the meetings and all of that. And then he started traveling with the team in October so he could be part of the game day operation, so he could be on the headsets,

all that different stuff. They feel really good about where JJ is and I think what it does. It doesn't mean Sam's gone, but it does give them some flexibility where they can draw lines now.

Speaker 7

And maybe the.

Speaker 11

Answer is to franchise if that's forty million dollars a lot of money, or maybe they can let him go to the market and say come back to us, and like, you know, we don't want to. We don't We may not want to reset the market. We understands the risk we lose you if you do this, but we love you. Go to the market and see what's up. You know it's And it's interesting too because to me, you won

fourteen games. You want to give the veterans on your team, you know, guys like the Harrison Smith's back, you know Jonathan Gernard, you know obviously Justin Jefferson, Christian Derris saw these guys who are part of this fourteen win team, Like you want to give them the best chance at the most important position, so you do want to be stocked there.

Speaker 7

But I do think they feel comfortable with the guys JJ.

Speaker 2

All right, Final thirty seconds. We're going to play the Miles Garrett game. Okay, later on, where will he go? I'll let you have your.

Speaker 7

My favorite destination will be Detroit.

Speaker 11

Oh, I Like, I just think about that, Like, I'm like, they're they're in a spot now where they don't need their first.

Speaker 7

Round pack there they they don't really need.

Speaker 11

To keep starck they like, they may be in a position where, if you're them, you can almost say, like we may only have five or six rookies make our team, you know what I mean? Like, so are they in a position now where it's like we can spend, we can start to flip picks.

Speaker 7

If you're them and you lost all of these coaches.

Speaker 11

And you want to flip the momentum and kind of keep things going in.

Speaker 7

The right direction.

Speaker 11

I mean, God, the idea of Miles Garrett opposite Aiden Hutch I mean, like that.

Speaker 7

To me is really intriguing.

Speaker 11

And so I mean I think Detroit is just Detroit in this championship window.

Speaker 7

And like after I.

Speaker 11

Mean they had so much momentum and then they the ugly loss to Washington and it was six or seven coaches, and it's like looks like, oh God, are they missing the window. What's the easiest way to flip that?

Speaker 2

That's interesting. I like that. Albert Breer, the Monday Morning Quarterbacks senior NFL reporter, Thanks.

Speaker 11

You, by the way, they did call at the trade deadline on Miles Okay he was now he was not a bailable but they at least inquired when they traded for Zadarius Smith.

Speaker 2

So thanks again. You got it all season long. We'll come back. Our Play of the Day up next Charles Barkley at the top of the hour.

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That was a good visit from Albert Breer. I did not think of I knew the Lions inquired about Miles Garrett, or at least there was a report that they were going to and the Browns denied them that. But now here Miles Garrett wanning out And if you're Detroit, your window of opportunity, as we've seen before, just ask San Francisco. It closes quickly. I also have the DraftKings odds. Miles Garrett will play his next snap four Marvin, I'll start with you.

Speaker 7

The Chicago Bears.

Speaker 2

The Bears not in the top five, Todd, The Green Bay Packers, they're not in the top The Atlanta Falcons, they're not in the top five. Wow, Seatan the Commanders their second.

Speaker 7

On that, let's go.

Speaker 2

The Browns are the favorites, not going anywhere. Then it's the Raiders, which I wondered about that. Max Crosby, Miles Garrett. Okay, that's something going on there. Then it's the Lions not really helping his case if he wants to go to a winner though, that is true, but Tom Brady's a winner and he'll be there, so he might not think that, so nobody he would just hang around Tom. He would hang around a winner, not necessarily his teammates. The Patriots

also in there as well. But I think that's interesting with the Cleveland Browns. The Browns, of course they're going to say not going anywhere. They want to see how much they can get for Miles Garrett. But if you look back on the Khalil Mack trade, when Khalil Mack went to the Bears a few years ago, he was

kind of in the same position here. The Bears gave up first round picks in twenty nineteen, twenty twenty, a third round pick, a sixth round pick, and they got Mac and then the Bears also received a second round pick and the fifth round pick. All right, so that's a lot. So it's more than just two first round picks. But that's where you're starting. That's the conversation gets started with two first round picks. Yes, Marvin, if you're the Lions. Should you pull La Rams and just go all in?

You know what, we don't need all these draft picks. We're trying to win right now. That city, yes, yes, and you know, having depth, and they really tested that because they did as best they could with their defense. They just kept you know, there were too many holes to fill. The Cooper Cup. How about this Cooper Cup odds of where he'll end up next season? Seatan will start with you. The Dallas Cowboys, they're not part of the top five. What, Todd?

Speaker 5

The Miami Dolphins, they're not part.

Speaker 2

Of the top five.

Speaker 7

Paul, the New England Patriots.

Speaker 2

They are fourth on the list. Marvin. The Kansas City Chiefs they are.

Speaker 11

No.

Speaker 2

But that would be typical of the Chiefs.

Speaker 5

I mean they just got Theandrea Hawkins. It's not possibility.

Speaker 2

No, that'd be one of those where they go way. They got Cooper Cup. Yeah, they gave up a fourth round pick.

Speaker 7

What the heck?

Speaker 2

What? The Steelers and the Bengals are tied for the best odds to land Cooper Cup. There's a report the Rams want to trade him if they do out out of the NFC. So the teams on here, Steelers, Bengals, Patriots, Chargers. The Commanders also in there as well. Yes, so would you rather play for the Steelers or the Bengals? Probably rather go to the Bengals, Right, Well, I'm gonna play with Joe Burrow. Yeah, and I don't have to be the number one option with Jamar Chase.

Speaker 3

Their season this year is still one of the more puzzling things that's ever happened.

Speaker 2

How do you have the wide receiver wins the Triple Crown, you have a quarterback who would have been an MVP if they were actually a playoff team, and you have the sack leader as well. I don't know if that's happened before, but you know, Burrow had an unbelievable year. Jamar Chase did, and like Ray Hendrickson, you like drastically underperformed.

Speaker 3

Yes, and no one got fired or anything, right, I don't like nothing happened.

Speaker 2

It was just like, ah, just a fluke season. See you next year. One Hour in the Books on this Tuesday, Charles Barkley will join us. Coming up top of the hour, Brady Quinn from Fox Sports will stop by, and he's the dad of Arch Manning. Cooper Manning. The Manning family will stop by as well one hour in the books. Two more to go, Minister of Humor, Fritzie Marv Seaton, Paula yours, truly, we're back after this

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