Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three, twenty seven, Episode three of Dir Daly's day production of iHeartRadio.
This is a podcast where how.
Do I put this? We take a deep dive into America shared conscious.
Put it that way?
I guess is that is that weird? Foresay it is Wednesday, February twenty eight, twenty twenty four, the last day of February. You fool no way around that. This is definitely the last day of February, and nobody can tell me otherwise. That's right. I'm gonna get so much money on this being the last day of February. Guess I just.
Told you you might. You want to look at a calendar before you put the money down, said, don't need it?
What's this? What's this now?
What is it?
National?
Okay? So it's National Chocolate soup flay Day, National tooth very Day, and National Floral Design Day. So the soup play will lead to tooth decay and then you will need a bouquete. I'm trying to connect them all, but they don't connect them. I wouldna riding someone. You know what, what's the what's like the market price on it? On a on a little straight comper on a on a baby tooth these days for the truth, Oh.
Yeah, it can be tricky. I think. I think the real issue is that I don't usually have like cash, Like in the past I would have cash, but like now it's like, oh I've got a twenty and like I'm not going to the bank at like a night. Yeah,
so it's just it just suctu waits wildly. You put like like well, actually for the even teeth you only get twenty five cents, but like for every once in a while, the tooth fairy is like really proud of you, and so on that one you'll get like ten bucks and this one actually covers the next couple of teeth.
So just be oh wow, you're talking about like a dude who has like debts with a bookie. You're like that should I get me?
Good?
Like next week I'll get some more to you. I'll get some more to you.
But like Vegas running on this though, just f yi, so you better knock down pretty quickly.
Put like a QR code under there'd be like, yo, dude, just scan this man and then just hit me with a Vemo charger.
It's still their identity.
Yeah, good, idea.
My name is Jack O'Brien aka here come Old Ringo.
He come edging up slowly, he got come face eyeball.
He won handed polar, He.
Got pants down around his knees. Got to be a jerker when he's with his bodies. Come together right now, nut with.
Me and that with no quachies. He got dead the free ball. He make monkey noises, He shoot um all over. He say, I know you and you know me. Got to gunt together so that we can be free, come and get.
Right but me. That is courtesy, if you go Boss two for the discord in reference to the original fourhander. Yeah, actually maybe more than that eight hander on the from the Boys across the Pond, the Beatoles who liked to jack off together just every night, every once in a while, as young men's, as young blokes, they would jack off together. And that's okay, Miles. It's appropriate that we have a little special ak song today because we are joined in our third and fourth seats by two of the hosts
of the podcast Jorge Center. It's the Them Jorg Center Boys. First, we've got America stepped at Christy Amagucci Man aka Will Pool, and we got Josh Robbins. They are them George Center Boys. Welcome fellas to der Daily's.
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Josh, Josh, I'm gonna take this opening work. Okay, all right, thanks thanks for having us on again. We're gonna go back to nineteen seventy seven.
On a podcast with Miles Grade Woo Dictors with no hair worm passing Gord eat us Right's up.
From Jack O'Brien's chair.
Numb ahead for the listeners, Wow, futures not lookin brih.
News is heavy and the topics.
Ground some For daily guys, Wo, will we find out some more ways? Rock going to Hell. I was thinking to myself, fucking.
Really use some taco bad, So a little fat one said, first, let's get played. Then I heard the voices from my phone.
It was Jack and Miles Gray.
Hello, the Internet.
We got bad was for you.
To the United States, the United States Senate, shity place.
Force too late and we die.
We're hair of born you.
It's election year.
It's election year.
You should hate it. Here Trump's minus tip on It's I'm just I'm just kidding through the entire.
I was like, when it starts coming into play, wow hour, whoa the Internet, We've got bad news is great. I might as well be the subtitle of the show.
Yeah, and not to not to outshine the the other guests that I'm on here with, but I know he just had PTSD from high school of me breaking up the guitar against somebody.
He will outshine me.
Josh, let me take this real quick, Josh, this is all you three.
Okay, let's see all right AKA Josh Robbins and we got every kiss begins.
Okay, jewelries on the way. Please don't lay may. Now about lay May. I'll get your chick fl if you promise, Mester.
Promise rings not fank gold on fon fries, not a dang owl.
That's what I got.
That's from the before I went to see Fantastic.
I love, Yeah, beautiful, there's there.
Yeah, I'm actually impressed. I don't I didn't need a guitar.
You just went a straight voice.
I'm not like a guy. I'm not a prop guy, so you know, but I know I respect like you know, means like carrot top and stuff.
But yeah, yeah, for sure, man, Gallagher, I think, you know, really, Also, apologies to whoever has to edit this episode and level all of that bullshit that I just did.
Because I have no idea the wave file like the it looked okay, but I have no fucking idea whether any of that's going to be usable.
One one eye on the on the lyrics and one eye on the wave files. Yeah exactly. Yeah, that's very considered.
Okay, you're just confused anyway, how are whats so? What are you both coming to us from North cac.
Yeah, that's right, I'm down at the beach Josh's former hometown of Wilmington, Okay, uh as always and then Josh, I live in.
Charlotte, North Carolina. I've lived here for probably so long. I'll just say I'm from here, but you know, my heart is in Wilmington. But Monkey Junction, Monkey Junction, Yeah, yeah, that's where we grew up, near Toteman Zoo, which probably called something else that's not as inappropriate now. Yeah, but yeah, I don't know, I moved away.
Yeah, yeah, here we are.
It's good to have you both, you know, we've had you know, will over here, Christy Yamagucci, Gucci Maine many times and obviously been a lifelong contributor to the show. So it's dope to have you, yeah, both on and you're both podcasting. It's just dope to kind of see how you know just and then like you guys have been best friends since we said sixth grade.
Yeah, sixth grade. Josh was one of my grooms men in my wedding and I was in his wedding as well, So yeah, we've been so like the first time I remember Josh was like I knew Josh sixth grade. But the first time, you know, you have those moments where you're like brain comes online and you're like that that's your first like truly true memory of something or someone.
Is when Josh got in a fight in the cafeteria and one of the counselors like Superman tackled him and the other kid like mister mister Taylor was his name.
He was.
He was like a good like six three six four, and he just comes out of like my periphery and tackles both of them. I think it was over like throwing French fries at each other and uh, you know, French the cafeteria, and I was like, holy shit, that dude is awesome.
He just got tackled by mister Taylo, so yeah, which is funny because it's funny that it took that long for Will to remember me because we sat at the same table for like the whole year.
Is that what you were doing? You were like getting into a fight to get him to notice you. Yes, who time. Yeah, it's a long time to get the nurse singing softly with an acoustic guitar to like just a cloud of girls.
Yeah, we'll just yeah, we'll go with that. We'll say that. That's my middle school and high school.
Yeah.
Sure, geometry teacher who's like, yeah, let me go get my guitar man, or the institute, well remember the youth pastor comes right. Actually, I got a song about a guy named j C. Who is pretty all right.
We had a substitute. His name was mister Beveridge, and every time he started a class he would go, all right, my initial spell tab it's mister Beverage. Get the jokes out, and like we were like, okay.
Okay, all right, and then he's like, now let's crack this one open and get it too.
He juggledycle oh.
Yeah, you got Yeah, everyone knows.
Everyone knows a juggling, unicyclist teacher at some point in their life.
I think so, I think yeah, but yeah, we will author of many of the best aks of all time. The boy of an Angel, as you heard, I mean, as you may have just heard. There is a chance that he actually was so close to the real song that it will get a takedown notice for the first time from an AKA.
But that'd be amazing. And now, apparently the Eagles are very litigious.
I just found out that they're in a lawsuit right now over some handwritten notes to Hotel California. I just learned about that yesterday.
They got some they got some skeleton, they got some things to be litigious over.
Let's just say, yeah, they got some I can imagine, Yeah, you might.
You might not want to look into their history. And then Josh is in a band called Late Bloomer. It's dropping an album on Friday. The musicality of this episode is all right, we're going to get to know you guys a little bit better in a moment. First, we're going to tell our listeners a couple of the things that we're talking about today in the news. And we got a peek behind the curtain of libs of TikTok Chaia rye chick is. I don't know, is that how you pronounce it?
Yeah, there's there's many ways to say it. But this person doesn't deserve their respect.
Right, just a fucking monster, not really their their perspectives, their positions not super well thought together.
I pronounce it demon spawn demon.
Yeah that's interesting. Yeah, I guess there's a silent ch but yeah, that's yeah, really bad. And you know, now a lot of people are noticing her role in Oklahoma after the death of sixteen year old non binary student next Benedict. So we'll talk about that whole mess. We'll talk about the Willy Wonka experience that just opened in Glasgow.
This is glass.
That just yeah, that is I think a new low for Like we've talked about these like weird little like pop up museum things, Yeah, that happen around around the world. They're basically like Instagram driven marketing traps, like the modern equivalent of tourist traps. Sometimes they're really fun. Yeah, this one is it's like really fun to look at from a farm.
So yeah, it's like going back not to get to ahead of it.
But going back to yesterday's episode with how boring the AI dystopia is going to be. Apparently all of this ship was driven with AI. So just one more example of just how like even tourist traps are going.
To suck more.
Yeah, you know, like every aspect of life, even the ones that are already shitty, are going to get so much worse.
Although they made up some cool new words, there's some like wild shift happening on the marketing material catacating.
Oh, that's the most exciting. Let's let's not reveal all of the garbled the AI words the marketing materials.
We will be talking about Carchie Carchie tones tons later on, but ah, that plenty more. But first will Josh, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that is revealing about who you are?
Josh? Yeah, So I was looking at it and it was just a bunch of searches of like UI UAX stuff because I'm in a course right now, and then at the bottom of it it was That's My Boy, the movie with Adam Sandler. So I felt like that was like, no, every search I feel like has some Adam Sandler search in it. Then that's truly me. Like, even if I have to like try and pass this course, there's always going to be some nod to the twenty
twelve film That's My Boy starring Adam Sandler. Wait, that's where I'm at.
Will you like write that into your paper and be like, this can best be understood from the perspective of Adam Sandler's character and that's My Boy, Yeah, Donnie exactly.
Yeah.
Of course.
To give the listeners and you guys a fair warning, never take movie advice from Josh because he will watch literally everything and think most.
Of it is good.
He's no, you got you gotta be well rounded. I mean that's a I think it's super important. Like there's different scales. Like I feel like a lot of times when people review a movie, they're like, is it as good as Godfather? And you're like, I don't know why that's seemingly the scale. But there's Adam Sandler movies and they're on a different scale. Is it good and on the Adam Sandler scale? Right, So you got to put things on different scales.
Well, when people ever ask if people ever ask me this stuff, like, oh, is it as good as Godfound I'm like, I've never seen it, dude, but like, yeah, this ship is fuck, this is tight, this movie fun?
Yeah, yeah huge, Halloween is better than God?
Yeah this Home?
Yeah exactly, you guys, that's not a bad metric to use. Actually, like is the movie better then That's My Boy? And like it's it's like the old like is it bigger than a bread box? When you're trying to guess the size of something?
Is it better than That's My boy?
Is it better than That's my boy?
Yeah? Has everybody seen That's My Boy? I haven't. That's my boy?
I don't think that multiple times.
I feel like I have. I know you feel like.
I feel like I watched like seven or eight Adam Sandler movies and that's like I'm pretty good, Like I get it, Like I know he's gonna do a voice in the movie.
Yeah, and then why exactly?
And that he's you know, there's gonna be probably a love interest or something like that. He's gonna do a he's gonna do a thing.
And that's good.
I'm good.
You good for him. I'm glad he gets to take his friend's Yeah, it's a it's a rateed R wrong though, that's where it's different than your big Daddy's. So okay, I did not and it has Andy Samberg.
Yeah, that was the one that was like Andy Samberg meets Adam Sandler, like the new Adam Sandler meets the old Adam Sandler and his hilarity.
And Vanilla Ice is his uncle, Andy Samberg's uncle, like but himself, I've never got oh like Adam Vanilla Ice as van Winkle. I think I think the joke is like he doesn't like talking about Vanilla Ice. Yeah, he's Rob van Winkle.
Now Ice for me, Like, I've never really gotten into his acting work. I just appreciate the political guidance making a list. If you're making a list, you have a letter box, please, but cold as I and it's.
What is it?
I don't know. I think you situation. I just like kind of take their political cues. I don't really like their act them as actors. Fair fair, Yeah, how about you will?
What's the most recent one that I thought exemplified who I am as a person is ancient chicken breeds ancient species of chickens. Because I recently found my most favorite Twitter or not Twitter, but film complaint on Twitter that I have ever seen, which is this I'm going to read it is from at Schwarmier.
I one.
I don't know how you say that anyway, my pet, thank you, my pet Peeve is non period chickens running about in farmyards fairly frequently they will be modern hybrid layer types that did not exist before the nineteen seventies. So I got like I saw this, and I quote tweeted, I was like, this is my favorite thing I've ever seen. Like there's I am someone who has weird hang ups about movies, but nothing on this level, like this is
a specific interest that's incredible to me. And then I come to find out that a lot of the like you see a movie that's set in the seventeen hundreds, a lot of the chickens that are in there are very modern looking chickens. They are not what we think of when we think of like you know, I don't know. In my mind, I guess like the classic chicken that you imagine would be like the oldest kind there is,
you know what I mean? But it yeah, exactly, But in reality, a lot of those wild looking like polish hens and stuff with like what you know, it looks like they have like haircuts and stuff and all this crazy country.
You know what I'm talking about.
They those are way older breeds and species of chicken then I had. I thought the fancy ones are like way older.
So we like invented It's like how the American accent is the old British accent exactly. Brig is like how the British people you speak, and they just invented the old fashioned sounding British accent because they were like, this sounds fancy exactly exactly.
There's so there's there's like obviously all sorts of anachronisms in period pieces, but I love it when someone who has a really hyper specific interest in a field or an area tells you why it's anachronistic, and they're very you know, tiny little slice of expertise.
Are there period accurate chickens that exist?
Is there?
Like?
Yeah, apparently there is a species called the Dominique chicken, I'm assuming named after Dominique Wilkin, basketball.
Player for the Atlanta Hawks.
Yeah, who.
Exactly also a classic in his zone, right, And so the Dominique chicken has this crazy black and white, tiny feather like coloring. You've probably seen one before, but apparently it's like the oldest American breed of chickens and they're still around, so they could use this, but it's not what anybody would imagine running around a barnyard. If you like watch the movie, you'd be like, those chickens don't look right there, right.
Those chickens look like they're in thirty seconds to Mars, like a little like fucking haircut, you know, like why are those chickens have pitst haircuts? It's like that's how they were man, Yeah, exactly.
Exactly, And apparently like horses are the same way horses and sheep. Like a lot of like I found out a lot of barnyard people or farm farmers and stuff like people that raise cattle raise animals get really annoyed by this because they're like that horse didn't exist at that time period or that sheep.
So it's like for soy face yes, examly, like there's like you can't you can't have that face and be like in this. I guess like the same thing with like people were like win on a rider. I feel like in the nineties we were like, she doesn't look like she would be in eighteen hundreds, Like people were like you know that face is scene an iPhone, So it's like that works for chickens.
And you couldn't put Aaron Paul in a movie from the seventeen hundreds.
Noah, Like he just did not.
Michael Douglas is my favorite example, where like they put him in that lion hunting movie and nobody wanted to see because they're like, no, he's got to be at a desk like trading stock while getting exact suns, like yeah, that, but his face gives off Yeah this guy like that guy has done cocaine in the last couple of months. Yeah, and you have him like out here with just like
soot on his face. Yeah, amazing. Yeah, I mean I remember the worst version of this was like James Cameron got called out for like the stars being in the wrong position in Titanic. I think it was like I fucking.
Neilda Grass and see and that's millions of dollars to correct it. Yes, so uh Neilda Grass.
Tyson gave this whole thing a bad rap because he's kind of like he comes off like kind of douchey, and he's you know, like pop science kind of kind of guy.
And I completely understand that. However, I reading all the replies and the quote tweets for me bringing this up, posting this on Twitter. People's hyper specific, like you know that country doesn't have ziggarattes in it or whatever, like architectural thing or or the type of saddle being used or h the witch.
I forget who directed it, like they didn't have that type of candle because you know, candles back then were made out of like whale fat or something. You know, just exactly like, I love that weird, hyper specific stuff that makes me go down a rabbit hole.
For Titanic, the stars were in the right place. They were at the front of that boat, hanging.
One another.
And queens of the world.
Yes, exactly, all right, let's take a quick break, we'll come back. We'll do some rated, some over and underrated. We'll be right back and we're back. And Josh, you want to kick us off with a little bit of a what do you think something underrated?
Underrated? As uh, it actually ties into my overrated but plane Zelda Tears of the Kingdom because you're unemployed, it's because, yeah, because it hits different when you're unemployed. It has helped and probably hurt my job search. Playing Tears of the Kingdom, not like a game player guy. But I got laid off around the holidays and my in laws gave me Tears of the Kingdom and I was, I don't have
the time. Then I wait, wait, I do have to time. Yeah, and so yeah, I've I've logged many, many hours on it. So I'd say that is my underrated You should be playing Tiers of the Kingdom if you aren't.
You mentioned that it has both hurt and helped your job search. How have you met prospective employers while playing Cheers the Kingdom? How has it helped your job?
I brought it to a job interview and I was playing during the interview and go to interview. I need to figure out why.
I can't find a job.
Have no clue.
I think it hurt because it's probably hours I could have spent.
The hurt is clear. The hurt is clear. How's it helping?
Oh uh, it's helped because it's helped my mental health. There you go like, I have this, Yeah, I have this to look forward to you today. I have to finish this temple, you know. I tell my wife, like, hey, I know you're in a meeting, but I really have to beat this boss down. Yeah, I'm focusing, Daddy's focusing.
Can't you use headphones, Josh, No, I can't. They didn't have headphones back then in high role. So then what's you're overrated?
My overrated is being unemployed due to tech layoffs. It is is uh fun enough when you start out, you're like you're getting some money in when you get unemployment and things, but then that runs out. Because we live in North Carolina. I'm not sure what the how it works in California, but here in the South, we get like certain period of times and then you're like done, You're cut off. You can't like reapply, and you're just actually come to your house and kick you in the nuts.
Yeah, you can get I think like somewhere around twenty something weeks in California. I think it's like weeks or something.
Yeah, well the swift kick in the knuts.
Yeah.
So with that, I mean, with that, it's it's led me into oh, I need to figure out where I'm going to go and tex So that's where those ui UX classes come in there, because you got you got to get things on your resume. I think you gotta, you know, you get it's like catching Pokemon. You got to have these little things so that people will look at you and go ooh something. Besides Tiers of the Kingdom, you can also add Pokemon to your resume. Put that on a bunch and they said please take that off.
They're like, yeah, well, looking for people to play pow World.
Sorry, no, that's my problem there you go.
Well, how about you? What's something you think is underrated? What's something you think is overrated?
Underrated? I would say, uh, normal human beings attempting to fight professional football players. Yeah, did you guys see the video of Cam Newton, Yeah, handling those three dudes, four dudes,
however many of there were. It was incredible and disclaimer disclaimer don't actually do this, but you should absolutely attempt to fight Uh, former football players who are used to having eleven people trying to kill them at you know, being paid millions of dollars because they're good at preventing that from happening.
Yeah.
I And and it's underrated because I then get to watch the video of you getting your ass kicked by a football player. People do not understand how big these human beings are and how strong they are, and how they're used to just like again, like Cam Newton's one of the greatest runners of all time, not for a quarterback but in general.
Just period, just period.
He's six four six four or sixty five and two hundred and forty five pounds and he just he handled those guys. His hat didn't come off, like his hat hat literally stayed.
On his head.
Yeah, what kind of hat. It looks like it's wearing like a witch's hat or something.
Yeah.
He he absolutely looks like like he's in wather.
He's got that hipster flat brim kilgrim hat with like his dreads coming out of the top. Yeah, he looks.
He looks like he's Dick Tracy almost, or like a Dick Tracy villain. But it's this specific brand of hat that he's been having made custom for him for a while now.
It looks like the old guy from Poultrygeist too.
Yeah, he does have like Quaker oats guys. Yeah, a lot of people don't realize that. I think kids.
I feel like kids forgot. Do you remember the Mike Valley fighting videos he was a professional skateboard.
Oh yeah, they were like ky and stuff.
Like kids need to watch those, And that's like the probably like Cam Newton is going to fuck you up. Like it's like Mike Valley can take on fight five people. He was, he was like a big guy. Yeah, but like that's that's the lower and that's.
Especially like, yeah, like a quarterback who then starts growing dreads Like that's because they've had some kind of evolution, you know exactly, So like they were probably on top of the physical prowess. They're like mentally now on another plane too, where they're like, oh, the three of you against me.
And the amazing thing is that Cam didn't even like he didn't really get violent back with him. He just use their momentum and did the quarterback thing of like I'm like, it's it's like he went it's like he had a a like a Vietnam flashback and went into soldier mode and just didn't want to get sacked. So he's like immediately it's like it's like the pocket closed in on him by three guys who are also swinging on him, and he just he just moved them around like they were.
Absolute rack unnecessary roughness. Yeah yeah, penalty.
Yeah, it was.
It was super funny to watch, and I obviously don't want people going and trying professional athletes, but also I kind of do because then I get to watch the videos.
So you get bonuses as a professional athlete. Yes, absolutely, Yeah, well something you think is overrated, will I'll keep this one short.
Not wishing things on your worst enemy. Not they're your worst enemy. You should try it sometimes it feels great. You should wish all the worst things on your worst enemy. So yeah, it's pretty straightforward.
You think we're right now, like America is just is just chicken shit. Now, we don't even worst the worst on our work.
Yeah, it's like it's nice to our worst enemies.
So what happens, I'll say.
You know, because so much of my uh, I guess, like persona revolves around Twitter and shit, so I get scolded on there a lot. Like there's been a few recent tweets where I've started fake rumors about awful people dying and like like Mitch McConnell and Ian Miles Chong recently I started a whole like time quoted my tweet on their website and stuff. I said that the president of the Premiere of Malaysia executed him and I just
like popped out. I just tweeted it and then went to sleep and then woke up and it had like like fifty thousand likes and had like millions and millions.
Of views, and people were like, what the fuck did this really happen?
And people, and of course I get scolded by people who are like this is it's wrong when the right does it, and it's wrong when the left does it, and I'm like, yeah, but I'm correct and I'm not.
A piece of shit.
This this, this quote came out of a Dale Earnhart avatar account exactly exactly.
The only reason it got traction is because I used the little red light alert emojis and put like breaking I and my song executor signed by the premiere of Malaysia he was thirty four years old or something like that, and pusted his picture.
Hey man, Dale would know because he's up there.
Exactly, thank you, thank you very much. But yeah, people, so I have fun online and people get mad about it, and I'm just saying, get off your high horse, stop being high and mighty, and like, wish you know they're your worst enemy.
You should and it's a wish.
Your wish doesn't matter exactly exactly, there's no matter.
I was kind of annoying to me because I started my painting of Dale Earnhardt and Ruth Bader Ginsburg welcoming him into heaven, and a week later it was debon Yeah, fake news.
Yeah, it was fake news.
Well, I'm glad to know that you're gonna have the same post your second career as uh, you know, George W.
Bush. You're gonna Yeah, you're just gonna get into jack both war criminals.
Yeah, a lot of people don't know that about me. Yeah, little fact, little un fact. I'm glad. Do you guys like my flight suit? My mission mission accomplished?
Don't?
I love the banner behind you too?
How ask? Don't ask them.
Let them compliment you organically if they have to, they'll do that if they like it.
Don't I'm taking I'm taking this pick up course for Miles, and he's got to teach me a little thing the compliments.
Man.
Just let the outfit do the talking.
Do you guys like my shirt? Man? All right? Should we talk about libs of TikTok?
Yeah, here's a daily zeitgeist, a typical hard turn into dark ship. Yeah, so libs of TikTok Shaya chaya rachick, right, chick.
You know this, This account has seen massive growth over the years and like you know, what started out is like a play for election denihialism and COVID misinformation and tales of child trafficking has turned down too, like a full blown lgbtqu plus hate machine and sending like you know, the accounts followers on harassment campaigns against innocent people and recently, Richik,
the accounts operated, was interviewed by Taylor Lorenz. And while at times there are moments that make you laugh at how stupid and ignorant and uninformed she is, her views are inspiring, you know, like real world violence like bomb threats,
death threats, docsing, you name it. And she has this pattern of directing followers towards LGBTQ plus teachers or school administrators other figures like that, and when things get too wild, she'll delete the posts and act like nothing happened, even though she recently said that she wears the label of stochastic terrorists with pride and like in the interview, it's clear that like Reischik doesn't really give much thought to her beliefs in like a way that she can actually
are articulate herself, probably a symptom of just being in your little bubble of hate speech and people like raw rahing this shit on. So here's an excerpt where Taylor Lorenz is asking her just sort of like, what exactly is your issue with trans adults? What harm are they causing? And again really unable to articulate anything resembling a thought.
It's a lie and what harm is it causing?
Do you believe.
I like the truth?
I like truth right, but I'm saying, what's the harm of people expressing their gender identity differently than you believe it to be? What harm are they causing?
Like I said, we are a nation of truth, and I think the truth.
But that's but I'm asking about the harm. What's the harm? You might believe it to be false, but the harm is that.
There's a lie that is very mainstream and as being abouted into every institution.
I guess I'm wondering what the material harm is aside from its maybe something that you disagree with is in your version of the truth is different than their version of the truth. What is the material harm of them living in their life as a woman or man or gender that you don't have.
Not anything that's wrong? Is there a material harm necessarily, so there's no harm, not everything that's wrong as a material harm, e not anything that's wrong as a material harm.
And then there's this other clip too that kind of summed up just how like all over the place this interview was. This is this is like another section of the interview where Taylor Ren's asking a question and then gets interrupted.
Oh, this is my favorite part. I think it's good.
I'm curious kind of how you're thinking, you know, when you think about your the way that you put out content and the way that you think about growing your media empire.
Kiara, this is a blowdob what I don't know what? You know?
What?
I don't know what?
What?
What are you showing me this for? And yeah, like I said, like the interview, it's it's not anything where you're like, wow, this is one of these like this person.
Is here, this is the blood job.
Sorry, it's like two middle it's like two middle schoolers on.
The internet exactly on the internet. What do you want me not to show it to you?
So?
Now what but blowjob?
Do you do?
You deny? Sir? I don't.
I'm sorry, how is this relevant to what I was asking about about the real world? Harm that your account is causing in your actions, and you know this thing has taking evolution like rather now it's just beyond like just sort of this right wing you know account where people are just you know, get to all the the people can fill their tanks filled with hate by ingesting her content.
She now has.
You know, she found a fan in this guy, Michael Walters, who's the Republican School Attendant school Superintendent of Oklahoma, and gave her a spot on the Oklahoma Library Media Advisory Committee where she can sort of continue her campaign to get wokeness out of schools. It should be also noted Reijik has only been to Oklahoma once in her life. She doesn't live there. She like lives between California and
floor Florida. But her posts on her libs of TikTok account did lead to a school receiving a bomb threat in Tulsa.
And so she's basically a resident. Yeah, you've almost gotten the school blown up in a state you basically live.
You can.
That's how you register to vote, Yeah, that's that's how that works. And so now a lot of people are noticing her role in Oklahoma, especially after this death of a sixteen year old non binary student Next Benedict.
So this, this student was.
Violently attacked in a school bathroom in suburban Tulsa and passed away the following day. Police say they don't think that they died as a result of physical trauma, but NeXT's friend, who was also attacked that day, said that Next had indeed suffered head trauma during the incident. So
it's like a very murky but fucked up incident. And like the timing of when the when NeXT's parents are informed is just like it just comes like a total fuck up at every level, and a lot of Ray Chick Rightschik's allies or second well, but she has nothing to do with this, like Oswick, why are you saying that she has blood on her hand? These kinds of extreme political views absolutely have real world effects on kids.
So like Next Benedict's mother, just as an example, said that the bullying began in high school right after Oklahoma Governor Kevin Stitt signed a bill into law that forbids trans and gender expansive kids from accessing restrooms consistent with their gender identity. So it's not hard to imagine how the hate that was inspired by Rachex's past posts would
translate to danger for these marginalized kids. And like, especially when you look at the fact that two years ago the a lot of people are plenty of the fact that the libs of TikTok account went after a teacher in the exact same in the very school district that Next Benedict was part of, for saying that, oh, this person is like a groomer or whatever because they support
LGBTQ plus students. And according to Next Benedict's mother, this was like a teacher that they looked up to a lot, and then two years later this tragedy befalls their family. So a lot of people like this, this is just like we're like, what the fuck is going on? And you're inviting this person to be part of the school administrative body, or at least the overarching or overseeing body
of the school district. And again you look at like there's a recent report that found that like only a quarter of trans youth who are victimized at school were able to report this to a teacher or staff member, and of those who did, half reported that staff helped only a little or not at all. So like the current backdrop of these hostile bills that like target these students only makes this kind of behavior acceptable to their peers,
like in this very like indirect or direct way. And yeah, I mean, like we're also just looking at a whole just a total failure on the part of schools and administrators to actually protect kids. So yeah, I mean this is like I don't right now, there's a lot of people there's a lot more pressure for Rachik to be like ousted from this school body, but as I mean, it seems like there is enough support within the people that make those decisions to keep her there at the moment.
But yeah, it's like, but it's just also alarming when you have these kinds of people, like like you know, running this libs of TikTok account and they truly have no idea of like what they're like, what their actions are doing, how they reverberate in space. They're just kind of like, yeah, I get clicks like this and it's fun. And I don't know, they call me stochastic terrorists. I think it makes me feel important.
I think that's fucking tough as hell dog, right, But yeah, and then meanwhile, just attacking the most vulnerable people in a society like children struggling with gender identity and just and then attacking the people who might support them and make them like slightly less vulnerable. It's just like going down the list of like the easiest like people to fucking bully and harm in a society, like making that your mission.
Yeah, Like we've said this in the past, Like a lot of this is to do with, you know, trying to make mainstream the shame of not being like a cishead person because from their perspective, the world has become too inclusive. So the way to push back against that is to try and revive, like this the culture of shaming people to do that. And yeah, so unfortunately it's like going after people who support these very like vulnerable it's.
Still there, Like it's not it doesn't need to be revived that much. Like there's still a fucking hell of a shame culture for these people to deal with. They're already you know, the most vulnerable to this sort of shaming culture, and then they're just piling on it.
Didn't it didn't go anywhere, that's for sure. They're just like adding fuel to the fire. They're dumping you know, gasoline on it. Yeah, yeah, this this rache is, is uh watching that interview? I didn't watch the entire thing.
I could not take it.
Yet, I could not I could not watch how just for of a better term, stupid she comes across because she you know, not that I expected her to have some like well thought out reasoning behind her her hate campaign. She doesn't know what she believes exactly. She's never given it thought because she's never been pressed to explain it. She's only ever, you know, she only sees the things
that she wants to see online. She is an online person, like definitively, that is exclusively and the moment she has to defend herself in real life to any kind of scrutiny. Not the thing about the interview. There was not a single tough question in it. No, nothing, nothing tough was asked of her whatsoever. Hey, you grew up in this community, right yep? So you've never like met you don't know that you've met an LGBTQ plus person. Nope, just online?
And like, have you met them online? Have you interacted with them online?
Nope? Just just seen videos about them.
But she had the nickelback portrait, things like this is this is a blowjob?
Yeah?
It was.
It was absolutely incredible And also for the listeners if you haven't seen it, her fit that she is wearing during this interview. I put a picture of it in the chat. I don't I don't know if y'all can
see it. She's wearing like the most Christian homeschool mom denim jean skirt and a picture of Taylor Lorenz on her on her T shirt Like that is the yeah, Like and then she sounds as like if you wear that outfit to an interview and then sound as stupid as you do as she does, yeah, you you've You've lost on all fronts, on all there's no coming back from that.
Now.
Having said that, I know her fans are gonna still support her no matter what she says, no matter how stupid she is up from that outfit.
They're like, oh, that shirt's perfect.
Yeah, yeah, you have to you have to come stronger.
I still I still feel like, like ideally in my mind, her Ardent supporters were just like typing that out. But then like you know, with the with the crying behind the mask, yeah faces, like there is something undeniable about that interview of like, oh, this is this is the leader of our little stochastic terrorism.
She sounds this stupid. It is weird when you see people that can't support their own argument, because it feels like if I don't agree with someone and it's like the horrible thing, I'm like, well, if you have a thought out, so you know, like some libertarians, you're like, oh, I guess you believe if you believe what you think. But it's like she truly doesn't.
Take twenty minutes of conversation to get to the bullshit with them, like you're like, oh, I so you're like picking up momentum, I see how you made this mistake and then it's like but yeah, but with her, it was just straight up.
It's hard to look at that fit because I was raised Pentecostal and that's like how all of ye, all of us dressed, you know, and first, but it's weird. It's like, but it's like if my church was in Brooklyn kind of. It's kind of this kind of thing where it's like like, you shouldn't be if you have those views on top of anything, you shouldn't be allowed to dress halfway hip like that should you should? You should?
I don't know what you should be dressed in but it shouldn't be something that's sort of it's like it's like the hip version of like the movie Mimic, you know, like I think that's a human being over there wearing that that fit, but it's really just like a cockroach hands on its face.
Yeah.
I think she did a good job of basically distilling the like this this mentality of hatred down to its essence, which in the end is stupid, you know what I mean, you can't actually say what are the damages that like a more articulate sort of homophobic, transphobic person might be able to be like, well, then this could happen to our kids, But really, at the end of the day is not There's not really none, don't know, and it gives it gives.
The game away of like their their ultimate goal is to get rid of trans people altogether. You know, it's like, well, what harm are they causing? Well, this, ultimately, I'm gonna sit here and sounds stupid, but that's because I don't want to say out loud they're not causing any harm.
We just want to get rid of them, because exactly that's that's ultimately, if she had just skipped all of the hemming and haueing and just said that, like it's almost more of a noble response than than like, you know, sounding like a complete idiot.
You think the owning the Libs thing would have a platform by now it doesn't, but it's like it feels like it eventually you would put fill in the bullet points. But the only purpose is to essentially like reak havoc. But they don't have any actual platform that they stand on. It's liberal tears, that's their platform. That's that's the reactionaries thing is just like I don't know why I'm so angry,
but I'm angry. And as long as it upsets my you know, left leaning ideological opponents, that's all I give a shit about.
Yeah, I mean, one thing we can learn right wing hate mongering fascists are getting better at wearing ironic T shirts, and the left is terrified.
I am scared.
Yes, Yeah, all right, let's take a quick break and we're gonna come back and talk about the coolest museum coming to an empty, closed down Kroger near you. We'll be right back and we're back, And have you guys been to these sorts of like Instagram moment museum? Pop up experiences.
They got those in Wilmington.
I they may have come through here, but as my my kids are a little older now, so I feel like the target demographic is not in my wheelhouse anymore. We've had we have a convention center downtown, and there's been like, you know, come walk with the dinosaurs, but those are actual, like animatronic type.
Yeah, yeah, dinosaurs is in this in these same spaces exactly exactly.
But I have not had the good fortune of experiencing something as magical as Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory.
Actually you can't.
Yeah, yeah, I mean this thing was. I feel this is there's so many red flags for this event, right. First one it's called Willy's Chocolate Experience.
Hold on, is that you will?
This was?
This was my brain child.
Actually, it says funk band. Yeah experience.
Hey, everybody, it's very logical. Yeah.
And so people saw these advertisements on the internet that promised an enchanted garden with sculptures, immersive experiences like a twilight tunnel, whimsical performances from Umpah Lumpas, and when you looked at the art, I mean we talk a lot about ai shit on here, You're like oh, this is some mid journey as these are mid journey renderings here, just nothing absolutely real about them.
There's no real world lighting happening inside this image, absolutely not like things are glowing at ram inexplicably.
Yeah, and then you look at there's this one image that it feels particularly damning that I feel like, I don't want to say shame on the people that bought these forty five dollars tickets about thirty five pounds sterling. But there's one image right that's so it's such a weird, shitty AI thing of an off brand, I guess Willy Wonka.
But the text underneath, right, like when you look at mid Journey or like these other AI generated images, text is always fucked up, like they can't get signs right unless you're like explicitly you to do certain things, like the text is always wacky and which is a telltale sign, and it under underneath it says like you said, Jack Cat gakating live performances, carchiat tonsars, exar surgery, lollipops, uh huh, pasa dice of sweet teats, a passidie of sweet teats.
Is that one had me back on board and they close with that they close strong with a passidie of sweet teats. It's I I assumed cat gicating because cat gckating doesn't like I can tell what they're trying to say with carchie tons, you know, But cat exar suri are two words that I don't I can't like my brain hits those and just like bounces off. It doesn't
know what they're trying to say. So I looked them up, assuming there might be some wonka slang, and the this story is the only place that combination of letters has shown up anywhere on the end of.
Well done, Why well done? Yeah, well done? Making up word, It's like that's like me and like my high school essays. I'm like, I don't know, this might be a word, dude, it sounds like syllables I've heard. But yeah, like I said, tickets were around forty five dollars, and what these parents showed up to they were not fucking happy. It's jank city.
This is a clip from local news where you'll just hear a little bit of an angry parent and then you'll hear a quote from a guy who was hired to be like a wonka performer at the event.
Nothing. Oh my god, it's it's fucking gris starting here.
Sank it was. It wasn't even like fear. It was just I just felt sad because I was aware of how many kids we're gonna be coming through and like just looking around the place and just being like this is this is terrible, Like yeah, we were told to hunt the kids like a couple of jellybeans and a quarter cup of lemonade at the end. And I went home to the people were there as well, and it asked about like I was like, what do you want me to do with this script?
Because none of the things that none.
Of that's there?
What do you want me to do? And I was just told do whatever I want.
I haven't seen that video until now, that's uh, because like the most of the pictures I've seen are like they do have a rainbow sculpture that's like, oh, I see this, this would have fit into like a thing like this, but it's just in like an empty warehouse that ye looks like a place that like junkies have
been hanging out. But then you go like the video that we just watched, they're like showing a corner where there's like a futon and three bag bean bag chairs yea, and like it really like it's like, oh, this is a place junkies have been.
Like there was just a box, like a weird like you know if you buy like a flat of like cans or something that costco, like it has like that cardboard base. There was like a cardboard Yeah, like a cardboard base which just fucking.
Spoons in it again and round like this. This is what happened.
So what they didn't put in the brochure is that this is what happened to Wonka's factory after most of the chocolate making was shipped overseas. This is this is what ended up to the interior is like you know, eventually it falls into disrepair and you know, you have you have people doing drugs in the corner of your abandoned building.
You guys happy Now? You made me stop with the op slave labor, so I had to ship the jobs overseas.
You made me do yeah, big import and export in the colonial slave trade. And you know trade was you know, sugar, chocolate and opium. And I think this is.
And it's honestly, it's it's great commentary on modern economies and what has been wrought by private equity and uh you know, just corporate uh you know, control running look of of our laws and stuff.
So I think it's genius.
I really do.
I really appreciate all of this.
It's you know what, it's the audacity right to put up these AI to make make it seem like they're gonna be walking on light up lollipops and a fucking fountain of chocolate flowing everywhere you get in there. It smells like dried piss. There's a bounce castle like off in the corner, there's a quarter cup of lemade quarter couple lemonade. They just printed shitty AI stuff on like a fabric and just nailed it to a wall to
be I don't know. That could be like a backdrop, I guess, or somebody take a picture for the ground literally like.
Sheets, like just like you know, shot by a target, like for it like generic, like oh, it's like an Instagram ad like get your photo printed on a blanket for your love, But.
Yeah, exactly.
Don't you feel like you would like not fall for it though, Like I feel like if I saw the sign and be like no scam, Like it's like when you're a kid, and your parents brought you back like Aladdin. You're like, this is Aladdin. You're like, oh, this isn't right. This is good times Aladdin. You know, it's like the ones that you're like even as a little kid, you knew that it was too soon to the release date for you to have the videotape of Aladdin. You're like, something is fucked.
Up, and you're like this this VHS case is not as soft as the other Disney movies, Like I just yeah, what is this? This is also this is called Alden Yeah, Jason Alden songs or something like that, done in a really problematic way.
The second A in Aladdin is a capital I. That's around it right, right, but like it's not it's not ripping off.
There's like degrees to It's like when I went to Japan, there's this thing called Team Borderless and it was like an amazing, like light experience. There's like nets above the
ground and all this stuff like that. And then like a couple of years later we went to this thing called Meowolf and Denver and it's like it was great, but I was like I kind of wish I didn't go to Team Borderlos first because it's sort of like you can't you can't live up to like yeah, actually mind blowing, like team something like Team Bortolers is oh yeah, and this is like, I mean, is great still, but then you have Wiley wukas you know, sing and it's
like it's just like tears below and it's sort of like my brain still couldn't process Meowolf in the way that Team Bordlos was. So I'm like, I'm not falling for ampylompies.
This is the thing. Like the organizers of the event was called House of Illuminati. Yeah, and I'm like, yo, red right, I'm a flag on the play already, House of Illuminati, Okay, we'll go on. And they were immediately called out because, like someone said, it's like a grand total of ninety seconds to walk through the entire thing.
That's incredible, And like I again, I love this from just a pure chaos. I like.
I would be so mad.
I would have gotten in a fight if I bought those tickets and then walked in there, Like I would have fought one of the os or somebody like out of out of sheer anger of like promising my kid this experience and then spending that much goddamn money on tickets. However, because I didn't, it's as funny as hell. Oh this is great, So this is so hilarious.
The team our House of Illuminati said, quote, Unfortunately last minute, we were let down in many areas of our event and tried our best to continue on and push through and now realize we probably should have canceled first thing this morning, And yeah, what do you mean continue on to like as if this is like a valiant effort to be like, you know, despite that what we were up against, we still had my ex girlfriend who's trying to kick you know, opioids, dresses an Opa lupa and
stand in front of a chemistry kid like.
What that one? Yeah? That's the picture that really because they I think they have a smoke machine in the background.
She don't know, she might be bummed out. She is, she is dealing with some shit like this Oupa Lupa is going through it right now. She's just got an eviction. Notice she like she broke up with her boyfriend. She is hungover, like all of those expressions are on this poor girl's face dressed up as an ooplelopa behind this desk and it is. It's truly one of my favorite pictures I have ever seen, just with the backstory to all of this, it is fucking incredible.
It's amazing.
Bummed out.
Yeah, I love that their statement was phrased in a way that it was like all of their plan hinged on their friend Eric's truck.
Yeah, it's like he had, like, well, you got their plan like that ninety of the things we're going to arrive that morning that they were opening. They're like, Eric, I slept late, man, Eric fucked us?
Where is he?
He's what he said his mom's spoke two hours away.
Yeah.
Also, uh, I don't know if y'all saw this.
I came across this tweet right before we started from Redfield at Redfield Cooper, the guy who organized this scam meaning the Wiley Wonka's Chocolate factory using AI art, has also used AI to write and self published seventeen.
Novels on Amazon.
You can't be so good.
So this this dude house of illuminati? He is he is like knee deep in the AI scamming industry.
Well, to be fair though, I feel like, actually before I came on this podcast that I got an imitation a couple of days ago from Mike and Jeff's Deli Zenith and like, you know, I think a we can all fall for these kind of things. Like it was close enough.
You know you almost joined that one thinking that you had made the big times. Yeah, I was like yeah, Delizena, Yeah, Deli Zena.
So Mike and Jeff Yeah, So that is our spin off show where we try and scam people.
Out of the AI version of Yeah Yeah, where we we Carchier grate all of the head hard hard non nuges of the time.
Well, guys, what a pleasure of having you both on daily. Like, guys, Josh, where can people find you? Follow you, hear you, hear your band, all that good stuff.
Well, you can find me on Twitter as other Jay Robbins if you're just looking for me, and then you can look for my band there as well, called Late Bloomer NC. We have a new record coming out this Friday. If you're listening this week and it's called another One Again, please check us out, put them on, put us on your playlist, Pete, please take us on tour. Playlisting and all that stuff is like super important for bands, So just put us on a playlist. You only have to
listen to it, just skip to the next song. Pla us there and all that stuff. But yeah, just check us out on bandcamplate, bloomer dot bandcamp dot com, and just find us on Spotify and click on all the buttons that do the thing that get us into all the algorithms and all this stuff like that, and that would be great to get. Appreciate it got to get the algorithm.
Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying.
I was enjoying so okay, So it popped up this morning. There's a tweet that goes me after finding my taxes first time as a ten ninety nine and it's got a picture of Oliver Anthony on it, Richmond, that's Mike lineal at Mike lineals. So so that that one got me this morning. I think it's a it's a visual joke. It's really good to tell on the podcast.
Yeah, no, no, that's good. The rich Man from rich Man Guy who's like, yeah, yeah, hand in our pocket. Yeah, Well, what a pleasure having you? Is there working media that you've been enjoying and where can people find you? Yeah?
Thanks for having Megan, I appreciate it for the listeners that might not know Jack and Miles. Let me collect my aka's that they perform and cash them in, like you're at the arcade for appearances. So I cash yeah, the exactly I cashed in my last.
A few times. Yeah, you can get this big Danel stuffed animal.
But I held firm and saved them all up and cash them in for an appearance. So thank you again for having me.
I appreciate it as always.
Yeah, me and Josh host Jorg Center. You can find us at jeort Center pod on Twitter or if you just search jort Center it'll probably come up at this point. And Josh, also because he's terrible at promoting himself, also hosts a podcast called Spinning Out, which is where he has a guest on to talk about their favorite album and they break it down like track by track and just go into like go into an album in depth
on that. I think, Yeah, you're welcome, Jess and uh, yeah, you can find me at the Wopple House on Twitter. And a piece of media that I've been enjoying this has I've thought about this every day since I've seen it from a couple of weeks ago. It's from at Abby Higgs a B B y h I G G S Stone Cold Jane Austen is her handle, which is also good and it is non binary prospector. There's gold in them there hills and there's a little slash between them and the there and yeah, it's it's.
Great, amazing. One of the great follows on Twitter. By the way, I gotta say Christy Amgucci Man, Popple House. Yeah.
I lie a lot on there, and I will make you think that famous awful people have died. So just forgive me for that.
Oh so, don't go to any events he's promoting either.
Yeah, don't the art it's not real.
Yeah, I'm really fabricated.
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This is a group called Ironsides and they're like this Bay Area band that's like doing kind of like psychedelic soul but with like porchestral arrangements, so it feels like, you know, some of the like scoring work of like Isaac Hayes, like David Axel, like these artists who kind of gave us a lot of the samples that a lot of sample based hip hop is based off of.
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