Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of The Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza. Yeah, so, without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist. Like it's what with a with an intro? This dumb? It's really like, we need to bring in our expert guest as soon as possible, because otherwise I might shrivel up and blow
away in a cloud of dust. We're thrilled to be joined in our third seat by an academic and industry leader in fighting climate change. He's currently Director of the UNSW Earth and Sustainability Science Research Center and director of the UNSW CRONOS fourteen Carbon Cycle Facility. But much more impressibly, he's also a podcast. His show is called Unfucking the Future. He is called Chris turning.
Joh Like, really, I'm not gonna sing no one needs to hear that, so I'll.
Go to just I mean, yeah, you have people who do that for you on your show Unfucking Future. We were saying has some of some of the most catchy little interludes were on Fucking the Future. Blake, I thought you were gonna join me and harmonize with me.
I was just sometimes you're in awe of what you're watching, you know what I mean. You just want to sit back and enjoy it yourself. You know, life's hard enough. Let me take some of these treats.
Yes, I was also telling you guys before we started that I played that your podcast and like the word the word fuck multiple times for my eight year old by accident yesterday as I was kind of listening through getting ready to talk to you. And it was also the day that he happened to let me know that he knew the word fuck for the first time. We're doing We're doing a crossword puzzle and the clue was like what the blank and like softened version of some
softened version would be heck. And he was like, so is that? He he sit in the back seat, I'm driving and we do crossword puzzle together. He's like, would it be fun? Fuck? Do you think it's fuck?
Dad?
Like you you're turning eight in a couple of weeks, like why do you?
Why do you?
But it's like it's cute because you didn't even think it was like a bad thing to ask. He was like that they talk about that sometimes at school. Fuck is it?
Maybe?
Fuck? So he didn't realize. Yeah, I.
Astralia. It's the biggest complaint I've got. It's not the language on the show.
It's really is. How is tomorrow? By the way, we haven't we we have tomorrow. I'm cold, Sidney.
Yeah, it's just befull five o'ca Tuesday, and it's looking pretty good.
We're still here.
Good job.
Hell yeah, I can't wait.
I can't wait. It is like four a m. Free So thank you so much for joining us at such an odd time. We really appreciate it. No, no, no need.
It's scary, so good.
So good.
And Chris, you could probably already feel the jockeying. So I'm just going to put it right out there. When we announced, when we told Blake we were going to have an expert guest on, he said, I'm going to take the lead on this one, and has just been sending me past aggressive text messages all morning saying stay out of my way. So just so you know there's going to be there's.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, So what's Australia like? These are hard questions.
What's going on down there? Australia what's that?
Yeah?
What's that like? That's probably one of the most questions I've ever had.
Thank you so much for you hear that, Jack, That's why you should shut up, Jack and I should talk Your potty mouth child is fucking the future. That's what's happening. That's what this podcast should be called.
Oh my god, he's such a polluter. He is He drives a hommer at a school every day. Yeah, he's such a wonderful story. I feel my work. He is done.
Actually, you have.
Carmen Janie. We do like to ask our guests what is something from your search history? Fuck?
I'm never ready for this. Carmen, go first.
And also we've added that you can tell us something that you recently screencapped if you if you'd like.
Oh, oh god, I got a whole fulder of screenshots. Love that. Well, I'm just looking through. I got a lot of weird shit in my fucking search history. But let's not talk about that. Let's talk about do you have to pay hospital bills? That's what I searched, and that will get into my uberrated and underrated because baby, guess what, I I had the hospital bills. So that's my search history.
Do you have to pay hospital bills? Yeah? Yeah, I was.
I was resally on an episode of Behind the Bacheters where Robert was talking about that, and I was like what He's like, He's like, what are they going to do to garnish you?
Like, they can't garnish your wages.
They're not going to read because that's my puss. You come on, this is a repo the Genetic Opera.
Babe. Oh yeah, shout out Paris Hilton.
Yeah, her best role.
Her best role her wasn't that her debut too?
It was like in terms of like, yeah, she.
Was on the House of Wax.
Also, oh yeah, yeah, the Paris Die House of Wax.
You die?
She gets owned?
Yeah, all right, what's your search history, Jinny? I got it.
I've got a few. They're not as crazy. How to get a money order? The zen pouch rewards a bunch of like.
Zin pouch rewards, you don't know, jacket.
So I quit vaping a while ago, and I'm on, I'm on the zen pouches.
Of course, we've heard about them from our favorite spokesperson, Carlson.
Oh yeah, Tucker is a big Yeah, you know, say what you want about the guy. He's he's scotten good taste and oral nicotine.
Yeah, but nicotine makes you smarter, it makes you healthier.
Oh my god, we talked about this, I think like the first time you had us on, we talked about the Tucker Carlson.
Yeah that's right.
Yeah, yeah, liking saying like weed, lazy and day. But nicotine makes you a genius, gay in your skin yellow? Yeah but okay, No, this honestly should help out anyone. Well, if you're if you're using Zen's out there, if you're a daily site guys listener and you're using the Zen there's a little QR code on the back that if you scan you, dude, you can get some cool ass shit you can get like a I'm saving up to get a tragger grill.
I'm not even kidding, is it.
Yeah, Like like.
No, no, no, right, no.
I'm trying to find the like rewards because they like legitimately have a lot of cool ass shit, Like there's like a grill, there's like a fucking you can get like a drone, Like, oh shit, no, it's dope, dude, I've got I'm at seven hundred and thirty five.
Wow, how many do for the grill a lot.
Okay, there's a Blackstone grill you can get for eighty four hundred eighty four hundred and forty, so I'm like almost like an eleventh of the way there.
Oh man, all this ship is there's like it's like a it's gate car, you know, age gated for to even look at the rewards, I guess as it should.
Miles is under eighteen.
Army knife.
Yeah, and it's not branded. None of this stuff is like Swack branded.
No, that would be cool. They do have these cool they're like they're like the Zen canisters, but they're made of metal and I've honestly been thinking about cashing in for that because they're cheap and I could use them to keep my ear plugs.
On when I play. Yeah, okay, yeah.
Look they got go pros and ship damn the fucking around.
They want you, they want you chewing these ships.
They know their audience to they know their audience so well then chewing tobacco either, you know what I mean, like.
Pickleball, starter set grill, so they know your new healthier lifestyle. Yeah yeah, yeah. By the way, sorry, I was absent for a couple of minutes. I had to watch Paris Hilton get killed in House of Wax. It is a great death seat. Everybody should go watch it.
Cool.
I want a spoiling.
No, I'm not endorsing a Nicotine edition addiction. I'm just saying, like we I mean, if yeah, I will endorse smoker. Yeah yeah, Well, since I have you here, I will stay nicotine the rest of my life if it means I can get a badass offset smoker in my backyard.
Wait, but waiting for the medical research to come in to tell me whether like zin's are safe, and if they are, I'm going right back baby.
Doctors number one choice.
Wait, but Janie, what do you do once you get the tragger?
I'm gonna fucking smoke with dude. What are you talking about?
You know I'm saying, but then does it end?
I'm saying like you said, You're like, oh, if the Nicotine edition gets me a trigger, then but then once you get the trigger.
I guess I'll save up for some more catching applying, maybe an another trigger, a sister, for a start up like you like smoking the Smokehouse.
All that's done, all that's happened is that you've proved that nicotine addiction can be profitable, like that's that's.
Real, real.
Well, Philip Morris proves that as well.
But we can prove you call your barbecue place Janey Dangers Gally meat. All right, come and get it.
What's something you think is under in Francesca the.
New Shakira album. I don't know anyone's had a chance to hear it. I love it Las Mozo Joran and it's not in There's no English songs, so it's great. I do not like Shakira singing in English. There's very limited Yallo, there's.
But is there that the trademark throat, you know, sort of Shakira that's how.
She sings, but isn't there's not a lot of like lean into the yallow apparently now she's like a little embarrassed about it. But it's really good. There's there's some tracks that are like a little too heavy Riggaeton two Carol G.
I like Carol G. But I'm like, I don't need your care to be Carol G.
Right.
But then I love like some of the tracks that are just classic pop like Latino pop, pop rock, Latino or pop whatever the hell you know what I'm saying.
Yeah, it's so good.
It's a really really good album.
Okay, yeah, I like it. What's that? What was it? The album mean was like women who don't cry, women no longer cry, Women no longer cry.
And the song with Carol g is called TQG, which means and in the world, like if you're saying that to a man like the Gaelo Grande, it means like, I'm too big for you, you know, just like as a person as of this relationship, like you've got a ceiling, I'm bigger than you, but also probably my vagina.
Is you giant.
It's I'm too.
Big for you.
But I love that, like, and so to say that to Pik, which is all a little bit shade on Pique, which we all knew that p K was like not first of all, not that hot and like really Shakira Pique that long anyway, I.
Mean that's the time, you know, because Barcelona was doing so Yeah he's a Spanish defender, but yeah, like at the time, because barcel it's like at the heyday of Barcelona doing so well, it.
Was like damn, he was like no, he can't lose.
And then you heard all those stories about how like his dad was like kicking them out of the house and ship like when they were starting to separate, You're like, yo, this.
They were like trying to make me out in the basement and the dad was like, get out of here.
No.
It was like, oh, you want to divorce my son, get you and my grandkids.
Fucking beat it.
Oh okay, yeah, sir.
H yeah.
Tempo sinverte, Tempo sing verte. Look that up, listen to it.
It's good.
It's really good. Okay.
I like time without green, of course, you know, and I always.
Say that time agree.
Ye, I'm probably mispronouncing that.
I do look not metady, not seen Verde, would see day without seeing day.
Okay, time without.
Seeing you, and time without seeing you is also without seeing something. I say, all the team, all the team, Katie.
What's something you think is overrated?
Overrated?
I think giving friends advice? I think it's the worst idea. We should stop doing it.
Okay, give me, give me an example. Put me in the situation where I'm fully embracing this.
Take.
Okay.
So if somebody is like, you know, I'm seeing this guy and I just don't know what do you think I'm not dating that person. I don't know what They're like, intimately, I don't I don't fucking know. We don't have the same taste, right first off, wouldn't date a man anyway, So I can't really.
Help you there for sure. Yeah, like we're friends.
When you said I'm dating this guy with the I'll tell you right now.
Like if we're friends, then we have the same probably like mental illness, Like we have the same.
Co morbidities, emotional co morbidities.
I'm not the person, and I'll probably not like the person you're dating anyway, so I might just be like not or maybe he's nice and has like good snacks and is really friendly, then I'll say, hang on to him.
Yeah, I've been in situations like that.
I agree.
And now I'm like, now that you say it, I'm like, there are friends you have who have like the weirdest dating habits, and it does get to a point like I don't know if there's a fucking thing I can say to you that will help, because there are so many other ships that are like entangled in this that is not what do I do?
Do?
I like dump them? I'm like, I don't know if it's that's the actual solution. What's going on?
Here just generally right, like, they're not the problem right right from my PERSPECTI if you are actually the problem.
But I don't have someone you've seen every relationship.
Yeah, you've for me, You're the common denominator here.
So I don't know what else to say aside from like you do better. I don't know.
It also is very unlikable to point out people's real flaws.
It turns out like.
It turns out yeah yeah, people don't like it.
Yeah yeah yeah.
It was like, well, it just feels like, you know, like you kind of don't like being single. You know, like the second year off one, you're onto the next, and I feel like it's really those spaces in between, as Dave Matthews says, that you could really just kind of find yourself and maybe make a better decision.
Like you don't know everything about me, you don't know what's going on with me. I'm like, see this is what just let's just talk about this.
Let's not talk right, right, Yeah, And those friends that come to you for every life decision, it's like I really truly don't know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, we can talk about it.
I'll just help you decide where we're eating.
Dinner right right exactly hides that.
Yeah, it's just like talk shit and watch tv KK.
Every time you say we just should just get chicken bakes, every time can we say something else? And every time I ask you relationship advice, you always ask me if I've looked in the mirror recently.
Wait, I just to go back a little tidy bit.
I felt like I didn't want to say this because it would reveal too much about myself.
But did you guys see that ship.
On the internet where people were getting one costco dog a chicken bake. You bite off the top of the chicken bake like a cigar and then jam the hot dog.
It's no, oh no oh.
No, that is fucking wild. No. I mean, obviously I would eat it, but I feel like it was bad.
That seems like that's a that's a Bridgetoo. We don't need to We don't need to mash it up, you know what I mean? Listen, I don't like glizzies in unexpected places is not something I'm really like.
What about glizzies in a white cream and a hot season dressing?
Mm?
Wait now, actually, now that you say it like that, yeah, wait, but wouldn't it displace a ton of the filling.
If you right, it's going to be a mess.
You just got to loosen it up where oh my god, it seem like it made it seem like this was not That was not the hard part.
The structural part is not the hard part.
Don't get hung off on the on the engineering.
Right, don't.
But the filling displacement that is bound to occur.
When do you when you you insert an object with that kind of problems?
Bro?
Yeah, yeah, what do you do with the butun?
You just have a loose bun?
Then you do just have a loose fun No, that's your napkin now, or maybe that's your like bacon. Yeah, it plops out the bottom into your bun and then you eat this is this is getting so gross. But do people like it or people saying like, dude, this is the bomb, like adding hot dog to chicken.
Be I mean, I think the problem with especially I don't want to say the kids today, but with the kids today on their Internet and their apps, is you're you're so incentivized to be.
Like this is amazing.
Yeah, there's no way to know, like like you're not like you're not supposed to be out TikTok being like that's all right, I probably won't finish right right.
Yeah, it's because that's like, yeah, like like the I remember early on, like in the pandemic when people were like these like Midwestern nurses were trying like Indian food for the first time, and they're like.
Oh my god, y'all like this.
I'm sorry, this is like chicken tico must must salad.
I don't know, it's so good.
It's like, oh my god, I've never had flavors like this.
Yeah.
What about the did you see when people were drinking beer with a glizzy straw ew, Yeah.
And people are like, don't knock it till you try it. I'm like, dude, I no, no, yeah, it's like fucking there's no planet. And then you don't want like a ice cold beer soaked fucking frank to eat at the end. Oh gosh, no, no, no, no.
It's really.
I mean, look, ninety percent of the like of the food content on this is me hot take the yeah is truly it's because people cannot fucking cook, and so all of the life hack industry is like every one of those gadgets. If you know how to use a knife, you would not need this thingmore r.
Right, Like it's crazy.
Yeah, it's so weird.
And I do think genuinely it's because there's not like homec in high schools anymore.
Well, I didn't even have homech in high school. I barely did. Did they have? Yeah, it was.
Phased out by the other none.
Yeah, wow, because it's because it's women's work.
And and truly it was like I was like, oh, this is the only class.
That taught me something useful in high school.
Like you need to get in that wood shot man around the word.
Yeah, I'm gonna be making a lot of fucking benches in my life.
I'm gonna be biting the end off a chicken bake and fucking tossing in a glizz All right, let's take a break and take an an acid tablet just from thinking about that, and we'll be right back after this.
And we're back.
So, Chris, you've been studying this for thirty years, kind of the meat of the period where it's gone from being a fringe subject on people's minds to a subject that's on people's minds and that everyone agrees should be like the biggest story it feels like, But how has like you talked about just like early days of climate in your career versus today, Like what about that contrast makes you hopeful or otherwise.
Yeah, Now we've known for such a long time, you know, it's amazing. Back in the eighteen fifties, units Foot was American and she was a very early scientist area who basically discovered the greenhouse effecting and climate change.
Didn't call the.
Crisis or change at the time, but she realized actually pumping here to carbon darkxide in the atmosphere causes heating. So we've known about it since the eighteen fifties, and so by the time, you know, in the nineteen eighties or so, we're pretty clear, you know, of that use of dirty energy has created this heat trapping pollution and it's it's basically adding a blanket around the Earth and
is causing irreversible heating. So we've known that since the eighties, and some companies, which fossil fuel companies like x On Mobile I actually had some of the best scientists working in it in the seventies and they knew back then.
So it's been a bit of a frustration.
But at the same time, you're sort of you're always trying to engage with people to say, look, this is what the science is showing us, and this is looking really bad, and what we going to do about it, and if we move quite quickly it would be.
A relatively easier transition.
But now we are here, we are in the twenty twenties having the same conversation. My kids are now older than when I was first active in this area, and where we're still trying to get carbon ducts and other greenhouse gas emissions down, you know, a pollution out of the air. So it's been frustrating, but at the same time, I think as a far greater engagement this last couple of years, particularly for those of us in the Norman hemisphere and the Western world are becoming even more aware
of it. So I think there's a real energy and people want to do something. And that was really the motivation behind the show, to be honest, because as a climate scientists, most people, I mean I still get for crazy emails and I no doubt'll get a hoload more after this service call.
But it was one of those things where.
That's audience man, and we're sorrys nest here, and it's just one of the most things where most people will ask me, what can I do.
I think that's the problem we've often had, is that here's a science. Now someone else go and sort it out. What we're trying to do as scientists is actually work with government, public, actually industry, business.
Let's get this.
These ideas deployed and they are happening. It is super super positive just how much we're seeing these technologies deploy more and more renewable energy sources.
Around the world.
It's not just in the West, so you know, there's a lot of good news out there, but it's also hearing for people what they can do individually.
That's the idea we've talked before about on the show, about how something you just made reference to, like the excellent knowing about this, like doing some of the most advanced research into climate change decades before I think most people even knew it was the thing, Like they were lying about it before we even knew there wasn't it to lie about. And so I feel like it's such
a clear villain like origin story. I just wonder, like how you think about Like one of the things I like about your podcast, like a lot of the a lot of the times when I'm hearing these stories, like hearing the x on mobile story, and you know, them discovering that there's a problem and then being like, so how do we how do we frame this from a marketing perspective? You know, we don't get names. We get big corporations, and then those are hard to like kind
of grab on to. But there's a couple real villains on your podcast like Fred Singer. Ah, Yes, a piece of work. I will say thank you for saving.
Yeah, for those amazingly completely outrageous characters who are out there pushing this miss information disinformation basically the creating confusion, and the whole thing has been I mean, this is a classic thing that you and you can see it on the whole lot of public debate. If you really want to just cause confusion, you just say things aren't really that certain?
How threaded are you?
You know?
We know, we know that if you didn't have carbon ducks on the atmosphere and other green ass gases the planet, we go about, mind, that's fifty degrees and that.
Chris, isn't it better than that?
I think that sounds.
Cold to me.
It sounds a little chilly.
A little bit is good, right, I think we all agree a little bits good. And the simple thing is you add more to the atmosphere, more pollution, ill warm
things up, and then he thinks up. But when there's some of these characters like Fred Seeinger, this was back in the eighties, you know, creating these arguments for some of the best known scientists actually in the space and then actually working with them towards the end of their lives and basically casting down on their work just introduces that certainty with the public that oh, maybe even the experts aren't sure, just when you've got this real head
of steam that actually they're going to make a difference.
I mean, X on Mobil.
One of my favorite things that I've been watching online at the moment is a great Adam McKay, the director. It's just incredibly funny, clever matt. Adam McKay did the Netflix movie Don't Look Up. He started a new sort of satirical comedy channel called Yellow Dots Studios, and with Rain Wilson, they've done this spoof on Game of Thrones
called a Tale of Fire and Ice. And you know it's the scene where they drag out the undead in a box, you know, in front of all the main characters John Snow and all the others, and instead of the undead is Rain Wilson dressed up as a scientist, all chained up, and this fantastic thing about the House of X on mobile as being the enemy. And if people haven't watched it's on YouTube. It's absolutely brilliant, absolutely brilliant.
But is that. Yeah, there's some great villains in this story.
And you know, when he's teaching about climate chain. One of the first things I used to show was actually shared the students of this report back from the seventies. There's lots of them been released since or being leaked, and it shows back in the seventies, some of the best scientists are pretty much on the money back in the nineteen seventies, and seeing students get so cross, so cross, and basically when I was born, they knew, they knew,
and you it's outrageous, absolute outrageous. And they still to come around sort of claiming, oh, it's too expensive now, we need to stick with fossil fuel, that's the future. Yeah, it's just incredible. They's still being given their time. Some of these characters.
Fred Singer, by the way, for listeners, we actually recently did a story about lunchables. The public health disaster that is Oscar Myers started as Oscar Myers, but it's like a craft food prepackaged lunch that was given to us by craft food once the tobacco industry took for the food industry, and like they were like, all right, one thing, we know how to get people addicted in a way
that will make us money and kill them. Like that's and so I just bring it up here because fred Singer's background thing that prepared him to be like one of the fossil fuel industries, like go to people for so in confusion. His background was so in confusion about the health effects of smoking. Yeah, it's so wild that that was just this like original sin where all these professional liars were like watching each other being like, hey, we should draft that guy. Look at the talent on
that ad campaign. I mean he has you know, he can shoot, he can dribble. Exactly. You just need people, yeah exactly.
But like because you were taught, I was listening to your episode. I think it was the Blue Carbon episode. Oh yes, Chris, and it was if we're talking about like making this like a cinematic thing where we have
the villains. The villains seem like very clearly defined, where it's almost like tragically sad and sweet that the the protagonists, the people, the heroes of the story can actually be from that environment, like the ocean or actually natural resources, which is the things that we're actively destroying are the things that can actually help us as well, which is so you know, like kind of sad but kind of
sweet also. But yeah, I thought that was a really really interesting episode where I've always thought, oh, it's like we need to do this. We need like human beings need to reverse so many of our habits, which we do. And also we you know, your guest was saying, we can't do it without help from the environment. Also, that's the environment.
That's that's the amazing San Juan who's in Conservation International, and yeah, the whole idea of blue carbon is, yeah, basically using the oceans and and he has this lovely quote he says, look, if I was king of the world for just one day, I protect the mangrove forests, which of these incredible trees that live on the coastal plains, and they pumped down so much carbon into out of the atmosphere into the ground there. I mean, it's it's
multiple times more than tropical rainfall. These things are huge, and as you say, we go around clearing them and under the guys that you get a nice view. It's just I'm clear them for a whole load of problems results as a result.
I'm a proponent personally of condos, condos with good views of mango. Yeah, I'm so. I mean, I guess you could convince me otherwise, but that's just where I'm at. We just put him in the mangroves, right, Yeah, how are we going to appreciate the mangroves if we don't have giant condos there? Thank you for the question, John, problem solved.
I think a really important thing with with with something like as big and there's an enormous as climate crisis is you could go really dark, really quickly. You could go and there's a huge amount of challenges, massive But the problem is that if you just give that message of despair, nothing will happen. You know, we need to get people motivated, and there's a lot of great stuff,
as you say, but it's happening. Putting aside to condos, there's a lot of really good things that are happening, So maybe we're talk about the.
Good stuff that are happening in the world of condos. On another episode, you can go ahead with your contemporary housing.
And you're gotta You're gonna get people hope and and actually showing which way we can actually make a big difference.
And I think left that's motivating.
Right, Yeah, your podcast does that, which I like, you know, it's yeah, another reason why I connect with it.
Yes, you your podcast. Also, you know you have the Adam McKay episode about storytelling just again, and I think your instinct of like telling your students from day one like they have been lying to us all along, Like it does help when I hear the facts about okay, like here are the things you can do. You can like change your diet, you know which I'm joking, Like, I agree, there are things that we can all do
to help. But at the same time, the vast, vast majority of this damage has been caused by these companies, like these villains. I feel like there's something kind of focusing and simplifying about that that I wish was a little bit more. I don't know, maybe Adam McKay is gonna make like the great film about just like the history of this. But I do feel like that we had it. We had the The Insider about the tobacco
industry that was like an Academy Award winning film. I'm looking forward to the genre of movies to come about. They're like name names, like any podcast talks about. So I've probably said I don't know the phrase climate change a couple times at least since we started recording this episode. That phrase was invented by Republicans to downplay the problem of at like climate heating, like they change. They changed
the word from global warming to climate change. Like Frank Luntz, whose name I recognized from being like a Republican polster, was that was like his brain child. He was like, what if we just we just say climate change. You know, we're acknowledging that it's changing. Okay, don't I can see you getting mad. We're saying we admit it's changing for better or worse. Who's to say, you know it's changing. That's enough, Like that's the first step. We've admitted that.
And this is a negotiation, like is kind of the energy that it has and they fucking won. Like when you search New York Times dot com results for like global warming sixty six point six, Global heating like only one hundred. Total global warming is sixty six thousand, climate change is ninety seven thousand. It's like the phrase that won, and it's just what Republicans wanted to make it seem less scary when they were talking about it, and they again,
it's just a I don't want to feel hopeless. At the same time, I do want to acknowledge that we are the victim of a vast, long term, and highly successful campaign to lie to us about something before we even knew there was something to be lied to about. That is like very sophisticated, and I don't know, it just like makes it. It's like clarifying to me that, like, yeah, okay, there's this. We're in a battle with a lot of different people who are putting a lot of different thought
into it. We are slowly making progress in that battle in a bunch of ways that we'll soon talk about. But I just wanted to kind of hear your thoughts on that, because I was certainly a victim of calling it climate change. I think I think that's kind of what I referred to it as until your show told me I shouldn't.
Be Oh that's beautify. I'll define to have you on the show next time.
But yeah, you're look, I mean it's the broken clocks right twice a day, he's not Yah, his kids toss and left and right.
Tough crowd, right right, Yeah, it's uh, it's one of those things where and change is good.
Right, So the perception is, oh, oh it's change, okay.
And actually that recognition that change isn't good in this case, and that actually a more there's a bigger issue. I mean, some people aren't comfortable with crisis. They're like calling it out of the same way people have talked about global boiling. But that's another level up again. But you know, trying to get rid of global warming to global heating, climate crisis, call it what it is. You know, we've got a major,
major problem here, and it's now in our face. This isn't something that's going to happen in twenty plus years or whatever. Is happening now and we've got to really turn things around. And basically, all this procrastination and delaying is going to cost us dearly, not just economically but personally, and people are dying as a result. So it's an enormous challenge moving forward. But you know, misinformation, disinformation, that is a big problem we've got now and a huge challenge.
All this stuff is out there and people start isolating themselves, and I think that's probably one of the bigger challenges moving forward really is that actually they get into their own world and they start thinking that, oh, they've got their world's view sorted, and they find these bits of information and basically say, oh, it's not a problem, and they just hone in off.
That is comforting, right.
Right, And I think one of the things where it started to see a lot more now is actually getting out there as a community, getting to know your neighbors, working with people, realizing you're not on your right And I mean, the show is very much about what you can do, and that's not just individually, if that's collectively. And actually there's an awful lot of people out there who really want to do things and actually make a change.
But you are right, you know, at the same time, you're very aware that there's this a whole society is built around, and that's premise.
Here.
If you want fossil fuel.
Here is his petrol, his gas, whatever you want coal, it's all there and there's nothing to see here because it's just one part of the mix and things have changed before and that's not true anymore. You know, everyone knows, you know, the consensuses. We've got to we've got to existential threat, to be honest, and now we've got to sow it down.
Yeah yeah, I mean one of what we'll get into the lawsuit in Montana, but one of the lead lawyers who you have on just kind of breaks it down in this way that was very clean for me. It was like, people don't need fossil fuels, like people need a way to heat their homes and get to work, which, like the the thing standing in our way is not our need for fossil fuels, it's the current structures of power and wealth creation that have been built up around fossil fuels kind of protecting themselves.
It's the default, Like that's the defaults. I'm going to go get gas. It's kind of similar with the vegan conversation we were having earlier, where you have to say I need to go to a vegan restaurant or a restaurant with like not just a restaurant, because a restaurant that default of restaurants. Is that, Oh, it's going to be primarily like meat based, so that is really yeah, that's a really good point.
Yeah.
But all right, so let's take a break. We'll come back. We'll talk about some of the solutions that you guys talk about in your show.
We'll be right back and we'll be right back.
Thank you, Blake, and we will be right back.
Yeah, and we're back.
We're back.
We're back. Holy shit, we're back.
Where where was the.
Seriously I slept through that whole break, Sorry, Miles, just kidding. Miles is micro napping for like three seconds in between every time I start talking, his head just goes down. And uh yeah, how was that Trump story for you? By the way, was that different talking about Trump?
Yeah?
Yeah, we did talk about Trump. Yeah yeah, that dude.
So you disagree with the story about Trump like feeding like millions of homeless people and wells in Africa, I'm for that.
I mean, yes, guy looks.
Like a the orange one.
All right.
Let's talky about somebody. Somebody who's split like kind of shares complexion with Donald Trump, and that is Dog the bounty hunter and they're both hair. Yeah for sure?
Is that a wig?
They both could be. They both have hair that looks like it was designed to like launch a thousand Halloween wigs.
Yeah yes, but yeah, very unseious person.
Jesse Waters had Dwayne Dog Chapman on, so the racist with skin as soft as welder's gloves could promote his new book. And despite this being like a promo, stop, Waters fucking decided. He's like, you know what, man, I know you got a book. Let's let's just get into man, what about these motherfucking immigrants? And that led to an interesting exchange of ideas between the two. And by that, I mean I don't here's Dog the bounty hunter talking about immigration.
Oh lord, hell yeah, go get get it together.
You go.
When you approach these people.
Whether they're migrants or outlaws, Yes, sir, this.
Is what we're going to when you approach these people, whether they're migrants, are just already we're starting off on the wrong same Dith. Yeah, you're going to be looking at Do you have any advice for Donald Trump if he assumes office again?
Is he going to make you deportations?
Are?
I would like a job like that. And it doesn't matter who you are, what what nationality, what tribe you belong to. If you're a law breaker and you're in this country illegal and you were booted from another country because you were a felon and told to go to America, that's where we're going to start, is the high priority, the top of the eschalot, and they are going back and or they're going to jail. When I first started bounty hunting forty five years ago, there were two bounty hunters.
Today there's sixty five hundred. You have theirs new laws. You can't be convicted of felony in the last ten years. We use non lethal weapons that'll drop a mule.
Ready, what kind of read would you use?
Well, the newest one they've got is the new pepper ball gun, and it's designed to spin. The body does not enter if you unless you I had to take a forty hour course. You cannot shoot above the neck or it would kill them. So pop pop, and they're down.
That's it.
What you want to do is put the person down, to cuff them and then go from there.
Right, So, I, for one, don't think it's good to have a nation full of like little Kyle written houses, no running around like just fucking shooting like bean bags at like Mexican families and stuff.
That will take their head off if you had them above that, if you.
Don't have a forty hour training course.
I also, I just got to say real quick, I have not thought about Dog the Bounty Hunter for a solid decade since Park episode.
Yeah yeah, or since he got canceled screaming like about his son's black girlfriend.
He was like, Oh, you really like using the N word, don't you.
Dude, I don't even remember that. That's that's how his show got canceled because like this like voicemail leaked and they're like, oh boy, it's like come on, y'all didn't see this man's face. And they're like, oh, no, he don't use the N word. No. Not same for like Paladine, he's like, yeah, she probably is racist.
Yeah.
Yeah, there's a few phrases that they had to be like, you know what, you actually can't say that, Paul, Yeah, it's not I know it may be a colloquialism to you, but we don't.
We can't do that.
But I like, I was like, you can't be a bounty hunter if you've committed a felony in the last ten years, Because this dude he was convicted of third degree murder in nineteen seventy six when he was Yeah, he was the.
Get away bounty Hunting Too Hard Miles.
Getaway driver during what he called a drug deal gone bad. But it sounds like a robbery gone bad.
You know, I'm not gonna like fact check his like statements about like that there are sixty five hundred boundary hunters, but I'll be honest, I kind of believe it, Like I kind of believed that, like because of him, the like right wing in this country has become like so like I don't know, like I just have to say mentioned Kyle Rittenhouse again, Like it's all like people with like mentalities like that where they've been like so like programs like hate like so many other people and not
really have even like a sort of like a materialistic reason why to right.
But then you're doing it.
You're doing it in service of like this oppressive system of bonding out of prison or out of jail and shit like that, Like you're reinforcing that debt to be Like guess what, one of these people will find you with a gun that's non lethal unless they shoot you in the neck and above, and then it will kill you.
Also, I do think it's funny, Like I don't know, like imagine like one of these freaks, like because he says like, yeah, if you're like a murderer who's killed like forty seven times and you got kicked out of your country for killing so much, and then they're like are you talking like look like if we're talking about like like fucking cartel hitman, yeah, I probably don't want them walk in the streets either.
But like, what the fuck are you?
What is some fucking like tumbleweed from like Nebraska who like is like I'm gonna become a bounty hunter. He's gonna go up to like a cartel guy and they will torture him in a storage unit four years like he will. Yeah, you will instantly wake up in like the hostel room, like it's over.
The other thing I always think about with him is like he always claims to be Native American, you know, like he wears feathers in his hair and shit like that. He said he could use the N word because I'm an Apache was what he said, And you're like, that's job. But like many especially in like the Native American community,
pretty dubious about that fact. Because he's so consistent about what tribe he says he belongs to, and most people can't find anything that suggests that his mother, who he claims is Native American, isn't just a normal like every regular, regular white person, and some people who have supposedly looked into it's not really it's it's hard to say like this is these are the facts and truth, but they say maybe it happened because in her past she said
she had spent time on a reservation and then just started difference.
Yeah I'm Native American, I'm Native American.
Yeah, I haven't heard one of those like, uh yeah, I'm ten percent Cherokee like kind of white people.
In a while, I thought that was dying out. So Elizabeth Warren made that tough for sure.
Yeah, I was gonna say, sare you know right? But then he said now shares Armenian.
Recently, he said, quote, I've always had a pretty distinguishable look. Hell makes me easy to identify in a lineup. And you're like what because you're what because you claim to be a third or half or whatever kind of background you're trying to anyway, so that man, uh yeah, he's hawking some kind of book and I think he's onto his seventh wife now, and he just I think in the last few years he found out he had a
thirteenth child that he didn't know about. Oh my god, who was like a full grown adult by the time they met. So yeah, he's he's doing all right, he's doing and his oldest son, I think is in a jail for a hate crime, so the family is killing.
Yeah.
He really does look like he's wearing a Doug Bounty Hunter like Halloween costume that's like out of the box, like it does, like not a very good one, you know.
Yeah, Yeah, it's a hard it's a hard look to rock, like a leather shirt and like wearing wrap around sunglasses like all the time. I mean, I'll say he's done a good job of matching his extensions to his natural hair color because.
Usually real brass.
It's got that kind of like saggy both talks like looks.
This was this was once all tight and improvable, all right. And finally Germany has passed a landmark trans rights law after legalizing weed. Earlier in the month, we got another w for Germany. Wow, I can't remember when. I mean, they're nailing it a plus No, but they did become the latest country to pass legislation making it easier for transgender, intersex, and non binary people to change their name and gender
in official records. It's the so called self Determination law, and they'd been promising it since twenty twenty one.
Yeah, because the process before this is like you needed like a pathology, like you need to go through a pathologizing process for for like an expert to figure out if it was like they're like, well, according to me, after I've asked them all kinds of weird questions, some completely irrelevant about asking about their childhoods or this or that, like they are approved to change their name or gender on like official government documents.
So they've they've they've taken they've done away.
With that which you know apparently has been going on for many many years. Four decades old.
Yeah, four decades old was the law before this.
Yeah, I mean that's still the way it is here in Georgia, right, you know, and in a lot of places. So I'm happy to see it changing across the world. But it sounds I mean it okay, obviously this is something that was promised in twenty twenty one, but is this do we think that this is like a pr spin for Germany and maybe again to kind of distract from their.
Real I'm not willing to hand it to Germany for a while.
Yeah.
Yeah, Like I said, I'm like, like the only news that I've seen out of Germany lately is them like just basically doing like this weird like neo form of like notification but like in the name of like Israel and I Germany is a very like weird, fucked up country that I do not fully like understand all of the uh. I don't know, I'm not like a history major or anything like that, but like it it is
very strange. You can see it in a lot of their like cultural like stuff, Like there's a lot of like guilt and there's a lot of like I could definitely see them like just look, I mean there's a very you see this in America too, where like nothing like take like the Black Lives Matter like movement, like you know, like that was like a huge, huge thing and what really happened, you know, Uh, Cleveland is voiced by a black person now, like you know, like like
the only things that get changed are like minor social things that you can move move the needle on a system.
Yeah.
Yeah, so like that's why, Like, I mean, it's true because there's also there was that thing too where for a while they were like in Germany racism doesn't exist.
They're like, oh, yeah, can we see the data on that. They're like, oh, we don't have data on that. Yeah, well okay, so that I don't know if you can quite claim that. W But yeah, at the same time, right there was a prop house, there's a meeting of like the Palestinian Congress, and all these people were coming in activists and they were they were stopping people from entering the country, and then when the event happened, like
the police came in and broke it up. So yeah, it's definitely like there there's a there's so many things. It's like the US too, where you can you can point to these sort of narrow kind of victories. But even with the Supreme Court yesterday, they also they also kept on the like basically said, yeah, Idaho is free to quote protect the children.
Or whatever by banning gender affirming care for you.
So it's you know, it's always like everything is kind of where we put the focus. But yeah, to your point, Janey, it's like, what the systemic stuff?
Yeah, yeah, they do the one for you, one for us, and the one for us is always like you know, yeah, not that significant and doesn't actually yeah yeah, just.
Like oh well we put we have a rainbow flag in the Capitol building now or something.
Right, but we're legally codifying discrimination.
Yeah, you can change your name for when we sign you up for the like Hunger games in America where you're where you're forced into the most dangerous game battle royale conscription rights. You can pick your own pronouns for that.
Part of a deal with NBC. Yeah, just won't even be on TV. It'll be on Peacock.
It's the new mister Beast video. We hunted people.
The amount of times that like Twitter is just shoving that ship down my throat. Beast bullshit, mister Beast, bullshit, What is going on with this? It's like, uh, I've created a thousand wells in Africa, Yeah all the time. Like the one before that was like I locked a thousand people into a grocery store to see how long they could survive, and then the next one like maybe did he like get bad pr for that previous one. So it's like I made a thousand wells in Africa.
He does. It's sort of what you just said, the one for you, one for me.
Yeah, exactly.
He does like little games and then he does ones that are just like like charitable.
Right, He's like, I bought everybody in Walmart everything they wanted.
Yeah, hot take here that you might not expect coming from me, but I don't. I kind of like mister I think he made. I think if you're going to be like, if you're going to be a rich person with like the GDP of like a small country in Central America, I think the least evil thing you can do is just make silly little games on YouTube and stuff.
I don't know, like building well, yeah.
The videos of like the one of like the I made a hundred different countries, like compete like stuff like that. It's fun. It's just fun little videos. I don't know, Like I feel like that's as far as like uber uber uber wealthy people go, like I think, if you're just making little games and like videos and stuff, you know, and it's kind of fun.
And.
They want to be mister Beast. They want to be somebody who like gives out like free Lasik, like free cochlear implants to they want to be it's kind of cute, you know.
So they want to have their own they want to have their trans friend that they can you know, bury people alive with. Like that's what we all want, you know.
I liked the one where he handcuffed that guy to a pipe and was like, if you want to leave, you have to saw your own arm off.
Yeah.
I just kind of but like, you know, there's a cynicism to it too, because it's like this of like philanthropy via click ast, you know where it's like.
Is it coming from a good place too?
But then I guess at the end of the day, if you're zooming out, well, no one's I've like was just doing a search.
I'm like, did he actually build the wells?
And I don't see anything saying that like that did not happen, so you know it's no.
I totally agree. I think there was a big thing about the one with the where he got like blinds kids like bought them all like surgery to like like yeah, not restoring surgery something. Yeah. Look, I don't I don't know. I might be wrong on this, but I don't think the problem is like him doing that. I think that's fine.
Like I agree about the Senate the cynical nature of it, but I think that the main kind of like takeaway is like there's a surgery that makes kids not blind, and you don't just give it to kids, Like it takes this fucking asshole with a YouTube channel to do it. That's fucking crazy.
Like I think I do cringe though when I see those people go up to like street vendors and like they're just like, hey, I want to give you this money. And then they look the camera and they're like, hey, look at your boy.
Did you know what I mean?
Yeah, and so it yeah, because the video's over give it back Mania, Yeah yeah, no, right, because I mean like at the at the end of the day, you know, it's just like when you hear those quote unquote feel good stories about like how like a teacher was on a Southwest flight and the person they were sitting next to overheard that they were struggling to get materials for their class, so they anonymously donated whatever, and you're like, oh my gosh.
It's like a field stories for systemic problems. Yeah, the story is.
Actually about how little we're funding our public education or the story is about how little access to clean water people have, and it's like everyone's like yeah, so, but I get it too, Like, you know, I've seen some of the stunts that he's pulling. I'm like, oh shit, man, you can't do that with a regular YouTube channel, like you need you need real money.
But I think that's what what's interesting too.
All those videos I've read though, too, like are sort of built on the backs of all these brands deals that he does prior to him. Yeah, it's not a lot of times it might not be coming out of his pocket, but anyway, this is these are the complexities of our modern media.
Mister Beast buried one hundred people brought to you by loads.
To somebody needed to fill the space that Oprah left behind.
Yeah yeah, remember that though you get a car thing and everyone was like yo, but the taxes they were on the hook for, they were.
Yeah about like an evil Oprah where she's like everyone look under your seat and everyone like looks and there like ow and she's like you found a use needle.
Email from the nineties about going to a movie theater and it's like welcome to Welcome to the world of bloodborne illness.
Is the ball bound the ball pit. My grandma wouldnt let me go on the ball pit because the ball pit has put.
Yeah that's so funny, Like yeah, what there's a thirty year old like heroin attic in the bullpen and everyone's like, yeah, that's normal, Like yeah.
Look into your chair, that's your daughter, right, Oh she's safe for now. Damn Oprah, amazing, I want to Oprah. Yeah, all right, that's gonna do it. For this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review the show if you like, the show means the world de Miles. He he needs your validation, folks. I hope you're having a great weekend and I will talk to you Monday.
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