Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of the Weekly Zeitgeist. These are some of our favorite segments from this week, all edited together into one NonStop infotainment laugh stravaganza. Yeah, so, without further ado, here is the Weekly Zeitgeist, Sophia. We do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history?
Okay, so I have recently gone insane, and thank you so much Smith. I've been working so hard. It's really just it's just an honor to be nominated.
And then right, yeah, truly on your first try.
This is how you know I'm insane. Okay. I went from not caring or liking Taylor Swift at all to now joining a reddit called galer where I have seen multiple slide show presentations that prove that Taylor Swift was gay with Carly Kloss and others that proved that she was also gay with Diana Agron from Glee and also this other model from Britain named Lily. They are all just the same white woman. She's just fucking herself over
and over again. It's just like kind of fascinating. And now like, this is how you know I've gone insane, Because if you look at that search history, you will probably think I am seventeen maybe I don't know, and.
You're shipping shipping Taylor with all these models.
I like, I don't care that. It's like I don't have a vested interest in the relationships, right, I care about it in the same way that if, like you found out that, like I don't know, Obama and Biden were lovers, you were like, Okay, I need to know a little bit more about how the fuck this works, Like how did you pull this off?
When did they get together? I need to all of the questions.
Yeah, it's like, well, how do you do that and have full time boyfriends? Like this is a lot of like like covering being gay, Like how how are you pulling it off? So anyway, just if you want to lose your goddamn mind, go down that rabbit hole.
Are these slide shows like particularly compelling or they're just like look at all these images that if you have your confirmation bias set to galer, then yes.
And yes, But also some of the stuff is like, wow, that is very gay. I don't know that I should be out here trying to decide whether Taylor is gay or not. But the whole reddit is run by other gay people who are just obsessed with the idea that like, she's queer and her music is queer, and she's been telling us and showing us and we're just like not getting it. So as a cultural study, it is the
most fascinating thing. And to answer just I show a question, some of them are like they're like a little thumbprint. They're like a very individual snapshot of a person's mind. Right, it's like all confirmation bias obviously, Yeah, but you're also watching them interr pret song lyrics where you're like, oh, no, that just means any and you want it to me. That is a very vague lyric like no, it refers to the one time that Carly bought a gold dress.
It was this day, here's the receipt. The song that says jeans and Nikes. Carly was a Nike spokesperson in twenty sixteen. You understand how deep.
These women go. I love that you You also have facts now that like you know these models like endorsement.
I shouldn't know any of this. That is what's so insane. I shouldn't know any of it. I shouldn't be thinking about it. It is like an addiction, Like I think assume what people feel like when they gamble, just like a rush.
Yeah, it's like.
Insane, and then it doesn't make any sense, but you're like, let's keep doing it. Yeah, anyway, the gay the subreddit do it.
She kind of has to be everything to everyone right, right, and so like by keeping things that perfectly vague, yeah, it kind of creates this thing where she can like break all the box office records when she lets people go watch a concert that they can also watch in person.
Yes, but I also just enjoy the fact that, like she's just if she is gay, she's only gay for exact copies of herself, which I think is a fascinating category. It's like, no, she's not clear, she's queer for Taylor, right, Like I just want to find mirror images of myself too. Fuck, that is so wild.
Wasn't that Liberaci's thing? Like didn't he have a lover who he gave plastic surgery to look more like Liberaci?
Oh?
Wow, yes that is true.
Yeah you said that's so unequivocally, Yes, that is true.
Well, because yeah, I mean people bring that up a lot as like a Libaraci thing. They're like, did you know because it's so weird.
I wonder if, like, I think it's an interesting exercise just for anyone with an imagination to try and make anything true about Taylor Swift, like using the same methodology. We're like you Actually, if you think about it, all of her lyrics are steeped in like black panther ideology.
There's someone right now making that slideshow right right right, like foresure, there's a Swift contingency that's like, you don't understand what being a black panther is until you listen to Red Taylor's version, like.
Red is actually an anthem for the Crip gang despite it being called Red. And here in this thread, I will, I will.
You've seen the theory that her dad is the Zodiac killer, right, and she's trying to reveal that through her lyrics. I just made that up, But.
That is again probably being built right now. Right as you said it, people were like, this is true, Sady.
What's something you think is overrated?
So I think you know, when you go to the like basically the US Border patrol, the fear of US Border patrol, I think that's overrated because I was like, it's my first time coming to America and people were like, oh, this white guy got sent back. He the border patrol guy asked him three times, what are you doing here?
What are you doing here?
And the third time he must have said something funny, and they sent him back. So I was like, oh my god, they're not gonna let me in and they're gonna send me back. And this is what happened. The guy basically was like, did you travel alone? And I was like yeah, unfortunately, I'm on my I'm single. And he was like how long you here for us had two months? And he was like, oh, you here to get some dick.
I was like what wa Yeah.
Basically we just start laughing. I had a whole suitcase full of my book sex Well. I'm like, oh no, please, don't search my suitcase. And he was just like, welcome to America.
Yeah, wow, get it in. Yeah, boom boom, stamped your ship af you go.
I was gone.
I was I was going to do anything I had to do to get in, to be honest, whatever he wanted.
So, I mean that sounded like he was opening the door to that conversation. He's like, oh, is your numbering your passport? Let me see that real quick. Let me get that whatsappen.
But the thing is before me, I was sweating in the lines. Before me, there was this like European. She didn't look British, but she was a white blonde girl. He took her to the room and then came back to the table so she had some further questioning. So I was like, that's a white girl. I was like, I'm in trouble, and we just start laughing. It was I was just so happy the way that worked out.
Yeah. Yeah, I don't, I don't. I can't imagine. I mean, like I feel like I was a very New York in her eye show too, Like if someone in that capacity goes, oh so you hear from Dick like.
That accommodating, right, yeah yeah, oh yeah, yeah.
I'm glad he knew the audience rather than like saying that to someone who maybe.
I just love how he sensed desperation, you know what I mean, Like he didn't know me, he must have just seen my but he was like, why are you moving around in the in the queue. I was worried about him. He must have thought I was like just ready to pounce right right.
He was like asking, why were you were like giving a little squirm.
What was Yeah.
He was like, oh you're you're moving from side to side, and I was like, I just be quiet because I just I'm not going to argue with no one who's got authority over me.
Like it's just not going to happen.
Right right, right, right right. You're like, oh, so you're a doctor. Now You're like you're not going to come back with that response, like, yeah.
I don't know what I said. I must have said something back to him. I said, oh, you're no, this is what I said the castlicer. I mustaid, Oh, you're very observant.
There, you I mean, yeah, he is.
He kind of landed on the on the right question, right, Yeah, so wait, maybe like there are some people work in the US Border Patrol who are like born for this, Like I'm.
Just very observant and.
I can read people I know, and that's why super.
Right, yeah, right exactly. The nervous person in line whisper.
Right while you're here, So two months are you are you? Are you out there? You're gonna be you be hitting the app so you're gonna you staying open, you're looking for love. You just kind of you know you're here if someone happens, it happens, you're not how you're really looking for.
Someone told me actually when I was in England because I'm trying to like find an agent or whatever not, and they were like, oh, you should just join all the apps, like because you'll meet the best people like that. She wasn't even really strictly talking about dating. But I'm very anti app. I just I just I don't like it. I like real life kind of stuff. So love would be great, Dick would be really good.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, get you. Yeah, we need to get you to like an art opening, like a gallery opening, you know what I mean, find some find some wavy.
Listen these guys on the streets collecting cans.
Yeah yeah, You're like, are you willing and able? Then?
No, I love them. I pasted out. You know, I'm gonna lie.
I love them?
Are not willing and they're not able?
Yeah?
Like Myles, I like that you went with art opening, Like are you are you picturing Thomas Crown Affair? What do we picturing?
Now?
Just thinking like people who are kind of chill, you know, like because you never know what you get in a club, you know, so I feel like.
You know, tell me. You can't get in the club, so I can watch out for it.
But yeah, I feel like side, you got a little bit of class tour, you know, so probably you could do with something a little bit elevated, you know what I mean, not just some scrub. But yeah, but again, I don't know.
I don't mean I'm like classy too.
I'm yeah, right, my final dress at the library.
Looking for something? All right, what is Marcella? What is something that you think is overrated? You know?
I couldn't think of something maybe because I.
Got a little high.
But yeah, you got a little high, A little high this time, ladies and gentlemen, introducing a little bit high Marcella for the first time. She's never been a little bit.
High on our podcast, on anyone's podcast. Okay, I trust you, guys.
Yeah, I saw that.
I thought there was not going to be a guest host. I was like, you know what, I can get a little high. I read the comments. People get mad and I'm so mean to Jack and I know, and I'm a little high. I'm a little more.
I like that Jackie's fun. It's all good.
I love how I loved Jack's liked you nice to Marcelo when she's mean to me. Guys, it's okay, Yeah, I mean a lot of And you know what's funny is a lot of guys don't understand it too. There's a comic who's like, has a little crush on me, and I'm just very mean to him. Yeah, and I really give it to him more because i know he really enjoys it, and I'm waiting for him. I'm waiting for him to be like, Marcella, why are you so mean? And I can't wait to be like, stop asking me
why I'm so mean? And ask yourself why you like it?
You bitch.
Oh that's going to be a moment when he when I have that exchange. I wait, I know it's gonna happen one day because this is such a mean Why do you like it?
You?
Yeah, that's the real question. What's your mom do to you?
Bro?
That's what I want to know.
What didn't you do?
You little pain?
Hug?
So yeah, I'm a.
Little high, So I'm a little I'm a little more fun and a little more rambling.
But it'll be.
Worth it, guys. So like I just showed you, but over under it, I couldn't think of something. But so I decided to google things like what did people find overrated?
Because I was like, there you go.
This is because it's all it's all opinion. So the top three things in the first three articles. The number one thing one bitch wrote bacon overrated. It's overrated. Okay, so I already know the bitch has no taste.
Like, I also feel like you're about to out a bunch of our former guests because they're like, what if you well, what if you like named a bunch of like other people overrated and underrated, and they were just like googling, like, I don't have opinions are overrated.
That's probably true to think about that. You're totally right. But bacon, come on, yeah, it's simple meat. It's so good.
I think we've said this in the in the past. We're like, it's properly rated. I get like, ten years ago, we were doing too much.
It was o debates, overrated by some people who are not worth paying attention to. Nobody who are bacon people? Yeah, but like who gives a fuck about them? Like let them have their weird little thing.
Yeah, go to the like as they say, it's like the fucking heart attack cafe or whatever the fuck it's called, where like everything is bacon, Like I get it, we get it, but like you don't, don't you gotta hate on it?
Yeah, it's so tasty, it's so good good.
What else was about when you find yourself being like, uh, like I don't even really like this thing. That's fucking delicious and like makes my body like involuntarily do things like water just pour out of my mouth.
Oh my god.
Wow.
But when that's your take, like you're you're working too hard to have a take exactly.
I also just you know, it's good when religions are like you cannot have it, like you know.
That shit is good?
Man?
Ready here? So another okay, another article. I'm not going to name these people because they're all weirdos. But another person they're article and her number one choice was clubbing, clubbing, going out clubbing, and it was just like you loser, bitch, like, stop imposing your introverted lifestyle on people who enjoy being outside.
When was the last time you went to the club? Though, more so you go to the club.
Well, because of my foot injury, it has been few and far between, but I will say, like two weeks ago I think I was like my birthday party weekend, so was at what middle of August? So yeah, like a couple of weeks ago. I was out and I because my foot injury, couldn't really do much. But yeah, I took my boyfriend to this place in Medesto called Crocodile. It's like this old ass like it is a wedding reception without the family. It is so fun. There's like
no drinks on the dance floor. They encourage people to dress up. There is a strict dress code and not like not on some like racist dress code on some like don't come in here, sloppy bro. Like guys have to have their shirts buttoned up. If they wear a button up, like you cannot have a little like tank top showing underneath. Like they're very much like no, bro, We're here to dance and drink and have a good
time and respect everybody. And they're on it. Like I saw them go up to some guy, some young dude, because he thought he could get away with whatever. He was dressed up really cute, but he unbuttoned his shirt to like show off, and dudes came up and were like, you need to button your shirt back up. Bro, and I loved it because I was like, yeah, I got dressed up. You should dressed up too. Couples like seventy year old couples come in there dressed matching and dance
the night away. Like I love going out dancing, and that's maybe that doesn't fall under clubbing, but there are places to go out and have a good time and dance and enjoy yourself. And I hate when people are like clubbing is so lame, Like, girl, you just don't like to drink and be out and it's loud and you're probably neurodivergent. You can't handle all the fucking sensory overload.
Shit that's you might toothes like like this, this shit sounds so fun. We have another guest to talk about, like going to like there was like a chandelier room where they were like singing Elvis covers or some shit like just like go find a weird club.
To find the club, Yes, find the club that works for you. But I don't shit on clubbing. Come on and Jersey Shore shit, I get like you don't want to be around that. I understand, Like, sure, you know there's so many different What.
About bottle Wars did y'all see that clip over the weekend of the bottle warship that was going on. I know, like a Houston nightclub. It was like New York versus Baltimore. Bottle It's like this ship people have been doing for a while. You just start, you just start emptying bottles onto the floor for the flex. Oh god, dumping like six thousand dollars with their liquor, like onto the floor. Yeah, it's it's the flex, you know what I mean. It
manifests in different ways. But I'm at the Crocodile's website. I'm looking at they have a whole dress code sub page. Like so women, no sports attire, no T shirts, no sweats, no baseball caps, beanies, no overly revealing clothing. I like that. They're like, we're modest men. Collar dress shirts required, no sports attire, no T shirts, no longer shorts, sleeve shirts, no Henley's, No shallow V necks, oh Henley style of shallow V necks okay, no hoodies okay, shallow nice dress
sweaters Okay. I can't get away my ship that I try and pull off with my V neck. Yeah, that deep like where I'm flirting with exposing navel, yeah percent, No sweats, no baggy loose clothing. No club colors. What are club colors?
Are they to club colors like gang colors? Like red white, I mean red, I mean red, blue?
Whatever else? No sandals, flip flops, no fans.
You can't wear red or.
Blue, or you just can't wear all red or it depends on the red and the blue. You can usually tell.
Right right right, Yeah, if you don't have like a flag coming out of your pocket with your cool hut on, then maybe we have a problem. Wait, but you're saying this isn't on some like racist ship, because it's very much like they just want or they just want everybody to come in, like it's like it's a nice place, like.
It's a nice place. I'm telling you that's not They're they're totally like trust me, Hood motherfuckers show up.
Right, But there they are. But they're in their plates, they're in.
Their player fit. Yeah, that's what I'm saying.
It's like it is.
It seems like it off top, like I get it, but when you're reading it, but I'm telling you, it's not that they're like no, no, no, you can be Hood is fucking here and you can like be annoying and all that.
Ship, but just be cute.
Don't be a mess on the dance floor. You can't. Like they really are just like no, we're just here. It's like family. Like it's like a family function.
I love it. Wow, interior does look like a time capsule.
It is, dude. It's so fun if you're ever in the Central Valle and you want to go out, especially on Saturday night. Friday nights are pretty empty, but Saturday nights are always popping and they're soap and it's the music is insane. Yeah, wow, music is insane.
Like it looks like it's like a fucking scene in Carlito's Way.
Or yes, dude, yeah, so that's what I'm saying. When you walk in there, you want.
To look cute right right right.
They want you to match the vibe.
It's like Carcado's Way mixed with a laser tag, like.
Yeah, it's cute.
So the music, like the other day, it was like it went from like suave mee to like eminem something like the music is insane. It's silly. It's just you're there for a silly time right right now. And that's the other thing. That's why it's like even the music is like kind of corny, but like in that fun way. Whe're like we never high school. Yeah, yeah, you know you're at a party. You're just like, you know, you're just gonna be kissing tonight. That's it.
Wow, shout out crocodile.
I love crocodiles. It's the funnest all right.
So finding a weird club is underrated having a like cool yeah, Unie.
She was saying it was overrated, but it's like, now a man, find the clubs that work for you. And then the final article that I saw that the I've only gave the first one for the other two articles. I got to give the two on this one because it's really funny how they go hand in hand. This guy's idea of what's overrated. The first one is a formal education, which I agree, But then the second one is science.
This guy's got some opinions on the go. He's done some research, some of his own research on the vaccine. I don't think he's a fan of Fauci.
Yeah, because it's like, oh yeah, formal education. I agree. Not everybody should be required to fucking for any fucking job to have a fucking aaba any of that shit. There's plenty of jobs of don't eat that shit. And then he said science and I was like, bro, I'm tapping out. We are not agreeing on the same on the same number one.
He's like, yeah, wh I got my master's degree on YouTube, you know what I mean. That's why I can go toe to toe with any person who went to a brick and mortar college, like go, sure, Okay.
Actually got a Bachelor of Science from Praguer University, from which that's not usually there especial price based it's all faith based science.
I got mine at ragu University, all sauce.
Prego rag old world style degree.
All right, Uh, let's take a quick break and we'll come back and we'll check in with Donald Trump. We like to do it once a week, just make sure he's doing all right. We'll be right back and we're back, and uh, we won't be playing the Drake drop for this. No. Sixty one protesters have been indicted for violating Georgia's Rico Act for protesting the building of a massive military installation.
Yeah.
Uh huh A lot clear where the bad guys are right, Yeah, Oh, of course the protesters. Y, of course, how dare you?
They're getting hit with charges like domestic terror for like trying to disable like machines or like you know, they're like they're throwing molotov cocktails and all this other stuff. Money laundering because they were setting up bail funds. They're trying to like they're going after these people in the most fucked up way. The charges are being pursued by
the state's attorney general, you know, Republican Chris Carr. And yeah, this is like a some multifaceted movement of people that realize that building these police training facilities are just merely a terrible escalation of the militarized like police state that we're experiencing across the country, and you know, antithetical to
lowering instances of police brutality. When you're like here's like an here's a whole place where you can train on how to suppress people's you know, democratic rights and things like that, it's.
Like the police Brutality Training Complex.
Oh yeah, because they wanted to. They want to be like, we want them to have the feeling of what it's like to like, you know, kettle people in city streets or neighborhoods so they can do it more efficiently to like round up people. And you know, the Attorney General and governor have been just steadily screaming about how like this this whole thing is actually the work of like
an it's like an organized criminals. This is a criminal organization and enterprise to sort of create this rico narrative to go after protesters. And if you want to really understand how cynical and racist this shit is, if you just look at the date listed on the indictments for like they like they're putting May twenty fifth, twenty twenty as sort of like the beginning of like this shit
going down, which is the day George Floyd was murdered. Okay, wow, So they want to conflate this event with all of the scary BLM protests to say, like, you see what's going on, folks, it's just this like large movement to so discord and chaos when all we're trying to do is make people safer. One of the days in Atlanta, Sherry Boston said that her office would withdraw withdraw from criminal cases involving the cop involving Cop City. But it's
this is some scary shit. I mean, like, these are people exercising their First Amendment rights and the state in City of Atlanta have just made the whole this like into a campaign of like democratic suppression. You know, Like there's the officials they blocked a referendum on Cop City. They ignored all the pleas from the public, all the public comment like we do not want this, or other people in like Dacab County who are like this is near where I live, this is I do not want this.
I do not want to see the forest raised so you can create this fucked up training facility. Then there were people who were like like local election board members were removed for opposing Copcity, and now we're charging protesters with domestic terrorism under the Rico Act.
Yeah. Also, I was gonna say that you should have so much shame that you're using the fucking Rico Act, which was used to bring down Copone.
Yeah, right on these people.
Yeah, like just the fact, like how do you even put that in your mind together as even remotely in the same camp. Well, it's just so fucking yeah. I mean I always am shook and like speechless because like I expect people at some point to have shame, and then I'm like, no, but they don't like what am I talking about. They're heartless and yeah, driven completely by money and power, So why am I so shocked? But it's like every fucking time, you know.
And to try and again scare people from wanting to put checks and balances, you know, on our system, especially as it relates to law enforcement. It's like, oh, you want to protest this, watch to go scorched Earth on your ass. Meanwhile, we're like, yeah, these people who like storm the you know, like we have like people capital protesters where you see judge and you're like, well, you know, I kind of want to go softer? Am I sentencing
here or there? Where you have a very focused AG's office in Georgia being like, yeah, you know what, let's go, let's go reco on them and try and make an example of these people.
Also, sorry, I was just gonna say I was legally arrested for protesting in college. Yeah, illegally arrested for protesting in college. And I was part of a class action lawsuit against the Metropolitan Police Department in DC and we won, and like it was one of the most kind of fucked up in traumatic things being detained the way I was.
I also wasn't a citizen yet, I was just a resident alien, and like they you know, took all of my paperwork, my resident alien card, all my shit, like when the cops twined it off of I just never got it back. But the amount of time and like effort and everything it takes to even go through a thing where you would then sue, like we ended up changing the law, but the number of years that it takes,
like and the way that they treated us. You know, I was zip tied right hand to left foot for like over twelve hours, you know, the way they fucking like treated us in jail whatever, it just it was super fucked up. But the fact that they did that Friday morning, really early before an entire weekend of protests, that's pretty much the same tactic here. It's like they try to go hard early to discourage protesting, you know what I'm saying, Like in the future, and it's the
same tactics that Bush used. Because it was they were training in riot gear cops four months before this, Like it was all they had buses numbered ready to go because they were like, we're taking hundreds of people off the street. So then for the rest of the weekend there's no protests.
Yeah.
So it's like it just like it makes me so fucking pissed because these people are gonna get fucked on a much much larger scale. What I'm talking about is child's play. And it's still was hard to get any sort of justice or change the law or have anything be different. And I feel like the number one thing they tell you when you protest, right, they're like, hey, you know, you guys are thugs. You don't use the system correctly, Like why don't you use the lawful system?
And that is what I did in this instance too.
Yeah, and it's like, okay, well I'll tell you I did the actual lawsuit and the lawful thing, and it is that is not you think that that's justice, that that's really what people should be doing, or that that fixes anything. Like obviously, if you are thinking that there's the right and wrong way to protest, you also are going to think that there's never the right way.
Yeah, people went to those city council meetings, they gathered signatures, they did every they tried it every single way. But again, when you have municipality and this bureaucracy, that's just intent, like just so intent on making this installation happen, no matter what you get these kinds of fucked up measures. And yeah, I'd hate to bring up private equity.
No, don't do it, Miles, but it can't have.
Two of the biggest corporate backers of cop City are Rourke Capital, which is a private equity firm that owns inspire brands, you know, the Duncan, RBS, Baskin, Robbins, Buffalo Wild Wings, et cetera. Their CEO sits on the board of trustees for the Atlanta Police Foundation, and they're raising sixty million dollars from corporate donors to build this place.
Like so there's one part of it. The other is Silver Lake Management, which sounds like a cool maybe talent agency that represents bands from the East side of the LA. But no, no, no, it.
Sounds like a like a like a land lording agency, right, like you rent your apartment from.
In Silver Lake, right exactly. Silver Lake Management, they actually are tech focused private equity firm and they have a huge steak in Motorola Solutions aka the company that designed the surveillance system to make Atlanta the most surveiled city in the United States, and they also develop really cool tools for use in prisons the US Mexico border, and surprise, surprise, the West Bank because we talk about there's this conversation
of using these sort of like crowd control technologies. They start off they can they use them like abroad, and the West Bank fine tune them, and then we end up seeing them boomerang onto our own shores, used against our people who are exercising their First Amendment rights. So yeah, it's wild to think that the ratio of cameras to people in Atlanta, it's forty almost forty nine cameras per thousand people in Atlanta. That's the highest. It's more than DC,
it's more in New York City. And you're like, huh huh.
It also feels like we're seeing like a FUCOS boomerang on like the legal president of Like, okay, we cheered when they used this against Trump, and then they're like, okay, so you're good, but watch this then and then watch this. We're going to use it against your ability to protest against a fucking military installation.
It's just amazing. These are the people that are like, I'm sorry, the Second Amendment is everything I'm like, okay, well, what about that other amendment. Yeah, you know, no one that protects the right to protest, which you should be into because you're so into the law of the land right now. No, that amendment, I guess is bullshit. The first amendment. We just don't look at that one. That one's just like what epps.
Yeah, And I mean then you look at like even protesters that were killed by the police over the court like it's this is it's it's it's mind blowing. And yeah. Now again it's like the Republican Attorney General is like, yeah, watch this, I'll use the same grain jury that got those charges for Trump and we'll use it for this now. Yeah.
So, and I think there's a really valid point, Sophia that like they're you know, as we see more fear from the wealthy, as we see the billionaire owner of Cardier lose more sleep over the idea that like eventually the people are going to be pissed that we're billionaires, right, Like, yeah, the more we see that, the more we're going to see things like this where they're trying to make an
example of people protesting. Yeah, I think it's imperative that we keep attention on these people and like, you know, understand that these are people who are working on our behalf, even though I think the mainstream media narrative is not always going to be very favorable to the to the protesters right.
Now, and hardly would you hear it where it's like wow, they're really I mean again, everything is always tinged with slightly pro cop bias, So they just want to make it look like it's a bunch of like hippies who want to save the trees in the forest, when a lot of people like this is again, we're ramping up our militarized police state in a time when all they've proven, all we've seen from our law enforcement system is that
it doesn't work. Doesn't work, it doesn't prevent crime. All it does is pile up more victims of police brutality. But yeah, these are the stakes right now.
Yeah.
No.
I think also these strategies, you know, always repeat. It's like every single time protesting happens, the way that they try to quell it is always tactics that they've used before. And I think one of those things is like that's great about the internet is if you go and protest, I just want to make that clear to everybody that like, you absolutely should if you can, but you should absolutely know going out what you should do and not do.
Have the you know, National Lawyer's Guild number on you, like all of the stuff that you absolutely need to know you can look up. And it's just I think, really really important because like a privileged fucking white woman, I was still like an immigrant, which again scared me because you know, they charged me, they try to charge me with rioting because we asked for food and writing is a felony and if that happened, I would have been super fucked And like again privileged white woman, still
was really fucked up experience. And you just need to know what you're going in and you need to have friends on the outside when you're protesting so that you know they know what the deal is. You have a plan, just like be careful when you do it. That's all.
Yeah, yeah, because they ain't playing fair out of here.
No, no, no, they're not all right. If you guys heard the game six Degrees with Kevin Beagan, sink pivot, sick pivot.
Oh yeah, pivot.
Have you seen this?
You guys heard about this?
You see this? Oh yeah, wait I got our guest last last time, when Sophia was almost like the thing the thing that is underrated about your podcast is the hurdling changes of pace.
Oh yeah, we got to hit them all the guys comes at you quick.
It does you know? Does your news feed stop to coddle you and think about your feelings?
Don't you get a mixture of Apple alerts that are like bummer news? And then also it's like highly genderin Timothy Shallow.
More Timothy Shallow relationship updates than I am.
I mean I just go on the internet. I'm like, wowious joke about bussy and then underneath that, like we have created another monster voltron of cops. I'm like that that's live and.
Then is it good for your city?
Yeah? Okay, cool, thank you?
Oh yeah, your sexy dark voice is gone.
I know my sexy voice smiles. I had the deepest voice that I've ever had when You're gone.
When you were sick.
Yeah, gave me like crazy deep voice.
Yes, I mean not that cool.
It was still but people or like what's that what's the opposite of helium? That that gas? Or like you can like yeah before like super loose, Yeah.
How I felt.
Loved it especially, but everybody loved it. People were customerized. You could tell a sa that was we're falling for him the fluoride.
That's what it is.
They victor like justin everybody, everybody falling up over it.
All right, So there's a new study from six different nations. This is just this is like one of those studies where it's like, wow, you did everything so well to like just put this into a press release, and I'm not mad at it. You did a good job. Fine,
you've gotten my attention. But basically the whole thing, they're like, the thing about six degrees of come bacon also happens in real life where there's like six degrees of separation, and they kind of looked at the math of how humans form our friend groups and basically we are constantly evaluating.
It's very very much sounds like, you know, a scientist who has not spent a lot of time around other humans, like observing humans because they're like human is constantly evaluating the cost benefit of keeping up old relationship alive or making a new friend.
And he did the study because he wanted a friend.
Totally, why do we do anything right? And I probably read it because of that. But the study like spends a lot of time basically explaining why people have friends, like they're just very confused about that.
I think that's pretty sweet of that article, I know, isn't it.
I kind of love it. But the interesting details the Nash equilibrium, like the point at which people have no further incentive to go incentive to go outward with their friend making or inward with their friend pruning usually lands at a place that averages out to six degrees of separation from like everyone else on the planet, which is wild,
but that that's the I mean, it makes sense. Like I assumed it was going to be something about like network dynamics and like how you know, over over time, you're like sort of compounding the number of like just you know, three degrees of separation away. You've like compounded the number of people that everyone knows. But it's also about how like the sizes of those groups that each person is connected to well different, you know, workout to an average of about an average of about six huh.
How so, but that wouldn't have been true pre Internet.
I think it has been true.
That's the thing, Like, I think it's pre Internet, right, that yeah, yeah existed.
So like no, no, no, I just mean, oh, I just mean, do you really? I guess I was thinking, like it's easy for me to think of being six degrees away from anyone on the planet, like with the Internet and like also just like oh, you have a friend that lives in this country and blah blah blah blah blah. Right, but I'm thinking.
Track yeah, yeah, right, right, right. So I didn't know the origin of the experiment or of the the idea of six degrees. It's actually Milgram, you know, the guy who like gives the experiment. Yeah, it's the famous shock experiment where people come into a lab and it was based on like the trials of Nazi prison camp guards at the Hug and how they were like, we were just following orders, and so he did this experiment show that people will continuously shock people whether or not. So
basically the people weren't actually being shocked. Put a person a white lab coat, is like, keep keep administrating.
Basically he wouldn't see the person. The person who was administering the shocks quote unquote, would hear someone's sounds of pain, yeah, but that person was acting. But the person who was shocking them didn't know they were acting, right, so they can what later churned out in addition to the result of like, oh yeah, people will straight up just follow orders because a guy I know, lab coat was like shocking.
But the other thing that came out of it is a lot of ethics stuff for how you run studies, because the people that were fake shocking, once they found out it was fake, they were like super fucking traumatized. Yeah, I'm not really great my life knowing that essentially you used me to prove that I could be a Nazi.
A Nazi, go.
Lay down, you know what.
I just fallen orders, man, you just fallen orders.
You know.
Yeah.
And there are other things about the design of that experiment and like how so like some people might have really known that they were acting and who knows. But the other big experiment he did that I was not as familiar with was they basically tried to connect two people in as few steps as possible, just by like sending out this brown paper package and being like, hey, we're trying to get this to a Divinity student in Boston.
You are a farmer in Iowa that we've ran dumbly selected from the entire population of the US, like go and what they found they were like, oh, well, I know this episcopalian like in my town. The episcopalian was like, I actually know somebody who I like met at an Episcopalian conference who's from Boston. And they got this package to this randomly selected divinity student and like a matter of six degrees and they they found that to be kind of consistently the case when they ran this experiment.
And the thing that I hadn't fully appreciated is like they also asked people before this experiment, like what would you think the results would be, and like that.
How many steps would take?
Yeah? How many steps? And that that is like you know, I've known the six degrees of separation. I've known that phrase. I've known that that that is a Will Smith movie since I was, you know, properly storing memories. So I don't know what my guess would be, but the guess has ranged from like one hundred to one thousand, two people being like you'll never connect them, like it'll just like why would you ever be able to connect two random people? Like the world is so big and so massive.
I would have guessed twelve for some reason really like ten or twelve. I think, what would you have guessed?
I think I would have guessed a word one hundred.
Yeah, if no one had said anything about six degrees of whatever.
Ever, yeah, I would probably think one hundred. Feels like I could do it within one hundred. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it feels like a safe that it is. It is a little mind blowing. You're like, would probably take less than ten. You're like, really, yeah, it seems Yeah.
The fact that it's single digits, I think, like totally fucks me up. Yeah, exactly, fucks me up.
The way my voice fucked up everybody last week fucked up never No.
Yeah, Miles, you better listen to that episode if you're respectful.
Man and I get all self conscious and that come on tomorrow's episode, like, y, so we'll sell you as well.
Be able to.
Record anymore because you're just blushing so hard the entire time.
It's just talking to me with that voice. Yeah, but I.
Mean, like not putting yourself on camera because people can't handle it, just can't. You can't be on zoom.
It's hard, like so now they can, So how you can apply this now to all kinds of sort of like network mapping, right if you kind of know this to be sort of it averages out to around six no matter what helps like with all kinds of like I guess you know how we look at pandemics or other network dynamic or network dynamic dependent phenomena.
Yeah, it's six infection cycles and the whole world has. The fucking thing is like kind of the dark side of this finding is you know, it spreads quick right, And I think this is true of also like social contagion, like the how quickly ideas spread, you know, because that that's a thing that spreads over over social media like faster than it ever has. And so I think we're less stable like across wide geographic margins than we ever have been, Like we're more susceptible to ideas that come
in and sweep through and change things. And it's definitely like a power a powerful study because they yeah, they specifically say, when we did the math, we discovered an amazing result. This process always ends with social paths centered around the number six. Each individual acts independently without knowing the network as a whole. Yet this self driven game shapes the structure of the entire network, leading to the small world phenomenon and the recurring pattern of six degrees.
That's fucking crazy.
Yeah, that's yeah, that small world. It is funny that like when we went to a museum in like London, we ran into somebody who her magic you didn't even know book came to find out they were at the same college at the same time, randomly like helping a stranger up the steps with a baby stroller and we had one too, and then started talking and then it's just like, oh, yeah, my husband went there, and then it's like, what the fuck, that's crazy.
Yeah, it wasn't even a thing where you were like wearing the same sweatshirt and like noticed each other.
Yeah, no, no, not at all. Just groups of parents college had waving up.
Yeah, does this guy think.
He is before run into the same people when I'm visiting a place, like a different like during my vacation or whatever, like at a lot of different places and not like tourist attractions. You know what I'm saying.
It happened to you ever, that happened to me this weekend, the Huntington Park or the Huntington Library, whatever the fuck that thing is.
Yeah, it's not in gardens.
It's an amazing huge garden, and like we arrived with like three different groups of people like just in line at the same time, and like kept seeing that we were just like on the same we would like circulate going like all these weird different directions, and like kept seeing those same people.
And it's a big ass park. Oh, so many different ways to go. It's like not or when I rented my place in Paris. I knew one person there and he was like, oh, what's your address? And I gave it to him and he started laughing and he's my friend.
He's half a block.
His place was half a block away.
Oh wow.
Really I knew one person in all of Paris and ended up renting an airbnb.
Huge, it's like ten twelve blocks. It's so big. Find no Paris Like it's you got the Eiffel Tower. You got a couple streets on the left side of the Eiffel Tower, the right.
Done so far, there's the river. We're done.
You got the sports, the champs. Sports at least a got it all.
See so it comes back so.
Culture champs head me too.
Yeah, amazing. All right, Well let's take another quick break and we'll come back and talk about Donald Trump, We'll be right back, and we're back, and the internet is, you know, just just clogged with jokes about this recent flight that had to make an emergency landing because one of the passengers had just a crazy, just an unexpected amount of diarrhea. It's un like spilling into the aisles
levels of diarrhea. This was a delta flight for Atlanta to Barcelona was forced to turn around and make an emergency landing after a passenger. This is the quote that I think people are responding to, quote head diarrhea all the way through the plane. That is a powerful description all the way through the plane.
Of that, I think. And then they said it was a I think then they told that from the cockpit they said it was a biohazard event. Yeah, that was forcing them to turn the plane around, which is very It's something. The amount of obsession with this story is kind of wild. I don't know if it's tapping into like just in it like innate fear we have as people or what. But I I thought this was like
a headline I would see come and go. But the amount of like other places like Vice TMZ, like all these other blogs that are now like writing like long form articles about it, like where did like where did the sort of of like social norms break down during this event? Like it is something like I'm now like seeing think pieces about like how did we get to the point that I was in.
The eyes the pook?
Yeah? How what happened? What went wrong?
What required? Like why why are they saying social norms broke down? Like isn't it just somebody who had health problem?
I think there. I think it's almost wondering, like how could it be that much? Why is it all? Like why is it all up and down the plane? Like with someone in blogging the bathroom. There's just it's caused more questions than I feel like we even need to ask, you know, how.
Much weight he lost?
Right?
Will it stay off? You know?
Yeah?
I don't know, I need Yeah, we know it's.
Him because women wouldn't roll like that, you know what I mean?
Coming I think it was the dude had to be wearing cargo shorts. It's just like a like a ru yeah yeah maybe maybe very yeah. But it's like and it's just wild too, because now you're seeing like listicles, like here's some other unusual reasons like Pooh has like derailed a flight and you're like, wow, well.
Yeah, I mean that's the thing, is not that abnormal? Like right, I guess it's usually dogs, right, Like in twenty fourteen, a plane had to make an emergency landing because the service dog pooped in the aisle. Let me get an exact description of that one, because they're like up to three times, according to multiple media reports. The airlines cab and crew did their best to clean up the mess, but then the animal service dog, according to US Airways, pooped again up to three times, according to
multiple media reports. In twenty fifteen, a British Airways flight had to turn around due to a smelly pooh and the toilet so that presumably was not a dog. I'm shocked that it doesn't have a more frequently with dogs,
because it did. I had a I don't tell the story very often because it turned out our dog was very sick and like we we didn't realize it at the time we were traveling with our dog, but our dog was you know, tiny, spreading out of the bag we were carrying her, and made a beeline for first class and just took a massive shit in first class. The flight attendants like brought her back, told us we were going to like have to turn the plane around
if it happened again, And then it happened. It happened again because she was like an escape artist and it was it was really bad. I had always admired her for being a real one and taking the shit in first class, but you know it, like she ended up being very, very sick, like when we got when we landed, we took her to the vet and like she didn't make it much longer than that, unfortunately. But it was
definitely incredibly stressful. And I have always wondered since I'm like, how do all these dogs, Like I see a lot of dogs on the flights, Like how do they they're I'm just impressed that they know that they need to hold it and that they're, like, you know, able to do that the hid time. I guess it's just like the owners like skip a meal beforehand.
I guess. I mean, I've flown once with my dog, and that was the only fear I had the entire flight, was like you're gonna take a shit everywhere, Like, yeah, I'm gonna look like the dude with the shitty dog on the plane or the airport. I mean a lot of it had to do with like my own I think shame around having a like it weren't less so about the like worrying about the dogs, Like the dog will make me look a certain way, and I'm not
about that life. So I had to maybe put my my my frail ego aside to let the dog do his thing. But yeah, I don't know, It's just I think it's a universal fear we all have, you.
Know, Yeah, And I think I think there's also a lot of people like are just focused on what it must be like to be that person who had this experience.
Right right, because now all we're talking about is person the person who did this mess and messed everybody's flight to Barcelona. You know what happened? What? How could that have happened?
Too much, Carrie could.
Be or maybe just having like our terrible air like airport food. That's one thing I'll say, the airport food is better in England than the US, because again I hate to bring up those like easy meal deal sandwiches, but if you buy a sandwich in the US airport is gonna be like a fifteen dollars croissant sandwich with turkey on it that tastes like absolute shit and who knows how good it is. So I feel like it could be it could be our it could be something
at Hartsfield Jackson Airport. But I don't know. I don't quite know. The thing with the thing with this, like the BA flight that had to be turned around due to a quote smelly pooh, which is a very English description where Americans would be like, yeah, dude, just shit everywhere smelly pooh had to be I like that they said only fifty percent of the air is being recycled? Is that killing us during the pandemic? Like so much of the air gets re and like filtered or am
I am? I completely missing that stat because I feel like that was a thing that people are always told about how the air on airplanes is much better than you would imagine.
Right, I mean, fifty percent is still is that a lot of the air? But yeah, I don't I don't know. I don't know what that even means, that fifty percent of the air is being recycled and cleaned, right, But yeah, a decision was taken to return for the safety and comfort of our customers on board. Yeah, very classy.
Classic.
Someone complained about the shit. You know that it can't have been that much. Someone complained, someone just couldn't handle the shit.
But in this one, there have been videos from the from inside the plane after it all went down, and it looks like there are streaks of something running up and down the aisles.
Those you know, it's funny though in these articles, you're like, those images have not been confirmed by the airline. It could be topic would be Scott scat propaganda, So I'm not sure entirely.
Oh yeah, it was very bad.
Yeah, yeah, oh my god.
Well they made at least they made their flight after a five hour delay.
So you know who should play the guy in the movie?
Right? It's a it's a great question. I mean, I think it kind of has to be Tim Robinson.
But is it someone nervous? Is it? Or is it? Or do you see someone with confidence at it? You know what I mean? Like I can see it being a villain too. It's like, hey, I don't know what you want me to do, you know. Oh, you know, like I think if we put ourselves in that situation, we might be a little less brazen or confident about it. But hey, yeah, it's like.
A confident person then it almost is like are they just doing it on purpose because they feel like they can get away with it? Like that that becomes weird.
And how long till you fly again? Do you know what I mean?
Like?
How long to you right?
Do they right? Do they do? You get a new plane? Or they're like or you go back in the plane and you're kind of clocking all the master You're like, oh, they didn't really get everything. But you know what, I don't want to delay my vacation, so let's go.
Yeah, great questions that we don't We don't currently have the answer to it. But obviously this is an evolving story. Obviously that we will you know, well, we'll keep updating and will will. It's now history has its eyes on this one. We'll see where it lands, so to speak.
Uh.
And finally, Hollywood keeps trying to recreate Barbenheimer in weird ways, which like, so one thing, we're getting a low budget parody movie called Barbenheimer about a group of quote fed up female dolls who build an a bomb to bring
down the patriarchy once and for all. The poster is a Barbie doll silhouette in front of mushroom cloud and it says d cup a bomb Barbenheimer exploding soon m The studio in charge of this production is Full Moon Features, best known for the puppet Master and Trancers movies.
What's Transfers.
I'm not familiar with puppet Master Trancers. Seems like it's like trying to capitalize on some other movie. But I'm not. I'm not sure what what exactly that is.
It's like, uh, it's I don't know it. It's the first one came out in nineteen eighty.
Four, The Transfers, the first Transers.
It looks like some janky version of like Tron, maybe not Transformers.
Huh no, yeah, it's like a fake Transformer's.
Fake Oh I see.
Sorry, fantasm like like the this feels like not not the highest level of it.
Says a gruff bounty hunter travels back in time to nineteen eighties Los Angeles to stop a twisted criminal who can transform people into zombie like creatures.
Oh that sucks hard hitting it? Well, they so this came out in eighty four, so they.
Were of the first transfers did Yeah? Yeah, Helen Hunt was even in it.
Wow, all right, so but mostly people, uh in studios keep trying to awkwardly force pairs of movies that happen to be releasing on the same day into the Barbenheimer mold. The most prevalent attempt at the moment seems to be Saw Patrol because Saw X and the new Paw Patrol movie both open on September twenty ninth, and so people are like, forget Barbenheimer, get ready for Saw Patrol on September twenty ninth.
What is the logic they're applying. It's just that, like Saw in Paul rhyme, Therefore it's the LC double feature of all time.
That's what worked about the last one.
Which one are you gonna watch first?
Yeah?
Yeah, Saudia, which one you catch them first? You go in Paw Patrol first? Or Saw Saw X first? Poo go Paw first?
Okay, yeah, yeah, See. I think you need to watch Saw to like get ready to feel all of like what is actually happening in the Paw Patrol movie these I think.
You need to prepare you, right, because the overlap of that that that's not even a Venn diagram of audiences. It's just two circles on top of each other, right, yeah.
Yeah, yeah, Like Ali, Barbie and Oppenheimer were obviously very different movies, but they you know, they could conceivably cater to the same audience like movie lovers first of all, and then like adults, but like, no adult wants to see Paw Patrol like that. That's a that's an actual scientific fact. No adult is going to Paw Patrol with being dragged there by a child, right, But kids would love to see Saw. They would They probably shouldn't. Yeah, yeah,
there's a lot of fun. There's a lot of creativity in Saw and things that appeal to a child.
They left puzzles, especially once that end with you becoming disfigured or dying. Yeah, of course, but.
They they are like both film studios are like playing into this, like they did a Saw like Saw Patrol social media post like they had the Paw Patrol puppies in a post from Paramount Picture saying seven tickets to Saw Patrol please hashtag Saw Patrol. And then Jigsaw doing like a weird children's puzzle and then I don't know, it says there is no escape. This is not really uh oh, but the children's puzzle is a Paw Patrol puzzle. So it's just Jigsaw having a meltdown and deciding to
killtrol Post. That picture is like of like a mannequin that they just put a pencil in the hands, Like that is not like real hands and a jacket. You known, Like, look how rigid the hands are in that picture. It's like, dress this doll up and we'll say it's Jigsaw. But isn't Jigsaw That that Jigs was a toy?
Right?
Oh?
Oh is it? Huh? Who is the guy? Oh? But then there was the guy Loki who was dying in the background, right, who was right? Yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, okay, I forgot See I'm this is so I don't fuck with those movies. I'm like, I don't want to see something where someone's head gets like sucked out with a vacuum or some shit.
I'm like, yeah, I'm gonna give it that.
Yeah. Yeah, life's already too fucked up. I don't need to be like, yo, you'd be worse if your eyeballs got fucking blown out by a fucking vacuum.
Like no, I'm good then, all right, So just others that are they're trying to shoehorn in Taylor swift eras Tour and the Exorcist movie. They were trying to make it into exor Swift, but then the Exorcist movie fucked off because they didn't want to be on the same day that Taylor Swift was like breaking the box office, right, and then Indie Wire questioned if the new Barbenheimer could be the release of Martin Scorsese's historical drama Killers of the Flower Moon and the sci fi drama Foe, which.
Like this, I don't know. It's just it's very confusing.
I don't know what they It's just I think it just think happened the time, right.
It just speaks to like the quote unquote brain power in Hollywood too, where you see like they see a thing work once and then the first thought is we need to replicate this in the most literal way possible, not like zooming out and trying to understand what happened. They're like, I don't know, they combined the word Barbie and Oppenheimer, and people fucking lost it. So let's do it with.
All their money.
Yeah.
Maybe it's like a magic word and we say magic word and they give us all their money.
We need to find we need to invent the new magic word to unlock people's brains to buy double feature tickets, rather than saying this was a you know, serendipitous occurrence where it was just through sheer coincidence and people being witty on the internet just kind of became a meme where they're like, I don't know, these are two ends of the spectrum that would be kind of interesting, rather than being like exer Swift. Huh.
I think a good mashup would be Scarfacing Godfather. Wouldn't that be great?
M m yeah, noah.
At the same time, Hell.
Yeah, I'm wondering though too, Like in the past, I'm sure like there were a ton of weekends like this where you had movies, but we just didn't have the Internet to like give it like a new name where I'm sure too, like two great films came out at the same time, but yeah, that's so obsessed with.
The or we're at least out at the same time. Because movies used to stay out for like six months, they would be in theaters. They were like, you know, that's that's all we got for this year, folks. We made three movies. We hope you like one of them. Yeah, the other options Despicable Meat four opens opposite Mufasa the Lion King, which those are just two animated movies for children.
What the fuck are you guys talking about? But yeah, yeah, it really feels like people have somehow forgotten that two movies opening on the same day is just a thing that happens literally every single week.
Right, Like I mean, I feel like maybe like back when albums used to come out on Tuesdays, sometimes you would have those like blessed release days. You're like, yo, I'm actually getting two albums today. But again, it's it's just the release schedule, folks, And I don't think you want to see this.
What it is is that, you know, the first week sales they like really mean a lot, and I think it's obviously it's all about the money, right, So they're just trying to get that did to create that big hype so that people are just looking at the listings and be like, oh, that's that's in the top, so that's the top five, top whatever, let's go check that out.
Yeah, what was the what was the one that, like Beetlejuice was gonna come out like with something else. They were saying, Oh, the new Beetlejuice movie. Might they might have something with that new Beetlejuice thing coming out at the same time as another movie. But I already forgot because it doesn't fucking matter. It's two movies fucking coming out, right.
I vaguely remember it, though, I know what you're talking about.
Yeah, yeah, I know that. I think. I'm sure there's already articles heralding like whatever you beatle former movie is or whatever the fuck we're gonna get.
All right, that's gonna do it for this week's weekly Zeitgeist. Please like and review the show If you like, the show means the world de Miles. He needs your validation, folks. I hope you're having a great weekend, and I will talk to you Monday. By