Hello the Internet, and welcome to this Monday week Trending episode for October ninth, twenty twenty three. Happy Indigenous People's Day. I'm Jack O'Brien. That is Miles Gray. Yeah, Miles Grey. Wow, what's up man, I'm trying to get the energy up, bro, I get the energy. Come on, now, come on, get the energy up. Yet A long weekend had had a yeah, man, I was out there with the boys, out a lot of sut Yeah, I'm I'm officially a scout for the
Phoenix Suns collecting intelligence. Kevin Grant to go hang out with but yeah, Kevin Durant as tall as hell man turns out to go hang out with my dad at the Phoenix Sun's training camp for a day, which was super fun. Good to see the old man, see Frank Vogel, Uh right and uh yeah. And then this weekend was a whole another mess because I got home and immediately went camping. Got you know, we rented a cabin in the woods, so it wasn't like camping camping.
Oh oh got you got you?
Got you?
Yeah?
Wait?
Was it a scout thing or was a family thing?
This was a whole school thing. The whole school. So it is like one large, roving birthday party. But you know, like you're just like at a thing with like kids and their families for forty eight hours and uh, it's.
Wait, what do you what do you mean it's for someone's birthday.
No, it wasn't a birthday, but like you know, you like as a parent, like you know the social event of like, yeah, you had a kid's birthday party.
Yeah, and they're like that energy with Yeah, I'm starting to see that more. Like as I talked to more friends who like live in different parts of the city, is like, dude, I can't out have nothing in common with some of these dads.
It's like freaks me out.
Like everyone's like a flat brim cap, wrap around sunglass dude, like.
Loose my loose teas on. And it doesn't it doesn't matter. There's a lot of us out here, the flat brim wrap around and shade people.
You're telling me, bro, I was up in it this weekend.
Yeah, that's what I hear. Shall we get into our overrated underrae? Yeah, let's get into it. What is your overrated? My overrated this weekend? Uh?
This reality that I'm experiencing is Octoberfest celebrations in La So I went to.
I've been to an october Fest.
I've not been to like the one like legit German Octoberfest, but I've been to one that felt like it where it felt like a faithful recreation of like a German beer festival, where like it was like very fun and like raucous and shit. And I was like, Okay, maybe we'll see like what this like local octoberfest thing was that I went to. And ah, man, it was like an excuse for like white supremacists like all where they're like, let's go dude, I saw so much.
Let's go somebody, Let's go.
Brandon like the Blue Line, like you know, hyper pro cop shit like Pinochet thrown out of like helicopter, kind of like Propagate like Wodchin.
Like all, if.
You're like terminally online like some of us are, and you you're kind of familiar with the semiotics of like the far right, your start.
To be like what the fuck is this place?
And it was like wold, dude, everyone, So again I'm like, maybe it's authentic.
Mother. You know what's also funny, everybody's thinking bud light yea.
They were like they had beer tents and there's like only one place you could get like German beer, so like they weren't even like honoring the promise of like German anything.
Uh.
And then every vendor had the same tired ass food, which is a dry ass pretzel or like basically what I suspected were like Johnsonville broughtwursts that you get it's like Froger right, and being like, hey, you wanted the yellowy backing and yeah, yeah, like and then I was like, wait, this one's Italian, dude. I think once you guys messed up and it snuck a package of Italian into this one.
But it was just kind of like a weird just had a weird.
Energy to it, like it it wasn't Yeah, I don't know what the fuck. I don't know what the fuck I was expecting, but it was a very very interesting time with very little good food.
And I was like, at the at the very least, like if I go to like.
A you know, Italian street festival, you're like, you're eat you eat, yeah, But this German one, it was just cops and Johnsonville broughts.
Yeah, it's wild that they're not able to quit budd Light that they're not like that seems like like does bud Light taste different to people than Miller Light or the other beers that are like water mostly water flavored. I should have asked if I'm like, yo, is this like like McDonald's sprite for cops?
You know, like you're like, man, just bud Light out the tap.
Oh yeah, it's.
And I just like it was just so funny to have a thing like hitch hammer you over the head with like the German Experience or whatever and it be just like this very it was basically it's a carnival with.
Like sub Epcot level German Oh.
Not even don't even you know, Okay, I've never even been to Epcot, but I've seen enough Disney Channel to know how magical Epcot is.
It wasn't this.
It wasn't this.
It was like it was bud Light and a couple people in later hosen or like wearing a dirndal.
Yeah, that's interesting. Like I went to October like Cincinnati and southern Ohio has a large German population and they goff for october Fest. But I am curious, like that, what whether though, like as America kind of slides towards fascism, if if October fests like take on a different meaning where they can remember, yeah remember the good old days. Man, it was a kind.
Of like hey German pride, huh, Like I some people had that energy. Yeah, but yeah again, I think it's like to your point, I think it's like anything right, Like, uh, like a Korean street festival will go will be fucking absolutely lit in La because we have like the biggest Korea town in the country versus like what that might
be in another place. Was like maybe yeah, yeah, maybe not so I'm sure, like you know, Zegang, let me know, like if you have a like a lit October fest that doesn't feel like the third and a half Reich.
Yeah, or if it does, if you have a lit one and it's just like even more.
Yeah, because it's so right. Yeah right, it's like three k's in October.
Yeah. My my over is bugs. Bugs, but these things out of here. Yeah. There's that TikTok video where a guy celebrates like that crispness in the air that comes that fall that sends quote bugs back to the hell where they belong, and he's just like yeah, like he made it up. But I enjoy I enjoyed it. That That is kind of how a part of my brain felt every fall when I was growing up on the East Coast orally in a place with seasons, where it was just like ah, yes and there they go.
All we can pray for is it gets cold enough that the mosquitoes fucking subside. That's really like the one thing I'm looking forward to with potentially the fucking temperatures dipping below eighty.
Yeah, So we had a hard time.
We had a camping weekend, like I mentioned, for my kids' school, and there was like some cycle of hot cold that like hatched a bunch of winged insects that were so horny for my eyes and mouth and ears, like just they wanted to get into every hole of my head that didn't have something covering it.
Jesus, So were you just wearing like a ski mask to try to.
Well, I didn't pack a ski mask nor.
You know, always pack a scheme. Your dad taught you that's why you always pack a ski mask.
But like everyone was walking around with their head just being trailed by like a comet taiale of ten to twenty flies and then you yeahing them away swatting them away as they walk. Yeah. I asked the guy at the front desk, like if he had any tips or like, you know, and he was just like, you know, I live in the hills. I get a lot of them. You just kind of become one with the bugs, like I don't even really notice them anymore. And he had like bugs swarming around his head. His entire face was
made of moving bugs. Yeah, it was like that nightmare before Christmas.
Guy.
Once you took this soidey, you are right, it made me feel like a failure because like because I wasn't able to defeat them with just like sheer zen Buddhism and just like, ah, they will not hurt me. But like like yeah, that's also exactly what the bugs would say if they had like broken into someone's brain like they seemed to be trying to do with me, and were like piloting them around, they would be like, no, you just must it's still let them overtake you. It's jack.
It's forty eight thousand bugs in the shape of a guy wearing clothes.
For sure. I had the thought at one point that I was gonna wrap my head in toilet paper, like I didn't seriously consider it, but I was like, I'm going to go full invisible man on this, like that's that is an option that has popped into my head at this point.
So it oh, so it was really okay, okay, well, you know it is. That's what happens sometimes.
I remember when I was like in Africa, I had a similar situation because like Africa is just teeming with life like everywhere, like from the plants that grow to like the fact that there are bugs everywhere, And after a week, I did become one with.
The bugs, like they just Yeah, it's weird.
I think it's truly like this thing where your sense is just dull to it where you're like, dude, you're not going to fucking make it if you're like yeah, yeah, just be like they're gonna fucking And then in a way, I don't know if it was zen or just from just being ground down the bugs, but.
Just like turn a week, brain figures out how to turn that thing off. Yeah, whatever that is. It was like inherently just like ah yeah.
Yeah, exactly to keep my ear where somehow, like I think my ear either repelled the bugs or killed them.
I don't know what was going on.
But yeah, yeah, you just become like a elephant or like a horse, just like kind of lazily swatting at the bugs.
Yeah, every now and then, but like, yeah, sure a fly is gonna crawl on your fucking head.
And then it'll go, you know, it'll land on your eyeball and crawl around there.
For lay some eggs, and I will faithfully take care of the larvae.
Just become one with them. Let them take over. That's coming out of your eye. Let's just fly larva. Sorry, what's what's the thing is underrated?
Underrated, So the ability of children's sports to make me into an asshole. I saw my nephew play Little League over the weekend and it was a close game, but I found myself fucking like wanting to talk shit to the batters that he was facing on the mound like he was pitching. And I was like, okay, full disclosure, these kids are the oldest ten years old. Yeah, this ten year old baseball, which isn't baseball. It's mostly called like weaponizing your ability to predict like a fielding error,
to load the bases and steal bay. That's pretty much all it is at that level. It's always just about like yep, go steal second, yeah, the catcher drop.
You could just become completely unstoppable if you bunted every time because nobody can field whatsoever.
Oh And like I don't know if there's just something for me like about sports, where like it just gives me a reason to act like the stakes are so fucking.
Real and high.
And I obviously, I mean like I'm not yelling at ten year old kids, Like I kept my mouth shut. Obviously, it was just like you know, being cheerful and supportive. But like there would be times like it would be a full count, and in my mind, I was saying, like shit in my head, like I wanted to be like, hey.
This kid scared together. Man, he ain't serious, he ain't serious. You don't know what he's doing.
Just get it to the catcher He'll be shuffling back to the dugout Like That's like it reminded me of being in high school again, when like you could talk fucking cash it like at his sports, like at an event, and that was like the fun of it. And and I realized I needed to just adjust my expectations. But there were they're also like these parents they're like a little too critical of their kids, like.
Oh, what's he do He's got his arms crossed.
Yeah, it's like and like the pictures like about to throw and yeah, I guess he could like he's on third if his arms are crossing, whatever, who gives a shit. But then I just realized, I'm like, I was like just I was becoming like one of those assholes who isn't merely there to like support a loved one, like you know, as they do something they enjoyed, but like becoming one of these people who's like having their ego
live vicariously through a ten year old. Yes, that should not have that responsibility ever, Yeah it's a lot.
And also stop living vicariously.
Through stopt vicariously through your children.
Yeah yeah, yeah, so that I learned a few lessons.
So it many many things were learned from that faithful baseball game, Miles.
In many ways, children can be our best teachers. It's true. I'm uh yeah, no, I'm fully I have a hard time. Like you know, my oldest plays chess a lot, and just like watching his chest match chess, by the way, something I'd never like played prior to a year ago. But like now I'm like, oh, he's not, you know, like on the inside, I'm just like so living and dying with every move and it's absurd.
You're just reading the text recap of his chest game. Kidding me, ma'am, but yeah, am I underrated. I think I've done it before, but I gotta do it again. The goddamn twelve foot hovering witch that I have in my front yard.
That I got home depot. We have a story later on about like the new hot operation. Yeah, big big Halloween decoration, our new gods, and they mentioned the twelve foot skeleton and they mentioned I guess I didn't realize that there's a giant beetlejuice sandworm that you can put in your front lawn, which looks fun. That one looks great.
It's oversized, for sure. It's a yeah, yeah, yeah yeah, But I and they leave off the twelve foot hovering which I just have to you know, first of all, I was able to disassemble it at the end of Halloween season last year, put it back in storage, take it out of storage since we last spoke about it, and put it back up. And she's she's out there hovering off of my front lawn again with her shirt inside out, because it turns out I put the shirt on inside out and it's a tremendous pain in the
ass to undo that mistake. But fine, it's fine. But the seams are showing.
It's fashion three.
But the little kids are back man like taking pictures with There's one family who like has a like ongoing, you know, their their toddler son is like, can we visit the witch every morning when they go on a walk, And it is just because you're spying on the family during their morning discussions. Yeah, exactly, Well that's what I have it there for, for intel gathering. I'm actually hiding in the Witch's skirt and just catching catching people slip with.
The parabolic microphone.
What are they saying? What are they saying about my witch?
But it's got the shirt's normal.
It's just it looks like it's inside out that she meant to wear it that way.
Okay, why is it? Why is the witch talking third person and coughing.
About went camping? There's a lot of smoke inhalations, trying to get your ears.
Would you never mind?
But it's so it does have like one thing the witch has that magic illusion and working like you know the one you ever see that beer that's like hovering in the sky perpetually, like pouring into a mug.
Oh yeah, like the floating from spancers loading. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.
So it works on that same illusion where like her broom is on the ground and she appears to be flying and like that trick very simple, but it always works on my brain for a split second. And so I think I think where the Witch comes from, it's a it's a twofer, and that she's big. She's also flying u and I think she's flying for like thirty seconds.
So it's not just the scale of it, like the damn fucking tired ass skeleton, thank you, that ship's fucking normcore.
We're talking to fucking optical illusion for the babies.
Yeah, but I think she also came out at the same time as the were wolf, and like I think people were a little disappointed in the were wolf, so I haven't I think maybe lumped in together.
I don't know, I don't and I don't mean to. I know we're not doing I already did my overrated but I think, well, were wolves are a.
Bit passe, like just in general, where wolf, Yeah, Wow.
Yeah, unless I'm using I'm using a werewolf to evoke how you would be if you drink a Vietnamese iced coffee.
We have to change yourself to a.
Radio exactly where wolves are like where wolves for anybody who has had substance abuse problems, uh like very easy to identify with. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. Yeah, like I and Jacko and Hide. Yes, but they're not they're not necessarily scary. They're more like very sympathetic characters.
For yeah, because you're like, oh, man, that sucks, he's gotta go back down there again.
Oh that was so annoying.
The McRib is back, Get my chain, honey, I gotta go to the radiator.
Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about the events of the week. We'll be right back and we're back. Yeah and yeah, I mean the weekend was a fucking nightmare. It was really like, you know, horrifying the way, you know, the events that were happening in Israel and also like the way everybody was furious and hurting, and I don't know, it was a bad time.
Yeah, I mean, you know, you know, there was a like a surprise attack launched by Hamas into like out of Gaza that I think the death toll at this point is like over thirteen hundred or something at this point, Yeah, with a lot of Israeli citizens are civilians and Palestinian civilians being killed. Yeah, and it's like, you know, the
footage is fucking horrifying. We've seeing people just like people walking on the street getting shot and I think you know a lot of those images inspired a lot of people to memory hole like what the situation.
Is in Israel has been Yeah.
Yeah, the coverage felt I the first things I read like we're sort of treating these attacks like in a vacuum, as if the like Israelis have not been putting Palestinians like in a fucking open air prison as many people describe the Gaza strip like that for for decades and just be like how what like what were they doing?
What's going?
What?
What did what did they do that they deserve this?
And I'm not here to celebrate civilian deaths by any fucking means. Just like, the thing that was stuck out to me the most was sort of the lack of context around the discussion around what the situation is between Israel and Palestine and a lot of a lot of colonial media shout out June for you know, I had to remind myself that we call this colonial media colonizer media.
They they take up for other colonizer nations and treated sort of like this thing that was mysterious and that like nothing had been happening, as if you know, the inflow and outflow of goods to Palestine is completely controlled by Israelis, like along with medical supplies, electricity, water, countless things. Yeah, and when you look at it from that perspective, you're like, of course, shit like this is going to happen. Yeah, this is this like the violence begets violence and this
is this is the situation. And I think, yeah, it was really like you know, for like, even like the commentary out of like the White House, obviously because we are the biggest arms supplier to Israel, is going to completely leave out the part that you know, the US also has a hand in this from arming the Israeli military and also letting you know, like we talked about this during the all the uprisings in twenty twenty in the US about how a lot of these carceral and
like crowd control technologies we saw being used are like tried, like they're tested in.
Israel on the Palestinian people.
Yeah, and so it's a very like it's a very it's just a very fucked up situation and just to see like how the fracturing of like people like losing sight of what's going on and not to say anything is like justified or anything, but like you're you're looking at a situation where the outcome will only be this kind of violence at a certain point when people are put in k yeah, that they are going to respond like this, and you know that now there's like that
there there have been a lot of like Israelis that are taken hostage, and like the figures on that I think obviously fluctuate depending on like where you're getting your news.
But it's just a it's it's it's it's a.
Fucking it's an ongoing fucked up situation that really has been going on for like seventy five years now. And yeah, like a lot of the coverage is sort of is like, yeah, so this just happened, and that's all we can really talk about.
Yeah, I mean to your point about like it, you know, people do horrific things in the fog of war, but like racist propaganda gets spread in the fog of war as well. You know, I think, like I abhor the killing and mis treatment of innocent people. I just like happen to abhor it when it happens to Palestinian people
as well. But it feels like it doesn't enter the zeitgeist of the United States when the Palestinian people are the ones suffering systemic imprisonment and murder due to the policies of the Israeli government military and like, but I yeah, like both of those things can be true, Like I can want innocent Israeli people to be safe from harm
and also think the Israeli occupation is evil, you know. Yeah, but yeah, it does like it just there does seem to be And I remember this, like even from when I was a kid, like viewing this conflict, like they're just it seems like there is a the way the mainstream media and the US or you know, the colonial media treats this story. It seems like Palestinian lives are worth worthless in the calculation, I mean, the US mainstream media.
We're also a nation built off the suffering of indigenous, black and brown bodies.
Yeah, you know that exactly.
We can't.
We can't, we will never, we would never want to define an amount of what that is worth or what the suffering is worth. So because we have our own shit, we refuse to reckon with We're not about the media is not about to.
Reckon with another nation shit like that.
It might maybe in the sense to say like, well the US is better, and that's just disingenuous, but you know, it's just it's just like it's that's just sort of a blind spot or a w WillFull blind spot that has to be, you know, maintained in order for like, you know, the moral high ground.
Of a nation to be. It's just, yeah, it's it's it's grim. Yeah, I don't know, it's a super grim like you said in the US as it released, the US like geist. You know, Trump is claiming on social media that the American taxpayer helped to fund the attacks on Israel, kind of in keeping with his strategy of taking the truth and saying the exact opposite. Yeah, or
at least like focusing on it. He's suggesting that youren funded Hamas using the six billion dollars in assets that they were that were recently unfrozen by the US in exchange for American prisoners.
That talking point was everywhere.
Yeah, this became the main like Republican talking point. And it's especially super because first of all, it wasn't tax paramoney. The six billion dollars was sitting in a South Korean bank and ode to a due to South Korean purchases of Iranian energy products. But their money was inaccessible purely because South Korea was concerned about following a foul of US sanctions. So that's yeah, yeah, that was money and like us kind of parked there.
It'll only be dispersed for very specific payments like like for you know, for like medicine, for food, those kinds of things. So and like then there's even Marjorie Taylor Green who tried to use this to be like it was Ukraine, like to keep like banging that drum, to be like to it was Ukraine armed them, and even Russian media pushed back.
They're like, uh, we have we have.
Nothing that would suggest that's remotely true, but I guess go off, Marjorie Taylor Green. Yeah, and yeah, again this is just a very it's like while too, because you see, like you see like people like Kylie Jenner like posted something like like all stand with and support of Israel and then getting absolutely torn down by like our followers and like.
You know a way, I'm like, yeah, I get it.
I mean, like, if you're not critically thinking in this country, you would think that maybe everything was fine in Israel and the fact that like you would take this very narrow perspective about like what the what the power dynamic is there and just be like, why.
Would Palestinian people do this to Israelis?
We have to stand with the Israelis and understand obviously the civilian death is fucking terrible. Yeah, And I think there's this other part that you just that is missed of, like how lopsided and imbalanced the violences in the direction towards Palestinian people. Like, dude, there's countless times I'm reading about Palestinian children getting killed, fucking journalists being killed by snipers or whatever, and it's like it's only on the margins of like like like global news sites or things
like that. It's not being talked to about on like MSNBC or whatever. And that has people in this like I don't know, they have this perception again that it's like they're Israel's just trying to do what they can with like this mess that they've been dealt or whatever.
But if you look at like I was on Al Jazeera and they had a graphic of showing like sort of what this civilian death toll has been for the roughly the last fifteen years up until this event, was that about forty five hundred Palestinian civilians have died in about three hundred Israeli citizens have died.
Just that's sort of what we're looking at.
And the coverage only goes really one way when it comes to.
This one direction.
Yeah, and again and because we haven't a verb. We saw this even with the war in Ukraine. When people look a little lighter in complexion, there's there's a little
bit more empathy. And yeah, so a lot of these people like sort of breathlessly take a lot of the you know, the propaganda that comes out of like Israel that sort of obscures what's going on, and they're like, yeah, I think this is good because I saw some people die, and it's like this is so much more complex and being like pick a side right now, I mean, I'm I'm,
I'm there's nothing that I will waver in. And when I look at the situation, I'm like, yeah, these people are fucking getting sheniicided in slow motion.
Yeah.
Uh, And again I don't know what the fuck.
Someone put a thing out like, uh it was like if Twitter existed in the eighteen hundreds and they're talking about the like Haitian uprising against the French and they're like, no idea, what happened here, Like he's innocent French people, blah blah blah. And they're like if Twitter existed then, because it's like what, Yeah, we're talking about enslavement. We're
talking about like people getting killed. And you look at the backstories of some of these people who join Hamas, like one of the commanders lost his fucking infant son, three year old daughter, and wife in like one fellow swoop in an airstrike and like that was this guy's radicalizing incident. And you're like, these are just there's just you're creating a fucking pressure book or that's gonna just blow up. And that's think like what every even like
leftists in Israel have been saying. They're like this is we're not fucking We're not safe. When we do this, and a lot of people are saying that, you know, people are going to be demanding answers because for all the money that's been spent two to like wall up the Gaza strip and things and have like anti tunneling sensor and things and nothing like.
They was really truly caught completely off guard.
And I think, like you know, most like sort of experts in the arena talk about it's like, yeah, this is going to bring some kind of paradigm shift. The fucked up thing is now that we're going to see even more loss of life for Palestini, innocent Palestinian people as well, because the response like out of the government in Israel has been like they're like op eds where they're like when genocide is okay kind of thing, it's
like we need to like level Gaza. And this is this is where it gets really fucked up because now you were I'm reading reports of like more US military hardware being sent to the region, and who knows where this goes because I don't think you send warships when you're trying to sort something out peacefully.
But again, this is this is sort of.
Like the ongoing terrible back and forth of just globally, not reckoning with what's been happening in the region.
Yeah and yeah, just back to like what is actually happening on the funding side, So that six million dollars, which again did not come from the United States, has not been touched because it's being closely monitored by the US. It's inaccessible like in a lot of ways, so none
of that money's actually been spent. The United States, meanwhile, has provided Israel with one hundred and fifty eight billion dollars in bilateral assistance and missile defense funding and helped to fund Julyes brutal assault on the West Bank that led to the deaths of like five children, which again is the sort of thing that doesn't get covered in our media.
But yeah, or even like even like when when the Hamas is saying, like this is why this is happening, Like I like the first reports like I was reading just didn't even say anything about that, about like the desecration of a mosque in Jerusalem, and like the continued confinement of the people of Causa and things like that. It's one of the most densely populated places on earth, Like two million people live there. Yeah, so yeah, we'll
see what the I mean. I'm sure we'll continue to talk about it, because the rhetoric is ramping up, and already we're sending so much money when we have our own fucking issues to deal with, to to continue to finance the oppression of people.
So yeah, yep, a lot going on this weekend, A lot going on.
Yeah, all right, let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about Demolition Man, and we're back and back. Demolition Man turned thirty today. Wow, one of my names has become demolition Man.
Thank you.
I saw this movie.
I remember on a school night my dad and I thought it was the most badass shit I could ever do. I just read one of like just some tidbits about like the making of this film that I had no idea.
Bits kid bits here, so.
You know, palate cleanser as we shift gears away from the dark oppression in the Middle East.
So originally Stephen.
Segal was supposed to star opposite Jean Claude van Dam. Jeann Claude van Dam was supposed to be Simon Phoenix, the Wesley Snipes part.
Luckily, Marco Brambia, who is the person who gave us the jaw dropping Utwo Sphere Visuals cast Stallone and Snipes instead because this was like this feels fucking dumb, like this was not feeling the.
Two of them, and then and junk Club Van dam are not really actors like the you know, like it's no, it would have just been as like our greatest actor.
But it's right right right, but like there's a you can see a little balance there. And then Wesley Snipes with his like high energy and blonde, you know, flat top and his love of karate kicking, You're like, yeah, this is great.
Stallone ain't kicking.
I mean, has he ever karate kicked someone? I don't think so.
I don't think every scene has ever been above knee level, like right right ryeah.
Like in terms of his normal like gait like jogging or something that's the highest his legs go. Yeah, that's like this is perfect. You can't get two kicky guys in there, no guy, Yeah, yeah, you need punchy guy. And then like witty kicky guy. And then also Lenina Huxley, who was the Sandra Bullock character was also originally cast. Uh like Lori Petty tank Girl was originally cast to play that part.
That actually made sense, that is like, oh, this character was inspired by her.
Yeah, that there's like an energy to it. But then apparently she and Stallone didn't get along. She described their dynamic against oil and water were used to loan Lloyd Betty. Yeah, like she and then again they were were like, okay, let's get this young upstart Sandra Bullock in here, which I didn't realize this was actually like the this was her first sort of huge step towards stardom.
And then I think speed came after this was like and then she was fully there.
So and I also didn't realize this was a kind of a comeback for Stallone with that movie. Oh yeah, yeah, he had it was some fallow years.
Yeah, it's always interesting. It's a I think it's the closest that Stallone came to successfully pulling off what like Schwartzeneger. You know, the eighties were defined by Schwarzenegger versus Stallone, and Schwarzenegger was always able to be in like the sci fi movies like Total Recall and Write Uh, Determinator Franchise, and Stallone it like you always have to rub up against Like the way he talks doesn't feel like it should be in the future. Yeah, but this this one
it worked out. It can't because the whole like premise of the movie is that he's not supposed to be uh from this time and he's supposed to be like an ally whoa.
And there's a nod to like this the Schwarzenegger rivalry when they're like the presidential the Schwarzenegger Presidential Library, like they mentioned it, you know, like there's a little tongue in cheek action.
Where do you think?
Okay?
I know, like people have said this was like a comeback film for him, So I'm trying to think what periods are we defining as the follow years? Like was it Rocky four was the beginning?
How where do you want to say this the fallow years? I mean, Rocky four is eighty five. That movie is like number one of the box office for so most of that year.
Cash was also, you know, wasn't that a hit?
Or am I just thinking because I saw the videotape everywhere that I was like, that movie is a hit.
Yeah, I don't know, like A stop for my Mom will shoot? Yeah. I think that and Oscar were around the same time.
Yeah, yeah, Oscar's nineteen ninety one, Stopper My Mom Will Shoot is nineteen ninety two. Then Cliffhanger Demolition Man.
Oh well, Cliffhanger was also like a major comeback that was like.
Yeah, yeah, yeah guy, So I think this is the beginning. So our guests we were just Rocky five. We fuck with Rocky five, and.
I think that's in l yeah. I think that counts as an l okay. Yeah. So, but like Judge, it was like he was always trying to move Oscar. Oscar is such a yeah, such a miss. So like the big thing that where he like fell off. So he was on this like Rocky four Cobra over the Top streak where it's like this guy can do no wrong.
People will watch him in a arm wrestling movie. And then Rambo three, which is the most expensive movie of all time up to that point, which you know relates to which also like the content of the movie relates to what we were talking about the main story in the news right now, because he like helps the muja Hadeen like fight off Imperial Russia, and people were like, huh,
we're not so into this political message. I don't know if that was the the reason it tanked, but that was that was like Vietnam Man, stick to killing Vietnamese people. Yeah they're approved, uh, but yeah, Rambo three was a big bomb. And then you have like Tango and Cash, Rocky five, Oscar Stopper, My Mom will shoot. And then in the same year he has Cliffhanger Demolition Man, which come back and really you know, are seems like all right,
he's back. But then up next is like The Specialist, Judge dread Assassins, which are all kind of not great daylight yeah, the Tunnel movie. But then yeah, yeah.
That movie fucked me up, like because isn't it about is it like about the Lincoln Tell Like is it.
Is it New York?
Yeah? I think so. Yeah, it's like one of the every one of these.
Every time I go like into one of those tunnels, I'm like, oh no, man, just like I have that trailer stuck in my mind since I was a kid.
So yeah, it's so funny that Dennis Leary is in Demolition Man because it kind of takes its whole moral core from like Dennis Leary bit yeah a lot of you. I think he does a bit like I think he does like run niked through the streets. Yeah, exactly.
Yeah, And a lot of people took that as like, oh, this is movies like libertarian, right, and they're like, no, no, that's not the main point.
I think it is funny. That's why, like it's viewers choice kind of.
For some people, if they want to hang on to the Dennis Leary character, then they're like, yeah, this movie's talking to me. Other people are like, oh, look at how opportunistic leaders are in a tragedy to try and consolidate power.
I think it is the larger message here, but.
Hey, it's up to you, folks if you want to eat a rat burger with your ass hanging out while you run through the streets and go ahead, buddy.
And finally, The Exorcist, the latest Exorcist sequel, came out, and people are pretending that it was like a disappointment because it only made twenty seven million dollars in the United States made forty five million globally. That seems like way more money than I would expect the movie, yeah to make.
We're still fucking with the Exorcist for real.
They haven't had a successful like they've had Exorcism movies, but they're not like sequels to The Exorcists, and like that franchise has been bad since the like the first one is a classic, and then everything after that, like the the second one is like famously bad, and like, I guess Exorcists three is supposed to be good, but I don't know, Like I think a lot of people were scary. Either way, I'm not it.
Yeah, in general, I'm not fucking with like Exorcisms, you know, Exorcist movies.
I don't like fucking scary movies.
I kind of feel like a waste of time for me when I'm like, yeah, I'm already in a state of fright all right, existing in the world.
I don't need to compound that with the Exorcists.
But then when I read how much money fucking Warner Brothers paid to fucking own the rights.
Just to own the rights, they paid four hundred million dollars, so I.
Guess they're a quarter nearly a quarter of their way earning it back.
But but then the movie costs thirty million to produce. This is the best opening for an Exorcist movie ever. But like everyone's like this, this one's tanked, guys. And the reason that people think it tanked is wokeness because
there's a line in the movie. So there's a line in the movie where Ellen Burston's character says, like, talking about the first movie, so Elan Burston was the mom and the first Exorcist, I believe, and she was like, they wouldn't let me in to like watch the Exorcist Exorcism, I guess. And then another character is like, why not, She says, my opinion, because I'm not a member of their damn patriarchy. W Yes, well man, you go broke, dude. I mean it is like the line is so bad.
It is like the worst version of woke signaling bullshit where you just like give a cartoon version of a feminist take right, you will be shocked to learn that it is directed by a man and written by three men. So so woke.
That's what's woke, though, because I'm able to I'm able to actually comment on patriarchy as a person who's part of it, you see.
That's why I'm getting points.
But Jesus Man, four hundred million is such a we're we're so screwed, Like there's no no one likes an original fucking idea so much copycat ship.
What what rights are they buying, we get these rights? Okay, Well don't I got rights? Hey, don't I got something original on the screen?
Five?
Come on? Yeah, Rocky six? Is that six? Yeah? That is it? No? I don't know?
Or is that is that Rocky Balboa is technically Rocky six?
Yeah, it's the one where he like wants to box someone.
Yeah.
They're like, dude, you're too old, You're too old, You're gonna die. Don't got rights?
And they're like, oh, you know what, You're right, you do, Okay, go ahead, die in the ring, sir.
But yeah, the new one's got absolutely terrible reviews, not just from film critics but from our very own superducer Victor, who says, the new one is so bo.
That's the five ring boring. Uh oh, you're getting a fib.
Ring boring rating. Nah, man, that's not good.
Five o's on that one. Don't do it.
And then we do have a new Halloween decoration taken over. It's targets Lewis Lewis, Yeah, what the fuck is Lewis? So it goes for one hundred and eighty dollars, already sold out in most stores, and the the overall like reason that people are fucking with Lewis is because he seems to have attitude like he has he will talk to you.
And I'm sorry, this is their king.
Yes, this thing, this is Janki's ship, but he has sass and.
Target.
Target will not comment on Lewis's backstory, but people people are saying, like, is Lewis giving l G B t Q vibes? Is that? Like? What's going on? Because do we have can we play the clip? I think it's in the in the dock, Yeah, the clip is right there.
What I am not a Jack o Lantern? I thought it was like some roots ship. Your name is Toby, but that's was not what was going on. My name is Lewis.
I'm okay, all right, Lewis, go ahead, do you sir?
Over there? It's not near me. I'll say you are Jack o Lantern? Sorry, man, you got a big pumpkinhead and face carved in.
I don't know what your definition of jack O'Lantern is, but it's fucking you man, it's you, and I hate the.
I am not a person. My name is jack It's like, yeah, no, but like that, so those things are both true. You are actually a person and you have a name, but no, I'm Jack.
I'm a Jack, right, Oh okay, sure, I mean this is I gotta say, this is a pretty weak offering compared to the even the fucking Werewolf, Like I picked the Werewolf over this ship.
Yeah, this is not their best work and not a chance, not that anybody has a chance of getting it at the original listing press. And you're fine.
You're fine not getting the thing.
You could almost quite literally make out of buying a big old plastic jack O lantern and going to fucking and just putting some black sheets on it and then put some wrang skeleton hands on it and look at you.
Now you have your own, your very own Lewis. It does look like it was happening, like it was almost like the point is like it's a thing that two movie characters have put together to spook some people or something, right, like in a movie. Yeah, like like the head leaning for.
Kevin McAllister joint Kevin.
Kevin McAllister original.
Yeah.
Anyways, but I love it if Lewis gives people, you know, strength, if Lewis is giving people inspiration and uh, you know, giving people options. When the twelve foot Skeleton has sold out, which it has been all fall at home depot. Yeah, missed my window, man, I was so close, Like I better talk it over with my wife as a big purchase. By the time we had talked it over and I had cried until she let me buy it, it was
sold out. So it was like a wour window. And I cried, you know when I cry, so like try and get a way. It goes on a long time in USA.
I'm a jack o' lantern. I am all right.
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