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The First WeekTrender of November 11/6: Trumpdictment, Gaza, Israel, The Simpsons, Marks & Spencer

Nov 06, 202346 minSeason 312Ep. 1
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In this edition of The First WeekTrender of November, Jack and Miles discuss their respective weekends, a Trumpdictment update and his almost assured return to the White House, more news on the Gaza Invasion, the Simpsons going woke, and Marks & Spencer's controversial new Christmas ad!

1. With the world on fire, a cowardly, timid news media is a threat to U.S. democracy (inquirer.com)

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Speaker 1

Hello the Internet, and welcome to this special week Trend edition, first Week Trender of November. It's Monday, November sixth. I'm Jack the right. There is Miles Gray.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yep, yep, yep. How you doing good? It's It's week season three one two three one two three twelve. Shout out Chicago. Hey there we go. Yep.

Speaker 1

What how do the big cities get like all the best area because is it because they were the first ones to to the area code get to need them?

Speaker 2

What do you mean?

Speaker 1

Two one three two one two is New York?

Speaker 2

Two three is l A. There's in Chicago. Yeah, I don't, I don't. I don't know. I've never really thought it'd be like, man, that's a good area code. Man, I get that, just feel it's like the first ones you would come up with. Yah, you know, like much in the same way, like like I'm I'm repping the eight one eight, But it's not like because I'm like and that ship is like the objectively a really good combo of numbers. That's just the name of the area code. So I'll just yell that out. I mean, yeah, but

I don't know. Let us know. If you are an expert in area code distribution. I grew up enough.

Speaker 1

I've won three in Dayton, Ohio, so shout out.

Speaker 2

Okay, I have one three? What was it in Wheeling, West Virginia. I don't I was.

Speaker 1

You know, you were using the phone six, so using the phone all that much?

Speaker 2

But all right, all right.

Speaker 1

I also I feel like that was at a time when everybody I knew was close enough that you never had to know the area code.

Speaker 2

You know, you just had to holler out your window. Huh exactly. I get it.

Speaker 1

I go down into the gulch, down into the holler. Why they call it that, man, it's the hollow.

Speaker 2

Yeah. All right.

Speaker 1

Uh, Well, we're going to get into some of the things that are happening. I believe Donald Trump is on the on the stand as we're recording this.

Speaker 2

We'll talk about that. We'll talk about all sorts of bad news, all manners of news, good and bad and in between. But before we get to any of that, we do like to.

Speaker 1

Let our guests get to know us a little bit better and tell them what we're guests, but our listeners.

Speaker 2

So I like that maybe I should start you are our guests here?

Speaker 1

Yeah, maybe I should start with my overrated, because I think it'll explain why words are being misplaced and substituted. My overrated is getting that extra hour of sleep, the fallback. Yes, we get to sleep in tomorrow morning.

Speaker 2

This is.

Speaker 1

You know, it gets me every time it lures me in. I'm like, ah, well, get an extra hour this weekend. All my problems are over. But this all over only true for people who wake up to an alarm clock, which has not been true of me for close to a decade. Certainly hasn't been true uh since my kids have been around. And my kids just wake up when their bodies tell them to, and now their bodies tell them to wake up at five am instead of six am. Yeah, and there you are, dad, Dad, they're your asses.

Speaker 2

What the fuck? Yeah? Did you do the thing where you you you went to bed later on Saturday night because you like, we get that hour full well knowing you're not getting a fucking extra hour. Yeah, I think we did do that a little bit. I did that too. Yeah, Yeah, yeah, I'm you know, I even I'm trying to think too, Like last year, even before the baby was born, like

it wasn't quite hitting the same. It hasn't really because as I got older, like my fucking Circadian Like they're just like it just works, like it's just like, yeah, bro, you're up, like you're sorry. I don't care if it's as six or and you have three extra hours, like you're up.

Speaker 1

Sorry to tell you this, but you're up for the rest of the morning. And then like anytime I try and fight it and like stay in bed, then it's just like anxiety hour, you know, it's just like, oh, you're just laying there and your brain is going and your body is not, and yeah, exactly the worst moments.

Speaker 2

Yeah, just the fucking up dude, you want to leave your kids? Man? Yeah, maybe why do what I should do?

Speaker 1

I should check Twitter in bed, maybe that'll give me some good ideas.

Speaker 2

And instead it's just yeah.

Speaker 1

Don't I'm tired, not doing great from a mental health perspective, but uh, it's Monday. It's time to make the donuts.

Speaker 2

You know what I'm saying, Time to make the donuts. You know, fu fuck your life, It's time to make the donuts. That's right. So my mother always said on a Monday morning, overrated. Allow me to fucking put my rabid sports fan cap on for a moment and just say video refereeing technology is absolutely overrated. It's especially if

you don't fucking use it. Now. I'm talking about this in this specifically about obviously in the context of my beloved Arsenal Football club, but like soccer football has embraced video technology to like help refs make on field decisions

because sometimes the ref can only look one way. People are doing dirty shit behind their back and sometimes it ends up in a no call and people are like, y'all can't miss this kind of shit, or goal line technology that says like did the ball fully cross the line? Did it go out of bounds? Things like that that

would help adjudicate on field decisions. But like in over the last this season, especially that just started in August, there's been like weekly critical errors where the organization that like sort of represents the officials of the game are like just giving apologies or like, ooh, sorry about that. Definitely shouldn't have been a goal arm mad and I know you guys lost because of that, but that that's

kind of on us. And I was like, oh, sorry, we missed that horrible foul that definitely should have been a red card. Oh god, we hate we just hate that and just like you're getting apologies for like, yeah, very high stakes matches and fans are just getting like so fucking fed up. But like it's really I'm only just sort of you know, up in arms right now because over the weekend, like Arsenal's on the receiving and

Ino's some terrible fucking calls. Like I'm just gonna show you when Jack you don't even have to see, like understand soccer to know that, like one of our players just got fucking decked in the back of his head with an elbow and the REP was just a no call, and like their video assistant referee has helped made to like prevent this kind of shit. That's this guy Brunogi

Mari is about hit throw an elbow boom right there. Okay, now yeah, let's slow that down so you can see from other not subtle at all, just take that shit to your head. And people were like, yeah, that's maybe

that's that's violent conduct. But there's like this there's a tension I feel like where there's like the human airs involved, where the officials are having trouble reconciling their own human errors that are like as clear as day that the video shows that, so then like we're just seeing moments are like they just ignore the video and then just back the decision on the field, and you're like, what the fuck is the point of having these extra like

objective eyes if you won't use them? Right? And yeah, so thank you for that presentation.

Speaker 1

By the way, I'll stand up in a in a room with with a pointer.

Speaker 2

He's dressed fully in a suit. Yeah, I had never no hat everything. It's just very replica of the suit worn by Kevin Costner. N JFK.

Speaker 1

Okay, you picked up on that subtle how are they fucking up the like whether the ball has crossed the plane thing?

Speaker 2

Isn't that that feels like that's just straightforward? Yeah, things like okay, so there was. For an example, there's a Manchester United player named Marcus Rashford who like the ball crossed the line and like the angles were like kind of inconclusive from v you could say like, oh, I could see it go either way. They backed the refs and they're like it's They're like, nope, that's clearly out

of bounds. Yeah, and then this week a ball went out and they're like, oh, it's kind of inconclusive, but the reps are like that app there's like, sorry, man, there's not enough evidence to say conclusively. So you're just like left with, well, what what version is it? Like it's conclusive when you don't have all the angles, and when you do, it's not, So what the fuck is

it going to be? Yeah, So it just like it's just wild too, because like what they do is they they will release the audio of like there's like a whole video refereeing app or like a truck like a center where they like like they're communicating with the referee on the field, like like looking at all these monitors, and they release the radio chatter where you can hear them deliberate it. And there was like this one goal that happened in a Liverpool match a few weeks ago.

Or they're like, I think that's that. That's that's a goal, and they're like, yeah, but he counted it. It's it's he said it's a no goal. It's like yeah, but but it went in and you hear them he's like it's too late. Now he blew the whis so like they already kicked it off, So I guess we're just gonna have to count it. And you're like, wow, the fuck, just stop the fucking if it's a goal, stop the game.

So they just look foolish at every end, and it's it's just interesting to see how like technology is like at first like this will help make things better, and now you're like it's somehow even fucking worse than when you didn't have it, Like fine, whatever.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I've noticed with basketball and football when sometimes it becomes like a philosophical question, like yeah, it breaks down into like well, what is the intent of the rule, and like you need to have like philosophical discussions about it. It's it's really interesting that like the closer you look at a given play, like the more it just like breaks down really.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and you're like what is out of bounds? And at that moment, really how much? Because it gets to find you know, Like it's interesting. I feel like in football, like when you break the plane, you it's like it doesn't have to be anything else. You have to break

the plane with the ball. Like with soccer, the ball has to be completely over the line for it to be out of bounds, so like it can look like the center of the ball that is actually contacting the ground on the other side of the line might just be close enough that the edge of the ball is technically like still on the same plane. Yeah, and it and it lends itself to a lot of interesting debates.

But yeah, anyway, and even did we just talk about the how like umpires are like we didn't actually get to that story.

Speaker 1

Franke zone is just like completely uh subjective essentially, and they're just like yeah, but like it's contitable. It's like, oh, I thought I thought there was this like objective box that the ball had.

Speaker 2

Really yeah, really get the robots in here.

Speaker 1

Uh my underrated science fares. Oh I had heard tell of these, but like my family growing up, I guess was not big science fair family.

Speaker 2

Wait did you never do didn't you have to do them for school? Like you didn't do a school science fair like you had?

Speaker 1

I guess we did, And maybe it was just that the school science fair that we did at the time was like somewhat half asked, like where I was at that stage.

Speaker 2

So we had to be at.

Speaker 1

UCLA yesterday and for a thing with my seven year old and there was a science fair going on put on by like UCLA's various science departments, and it was really fucking cool.

Speaker 2

It was just like also like UCLA sh yeah, but.

Speaker 1

Like they it's like the scientists who work in all these different labs and ship are challenged to come up with stuff with I guess students because it seems like they were like undergrads manning the booth as well, and like they are challenged to come up with stuff that would like be cool for kids, you know, and they didn't always succeed, but like the ones that succeeded, Like there was the one that started out as just one of the booths and eventually took over the hole the

whole science fair where it was just uh taking a film canister like you know, the like little cylindrical.

Speaker 2

Top. Yeah, they have like a top that kind of sticks on pretty well because you.

Speaker 1

Don't want it to open up and exposure film, thank you. And then you put half an el alcus elz and then pour a little water, like make sure the lid's on tight, shake it up, and then just like put it lid facing down, oh yeah, and then watch it just explode up into the sky and.

Speaker 2

It never got hold.

Speaker 1

Like every kid who did it felt like they were discovering something like even though they were in a line like twenty people watching it happen, it happened, repeated, yeah, yeah, And then they got to do it and every single time everyone's like, oh.

Speaker 2

It was so dope.

Speaker 1

And then there were they also had like solar telescopes set up, and so I got to I think for the first time in my life, Like I think, I got to look directly at the Sun, which is what I was missing. I mean doing that but like right, but in a way that didn't blind me for the next three to four days.

Speaker 2

But yeah, I got to just stare at the Sun.

Speaker 1

You can see the little like waves coming off of it, and yeah, suns, the corona, saw the corona?

Speaker 2

Bro it is it on one side? Like does the sun rotate? I don't know, ship bro, Like is it always visibly like I'm sure if it?

Speaker 1

If it was time lapse, I was not able to turn my brain into time laps at the moment. But yeah, it was really cool. Shout out to u c l A's science department.

Speaker 2

Coming back around again. Yeah for the people of the sun.

Speaker 1

Yeah, so that that's my underrated If you can, you can go to like a science fair at a local college or something.

Speaker 2

I had even as in a, well, it'll fuck you up. Yeah, I remember. I was super into it when I used to do like videos for Wired magazine and just would like visit labs or like they would show us stuff. I was just always blown away when they're like I did one where we were like it was like the science of fireworks about like how you get how you get it blue spark or whatever, and just went to this chemistry lab at UCLA where there's like mixing shit. Oh my god, and he's like, do you need to

have sound? I'm like, it's fine, there's gonna be no sound so I can audibly yeah, fucking gasp. But all the cool shit, do you need to leave the room? Sir? The way went green then blue? What the fuck? Well, it's just because of the chemicals we're using, I know. But how you do that? Forget? I don't know what that means. It's magic underrated, let's see. Oh you know what. Biking just I'm gonna upset it once. I'll say it again, I'll say it many times. The first reason is because

welcome to the dad cast. The guys. Child is now old enough to be in one of those bike seats that you throw on back, so we did a nice casual ride, but then later on my mom came through and was watching him, and so we were gonna go to a friend's birthday party and went to a spot that normally takes like about fifteen minutes to drive. We're like, fuck it, man, let's fucking ride bikes there. We got lights and shit like high Viz whatever, Like we're good

even if it's dark, like we'll be fine. Yeah, And it's just the most I just can't tell you. It's so enjoyable. And biking has been one of those things I've dreaded because as a kid growing up in LA, like biking in LA was basically doing like live action Frogger on a bike, except I'm like ten years old and almost dying. So like I always had a healthy like m are there, Like if there's bike lanes and infrastructure, I'm all in. But like sometimes on the La streets,

I'm not as courageous. But now there's so many ways to like map a root, so you don't like can avoid super busy streets and biking through places that you normally just wouldn't be on a bike because like you're taking like these main roads and shit in a car, Like, it's such a good way to like engage with your community or at least visually see like where you live in a way that just isn't possible in a car.

And it's nice you put a little have your little bluetooth speaker play some jams, have a nice chat, take some like quiet streets so you don't have to worry about fucking cars flying at you and being like completely unsafe. So I just want to challenge everybody listening if you're able to, like and you have all the equipment you need and shit, just like swap out a place you normally drive to and just ride your bike or like

take a city bike or whatever. Doesn't have to be a fucking ridiculous distance, but something that you know, like that's normal to you. Try the bike version and it's I don't know, I just it's a feels good, feels good, Like to your point about mental health, I need to like move my body sometimes to feel better and feel like the air on my face and shit, and then yeah, a good salve.

Speaker 1

One of the best, Yeah, in your whole energeography, Like you know, there's a cool thing that the brain does un like without us really noticing is like make the map of the world around you. But I feel like when you're just hopping in your car, even if you are doing the driving, it's like just getting car here and show up here. But like when when you ride your bike or like walk or you know, do something like that, it's a whole different It's good to have that variety.

Speaker 2

Oh yeah. And also like I feel like when you drive, like when I'm on the freeway, I'm like, shit, on the other side of the freeway wall might as well not exist because I'm just traversing through here, like I don't it's not real to me.

Speaker 1

And you do ride your bike on the freeway sometimes, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. The lights on your bike you've said, are designed by the same people who designed lighthouses, and.

Speaker 2

Exactly exactly it does. Unfortunately, I guess blind other drivers.

Speaker 1

About the whole path. Everyone's just pulling over and closing their eyes.

Speaker 2

Sounds like an insurance scam to me, Man's just fucking get that insurance money.

Speaker 1

But to your point about like biking in urban areas, like some of them memories like when I am lying in bed and in the morning or at night, when you know, sleep isn't coming. So one of the things that I think about often is like, yeah, I can't believe I didn't die there. And it's a lot of things I did while I was like drunk or something. But also riding my bike in New York City and like being in between a car and a bus that is like drifting over and I've got like my arm on the bus like kind of.

Speaker 2

So be careful out there, but it is. Yeah, it can be really lovely. Yeah, it can be really lovely, true truer words.

Speaker 1

Yeah, all right, should we take a little break and come back. All right, we'll be right back, and we're back. And Trump is on the stand right now. All reports from inside the courtroom indicate that he is being exactly what you would expect.

Speaker 2

Paying attention to him for the past decade or so.

Speaker 1

He's just like combative, evasive when it comes to answering any questions, completely impossible to control. Heading it like, it's kind of amazing that we're still in this rhythm. We're heading in the mainstream, covers like this is a historical wondering if he'd like take the fifth or approach the judge like on the judge's terms, basically, but he's been, he's just every chance he has to testify, like he ignores the question and just like rants about how rich is.

It's like in a trial where it's like this guy inflates his own value in a way that is illegal and fraudulent.

Speaker 2

He's just doing that like on the stand. Yeah, like are other things like when they're talking about like these financial statements, He's like, I mean, look, it says it's a worth a statement clause, so these aren't really documents makes paid attention to him, And the judge's been like, I've already told you that that is not an actual excuse or defense in here. So I don't know what the reason is you're saying it. And so that's the kind of shit he's doing. He's just like, I don't

care if I don't give a fuck. I'm this is my reality. You can try and fucking alter it, but this is what I'm saying, and I don't know, I don't care if it doesn't make sense or is even legally viable as a defense at this point.

Speaker 1

Yeah, And it's just in the same way that he challenged what a mainstream political candidate could get away with saying uh and just being like openly racist, and everyone's like, well,

that'll sink him. And it doesn't like he's doing that in a courtroom with like the judge, Like he's attacking the judge and claim it's all a big plot against him, it like, and the judge has like issued an order that he like shouldn't attack, that he can't like attack him, and the judge keeps being like, lawyers, you better control your client or I will. But then like and do what exactly it's a.

Speaker 2

Real and what for what?

Speaker 1

The judge says, uh, not to say a thing? Trump says the thing. The judge seems frustrated, and then they take a recess and come back. And since they came back from the break quote, Judge Arthur Engern has appeared more restrained in his criticisms of Trump. He has stayed silent for most of Trump's testimony. Right, so, yeah, be

treating it like a political rally. And I don't know, this is at a time when we'll we'll, I guess keep talking about this with a there's pulling out that suggests that he is like on on his.

Speaker 2

Way path to victory, on his way home to white home yeah or house. Yeah, I mean, it's interesting to see, like how I don't know if they're trying to do this too, like maybe you know, obviously incite the judge to try and get to try and appeal and be like this judge was just hostile to us the whole, right,

I mean like look at it, look at it. I mean, obviously we provoked him, but like that's I feel like probably another potential last ditch legal strategy is to try and just get the judge to blow up, and then how are we ever going to get a fair trial with this dude responding to our provocations like this?

Speaker 1

So yeah, I don't know, but yeah, it's it's a judge, like the judges determining what happens here. It's not a jury trial, so he's not like out here proving a point to a jury. He's like kind of sparring with the guy who's ultimately going to make the decision here, and I guess he's just trying to undermine the credibility

of that decision ultimately. But this was kind of the first time that I was like, oh, yeah, none of none of the stuff, Like when people are being like, wait, so he'll be elected president and sentenced to jail time, and it's like he's not gonna do like he will flagrantly use his power and influence to avoid going to prison, like it will just be a complete undermining of the judicial system.

Speaker 2

Like that's yeah, like this is we've already said to like in you know, his judge, like one of his lawyers was like, he has a secret Service, he can't go to jail or whatever, like sort of making it seem like the Secret Service would prevent him from like being taken away to jail. It's more so like reconciling. What do you do when someone has Secret Service protection for life and then they have to go to jail. Yeah, they do. They join the Nirtagno's gang prison gang to

part of his protection. Detail. I don't know, we don't know, but yeah, those that's the White House arrest exactly, Like what the fuck is it? Yeah, the polling We'll get.

Speaker 1

To that in a second, but yeah, I mean detail that like that. There was a headline that was like a New York Times article that was like a conviction might sink Trump And then when you like look at the numbers of this latest polling that is like dismal for Biden. It's like a six percent swing. Six percent of voters about like across all these poles are like, yeah, I might switch to Biden if Trump gets convicted, Like six percent, it's like such a small number, and you're

assuming that they're actually going to stick there. It is, got him, got his ass, fine, they don't give a fight.

Speaker 2

He is what he does. They liked what he stands for. He want they want him to bring on the Ethno state. That's what they're fucking with. So again, like we said, unless he becomes anti Ethno state, suddenly he's not going to do ship. Yeah. Oh man, but we'll see, man, we'll see, We'll see, we'll see. I mean it would be interesting because at a certain point, I'm sure that like the media, that even right wing media would try and figure out a way like is this actually the

best thing? Like do we just try and have this guy be like hey, man, we got to vote for him. He's gonna go to jail, or be like this is like what how are we going to fucking do anything? Yo? But I don't think they care. We've seen where their heads are at. So hey, one day at time, one day at a time, one day.

Speaker 1

It's gonna be weird. Yeah, elsewhere, not in the US. Just so much horrifying news coming out of Gaza.

Speaker 2

But one truly.

Speaker 1

Horrific absurdity from this weekend that is worth mentioning is the Israeli Heritage Minister was asked in an interview about a hypothetical nuclear option and responded, that's one way, which even like mainstream Israeli broadcasters were like, wait, what the fuck did you just say?

Speaker 2

You said there's a nuclear option. There's one way to I mean it could be. I mean it's to the point where like even Nan Yaho's office like they like they hooked him. They're like, Okay, now this guy's gone. He didn't know what he's talking about. He doesn't need to say anything any or anymore out loud. Yeah, And then this dude tried to backpedal, yeah, and said his comment was metaphorical, right, and he's like, it was metaphor.

I said metaphorically drop an atom bomb on me. And I'm like, is this one of the few times that's saying it was metaphorical as a defense is actually worse.

Speaker 1

Right, because they are metaphorically already doing that in terms of like the tonnage of explosions that are being dropped on guys already.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, right exactly, Like what the twenty five hundred sum ton or twenty five thousand tons of explosives that have already been dropped equals two nuclear bombs? Yeah, And I'm like, what are you saying? Like, I don't want to literally use an atom bomb on innocent Palestinians, but it's like a nice metaphor to describe how I desire to kill massive amounts of innocent civilians. Yes, like what the fuck?

Speaker 1

Yeah, and discriminate, Yeah, it's wild.

Speaker 2

And then then after that, like after this guy was suspended, uh Netan Yahu's office is like saying, like, you know, the IDF is quote operating in accordance with the highest standards of international law. Holy shit, are you for real right now? Because all these experts on international law are saying that you guys are running completely a foul of

those norms. Yeah, but here we are. And then like, you know, just sort of to bring the focus back to the US, right, we're still seeing like retribution against people that are vocally opposed to Israel's ethnic cleansing campaign, Like two writers at the New York Times surprise, were ousted for signing an open letter that condemned the ongoing

genocidal actions of the Israeli government. Yeah, and it's like sort of against this backdrop, there was a really good opinion piece in the Philadelphia in Choir actually that will link to in the footnotes. That's kind of encapsulates a lot of I feel like what we talk about on this show about like the media is unable to contend with anything that's happening right now, like at all, and it's honestly costing us what's left of you know, this

so called quote unquote American democracy, whatever this is. But like, if speaking truth to power is there is reason to be forced to resign from a newspaper, we might as well just let Trump move into the White House now, right, Like mainstream media can barely say words like white supremacy or call racist actions racist without carering in fear of

right wing backlash. And we Trump has made it clear if when he is in power again, he will go scorched earth on everything like the media, activist groups, district attorneys, judges, And he hasn't hid the fact that he and his allies are preparing like groups of craven lawyers to do exactly that.

Speaker 1

So you're like, my entire career has been is just attacking anybody who opposes him in court, so exactly just be a complete cluster fuck.

Speaker 2

Like and currently, right, the media can't even bring itself to use words like ethnic cleansing. And this is when like human rights groups and experts in the very subject are screaming at the top of their lungs that these atrocities are at the very least war crimes, yes, if not the textbook definition of ethnic cleansing. Right. And that's but then you'll see, like you know again just sort of like this back and forth, like the both sidesing

of it. Like, but sometimes they'll use the word like the words of these human rights groups to paint like an adversary of the US, and that's why they're bad in sanctions and fighting. Right, But in this sense, let's just completely ignore everything, right, So I don't know, I mean, like the push Like, I don't know how the media will push back against a full on fascist takeover of the government if they can't even like use the right

words to describe things push back on anything. Right now, The Washington Post wrote a puff piece on speaker Mike Johnson, Like we told you this guy is from the cave era of like Christian norms. Okay, Like it's not even like no Q. He thinks the world is six thousand years old. Yeah, and him and his son there was like leaked audio about how him and his son used that app Covenant Eyes to make sure nobody's.

Speaker 1

They actually I saw that they like he talked about how they kind of compare notes on like Nott and.

Speaker 2

How they're doing great. We're both not just stroking it job. We're doing great.

Speaker 1

D just checking in hope you're good. I haven't jacked off yet.

Speaker 2

Yep, all right, I love your son. Don't check off, dad. But like this piece in the Washington Post is called quote howse speaker Mike Johnson's Louisiana hometown guided by faith and family. Oh cool, this is wow. These guys are Christo fascists. Yeah, but we're doing this whole thing of like oh and it's like quaint and he's like he

doesn't like yell a lot, so it's okay. So I just think it's really bad because I think the mainstream perspective, especially in the US, is to just ignore everything that is going wrong with the United States. Like that's why Biden's polls are in the shitter right now, and his own advisors and other like you know, consultants like on the big d democratic like campaign machine are saying shit like, oh, the second term is in the bag already, Like, don't

worry about these poles. Don't worry about these poles. It's in the fucking bag. Yeah, and it's you're just like what planet are you all on?

Speaker 1

Yeah, it's it really like I saw some of the like crooked guys coming coming forward and being like, well, no, I think I think there's a lot of work to do, but like we just need to remind him of like remind everybody of his accomplishments and stuff like that.

Speaker 2

But just like totally ignoring or how scary the Trump We got to remind people how scary the Trump presidency is going to be. That is so cynical, right, you know what, not to completely ignore people who are like I don't know, Like I also see some people see their vote as like a part of their like like they're endorsing the morality of a candidate or something, you know what I mean. Like that that's how they're tied to things, but they don't see that happening. I just don't.

I really, It's just really scary, like whether or not, you know, you want to vote for Biden, to think that you can look at everything that's happening in the United States and have the tone be like we're good, babe, We're good guys. That is definitely not going to help people who want Biden to have another term at all,

you know what I mean. It's just like so wild, Like you know, it's like they don't want to acknowledge again that this country, like they we would rather put the emphasis on like students that made a fundraiser for their sick teacher rather than acknowledge how broken our healthcare system is and how how underpaid the very people were

counting on to educate our kids are. Or they want to ignore that we are a party to genocide right now, or they want to ignore that we will let our children die from gun violence and do fuck all about it, and they want to ignore violent inequality. It's like they just it feels like they don't want to get their hands dirty with like talking about that shit. Yeah, but the fact is most of us are already in the muck.

So just fucking acknowledge it rather than do this like rhetorical gas lighting, because that's not this like us in the bag talk is such a such a smack in the face to people who really need help, who really need things to change urgently.

Speaker 1

Yeah, in terms of like what because they're David Actel Rudd, who is like one of Obama's like main campaign advisor people, is like saying that Biden shouldn't run, but like the Democratic Party in general, like who are they advocating instead of Biden?

Speaker 2

Because they're not. No one said anything, right, So it's just, you know, other than that, it's like, you know, Cornell West is running, is a third party person, and that

that's already gonna. That's already gonna. I don't know who knows what attack mode they go into, because we've seen what happens when progressives people who are to the left of like a Democratic candidate, what happens there the media treatment is there, Yeah, but I mean it's it's truly one of those things where it's like I think a lot of people are trying to figure out how are they going to use their leverage as voters to try and get something to work in the right way, and

a lot of people feel very cynical right now. And it doesn't help when you have like the people who are like whispering into the president's E're like, don't worry about it, don't worry about it, don't worry. These are just haters. These are just haters. These are just haters. But like, you know, I have a feeling in the next month, you're going to see more and more pieces being written up about is it bad for Biden right now?

You know, like progressive outlets have been saying that, yeah, but I'm it's like going to get to the point where, like with this polling now this has been like a huge news piece where everyone's like, holy shit, like he's leading in the five swing states that you.

Speaker 1

Need down the barrel of another Trump presidency.

Speaker 2

Right and then and then but then you see like a lot of the mainstream coverages to be like, well, people just got to be reminded how bad it will be with Trump, right. But yeah, I'm I'm sorry because because the mass shootings went away since the Biden administration, because like medical debt has like been completely erased because of Joe Biden, And I get that there are things that are improving. But that's the whole point of being a voter and having a vote. They're courting your support.

So if you say I actually need these things and you're ignored, that's not good. That's not a winning strategy.

Speaker 1

I feel like their answer is going to ultimately be to like replace Kamala Harris with somebody else on the ticket, you know, just blame it on her.

Speaker 2

Basically, Oh my god, that would be so text book. That was to the point that makes what the Democratic Party is going to do. Yeah, just blame this woman of color for this guy failures as a president or perceived failures. I'm like, let's not let's not go. Let's not see too far into the future non white yet. Okay, we got a good news cycle out of better too. Yeah, yeah, all.

Speaker 1

Right, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back, and we're back. We're back, all right. A couple lighter bullshit stories. Homer Simpson will no longer strangle Bart Simpson.

Speaker 2

H fucking Simpson's gone woke too, now, am I You're right? The wokes I didn't realiz. Okay, it's great.

Speaker 1

So the detail about the story, my mind, The thing that blew my mind, was that like he was still doing it in like the twenty nineteen twenty twenty season, Like there's a part in the last time was a Homer choking Bart and like Millhouse is there and like cowering in fear. Oh no, yeah, it's it's uh, I don't know. It's pretty crazy.

Speaker 2

It never went away, which is kind of funny. I think it's always been a thing people are like, is that we're still doing that, like choking to the point that your tongue is coming out of your mouth like it does whenever they depict that in The Simpsons. Yeah, but like now they on the show. Now they're like saying it out loud that it's done.

Speaker 1

Yeah. In a recent episode, someone compliments Homer's firm grip and he responds, uh, see marg strangling the boy paid off, and then ads, just kidding, I don't do that anymore. Times have changed, oh, which which almost feels times have changed. That's weird because time hasn't changed within the show. Yeah, I have aged from being bar age too older than Homer at the beginning of the show, right, isn't he in his thirty Like he's like.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and pop culture references have gone through like you know, hundreds of cycles, multiple like seven presidential administrations, but the characters within the show have remained the same age.

Speaker 2

Oh okay, someone has actually pointed out he was thirty four in the early episodes, thirty six in season four, Wow, thirty eight, and thirty nine in season eight, and then ten years later in season eighteen became forty. Okay, Oh, so maybe he is aging a little bit, but at a at a rate I can't even do the map, Like I don't even understand the proportions based on per season at this point. It's like you aged two years in one season and then eight ten years. Are you

aged one year after ten seasons? Yeah?

Speaker 1

How does it convert to like dog years? It feels like the opposite of dog years.

Speaker 2

Yeah, almost like age at like point trees, Like if Homer has aged six years from the early episodes up to season eighteen, then it then I feel that I'm really sorry. I think Maggie has some kind of she might need some help, she might need to see it for sure. And the other kid, she's still small, like they're in the same grade essentially, right, Like it's not yeah, they Bart has hit puberty or anything. But yeah, I don't know.

Speaker 1

I'm sure there's a good fan theory about the purgatory that they all exist inside, So hit us up Zychang if you know of some good some good theory. But yeah, so they've been struggling with this one for a while, like all the way back in season twenty two, there was an episode in which Paul Rudd tries to cure Homer of his abusive ways, and it just like didn't work.

Speaker 2

Cure Homer of cure them of their or Paul.

Speaker 1

But it's caused, of course, people to jokingly say that the Simpsons has gone woke, and then a lot of other people ball saying the exact same thing but completely seriously, Yeah, the Simpsons has gone woke. So yeah, it's funny because Simpsons.

Speaker 2

Who, like real Simpsons fans are just being using the sarcasm of like, I can't believe it, my Simpsons has gone woke, And then other people were like you see these takes on Twitter, like is I guess the Simpsons are about to go broke, right because they've gone woke? And then you're like, okay, cool American flag emojis in your displaying name.

Speaker 1

Yeah, and then there is a British Christmas commercial. I guess, I guess this is like a tradition that, uh, where are you familiar.

Speaker 2

With Marks and Spencer? Oh mns?

Speaker 1

Absolutely absolutely, So this is like the main department retailer, department store.

Speaker 2

And they've got it all. They've got Spencer, They've got it all. They've got food, you can buy, clothing, you can buy. I don't know why I became Trump. You can buy like kids every school uniforms, like you know, they don't they they got it, af they got it. Yeah.

Speaker 1

So the ad and I guess, like around this time their equivalent of the Mariah Carey you know viral video where she is broken free from a block of ice like Encino Man, like the these ads that announced the beginning of Christmas, and uh this one. This year's Christmas ad features stars like ted Lasso's Hannah Wattingham and Queer Eyes Tan France, ditching conventional Christmas trends like party hats and gingerbread houses by like shredding and blow torching them.

They did not like pile drive Santa or anything like that, but it felt like that's where it was headed.

Speaker 2

But people are reacting, They're like, this is an abomination.

Speaker 1

It's it's just interesting that they're able to like pull It feels like a very calculated attempt to troll the right wing on a thing that you know the right will make a big deal about, but real people like aren't don't give it yet.

Speaker 2

Like the world don't you don't faint if you see a Santa hat go into a wood chipper, right, And and.

Speaker 1

The main thing that they're arguing against, like elf on a shelf really takes a.

Speaker 2

Beating in this one.

Speaker 1

Oh hell yeah, yeah there, which I think they're on point with their feeling that people are tired of elf on a shelf. And it's also like not one of the old Christmas traditions the other ones that they go after that I may maybe they are Christmas traditions in the US, but I was not aware that they were. So, uh, board games, I guess like, yeah, there's you know, you're with families, so there's board games. But I never thought of it as explicitly a Christmas tradition.

Speaker 2

Charades, Oh yeah, I feel like I see that in like in depictions of the holidays and like British dramas I've seen okay, okay.

Speaker 1

Party hats, the paper party hats I was familiar with, but uh yeah, and then Elf on a shelf come comes in for it and gets.

Speaker 2

And like what the whole thing is. Basically like I'm guessing the thrust of the commercials, Like yeah, man, because it's twenty twenty three and like we can do Christmas all kinds of fucking ways. You don't have to play charades with your aunt.

Speaker 1

Yeah. It's basically like these celebrities getting fed up with these very specific traditions. It's kind of a mess, to be honest with you, Like, it's just they're they're doing the Christmas thing and then they just like decide to light one of their Christmas decorations on fire, and it's not clear like which ones they're saying are good.

Speaker 2

And which ones they're saying are bad.

Speaker 1

I think I think the point is like I like this one and I don't like this one, and I should be allowed to destroy the ones that I don't like and be like kind of cranky and scoogy about other people, right yeah.

Speaker 2

Oh man, Well, I mean I feel like, just if you want to do a commercial that speaks to like the real spirit of Christmas. Just show how nobody actually gives a fuck about Jesus, right, you know, and just lean into that, Like me, I'm being nice cause I want a kitchen knife, or like I want a Nintendo the what. I don't know, it's just about having this crap. Yeah,

but yeah, man, I don't know. Every just that's that's the beauty of this, these weird ass holidays that are like vaguely religious, that have just been taken over by consumerism. It's like, just do whatever the fuck you want, man. Yeah, do you have a Christmas holiday that you're ready to see go in the woodchipper? A Christmas tradish? Sorry?

Speaker 1

Do you have a Christmas tradish that you're ready to see go in the wood chipper?

Speaker 2

Yeah? Going to fucking church? Amen, brother, you know what I mean, get in the way of the Christmas gifts? Thank you. But I opted out of that pretty quickly when I was a kid. I don't know. I mean, honestly, I think it's That's what's so funny is I think growing up in a non traditional household, I was never forced to do anything traditional, so we always had our own weird ways of doing shit. It was always like

this hybrid black Japanese Christmas. We would It's like there would be like I go to my grandparents and I'll get a healthy dose of Jesus over there, right, and then bring it on home. And then you know, my mom would have like we didn't have a tree, so she put like lights on a fucking lamp that was like really tall. Oh really yeah, because she's like, do you want a treat? I'm like I always said, I was like, is it presents? She's like, yeah, we'll have presents.

I'm like, then you can put that shit under a mannequin. I don't give a fuck because for me, I just caught right. I just cut right to the chase. I'm like, give me gift. I don't know about no Nativity scene, the Three Wise Men, none of that. Just let me have a gift and let me open one on Christmas Eve.

Speaker 1

That would have probably been even more controversial if they had thrown an entire church into a wood schipper.

Speaker 2

They'd probably Hey, if you want me to look, guys, I can write your right wing outrage bait like AADs so easily, and I'll do it for free, y'all, as long as you have the budgets to make them.

Speaker 1

Yeah, all right, those are some of the things that are trending on this Monday, November six.

Speaker 2

We are back tomorrow with a whole ass episode of the show.

Speaker 1

Until then, be kind to each other, be kind to yourself, get the vaccine, don't do nothing about white supremacy, and we will talk to you all tomorrow.

Speaker 2

Bye bye,

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