It is killing someone their sex is on fire. A cool thing to tell someone.
One way of saying my sex is on my sex is on fire, just saying that's right.
That's the colloquial version.
I'm gonna say that felt intentional, Jack, I thought you were setting him up right.
It was the name of the the song that by ak was too Yeah right, right, Yeah, we know.
Don't you heard that song Kings of Justin.
There is a song called Kings of Leon, Kings of Leon, Kings of Leon.
Oh, Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three, sixty three, Episode five of Darnley's Like guyst It's.
A production of iHeart Radio.
It's America's Only Undecided Podcast. I can started to return that retire that joke where marriage is only undecided podcasts we were because we liked them both so much. Anyway, it is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness of It is Friday, November eighth, twenty twenty four.
All right, made it to the end of the week. It's National Stem and Steam Day.
It's National Parents as Teachers Day, although I'm hopefully that's more of a shout out to parents that have had to be their kids teachers because the shout out teachers, because I think that's those teaching education professionals I think are the best method of it.
Dude, what's your problem with homeschooling? Oh man, I played in a few bands.
I played in a youth orchestra with two other guys who played trumpet that were homeschooled.
And I had to answer a lot of questions. They're always so interesting. So it's just like it all depends.
You know, Super was homeschold and she is at like it.
Can go in so many wildly different directions. It's it's a mixed bag. And I guess so crazy people. But I would say you like to be so you like to be around the other kids and their stuff. Anyway. It's also National Harvey Wallbanger Day if you drink that cocktail, and National Capuccino Day cappuccin Yes, remember the Bruce Willis movie Hudson Hawk. Yeah.
Danny Ayella repeatedly makes fun of him for drinking cappuccinos as like being like not cool, yeah, like not masculine. He's like, let you drink those European coffees, not Tommy five tone.
Everyone knows delicious things are not for boys.
That's right.
That was during my the phase of my life where my favorite Genres movie was Bruce Willis.
It was Danny I Yellow Side Characters. I only listen to what Tommy.
Hudson hawk for my favorite films. I know they might seem different to you. Would you like to swing on a star?
All right?
Well, my name is Jack O'Brien aka Yeah we Rah dumpster Fire. That one courtesy of Kings of Leon and Christy I'magucci Mane on the disc board. Yes, Christy, I don't know what you're talking about, but yeah, no, couldn't couldn't be further from I'm actually like having trouble driving around the city of Los Angeles, which overwhelmingly like did not vote for Trump.
But just everybody I see, I'm like, are you one of them? Did you vote for this? Mother?
Yeah? Yeah, Like I just kind of assume they did now everywhere I look, and I think I feel like that's partially what's going on with the mainstream media is like they're just like, I guess he was right about everything. We're just gonna write actually yes and get in line now.
Fuck wit no, no, no, no, don't don't. Let's not do that now, Let's not do that just yet.
No, I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co host mister Miles Gray.
Miles Gray, your boy high off that copium high off that co Paine aka sniff sniff in No, some sniff sniff in No, some Selser sniff sniffin some sniff sniff in No, some Selser. Shout out to less than zero, because yeah, I was saying, yeah, I was sniffing on that Selzer pole, a little bit of try and keep the demons at bay. I guess what deeply off that they were in bed with me, those demons the whole
time anyway, But shout out you lesson zero. Here we are, here, we are and here dusting ourselves off.
Yes, yes we are trying to And Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seap by one of our very favorite guests, very talented writer, stand up comedian, currently on tour in the Midwest.
What a fun time to be on tour in the Midwest.
I bet her advice on sex and travel has been future in men's health. The strategist betches anywhere men need help fingering as Yeah, Likes also co hosts The Great ninety Day Fiance podcast for twenty Day Fiance with some guy named Miles. Welcome to the show, the hilarious and talented Sophia Alexandra.
I'm so glad to be here with you. And a little island in the in the Midwest. That yeah, I don't know if you've ever seen someone just for fun layout things that spelled Trump. But the letters are so big on their lawn.
Oh, it's a message, like an SOS message on island something.
Like they're trying to get like airlifted out by FEMA.
Right, that's just happened.
Yeah.
Yeah.
Our country is like it does feel a little like the end of us right now, like where you like pull out and like there's just like wild ship like there's the you know, human chain going across the country and like bad things, like a weird death cult has overtaken the nation. That's kind of how it feels a little bit.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
I didn't know about the that's a that's a wild visual. They just spelled Trump out on their lawn.
What if he followed? What if he flies over our house?
He needs to know I love him the most.
It was on your side, Sheriff.
Don't look at Gary's house, He's stupid. Look at my house. My flag is bigger, and I wrote your name big, like really real big.
And I don't even talk to my daughter anymore, notice me, Sempi. Well, Sophia, thank you for joining us on this horrible week. We appreciate you doing the emotional labor of talking about the news with us as we all kind of work our way through this world of shit.
So, uh, we're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell the listeners a couple of things we're talking about. We're gonna look at who did well financially off that Trump win.
Was it the working class who overwhelmingly went in Trump's direction?
I think maybe, I mean, I think it's got to I think it must be.
We're gonna look at.
The mainstream media misreading the election with a quickness and and just yeah, it's almost impressive.
It's like, I bet.
Their take is going to be this, and sure is, they went right to it. We're gonna look at who else had a good night besides billionaires, meditation apps had a good night.
It was like a horrible day to be an alcohol.
To be an alcohol, yeah, to be a bottle of alcohol.
Yes, to be any spirit that this has been a rough week for my dogs.
Yeah, well, look at the Internet.
One of the Internet's biggest mysteries has finally been solved. Will take a step outside of the world of shit to just look at a standard Internet sallies. Yeah, that got solved all that plenty more. But for SOFIA, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?
So, because I'm in the Midwest, I'm also traveling around with my best friend Jeff, and he and I were ordering food and I was like, oh, do you want potato skins? And he's like, oh, fry like fries. Yeah. And I was like, no potato skins and he's like, yeah, like like French fries. I was like no, again, no potato skins, and and then he goes, what are potato skins? Jeff and I could not think of work the word how to describe them, so I just kept doing this with my hand.
Yeah, potato. He did a little cup of potato.
And then I literally had to look up like how to explain what because like I can't google the copy, you know.
Yeah, He's like, well, how can you just show a picture?
Well, that's the thing. It did not occur to me.
To be an alcohol I'm saying.
I'm saying it was a rough day. I was like, I have to have words to describe a potato skin. And I was like, well, there's toppings on it, and he's like, oh, like chili fries. I was like, I'm going to kill myself.
I feel like potato skin is ready for its moment. It's ready to go mainstream, to break through to the jets of the world, because I feel, yeah, I feel like it hasn't really like nobody has nailed it on a giant, chain wide scale.
And I could I could be wrong about that.
Yeah, it hasn't had its like cauliflower moment yet. Yeah, it hasn't had it like broccolini moment, if you want.
I mean, yeah, I guess because we just we just gave up on it. I mean because I feel like every American knows about the potato skin. That's what I might.
It's like they could be I think they have a lower basement than most potatoes, Like I think a bad potato skin is worse.
No, No, but they're so ubiquitous in terms of like American cuisine, like I don't know, yeah, Like I feel like if you go to any sort of like like normcore American restaurant kind of chain, like potato skins are like Chili's or TGI Fridays.
How would you How did Jeff think that you could shovel just bits of bacon, melted cheese, and sour cream in your mouth without the little puppy? So don't have the little cuppy. It just makes sense.
I'm not Well, here's the thing. I'm not calling bullshit on your story. I just I refuse to believe that Jeff Foxworthy doesn't know what.
Oh no, I'm sorry. You totally.
The other your other best friend he doesn't puppet does. Yeah, it's like it's been married for a long time and like information is in his hand about.
That's why when you did the cup thing, He's like, what the what are you showing off? Yeah? I can with all of them though, especially that like weird terrorist one that he still tours with.
Yeah, the one with the booths, yeah, weirder, Yeah, who makes his puppets.
He's not a puppet maker, is is he? That would be so funny. He's like, I also love to make puppets.
I wonder does he listen to Metallica's Master of Puppets to get psyched up? Like does he see himself?
Like that probably is a puppet playlist that he like pumps before he.
Goes he builds his own puppets, yo, Like he yeah, he's different. I didn't think so.
I think he outsourced it. I'll be honest with you.
No, I'm I just I'm just looking it up right now. He uh, he fucks his puppets right, Like we can all agree.
Oh yeah, why why else would you?
What is something that you think is moving on? Underrated? I just want to puppets? Right, Okay, moving on?
What do I think is underrated?
Sorry?
I'm like, I'm like deep in my thoughts of like traveling across the country, and I'm like, well, you know what's underrated is people being nice do each other. But it's yeah, the moments that I've had on the road that are so nice and kind where people share about themselves and are just very friendly and lovely, and then the other times where someone's just like literally trying to attack you and talk to you about ship that you're like, I have no idea what why you would even engage me.
You see what I look like, and you know what you're trying. I know what you're trying to do. So I just feel like the assumption that like, just because I'm a liberal and I'm sitting across or next to a conservative, that I'm there to like battle them over potato skins. Yeah right, that's not really the vibe. And also, if you want to have a conversation, have a conversation.
Yeah, most I think most people are so hopped up on internet content that isn't conversations. Everything is a debate or scream fest. And that's like the fuel that people are like really taking in there. That Yeah, I can totally see how they're like, oh yeah, when I when I get to be near liberal, I'm gonna fucking do the things for my favorite Instagram reels on them.
Yeah, YouTube pranks that I saw that trigger libs and then they they're very rarely have much stamina on that in my experience, like you just need to be like what and.
They say that again, but but really stand on it.
This day, I'm looking at you no.
But I mean, yeah, like I was telling you guys before the before we started, it's like I was having a conversation with someone Indian in Indiana and they were like, you know, I'm really concerned with the legal immigrants and dead people voting. I think that's like the biggest problem. And you know, I just was like, oh, that's interesting. I don't think statistically that is actually true, but I
would love to see like a link. And the person like literally got mad at me and said that they knew a dead person that that voted because their friend was at the polls and saw their dead friend's name written down there. I'm like, your story does not make any sense. This is not how any of this works. This is so wild. But uh yeah, if you're gonna have a conversation like that's an exchange of ideas, it's not well I'm here with mine.
Yeah, But if a level of like openness and malleability, which I think for some people just impossible at this point where it's like I'm just here, I just want you to say the thing that I predict I think you're gonna say, so I can rebut it in the way I've been trained to and if not, I'm just gonna get angry. And then we can just have potato skins in separate parts of the restaurant.
And here's the thing, Like I think it's tempting. And everybody puts up these statuses where they're like fuck you if you've ever you know, when you voted for him, like you've ruined everything, and like I'll never talk to you again. I don't know who that's for, you know what I mean, Like, I know we're mad, but that's not I don't know who that's for because they're not reading that, Like that's not You're not You're not gonna get or whatever it's for you.
You feels frustrated and you could.
Absolutely do that, but I guess when I'm saying overall, you're still gonna end up sitting next to somebody like that eating potato skins. And you need to be able to have a conversation that gives knowledge because, like I said, yeah, telling somebody that, hey, people who are here, if they're undocumented, the last thing they would do is go vote because they don't want to get on the voting because they're
like I love Kamala. I'm like, that's not how it works, and watching the person's face change in front of me literally and say, I have never thought of that. Yeah, Like that's you have to have the conversations because there.
Bring through there.
Yeah, it's the tiniest thing, but I'm like, I think if you start off at least with some sort of and again it's no one's job to teach other people. But we're also never gonna get away from other people.
Yeah, we're stuck with them.
Yeah, but yeah, it feels like it's very easy to do harm and be angry and hateful and dismissive of people when they're an abstraction, and then the second may become real people. It usually get gets a lot trickier, but yeah, it's it feels good sometimes to like, you know, type something so hard that your keyboard starts to smoke. But it's also like, not not that I feel like I don't feel better after something like that.
That's what my issue is too. It's not that I have a problem with people expressing themselves. Dude, I'm also devastated and mad and fucking sad and all that shit. I just feel like telling them, like, fuck you, that's not improving elections. Four years from now.
Yeah, yeah, elections, elections four years from now.
I mean that's adorable that I think that there's even going to be one pretty cute you know.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, I mean that let the Democrats run again, because the Democrats will run somebody like Pete Boodh Judge or something.
They'll run. They'll prior this run like a book of coupons or something. Right, right, there's free.
Value pack of coupons that comes to your house that you.
Never have d dollars worth of value inside.
And you've opened it and it's just for like a million versions of like new windows or window treatment, Like how many windows do people have? That you have a book of these coupons that you send out to everyone everyone. So yeah, like we're kind of probably going to be it's going to be Value Pack twenty twenty Value.
It's been a pretty interesting couple of months. We've been experimenting with a lot of different window treatments.
Don't know what, Sophia is something you think is overrated, underrated or overrated overrated?
Your underrated was being I know, I know, being nice.
I have gone. Was this this guy on the show just like trying to explain to his girlfriend he has gone like he's been cheating on her and he has gone a and he just says it like that.
He also can't stop saying to everybody and to her it's the most.
Then they take a beach trip.
I don't think gon aria are gonna spread on the beach.
Do you understand there's a collection of leaking.
I think the pills there is no leaking.
I think the pills is no leaking. Yeah, because he's like being doing the patron i thing to his Filipino girlfriend where he's speaking like, oh he's yes, he's a white guy, and he's like, I think we take the beat, go to no spread on the beach. I take the pills. There's no leaking. My god, Yeah.
I think the pills is no leaking, no more sludge.
Okay, did you find it.
Just right overrated? Is you know, not telling people that you have gone repeated the context? If you watch ninety you will know what this is about.
And then we have to leave the whole break and oh my god, uh what the fuck?
Yeah does that work?
Wait till you see him, dude, Wait till you see him.
Yeah, it's it's bad.
It's gonna make it worse.
Yeah, but sorry, that was your overrated was not casually bringing up or bringing up casually.
Casually bringing up and then trying to guesslate your fiance into having sex with you on the beach.
Yeah, I mean at this point, Luckily, I mean, for again, we're bringing a bit of fourtuny day fiance into the show here. But there's a guy who has he's like Polly, but he wants to be like. He has this trans girlfriend in the Philippines, and he has been acting like he doesn't want to have like an open relationship and acting like he wants to be monogamous. But the whole time they've been away, he's been having sex with whoever.
And then when he got to the Philippines. Oh yeah, yeah, put in his work.
I don't think anoreea gonna spread on the beach.
That was him doing the offensive thing that American people do when they speak to someone who's English is the second language, where they start chopping up the sentences like this.
Will make it easier, I'll speak incorrect English to you.
Yeah, that's exactly how Yeah. There's no leaking though, so that's cool. Also, I think I think it's really good to know that in poll Mury both people.
Know is not you doing it? And your partner being like, I'm so glad, I'm monog.
Secret very it's not a thing even sludge.
Yeah, I said all the time. All he does is talk about and then he's like, hey, when I when you introduced me to your family, you're not going to tell him about the you know, the whole And it's like, dude, what are you doing.
There's also another quote where he goes, I hope Godria doesn't ruin this whole day anyway.
He's like, I'm just gonna own it. I'm just going to own it, you know. No, that is kind of his like strategy and.
Oh wow, he's not what I expected him to look like.
Yeah, I know. Isn't it so much worse now that you see? Also his plan he left an apartment that he can't pay for in America, and his secret plan, in addition to being secretly poly right, was also to secretly move in with his girlfriend, who was expecting to move to America.
Yeah, He's like, I could live in the Philippines. It seems way cheaper.
Actually, wait, my entire plant plan was hinges on. He's saying yes but not knowing.
Me at all. Wait a second, I just got the craziest idea.
He says he like drops his suitcases pretty much pretty.
Much, he's liked ps.
I only have twenty dollars, but let's ball out.
Oh and also, oh, okay, don't forget about it that yet. No, it's kind of my way.
I'm worried about that beach trip miles though. What's going to happen?
Why?
I don't think gon Ariea gonna spread on the beach.
No it? Oh my good. And you know why because upills.
Is no leaking.
Oh you take the pills, Okay, take.
The pills is no leaking? Yeah, yeah, anyway, guys, oh.
Oh my god, I'm trying to think like who he looks like?
So someone who from from four one of the k ones, said that he kind of looks like breck and Meyer, and I said, oh my god, that's so mean to Breckon Meyer. Then the person replied, Reckon.
Briar, Reckon Briar, Yeah.
Sorry, Rick, you get it Meyer, Yeah, yeah, fix the fix it in post, guys, fix it.
All right, Let's take a quick break and we'll be right back.
And we're back. We're back, and uh, Donald Trump won election. Uh, we're fucked, YadA YadA. Skip forward for this part how.
The economy is doing okay, how uh so stock market was And this is gonna surprise people because the stock market is usually so cool and full of like cool people have good ideas about what's good for America.
Yeah, there's a lot of really cool movies about it where you're like, I feel good about hell.
These guys seem like they have it together and.
I like them almost as much as they like cocaine.
They they were pumped that he won. Actually, the stock market surged. We got a Trump surge, baby. Yeah.
And yeah, billionaires who invested in him, whether it be through a bent knee in the form of a like with withholding their newspapers, endorsement of his opponent, or just like totally funding his campaign, they got a nice little return on their good returned.
Yeah, like you know, like we are set up top. You know, working class voters definitely broke a lot further to the right than expected, But unfortunately they're not the ones reaping the immediate benefits of this win because in terms just like broadly right, if we look at billionaire spend and just what happened in this election. We were sixteen billion dollars was spent on this election. Sixteen billion
dollars was spent on. And that's in terms of the election. Yes, that's in terms of what you can actually track.
In America with that much money.
This is yes, oh you could. I mean you you could end multiple crises in the United States with sixteen billion dollars. And so dark money spent a billion dollars, which is last cycle they spent around one hundred million dollars. So big money was a huge part of this election. And Trump was telling billionaires, look, He's like, and their corporate entities, give me some cash. I'm going to give you some favorable treatment.
How do you know that that dark money wasn't just like workaday plumbers and stuff, just pulling their resources to, yeah, fund a candidate that they felt strongly about and then just completely take their name off it so nobody could ever find out.
Yeah, I mean, just based on the number of people that searts. If Joe Biden was on the ballot on election day, I feel like that may be a few levels up in terms of wonky stuff.
But I mean I also want to say, you guys that you know, the educational levels of the people that I meet on the road, I think, tell me great stuff about our focus and where the money goes, and how much everyone in dance what the fuck is going on? Turns out people do not know what the fuck is going on. They don't read, and they don't know what critical thinking is.
Sure, so Trump obviously getting billionaire money. Kamala also getting billionaire money, got huge swaths of cash being dumped on her campaign from Silicon Valley and Wall Street super packs. And also in this election cycle, Kamala Harris came the first presidential campaign or candidate in history whose biggest source
of funding was anonymous dark money. So this was like the billionaire's election no matter what way you look at it, which I think explains a lot in terms of like what kind of policy prescriptions were even being said out loud. And again, if you go person by person, right, the total gains for billionaires was sixty three point five billion dollars from the just the bump from the Trump win.
That's what happened. Just in the twenty four to thirty six hours since the election night victory, Bezos had an increase of seven billion dollars to his fortune, Bill Gates. Somehow it got these two billion dollars richer Elon made twenty six point five billion dollars and like Crypto also one of the big the biggest industry to donate to campaigns, they made gains in the billions also, so it yeah, they got.
I mean, you know, we said there would be some silver linings to this election, and there it is. We you love to see it. You love to see some some underdog wins for America's worst fucking people.
I forgot Bill Gates was a billionaire.
So and yeah and again, and like the critical thinking thing where the people who voted for Trump are like, hell yeah, like things are going to improve, while literally looking at the billions going towards the richest people.
Just getting sucked right up there who.
Never gave a fuck about them and never will.
This guy like in Twisters, Like in Twister just sent off into the sky immediately you're not seeing that shit again. I think that's the other part you have to understand. It's like, that's sick that he made that money. He's like, that's money that you will never be able to touch. That's what I'm saying. That's but Okay, sure, Yeah, you're just jealous. So like why you bring it up?
Is it because you're like jealous and a hater and you're like you don't want to have lambeau?
Is that it? No, Because if there's less money out there for people to be earning, that means their quality of life goes. You know what, Yeah, I just can I get the potato skins? Man U s U s A.
I drove by a store that was called Black Friday the Store.
Black Friday Store.
The store. I was like, oh, so you can just get like trample year round. People are like, we want.
This on demand every morning? Is a doorbuster?
Is that not the craziest thing you've ever heard? Black Friday the Store?
That actually makes so much sense to me, Like, because the Black Friday thing is kind of a myth for the most part. It's just a media story like they set up and will make the bad things that happened on that day seem worse because it's just a story that they really want to tell and like that people believe in. So why not just like make it like a Civil War reenactment of those you know, of those media stories that don't actually happen, but people want to exist so badly.
Yeah, it's like it's like the same way they want to believe that people are trying to give kids drugs. Yeah, it's like.
Yeah, it is.
It's one of those urban legends that every year the mainstream media falls for. Also, shortages of Christmas trees and candy canes, candy canes and good cheers.
I heard good cheers and an ultimate low guys.
Oh yeah, but my good. That's why I buy good, good cheer futures.
That's smart. That's smart because I lost so much money on Frankinson's last year that I can't even I.
Told you over a barrel, I told you so, but didn't I Yeah.
You fucking did you. I'm sorry. Sometimes you got to go with your heart and guts. But Mer fucked me up. And I shouldn't have tied them together, you know, put them separate.
That was on me. You did a two things, two item parley.
Yeah, I.
Double fisted and I should not have.
And did a rum on my rump pump.
Yeah.
I'm gonna I'm gonna call my nutcrackers and be like, you'll.
This is what the show is for for now. Until we keep spiraling, We're just you know.
Uh, there's I just don't really know what we're doing because everything about everything is so absurd right now.
Yeah, again, not going to dig in too deep on the headline or the details of how people are reading things. I do just keeping a one eye on how the mainstream media is taking the election that they had wrong. But you know, they were actually like kind of closer than a lot of the poll watchers. And there's been a couple isolated moments of like circumspect self reflection from the likes of David Brooks. Believe it or not, is that the rest of us need to look at this
result with humility. The American voters are not always wise, but they're generally sent and they have something to teach us. My initial thought is that I have to re examine my own priors, and you know, it's David Brooks and one of these like pull fucks, you get my priors.
I'm a moderate.
I like it when Democratic candidates run to the center, but I have to confess that Harris did that pretty effectively and it didn't work. Maybe the Democrats have to embrace a Bernie Sanders style disruption, something that will make people like me feel uncomfortable. He a statement that he will probably get three thousand emails about making and immediately try to bury and pretend he never fucking said that.
But that is I think the narrative like that is going to be the historical narrative of twenty sixteen through the present moment. Is the Democrats ran away from their person who is critical of how the system actually operates, and like you know, killed his candidates twice, and the Republicans went with theirs. Their's is fascism, and that is where we are now, right. Yeah, that is, of course not the narrative that we're getting from the mainstream media.
The overall read on the election seems to be to treat Trump's victory as a broad rejection of the values that the Democrats didn't run on. Like the Apple News podcast this morning is like talking about how new groups of Americans like embraced Trump. The New York Times headline parsing through the numbers calls it a says, early results show a red shift across the US, And yeah.
I can't tell you how much I hate the phrasing of like the the blue wall is crumbling and the red wave and whatever. I'm like why do we need to make this into like some sort of like a D and D situation, Like can we just can be.
Like, hey, the policies aren't popular with these people, gure it out. Yeah, I'm like, I'm sorry, are we are we.
Game of Thrones? Like what are we doing?
Is this minace taris? Is this Lord of the Rings or some ship? But what are we doing here? Yeah? I not pass, thank you.
There we go, And now I understand. I don't think there's like any one answer to what went wrong for the Democrats here. I think there are a lot of them, which is part of the problem. They also gave a lot of answers and like didn't have a coherent message at all during the campaign, but yeah, they they had a lot of answers. I definitely think America is racist and misogynistic, So I think that factors in people who are saying like that, let's ignore that.
I don't know why you would, yeah, because that's like the biggest thing we have we will not reckon with as a nation. So it's just we're like, yeah, dude, obviously like displaced, it's women and not white people, Like obviously, dude, but like let's go to the other part, was it like because of latinos or something those people. No, no, no, there's a there's an original sin that has not been reckoned with. So whenever you're ignoring all of that, like
all this stuff misses the mark too. But I think it, like i'd say, most of his supporters are bought into the cruelty that Donald Trump represents. That's like, without a question.
I think the difference is then there are other people, like he got it over the line with people that were simply too tired and ill informed about like what's going on, and they were tired of the status quo that the only option they were presented with was this person because they're like, I don't know, the government isn't delivering for me in the way that I needed to in terms of like affordable housing or income equality or
healthcare things like that. So then when the other guy's like, yeah, fuck all this thing, then then it's like I guess that then, yeah, without understanding what the ramifications are. But yeah, I would say, because like the biggest expansion of his base was with white voters.
Wait, can I say something? I want to say that also, I think it's a mistake to look at the way that if we don't notice that right wing voters vote against something, that's what motivates them, and like, you know, the other sides trying to vote for something, And I think those are two fundamentally like opposed ideologies. If you're going because you're trying to prevent illegal or dead people from voting. If you're going because you're like, ah, I
need to stop blah blah blah. If you're that, you know, I feel like that makes you come out to the polls in a way that people who are voting for something don't necessarily you know, well, they were, Oh, it's not as exciting to be like I'm for healthcare, I'm for whatever. It is exciting to be like, I'm gonna put these motherfuckers in their place because I'm against this right.
But I think also at the same time that is that was the message from Democrats too, was like we have to come out against Donald Trump because most people were not voting. Like the messaging was more like we have to stop Donald Trump. Also, that's pure that was so much of it was like the last things are about fascism and the threat to democracy was something that was talked about a lot and I think, yeah, there
there definitely could have been more to vote for. I think it just it's they were deployed in different ways. I think the biggest issue is generally, right, if things aren't going well, you kind of like sometimes people like, hey, you don't like what's going on, Well I'm different. And when you have another candidate, like when you had Kamalis say on the view that like, oh, like I don't I don't see what I would do much different from Joe Biden. Yeah, that's a single thing. That's that's it.
That's like, that's kind of like a really bad message to send when at the very least like the Democrats would have been open to a change candidate obviously, because the whole point of the Biden of voting for Biden and even has he articulated in twenty twenty, was I'm going to be the bridge to this new whatever, this new whatever this era is going to be, and that just didn't happen. So like just the there was a lot of just deflated people. And I don't know, I'm
sure I'm part of it. Could be that people just also thought, oh, you know what, Donald Trump's not going to win. Maybe I don't have to vote. But I think there are also a lot of people who were just completely like what where, where does the relief come from? And that's also a huge knock on like enthusiasm that I guess.
Well, no, I also think that, like I agree with that, and I also think that it does kind of tie in a little bit into what I was saying about, like voting for against something. It's like, if you don't have a compelling candidate, you don't have somebody that goes along with people having that hope and change message, right, Like that's what gets people out if they're like, oh, this is going to get better. I'm looking at this
as like this is the version they're selling me. Changes happening great, Like when you don't have that and it's like Biden and Kamala and it's kind of scattered and no one is actually presenting a position or whatever that you could be like, oh shit, like this is a change, We're going to vote for some shit.
Yeah shit.
So it's like it goes along with not having a candidate that is compelling in anyway.
Yeah.
Yeah, Well, I feel like since the financial crisis of two thousand and eight, America has basically been like fuck this free market system like we we had for for a long time, this world like where the economy was treated as synonymous with Wall Street, and like two thousand and eight, around that time, people are like, well fuck that, like that obviously doesn't work, like the Wall Street making money doesn't make me money.
In fact, they like victimize us.
So like this current system that is like what the mainstream media and the mainstream Democratic party, and at that time, the mainstream Republican Party you're talking about is not like what it is, not what I want to keep going. So you had Obama talking about hope and change, and like people voted for him in twenty twelve. He was the establishment, but he was going against somebody who was like a fucking wall Street like he looked like he could have been in the movie Wall Street met Rodney
like he he was like that was his background. And then ever since twenty sixteen, it's just been voting against whoever is currently like the person who's operating the machine that people fucking hate, Like people don't like the system as it currently operates. And if you're the person who's operating the machine, you're going to be at a huge disadvantage.
So when Trump had just spent the last four years as the person operating the machine, people voted against him, and now that it was Biden, like that Biden was going to get crushed way worse. But then Kamala came in and wouldn't like distance herself from that, and so she got crushed. She got connected to the person who was the person operating the machine. So yeah, it's yeah, it seems pretty like I don't know, that does seem to be the one central thing that you can take away.
And like Bernie Sanders came out and was, like, you know, said that it's not surprising that this happened from the perspective of like the movement that he built in twenty sixteen was based on this messaging around like working class people, and I think a lot of like mainstream democrats are angry.
But I think like when.
You think of it as like this core idea of like you have to have message, discipline and also like a plan to change this system that currently isn't working for people, if you don't have that, you're going to be fucked, Like you're just going to be Like when.
I think that, like David Brooks quote kind of sort of encapsulates just the how people who are at those sort of top layers of of thinking within political parties, like in the democratic consultant class, are where he's like, he's like, you know, I'm a moderate. I like it
when they move to run to the center. And then when it makes me feel good, I get a little to me feel good because again, right, because this is someone else, because this is a guy who one hundred percent benefits from the status quo at every level, Like there's nothing that is why he says, oh, something that makes me uncomfortable is a form of some kind of equity that again it's like, well, I don't need that. That sounds like wealth readers. So I don't know how
I feel about that, because I'm doing fine. I'm doing fine. Yeah, and all and all of the talk of biden Omics was so fucking patronizing, and we talk about this all the time when the media kept going like, but the economy is so good. How come Biden's getting hit on the economy when inflation is coming down, the jobs numbers are great, and we're like, you don't understand. People aren't normal.
People don't go oh, man, did you see the inflation came down another half percentage point rather than rather than I have to work three fucking jobs to support my family. I have kids with medical conditions, or I've kids that are LGBTQ, and I'm worried about, like what their living situation is going to be, Like how do I afford
a home? When you do all this fucking seven thirty thousand foot elevation takes on the economy, you help peoples, Yeah, and saying you don't, how come they don't appreciate that because they're not the ones who are actually benefiting from any of this, not in a tangible way, and I get that. Comparatively, the data is like, well, inflation has
come down. However, if if you offered people an opportunity to say, what if you just had one job and you could support yourself one job, and that if you didn't have.
To fear that you if you lose health, well, if you don't have to fear about being sick at all, because hopefully you will be able to get medical care that does not depend on because there's so many times, every doubt I know in Los Angeles right now has like three to five gigs, hustles, and everyone is fucking struggling, and there's no there's no hope because no one's coming through saying yeah, I know, it looks like this part of the economy is doing well, but single actual individual
families are suffering, and you should pay attention. There's a reason people are super fucking pissed working.
The thing is the poorest person I know is my assistant and they're doing fine. Yeah, And they asked me for a reason. I said no, And I said no. I mean, good lord, you should be happy with your studio apartment in Queens. But like this is the thing that's like why it's just so frustrating when the answers are so simple but everything is still looked at through this like this, like the people live in Elysium, completely detached from what happens on the ground, and they us
of this bullshit. Yeah, yeah, they completely missed the mark.
This ties into the first story, like the she raise more a higher percentage of her campaign was funded by dark money. As we talked about in a recent episode with like an expert on the subject, dark money is not dark because the candidate doesn't know where the money came from. The candidate knows where the money came from. It's dark because they hide who it came from so that other people so that we don't know where it
came from. It's so any hope that you might have that they're gonna deliver, any of the messaging that we were just talking about, is removed because of that dark money thing. Whoever was funding that dark money, they're not going to be people who want to hear about, you know, policies that are going to help the voter. But it like it didn't fucking matter. It didn't like they raised so much more money than Trump. It didn't fucking matter.
Because at the end of the day, it was all about people did not for better or worse. They just wanted to reject the status quo. And unfortunately they were like I said, any people are racist or vile, racist women, hating people, Yeah, and completely voted against their own interests.
Then there there is a subset because when you look at the pieces that moved away from the Democrats too that have been eroding, it's working class people and they only picked up with like, wealthier educated people in the suburbs. And so when you lose that, there's no fucking way you can be like, yo, we need to do. We need to do a weight with all kinds of corporate housing when some of that super pac money coming in is from like black Rock, and you know that, how are you supposed to we build.
The city on fucking the bones of fucking it's yeah, I'm just thinking of how to redo the quota.
We built this city on the bones of fucking Yeah, I'm just sorry, I.
Got I got too sad in my head. Yeah, literally, like like like literally, I just feel I feel like it's devastating to know that information is so available and people don't use it, yeah, and that people don't educate themselves, people don't care enough.
And then I mean, and I think this is where like teachers have been ringing the alarm forever forever. They said, we were so underfunded, we don't have all the tools to teach these kids. A lot of these a lot of these kids, their their situations at home aren't the kinds of place that are helping to enable like a continuation of like learning in the home.
Because sometimes we're supposed to be the first first world quote unquote country, whatever the fuck that means. And teachers have websites where you fund them them them buying pencils,
pens and books for their fucking classes. Like right now, the burden of kids actually having an education is somehow nightmarishly in the hands of like a GoFundMe system in the same way that like, you know, the healthcare thing is right right, and it's like that's that's a huge alarm that we basically have outsourced health care and outsourced
education to we don't care about it. We have to pay for it ourselves instead, these billions are being wasted on this bullshit and like yeah, they're like, go ahead and take care of your own cancer bills. We're not going to help you there, Yeah, go ahead, figure that out.
So go ahead. No, I was just saying, like Democrats the whole thing, they've been promising a better tomorrow or a better tomorrow, better tomorrow, better tomorrow, so for so right, and but and I think this is where people and understanding like sort of what the forces at work are. That's all they can do is to promise it, but they cannot follow through because that would mean to go
against the very system that empowers them. And so to think that it's that kind of change can happen from like within big d democratic politics is just it's not going on, and this is like this is just kind of the logical endpoint for that kind of strategy is like it got to a point where everyone's like, what the fuck man, Like, why am I struggling so bad?
And they keep talking about how everything can be better but nothing's being delivered, And then that just means someone else, just by comparison, can come in and be like, Noah, no, I'm not doing any of that. I know I'm taking care of y'all. Yeah, And spoiler alert, that won't happen too because at the end of the day, they're both just different operators of the same wealth extracting machine.
But they but he is the one who's willing to say the system, like this current version of the system sucks. He's saying it because racism. You know, he's saying, yea, because they're brown people here. Yeah, but at least it resonates with the where whereas like the big d democratic like talking points has to like always come back to like this is the greatest country on earth, and it's like not moving in the same direction that the people are who are frustrated with the system as a Currently.
The Democrats could have done that. Catherine Han meme to have been like, we got to take down these companies. Don't worry y'all, don't worry y'all. I gotcha, I got you and you know, and I know there are some people who do the fake populism shit like that, but yeah, I mean they're because the GOP is just willing to lie about every single thing. It's it's truly just completely different strategies. And yeah, I think that's why we keep talking about like what it what it's going to take
to to win people back. But I think if anything, Yeah, the Democrats have just complete they They've just they've ran the same playbook over and over and over.
Have not listened, not hard.
Yeah, and like the anger I see a lot of people are there like you were never going to vote for a Democrat. Not me personally, but I hear people say things about like when people are expressing their ire at the situation, like well you would never vote anyway, It's like, no, that's not true. Like this was the between the two parties. They had something that was a little more akin to something that had empathy and moving towards that direction. However, because of the sort of intractable
influence of corporate donors in the billionaire class. It's just not possible. Yeah, unless they completely turn their backs on it, because it's not like you know that, it's like there's a huge super pack for public educators that are going to be like funding their filling their coffers. Yeah, and then these are the big school teacher you.
Know, yeah, notorious.
Right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about something that's not the election. Hm. And we're back.
We're back, and in some good news, one of the Internet's biggest mysteries has chosen the worst time possible to have been solved if it wanted people to pay any attention.
Is it that we figured out what color the dresses?
Working on that? We still have scientists I think and gold?
Okay, yeah, okay, cool. You know I'll just keep that mystery box closed.
Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that's for Christmas.
This is a mystery that goes back decades that I wasn't aware of, but a writer jam was all over it.
It's very read it, very ready read it.
It's very freaking love reddit. Is it like when we tried to find that whose celebrity face.
Numbers it and then we finally figured it out, figured it was an obscure model from like Spain or Italy.
I think, yeah, it really didn't move the needle anyway, It was way more fun when we still didn't.
It was like for years because someone had it was like a fabric pattern that had all these celebrity faces on it, and everyone over the years slowly picked away at all the faces. And there's number six. No one could figure out whose face it was.
Celebrity number six is the subreddit and you see people trying to be like, I think it's this I photoshopped you know this image? Yeah, yeah, yeah, And then if you over related next to it like this, you can see the features are almost identical because it's it's just a black line drawing on like white fabric, So the faces are all a little bit off. That's why it's like a mystery. And it could have been.
So like no, and it was Rodney Dangerfield, right, yeah, exactly, it's so this is very similar.
That's David Beckham. So this is actually when that goes back decades.
A guy taped a bunch of songs off of a European radio station in the eighties, This was something I did in the eighties as a child, when I was first getting into music.
I did that in the nineties. Yeah.
I would record, like use blank tapes to just record the radio, like like, oh I like the song, and like run over to it and hit record and like catch maybe the second half.
Yeah, exactly. It would never be a full song.
Yeah. For the longest time. When Aliyah's Try Again came out, I recorded that shit off the radio but had the last two thirds of it. Yeah.
He kept trying to get it.
And every time I remember, yeah, and I dusted myself and tried it again. I even tell I even called the radio. I was like, what's that sound that goes? You're like, what the fuck? Never mind, You're.
Like bringing a friend for the other room to do other instrumentation like no, no, no, hold on coming on bass.
As good as the time when you called and asked what the song was some rebox or some nikes.
Oh I love that night, all right.
So kipped a bunch of songs off of the station. Couldn't figure out the name or artist of one synthpop song that he recorded, so it was eventually uploaded to the internet. In the early two thousands, no one was able to identify it. Even once he turned it over
to the end Internet. It became the subject of the YouTube series Tales from the Internet, a Reddit, a discord, and people were just pouring over it, even going so far as to try and decipher the singer specific accent and gleam possible lyrical meanings and like work their way back from that, like, Okay, so eighty four, what nation would have been having thoughts that meant this thing? Like, like some of the lyrics are so funny, they're just like such just eighties music, vague bullshit.
Like are they saying here the young and Restless dreaming? Or here You're under arrest for screaming? Is the song called like the Wind? Or locked Away?
It's like, I'm I'm actually pretty sure it's a screaming one.
Let's hear the track though, because I think it's important just to kind of hear it, just to give us an idea of what everyone was going crazy for.
Uh huh, Okay, this semi goes, oh, I I just died in your arms to night.
You're under arrest.
Kind of sounds like a Gregorian chance.
Yeah, Like it kind of reminds me of the Soviet that Soviet.
Union thought, that's that's one of my favorite that videos that yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yo yoh y'all yo yo yo yo ya yooa the yo yo yo guy where it's just like yo, they have like a complete man.
I think.
It was like they just had a different, a whole different world going on behind the curtain there.
Anyways, Uh they.
Well, when I saw American ship, I was like what it was? People are like Strawberry Shortcake?
What why?
They're like I'm wearing her shirt and you can scratch it in its mouths. I'm like, what is happening in them?
I want to go. Didn't make that for you at home? At Target?
The fuck is Target?
Uh So they even talked to the DJ who likely first played the song on the radio. They like went back and looked, and we think a editor finally found the song.
It's called Subways of the Mind. That is the best, Yo.
It's like I got subways like going through my mind, just telling.
You ever feel like you got some like I don't know, maybe their thoughts. They're like coming and going and like into more directions and just like you're like, whoa just like a Subway.
Was featuring like Jared Fobal Subway. Oh, multiple specific.
Artists six inch tune into it.
I'll hear you out which artists.
I want anyway? They are underrated, You're like what they.
Found it by just like pouring through archives of a Hamburg music festival eventually found a band with rock with wave and pop influences. Uh So they then contacted one of the band's members who sent over their old demos and somehow one of them was Subways of the Mind.
Yeah. Wow, I had absolutely no idea.
What so once they contacted obviously fex f e X whatever the fun that was supposed to mean, and the guy had absolutely no idea that his old band had taken on mythic status online and they are You know, some people are still skeptical and have been like scrutinizing the new information.
To why would you lie? Why would you lie about something like that, to claim and obscure thing that you didn't even give a fuck about because you.
Don't want that. You don't because you don't want them to win. That's why. You know, what I means is seven years trying to figure that out.
Yeah, that's literally like the voting against somebody.
I'm going I'm.
Gonna fucking spike do this. Watch the claim this band.
I think people would lie because they are part of a vast conspiracy that doesn't want to admit that we have made contact with other dimensions. And somehow some of the music leaks via the subway, via subways the mind, thank you so much. Yeah, they were tunneling subways beneath Humburg and broke through to an alternate dimension, alternate version of the eighties where JFK was never assassinated. Stay with me.
And I can't. I have a tiny woman and it's very sooth. I can't absorb here.
Why did you take a seat? You got forty five minutes.
You don't have to go anywhere, right anywhere?
You know what? I sit with you? Actually, all right, I'm gonna bring my hand. I'm gonna eat with you. Actually, I'm gonna have my Salisbury steak with you.
Hey, you look real nice. So anyways, I was chilly.
Hey, can have one of your potato skins. Anyways, the band has reunited.
They look like a combination of like some guy my dad would go golfing with Tom York if he had been underground for the past forty years and fleas accountant brother in law.
Wow, killing it, but it was good broeling.
The guy on the left looks like he's like a Sopranos extra.
Yeah yeah, yeah, in the back, so.
What so we wrote the song, so what what you know?
The guy in the middle so wavy too, He got that long white hair in his eyes his.
Highest fuck you could tell.
Yeah, he's probably I knew this day would come. People wanted to fucking make fun of our pop band with wave and rock influences, But look at us now they love a song. Ready.
I'm just saying that that man also probably like grows his own mushrooms. Like, there's no way he hasn't been tripping since that.
Song was pobably right.
I mean, all the pros I mean, and if you're having a thought that like there might be subways.
In my mind in the year nineteen eighty four, your yo.
Anyways, you can't buy that kind of insight, you.
Know, you can't definitely not care not for any.
Number of potatoes skins in the world.
Anyway. Shout out jam Shout out.
A four or four media good good website that still does journalism that wrote this wrote a nice background or on this one.
Who did you guys picture in your head when you heard the story? What did you think the band was going to look like?
It's some I don't know. I I thought it was either going to be like dudes who just recorded like three songs and then like stopped making music pretty quickly, or like some like a one man show kind of person, one person show sort of thing who's like I did everything since a keyboard and a guitar.
It man, that's fucking plausible.
Sways in my mind, they're like yeah, yeah, yeah.
Yeah, La.
With like a listening horn to pictured.
Like old Johnny Rotten, who's like, you know, kind of a piece of ship, and so I pictured like kind of three versions of that guy for some reason.
Yeah no, this is the kind of thing where like those three guys are going to go back to their jobs, like I bet one of them is like a teach, and they're like, you know, I'm kind of famous on Reddit. Shut the fuck up, mister Spiegel, Shut the fuck up. Just get on with this potato skins class.
Sophia, what a pleasure having you on the Daily Zeitgeist. As always, Where can people find you?
Follow? You all that good stuff.
So I am doing shows featuring for my friend Laura Peek at the Laughing Tap in Milwaukee this Friday and Saturday, two shows each night. Come through. I will hug you and we can cry a little bit if you want later, but mostly I'll just be doing really funny comedy. So come through and if you want to check for more dates, I'm at the Sofia on Instagram and everywhere Sophia spelled sofiy a.
Wonderful And is there a work of media that you've been enjoying.
Other than the podcast where I have to listen to a grown man say that he has gone to rear repeatedly.
Oh, I've never heard of that.
Don Rena. Anyway, a work in media I've been enjoying is I got trolled by two amazing Slavic women that drove to see me in Chicago. They asked to take a photo with me after we hung out. They're like, hey, follow us, so we can you know, send you the photo. They post the photo. It's you know, it's a selfie of the three of us and the caption is this woman ask us for a picture?
Is that not the.
Best, funniest troll of all time got you. Of course I've fucking reposted it immediately, so yeah, anyway, shout out to them, thank you for that.
Miles Gray, where can people find you as their working media? You've been enjoying? No, God, where am I at Miles of Gray? Where they got at symbols? Obviously I'm with Sophia on four twenty fiance check us out over there and with Jack talking basketball on Miles and Jack got mad boost. A tweet I like is from Lacey Mosley. We love you at Diva. Lacey, she's curly in Ireland
on shooting at a new show. But she treated quote, I went on a great date in Ireland yesterday, No seriously, and I got a fast track this to a wedding in two weeks. Y'all mail me them honey packs, Sierra's Prayer and some new because me and Liam got thirty minutes.
Not Liam Liam, it's Liam Pacific. I love it.
You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien work media.
I've been enjoying.
Go check out our fucking YouTube channel we were doing. We're putting YouTube versions up. You can see what we look like. You can see some of the videos that were making fun of It's a lot of fun. YouTube dot com, slash at The Daily zeke I pod go check it out.
It's fun.
You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore o Brian. You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zekesprad, The Daily es Ica on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website Daily It's like guys dot Tom where we post our episode in our foot notes or look off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy.
Miles, what song do you think people might enjoy? I think just some good instrumental music but like takes you to like a time before our modern times. I think that's always it's nice because there's no lyrics here, so like all the textures will kind of put you in a different mental state because it doesn't sound like modern music.
But guess what. This was made recently by really talented producer artist guys called John Carol Kirby, and he's like produced stuff for you know, Solange and Frank Ocean Conon Moccason. If you know, Connon maccason also did something on Steve Lacy's last album.
So he's like, you know, your favorite artists, probably favorite collaborator, kind of like one of those people.
Who's like up in a lot of different stuff. But this track is really cool. It sounds like it's from I don't know, like a lost like yach rock B side, like instrumental take and it's called Mates and it's by John Carrol Kirby to ours two l's than Carol.
All right, we will link off to that in the foot notes today.
This is a production of iHeartRadio.
For more podcasts from my heart Radio, visit the heart Radio ap Apple podcast or wherever you find your favorite shows. That's gonna do it for us this week. We fucking made it. At the end of the week, we hope you have a good weekend. Yep, go here, do something, Yeah, give yourself, Go hang with people who you find restorative.
Yeah. And yes, well community community.
Yeah, go go find a little community and go bowling with them. We'll be back on Monday morning to tell you some of the things that happened over the weekend, and we.
Will talk to you all then. Bye bye.