Teens Too Realistic To Be Happy? Psychoanalyzing Bear Movies 02.22.23

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My nose is bleeding. It's yeah, amazing. Did you complete the Titanic like ago, ages ago, ages ago? All right, we're all out of the loop here in various ways. But congratulations, thank you, and yes that so thank you so much. That song is a reference to the fact that I did buy the Lego Titanic I don't know structure, and spent weeks putting it together and it now it was on my living room floor for a while. Now it's on my bedroom floor because I don't have any

place to actually put it. Yeah, it's like it's massive, it's huge. It's the size of a bathtub. It really would you like an extra bathtub? I wouldn't know what to do with that anyways. Congratulations than we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat by one of the funniest stand up comics in the world. You know her from TV podcasts. You can see your headlining at theaters near you if you check our website for dates before they sell out, because a couple of them that

are sold out. Please welcome one of your favorite guests, one of our favorite guests. It's Amy Miller, so nice. Hello, Hello, Hello everybody. Hello. Apologies if you can hear this cat screaming, I can't some of the tour dates. Yeah, no, you'll see. I'm gone a lot, and I get punished this way. When I'm home. My cat just screams at me, yells at you. Yeah, whatever, She'll get get over it, you know what I mean? What do you want to be

taken care of? Cats? Take care of themselves. Didn't people say that that is the contract that we have with cats. I got the one needy one. That's right. All right, Well, Amy, it's great to have you back. We're going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things that we're talking about today. There was a new report from like the gold Standard of teen Mental Health and they were like, man, kids are not doing well right now.

Young teenage women, gay and lesbian teenagers are like really struggling and there that. So this came out like a

week and a half ago. Last week the Atlantics like hotshit new columnists came through with like his take on it, and I just thought it was very emblematic of how the mainstream media is dealing with Like my overall thesis is that this probably has something to do with like climate change and the fact that there is an ongoing apocalypse happening, and we're just like kind of all agreeing to ignore it. Yeah, and he like gives it a

single sentence. He's like some climate activists, thinks that I think it might be a climate change, but then like goes on to a bunch of other, like wild theories. So I just wanted to talk about that putin tour up the nuclear treaty. I was not up on where we were with the nuclear treaty. So I will catch you guys up on what that all means. In case you weren't up on it either. Why weren't you up on it? What? What have you been doing? It's really it's a quie that needs to be asked, What the

fuck is my problem? We'll talk about we might talk about some movies. Some knock at the cabin. Nice. I know about movies. You do know about movies? Really all I know about. So Knock at the Cabin came out a couple of weeks back. I don't think it's like a certified blockbuster, but it did reach number one at the box office. So, like Bafo ish Bo and some people, people have pointed out that it seems to there are

some potentially problematic ideas in there. I don't know. Well, we'll talk about the comblematic ideas in a movie, a movie by a Knight Shamalan, which usually my philosopher king in a horror film, I know, that's what. Well, that's kind of my point is that, like, do we like horror films have like you can't be like, well, the Exorcist is promoting a satanic panic even though it did, but like I'm still I still want to live in the world where the Exorcist exists. Probably, So we'll talk

about that. We'll talk about maybe that new Winnie the Pooh horror movie. Let's just talk horror movie. I just saw aunt Man. Oh shit, well, and we're going to talk about it. Aunt Man. I'll tell you. I'll tell you what we will be talking about aunt Man, Magic Mike, not a horror film. Opposite of horror Mike, delightful film in my loins. I felt delight Yeah and good we're we're giving it a thumbs way up. Yeah, Jack, what do you can't go wrong? I know what are we

looking for? Before we get to any of that ship though, Amy, we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? I like that you call the rest of your show shit any that bush good? Real professional stuff. Thanks for tuning in again. Um let's see. Well, this weekend, I'll be in Oregon. My Portland show is sold out, but there's still some tickets for Salem and if you're crazy, mc Minville a lovely little town you can go to a winery and then see some comedy. Um. Yeah, both

about an hour outside Portland. So I got you guys covered. Um. And then a couple of weeks I'll be in Alameda in the East Bay at the Alameda Comedy Club. And then I have a new clip up on YouTube. I haven't seen it because I don't want to look at the comments, but I hear it's great, so you should watch it. Give it all thumbs up. I did it. I was at the show, so I remember it. But uh yeah, give it a thumbs up, maybe leave a nice comment if I don't know. I don't know what's

going on over there. But yeah, and my whole specials up on YouTube too if you want to see more, and go to Amy Miller Comedy dot com for dat if you if you want to see way is just Amy Miller stuff. No, I've gotten so much better. I'm really growing up. I can't. I just can't be bothered with what people are. Although I was on the New York Times TikTok yesterday, I have to encourage people to see this because it's maybe the dumbest piece of media about comedy I've ever seen in my life. Like it's

just about what water bottles people have on stage. It's like the most that's hard hitting journalism. I don't know what you're talking about. And then I did read some of those comments, because you know, TikTok comments are hilarious a lot of the time, like even if you're getting roasted, you're like, these kids are so fucking funny. But you know, there were people that were just like, why aren't people using reusable water bottles? I'm like, I I just took

the bottle that they handed me at the taping. I didn't like call ahead to Comedy Central like I'm gonna need a clean canteen on stage. It's just it's the most insane thing. It's literally just about water in comedy dude. Are they trend chasing? Are they like, oh, I feel like they just gave one kid like a TikTok assignment

and he was like what about this? Right, It's like he doesn't know anything about stand up, but he's just noticed that we have water bottles sometimes and has a bottled water company ever reached out to you and been like, we would love you to influence for on our behalf because I know what kind of makes sense. It seems like an every times in community falling down on the job. Yeah,

maybe it's happened to other people. I might not be famous enough, or according to this piece, I don't drink enough water, maybe because they do clip out like the Robin Williams special where he has like seventeen bottles of water on the stage and they're like some comedians move around a lot and they get really thirsty. I'm not exaggerating this piece, by the way, but I don't move at all, So I think one bottle is probably good for the whole half hour. Like, there you go. I

don't know it's wild. You have to go check it out. I mean, no, wonder these these teams are so depressed about climate change because all these comedians are not using reusable water bottles. They're just chugging seventeen bottles of water on stage, throwing them away. And look what it's done to our planet. You know, I can't hear for a

good time, Amy, not to watch you destroy the planet Earth. Well, what's wild is in the last six months, I've been doing a new bit about plastic bottles, and I'm like, oh, you cut me. You cut me too early with this clip. Let me let's do a follow up in a couple of months when that's when that's been taped. So wild The New York Times TikTok needs to get up on their ship. I'm disappointed in there, really trying. What is something you think is overrated? Oh? Talking about gut health,

I'm really tired. I don't want to do it anymore. I am doing my best, but like you know, I think my gut's okay. But I had a friend tell me that now the new thing is like we're brushing our teeth too much, and he was like, yeah, you have to like brush and floss like once a day. And I was like, nope, I don't. I'm gonna keep three times and if I shit more, that's fine. It's just an I can't do it. I'm so tired of it. Well, how does that relate to gut health. We're like swallowing

too much toothpaste. No, he said, like like constantly removing the healthy bacteria from our mouths, which is like the first part of the digestive process is somehow having a negative effect on gut health. I said, I can't. I don't care. I can't care. I'm like, I want to have tea. I don't know. You got too far. We're also at a birthday party, so let's just say that I don't want to talk about gut health at a

birthday party. Just does seem to be the thing that everyone has clinged on, has decided is the most interesting like health health trend to talk about. I know, it's bizarre and it's sometimes it involves like poop transfusions. Yes, also, people don't want to talk about it at birthday party. Speak for yourself, Okay, I had an entire birthday party dedicated to poop transfusions. Good theme parties. Thank you. What is something you think is underrated? Amy? Oh, I'm getting

really back into reading books. Do you know do you guys do this? It's really lovely. I've been reading books, sitting down, throwing my phone into the other room and just like reading a book that's very dramatic, it has like this whimsical, like you know, childlike feeling to it. Because that's the last time that I read books all day or a lot. Yeah, I guess not maybe college. Yeah, it's been really nice. Get out there. There's just some

great fiction and you know you can just escape. Yeah. Books, I got so much more in books, Like right when I graduated, I was like, I think there was just like some internal part news, like you can't tell me what to do, like yeah, and like college books that i'd like skipped right after college that was the same way. Yeah. Books are delightful. Children's books in particular, very whimsical. I've got They're so easy to read. I know I'm tearing through like one two of these things a week. I

love reading aloud to children. It's one of my favorite things. Like if I'm maybe be sitting or hanging out with my friend's kids. I'm like, I'll read it. Why is this lady you went to college with putting me to bed? And they're like, oh, so I can drink wine and not do it. And I'm like, once upon a time, like you even do a voice for the narrator. That's just the normal part. I write every the dedications and everything you gotta. Yeah, yeah, this book is actually copyrighted

in nineteen eighty three, four even I was alive. Anyways, all right, let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about teen anxiety and why it certainly can't be caused by climate change. We'll be right back, and we're back. And this guy, Derek Thompson, Derek Thomas is like kind of the new hot shit like Malcolm Gladwell type guy in that he talks exactly like Malcolm Gladwell and also is like a beloved counterfactualist. He has like a podcast on the Ringer Network. You were going to

say below, hard beloved by many, not necessarily me. But there's the study that came out that is very troubling, and it's all about the extreme emotional trauma, and you know, distress that young teenagers are in. It's worse with young women and young gay people, but it's still like boyser headed in the run direction, like a straight boyser head in the rung direction. But he I did not I was not aware that this is an update to a

past article he had written. But he's like, all right, so last time I wrote about this, I blamed it on phones and social media, and there is some science that seems to indicate that's actually not the problem. And then there's like he even gives space to like conservative perspectives, letting like claiming that letting LGBQ trans people were not like consulted for these statistics, So he keeps referring to LGBTQ people letting them identify instead of like hide their

sexual orientation is like causing the problem. He's like, I don't adhere to that, but this is like what conservatives like. So he's like putting all these different like and there's this part of the conversation. There's this part of the conversation. But I want to read you the entirety of the climate change thing. He says, some psychologists point to social media, whereas others blame school shootings others chalk it up to changes in parenting. Climate change activists say it's climate change.

Atlantic writers like me blather on about the decline of physical world interactions. So it's just the climate change activists say it's climate change. Is the whole is the entirety of the climate change portion. He does link off to an article that is pretty wild. It's in National Geographic and it's like, yeah, we talked to ten thousand young people and they all expressed, like the majority of them expressed the position that humanity is doomed. Like, which, that

seems like a big that seems like a big deal. Well, yeah, that's been introduced into the into the equation over the past couple decades, Right, Why won't he consider that it's several major factors and also like one big factor that

there is. I mean, maybe a positive effect of social media is like having being able to have a conversation about mental health that maybe, like to nagers wouldn't have had, you know, thirty years ago or whatever, because now people are more comfortable being like I'm sad or I feel anxious,

you know. Right. He does mention that, Yeah, he gets into like all possibilities like he does say, it could be a stew of all these things, but like all possibilities are brought up and explored, like the one you were just talking about, the like you know, people have better vocabulary to express these emotions. But the one that like is just a quick aside is climate change, and it just feels like that is has to be like

the biggest It shouldn't be like a side conversation. It should be the main point, Like that these kids are living through a world that we know is being poisoned every day, and like every day the people in charge to do nothing about it. So like there's this nihilistic perspective and like functional like worldview of like how the world exists, and like the jobs they're supposed to get, like it's easier to get a job that helps that system continue to pollute the globe, you know, Like it's

it's just like you're living in a broken society. I feel like, yet it makes sense that you would be struggling with anxiety and depression, so depressed that it's like the planet you're living on will not sustain life in some amount of years and maybe while you're still alive. Like humans invented religion to deal with our own mortality. So like imagine kids being like, oh wow, my mortality is like so much more imminent than the generations before me because the planet that we're on is like it's

just suffering. So yeah, and it feels personal to them, my madge, and because it's like we had the information and then still like drop them here like yeah, for like with a certain amount of you know, years under your belt, you're like, well, I actually did this too, I've contributed to it. You know, we're all part of the problem. And if you're a kid, you're like, wait, they knew because our parents didn't like pay attention or care, you know, right, Um, so probably just I mean, yeah,

i'd be I'd be pissed. But there is also a large factor of just like additionally, they're teenagers, and it's fucking horrible to be a teenager, right, Yeah, it's it is like over time, like it seems to be getting worse.

To be a teenager is like the thing that he's trying to explain in this article, and yeah, it does seem like the I mean the article he links off to for his like quick aside and like that's what I do frequently wonder like how much of this is them just like not wanting that They're just like, well, yeah, it's climate change, but like what are we gonna do about that? And so they just like kind of leave it as an aside rather than write the whole article

about it. But like, yeah, the article that actually like delves into climate anxiety among young people. Like they're talking about how they're like, yeah, our teachers keeping like end your generation are going to solve it for us, And he's like, that doesn't make me feel good to you guys, that's that makes me stressed out that you guys are just kind of leaving this one up to us. And also we're the ones who are dealing with the consequences.

Like you know what, by the time they could even like the young this young generation, I sound so these young kids, by the time they could do anything to enact any kind of change, I feel like it'll it's already too late, but it'll be very too late by then, right, So thanks to a world, thanks to a world that they exist in where it's just like the status quo is like, but the real thing we need to talk about is your anxiety with regards to this instead, like

even even the National Geographic article like frames the thing as like, what do we do about climate anxiety? Now we need some more teenage geniuses. You got to step it up, kids, because we need you to start working on this now. You don't want to wait to fix climate change until you're an adult. Then guess what hit those books again? Reading right? It's fundamental. Yeah, crack open the Paddington books and really learn about it. Some chest tubes or whatever, how you dooks a lab coat, some

goggles and start working on it, taking it seriously. They are working on it. Yeah, this podcast is giving them the most anxiety, Like do they think this is an escape? We're we're helping them forget. Laughter is the best medicine

for people and for the planet, right, planet medicine. I've heard a lot of people recently like make fun of the phrase gaslighting because it's now come to me in any form of like misleading someone, you know, like tricking has like gaslighting has come come to replace just all lies,

decease lying. Yeah, to see, But I think that it's probably like I think there's probably some pressure like being put on that phrase from the fact that like the big overarching like major lie that we're all existing under is just this like broad scale gas lighting where like people in charge of like, yeah, things are bad, we get it. More like man, somebody should do something and they're like totally and then they just like don't do anything.

They just like steer into the fucking spiral and it's yeah, it's it is. I would understand why everything everyone feels like they're in a constant state of being gaslight m It totally bummed me out. Yeah yeah, but I mean I don't know. I hope that you're not who's gaslighting you? Who's gat Yeah? I just I I hope that like people get better at gaslighting, get better at gaslighting, so that we don't have to deal with this thing is overused, I think because people are bad at it. Like if

you're really excellent at gaslighting, they don't notice. That's the whole point. Well, you're really good at gaslighting, you don't even notice thing has happened. But even like treating the anxiety over climate change as a like a mental health condition, to treat it feels like expert level gaslighting. You know. Yeah, there's this idea that we can't treat two things at once, Like that's what's so wild? You could just like fix

several things simultaneously maybe or start trying. Yeah, all right, well let's talk about good news. Vladimir Putin has decided to tear up the nuclear treaty. Um, yeah, yeah. Just to set this up, did you see the clip of maybe you guys covered on another show of Trump calling it the other end word? No, No, I don't think I did. Oh, it's pretty incredible, but it was during his essentially the like Russian State of the Union speech.

He also like it's interesting because, like if you look at the whole speech, he's also like doing a lot of spending a lot of time blaming the West for quote making pedophilia the norm in their lives and like same sex marriage, and like just all the ship that

is like talking points on Fox News already. Like I guess I knew that there was a overlap between Fox News because because like in the war effort and the ramp up to war, they were using like Tugger Carlson clips, But it seems like it's like a real core part of his argument for why they should like go to war with the entire West is like a bunch of Fox News talking points which is cool, cool. Yeah. Yeah.

So most consequentially, he announced that Russia is suspending their participation in the New Start, which is the last remaining nuclear arms control treaty between Russia and the US, which it seems like the major component of the treaty is that both countries are permitted to conduct conduct inspections of each other's weapon sites. But apparently that hasn't been happening since before the pandemic. So I don't know. Some people are saying so really like this doesn't fundamentally change the

facts on the ground so much. But I don't think anyone thinks it's a good sign. But things are, like anyone, I don't think anyone thinks that except Kaitlyn. Caitlyn take it away. Yes, okay, I was gonna say that, Um, you know, just add that to the list of things that teenagers should be anxious and depressed about. Are you know, impending? Yeah, clear war. But we had this, I mean, this was the this is what we we at least I did

back in the like eighties that my first member. It took place in a world where like Russia supposedly had like a globe ending number of nuclear weapons pointed at whatever you know city you were in. So I the Yeah, I don't know, but so on that one, I'm gonna give it a big tough enough kids, because we've been dealing with this forever. Yeah, this is old news. Okay. Yeah, and we wore those plaid shirts in high school too, Okay,

so you didn't come up with this shit. Yeah, I do feel like, I don't know, I'm always comforted by very wrong but just like human beings thirst for wealth, like I just am like, I don't know, It's always like made me think nuclear war won't happen because I just think everyone wants to keep staying alive and getting money and running our pedophile rings right exactly profitable also known as Hollywood what. I always sort of agree with them,

like the Fox News, like pedophilia paranoia. I'm like, I mean kind of you know what I yeah, yeah, I wish that they would police it a little more on their side, but yeah, plenty of it. Yeah they A few weeks ago, the State Department said Russia was already violating the treaty, and Russia countered that the US were the ones violating the treaty. So it sounds like it's at a mature place the conversation. But yeah, I know

what you mean. I did have the thought because I guess Shijimpang is traveling to Moscow to like who knows what. But I think people's biggest fear is like a world war where China and Russia joined sides, and the you know, neo kan neoliberal position on that has always been like, but globalism makes that more unlikely because we all have economic reasons to you know, join join hands and not kill each other's entire population. H But I just don't know.

That's a beautiful thing. Just kidding that is such a beautiful thing. Only kill them over a long period of time, slowly, well guess them about how we're all in it together, and literally killing them with gas. Yes. I do also like in this speech that he was like talked about the gender neutral god. Yeah, that he's fearing. It's totally just right talking points from Yeah, there we go. So I guess we'll see. That's that's how That's how I'll end that story. Nice, We'll see. All right, let's take

another quick break and we'll be right back. And we're back, and let's talk horror movies. Horror films sometimes scary feelings feel good in a place like this. I think we can all agree. We come to this place to laugh, to cry, to be scared. Thank you. You know. My boyfriend lives in Omaha. Long story, I'll tell you later. But he was visiting La and we went to a movie and everyone started clapping when Nicole Kidman came on screen, and he was like, what the hell is going on?

He had never seen it. They don't like have a lot. They don't really have in Omaha. Maybe they have one, but it's definitely not like an iconic moment in their lives. And the entire theater erupted in applause, and he was just like, I don't know what this shit's weird out here. He's like, did she die? What is called Kidman? Okay? I'm like, no, she's fine. She just she inspires us to watch the movie that we already are here to watch. Yeah,

was telling us to come to the movies. While we're at the movies and we're excited, your movie theaters don't have an ad for the movie theater that you're already in. What oh Maha, Okay. And it's not even for concessions. It's not like you know, like go get a coke. Coke's delicious. It's like come to the movies. Well, at least the like go to the lobby. That makes sense because it's like because that's how the Waters make their money's concessions, right, But this was just like you're already

sitting at this theater about to watch this movie. I just wanted to remind you. Thanks. I'm Nicole Kidman. I've a sparkly pinstripe suit. Oh my gosh, iconic. I know it was the Halloween costume of this season. I feel it was I dressed she is wearing a wig, so like you can also complete that part, feels like it. Yeah,

I was. I dressed as AMC Theaters for Halloween, and then because I knew that everyone else was going to go as Nicole Kidman, so I could be like, hello, I'm like, we can take a picture together because I'm like the counterpart to your costume. I was a United Artist Theater regal the whole chain. Okay, wow, it's a good thing you guys didn't run into each other. Yeah,

I would. We would have had to fight problems. I feel like that is where we talked last week about a couple of movies where like brands are the new hero, like with the new movie that's about the invention of the Air Jordan or the invention of Tetris. Tetris. Yeah, just people dressed as the various brands fighting one another. I feel like is probably not too far. I will right all of those screenplays. I am wearing Chevron T shirt right now, so I just yeah, I love Yeah,

we do love brands. It's interesting dressed for the role you want to play, you know, that's it. I am wearing a Titanic I said, that's so weird Titanic T shirt right now? Did titan the you are? Oh? You really are? You really are? Yeah? And it's beautiful. It's work of the beauty. It is the poster wearing a Caitlin guildhoodie. What about a Caitlin Toronte hoodie? Yeah? What the hell? Get a screenprinter? The wait? What was the AMC Theater costume? Was it just like the logo the suit?

Oh I'm so glad, you asked. I can't answer this. Well, I have a sweatshirt that I already had. I didn't even need to buy it for this costume. A sweatshirt that says somehow heartbreak feels good in a place like this. I wore her red pants with like I like attached string lights up the sides of the pants to make it be like, oh, these are like the lights that are illuminating the like stare stairs to like help you

see your seat kind of thing. And then I taped some candy rappers to me, and then I carried around an AMC popcorn bag and soda cup. So I'll send you a photo. In fact, mcguffin is what I wanted. Well, you mean the mcguffins bar. I did drink alcohol all night out of my cup, so that was kind of mcguffin spar at AMC theaters beautiful. So anyways, movies are a thing. They happened at AMC theaters. One such movie that came out they happened at AMC theaters and I

should say CLYMC theaters. As of yeah, this this podcast has become a AMC absolutist podcast where we don't acknowledge of any other movie theater. One movie at the Cabin came out fairly recently, the latest in the m Knight

shamalan Uva and this one. I remember seeing the trailer and being like, Okay, so the twist has to be because so the premises, two men and their daughter are like at a cabin in the woods and they are accosted by a bunch of religious zelots, and there is violence against the gay couple, both in like as they are there is like this home invasion, but also in

like flashbacks of like their life. And so I was like, well, certainly the religious zealots can't be right in this movie, right, like because they're like, you have to kill each other to save the world. And I'm not going to spoil it, but it does feel like they are correct about a lot of stuff in the movie. And that's what I've got. I haven't seen the movie yet, and I might or might not. I don't know a Night Shamalan. I'm not like, you know, clamoring to see his movies anymore. Yeah, but

I am curious. But it does seem like based on just some context clues from the trailers I've seen, it does seem like. And the twist is the scary religious zealots who want people to murder each other are that

there's something to it. They might do religious people mad about the movie, or they like it because I feel like we've had these like scary religious zealots in horror films and thrillers forever, and for the most part, Christians don't appreciate it because they're like that because they're painted

as the villains. But I think rarely are they like and they were right about the threat that was coming, right, So we'll just say the movie actively invite sympathy for these stand ins for the most dangerous people on the right. Although they do claim that the characters being gay has nothing to do with their role in all of this. They've just been selected by God. But I don't know.

On the one hand, it feels very much like that's a that's a weird message to be putting out at a time when America has this like soft death cult taking over like mainstream politics, for like one of the parties like in QAnon, to then just be like and what if they were right? What if they were right about it all? And that's the beauty of Hollywood, you know. But yeah, I mean I don't know, Like there's also

like The Exorcister, Rosemary's Baby. I think you could be like, well, those came right before the Satanic panic, and that was certainly a bad thing that happened from the right, So maybe it's just like the right not being able to handle their shit. Well. Also, gay couples, you know, more likely to financially be together enough to have a vacation home. Right, Yeah, but you know, not that many average American straight families have their own cabin retreat, so good for them. So

that's good representatives, it's just realistic. My main takeaway from The Knock at the Cabin is that I always think that it's knock at the Cabin door. I always think there's there's an extra word to the title, and there simply isn't. And I feel like they forgot to include that extra It just feels incomplete as a title to me. Yeah. Also, the Intruders all met on an online message board, as

the producer Victor just pointed out. But yeah, I yeah, there are certain titles that just like don't sit in my brain, and I refute, like, I'm like, well that that's not anything to do with my brain. That is, they got the title wrong. They messed up. Yeah, it would be awesome if I could come up with an

example of that, maybe, And a villain is Dave Bautista. Yeah, so they like just your regular unassuming Apparently he's very good in the film, and that is I think the people who are objecting to the portrayal of like this right wing death cult being too likable are reacting to the fact that he gives a very human performance as one of them. And yeah, so I don't I don't know that this is going to to like derail his career in any way, but I can always go back

to wrestling. He could. I think he's going to be like an Oscar nominated actor at one point. That's a weird take, but for this movie, yeah, maybe not. Yeah, somehow they're going to go back and be like, oh, I guess it did come out and yeah, so he's there's still hope that he will be dominated from there's buzz. We're starting the buzz India. Yeah. And then the other big horror movie release is Winnie the Pooh, Lad and Honey, a film that we'd kind of seized on when we

first heard about it and the trailer dropped. And this is basically the result of Winnie the Pooh the original stories by AA Milm passing into the public domain, Like so they are now one hundred years old. They are up for grabs like Peter Pan and the I wanted to say the Right Brothers, but the Brothers grim the Bible classics, you know. And and so somebody had the idea, Okay, I'm gonna take Winnie the Pooh and make him the

slasher in a horror movie. When you see the trailer, it looks like it's just some dude in a Winnie the Pooh mask that also doesn't look that much like Winnie the Pooh, to the point that you suspect that. They spoke to a lawyer, and the lawyer was like, I actually don't know if this is going to be which because some of it came from Disney, right, yeah, not the books. Yeah. Yeah, So that's why Winnie the Pooh was not allowed to wear a red shirt in the film, because he does wear a red cap with

white writing on it, which I thought was weird. Yeah did you see the movie, Amy, Oh? I just wish he was a maga Winnie the Pooh. Okay, he does kind of give Maga Winnie the Pooh vibes, though, like the in the in the shots that I've seen from the trailer. The movie's out, everyone seems to hate it. It is made by a filmmaker who is like a hobbyist.

It would appear like he very recently was just like worked for an electricity company in the UK or like I think they've actually private or nationalized it, so like he was a government bureaucrat working in electricity and like making movies on the side, and so he just like got to this idea first and was you know, a corporation is not going to like the Anyone who is part of an organization with a legal department is probably not going to be the first to an idea like this,

which is how I think this ended up happening. But yeah, they the reviews aren't great, but it does just raise the question of like, what what are we going to get next? I mean, look again, this is well I don't even know if this is Hollywood ingenuity, but this is some kind of ingenuity. Though I don't hate the idea.

The execution I heard is bad, but I think maybe it's just because I like Bear media famously as a Paddington stand and I'd like one of the Pooh I already have a ticket to see Cocaine Bear from now Thursday night, like the night before it officially opens. I'm ecstatic. Yeah, these bears, I'm fine with the idea. I am afraid for what else we're gonna get when they're when their time comes. But I never been a big Christopher Robin fan. So if he like goes after Christopher, fine, like just

never was about him. You know, I don't give a shit. Yeah, you're an annoying kid, you're spoiled, right, and your bear now has a thirst for blood, right, I mean, I think it's I agree that, Like I'm in theory. It sounds like a good idea. Like the Winnie the Pooh characters all seem to have like different problems going on. You know, Piglet definitely suffers from like generalized anxiety disorder.

When Tigger is man, Yeah, Tigger is on math and like there's also like so the premise of this is apparently that like Christopher Robin when he grew up, was like, all right, I'm not going to go back to the hundred agger Wood anymore because I'm I don't have an

imagination anymore. And then he returns and realizes they were real and are now like Farrell and like eating each other and killing and like that's and then Winnie the Pooh the Killer Farrell there is released into the world, which is basically the premise of like Toy Story three, like kind of or it's like got a lot of the same ideas in there as, you know, like the the idea of like kids moving on from the their childhood imagination, like the the most depressing moments in the

movie inside out, Like it's a thing that Pixar has touched on repeatedly and never made it a horror movie. Troud's play franchise. Right, do we know how long this movie is? Because it's the kind of thing where I'm like, if you're respectively, you know, eighty ninety minutes, great, If this is two plus hours long, I'm already annoyed because it's I think it's a fine idea, but like I don't want to see it for that long. Yeah, yeah, I think that's right. I'm I guess it's like eighty

three minutes. That's my I'll put money on it, all right, you know, I hope ten minutes of that is credits because my guess based on like that, based on the trailer, and I'll have to watch the movie to like figure out if the Zegger, but like I had the sense based on the trailer that this was just a slasher movie in which the slasher wore a Winnie the Pooh ish mask, because like that that appears to be what has had, Like it's a human and a Winny the

Pooh mask. And then like people were like, oh, they're making a Winnie the Pooh horror movie. That's so fucked up, and they like reshot a bunch of scenes to like add the stuff about Christopher Robin, like going back to the hundred Acre Wood to like make it actually Winnie the Pooh who's doing the murdering, And maybe that's where some of the run time problems would come in. Is it bad to But he does use the RS Tale to whip a shirtless Christopher Robin at one point. Sound

is Christopher Robin ripped? That's the review doesn't mention that, but that is the question that is by that description. Yeah. Absolutely, no one's seen Cocaine very yet. It's not out at the time of this recording. As of this recording, it's not out. Well, I know someone who saw it in Omaha last night. Oh really disagree, Like Magical Movie World in Omaha, where they don't have MC theaters and movies

come out a week early. That's great. I know I have no idea, but he definitely saw it last night, and I mean, I do think it's kind of cool that it's like that TikTok comedian who complained about his IKEA job in a funny way. Yes, what's his name, Scott Scott Trice? Yeah, yeah, I mean I'm happy for him. That's cool. It's a good start. Oh yeah, he's in Cocaine Bear. Right, he's like the opening shot of the trailer. Yeah,

he plays like an EMT or something. I do keep waiting for him to be like when he sees the Cocaine Bear and be like all right, listen up bear, like the music to come in, to turn turn to camera. I keep waiting for him to turn and be sponsored by a Kia and just take the bag yes, and be like sorry, sorry, I was kidding. Yeah, why would he have anxiety? You know? So it's a perfectly normal system where you criticize the labor practices of a thing, but then like, the only feasible option for you to

get to eat is to be sponsored by them. It's a cool world. You can only make so many cocaine bears. Maybe Cocaine Bear and Winnie the Poop and Honey are both about climate change. If you really think about it, it's you know, the earth rising up and murdering us back, Yes, murder us back. Well, Daddy, the it is interesting. Bears hibernate, you know, their polar bears are famously a symbol of like the the mess the climate change has caused. And

now we're getting horror, multiple horror movies about bears. So and who knows what direction of Paddington three is going to take. We really don't know. We have some ideas. I believe you pitched them. Yeah, yeah, no, no indication yet. If they've they've gone with that. He doesn't eat marmalade anymore, just pills, just opiate. That's right. People are really into bears on drugs. Yeah, No more honey for Pooh Bear, no more marmalade for Paddington. It's only cocine diet from

here on out. Yeah. So there. The original version of Mickey Mouse is about to enter the public domain. The filmmaker behind Winnie the Pooh, Blood and Honey apparently already has a baby and a Peter Pan slasher ready to go. Wow, Well we'll see. I'm assuming it's just a slasher film with people wearing masks of those based on the Winnie the Poo's got, like the four hundred dollar budget. Yeah, yeah, that's that kind of is how it feels. Anyways, Amy as always such a pleasure having you on the day.

Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff? Oh yeah, follow me on Instagram at Amy Miller Comedy and then my website's just Amy Miller Comedy dot com. If you want to see if I'm coming to your town. I go to all kinds of towns all the time. Amazing chances are good if you live in a town, I'll be there. Towns, towns or boys that towns, cities and villages like any that's like what level I'm at. I'm at the town level of comedy success. I've graduated

from hamlets and islands, small private islands. Yeah. Is there a tweet or some work of media you've been enjoying? Oh yeah, this tweet from Yucky Tom, who I don't I don't know him. I've never seen him on Twitter, but I retweeted a couple of days ago a couple of years ago, my buddy explained to me how killing yourself was an oven worked before that, I thought still

be a Plath just cooked her head. And I got retweeted in a lot of this because there's like the study on suicide called the British cold Gas Study that where when they got rid of that gas and ovens, like suicide went down to the theory is that like suicide is all about opportunity and it's not always like a thing where anyways, it's a big long, like gun control argument. Oh please send it to me because you don't know this about me. But I love reading suicide studies.

I really have. Oh yeah, wow, I like to study the trends. I don't want to do it myself, but yeah, I'm interested. It's it's super interesting. I talk about it way too much. But people have confused that, like because things just get like loosely associated people's mind. They're like, oh, yeah, Jack likes cold gas, ovens, suicide, and so everybody just sent me that article like like, I'm a fan of that. This is why we're friends. That's right. There's a callback

gas lighting joke here. If anybody was a comedian here, too bad. Yeah, we're actually gonna be working that out. I've started a flow chart and we'll have something for you in the coming days. Thank you, awesome, Caitlin, pleasure having you. Thank you so much for having me. Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff? And is there a tweet or wikimedia you've been enjoying? You bet? And I'll start with that. You bet. I

love your Molly Shannon NPR voice. You bet. The tweet I've been enjoying is from Young Me Mayor at y m Mayor on Twitter says I respect my brain because sometimes it's all you're too much, but sometimes it goes you're not enough. That's called range sad one. And then you can follow me on Twitter and Instagram at Caitlin Darante. You can listen to my podcast that I co host with Jamie Loftus called The Bechtel Cast, where we examine

movies through an intersectional feminist lens. Yeah Yeah, queen amazing, one of the best podcasts out there. You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore, O'Brien Lewis Verquel tweeted if you're ever in a sudden black out, the first thing you need to do is yell my diamonds and that's just facts Incorporate. You can find us on Twitter at daily Zekeeist. We're at the Daily Zekeeist on Instagram. We have Facebook fan page and website daily zekeeis dot

com where we post our episodes. On our footnotes, we're link offs to the information hey, that we've talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Superproducer Justin is there a song that I think people might enjoy? Yeah, considering that the topics were pretty heavy and talking about depression and whatnot, I wanted to leave y'all with a very happy song. This is a California artist called Dnya. She is severely

underrated in my opinion. You probably heard this song in like a commercial or a TV show or something, and the song is called easy Baby. It's exactly how it sounds. Dnya kind of describes herself as like pastel R and B artist, which I couldn't find a better vibe for that because it's got this kind of like electronic dream pop vibe. It's very relaxing. It sounds like, you know, sipping my ties or peanut coladas on the beach. So check out this song easy Baby by Dnya. You can

find that in the footnotes footnotes. All right, well, The Daily Zeka is a production by Heart Radio. From more podcasts from my heart Radio visit the iHeartRadio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite shows. That's gonna do it for us this morning. We are back this afternoon to tell you what is trending and we'll talk to you all then right right M M