TDZ Top 5 Of 2023: #2 Five Knife Freddy (10.27.23)

Hey, guys, So I've always wanted to do some sort of like top Episodes of the year rundown thingy. This year, I had a little extra time before taking off for the holiday, and so kind of threw something together just based on what the episodes were that you listened to the most. In future years, I'd like to open it up for voting, get your input. But for this year, we're just gonna be rerunning each of the top five

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Here is a podcast where we take a deep avenue version consciousness. I just got it at a second hand store. It's very comfortable. Anyways. It's Friday, October twenty seventh, twenty twenty three.

A banger of days. National Civic Day, shout out to everybody who has no idea how the government or anything works. National black Cat Day Shout out to all the owners of black Cat myself included and our very lustrous guesses. Well, National Frankenstein Friday, don't know what that is. It's also National bread Stick Day, so you know, holler at your stick bread and National American Beer Day.

Frankenstein Friday, the day that the events depicted in the Monster Mesh actually like historically took place.

Maybe canonically, yeah, I don't know, but yeah, it's always the Friday before or the last Friday in October for whatever.

I had labor questions about the opening of Monster Mash this year, where it's like, is he compass for working in.

The lab late one night? One night?

Is self employed?

Great?

I know that the guy who wrote that song he had like a daughter who he tried to like launch a NEPO baby pop star career with. And it was like it was a music video. My friend made the music video and it's her and Henry Wingler, and it was like all about like there's a bunch of horses in anyway, wait what God? Yeah, then.

The sentence there were a bunch of horses.

There's like the opening scene of the video is like the main you know, the lyricist, the singer, she's like at a like she's at a horse stable and like Henry Winkler Club comes out all like perplexeds, like, honey, we gotta get the horses. Moonshadow hasn't been fed, and it's like this weird, very poor opening, and then like there's a music video.

From the like what year was this take? This was like two thousand? Okay, So it was like a belated launch. Was like all right, now that this song has officially made it, and everybody is like wondering what day in history it happened on? For instance, maybe maybe we can launch this into something now?

Does that are we to believe that it's it's possible that Henry Winkler owed Boris Bobby Pickett a favor.

Oh and if so, what could it happen? What went down there?

Does Boris Bobby Pickett know something about Henry Winkler that would lead him to have like to have to be in this because if it's mid two thousands, Henry Winkler like he's back, he was the dad in Holes.

It's like it's like pre arrested development post holes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, it was like it was kind of an in between you know, it's a bit of a lean period. I think it was right before he like we fully re embraced Henry but anyway, wow, So he was just like, yeah, hell yeah, fuck it, I'll do it. Yeah, Shadow is hungry. Fine, I can, I can. I'll kill that line. Anyways, Uh what what a what a story to kick us off with. I'm telling you find the video. It'll be in the fos.

Frankenstein Friday?

Is that what it is?

Frankenstein Friday? So is it? I want it must be the last Friday before October thirty.

Last Friday of October frank Stein frank Sein.

Rainey, Well, my name is Jack O'Brien. I forget where I am, just generally aka wood Rice. It's spilled in my pants while I was on the ride. I don't know wood Rice. I swear it's not pissed. It's just woodter Ice. That is courtesy of First Blood five two. We can't move on from this, can we? Aka writers, We're still on the fact that I ghost pissed my pants on a child's ride. That was very scary.

I was not brought up to speed on that.

But oh, you didn't read.

Your daily briefing, Jamie.

This daily briefing, presidential daily briefing.

I don't feel I feel like I know and I and if I don't know how I'm thinking of it is better?

Yeah, yeah, yeah and.

Shorts on yeah. On the by the way, ghosts, it's a good thing. Abba. We're not from Philly, I guess because Waterloo. Yeah if it's wood anyways, I'm throwing to be joined as always by my co host, mister Miles Gras.

Yes, my name is Miles Gray.

A ka oh, kiss me beneath my lace sick eyesight, teach me to keep my eyelids close, leave yours open end, look at me, stay and meet my wide eyed glance.

Eyeballs now touching, So kiss me.

Shout out to that Salbudoor jolly on the discord. Yes, you know, Derante was on earlier and was talking about how, you know, having some kiss chemistry issues with dates and just say, you know what, we probably can't go on any more dates because the chemistry is off. And I you know, she's talking about being honest with people, and I had to say shout out to my high school girlfriend and said, stop keeping your eyes open when we

Yeah.

Yeah, with eyes wide open.

And I like the added lure from this song that you were doing that because you were trying to kiss eyeballs with the person. You're trying to touch open the eyeballs with them, which is very very intimate, painful, painful, and not very sexy.

I found it helpful, like, yeah, there to have to articulate if someone asks you, like like they're the back of an eighteen wheeler, how am I doing this?

Number? Yeah?

And and I and I usually am like great, but then every once in a while, I'm like, how are they doing? And the this was in like the last year where it was like, I don't know how you're getting your tongue to be flat, but that's not necessary. Someone making their tongue flat, like flat like it had suddenly experienced, you know, like it was like thirty feet you know, subterranean. It was just flattened. It was really interesting. Yeah, So I feel I also improved at giving feedback.

Yeah, and your feedback was just to clarify here, don't have such a flat tongue. Weird. Keep that ship to yourself.

Homan.

First of all, you're being disgusting. This whole thing, this whole act is making me sick.

Miles. We're thrilled to be joined in our third seats by one of the very faces on mounta Zite, Moore, one of their favorite guests. One of your favorite guests, Yeah, I mean nominated writer, artist, comedian behind many of the most acclaimed podcasts like Ghost Church, Bechtel Cast. She is the New York Times best selling author of the New York Times best selling Brook Brod Dog, Who's Welcome? The New York Times best selling author Jamie Love That.

Okay, missus Joey chest Nut yesting on.

An open fire.

It's at Santa University. Oh you know who's going to be making a little appearance this year in Santa University. That's from at Zombie z Amboni thirteen. Like as if I could know just what you think, it couldn't be just what you think. It couldn't get better that that. Really, I'm so happy to be back.

Hi, so happy to have you.

It's funny too, Like there's so many you know, this guest, This show is merely a stepping stone and a place people passed through onto greater things, and for many people that become as successful as you. A lot of times listeners are like oh shit, it's beef. Jamie hasn't been showing. No, Jamie is. Jamie's doing quite well and promoting a New York Times bestseller. So yeah, you know, there's.

There's other things happening, and I mean not to mention the beef.

Yeah, well, yeah, the beef is ugly and we don't talk about.

It, but the beef is. But but we put aside our differences.

Well absolutely, and you know we begged you. Yeah, we begged you to come back because like, help us do anything, you're so mad at us.

Congratulations. I think this is the first time you've been back since becoming a New York Times bestselling author.

I believe.

So, yeah, thank you for saying it so many times.

It's dope. It's the dopest thing to say about anybody that you don't like New York Times best selling the obviously Jamie Loftus.

Thanks got Yeah.

Yeah, it's been it's been, uh, this year's been all over the place. That was a high. That was a good one.

Yeah.

Good.

Yeah, We're very happy for you, proud of you and excited to have you back on the daily. Get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, a couple of the things. We're talking about five nights, five night at Freddy. Have you guys heard about this?

Is this right?

They're spending five five night at Freddy, five night Freddy.

I honestly, I'm like so stoked for five night at Freddy. I got a text to being like, you know, Killers of the Flower Moon this weekend, queen, and it's like, well, it's more of a five night at Freddy weekend for me. Killers the Flower Moon. That's a November project. But I have to you know, see is October. I already saw Saw X. I gotta see five Night at Freddy. I got to see that fifth night. I'm hanging in for the fifth night.

Wow, that's right.

Yeah, yeah.

The reviews are in and they are bad. I had a friend I have tried not to learn what five night at Freddy is, five knight Freddy, five Knight Freddy. I had a friend be like, it's the latest nightmare on ELM Street movie, right, even I know that's not correct, But now that you're saying five knife Freddy, I mean, who who's guy with five knife on his hand?

It's five knife ready.

Right, I'm just saying all that plenty more, But first, Jamie, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history?

Okay, so something for my search history is a guy I'm just completely enamored with. Move Over, Joey chest Night. Monty Revolta is who has been on my mind. I have either of you heard of Monty Revolta. I was really desperately trying to write a last minute Halloween profile of Monty Revolta, but he tragically does not seem to know how he's the Internet very well. But like I okay, so I forget if we ever talked about this on TDZ. But I worked at a hant at the Haunted hay

God him learning so much just ambiently.

Try to keep up with these industry terms.

The sides that I'm like, they're called scare actors, they're called scared.

The characters at Universal Halloween hor Nights.

Yeah, well that's some high rant stuff. We couldn't afford that kind of that kind of vocabulary. But yeah, that's like every every scare actor. Would you know, you would see Monty's band, and Monty's band would kind of like not well, at least one of them was like kind of swinging swinging his dick around about his proximity to Monty, and there were some really but I never got to meet Manty. I never had to see him perform. Then I went back this week because I just had to know,

It is good. It is so good.

Monte Rivolta and his Band of the Living Dead. It was made in you know, an angel fire.

Look at his clients. He's working with everybody who's doing a freaky fucking thing in the South Lane.

Oh he doesn't give a ship. I mean well, he and he also the Herson Reptile Show. You know, Monty Rivolta in his Undead band are going to be there.

I am like the winch the Winchester Mystery House. Oh yeah, oh they've been at the Winch.

I love the kid CBGB's for like Haunted Novelty bands. He played the Winch. I just like, I think he's so cool, and I kind of love that he is sharing his beautiful art. I cannot figure out what his government name is, to save my fucking life.

I just love what I'm seeing that somebody Jos played monte Ravolta in Monte Ravolta Acting Dead twenty sixteen.

I've seen, yeah, I've seen Blake Johnson, and I you know it could be true. I just it doesn't fit his vibe whatsoever. Interesting this nine foot man singing I will always love Ghoule. I'm like, that can't be a guy named Blake Johnson. I'd lose it. I don't understand. I don't know. I've been trying to I've been trying to figure him out. I was like, maybe I could shadow him for a night, but he just crickets, crickets, wants nothing to do with me and Deadson.

But Blake Johnson come.

On exactly exactly. I wonder if he's changed, because I I wonder how much crossover there is between this and like hot dog eating specific because there's a guy who I'm I would now consider not a friend, but like a heightened acquaintance. This guy Crazy Legs Kanti who that is like now his government name he had it changed, and I'm like maybe Monty Revolta just was like, this is my life.

I'm making this olocks.

Crazy Legs most certainly.

Does love those dreadlocks.

Also like a really like really really tall, physically imposing person has a huge Marx Brothers collection. Interesting guy, I feel like you have.

A type, Jamie, really tall, not a real human.

In reality, I men who are tiny and hate me.

This guy with the Johns Hopkins Jamie, yeah, yeah, like super smart, got like lived in LA for a while, like really really a fascinating man.

I went to the after party, the like hot dog eating after party, and like was chatting with him for a while, and I was like, how people are amazing. I have hope for humanity because.

You know this is possible.

Yeah, you could look like an Adam Durwitz like impersonator, wear a fedora, and just crush the competitive eating scene.

Unbelievable. He spoke at my New York book release show and was telling this story that I was like, what are you talking about?

You?

Everybody like like your like new friend that gets invited to the wedding gives a.

Like milletant feminist. But he was like telling a story about and like he you know, he was really cool, but he was like, yeah, I was getting ready for this mayonnaise eating contest and I was doing it at this girl's house. Because you don't want to be eating mayonnaise at your house, like, but you do want to be eating it at a girls.

He's like, mean crazy Legs.

Right, So I was like, why would you eat it at your girlfriend's house. He's like, well, she wasn't my girlfriend.

It was a casual whoa I don't put you know, crazy Legs doesn't put labels on things.

That's called a mayonnaise side piece, dip over mayo.

Life is beautiful.

I love So I've been ever since he said Monty Revolts, I've been trying to figure out what that is? It like that, So he's a lounge act, like a lounge singer who is like themed Halloween themed. I am I stupid? Is there an obvious reference there? Like is Montira Volta referencing something?

Not that I can tell I forget, Like I I went with somebody and he had like all these ideas, He had all these pitches for what it could be a reference to. He was like, is it Mars Volta, Like that would be.

Weird Volta from the early two thousand, That would be.

A very Blake Johnson to do that sounds like a Blake Johnson. That it was a huge Mars Vaulta guy. I can't figure out what it is.

I can't.

I also can't really tell how long he's been doing it. But I do know that he plays weddings and that is really lighting a fire under my ass to considered that to get married before he gets too huge. And I can't, you know, get him for weddings anymore.

Because the Band of the Living Dead would suggest that his wordplay is fairly straightforward. But Monty Revolta, I don't know.

Travolta is the closest thing I get.

Yeah, that I'm thinking, But like Monty travolt manty, like Johnny Travolta, Monty Ravolta, who.

I'll ask him if he ever answers my fucking email. You know, I'm going to hear from him on November fifth, Like it is like talking to it does remind me of like, you know, come July twelfth, Joey chest Night, everyone is you know, temporary, He's left everyone's mind temporarily and then you can get him on the horn. But you know, June, forget it. July fourth, don't even.

Try, like trying to get get on the phone with my accountant during CAx season Swish, thank you from way downtown. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and keep talking to Jamie Loftus. We'll be right back, and we're back and Jamie is back on the show, and we are about to ask you, what is something do you think is overrated?

So this it does kind of dovetail with the Hanted Hayride discussion hyper specific conglomerates because no one I know worked at the Haunted ha Ride this year. Because of this, like there is a Haunted hay Ride and Haunted Attraction specific conglomerate which acquired the Los Angeles Haunted hair Ride and like kind of I don't know not to sound like gen X about it, but like they sold out

Yeah.

Real, But they like, as far as I could tell, lowered the wages of employees, acquired all these things, sold a bunch of sponsorships to Hulu, jacked up the prices so it cost fifty bucks to go on a hay ride, you know. And and we can only hope they're compensating Monty Rivolta and his Band of the Living Dead fairly. But I just I take real, real issue. I feel like they're you know, if there was still if it was still a mom and pop population operation, it would

Yeah true, especially like the the won of Griffith Park, like it had like this you know, homeliness to it. But I guess now that's my thirteenth Floor Entertainment group. I mean it was like, are they owned by a venture capital?

Right? Like it has to be someone sucking the fun out of everything. It was still great, but I was here. I was in a hay Ride alumni text group, and most people who went back, they were like, I got put in. It's there. It sounds ridiculous to read the text, but it's like, you know, someone I worked with last year is like, well I quit today. They put me in skeletons and I was told I could do a stunt, but then I couldn't do a stunt. So I walked out on all the skeletons and I was like, good for you.

Yeah, I feel like this could just be the entire episode is talking to you about your experience with these haunted houses. Like that the local haunted house market has come up a little bit as like we've been talking about like buying a haunted house Instagram. Yeah, we've been talking about the.

Like Pete Davidson and Colin Joe's buying a boat. You guys buying a haunted house together.

So just like that level of like the Instagram activation, things like I took my kids to like Bubble World. I think it was called and it was just like

It seems like, I mean, based on how my boss last year behaved, he was he had he had he had just about fucking had it with this with this corporation, and and would start to say there the last night on Halloween Night twenty two, me to uh, he was dressed as legless from most most nice.

He would wear you know, like.

A black shirt and black pants because he was at work and he wasn't he wasn't a s character. He was like the actor coordinator. But but he was growing increased because and he had been in the haunt business for years. He would come around and like he was

Love that level of professionalism and like dedication. That's great.

Yeah, he was great. And he ended up quitting and not coming back because he was being you know, micromanaged and like told that he was being too easy on actors. He was giving us too many breaks and like just he was being nice to us, and so by the end, he like made a whole speech to everyone on Halloween night, dressed as legless. Not related to the speech, but certainly enhanced it. You know, he was like, I am leaving this business. This season has broken me, and I am

He gave like Eisenhower speech about the military industrial complex, like on the way out. He was like, this whole industry is fucked rosten run.

And you're wondering why I'm dressed because Gone Door has no king like what stuff.

But it does also sound because another kind of related at that level, like war Old that I find super interesting in addition to Haunted Houses, is like ren Fair, right Like, I feel like ren Fair like ren Fair people might just as well like segue right into Haunted Hayaride acting totally, but I feel like the Renfair is a little more debauched, though behind the scenes.

It is certainly horn horny air, Like I went to my first Renfair this year, so I can't I can't speak to the culture, yeah, like I can't, but it seems like there's got to be a similar Like there's a real theater kid showing a barn energy to the hay Ride, which I feel like the company, like the corporate interlopers kind of take advantage of because it's like, oh, if these people get injured, they're not going to say anything because it feels like we're doing community theater and

You didn't you get like a promotion last year. I remember I was following your tweets because someone like busted their knee or some shit, and like, a right, Jamie, you're the fucking star tonight.

Oh that busted their head and we are using the passive voice into what happened to their head. And just for legal reasons, there's nothing that Jamie had nothing to do with. It was not working to work her way up.

I certainly what if I yeah, what if I was doing it all about Eve.

Saying you are a huge fan, right? Yeah?

No, I was murder nurse. I was cast as murder nurse too.

Wow.

Yeah, And I was like, you know, I was like a substitute, and I was intended to play a different part every single night because there were so many injuries. Yeah, and there were so many injuries, and like COVID was going around that there was always going to be like I was looking forward to being like and now I'm

She still came back.

I was I was like, dude, you have you have to like I don't know. I was trying to be as like undercover as I could be, but like you should sue these guys. And she was like, no, you know, I got to finish out this season strong. We're a family here, And I was like, no, no, you're not family to them.

Yeah.

So yeah, I was.

I was the only I was the sole murder nurse I went through. I went on the the murderers no longer a part that is playing within the hay Ride.

It was retired there to hire your number. Not going to get better than this. Yeah, that's such a like that feels like one of the things where the entire charm is that it is like slapped together by unprofessional people, and for it to be taken over by like private equity, it's it's a real bumber.

Like this is fun. I think you can do this for half the price and get twice the people in Like.

When private equity takes over the whole Carnie circuit, I feel like that's when we're really fucked.

There's a blog that I would read in high school and still read now in every post called Diary of a Car and he blogspot dot com and he shares very similar views to you on that point where he's just like, we used to be a proper country.

I'm glad you're ascribing these views to me.

Man, it is a bummer.

I mean.

And that's not to advocate for the old way of doing things, because it really did seem to you know, like because at the at the Hayride, it was like a lot of you know, guys in their forties and teenage girls which would play out the way you would

What's what's something you think is underrated? Jamie?

Uh oh, women's hockey. This is something that's been on my mind recently. I know, I was excited to tell you about Miles, so I U I have been thinking about I was with my dad over the summer, and he's a hockey writer. And he was on the Bechdel Cast after asking for years because every couple like a once a year he'd be like sort of throwing his hat in the ring as a potential guest on the show, and he's like like he just like, you know, jam Slapshot was written by a woman?

Did you know that?

Did you know that? And there's a woman in the movie as well, And.

And those brothers they have long hair, so I.

Could say they're challenging the binary a little bit, those Hampson And so this year, finally I was like, Caitlyn, my dad, he won't stop until we cover him, until we cover slap shot. It would improve my day to day life if we just let him cover slap shot. And uh, I thought he did you know? It? Was great? Slap shot does not hold up particularly well, is in

Oh. Yeah, they got a good rink out there. Yeah.

Oh it's the Isoplex.

I was, Oh Valleys now in Isoplex. It's a is Wait did that change the original? The original Isoplex used to be in like North Hills, like West Hills area, like off the four or five. Yeah. Yeah, and their club because I was all, you know, I was in the socow hockey scene. Their team was called the Wolves, and Isoplex was like one of the nicest newer ranks, but I didn't know that they had rebranded or moved

Oh is that even still there?

Yeah? Like they shoot that. They always like use that place to shoot any like skating scene, like in the office, like when like they were like ice skating there, like they shoot it. There's so many things are like filmed in that rink.

But it's just a very shallow pool.

Now.

The Isoplex was beautiful, and so I was like trying to go to these women's pickup games because there's a lot of like co ed teams, but there weren't a lot of just like specifically women's teams. And I finally made it up this week. I'd been like texting with this woman and it was like, we're having a difficult time, and I was like, why am I having difficulty communicating with uh with this woman? And it was when I

Yeah, they they had a labat w.

H Yeah, the bat on tap tap. It was really cool. So yeah, I I'm you know, it took me, you know, thirty years, but I finally understand the appeal of this little game.

Yeah.

Well, now there's a professional league that's starting up too, the Professional Women's Hockey League, And I know I don't think LA has a team, but they do on the East Coast and in Canada.

But yeah, yeah, did your dad put a lot of pressure on you to play like growing up?

Uh? No, there was one significant push, but then he saw me skate and he was like it's a non starter. But when I was at the pickup game. When I was the pickup game, they're like hurting for players because it's so kind of far out that they're like, can you skate? I was like, no, no, I'm not gonna. I can't play with you. But but maybe on a long enough timeline I'll try it, because yeah, it's like

Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, just just park it on the blue line.

Mm hmm.

Yeah, hockey was a big sport at my high school. Like I went there, you know, moved to Massachusetts halfway through high school from Kentucky, you know, a place where basketball is the only sport that matters, to this place where I, like, I truly had not encountered hockey being a serious sport anywhere outside of a Disney movie, and like went and everyone was like, God, the hockey players

Gilmarino put the slap shot on that guy breaking a glass.

Shout out to Michael, Wow, yeah, what a time. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and cover some news. And we're back and we're just gonna get right down to right down to it. Five night Freddy's video game movie that did not was not aware that I had a sense based on the poster. It was something it was a movie based on something based on video game and it's like spooky.

Chucky, did you guys, Yeah, which is I'm bummed that the movie sucks because it was Chuck could really use the good pr right now. Yeah, there, Did either of you play it? I never played it, but I remember that was the first video game I ever saw, like play through YouTube videos.

For Okay, I never played it, but but when we were both working at Playboy Jamie when I was doing video there, there was like a video series with two playmates that are gamers, and I remember I had to like produce a shoot with that, and I was like, what the fuck? And I was like, oh, this game

M Yeah it was. I didn't even realize it was an indie game because of how like, yeah, that was the first time I had ever like encountered that as a thing that happened and thought it was isolated, and then you know, obviously I have never stopped seeing it, but it's i mean, haunted animatronics a great idea, and the guy who invented the Chuck E Cheese animatrons very racist,

At some point, I mean, like the real the diehard fans like they fuck. I mean, it's there's a reason why it became a Blumhouse film. It's because the definitely there is an audience, there's an absolute audience for it.

Producer Victor is noting that there are multiple three hour lower documentaries about five Night, five Night a half five.

Night Freddy Freddy. What could that possibly mean? That's that's so interesting.

Well, that's like a big thing that like as the reviews come in, like there's a whole debate where some people are like, it's not really for casuals man, like if you don't fuck like or some people were like there's not enough for yeah, yeah, yeah, it is wild like I'm and I'm like, it's interesting following the reaction because, like anything, when you have a huge like when a fandom gets to that point where now like a Plumhouse or major studios like yeah, let's see if we can

I was kind of I was positive because I didn't see I kind of forgot it was coming out until I they showed the trailer at saw X and I was like, damn, they got Hutcherson. And my friend was like, I don't think that's hard to.

Do, Like what did you just say, yeah, damn, Josh is like, what like in the seat in front of you twenty twelve, Yeah, you need something.

I did see Josh Hutcherson getting into a very quiet argument with his girlfriend in front of a restaurant near my house once, so it is like not that hard to get Hutcherson. But but I was like, I don't know, maybe I just like went twenty twelve brain for a second, where like, oh my damn, they got Hutcherson. Five Night Freddy is huge.

Yeah, it's bigger than Hunger Games.

Yeah.

Yeah.

There's something about the minds of people who are like scared of animatronics, I guess, or like into I don't know, because the writer of the original indie game also like a right wing person.

God, what is it with animatronics and being a piece of shit?

I think because they're like techno slaves or some shit. Probably you know. Oh yeah, it's like I'll make them do what I say, and I can make you in my like I mean that's probably some weird god complex.

Yeah, yeah, I can some level.

But hey, I would love to see where the where the woke animaz.

Right, I mean, there's certainly woke animtronic fans. But I right, right, but we're not technically minded unfortunately, right right.

Right right, you're just there for the commentary.

We are topping out for five nights of Freddy's. We are topping out on metacritics. So the overall metacritics score is twenty nine, an average of twenty nine, and we're topping out. Usually usually you will get like one or two that's like, hey, I actually enjoyed this because I was like, my meds are dialed in or something, you know, like so like I sometimes I just enjoy the hell out of them. Like one of my favorite film, going Expirits, was Die Hard for for no reason other than I

Yeah, it's not boring. Yeah, I mean even like the fans, Like there's a guy who would like stream it on YouTube, like this guy Jack Septic guy, Like his review is like it is not great, sort of like the nice person and a lot of people are like, you made a lot of five nights at Freddie Content. But again, I think that's where like you see a lot of you know, other other fans come in and be like, it's just people aren't gonna understand it. It's not for normies.

So you see the trailer, You're like, oh, they got Hutcherson, but they but they like now I'm kind of embarrassed because Hutcherson knows like what I'm into, and like they did such a bad job with the lore that now like I'm like, they shouldn't.

Have done this to Hutcherson or us or mac you Lillard, you know, Matthew they got they got Lillard, that got Lillard.

I mean Mary Stuart Masterson kind.

Of a star studded cast. I was really impressed with the cast. I love that they got Lillard. I feel like Lillard played the game. That's my guess is that Lillard was into it. Hudgerson, we don't. I don't know of his hobbies. I don't know.

His agents were like, hey, man, you're gonna have to say yes to this.

We got bad news.

You have to be the leading five knight Freddy.

You're five knife Freddy because you were Freddy your knife.

Yeah, you're knife Freddy. Because nobody was fucking with Journey to the Center of the Earth too.

Oh god, he was in that.

Uh.

It's a bummer that we would eat at the same realm in place. It's like when I saw Taylor Lautner at a bar I go to and you're just like, this is.

This sucks recently.

It's like five years ago, so I think that, well, yeah.

But I mean like post like Super High Twilight Peak, Yeah.

Yeah, And it was like a place where you get like, you know, three dollars backwash. I'm like, why the hell is Taylor Lautner here drinking three dollars backwash with the pleabs?

Was he doing the thing where he had his back to the bar looking out at the.

Bar, he was holding court. He was holding the court. It was really cool, Like he bought rounds, he was holding court. He had no issue with you knowing. He was drinking backwash at the bar, which is cool. That's a cool quality. He was with I think his girlfriend. Now his wife also named Taylor. That's not very cool.

I don't think.

Wait he married a Taylor.

Yeah, yeah, Now they're the tailor's lotner.

Yeah, that's incredible. Should we talk about the Britney Spears memoir the audio book?

Have you got Williams?

Yeah?

I I've just slowly seen some like excerpts get sort of elevated to the top. But obviously I think the big one with the release of the audiobook was everyone sharing the clip of Michelle what Michelle Williams doing an impression of Justin Timberlake doing a black scent.

Yeah, it's what It's a lot.

Have you not heard it? No, Jamie, for someone who is so online, I'm like, James, this is old hat for Jamie, I'm sure. Okay.

So I was I was trying to I was like, let's see how long I because I was like I want to read it. And I also was waiting for an episode of Chelsea Devonte's podcast about it. It was like, and then I'll engage.

Oh yeah, wait, just one excerpt, you know, like this is one loose line that's like blowing up where she's first of all, like Britney Spears is talking about why she was fucking with in Sync over Backstreet Boys. She's like in sync like they listened to hip hop, like they seem more oriented towards that kind of culture where the Backstreet Boys felt very white. I'm just gonna we'll just play this clip really quick because there's all white.

Guys from Florida, and yeah, what is like the game guy.

Let's not forget Chris with his techno dreads either, but hey, let's focus on this Skylark. So but yeah, this is a this is one of the excerpts here, just talking about this time where he met another famous R and B musician.

So the other ding like a lot of people are pointing out like this seems Michelle Williams is a five time Academy Award nominee. People are like, why is she doing this? And then they're listening and they're like, oh, she's the best that has ever done this before. She's killing it. She's doing a great job. So yeah, this is a little sample of that, and it's an anecdote that a lot of it's caught a lot of people's attention.

His band in Sync was what people back then called so Pimp. They were white boys, but they loved hip hop. To me, that's what separated them from the Backstreet boys, who seemed very consciously to position themselves as a white group. In Sync hung out with black artists sometimes I thought they tried too hard to fit in. One day, Jay and I were in New York going to parts of town I'd never been to before. Walking our way was a guy with a huge, blinged out medallion. He was

Jay wasn't even embarrassed.

Wow, I like the there's like a YadA YadA past that. I'm sure they had an interaction, but it kind of suggests that Genuine just he did that and Genuine just walked away.

Yeah, it was like, oh my god, the fuck is that?

The abrupt switch after the like the audiobook pause before genuine walked away, like you're just oh my god.

After walked away.

She's a professionals good professional. That alarming. I'm looking forward to, uh to reading that book or probably more like listening to it. Celebrity memoirs are meant to be listened.

To, especially oh yeah, because I'm pretty sure what Britney Spears personally was like, I want Michelle Williams to narrate this, like this is why this is happening.

So very weird, very weird. How do they know each other?

Dialed in so well? Though? What better person to lend your voice to have their like, have them lend their voice and have Michelle Williams do the Britney Spears book so good has to get the egot.

She will this is her grammy, Yeah, yeah, beautiful.

There's I mean, there's all sorts of There's also the story that Britney Spears almost got what was the famous role that she almost oh, the Notebook, the Notebook, Yeah, she almost was cast in the Notebook.

She was like in the fire three.

Yeah, it was between no, she was in the final two between her and Rachel McAdams and like they like Scarlett Johansson, all these other people had tried out and they were like, Britney Spears was like fucking nailing this. She's really absolutely like an amazing actor.

Oh wow, there's like her audition tape is available.

I think the camera tested with with Ryan too.

Yeah, that's I always want.

I mean, I know that there were a number of extenuating circumstances in Brittany's life that, uh, but I was her her movie career was like a non starter, and up until recently you couldn't even get Crossroads, Like you couldn't even stream it until recently, even though that was like an early Shonda Rhyme's script.

Oh I didn't realize that.

Yeah, that was like one. I think it was like Shondai. One of Shonda Rhime's like first produced scripts ever was the Britney Spears vehicle Crossroads. And she's so good in it, and she's so charming and like she's a good actor, and it's like there it worked out for Mandy Moore many more kind of dropped music and started this is Us singer. I still don't know what that show is about, but damn, she would have been cool in the Notebook.

Yeah, here's what Shonda Rymes also did. Didn't she do Princess Diaries too?

That was like another.

Yeah yeah yeah, Sean after Crossroads Yeah right yeah, pre Crossroads. And if I'm recalling, I know, I know too much of Shonda's filmography. I think it's just shy of It's like the year before Grey's Anatomy, she did Princess Diaries to royal engagement. Yep, sure enough, it is true. It is true. But I'm like, what is Shonda's relationship with Britney? Is there one? Yeah, I don't know, we don't know, right.

What could have been?

You know?

True?

If she was Meredith Gray?

Yeah, you know, yeah right, but then it's like we would have been I mean, and again this is like not even taking into account what happens later in Britney's career, but like we would have we would have not gotten some really solid Britney albums if she if she had gotten too far into acting.

So yeah, when she talks about it, she's like, you know, at a certain point, I decided to stop auditioning and just record, just drop classic albums on you all, and like good, yeah, if we.

Got because if we got like if we got Brittany in the Notebook, we may not have gotten Blackout, and that would have been challenging for me as.

A youth for American culture.

That would have been pretty hard.

America's bad right now. You think America's bad right now, try and picture this counterpack. But yeah, and also she has a quote like in one of the articles I read about the Notebook thing that she was like it was just mentally too difficult, like I just embodied the character and like trying out for that character like got to me so like she was almost like too message for to like actually pursue acting because it was just

Yeah. It's funny too, like because Justin Timberlake does not come out looking good in this too, Like she talks about how like she became pregnant like with his child and then you know, have an abortion and things like that, and then like now it's funny to see the pr machine move in Justin's direction and they're like Justin Timberlake is fine. He's actually just focusing on being with his family, like amid the.

Noise amid the when it's also like pretty well documented that his family does not like him, right, So cool, I hope. I'm sure they're really enjoying spending time with you on this your fiftieth cancelation. I was trying to I was trying to think of, you know, like because of SAG rules, I'm like, I have to think of like a Halloween costume I can wear, and I have a lot of I can pretty close to replicate the Justin Timberlake denim outfit. And so I'm trying to put

You got to get those gradiated. Like those gradient shades too, oh my god.

Yeah, like the yellow, the freaky late nineties blue blockers everything.

Yeah.

Yeah, yo, it's so wild like that that outfit. There's like how there's like tutorials on how to make the Disgrace Denim boyfriend outfit. Like it's like it's kind to make your Denhim, Britney and justin good Lord, what a time?

What a time? I mean, great, great horrible man, great outfits. Brittany, God bless.

Her, She's an keep on dancing those knives girl, or Jamie, Such a pleasure having you as always?

Yeah?

Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?

Oh the same old places? Instagram at Jamie christ Superstar, at Twitter, at Jamie Lofts, help listened to Bechdel Cast, read Raw Dog and and stay safe out there.

Yeah. Is there a work of media you've been enjoying?

I wanted to shout out Marsha Belski really quick. She tweeted about it yesterday, but she was arrested at the Capitol this week. She was protesting with if Not Now, calling for a fire and kind of shared her whole kind of experience of what that was like, and you know, some criticism of Bernie Sanders in particular, and I just it's a very informative thread and she's the fucking coolest. So that is a work of media that I found inspiring and cool this week.

There you go, Miles, Where can people find you? What's the working media you've been enjoying?

Find me on Twitter? Instagram everywhere else. Let's see yeah yeah at Miles of Gray. Also follow us on our basketball podcast, Miles and Jack Got Mad, Sleeping Like ninety Day Fiance and trash TV. We'll check out my other podcast for twenty Day Fiance Sophia Alexandra And if you like you know true crime, check out The Good Thief, the new true crime show I'm doing. But it's all all eight episodes are out. Let's see a tweet that

Yeah?

It sounds like people are right that shows it's it's worth watching. But yeah, so far I'm enjoying what I'm saying.

Yes, Chef am I right.

We chef behind Chef is Joel McHale that much of a dick. I've only like seen this like one flashback scene or he's like maniacally being like you fucking suck.

Sucks.

It sucks up your slow go fast like I.

Really like embodies the like you're mind at the at its least healthy or at least my mind, it's least least healthy. Is just like I feel like he's a great stand in for that. Right, What the fuck do you think you did? It's like so mean, it's like kind of comical. It's it's pretty incredible, right, the Bear.

Yes.

You can find us on Twitter at Daily Zeitgeist. We're at the Daily Zeitgeist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page on our website Daily zeikeist dot com where he posts our episodes and our footnotes. See it basically talked about in Today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy it My also song do you think people might enjoy?

Well? I guess well. We're gonna have the link to that Henry Winkler music video because I found it. Hell yeah on the footes. The opening is wild Anyway, a song that.

Is also about monsters or is it about Portoh?

Is it Monty Coded?

It's it's called Puddles and wishing wells?

Oh no?

And you know, I'll let y'all check the footnotes. You can watch the full length video that came out in two thousand and nine. It was actually two thousand and nine, it turns out. But anyway, the music that I think we should go out on is this.

Maji Revolta's rendition of I Will Always Love Cool.

His wordplay is truly band of the living Dead.

They're going out on an LA band called the Altons A L T O N s H. And they're like, you know a band that's around now. They're from LA, but they their shit sounds like you've discovered like New forty five records, like if like Motown was like in LA. Like it feels like West Coast like sixties seventies soul. It's really dope and they're really talented and like they got the esthetic really down. And this track is called over and over by the Altons A L. T O. N. S.

Oh right, Well, we will link off to that in the footnotes. For Daily is a production of by Heart Radio. For more podcasts from my art Radio, visit the Heart Radio Wrap, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen to your favorite show. That is gonna do it for us this morning back on Monday, Yeah, well to tell you what is trending, what was trending over the weekend, and then on Tuesday for a special expert guest episode, so we talking to y'all. Then have a good weekend, Stay safe, bye bye m m.

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