Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three ten, Episode three of Diali's I Guys Say production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into American share consciousness. And it is Wednesday, October twenty fifth, twenty twenty three, ten two five two three.
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Costumes out trick or treating and.
Stuff relevant iconic. I guess I don't know. I was never into Chucky though I feel like I feel like I see the resurgence of Chucky's really with the youth to the youth them, Yeah, the youth them. Yeah. I don't know. I liked his that that movie really.
I think it's like really fun in concept, like a killer doll is really cool, But then like the is there.
Is there a great Chucky movie? Hate one? A resident film experts.
Thank you so much for seeing me. I think that the first one is like really scary and like the exact amount of hokey campiness that I want in a horror movie while also being genuinely pretty scary.
Now, I haven't seen it since I was like eight.
Maybe that's my problem. I watched that shit when I was six in nineteen ninety. I remember, like right when it came out on tape, but I haven't. I was like, nah, but maybe that's because it was too much for my six year old brain.
Yeah, I think you need to revisit.
Yeah with an open mind.
I don't even know if I've seen any of the sequels, because I know there's like Bride of Chucky yeah stuff, But I think the first one is pretty solid and you should revisit as an adult.
Yeah, I will all right.
Yeah, shout out to Sean, my third grade good, very good best buddy whose parents had like the greatest vhs like self taped at home library. Oh really, that's where I saw die Hard way too young. That's where I saw Child's Play way too young.
Wait? So wait was die Hard? What was it ripped off of? Like they were just ripping from others?
They must have been taping it off of like HBO or something, because it was there. Weren't like commercial break got it there? Like Okay, I wouldn't here if they had their own pirate operation, you know.
Yeah, that reminds me something that annoys me.
Though.
The title of Chucky is actually Child's Play, and it's like, why wouldn't you just call it Chucky? The same way that why is the movie that should be called Rambo actually called First Blood Blood?
I know that that gets a big jerk off hand motion from me.
First Blood here, okay, but a movie called Rambo sign me up?
Yeah? Yeah, Rambo Rambo two? I mean that's what we ended up calling me.
Yeah, you know, colloquially holy word I can't pronounce. My name is Jack O'Brien aka. This is the story of a guy who pissed his pants and blamed water ice. And while he looks so sad, talking cold gas, I absolutely love.
Him when he smiles.
That's scarsy a locker roomy.
Appreciate it.
He said, I've made a Jack O'Brien double old pee, in reference to the time I peed my pants on a child's ride with my children and lamon water. Anyways, Okay, okay, I swear I didn't. It wasn't I didn't.
Just admit to that. Anyways.
I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co host, mister Miles Grad Miles Gray.
A ka A wake up. Now, Where can we put the arts because art up? Where to advertise a local startup? Where the post this recipe from Grandma pictures from a trip to Alabama?
Not on the front.
Now, where can we put the new kids art up? Not on the fridge? Where to advertise a local startup? Not on the on the fridge from Grandma? Not on the bridge.
I don't think you'd trust in my personal style guide. A cry when fridges are not magnetized, shout out to raise act for that child. Yeah, just giving it again, because you know what, keep the fucking refrigerators, magnetized wake up people. Indeed, don't make the decision for people if they want to use it as a repository for construction paper and news clippings. Let that happen.
Okay, yeah, well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seats by very talented, brighter stand up median podcast. So it's the Bechdale Cast, which takes down the patriarchy one movie at a time. She also happens to have a master's degree in film.
No big deal.
It happens to be one of one of our favorite guests on this podcast.
No big deal.
It happens to have the most anagrammable name in the English language.
It's Caitlin Doronta.
Dracula. I mean, it's just like the season, you.
Know, miraculous season. What are you going as for.
Hallowey Oh let me tell you, I honestly should, but that'll be that'll have to be next year's costume because I don't think I could pull it off in time. But this year's costume all time low for laziness. I'm making a shirt, which by that I just mean like I'm going to find an old white T shirt and then just write male ego on it, and then I'm gonna take a bunch of like those like fragile stickers that you would put on like a bow, like glasses or like breakable things, fragile mil ego tea here.
Wow. I mean it's good though, it's good.
Thank you, thank you so much.
I can't and I'm inevitably like I'm already gonna apologize for the shitty dudes or.
Let me just preemptively.
That's cool because that's not me. That's why I'm funny. I think that is funny too. Any man's hilarious.
Right, any man who's like upset by that, it's like I'm talking about you.
Yeah, yeah, fragile. Yeah, it's like one of those flights, like those like outdoor like insect lamps that just brings them in and just get sad, like come to the light. Yeah, accept the truth, feel the warmth.
That's so funny, with just dead eyes, no smile, no trace of smile.
Oh you go. Does this resonate with you? No? No? Oh? What does that mean? What does resonate mean? Never mind, sir, Just go on your way.
All right, Caitlyn, We're gonna get to know you. A little bit better in a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of things we're talking about. Yet another Trumps associate tried to shorten associate to a soce and it doesn't It doesn't really work anyways. Jenna Ellis has played guilty the third guilty plea just this week. Fourth overall. So we're gonna look into that. We're gonna look into what that means, and then we're gonna check them with Donald Trump and see how he's doing.
Dude, he's doing five come back to back sound bites that are breaking new ground angers.
Yeah, I mean he's an artist. He's always pushing, pushing the envelope further. Miles has has a reason for me to care about the speakership. So I'm excited about that.
Yeah, historical precedence. I think that that might resonate.
That's me when when someone talks about historical precedents, don't care.
That was you. I thought you were I thought you were nodding off. I always am a little bit.
We're going to talk about women in Iceland going on strike, but perhaps a effective collective action that maybe should not just be an Iceland. We'll talk about a Taylor Swift conspiracy theory. We'll talk about the switch witch all of this plenty more, But first, Caitlin Durante, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?
I searched for how to fight a gleoc. I think it's maybe how you've pronounced it parentheses tears of the Kingdom. So I've been ruining my life recently with the newest Zelda game, and there are these three headed dragon type things, and I don't know how to do it, so and I am not above cheating, and so I look everything up on the Internet of how to do the things in the game because it's a really hard game. I honestly don't even remember what it said. The different gleocs. Again,
sorry if I'm not pronouncing this correctly. There's like they have like different elemental things. So one of them is like the fire one, one is the electricity one, one is like the ice one. So you have to like use other like contrasting elemental weapons and stuff like that to fight them. But I know that the frost kind of thing exactly. But they have a weak spot and I still don't know what it is because I'm too afraid to get close enough to them.
So yeah, yeah, do you do the thing? Because I when I play video games and I get stuck. Sometimes you will see an article that will tell you how to cheat, that will not cheat, how to defeat it, or the YouTube video where you can be like, hold on, how the fuck? Oh do that? Okay? Yeah, it always clicks immediately. Sometimes I like to start with the text so it doesn't feel like I'm fully just like oh, okay, okay,
so there's a bit of a challenge. But then I'm always frustrated when I see how easy it looks when someone else does it, and I'm like, I do I fucking suck at everything?
Is that?
What the fuck is going on? No?
I think it's just people who probably have made a living at just playing video games and like posting content to like teach people how to do it. Yeah, you would be good at this.
Oh that's how you make fiel. It's like, well that's your actually, yeah, this loser. Oh you're so good at video games. Oh you just lek and one go great, good time. Just tell me how to do it? Tell me to shut the funk up? What's the secret? Shoot them in the fucking eye.
What No, that's the other thing. That's the big troll guy.
Anyway, Sorry, who's there is?
Like I forget what those ones are called, but they're these like big guys who are bounding around and they have one eyeball and you have to their weak spot is their is their eye. So you have to like shoot an arrow into their eye and then they fall over and then you like bash them with your sword and stuff.
Yeah is this with anybody?
Then you just like kind of knock them over and just fucking step one hundred times, like goddamn sword right fucking eye fu right in their skull.
The battles are my least favorite. Yes, exactly, You're right, Miles. The battling is like my least favorite part of the game. I just want to go around in like forage mushrooms. I want to go around and find all the all the outfits.
Yeah. The last person to bring up the game said the exact same thing, was like love the other part, but also just love to fucking meander and.
It's really meanderable game.
Yeah, meander. What is something you think is overrated.
Because it's spooky movie season. I think ari Astor as a filmmaker is a bit overrated.
The mid Sommar.
Midsommar Hereditary, and then the one that came out most recently, both Afraid Afraid. I didn't see that one. I think that he let me clarify. I think he is good at making a horror movie that makes me feel very scared and unsettled. Because I saw both midsimmartin Hereditarian theaters and they were effective horror movies in that I felt miserable and scared the whole time.
Yeah, it's long enough to just be scared.
You want to feel worse, just like bad in general, like you've got a flu or something.
Right, I have an emotional I left mids No, I left Hereditary with like a migraine headache because I was just so tense and like just feeling like hell.
Yeah.
But I don't think he's a good storyteller. I think he's a good director, and I think he gets good performances, and I know I think he's like good at I guess maybe is he overrated.
I don't know.
I just think he's I don't like his screenplays, Like, I think he's not a storyteller. I think they're kind of sloppy. I think that he doesn't know how to write women really at all. Like you know, there's and he like his treatment of mental health and mental illness is really not good anyway.
It's really like I think there's a lot of filmmakers like that. Now who are They have all the power, and the thing they choose to do with that power is to just like be like I'm gonna do my own little stories, and they would be like so much better off just you know, finding finding other people's stories to tell.
Yeah, or like I don't know, send your draft to someone and get.
Well, he doesn't need him, because Mark I saw the thing. Martin Scorsese is like the pacing from Killers of the Flower Moon is like inspired by Midsommar and he's like, oh yeah, there's the fucking goat and I'm like, I wonder what that means for this movie.
Oh yeah, this guy's never gonna not make his own screenplays after this.
Yeah, yeah, you're goodbye to anything.
But like Scorsese, Spielberg, Kubrick, like those people all made other people's screenplays like those. You know, you can still be a good filmmaker and not just write bad screenplays and makers like the.
Two or However, many scripts that Steven Spielberg wrote are like not very good. He's a far better director than he screenwriter.
What are his I actually didn't even know the.
Oh, let me look it up here. They used to know this, but.
Ai I think oh I was a collaboration with Kubrick, which also yeah, like maybe yeah, it's but by Spielberg. And then the story by Ian Watson. Close Encounters are the third kind, right, that's written and directed by Spielberg.
Oh, and he wrote The Fableman's which tracks because it's like pretty autobious, but.
It makes sense.
I like didn't like that movie very much.
And then Goonies is Chris Columbus based on a story by Spielberg. I will, I will give him that one oldergeis pretty good, but that's also three people writing with a story by Spielberg.
Yeah.
I didn't realize until very recently that Richard Donner made Goonies, like directed Goonies. I always thought it was Christopher Columbus because he wrote the screenplay. Richard Donner like really was responsible for my entire childhood with like Supermanies and Lethal Weapon, which I saw way too young. I was like those are like my three favorite movies dog Friend, Yeah, those hit pretty pretty hard. What's something you think is underrated?
Kaylin?
I think that being transparent about why you do not want to go on another date with someone, whether that's like a second date or maybe you've had a few and then you're like, I'm not feeling this. I think being transparent about that is something that most people do not do. They just say they kind of like make up some generic excuse or they and obviously like it's a case by case thing, but like I just sent a message to someone who I went on a date with.
It was like pretty good conversation, but we had no kissing chemistry. He was not a good kisser, and so I kind of said that to him because he's now gonna go if like, if someone doesn't tell him right, he's just going to go through life being not good at kissing or not like tuning into someone else's like I don't know kissing energy.
What got out my high school girlfriend who saved me, who said do not keep your motherfucking eyes open? I was like kids for me, I'm like, yeah, I can't believe this. I'm doing this shit.
A deer in headlights.
But yeah, now that my high school girlfriend had to tell me to step saying wow wow wow wow.
No, but that is true. Yeah, no, I get that. I mean, and you're not trying to be a mean spirited I think, just being really honest about why. It's like, you know, we're just actually when it came down to the kissing part, I just felt like we're not kind of we're you know, you're playing jazz and I'm playing you know, the Deck of the Titanic music. You know what I mean.
And that is exactly how I would describe how I kiss the deck of the Titanic.
Has It's been an honor of playing with you this evening.
Mm just melancholy nobility.
And yes, if you're listening and you have ever kissed me and you can attest to that play.
Yes, full of transparent Embrace of death. Man, it was kissing. He was kissing like we were on the deck of the Titanic or some shit.
But no, I like different other guys, like at the end of a date one night, he the guy was like, do you wanna maybe do you want to do this again? And I'd say, honestly, I don't think we're very compatible, and you interrupted me a lot throughout the evening and that really turned me off. And he was like oh, and he was like taking aback at hard to hear criticism like that, especially because most people aren't so openly doling it out.
But I'm like.
Obsessed with like this transparency is all, you know. I'm trying to be constructive. I'm never cruel about it.
But sure object how many people? Yeah you was interrupted? You did that? That did happen? Well, what do you mean I was interrupting? Like right, let me cut you off right there? How how are you even how are you even defining like interrupted? Yeah?
So I'm just trying to teach men how to be better one day at a time.
Yeah, I'm sure they appreciate that. And your Halloween costume is no way inspired by their responses to that honest and constructive feedback.
What do you mean there's no kissing chemistry. I just like that. It's like a New York cop. I've been told I'm the best kisser in town. H give me another goal, give me another go. See. It's that it's that you you open everything.
All right, let's take a quick break. Shall we come back and talk about some news. We'll be right back, and we're back calen. Before before we get into the news, I was asking you because I've been talking on the show about these like Instagram activations, these like little sort of mini museum pop up museums that happen all over the place. And one of the ones closest to my house that I have not yet taken my kids where my wife too, is the Titanic exhibit. Are you are familiar with this?
I am so familiar. You would ask me if I had been to any of them, and I said, try, I have been to all of them. There's one in Vegas, which I've been to. There's a traveling one that came to la and I guess it's still here. I think it went last year because.
It's been over for like years. It's crazy.
I'm like, wait, what how is this still? These things usually come and go pretty quickly.
But right because it's gonna there's gonna be diminishing returns probably have to Yeah, but yeah, you were asking me if it was any good, and it's mostly like things that might have been on the Titanic. Here's a plate that was on a different ship that was made by the same company as Titanic.
Right, Yeah, here's a pair of pants.
Then people were definitely wearing pants on the tax Yeah, Cole, you ever heard about this stuff?
This is a power that they would have had in steerage.
Yeah. So they're not that impressive, but I still enjoy going.
Yeah, going nice. Yeah, So take your kids and family to go look at old places and some pants.
I gotta I gotta check it out.
Miles.
Yeah, Caitlyn, we've got to get caught up on these dang Trump trials.
Okay. I mean we talked about this at the end of last week, right when Sydney the Kraken Lady Powell yehipped and we're like oh, and then we're like, damn, she got like seven thousand dollars in fines and six months probation, Like, must be nice to whatever the fuck's going on. Now we have Jenna Ellis similar thing about six months or five years of probate or sorry, five years probation, five thousand dollars in restitution and she will, you know, not have to answer for her part in
this recode case. And so at the time I was like, what the fuck, Like, are they really gonna come with it? Because that's the only way you're going to be involved in like a like a Rico case that was meant to overturn a fucking election and only get six years proby.
But we'll see everyone seems to think that now it's getting more intense, maybe because there's three people that worked on this effort who are basically saying, hey, yeah, we're willing to just sing, just please don't allow us to see the inside of a jail.
And this is the lawyer who is like all over cable news during the election, basically being very confident.
Oh yeah, oh yeah, Bill, she was. She loved getting in front of the camera and screaming lies to everybody. But she says now to the judge, She's like, if I knew then what I knew now, I would have declined to represent Donald Trump in these post election challenges. I just want to play her doing a really I just love when people deploy the tears to try and get out of, you know, trouble. So she did give a tearful statement to the judge, and I just love
the way she started off her statement. Just we'll listen now.
As an attorney who is also a Christian mm hm, take responsibilities as a lawyer very seriously, and I endeavored to be a person of sound, moral and ethical character in all of my dealings.
But not a good actor. Not a good actor though I don't know if she's crying.
All she's doing is speaking in a high, shaky voice while touching her eye every.
Once in a while. They're weaponized white women tears. I've seen this one hundred times, and they are an effective tool in duck and avoiding accountability. So I do not blame jenn Ellis for just as a lawyer and a Christians Christian, Yeah, I'm just gonna touch the corners of my eyes. But yeah, this also spells more trouble for Rudy Giuliani. Blah blah blah. I'll believe it when I
see Trump in an orange jump suit. But speaking of Trump, now, this is three lawyers from the coup squad now copying plea deals and many were curious to get a comment from Donald Trump on whether, like or not he's worried about any of this. He was asked in New Hampshire two days ago whether or not he was, you know, like him constantly insisting that Sidney, who was part of the Trump legal team. Uh he swears, like she wasn't representing me. They're like, aren't you worried that like that
may eliminate your attorney client privilege? And his answer completely changed the game. Listen to this, yeah, listen to this.
No, not at all. I'm we did nothing wrong.
We did nothing.
This is all Biden. Indictments and impeachments, and this is all about Biden. You can't do anything right. The only thing they know how to do is cheat on elections and election frauds. You this is all by yourself, all of these indictments. Did you say I was never indicted?
Huh wait what I'm sorry you were what? I want one more time for the people in the back indictments?
Did you say I was never indicted? Practically never heard the word.
It wasn't a word and registered because cognitive decline.
I was never wait, I was never that from Is that from Q? Is that like Q shit where he's like been reading Q and on theories that like he was never indicted and like all this is a scam because like that doesn't even make sense, like given the laws of like the physical universe, he has to know he was indicted.
Changed the game Jack.
Well, he doesn't know he was indicted because he's never heard this word before.
It register, say, doesn't even register. Oh sorry, So that means there's something wrong with your brain and we need to get.
You to a hustle. Yeah, you fucking hear that? Byron, I was never indicted. Okay, practically never heard the word except for the numerous times I've heard it. And speaking of Joe Byron, this is another thing he said while he was saying, I am sure that he would beat Joe Biden's ass down in a fight. And I just see this is another stage he's at where he's throwing air jabs talking here. This is the man himself.
Remember but when Biden hardwat to take him to the back of the barn, I dream of that.
You know what I do with him?
Oh?
I do? Oh what? Oh he's a hit him? That fake those that's fake.
Those they have plastic lying all over the floor.
But I don't want to. I'm sorry.
What he doesn't know how plastic surgery were.
Does he have a did he have a rhinos? That's wow? Did you like that boxing form? I think he must be a south ball because he had that right hand out front in real tight jab like like one of those rock 'im soccer robots.
Good form, good good thoughts all around.
Yeah, yeah, they'll be plastic everywhere.
Yeah, he doesn't know what plastic surgery is.
What I'm saying is is that like an established.
Like I've never heard that thing in my life that, yeah, find a nose job.
Right, I mean, like, I guess he's got like veneers and like weird vinyl hair, but like that.
He definitely he's had a lot of lits of stuff called where they like, yeah, the stuff botox. He's been batoxed within an inch of the life. His face looks like like it's like being I don't know, his eyes are like being squeezed or something.
And I just love the plastic everywhere, like fighting a fucking like yeah yeah, based on his.
Yea fall off and be made of plastic and kick his ass.
And and then he also had this one of the other amazing moment where he kind of like had one of those like stoner realizations you have in high school, like after you like you take your first big bong rip and you start like like seeing the matrix of the world. Here's here's him talking about a cool new slogan that he just came up with. This is in our business? Is why you're doing that?
He said, mccron, nice guy. You know, look he's for friends.
I'm for I'm for us, I'm for us. You know how you spell us?
Right?
You spell us us?
I just picked that up. Has anyone ever thought of that being?
I just picked that up a couple of days.
I'm reading and it said us, and.
I said, you know, do you think about it?
Us equals us?
Isn't that now?
If we say something genius, they'll never said?
You know. He goes on to like brag about, wait, is he trying to do stand up comedy?
I don't.
He's always trying to do stand up comedy.
But that's that was I was like his school project that he went that went well that he wanted to tell his parents about. You know, I just realized us us us. Huh. I'm reading a I'm reading. I'm reading and it said you it said us and they said, you know you think about it? Oh, sequels.
They'll never And the thing I just said was so genius. They'll never reprint it because it's so genius.
Because I'm merely spelling a word.
And he is the first one to make this observation, so we do have to give him credit for that.
That's true. That's true. That is true. So yeah again, still got stressed at all? Yeah, yeah, he doesn't seem stressed. No one. Thing I just want to touch on before we move on is, I know the speakership thing has always been like, I don't care what the fuck's going on with this? What does it fucking matter?
I never I should care. Everybody, let smart people care about this. I'm having a hard time caring though. I don't necessarily care because I'm like, oh no, the progressive legislation that's been passed time and again by this Congress will cease.
So from that. From that, from that perspective, I'm like, yeah, sure, like minimally keep the government funded. But the bigger picture here is, you know, looking at this jack with a little bit of historical precedents here, and I know you rolled your eyes so far into the back of your
head backship brained my eyeballs. I don't care, dude, I look at it right now about like how they are fighting right and they're like deadlocked, And a lot of people have always said, like, oh, the maga takeover is the end of the Republican Party, Like it's like as we know it. But I think this, like impast they're at, is closer to the kinds of like traditional like party
collapses or intro party fighting that we've seen historically. You know, a few people have mentioned, like the Whig Party and like in the lead up to the Civil War, how it fell apart because of the Kansas Nebraska Act and there was like a whole eating Kansas thing and basically it split the Whig Party between pro slavery and those people who were like free soilers or like anti slavery, and that that made the party just poof, it went away.
Everyone went their other routes, they went into other parties. I'm saying this has the potential to have the kind of like diminished power for a party and ends up helping another, like the the opposition party win unfortunately without having to do much because of like the infighting, like it happened before with Teddy Roosevelt trying to like do a coup within the party, or even like how the Vietnam War split Democrats and then a Republican wins the
next election Nixon. So like you because I'm looking at this from the perspective of there's like twenty four ish people and the Republicans that are like absolutely, we're not gonna let the Jim Jordan wing take over, and Jim Jordan and that side has like responded with like physical threats of violence to people, and it's that kind of like fracturing that I'm like, oh, yeah, this might be more closer to like the party literally just like breaking
apart on some level more than like the speakership, but like what this says about like the health of the party. So just just an observation that interests me.
So and then they would break apart into some some new party that we've not yet heard of that hasn't been invented, yeah.
Or yeah, or like some some Republicans end up being like yeah, you know, the Democrats are actually a center right party, so I'm a Democrat, like or there's some kind of other political realignment because again you have there's a voting block too that's like MAGA or nothing. But then you also have these other Republicans who are like nerds who are like what about like like legislating, and you know most of the parties like no, no, no, we don't have a policy agenda. It's just to say
no to whatever Democrats do and that's it. And so I don't know, I mean, like it's it's like along those lines, I can see something potentially spell you know, Like again, it's just gonna weaken the party. At best, it weak the party. At worst. Maybe you're gonna see real fracturing or people just resigning, which is another thing that I'm seeing, Like people are just gonna get ousted.
But this the the Republican Party is definitely they're they're they're fucking up bad and it's going through some terrible things.
Fortunately, obviously I'm not the first one to make this observation that US equals US, because that was Donald Trump, just like the the it's so wild that there are only two major parties in this country, because the disparity between like people who are on the far left and centrists is enormous, Like the disparity between people who are on the far right and centrist is like pretty big.
Like it just doesn't make any sense that there's like this enormous, vast spectrum and only two parties that represent it. I still cannot wrap my mind around it, right.
I see it, Like, you know, the polling right now is really bad, like with young voters, like Biden support just cratered over the last week because of everything that's happening in Palestine. Hey yeah, but like that's like where you like, and this is the thing that many progressives
have talked about. It's like, you know, Democrat whether it's Democrats and progressives always saying like they're just gonna court you know, people like that are further left than the like the center left party or you know, the establishment Democrat party just court their votes and then just immediately, immediately just do the opposite of what they said once they get power that you see, like the potential for
these things. Now, I don't know what how how that happened formally right now, but it's true, like people are getting further and further from like their establishment i'd say, but like obviously on the right it's more because they're like we need an f no state. And then on the left it's like, how about people don't go broke because they have cancer, right like and that and that
that's kind of our options. But in the middle with the Republicans and Democrats, like we've said before, you have two parties that are basically doing gonna advocate for the same thing right at the end of the day, So.
They join up become like center party, and then you have like small mega wing and small progressive wing. Is like one of the ways that it could go. I guess, I mean, I don't know. I mean sure, like without looking at what the actual mechanics are, but you definitely see that there are these specific blocks of voters, and increasingly progressives and leftists are like, man, I don't know if the fuck is going on with the Democrats, because like we're not seeing humane policy at every turn.
We're just seeing a lot of Ah, we're just gonna do a little takebacks from things we promised. Yeah, psych, Yeah, a series of psychs. Yeah, we'll do that, psych psych. Thanks for your vote, yeah yeah.
And I mean a lot of like it makes sense that you're speaking historically because these are like historical, historically unprecedented levels of incompetence and like not being able to get somebody elected, right.
Yeah, like when you can't even like dis like you can't even have a census choice for speaker. Yeah, it didn't work.
Yeah, and like it I think right viewed in the context of like day to day cable news, it's like, ah, those these jokers in Washington can't get it together once again, what else is new? But and all I do is watch CNN and m yeah, CN Fox News. That's I'm just mainline in that shit. But yeah, from a more historical perspective, it's like, oh, they they don't like haven't a They're not a functioning political party anymore. Yeah, maybe at a certain point it just falls apart.
But yeah, and I think the other the other side of that coin, too, is America is not even close to being the same as these other you know, these other examples. So who knows if this is even uncharted territory in the sense of like and it didn't collapse and it fully you know, brought together all of the fascists together under one party R and that's where we're at. But again, yeah, the intraparting fighting, like I mean, like just I was just reading about the people who are
getting death threats. Like in one of the meetings, another Republican congress person was defending the fact that people were getting death threats for not voting for Jim Jordan. They're like, well, they're getting death threats because they didn't vote for Jim Jordan.
Yeah, and like they knew what was good for them, they would vote for him.
That was a death threat that you just said. Yeah, I don't know, but maybe that's but it sounds like if you vote for Jim Jordan, you wouldn't get death threats because I voted for Jim or I didn't get a death threat. Okay, so that's interesting. But I don't know, and you.
Did, Yeah, yeah, I mean, it's does feel like more and more we're becoming aware that like they are doing the bidding of like not the people who are supposed to be voting for them. I don't know if that's I don't know if that's more and more the case, or if we're just like becoming more and more aware of it that they're just kind of these zombie institutions doing the bidding of corporations and profits.
Certainly, like younger voters don't have the same like rose tinted glasses of like making a ton of money in the eighties, that like colors, the way they look at like our government, you know, our government. They're like, man, it's all been fucked up the whole time, and so it's funny when you see like these octogenarians and powered, like what the hell are what's wrong with these young kids? Like they're they're smarter, they're more informed than like I
was when I was fucking eighteen. That's the fucking difference.
It's uh yeah, And there's like not a single person in Congress like they're they're they're so far away from having anything in place that like honors that that truth, you know, that is like, you know, reflective of the fact that all this is bullshit that I yeah, I don't know, like we probably are headed for like unprecedented things and the breakup of political parties and stuff. So I'll give it a snooze minus. So stuff's still all right.
Bored by the whole thing.
But uh maybe you.
Know, it's not funny. Years, it won't even matter because we'll all just be like mad maxing our way through water war life, the water wars.
Yeah, water World though, everything about that.
Yeah, yeah, you go on a vacation to water World after you do your mad maxing day to day Monday through Friday. All right, let's take a quick break. We'll be right back, and we're back, and women in Iceland, including the Prime minister have gone on strike. They went on strike on Tuesday, tens of thousands of women. This is part of the and I'm definitely gonna nail the
pronunciation of this go ahead, Fenoffrey, Sure, why not? Or Women's Day off to protest the ongoing gender gap and gedder based violence.
It's pronounced glioc.
Actually, oh, I got it. This is the fucking eye, that's right.
That's what cut to like the people in the Icelandic like parliament on this day, and they're.
Like, how do we fucking beat this? I hear you have to shoot it in the eye listening to this podcast.
Yeah, but this has been going on for a long time. I think that they're saying this is the biggest one since nineteen seventy five when ninety percent of Iceland's female population went on strike, and there have been a number since then. I think there's been seven of these, like nationwide strikes over over the past fifty years. This this is supposed to be the biggest one in fifty years.
But I don't know.
Like the people are pointing out that Iceland has been ranked the best country in the world for women by the World Economic Forum fourteen years in a row, and you know, the prime ministers like, but we still have
a lot of work to do. And it's just it would seem to me to be like worth noting that a nation that is engaging in this like massive direct action collective protest and has been for fifty years, has also been the best country in the world for women by the World Economic Forum fourteen years in a row. Like that feels like the sort of thing that you would remark on and like would be everybody would know about if it weren't so counterproductive to profitability.
You know, paly hold on, Yeah, half the workforce is going to take a day off and they want to be paid more. Oh no, no, we can't have that. We can't.
Yeah, I mean it also just goes to show that the country where it seems like quality of life for women is like better than most places in the world and are still not happy and they're still like survivors of gender based violence and you know, pay gap issues, and so it's which makes me I'm like, oh God, can we in the US and so many other countries like get together and do the same thing. Yeah, because the best country in the world for this is still
like there's still inequality and disparity. So imagine where we are.
Oh right, yeah, you know the US is on that list, Like are we do one hundred? Like gotta be two? Come on, No, the top three are all Scandinavian countries. What Iceland, Norway, Finland, New Zealand obviously not New Zealand and Sweden. US all the way down at number forty three. Oh, come on, one hundred and forty six, so at least the we're the top half top.
Wow, out of what one hundred countries?
One hundred and forty six that they yeah, number forty where forty three? Where forty three? Yeah, we're just Columbia just has the edge on US and Belarus. Wow.
Embarrassing for wow and US or the US?
Which is it? Is it both? Wow? I just thought about that. That's great.
Yeah, same same.
Fucking mind up here, folks.
Happened? It's wild, It's wild.
Yeah, this this does feel like, I don't know, it should be there should be a movement to make this a international thing because I think it would be helpful for people to have this reminder that, you know how the importance like the power of women that they can bring everything to a halt, and I think like having that tool in the arsenal like is probably a big reason why they're towards towards the front of progress.
You know, how do you even organize something like that? Though, Like I imagine it's easier to do it in Iceland, right, but like I can't even imagine that working in the US in terms of like just getting people organized and on board and actually doing it.
Yeah, right, right, Well, I think when you have like good social safety nets, it's easy for a person to be like, you know what, I'm going to take the fucking day off. Right, But is the.
Problem with good social safety nets, folks?
Yeah, it'd encourage people to think for themselves and shit, rather than to be caught in the endless loop of toil in order to Yeah. So yeah, that's the other thing that I really think of. Yeah, we're we are not where we're basically set up in the most hostile way for workers or people who have to work to like take up for themselves. Thanks Nick Avin Newsom for vetoing that bill that would have gave striking workers unemployment benefits.
But it's okay, it's all good. Yeah, running for president, we get it.
We get it, there's more more evidence that collective action works, you know, not not and not saying that like what they're protesting, Like the fact that they're still protesting is you know, not serious because they're at the front of the you know, but they we I think the fact that they are leaders in this people should be taking that as a reason to try and organize something similar, like closer to home.
Close to Yeah, because it's not just like work, like going into your paid work. It's like if you're doing duties within your home, like yeah, tools down, Like this is meant to resonate at every fucking way. How yeah, how much we depend on, you know, the labor of these people.
I'm not even gonna flush my toilet when I go on striketh No, I'm kidding.
Yeah, strike for fucking thirty years, man, Still it ain't change it.
Literally, you guys are ready for Tailor's conspiracy theory.
Is it a good one?
No, it's not a good one.
I'll just I just love to tell you, I honestly, I'm it's taking over my brain because then the repetition from the media of like microanalyzing every single thing about her life, it's like gotten to me now and I'm like, her and Travis held hands again leaving Arrowhead Stadium. That was a fucking headline on Sunday, right, Yeah, they're dating. What the fuck are we? What? This is like a
high school newspaper. They held they held hands after the football game, and they left in his dad's convertible.
People are just truly I don't know everything she does. I did watch one of her reactions to a touchdown or a near touchdown, and I was like, man, still still have not seen a false move from her. She's just always exactly perfect, And it's like did she practice that one thousand times, just how to react in that moment?
Yeah? Right, the like different ways like yes, or like okay, too aggressive? How about one like oh that's fucking gold. That was another one that.
But I think it's just that she has been watched like since she was twelve years old, so she like doesn't She's just constantly camera aware at all times, and yeah, is like the new Yeah, terribly lonely high a higher level of human of camera aware celebrity human. But anyways, she's also writing spy novels according to fans, so this is sure.
This this one's pretty dumb.
So back in twenty twenty one, the guy made the Kingsman movies, Matthew Vaughan claimed that his new movie was based on a yet to be published spy novel Argyle by an unknown author named Ellie Conway, and the trailer for the movies out. It stars Henry cavill as like a Bond type superspy Bright, Dallas Howard as Ellie Conway, the author who created him. Did you see the trailer?
Yeah, yeah, yeah, it's actually it actually looks kind of I'm not gonna lie. I was like, all right, let's see, and I'm like, okay, yeah.
It reminds me of like Romancing the Stone or what was that newer movie that came out with Sandra Bullock.
And I thought that was Romancing but yeah, yes, yeah, so like Ryan to Meta one right where she the rom com writer and then gets lost City the Last City City.
She's not.
It's not a rom come rider. She's like an adventure writer and yes, which is the same premise as Romancing the Stone, which is Kathleen Turner from the eighties.
Yea, yes, but anyways, like the the whole thing, the book, He's like, I got my hands on this book. It's the best adventure spy novel I've ever read. I'm gonna make a movie out of it. The novel has never come out, and nobody can find Ellie Conway as like an actual living human being, and people are like, oh, this is just like a spot like away. It's he he wrote a screenplay essentially, is what it seems like, right, And and then yeah, I started doing like some grilla marketing.
But yeah, so it seems like she doesn't exist and the book is like some sort of tie in gimmick and.
Pretty pretty straightforward.
But now, like online Taylor Swift, conspiracy theorists are speculating the book was secretly written by Taylor Swift and that Eli Conway is her pen name.
And what leads them to believe this?
All right, the evidence is pretty strong. Evidence is kind of basically impossible to argue with. Okay, so she's written songs under pseudonyms.
Ah, that's it, all right, We're done here.
Not under the pseudonym Elie Conway. But that's not just under studonyms Conway. His profile picture is a coffee cup, which you might notice the coffee cup seen in Midnights also a coffee cup. Okay, the spoon is even pointing toward the midnight direction of a clock, so it would be like twelve o'clock.
Okay.
Ellie Conway in the trailer played by Bryce Styles Howard has a cat backpack similar to Taylor Swift's and owns the same breed of cat that Taylor Swift does. Okay, also that Matthew Vaughn does.
But what if Jack stay on task.
Here, Yeah, Matthew Vaughn is Taylor. Oh everything about that.
Matthew Vaughn is Swift.
Okay, that's called christ consciousness. Vaughn is Swift.
And then like, so up to this point, I was like, guys, this seems a little shaky. But then Nail in the coffin Taylor Swift has worn argyle sweater.
Naha, well there it is ce Jack has used a pseudonym, has a cat, and has Warren. It's clearly she's writing spy novels in between being an already fucking one of the busiest human beings I think on the planet right now.
But yes, okay, did you notice that during some of the Chiefs games, like she wasn't on camera and like where was she? Probably writing spy novel would be My guess, Yeah, I like this. When you look at what the plot of the movie is, it it seems very much in line with what the director and writer of the Kingsman movies would write, and not necessarily in line with what Taylor.
Swift would.
She had to guess the type of movie the Taylor Swift would write. Would it involve like people who are like sick with weapons and like just do awesome shooting stuff to one another.
Yes, it would be a.
Lot of gunplay in the Taylor Swift movie, obviously.
That's I mean. But this to the point that, uh, you know, we've we've talked about a lot about stan culture replacing like religion. This does feel very like like uber Christian type ship where you're like, no, that wasn't that touchdown? Wasn't that player? That was God? Actually Jesus. Yeah, you know what I mean this script. I know that you're saying, Matthew Vaughan wrote it. It is actually God, Taylor Swift. That's right. Every all things are possible through her,
That's right. That yeah, But again, hey, I love the dedication. Love the dedication. She's Ron Howard's daughter, right.
Bryce Dallas Howard yes, yes, And if you believe my conspiracy theory, so is Taylor Swift.
Wow, yeah, he's actually Clint Howard's daughter. That would be amazing.
The I do wonder if there is some genius marketing firm out there that is just like threading this conspiracy theory, seating this conspiracy theory so that because they're just like, if you just say Taylor Swift secretly involved in this project, it's going to get it so many headlines, so much.
Attention, butts in seats.
Yes, so yeah, it's it's a propaganda tactic. Yeah, you know, it's like we should be using it. Well, yeah, you create associations, right to get people to be like, what this thing is associated? Therefore, now I'm on board with that. So therefore, yeah, genius.
Genie Miles has been Taylor Swift this whole time.
Yeah, her majesty. You thought that her majesty was Stop Jack, Now you're crossing the line. You said you respected on my relationship with Taylor. Man. Hey, I'm just saying, don't don't put them on that don't regal for.
Many reasons, you know, I'm just saying, a true queen.
Oh my god.
Well, Caitlin Dourantom. What a pleasure having you on the show. Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff?
You can mostly I'm on Instagram these days, and that's even barely the case, but you can follow me at Caitlin Derante. But the main thing I really want to plug is I have some screenwriting workshops and classes coming up.
I have.
Two two day Sorry that's confusing. I teach a screenwriting workshop that is over the course of two days, so like a Saturday and a Sunday, two hours each, and I have two of those coming up, one in mid November, one in mid December, and that you'll learn like screenwriting basics, and then I have an intro to screenwriting class that'll start in the new year, early January. And yeah, so I just have a bunch of screenwriting things that I
will be teaching. And you can go to my website Caitlin Durante dot com slash classes for like the registration links and more details.
And I know you legally said you weren't allowed to comment on whether Taylor Swift has taken your courses or not, but but.
So I'll just leave it there. I'll just leave it there.
Yeah, you can't you can't comment on whether she did that in preparation for writing the screenplay for Argyle.
But I'll do a little wink and then yeah, then you'll kind of know. Did just do a little wink. It's like a very little wink.
But oh my god, affirmed confirmed, confirmed, confirmed, confirm it, he goes. Just don't ask her lawyers. Uh, is there a work ap media that you've been enjoying?
Yes, I love and would recommend the movie Dix the Musical in theaters now. I had a blast. I thought it was so funny. You love your super boys, super Boys, Oh my gosh, those.
That meet and side and people walked out.
I am yes, it is the movie. It is the type of movie that some people would walk out of, but they're incorrect.
And yeah, and I choked them out. Every person. I want to tell you a tough guy, stand behind the door. Yeah, where you going? Where you going? Oh? You didn't Oh you didn't like the you don't like the themes too extreme for you.
And if you want a little teaser for kind of what the type of movie it is, I would recommend listening to the Meghan the Stallion song out Alpha the Alpha, which happens in the movie, and it's so great.
Man, it was. It's a wild movie. It's wild music. It went from a UCB show to a full on feature film with Megan Malalley. Oh really yeah, Nathan Lane, Nathan Lane, Magan the Stallion. It's it's wild. It's wild. Like when you watch it, you will not believe that this is a movie that has been made. It's it's it's so against everything that you think like movies. I don't know, it's like in a very great subversive way. Yeah, amazing, Bowen Yang. Also wo that really plays God plays literal god.
Okay, that's in the trailer for this.
Yeah.
Yeah, Miles, where can people find you? What's work media you've been enjoying give? Find me on Twitter, Instagram at Miles of Gray. Also find us on our basketball podcast, Miles and Checks. The NBA season has finally begun as this upon.
Us don't know what happened in that, We don't know, so let's just pretend it was a victory for everybody evolved. And also find me on four twenty fiance and also The Good Thief, the true crime podcast talking about the Greek robin Hood. It's only eight episodes, so please check that out. A tweet I like is from at Brook. Perrin tweeted, the VET called my seven year old dog a senior, which is impossible because she's just a baby.
Like she and I discuss it often about how she's just a tiny little baby, which I fucking think of that shit all the time. That it's jarring to think of your gray haired dog. Oh my god, basically a senior. No, no, this.
Is tis a baby, This is tis but a last Yeah, tweet I've been enjoying. Noah Garfinkel tweeted, the only experience I've ever had reading a haikup is counting syllables in my head and then thinking they're right, it's a haiku, and that that is the only way I can encounter a haiku. You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore with Brian. You can find us on Twitter at
Daily Zeikeist. We're at the Daily Zeikeys on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website, Daily zeikes dot com, where we post our episodes on our footnotes, where we link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy, Miles, is there a song that you think people might enjoy?
Yeah, I think some people were gonna like this track. It's by an artist called A Soul Child. It's spelled s O l d h y l D. Yeah. Yeah, somebody's been in the lab. She's from New Jersey and MC and again I love her like rapping style. It's very reminiscent of the golden era of hip hop, especially from that New York, New Jersey area. So check this track out. It's called n b C by A Soul Child.
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