Hello the Internet, and welcome to this very special year end holiday prestige casting episode of Daley's I Say production of iHeartRadio.
This is a podcast where we take a.
Deep devnt American share consciousness, and our team is now taking a little break key so we are recording year end episodes way back in. We're recording this one on December eleventh. Little people behind the curtain and miles of them feeling well. But we've got an amazing roster. My name's Jack O'Brien and I'm surell to be joined by today's special guest co host, super producer, the inventor of prestige casting, the inventor of on a streaming corner, it's.
On a hose ne.
Hi, Hi, Hi, So good to see Yeah, great to see you too.
We're also there will be joined by a super producer back.
At Ramos and the writer of our show, mister j M McNab.
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So this is the story of streaming.
This is uh the streaming app where we look back at the year in TV shows that I did not partake in, but super producer on Jos is always on this ship and telling me why I'm a full for watching.
I tend to if I have a free moment, I will watch.
A film instead of a streaming show because streaming shows take longer. A lot of people complain about movies being too long. Have you seen these fucking streaming shows, man, since it take like fucking thirteen dang hours some freaking times. Anyways, but there's a lot of fun stuff TV can do that streaming cannot. And so Anna, I will turn it over to you what happened this year in streaming?
I would say we had a lot of great shows come out this year. I would say we had a lot of great shows end this year as well, So you know, we're in a bit of a renaissance of the TV era, which you know could mean anything. That literally means anything, it could also mean nothing at the same time. Isn't it incredible how like you can just
say whatever you want? Anyway, I actually want to go through my list of just great shows that ended this year and then we can maybe talk about what you didn't watch.
Which is everything, Yeah, basically everything except for Succession.
Have you guys seen Succession? Have you heard about this.
I want to talk about Succession because you know everyone said season three or no excuse me, season four was. It started off so slow and then we hit episode three, and I just want to say episode three of Succession season four, which was the last season, was a real a feat in television making. I gotta say. It was one long, sort of consecutive shot for the most part, or at least how it was presented in the edit,
but it was a devastating episode. I'm not going to spoil if you guys haven't seen it, but season season four, episode three is I think the pinnacle of television filmmaking.
Hey, guys, I think.
For most of time, incredible television. And also it ended that was sad. Oh god, I loved Succession. It was so fun. It was so fun until it fucking wasn't. Dude.
Yeah, it had us by the neck. And what did it say to us? What Succession when off? Okay, we get it, all right.
You're a real Brian Cox, We get all right.
I just you know, I didn't no, no, no impression, and nobody said anything.
Go ahead say it again.
No, that's all right, I got it. Let's let's move on. I have some impressions of Barry's catchphrases.
Yeah, so Barry ended. I will say Barry is a completely different show from when it started to when it ended.
Yeah, I did watch this one too, Holy ship Man.
Was that the impression?
Yeah, that's what was that? That? That's my impressure on me watching it? Said this is bleak. Oh he said bleak.
They just said, yeah, I think it's fun to say bleak in a high pitched voice too, you know, yeah, yeah.
I mean I felt like the first season was relatively grounded, as grounded as you can be when uh an assassin is trying to make it in Hollywood, and then the show just kept getting weirder and weirder and more esoteric, like he'd have these dream sequences on the beach and everything, and then, in a weird way, the final episodes did go back to that grounding in a very dark way, and I'm like, oh, I wasn't really on board with a lot of the dream sequences, but I kind of
wish we would go back because this is making me very, very uncomfortable. But it is like very prestige television.
Yeah, yes, it's very very dark. You know, it's interesting.
I saw more of like, what's his name? Uh, what's the name of the guy, and Barry Barry, Phil Hayter, BARRYL was like, wait a second, this this could be Miami. And then it was just like should we just like put on the pedal, like no looking back? Yeah, And then you know, they were like, yeah, sure, whatever you want to do.
Had he not want an Emmy yet or this could be like his the Emmy to end all Emmy's.
I think this was the the sort of Emmy to uh like Oscar Dream Pipeline in a way, because he was like all of a sudden like no, no, no, I'm a serious actor and director.
I hope he directs a film film soon because I feel like there's a lot of heat, a lot of anticipage around what he would do with a film. I just I recently saw the Mister Robot Guys first film, I think, which I think I remember there being a lot of anticipation around that one, and this one might as well not exist like Mister Robot Guys. Sorry, sorry to take it back to film. That was the last episode we recorded. But yeah, I don't know.
I feel like he would direct a really good action movie.
Yeah, no, no, I agree with that. I think you would do a great job. I'll give some Oh, you know what, Reservation Dogs also ended this year. I want to say the final season of Reservation Dogs was very beautifully done. If you haven't seen it, I really recommend checking it out. It was just so it was just beautiful.
You know. It also sort of departed from its original sort of format I guess if you will, which was a little bit more sort of like, look at these sort of kooky characters in this reservation who are trying to make it and survive and deal with what life has handed them and the experience of the Native American in this country. And then I would say the final
season was more introspective than ever before. I thought it was just like really well done, uh, looking at like the different characters in their lives and their backgrounds and how the older sort of elders of the group on the show came to be. And I thought they did a really great job of ending that show, even though in my opinion, it shouldn't have ended.
But you know what, this industry's like, I do.
I actually watched a lot of TV this year that us think about it compared to what I thought heading into this episode You've got white Lotus that happened to hear it? Yes, watch that ship count it Swish from downtown.
You watch the Other Two which also ended this year.
Which ended this year. That was good though, Man, that was what a what a season?
Yeah, that was I would say season three of was it season three or whatever I came up? It was a four I forget. But that final season of the Other Two was also a great feat in television filmmaking because once again they were able to sort of do what they wanted while at the end of the show having a hit piece come out about them. So, I mean, honestly, great job, great job all around, you get a hit piece, you put on an incredible season of television. That's how you wanted to hear.
Your season of television was so damn good that they were scared of you.
Your season of.
Television was so damn good.
There were hr complaints, you know, like it's too fucking good man. Yeah, Megan zaz Lot scared.
Like the creators are becoming the characters television.
Baby, right, Yeah, or they were just mean to people, but I don't know, or maybe.
The show was so real that they themselves were the other two and thus the characters are manifest manifested from a very deep place of insecurity and why the show was so good and ni every single aspect of being sort of like a sort of societal and industry reject.
So anyway, your show is so good.
I stuck around and watched you guys get interviewed and talk about the show after every episode, and so therefore I cannot believe you would be mean to people and love you.
I believe it. That's why the show was so good. It's because they were just playing themselves.
But they were just writing. It wasn't the act. Yeah, it was the no But if you look at.
Photos of the creators, you're like, this is just them?
Yeah you know, yeah, all right, what are what are the other ones?
Like? The Idol was a big story this year for just being offensive and bad. But what what was the thing though?
Like how bad was it really? Because you know, the weekend did donate a bunch of money to Gaza, So I'm not here being like I don't know, maybe them was good? What am I mad at? I watched it. I was definitely like, holy shit, what is happening on screen? It kept my attention so you know what, I don't. You're back, baby, I'm willing to go back. I'm willing to go try it. I was. I'm not mad on it. Maybe pro I don't know. Also, I just want to give a quick shout out to how To with John Wilson,
which ended. I thought that was a.
Great ending for a show I watched the first time the penis enlargement episode that obviously didn't come out this year.
But uh oh no, that's the difference. Is that? Is that how To with John Wilson? Yeah?
I don't recall that episode, so it must.
Just pop up on your brows.
Yeah, yeah, how should tone it down a little?
It was it was the one that was like about furniture, like where it's following people who keep their furniture in wrapped in plastics. Yeah, how to cover your furniture? How To with John Wilson. And then it takes a turn into a guy who's like a obsessed with penis enlargement, and then you're just seeing him laying playing on his bed with a.
Weird strap on his penis.
No, it's that show really takes you places.
It really takes you places like holy shit, how To Do with John Wilson is an incredible work of art.
It really is. And like when he's at the Emmys and he's not even on the list for the uh HBO after party even though his name is literally like on his show. Incredible stuff, like the absolute disrespect for that show.
Yeah, that's insane.
Good for him, he created incredible television. They couldn't handle the truth so loved it.
As a father of children, I got to give a shout out to Bluie, which continues to be great. I don't even know if they had a new episodes. This is a you know, it's relevant. I think I think it's up some new I mean.
I've heard wonderful things about Bluey Blue.
It's you can watch it with your kids and they don't like like a lot of the ship that they watch. They they're just like a little bit worse after you watch it with them, like your soul has like been corrupted by whatever you just watched.
And then Bluey it's just like Pow Patrol, Paw patrol.
Yes, very bad they cops or Cayu.
We're not We're not.
A Kyu family had to pet sit a dog named Kyu for the holiday, but the family spelt it see a y O U with an accent over the U. So interesting choice was made there.
On what what are some other shows from this year that they you feel like people might have missed?
Yeah, some shows that haven't aired in.
A minute because I watch everything, But other.
They haven't aired in a minute, so you might have forgotten about them. But like Yellow or excuse me, White Lotus like you said before, Yellow jackets Queen Charlotte if you're a sort of a horny shondaland fan.
Oh that was the queen from the Bridgerton Yes, yes.
Yeah, interesting? Uh some other Oh remember Beef? Yes, really hard, You've got buried hard unfortunately due to the contriversity, which is unfortunate because I did really enjoy that show.
But you know, yeah, I feel very conflicted watching it because I did really enjoy it, but I felt like the cloud of David Show could not not ruin it for me.
So they did, in a way curse themselves by casting David Show. But yeah, what you hey, you know what, you make your choices.
All right, let's take a quick break and we'll come back and continue to talk about shows that took the streaming world by storm over you're right back, and we're back, and we are thrilled to be joined by our resident Suits expert super producer Becca Ramos.
Yes, Suit, did you watch Suits? Remind me, did you watch Suits when it was first on?
Yes? Okay, So.
My TV journey is that I think I used to watch a lot of TV when I was younger, and now I kind of share the same opinion as Jack is that if I'm gonna have time for something, I'm going to watch a movie. I'm not going to watch a TV because I think I get overwhelmed. But there's so much TV now with streaming, and there's a zillion seasons and things are super long and binging, and it just it's too much and I just need If I'm gonna watch TV, I'm zoning out. I'm watching a syndicated television.
I'm watching House, I'm watching Suits. I'm watching Law and Order SVU. Okay, you can catch me watching Stage nineteen. I if it is syndicated, I'm watching it, and or I am watching reality TV. So when Suits came back into popular demand, what was it the summer? I think on Netflix because they dropped on Netflix. I rewatched that Bad Boy and I was like, this shit is wild. I came on to TDZ I remember to talk about it.
It was fun.
I actually kind of did give up on it a little bit quickly in because I just felt like the tension between Mike and Are Yeah, I was like our Dutchess, Megan Marcle people, our people's queen. I felt like it was too much for me. I was like, I just hate that they're fighting. And I stopped watching because he was mad. I think I quit right after she was mad that he wouldn't cheat for her on her el SAT or her whatever Logsam that tracks.
Based on the fifteen second trailer that I saw over and over every time I turned on Netflix. There, I might want to try out suits. I think you're gonna like suits. Yeah, but that seemed to be like there's a non linear thing happening where it's like, not only are people like not watching whatever is on TV at the moment, like on cable TV or linear TV. People aren't watching things that came out this year, like the number one show seemed to be suits. Every time I
looked at the ratings. And yeah, I talked before about how that dinosaur show that came out last year, there was like a David Attenborough show. It came out on Apple TV, and it just like didn't exist because it came out on Apple TV.
They're just like, no, what, shut the fuck up? No, nobody like that.
Then Netflix did the basically the exact same thing, used a David Attenborough like production team, but gave the voiceover work to Moriam Freeman. It was like a competing project and it like The New Yorker wrote a profile on it. It was like this massive hit because it was on Netflix. So it's just I feel like being on Netflix give is giving shows like a whole second win. It's like, yeah, it's like that, Oh, your show doesn't really exist until it comes out on Netflix.
I feel like it's been like that for a while though.
Yeah.
I feel like Netflix because what they'll do is just like serve it up in that new I think they rechanged their I don't know what to call it, their homepage. Yeah, I think they changed out the format of their homepage recently, the way it serves you things. So then it's just like, yeah, you gotta watch suits, even though the show super old, you.
Gotta watch suits.
Uh.
And I don't feel like Hulu you get that as much, but maybe because I'm watching SVU right now, I'm getting a lot of ads on Hulu specifically, it's like, you want to check out CSI New York, like that really old shows in New York.
What's that It's now on Hulu.
Our numbers say you do, so you're not wrong.
Yeah, God damn, they're really It's hard to find the Nielsen ratings for like the most streamed shows of the year.
I know, I was trying to find something before we got on, and even if it was like Rotten Tomatoes or something, but it just kept giving me premiere dates like of episodes or shows, and I was like, no, I'm looking for, like, what were the top shows this year?
Because does Nielsen track like streamers like Netflix, and I think they do.
Yeah, but they're like keeping it a secret. Yeah, it's weird wild Uh Yeah.
I mean there were when I was looking up what TV show this year for this episode, there were so many shows I'd never heard of. And then there are also like shows I'd watched half of that I'd completely forgotten, Like I honestly like forgot i'd watched them until I saw that today googling it like that seth Rogan show that was on Apple Patonic.
Oh, I actually watch a great I have a list of great Apple TV shows that were slept on.
Yeah, it was a good show. I just like forgot about it because I never turn on Apple TV.
This whole streaming world like makes no sense. Bluie is at number one as we speak, and but it's like hasn't released new episodes and forever.
It's just people are like, I don't know, they're at home with their kids.
It's just like it's not a suits is continuing to be in the top ten. They haven't released episodes in seven years. It just it's not a event based thing anymore,
which seems like it sucks. Like it seems like it sucks for the industry and they should be I'm not saying they should like bury the shows that people actually want to watch, and I'm sure that's like more cost effective, but it does feel like you would want to like make shows coming out and being watched by a bunch of people an event that people like paid attention to
and like market it. But instead they're just it's all kind of in this weird between area where it's like, yeah, well if it comes back out on Netflix, or like it hits the Netflix algorithm again, it will kick back up.
I feel like they do that for things that they could turn into like an amusement park, like I know, Last of Us got so much shit, and just recently, in like Halloween Horror Nights, there was a Last of Us maze. I don't know how you could do like a horror maze of beef or something, you know, or the rehearsal. It just doesn't fit that way, and therefore they can't market it in that way.
The beef needs to like turn into a fast and furious style thing where it's just like road Rage, the TV show road Ridge the Ride.
That's true, The Last of Us was huge. That was a huge show this year.
That huge.
Yeah, that can't be true. You guys are all right because.
It was in the summer. I remember because my partner sister was staying with us this summer and she was loving or not, she's a big fan of show. She was checking in every week.
Huh.
I am gonna continue to not believe you.
Anna.
You said that Apple TV had some had some hits that people are sleeping on.
Yeah, I mean I thought so, Like uh, jam said Platonic then there was shrinking The Big The Big Door Prize was really fine.
That's just a random assortment of words.
Hello tomorrow, what is the Big Door Prize?
I literally was googling it. Cru so down show that was like really interesting kind of sci fi but also like really funny and well written. I really enjoyed it.
So it's like because that, I thought that was going to be a game show, but instead it's like is it about a game show?
No, it's about this like machine that shows up in this small town and it like the machine, if you put your information in it, it prints your like destiny, and so it like throws this small town for a loop because all these different people learn like what their destinies are. And it's a very interesting show. I really enjoyed it.
That sounds great and truly I can't believe it exists. That's so weird.
Yeah, yeah, that's what I'm telling you. There's a lot of great Apple TV shows that were slept on, uh like the purpose.
They just like don't want people to.
I don't know, but I think people just don't have Apple TV.
Yeah, I think a people don't have Apple TE I'm very intrigued by this trailer, just because I feel like every trailer for an Apple TV show looks the same now, Like, am.
I like I have like a house style?
Yeah, which I'm sure is part of Apple's branding, But I just realized how like formulaic these trailers are looking coming out of Apple TV.
It's a lot of people on nice cotches facetiming other people.
Well, it's like the camera angles and the coloring. Because I was watching this one on mute when as we were talking, and I'm like, it reminded me of the midnight Shyamalan show that was on Apple TV too, even though it's like a wildly different genre.
Yeah, I watched that show too, which one I don't remember what it was.
Called, but it was like a baby that was like, yeah, oh servant, that was weird.
Didn't come out this year, right, that's no, no, no, okay, but like that might as well have come out this year if The Last of Us.
Came out again. I don't believe that it did, but like, if you know, I.
Feel like the only thing I finished this year was Netflix's House of Usher.
I okay, has anyone the House of Usher? Yeah?
Yeah, the Fall that the prequel, just the House.
Of Usher, Yes, the Fall of the House of Usher. The Mike Flanagan, I don't know, thriller, horror thriller. He has done it like the past few years, He's had like four I think with Netflix now. But I felt like it was kind of mid in comparison to his other I love a Mike Flannagan project, but I felt like the comparison he did the Haunting of Hill House, the Haunting of Black manor uh, he did Midnight Mass. I think he did this other one that's like, I
don't know. It was more of like a kid's thriller or not kids team.
Midnight Club, Yes, Midnight Club. I was like night It all has to be named after like a house of some sort or a building.
But I feel like Haunting a Hill House will always be the best. Like I feel like it was top tier. It was like story element, script acting. It was like the best of the best of all of the pieces. I felt like it was the most intense in terms of like connection, and it felt very like vibrant and sad. But the rest of them have been kind of like up and down campy. They're all fun and enjoy and if you love like a halloweeny, spooky thriller type of thing.
All a fun watch, but I felt like this one kind of fell flat if you're thinking of like Hunting of Hell House and Midnight Mass to Me were his top two but the only project I didn't I don't even think I finished Beef. I didn't finish Bear. I didn't finish Daisy Jones in the sixth Even though I enjoyed all those things, I got overwhelmed.
Yeah, it was the only.
TV scripted TV.
I watched a lot of unscripted television this year. American Horses Story. I watched Concardashian's American horror story.
That was Kardashians fun.
I think she kind of ate not gonna lie, but don't like that she was a scab for it. So how to reevaluate myself after realizing that when I was watching it?
Wow, I know, I.
Didn't know until I was like halfway through the season. So then I stopped watching.
All right, let's do one more break and we'll come back and give our final thoughts on the year and streaming.
We'll be right back.
And we're back, and Anna, do you have like a top three shows of the year that you want to shout out that you feel like people for sure, sounds like you don't.
Please, it's literally me.
Have you met me?
Yeah, no question, have you met me? M Okay, So then how dare you ever a question that I would have a top three shows I would recommend top shows of the year. I would say one Jury Duty, Yeah, incredible television, A joy, a joy. I also I would love to give some love to Righteous Gemstones. They're not doing it like they do it on Righteous Gemstones. Let me tell you who's not doing it like they do anyone?
Like no one.
No one's doing it like Danny McBride is doing it.
Facts.
And I don't just say that because I like work with Adam Devine all the time, because I would say, like he's fine in the show, like it's all about like Judy, Judy Gemstone. Let's give some love to our girl Edie Patterson show.
I really love character and I've tuned into it. Oh you would love the South and Loves Comedy.
Yeah, it's a great show. And then I you know, of course I have to give absolute love to ABVIOD Elementary, great television, great television. So those are my top three right now, and then you know, just some quick love to the Curse the Bear, Ahsoka, this fool only Murrs in the Building, Monarch, that monster show. I actually have enjoyed The Bucketeers if you want a sort of a Bridgerton adjacent to style show. Look, there's so much great
television out there. You know, you could be watching if you weren't Jack.
You know, I actually ended up like watching more than I thought. I watched The Bear, which I enjoyed. Jury Duty, Dury Duty, and The Bear probably near the top of my list.
And yeah, let's go with the.
Come back to me for the third one. Anybody else, anyone want to call out a show? Oh in the season three of the other two?
Oh, the other two always incredible.
Yeah. Oh, Succession, that's the first Succession in there. Instead of The Bear.
I would like to give a shout out to the new Scott Pilgrim show.
I don't know if anyone.
Yeah, it's great. It's I've heard from a lot of people that didn't watch it because they thought it was just going to be like a remake.
Of the literal story.
Yeah, but it's so different and it's really interesting. It's
not quite a remake, it's not quite a sequel. It's kind of a reimagining, but there's like a narrative reason behind that, and yeah, it's basically it's also just an interesting thing because it's clearly they went back to Brian Lee O'Malley, who wrote the original comics, and it's you know, it's the product of like when you ask a guy who's older now to go back and work on the story that he wrote when he was, you know, in his twenties or however old he was, it's you're not
going to have the same perspective on that. And I think it was actually a really interesting show as a result.
I'm definitely gonna wisened. Yeah, because I love.
The original Scott Pilgrim.
Yeah, yeah, no, it's you should definitely check it out. It's great. And yeah, like on I said, the Curse is is very good. I actually saw the beginning of it in the in a theater and seeing it with an audience just like like literally cringing in their seats, going oh like audibly reacting. So the discomfort was was pretty special.
I can imagine I know the scene where you could feel how uncomfortable everyone was in that episode. So I'm the opposite of Jack. I realized that I watched almost no television this year. All of my picks were like, Better Call Saul, which came out last year, and then the Rehearsal, which also came out last year. So I'll just give a shout out to the Curse also because oh and Fargo. Fargo is back this year, and I didn't really like last season. But it's really coming back pretty hard.
Is it. I am so in and out with Fargo because I'm like, what are we doing here? Are you good this season? Or are you not good this season? Up your mind?
It?
It feels like it's going back to its roots, and especially it like the first shot is the definition of what Minnesota nice is, and so they're really leaning in hard with the extreme violence mixed with the awe heck of it all, you know. So yeah, so I'm I'm really enjoying it so far. I'm a little behind, and not to spoil, but there is like an R rated version of Home Alone just in the middle of the series. So it's pretty fantastic.
Oh is that what that like clip of like McCaulay culkin that goes viral is about?
No, I don't know, it's it's just like somebody.
Yeah, it is like a bunch of like trap, but they show what the real world effects would have been and it's pretty it's pretty special.
I love it.
Yeah.
Every once in a while, like a some like guy in the middle of nowhere will home alone his house, but with like real weapons, and it's frequently a disaster.
Oh, poker Face came out this year too. Once you mentioned poke, Did poker Face come out this year?
Yeah?
Yeah, yeah, a long year.
Poker Face was a lot of fun.
One of my favorite first episodes of a show, Like the first couple episodes of the show are really great, great performance, great. We talked about how Colombo was getting a lot of flowers from people this year, and this show felt specifically like indebted to Colombo in a lot of ways.
But yeah, poker Face is awesome.
Did people watch Colombo this year that that was the thing that happened, right, I'm not making that up.
Yeah, I didn't know anyone else did.
Yeah.
I heard a lot of people talking, like there was a thing where someone was talking about how they're the family tree of like the best TV writing that ever happened, Like you can trace it all back to Colombo, like it all like all the people who made the greatest prestige TV of all time were people who.
Either worked on Colombo or worked for people who worked on.
Colombo because they all quit because Peter Fauk was a maniac and went to different shows.
I think he was.
I think he was very controlling of the character. And yeah, yeah, actually that was my favorite TV of the year was by far watching DVDs of Colombo with my son when we all had COVID. I was like, and he was wasn't able to sleep, so it's like, sure, you can watch this with us. So we all watched Colombo and uh yeah, because I was like, I guess it's appropriate for kids. You know, there's no blood or swearing, and yeah, great.
That's gonna be the number one show of twenty twenty four. Colombo. It's gonna NEI people are gonna be.
Like, have you guys seen this fucking thing? Colombo? All right? On any final word before we.
Yeah, you know, I really enjoyed television and I'm excited to see what's next year because with the strikes, anything can happen.
Yeah hell yeah, all right, Well, thank you guys so much for joining us.
That is going to do it for this episode.
We've got another year ender coming tomorrow, and then back the following day with an all new episode of The Daily Zeye Guys, so we'll talk to you all then, and thanks for listening.
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