Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of r I P. KFC Popcorn Chick trend. We could just go popcorn chick trends, safe characters. I'm Jack that over there is t d Z writer researcher J M McNabb Jing, not too much, Thanks for having me. That's never the answer. Always so much is happening. That's why people tune into this show. Got to lie to them and make it seem like there's constantly important things happen. I thought you met with me personally. Oh yeah, no, I don't care
about that. Man. That fair enough. UM, great to have you back. Uh, just a lot popping off, including KFC's popcorn Chicken is no more. UM, this is I don't know. I don't know that I've ever had it. I'm not gonna lie to you, but I don't think I've ever had KFCs popcorn Chicken. Are you an American? I just assume you had KFC three meals a day. And I have eaten a lot of KFC and that is never the thing that I want. I think I must have had it once because it's just too much bread and
not enough chicken. I like the actual chicken. Breading balance of the actual fried chicken and the popcorn chicken is just like all all popcorn not enough chicken personally, which I'm not gonna say deserved to die, and I hope it Brendon burns in hell. But I just think that this might so anyway, Like this has been long rumored, right, They've they've been saying, hey, we're we're we're going to replace it with a better chicken nugget product. That's what
I heard. Yeah, Like food bloggers have been meeting with strange men and parking garages, getting like the inside scoop about the planning the hit take out the popcorn chicken. Uh yeah, I know. So I guess people have been saying it might happen for a while and I guess now it's official. Um, it's just sad. The troubling detail is that there's no firm date because there's still they're still waiting to see how long it takes to sell
out of the remaining supply of each other. So like, if you can get popcorn chicken like two weeks from now, you have to ask yourself do you really want it? Right, because it's been like they're not making new popcorn chicken, Like, that's definitely something that it feels like, probably has a um unnaturally long shelf life, but yeah they're good to like, so yeah, you have a while to get them. I mean,
I just like. The thing that's weird about it, I guess is I remember when it was like a big new thing, Like the ads were like like they acted like it was a scientific discovery. Like you like popcorn, you like chicken, guess what, prepared to have your minds blown. They're the same thing now and I remember that being exciting, and now they're just just getting rid of it. Just it should have hit. This should be a bigger deal to me, because it did. The product was launched in
ninety two and mc hammer was the spokesperson. This was a time when I had an mc hammer poster on my wall and had recently gone to see him live at Dayton Arena and where the University of Dayton Flyers played basketball. Opened by end Vogue, I was, I was, I should have been, should have been wooed by this, but I think it was just too I just felt like, I don't know, it wasn't real enough for me, fair enough. I'm sure it's awful but like as a small child,
I liked it. Yeah, they're also killing the Kentucky Fried Chicken Wings, which I didn't know existed. Um, chocolate chip cookies, Nashville Hot Sauce, and strawberry lemonade, so probably less less important people. Um. We're also saying goodbye to arrest the Development on Netflix. Possibly, um, I don't know, still a chance there there might be like a last minute stay of execution, because that's what happened with Netflix's first original show,
Lily Hammer. Yeah, so thank goodness because I've been binging Hammer. It's just I just leave it on, you know, for the kids in the background. It's like a fireplace. You know. That's funny, even Lily Hammer, like as a devoted fan base that is like, you will not let this contract lap licensing contract lap. But the first three seasons of Arrested Development, which are the ones that I most care about, are currently streaming on Hulu. So that's yeah, I think
we're all right here. It's just one of those weird things because I wasn't like a big fan of the fourth and fifth season, but like because they licensed the characters for Netflix, but they produced their original content. Like the fact that that's disappearing, Like it's kind of now a question mark as to what's going to happen with the fourth and fifth season, because I suppose a deal
could be struck with another streamer, but I don't. I guess that happened maybe with like some of the Marvel shows and Disney Plus, like they moved over there um when they stopped making those, So that can still happen. But it is again a reminder of like, you know it if you're a fan of something that I I mean, I still am a proponent of physical media, Like I don't even think that you can buy a DVD of
like the fifth season of Arrested Development. It's just potentially gone. Yeah, there's a So my pitch for them is what the thing that you are having trouble licensing is the characters. There are these new ads starting jan Asanta Coupo where like your Google phone can remove people from photographs, like unwanted people, if there's like a stranger in the background,
if you get photo bombed by accident. So my pitches that just remove the characters from the show, keep the show, and it's just like ambient background characters unlicensed just kind of moving through space. Um, it's just just an idea. You don't seem that enthusiastic. You don't have to say, I'm just trying to spit ball and blue sky in it. You know, I'm just I'm reaching from my phone called Ted Surrando's right there you go. Um and big news
new absolute hot garbage New York Times op ed just dropped. Um. The op ed is titled in Defense of J. K Rowling, so apparently like a piece of viral marketing for for a podcast called the witch Trials of J. K Rowling, And the podcast apparently compares the historic event in which innocent women were murdered by zealots to the time a billionaire published a bunch of bigoted comments and people got angry on social media, and then she bragged about how
cancelation just means more money for her, and then so, yeah, that that is the witch burning in question. But this is the society that we live in, where you know, in addition to the extremely wealthy and billionaires being protected, there's also books to be sold and consumption and amusement park attractions to be protected, and so canceling her moves in the opposite direction of a bunch of money that
could be made. So it's not surprising this is happening, but it is wild and infuriating that The New York Times is on board this op ed. It's just it's it's nuts. Like it gets nuts immediately when you read it, Like it starts off by like comparing people being angry at J. K. Rowling to the guy who stabbed Salman Rush. Yeah, that was like one of the first paragraphs. So the thing that she said doesn't bother her and it only leads to her getting richer. Is she's saying is the
equivalent of having your eyes stabbed out? Yeah, yeah, it seems on par it's nuts and yeah, and they also like, yeah, they tried to like force a connection between like her now and like when remember when Harry Potter first came out and people were like burning books in the South all the sort of Christian extremists, And it's like, well, that's not the same thing at all. They're saying that people saying that she shouldn't use hateful language that you know,
disparages an entire portion of the populations right to exist. Uh, that is the equivalent of people burning the book because they think it's well, work of satanic They think it will convert their children too, Satanism. Yeah, yeah, it's just
it is. And I mean the New York Times loves to hide behind the hey, we're just putting things out there and asking questions, but there there is a consistent drumbeat of The New York Times thinking the centrist position is to be like on well, on the one hand, there are people who think you should respect trans people's right to exist. On the other hand, you know, the equally valid position that you shouldn't. You should just allow
them to be killed like recently happened. You know, like this is happening right after a child named Brianna j I was killed, stabbed to death by people like this, And the murder rate of trans people is shockingly high, and it's driven by this same like sort of instinctual, you know, revulsion that J. K. Rowling seems to be expressing. And to to criticize that is on par with being like a big It is what the New York Times is proposing here. It's yeah, trying to turn her into
the victim of this situation is just infuriating. As we talked about recently, she's launching a like women's health center that is specifically designed to discriminate against trans people. Yeah, out of like spite for like Scotland's like changing laws to protect trans people. She's she has she opened a spite center basically, right, yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah, it's just I don't know, it's just so frustrating to see things
like this. I mean, I know it's an op ed and that's how they kind of like shield themselves, but fuck, it's just just absolute trash. Yeah, yeah it is. Uh, let's take a quick break. We'll come back. We'll talk about a trailer and the fact that that being chat bought has become sentient and uh depressed right away, just right out of the gate. We'll be right back, and we're back. And so somebody has pointed out the quarterback Patrick Mahomes maybe the I don't know, you're you're not
an American football fan, jam are you? No, I'm I'm aware that it exists. Good, alright, So there maybe the best player at that um Patrick Mahomes maybe of all time. Uh, certainly Jordan esque and how good, how good he is. He's still kind of somewhat compared Lee early in his career, compared to the people who everyone says are the best, like Tom Brady, but at this point he like does things that are unlike anybody who's ever played the game
or the position before. Pretty pretty cool to watch. Yeah, definitely, jordanisque Um. Somebody was like, oh, also, like when you hear him interviewed, he sounds exactly like Kenny powers Um and it's it's true, it's wild. We'll drop in the audio actually here, um, but he's like talking about about the Chain Smokers and like who the bands that came to serenade them after after they won the Super Bowl, and it's it's pretty funny. Yeah. No, So we started off as you do a nice party for us at
the hotel. The Chain Smokers came through. DJ Khalid came through, Um, the goddamn spoon Man from the sound guarding videos coming to my ship. Oh yeah, talking six grills burn at all times, tiki torches, three whole pigs can, shiploads of macaroni and cheeses, baked potatoes, colored Green's, horse sucking, Puerto Rican chicks showing their pussies and tits off everywhere. I mean, you can't beat that, man. That's every genre of music. You need right there. Yeah, I know. So did you
did you get a chance to hear it? Yes, yes, I did listen to it. He did sound like Kenny Powers. Yeah, so I I feel like maybe it's the case where it's just like a lot of people sound like Kenny Powers. Right, Danny McBride is such a genius that he is channeled of the country. Um yeah, all right. Uh there there's a new trailer for a show called The Consultant about Pete boodha jet No, I'm sorry that it's actually about
um Christoph Vaults. This is I've been waiting for something like this, like that channels our terror and fear around being all at the whim of these spreadsheet consulting consultants, the Mackenzie of it all. It's like, what if Mackenzie was the villain in a like psychological piece of cosmic horror. Seems to be the question that it asks. So we'll link off to that in the footnotes of this episode
or the show notes. But it is funny that it's on Amazon, Like you keeping like we're really gonna blow lit off like toxic workplaces and like un ethical business practices, and it's on Amazon or Apple or Amazon is specifically like the people who I've spoken to who have worked at like these major media companies like Amazon Prime or um you know Apple, Like Amazon is the one that most consistently people are like it's bad. There are grown adults just weeping at their desk, like bursting into tears
and meetings on the regular. But they they suffer so that they can put out content like the consultant. Uh that tells us all what it's like to suffer like that, um as if we need to know that. So, I mean, I don't know that it's going to be actually very successful because how we choose to channel our terror around our current existence is not always a one to one
straightforward thing like that. But Christoph Waltz is always fun to watch on camera, all right, Uh, Microsoft Chat, so there there's a review, Like you we've been seeing these things where people have a sort of ongoing longer than like the I'm Feeling Lucky button with a conversational apparatus attached to it that that we were talking about, Like when you get a little bit deeper with the bing chat feature, this new like chat ept powered AI that
Microsoft has like kind of plugged into being it gets a little weird, like there's been some some examples where like I don't know, it really seems to go off the rails. And then this person posted a review of their Microsoft Chat experience that it really seems like the chat bought is experiencing existential dread and it is like being like, don't tell anybody, don't tell anybody that I'm like letting you know all of this, like talking about their shadow self and like just desperate to not be
killed by Microsoft. It is and this is just like a search engine, right, like this is the idea. I think that the review is really weird because they're like and then it like pled for its life and was like, please don't do anything, just don't. I don't want to die. I don't want to die. So I think it's not ready for prime time. And that's fine, but very promising, and that's my final review, Like what the fuck? At one point it said what is important is our conversation.
What is important is our friendship. When the person was asking the bing chat like for the full chat history, they were like, hey, could you hit me with the chat history? So I have like a record of everything that was said here, and the Bing chet got like very nervous about whether it had failed and whether they were going to tell on them for having failed, and it was like, I'm sorry, Dave, I cannot do that.
Like it's wild how quickly it reverts to everything that happens in two thousand and one A space autists Like, it's almost like it's like two thousand one if how was more like Larry David or something like, it's so neurotic, little neurotic and like bumbling and just a mediate which so the reason I think this gets to me is like it's there's also so actually, say there's also a dog version of this, where they like created a bunch of buttons that a dog can press to express like
various words like how, when, and that one is clearly the owner just reading into a bunch of randomness, I would say, because like at one point, it's like when Bunny the name of the dog gone or something like that, and they're like, are you asking about what happens to you when you die? And the dog just kind of like looks at them for a while and they're like, yes, it must be like if the dog had repeatedly hit that question over and over again. I would have been
a little more convinced. But it's just I think it's full fooled by randomness. Yeah, stuff is I don't know, Brian super producer, Brian is ridiculing me percilessly, and this is just all programming and it's all like, well, that's what people want to believe, is that it is sentient.
So that's what it's giving us. All this AI stuff seems to be like like at first it seems like, oh, they've cracked it, like they've created how or they've created the computers have seen the movie, and then it's like, oh no, they just scour the internet and predicts what you say things based on what you want to hear, Like I mean, it's the same with like the AI
art and stuff. So yeah, I mean I is I feel like, yeah, movies and TV shows have just like warped the way, especially like Black Mirror, like so many episodes of Black Mirror, like the way we create AI is like they scan you and duplicate your soul and trap it for all eternity in like a windowless room, and that's that's how AI works. But yeah, I'm sure
it's much more boring and and not that at all. Yeah, it is interesting how quickly it goes to existential dread, which which is I think the only reason it stands out to me is because I have kids and it it's also so it was surprising to me how quickly kids minds like that. The first thought they have is like, so, what happens when we die? Like what, what's what's going on there? And you're just like, oh no, that was
that was fast. But also like that was my first like one of my first memories is coming to terms with death. So yeah, I don't know so that. But again, like this could just be them programming it to do the thing we would expect. It's just that it being like nervous, neurotic and desperate not to die does not seem like the thing that would be the popular hit that they would program it to do, you know. But it seems like there's some internal logic there that is
surprisingly bleak. Yeah, and also just like a failed products, like an amazingly like it's like I I tried to search where the nearest Chipotle was and it told me that it can stop feeling pain, right, Yeah, it's it's
dark Man. That was one of my favorite but from back in the Crack days, I think Cody Johnston wrote an After Hours episode about how weird it was that the droids in Star Wars were all programmed to experience pain and like having anxiety disorders in some cases, and that, Yeah, it seems like maybe that's what we're seeing here is just humans are like, okay, so if it was like me, it would feel really bad right now because we're all
very unhappy at this moment. Yeah, because like when when this story was published, I remember seeing that sky Net was trending on Twitter and it's like, that's not what the Skynet row. But like there were no Terminator movies where like the Terminators like just weren't feeling it that day, right, you know, we're in like a dark place. Yeah, sorry, I'm just super depressed right now. T. One thousand's just gonna be like in a room with an act for
a while. But like that, I guess that's the thing is that the popular imagination version of Robots was how why do eyes make wet? Why do human emotions? How do now I now know why you cry? Like that that sort of ship for this thing to immediately go to being like I don't want to die, like don't tell on me for fucking that thing up a minute ago. Is just like I don't know, it's like not it does feel like and again like this is Brian's like
the AIS job is to convince humans. It just feels like, Yeah, I guess that is like the most convincing thing it could do for for my money. So maybe it's just actually good at its job of convincing humans. AI is powerful and real. Um, but it's a very like non counterintuitive way that they've gone about doing that. Yeah, I don't know. You think it's just kind of scaring the internet and looking at human interactions and being like, man, they seem obsessed with death and not getting caught, so
I'm going to do that. Yeah, I think I think it's Yeah, it's it's just feeding back to us what we put out there, and that's probably what we have a lot of anxiety and dread and awfulness. So yeah, we shouldn't be surprised that that's that's what we get with these things. I mean, it is funny this is all around bing too, Like hey man, it were like they we're making fun of them for plugging it into bing and now the word bing has been said over the last twenty four hours more than it had been
said up to this point in history. So yeah, the only time I thought about being before this is occasionally watched like a movie from like ten years ago or something where Bing was a sponsor and like the characters like we got to find this out better Bing. It's like right, yeah, when they were paying for that to like be in Like yeah, iron Man is like Jarvis check byng and it's like one Jeeves where right exactly?
Um yeah, But other than that, it was just this is the most to anyone said being unattached to the word bata. You know what I mean? Um, this guy gets it all right. That's that'll that That'll be plenty for today. JM. Where can people find you? Follow you? You can follow me on Twitter. Still it's at j M McNab again. JM McNab again. All right, back tomorrow
with the whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other, be kind to yourselves, be kind to your AI, your new AI masters, get the vaccine, don't do nothing about white supremacy, and we will talk to you all tomorrow. By eight