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MJGMB #107: State of the Clippers with Law Murray

Apr 03, 202439 minSeason 3Ep. 24
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The guys were joined by The Athletic's NBA writer Law Murray for today's episode. The trio discussed the state of the Clippers, the streaking Mavs, playoff dark horses and more!

1. Tyronn Lue called the Clippers ‘soft’ just in time for them to rediscover toughness

 

 

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Speaker 1

We're back.

Speaker 2

It's episode one oh seven, and Lebron and Luca continue to do amazing things, things that have some people saying.

Speaker 3

No, no, no.

Speaker 2

Uh and some people saying yes, yes, define a physit, define the laws of science, geometry even and Booker has placed himself in quite rarefied air, and we're going to get into the State of the Clippers and Planny Moore with NBA writer Law Murray on today's episode.

Speaker 1

I'm Miles Gray and I'm Jack O'Brien, and this is Miles.

Speaker 4

And Jack story Got It and Luka Dotic.

Speaker 3

Hits ta Okay, there you go.

Speaker 5

Indeed, driving Spinny d.

Speaker 1

From Bron's Got It with five is gonna try another three, mister Kron James.

Speaker 2

To be honest, I can't grab net just so you know, fIF you can't.

Speaker 3

Yeah, yeah, I tried the other day.

Speaker 5

I almost tore my hamstring and calf at the same time.

Speaker 3

I don't know how on my left leg that's my You.

Speaker 1

Grabbed it so hard.

Speaker 5

Yeah, let's say that because I almost I almost.

Speaker 2

I almost grabbed it so hard I blew out my hamstring and calf.

Speaker 3

No, because I'm out of shape.

Speaker 1

Saturday slapped backboard, so hard On exactly.

Speaker 2

Right, trying to show up for my nephew, and he was not oppressed. But anyway, we got law Murray here for the athletic law. You are a fan of the.

Speaker 5

Clippers and you cover the Clippers, I'm gonna get me in trouble.

Speaker 6

I'm not a fan of anybody, Okay, I'm I do cover the Clippers.

Speaker 5

You cover the Clippers. Obviously have journalistic integrity.

Speaker 6

I literally rewrote in my bio that I am not I am not.

Speaker 4

Yeah, I'm not carrying water for nobody, just saying.

Speaker 2

Of course in private it you know, does it does it warm your heart to see the white, red, and blue?

Speaker 5

We're talking about the American flag, not the Clippers.

Speaker 4

There's a lot of red, white and blue teams in the league though.

Speaker 6

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Yeah, so you know, we.

Speaker 2

Just we'll keep it there and you just that colorway, Yeah, you just like the colors.

Speaker 4

I'm a mercenary. I'm not really known for my loyalty, okay. Yeah.

Speaker 6

I feel like there's a lot of writers, reporters, uh, fan media if.

Speaker 4

You will, that are very.

Speaker 6

Open about being moved by one particular team, whether they grew up with them or because they're on.

Speaker 4

Their payroll, and I'm not, so I try to let people know that straight up.

Speaker 3

No, that's that's good.

Speaker 6

I am around them an inordinate amount of time, and that's been the case for most of the past ten years.

Speaker 2

So what did you grow up who did you grow up being a fan of before became a professional journalist?

Speaker 6

You got you gotta remember, I'm from Philly back when Sean Bradley and Clarence Weatherspoon were an.

Speaker 1

NBA J white, Red and blue.

Speaker 3

Yeah, team was, and.

Speaker 6

That team was garbage. So local local ties didn't do for me. And and I know, Miles, you'll appreciate this. I mean, eventually my favorite team became whoever was playing the Lakers, So.

Speaker 3

Wow, there you go.

Speaker 2

Yeah, so I love that. I love that for I love that for everybody, you know.

Speaker 6

Even for me though, It's like I just I was fans of players and the team lies on.

Speaker 4

I was my first favorite player, you know, and.

Speaker 6

Glass and and and then you know, I just wanted to be like appreciative of players and certain teams. So I fall out of love with teams, man, And that was really the case for me, even even early. So I'm appreciative when Alan Irison was good or me the Sixers good as you say, a, I was.

Speaker 4

Good at at the box, but like you know that.

Speaker 6

That associated me with Philly more than any other time. But man, when they traded him, Yeah.

Speaker 2

Like all right, I'm off, y'all single tear drop pretty much. Yeah, It's easier to be a fan of players too than teams. I mean, like, granted, people understand I'm from LA and I have an illness called being a Laker fan, but also I do love I mean like I'm also I love Kevin Durant too, and then.

Speaker 5

I try not to get too bogged down.

Speaker 2

But let's be real, you know, I've I'm I'm definitely can be in my bag when the Clippers are doing well because I'm insecure.

Speaker 5

And you know what, how many people could say that out loud? Right, And that's not in a therapy session, you know.

Speaker 4

Hey, you remember that Kevin Durant commercial.

Speaker 6

I think it was when he was a rookie where I think from A or whatever up until he was with the Sonics, he's like taking taking the jerseys off, that's yeah, I mean, yeah, the.

Speaker 2

Texas one right before and then he comes out on the Sonics one.

Speaker 3

Yes, I remember that on.

Speaker 6

One of the best commercials ever made. Bill, don't think we do commercials like we used to. No, I'm not even kidding.

Speaker 1

Because nobody watches them because nobody TV.

Speaker 3

No thrill.

Speaker 4

People will be cutting, core, cutting or whatever.

Speaker 6

You know, you can throw your commercial on some thirty second YouTube spot in between ski.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 2

Remember when, like, you know, Nike commercials, especially like Nike basketball commercials were like appointment viewing. They're like, yo, they're doing that basketball commercial where they're making beats and stuff by squeaking their sneakers and dribbling the ball.

Speaker 6

Commercial doing that commercial game or the fun Police.

Speaker 2

The Fun Police was a great That was a was like a perfect Nike basketball commercial.

Speaker 5

I have to say The Fun Police was fantastic.

Speaker 1

We're going to talk about a commercial later because I think Luca modeled his game after a commercial. Well, we'll talk about commercial in a moment.

Speaker 5

Yeah, iconic commercial nonetheless. But since law you're here, we've got you here.

Speaker 2

We got to talk about the state of the Clippers forty seven and twenty seven heading into tonight's matchup against the Sacramento Kings.

Speaker 5

You know, forty three and twenty four with Harden, been you up your day?

Speaker 3

You're up, you're down, But overall.

Speaker 5

I think, you know, it looks like things are coming together. Well, what do you think?

Speaker 6

You know?

Speaker 5

I just want to posit this right.

Speaker 2

December and January twenty three and five, February and March sixteen and twelve. Now, some people like me rub their hands and they go, yes, it's coming apart. But then realistically, there were some injuries and things like that that would if you're being a little bit more objective, that would explain those kinds of things. What should we expect from the Clippers when we head into like when we get to mid March or mid April, Sorry, what do we expect?

Speaker 6

I can't wait to see what the postseason field looks like, both going into the playing tournament and obviously coming out of it, especially like this Clippers team is to me, matchup dependent.

Speaker 4

You know, if they get a team that they can score.

Speaker 6

On, they're scary that their confidence might have been shaken a bit. But I honestly just think that they've just had so many games. Guys have been pushing it all the top. You know, they were mocks at the end of last year because they were all said to want to compete more. You know, try harder, whatever you want

to call it, but no, that's what happened. That's how you get twenty six and five over the course of like you said, the beginning of December through the Grammy trip, because they won the first three years of February, which is the last games of that road trip, the season one trip. So that happens because you are, you know, instead of doing what you did the previous year years, you know, low advantage guys with valid reasons. Then you know, one of those guys literally towards damn Aco. You know,

there's a reason he wasn't playing back bets. You know, people lose jacket app the other has soft issue injuries every damn year. Like, no, they tried harder, and they might have peaked a little too soon, but at the same time, they secured or they're at the point where they just have to play five hundred basketball, please secure a top succeed.

Speaker 4

That's where we're at now.

Speaker 6

So the very thing that made people go, oh, yeah, that team can be a problem is the very thing that has them running on themes a little bit at this time of the year. It's probably why Kawhi Leonard is not going to play Tuesday night at Sacramento. But if they get a matchup where they feel like they can score, they're going to be a problem. If they get a matchup like the New Orleans Pelicans, that's they're going to have to shift.

Speaker 4

Their narrative a little bit too.

Speaker 6

Oh, we're experiencing we have another level because that Pelicans team, I feel like, can take away the things that make the Clippers comfortable on that offensive end of the floor.

Speaker 4

And then the Pelicans are big, like their.

Speaker 6

Size is going to be a real challenge or a Clippers team that I think has size at every position except for power forward.

Speaker 4

It just so happens that their power forward is their best player, Kawhi Leonard.

Speaker 6

So the sacrifice that Kawhi has made this year is he's had instead of having some body like Marcus Morris or Nicholas Batum getting those bigger being in the small line of holding things down. Now you're asking, you know, the guys who are playing two three for most of the last four years, to be the three fours every again, that's takes a bit of a physical compromise. So I think the Clippers do have another level. They have guys who've been there in the playoffs. They have a head coach,

you've been there in the playoffs. It shows that he's got stuff that.

Speaker 2

Even the player you know, we had the Finals as a player, you know, storied, right, you know what I mean.

Speaker 6

But they're not going to be rattled or intimidated by the moment. We've seen them be down oh two and may comebacks. So that's the team where it's like, the Clippers should probably be better than the team that you've seen post All Star Break because they know what time of the year it would be and the desperation level for that team and that franchise will be a lot higher than a lot of these other teams as But for sure.

Speaker 1

The West, there's no there's no safe first round series in the West. But there's not a single matchup. Like assuming we get Lakers and Sons out of the play in, then we've got Pelicans, Dallas, Clippers, Mini Denver. Okay, See, like any of those teams could beat the other team in a seven game series. I feel like like just depending on how hot.

Speaker 6

They are, right, and someone's going to miss the playoffs, you know, yeah, yeah, either the Rockets or Warriors obviously, you know, two more teams in the playing tournament, Like there are going to be good teams that are playing reasonably good basketball right now for several weeks that will not even make it to the playing tournament, and then you got two more that won't make it to the postseason field overall, Like there's no team that you're going

if you're a top four seed, and it's like that's.

Speaker 4

We want game one at home, Like okay.

Speaker 6

All season you are for your home court advantage just to lose that job.

Speaker 1

Yeah, I feel like the only team that, like Denver is probably the one that everybody has on their list that they're just like no thing, thank you. But other than that, I don't see like I feel like any of those teams would feel good about playing any of the other ones. Other than so you were mentioning for the Clippers, the Pelicans are a kind of counterintuitively bad matchup for them, Like they just don't make Yeah.

Speaker 6

I've just seen too many as weapons over the past several years.

Speaker 1

Yeah, all right, So here's my question, because what we recorded an episode after I think it was like the first game of the playoffs last year, and I was like, is Kawhi Leonards still the best player in the league at like based on how he played, and I think it was like the first two games, maybe got hurt in the second game, but he still looked so dominant. Where would you put him as like he is the blank best player in the league, like top ten.

Speaker 6

Man, that's tough because I mean, I'm guessing we're having this conversation for playoff Kawhi, not you know, the Kawhi that just has to get through the damn season, right, and again, all the credit to him. This man, this is the most games, the most minutes, the most dunks that we see out of Kawhi since he was in his twenties with the San Antonio Spurts. You know, like that is I'm excited to see what what he has for the playoffs.

Speaker 4

I mean, if you say ten, then that sounds.

Speaker 6

Disrespectful, but there's a lot of good players and a lot of.

Speaker 4

Players that have levels, you know, come playoff time. I mean, I'll say ten.

Speaker 6

I don't really do player rankings like that, try to position rankings in September when everybody is sleep, But yeah, I mean at his position, he's top three and.

Speaker 4

Overall, I would I think Tim's a good spot.

Speaker 1

I think I would like put him right now regular season ten. But like I said last year, in the first game of the playoffs, he was I thought, the best player in the league. Like he was unbelievable, like you know, in the playoffs. So maybe we get another Kawhi playoffs and you know he's able to play for the whole time, and then the sky is the limit for the Clippers. I feel like at that point.

Speaker 4

That's all, that's all anyone wants to see.

Speaker 6

You know, who's never finished the playoff series as the Clippers head coach with both of those guys playing in the final game.

Speaker 2

Yeah right, yeah, And then you know, just looking at potential matchups, do you want it with the maps or would you rather not?

Speaker 5

Based on what we're seeing with Dallas right now.

Speaker 6

I mean, look, man, as someone who again I'm gonna beat it regardless, sure, but like gonna get booked. Shout out to the athletic Here's how the Clipper should feel. If you got to play a team like New Orleans, it's going to be a physical nightmare. You might win this series, right, your job is not to win one playoff series for that team. They're trying to win a championship. It's going to be hard either win. Let me tell

you something about Dallas. They are they are They're beating teams the way they're supposed to be beating teams.

Speaker 4

They are already a powerful offense.

Speaker 6

They got more talent at the trade deadline. In a playoff series, you might want to play Dallas. And this is not disrespect to you know, the Dallas Mavericks or the team or the whatever.

Speaker 4

It's just let's just be objective here.

Speaker 6

Dallas is an offensively led team, much like the Clippers are, and so in that kind of matchup, we know Luca what Luca can do. But in the game of basketball, your game is deciding on stops, and if you're the Clippers, it's going to be hard to stop them.

Speaker 4

But you are familiar with them.

Speaker 6

You are super familiar with Luca, You're super familiar with Kyrie.

Speaker 4

Considering who the head coach of the Clippers is right.

Speaker 6

And literally nobody else on that team concerns you on any level. Don't concerns you from a shooting perspective, don't concerns you from an interior offensive perspective. You don't think any of those dudes can really stop any of the guys that you have. So yes, Dallas is covered up in a big way. Luca has been come of age. He didn't play in the playoffs last year. He will have an edge. He legitimately hates the Clippers. I can tell you that, like Luca does not.

Speaker 4

No, he's not.

Speaker 6

He's a guy who's had his season end multiple times against the Clippers, dammit. Like that's the reality. He does not like that team. He don't like dudes on that team because they get under his skin and they're not afraid of him. So you know it's going to be very It would be another plus series that.

Speaker 4

A lot of people want to see.

Speaker 6

I personally do not give a damn, you know, Like, but if your Clippers are, like yeah, if you see Dallas, you're you're you're not as bothered as right as the Pelicans, because again, the Pelicans have won like ten out of the last twelve Dallas. You literally even this year they beat they beat the mass who had three times and the one time they lost they were in the state of their version of the team that doesn't exist anymore.

Speaker 1

All right, let's take a quick break and then we're gonna step back and take a look around the League and we'll be right back, and we're back.

Speaker 4

We're back.

Speaker 1

Let's stay on the Mavericks for a second. Yeah, they snapped Houston's eleven game winning streak. Luca was making scoop shots from three point From the three point line, he scored forty seven points, twelve boards, six times, nine threes, one nineteen foot scoop shot. Wow, that like didn't doesn't even like he's got a skill set. I don't even know how to describe. Like, you know, we talked about shot making, but his is like shot making plus tricks making.

Like he's got touch both around the rim and touch not around the rim, you know, Like that's there's just like there's also a clip from Miles that you were sharing from the was it the warm up to that game?

Speaker 5

Yeah, the warm up the yeah yeah, yeah of that.

Speaker 1

Game where he made the nineteen foot scoop shot where he shot off the JumboTron. Uh and it Rick shatte off the JumboTron and went in and not like, oh my god, I made that, Like he shot it. He goes off the JumboTron and he's already walking away, Yeah, because he knows it's going in. What I truly. It feels like he saw that McDonald's Larry Bird versus Michael Jordan, like horse commercial, right, and.

Speaker 3

He saw it.

Speaker 5

He's like, yeah, okay, off the JumboTron, like that.

Speaker 1

Feels like his game is. It's just it doesn't it doesn't make sense. It's wild he has He is like some of the best shot making we've ever seen. And his teammate is the other person who we always talk about having some of the best shots making with Kyrie Irving. So they're they're gonna be fun to watch, regardless of who they're matched up against.

Speaker 2

It was it was fun just to hear the reactions that different different play calling teams are just their reaction to that scoop shot. This is the first one from the Mavericks side, He's about to hit it and a little bit of excitement.

Speaker 5

Well, Adrica has done this to many teams his years.

Speaker 2

What little John was there, I think doing a color commentary and then this is what it sounds like.

Speaker 3

From the Rockets broadcast when he made that shot. It's just sort of like denial.

Speaker 2

Oh no, no, no, no, no, no, no, you gotta go.

Speaker 1

He's he's unbelievable. Yeah, you haven't seen the clip he does step through and then just does a underhanded layup but from the three point line and yeah, it goes in.

Speaker 5

I think it's just like a literacy with them.

Speaker 2

It's like jazz, right, you know, like some like players can read like the notes, like yeah, I can execute this, but some people like I know the scales so well, like watch mean, just do anything and like work with it.

Speaker 5

And I think that's just like why you see.

Speaker 2

Those kinds of shots too, because he's not he's not even like limiting himself. He's like, yeah, yeah I'm having that. Let me try that one too. Yeah, and yeah.

Speaker 5

He's got he's got the touch. But yeah, he got the touch, I mean exactly. Shout out to the Booge Knights.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I mean again, you know, we were talking about the Western Conference, the Eastern Conference.

Speaker 3

Boston and Milwaukee seems pretty much.

Speaker 2

That's that's fine, It's really about the places underneath them. And then yeah, with the Western Conference, it's interesting to see six seven eight how that battle plays out. You know, we got to talk about book the fifty two points in a win over the Pelicans on Monday, and now with that fifty two points, he has joined Wilt Chamberlain as the only players in NBA history to have three consecutive games with at least fifty points against a single opponent,

which is pretty wild. That just yeah before he was fifty two then I think fifty eight in the one before that. So one hundred and sixty two points in his past three games against the Pelicans, So.

Speaker 1

He's probably looking for that matchup. He's not, he's not scared of them. If I guess, there's no no world where they're meeting in the first round.

Speaker 5

But that's food brov as they say in London, that's what he's saying.

Speaker 1

Yeah, he got the memo of like how many points you're supposed to score if you want. Jalen Brunson did not get the memo. Unfortunately, he put up sixty one and unfortunately anything in the sixties means your team is going to lose this season.

Speaker 3

That's seventy to what you need.

Speaker 1

Went up against the Spurs, wembing Yama had maybe his best game. Aren't Brookie is supposed to like wear down as the season goes along. He put up forty twenty seven assists, three blocks, just all sorts of highlights of like just weird things, you know, like those Wemby highlights that give you chills a little bit, but like kind of make you feel like you have the flu because you're just like, what am I even watching? And yet

one of the stars. The Spurs beat the Knicks and Brunson put up sixty one, and you gotta score seventy. If you're gonna score sixty, you gotta you gotta get to seventy or how you're gonna lose. Those are just the rules of the season. Scoring to short yourself. Yeah, but I do feel like, so the Knicks are in fourth right now, they would be facing Orlando in the first round. I just I feel like whatever team Jalen Bronson's on, whatever round you intuitively think they're going to

go to, just give yourself one extra round. That seems like where it nets out with him, right, for whatever reason he's got that, he's got that plan. The sixers rule is second round or not, but like second round is the absolute maximum they've been allotted, so purgatory. Yeah, yeah, exactly. But yeah, so the Knicks are going to be interesting. I don't know that They're probably not gonna make the Eastern Conference finals, but I could see them get into the second round.

Speaker 3

I would I mean for the city of New York.

Speaker 2

That would be just for the videos that I would see outside of Madison Square Garden. I would like to see that because they they go off even when they just like get into the playoffs recently. So I want to see the fanfare from the fans for sure if that were.

Speaker 1

But the other great performance from this week Lebron tying his season high with forty on thirteen of seventeen. That's not free throws?

Speaker 4

Good?

Speaker 1

Is that a typo seventeen field goals?

Speaker 3

Yeah?

Speaker 1

Oh? But nine from ten from the nine for ten from the free throw line. Oh no, that's no three, the three the three throw line, the three throw Yeah. I don't know he that. That has been the question is like, is he pacing himself? Is he going to suddenly like turn it on towards the end of the season, And that game certainly looked like it.

Speaker 2

Oh man, that that corner three is just a heat checked three. He had it the last one he took. I was like, that's the Lebron James that we need If I'm going to keep this delusion going for another few weeks, Please please Lah, what's well, what's your perspective? What do you what do you think what's going on going on with Bron?

Speaker 4

Is it just a it?

Speaker 3

Is it like?

Speaker 2

Is it just that part of his career where we get these flashes or you think he's doing the thing like now he's being more sort of intentional about where he's when he turns up the dial and turns it back down.

Speaker 4

I Mean, look, if it wasn't for like every national broadcast reminding you how old Lebron is, wouldn't know base off of how he's playing, right, Like, dudes only shot forty three one year of his entire career, and that was his tenth NBA season in Miami, when you know, he was basically on top of the world right about winning second Street Finals MVP.

Speaker 6

Obviously that comes with the championship after the Olympic gold medal that.

Speaker 4

He got with with the twenty twenty twelfth team, So.

Speaker 6

He was you can really say, like, if you wanted to say that was the best version of Lebron, you can say that, right. I mean, he's shooting a career high from three while shooting more threes than he shot that year. That to me is a player who understands that they don't have, you know, as long to play, but at the same time, it's still the goat. You know, like Bron's got more ducks this year than he did

last year. Okay, he's playing with so many offensively skilled dudes, Like this is the team Maggic Johnson probably thought he wanted to put together when he was like, we don't need shooters, we need ball handlers. Well, they got ball handlers.

Speaker 4

Who can shoot. So this is one of the this is it's a hard team to defend right now.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 4

Now, on the other end, their food and you know.

Speaker 3

That's there.

Speaker 4

Yeah, that's going to be a that's going to.

Speaker 6

Be something they got to figure out depending on their playoff matchup. But the benefit there is Lebron also doesn't foul. I think we've noticed that all right, Right, Like those guys him and Ad they can play thirty thirty five.

Speaker 4

Minutes and they won't pick up multiple thousand in the game.

Speaker 6

And they're playing the biggest positions on the on the floor.

Speaker 4

So it's just funny how that goes.

Speaker 6

But yeah, Lebron, he's reached a point where he knows he's a computer, right, you knows he's supposed to be. He knows where the defense is supposed to be, he knows where his teammates supposed to be. He can make threes at this high clip. And then because you have so much attention on all these other guys who can make shots, who can handle and pass the basketball, he's still getting his stuff easy, right, And I mean that I don't think there's a pace to it, like that's

your pace. Your pace is Lebron's not the guy who has to create every damn play. You know, this isn't the twenty eighteen finals. Cats like Lebron can chill pretty much and get his stuff and again, it's gonna be fast and to see who they mass up in the playoffs.

Speaker 4

But you saw what last year they were seven.

Speaker 6

That Memphis Grizzly team didn't have the size, or the experience, or the poise or darkly the coaching, and they wound up taking care of a high seed pretty easily. It can happen again this year.

Speaker 1

Yeah, what if you had to pick like two dark horse teams from the West, because I mean, I don't even know if it's dark horse, right, not one of the top so not one of the top three seeds. That you could see making a run. Who would you pick?

Speaker 4

I mean, I gotta go with the Clippers.

Speaker 6

They're not going to be a top three seed, and they are going to get a lot of we don't believe in them, you know, And I could see them making a run.

Speaker 4

I really could see them making a run.

Speaker 6

The other team that I would have to that I would have to pick, it's tough because I mean, shoot, I probably would go with the Lakers. We saw it

last year. We saw it last year. I really feel like that team in a seven game series is going to be a real problem for somebody, possibly multiple teams, And if they can avoid Denver somehow, they're going to have a path where they can feel like, well, we've beaten these teams multiple times, Like the Nuggets are probably the only team that has given the Lakers.

Speaker 5

A real challenge.

Speaker 6

And so that's weird to say for a team that right now needs to win two games in the playing tournament just to qualify, right right. I would have said the Pelicans if Brandon was healthy right now, but I just I can't do that with Brandon not guaranteed to be ready, Like I think he'll be re evaluated this week, but we all know what that does not mean.

Speaker 4

It does not guarantee that he'll be ready.

Speaker 5

Yeah, the East in.

Speaker 4

The East, man, I wish the Magic had more experience. I really like that team.

Speaker 6

I really like how their defense. First they're huge, Uh they can't shoot and they still be cheating. The East is is like I really don't like talking about the East. The Celtics something.

Speaker 3

It really is.

Speaker 6

It's something to anybody else, Like, you know, everyone's going to give the Heat undue, you know, respect, because of the well that they've been on. Will the Heat make the playoffs? Are they making it out the playing tournament? Like we gotta see. I mean, the Sixers are going to get Joel back, And I actually am excited if Joel is truly healthy because he's coming back to a better team than he left. Like he didn't play with Buddy gild he played with Marcus Wurtz.

Speaker 4

Okay, there's a big difference there.

Speaker 6

He's going to be, you know, like Tyreee is going to get a lot of relief. They have they have wings, they have size. That killy you Bray was you know, finding his way after that weird accent in in Center City Philadelphia. Now, like guys have been playing. Uh, and Joelle's coming back to that team. I think that could be a team that can make a run. So and

it's a different head coach. So but right now, the East just doesn't They don't do it for me as far as dark horses like I just yeah, it feels pretty set.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Sure, So two teams with the red, white and blue color way trutier origins the Lakers, you know, so the true American, true American appreciate that. Appreciate Yeah, I mean Mbat's coming back. I didn't even want to mention it because it's uh, you know, I don't want to jinx it.

We don't know all the details, but yeah, it'll be it'll be very interesting like that first came back just to see because we have where his body is so big that it often takes him some time to like get used to moving it get around basketball court.

Speaker 4

So he's got a good two weeks to figure that out.

Speaker 1

Yeah, exactly, sure, so that shouldn't be a problem. Uh, Sixers going going to the finals. That's my prediction there. It is here first.

Speaker 5

A Lakers Sixers.

Speaker 2

All right, let's take a quick break and we'll be back and We'll put Law in.

Speaker 5

The hot seat for the hottest questions right after this.

Speaker 3

And we're back long. Wow.

Speaker 2

Always good to have you, man, Always great to have you. But it is time to put you in the hot seat. It's the fourth quarter. It's the rapid fire round of questioning. This is the fastest questions and answer segment in all podcasts sports history.

Speaker 5

We're gonna ask you uestion he just chest pass answer right back. Don't think too hard.

Speaker 2

And if you take too long, we will be very rude and telling you to keep it moving, sir.

Speaker 3

So please don't take it personally.

Speaker 5

It's just about It's just it's the game. Don't hate the player, hate the game, don't hate the host, hate the segment.

Speaker 3

Okay, are you ready to Yeah?

Speaker 6

I'm not as ready as James Harden with a catch and shoot three wow.

Speaker 3

Wow.

Speaker 1

And he's doing it this year, right, he's actually doing catching.

Speaker 4

Shoot sometimes sometimes I've.

Speaker 1

Not seen it in the playoffs.

Speaker 3

Yeah, the TVD TVD.

Speaker 5

Shall I go first?

Speaker 1

Or shall you?

Speaker 3

Miles?

Speaker 1

Why don't you go first?

Speaker 5

I shall go first?

Speaker 3

Love Murray?

Speaker 1

What wait, Brian does Brian know.

Speaker 4

Bryan? Start the clock?

Speaker 5

All right, La, here's the first question. Man, so you got me off my game.

Speaker 2

It's because he was talking as Spice, as a as a Clipper journalist, you know what I mean, completely throwing me off.

Speaker 5

I'm fragile, man, I'm a snowflake.

Speaker 3

But here we go.

Speaker 4

You got to stay in the fight. Man.

Speaker 5

Thank you, thank you. I appreciate that you had me believing again.

Speaker 3

Man, thank you.

Speaker 5

Really, you know, you lift me up.

Speaker 2

When I would look back on the sand, there was only one set of footprints because you were carrying me.

Speaker 1

And we just cut out a five minute rendition of you you raise me up by Josh Grobin that Miles just performed.

Speaker 3

You're streaming down my faith.

Speaker 1

All right.

Speaker 2

First question, more likely to happen and look, we'll let you expand a little bit.

Speaker 3

And why Okay, more likely.

Speaker 2

To happen to why Clippers finals run or Bucks finals run?

Speaker 4

Clippers finals run? Why head coach?

Speaker 3

Wow? Simple?

Speaker 5

That was That was an efficient answer.

Speaker 3

Not for us to go up.

Speaker 1

Uh huh yeah.

Speaker 5

Yeah, yeah, we'll take Yeah, we're taking that. We'll take We'll take that one.

Speaker 1

All right, take that one. Well, you can go back in time to personally witness any of the following. You can take your pick two thousand and four Western Conference Finals, Game five, Dfish game winner twenty nineteen Kawhi game winner over the sixers with the ball bouncing. This was my pick because I feel like if I had shouted at that moment, he might have like it might have been off like a spot.

Speaker 2

Would you have shouted like like super masculine or just like yeah, like you gotta do it. I remember doing that like basketball games and school has been like whatever you had, like yeah, yeah, okay.

Speaker 1

Just a sheer desperation. Yeah, as you said before we recorded, I'm Mark Wahlberg.

Speaker 4

This.

Speaker 1

It wouldn't have gone down like that if I had been in the crowd there, Yeah, and the difference would have been I would have been crying too, just like Joe LMB all right. Jordan's sixty three versus Boston in the playoffs Game seven, twenty sixteen Finals, lebron block le block. Which of those? Where are you going back to watching person.

Speaker 4

M J sixty three?

Speaker 1

Yeah, that just just the.

Speaker 4

Scene the one I remember where I was for the other three? Yeah, Like I wasn't there for that one.

Speaker 1

That's a good place you could be smoking a pack of cigarettes the whole time in the Boston garden.

Speaker 2

Yeah, it was cigarette night. I think everybody got one unless you were under twelve.

Speaker 3

Then you can get them. Yeah.

Speaker 6

Hey, by the way, another another sixty point game that you know the score didn't win the game. Well, yeah, it just comes back to Jordan shouts to my guy both.

Speaker 5

Yeah.

Speaker 3

Yeah, it's a lot of land.

Speaker 2

Okay, rank these current duos in terms of your expectations in the postseason Jannis, Dane, jok Murray, Luka, Kyrie k d and Book, Kawhi and Playoff Pete.

Speaker 4

All right, that's five of them, so you're gonna have to help me out.

Speaker 6

But I know number one it's gotta be Jamal just out of respect, uh, Luca, Book, Kawhi PG.

Speaker 4

Gotta go Kawhi. Uh. Out of the rest remaining, gotta go Kawhi, Paul.

Speaker 6

Okay, then I gotta go Katie Book, Johannis Dame Actually switch that. We're gonna go Giannis Dame over Katie Book. And the last one is going to be the Mavericks duo.

Speaker 5

Got it?

Speaker 3

Okay?

Speaker 1

Wow, we do not fear the Mavericks on this podcast, No, not at all.

Speaker 3

That's good.

Speaker 5

That's good.

Speaker 3

That's good news.

Speaker 5

That's good news.

Speaker 1

Finally, who's the most underappreciated, the truly all time greats. Give us a guy that deserves to be mentioned but often left out of the all time debates, and make a rhyme like those two sentences.

Speaker 6

Yeah, I don't have a great rhyme, but the first person that comes to.

Speaker 1

Mind, he there, he is, He's a poet.

Speaker 2

And don't you know it is Alex English.

Speaker 1

Wow, the Englishman.

Speaker 5

Yeah, Harry Kane massive. I had that Nuggets throwback jersey.

Speaker 4

It's a great jersey.

Speaker 6

Yeah, you're talking about a team that was consistently good, made a conference finals run, didn't obviously break through. I mean that man scored more points than anybody in the eighties from thank and eighty in ninety so people talk about points and that dude, all the dudes who played, he was the one who got the most, who scored the most.

Speaker 4

And we talked about out seeing the show.

Speaker 1

Shout out English, Yeah, shouts out to English.

Speaker 5

I didn't even realize that.

Speaker 2

I mean I always knew he was like a score, but then when you when you put it like.

Speaker 6

That, put it like that, Yeah, respecting his name.

Speaker 2

Absolutely, put pour out all the respect onto that name. That was a great answer. Well, law Murray, thank you so much for joining us on Miles and Jack a mad Boosti's where do the people find you and follow you, read your work and support your work.

Speaker 6

Yeah, shout out to the Athletic they put me on, they still put me on. It's your season four cover and mostly the Clippers. I promise you I'd cover more than just the Clippers. So there's that too. And I'm at I'm at all the social media sites that I need to be on. So yeah, you know, fight wherever they got that at? Yeah, lot Murray the New and yeah, like as long as y'all know I'm not here to be you know, your favorite player's voice of reason, just my own voice of reason.

Speaker 4

Okay, Yeah, I'm objective.

Speaker 6

Y'all gonna get mad at me because y'all emotional. But once I'll get over that, I feel like I help y'all out exactly.

Speaker 4

Need to let I just need to say that perfect. Perfect.

Speaker 1

There you go.

Speaker 2

You can follow the show on Twitter hashtag mad Boosti's bwsd i E as as you can find the show links and notes and all kinds of things like that, updates what have.

Speaker 5

You can follow me on Twitter at Miles of Gray.

Speaker 1

I'm at Jack Underscore, O'Brien, I'm just looking at alex English started fourteen playoff games one year and put up thirty a game for Denver. They made it to the Western Conference Finals in eighty five and lost little. That's thirty a game in fourteen playoff games. That's unbelievable, and shot fifty three percent from the floor. That's wild. H Yeah, yeah, yes, wild, Yeah, there it is.

Speaker 4

Yeah.

Speaker 2

Well, guess what we're going to be back because the season isn't ending, and either is this show, and we will be back.

Speaker 5

Now next week. We're just getting started, folks, and we'll have a better idea of what the playoff picture looks like.

Speaker 2

And maybe I will be sweating or crying or celebrating. I don't know, but we'll find out next week when we see you. Then bye bye,

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