MJGMB #106: State of the Bucks with Ti Windisch

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We're here one hundred and six episodes in, and the Houston Rockets are the hottest team in the league. The Cavs called it hit a bit of a wall, and we're here to discuss that and the state of the Milwaukee Bucks with NBA analyst Ti Windish on today's episode. I'm files great and I'm Jack O'Brien, and this is.

All right, hep, we're here. Ty Wendis is in the building. You cover the Bucks via the euro Steps.

Great pronunciation.

Yeah, I was gonna say, however people pronounce it if they listen to the show.

It's fine by me.

Where you want to row regional, but people, some people can roll the R and I think that's yea, but I can't even do it. Yeah, so step past Yeah, Blue Wire and the you Step podcast network. Anyway, Ty, thanks so much for joining us. Man. We appreciate you being here.

Thank you guys for having me despite my my tardiness on the show. They don't know, I know, I know. I just wanted to be honest. I wanted to be audio honest with the listeners.

You wanted to be honest and and you're also honest.

Guy Jami is just being.

Exactly.

I can't hear that now when I whenever I hear someone say be honest, I think of be honest because I'm like to that broken stage of Bucks fandom.

All right.

I get covering, podcasting, you know what, not fandom maybe.

But yeah, no, I get that we should be honest with me, honest, don't do it, don't do it.

We're having a serious discussion right now.

I am being I am being honest.

Being fanastis with you.

What that doesn't even.

Work, I know, But you were gonna get mad if I said, Yiannis that I had to let you thinking about it.

You're being all fanasty with me.

Yeah, well, according to my analysis, this is what is going on. That's his podcast right the now.

Oh yeah, yeah, so the live show with Steve and I Smith, they're they're doing big things right now.

Yeah, but the Bucks for twenty five looks pretty long. Yeah, the two seed. I mean unless something wild and wild and crazy happens. But I don't never happened to.

The Bucks and the twenty three twenty four seas, and that would arm so far.

Know, yeah, but yeah, I mean, like Doc Rivers coming in, a lot of people were like this, the right thing will happened? Why is he here? Fourteen to eleven.

Under were mocking him when they were asking that. That's why they were asking the questions about him. In his voice.

I mean, I can't do it. It was more like Robert Muller. I think what I was doing one time.

In college, I had like totally lost my voice for reasons I will not specify in this podcast, Okay, and I could do a perfect for like one day and it was like the best day of my life. Obviously far before he was the Bucks coach, but we all know he was so distinctive, like my voice had to be gone. Yeah, I was calling people off like doing like on the court, we have a good day there?

Like has his voice always been like that? I was coaching wear and tear. But then in like earlier in the season, I heard him on a podcast when he wasn't coaching, and his voice just sounds the same.

It's permanent like that now.

But what's a great question that I'm actually going to research after this pod is like when in life did his voice be call like was he in college at Marquette Like sounding like this as a young person, I can't imagine, but maybe.

Right, I think we need to ask R. F. K Junior what happened there? You know?

Yeah, we need some answers.

Yeah, I bet there's a lot of conspiracy theories, but who knows? Who knows? I mean, yeah, the the Thunder Thunder stopped buying. That was a bit of a blunder for the Thunder. Yeah, look, I'm trademarking that.

Good.

Yeah, thank you.

A bit of a blunder for the Thunder.

For the Thunder, I was going to do that. If only they had maybe Ben Simmons played there, then I would have I would have been able to.

Get do Rivers left them asunder?

Yeah wow, A true poet and don't you but yeah, that was I guess. That was the first time since the beginning of February the team had Giannis Dame Ann Middleton in the lineup. That's true.

I mean it kind of makes you wonder.

It's actually we've we've been plundered from watching basketball because they keep being out.

Yeah.

I think it was like the third or fourth game all three of them have played in the doc Rivers ten years. So again like the record is what it is, and there was some tough road trip moments with Doc. But also contributing to that was Chris Middleton missed so much time after Kevin Durant ended up in his landing area, so Chris sprained the ankle and the Bucks are just

He had to go out again. It was just kind of a nightmare.

So while there are Bucks people and just NBA people who are you know, very concerned and I think get you know, flight or fight or fight reaction when Chris is for any period of time, I do think the Bucks have learned how to handle it. But yeah, now that through the trio of them I saw Frank Madden shared today that they are the best three man lineup who have played at least six hundred minutes per net rating, so they have been dominant when they have played together.

But I do think this Bucks team, you know.

If they can stay healthy, which has been their biggest if for like three years, they're in a pretty good spot to go up against anyone, just with the top end talent some of the veterans they've assembled on this roster.

Is it true that Adrian Griff was trying to install the play where like Giannis gets down on the ground and barks like a dog and it like distracts them.

Is that I heard they wanted to do the ring around the Rosie played it suggested with Steph, where you just formed four players around dame and let him shoot because no one can get close to him.

Technically around really fast.

And I don't know why they tried it. I would try it.

Yeah, that never goes big with the veteran NBA teams.

Which is why we're to play all the young guys.

They would buy into some of these crazy pyramid plays and everything else.

Yeah, I'm just trying to like picture what the practices were like. Like, I think he had like some kind of scheme based defensive stuff right that they weren't buying in.

He wanted the first four I think the only lasted four games, but they were having Brooke Lopez blitz and he's seven feet tall and old and very large, and it just was not working and they gave up the most. I think they were last in the NBA and points out at the rim, which is a very non bucks thing when you be honest and set. Then you look at now they're back to like very very like zero basically against the thunder they don't allow any.

But yeah they did. They did.

Literally they ran around in a circle and danced and clapped the game after Griffin got fired. I mean it was I'm sure it was like a thing to do similar things all the time.

But it was like, very much like Joe, Okay, they really wanted this to happen.

This is like not this was not a surprise to the team as much as it was to everyone else.

I guess it sounds like a witch is coming to me. I mean, you know, listeners this podcast might not know how I feel about dancing, but I've been foot Lucian dancing. I don't know what was that thing for something?

You heard it mass over the weekend.

Oh yeah, just to you know, people in the woods dancing around. Yeah, can't good luck.

But yeah, yeah, like you said, seventeen and eight without Middleton this season, and you know, the posting I remember, like I was like in years past. I always remember, it's like when Middleton is not there, it's things start to wobble. Obviously, Damian Lillard is in there now, but I'm guess saying that's still very much a key piece because yeah, you're you're gonna need Chris Middleton, yeah, in the postseason to really kind of recreate the kinds of highs that you've experienced in the past.

Yeah, I think so.

I think you look at you know it just logically, I think their their biggest are their worst moments without Chris is you know, Johannison Dame bottled up to the extent that they ever are. But you know they make the outlet right, you have to sometimes you bring three to that action. You force the ball to go somewhere else. And just the level of confidence you have in the team when it's Chris Middleton operating and basically a three constant three on twos right if you send three at

Be honest, and we've.

Seen I mean again, they've they've been dominant when they played together, and it makes sense. I mean, there's you know, Chris is used to kind of being the one a ball handler alongside Drew Holliday. Now getting to really be the third distinctly third guy is a really advantageous spot for him. And he's you know, responding by leading the NBA in mid range field goal percentage and shooting forty

All right, pitch me the Bucks so that my NBA philosophy this season is just like I'm rooting for everybody except the Celtics. Yeah, the Celtics the field. To be honest, You're catchphrase, what is what's the like? How do the Bucks match up against the Celtics?

Like?

How make me feel confident in rooting for the Bucks as the potential spoiler to this Celtics season?

Yeah?

I think it really does come down to those three players, specifically, I think the big two. I mean, I think the idea behind the Bucks generally and certainly against the team as great as Boston is. That's fine if you have like the deeper team, there's just nobody on your team who can guard this two man action, and we can figure out enough defensive leaks.

We do have Giannis on the back line.

We do have some tough veteran defenders like Crowder and Patrick Beverly, and of course Brook Lopez is going to have some trouble in that series, I'm sure, just because they stretch them out with all their spacing with their

Which has been great to see.

He's been an elite three pull up three point shooter in the last month or so. But just the attention he gets makes life unfairly easy for you, honest, which is why he's on pace for and probably going to hit the first thirty points on sixty percent from the field. Season Ever, I think he shot seventy one percent against the thunder like teams show two to Dame. Giannis now has an advantage and he's just eating ridiculously.

So really the blueprint is that.

I mean you look at when those Giannis played the Celtics last in the playoffs. He averaged like thirty thirty four and seventeen rebounds without Chris at all, and so just him and Drew Holliday and basically role players. So I think it's really just like, Okay, giannest is set up to rampage. The help is better than it's ever been, even though the defense is worse. The offense should just be like ridiculous.

Yeah, I love it all right. I Mean my instinct has been it's the Bucks have the best chance. Everybody else is, yeah, just getting in the way. So let's let's get a healthy buy team to the Eastern Conference Finals against the Celtics, and.

I would love to throw Miami at them round one though, and just see, yeah.

Let's just see right like he looked dead. That's never stopped them before.

Yeah, I'm in what what I mean, like, what effect do you think that the game against the thunder Hat on the m v P race at all, because I know that was like a time we're like, hey, we get to see Shaye.

We get to see honest Shaye looked. He only had twelve points. What the three rebounds, two assists, I think or something like that, and a lot of.

People are like I was watching, I was like, he should score more.

I think, I think, yeah, yeah, but like, I mean, it's uh, I know for a lot of people now, people are like they're like, yeah, man, Shae is a joke or whatever.

Like I think, we there's so much reactionary stuff that happens that at the end of the.

NBA fanning your head.

Look the real fans that I thought of my group threads, it's nothing but unhinged reactions. It's like this guy was a joke from the beginning of this guy he could only score at the free throw line. It's like EmpId last year, man, Like that's the kind of those are the kinds of things like it.

But anyway, it can be less.

If he doesn't get to the stripe. Don't how many points did you really get? But anyway, I mean, like, how did that I mean, like, what is the what does the MVP lotter even look like? Right now?

Man, I feel like it's just furned it up for you, o Kich.

I think was already it could become first place, and it's probably going to finish there again, which I mean, I think it should be that this game, and there's another Bucks Thunder game on the menu that I would expect Shay to play quite better against the Bucks in in Oklahoma City.

I'm very interested to see that game.

We'll see how many people the Bucks send, with it being toward the end of the season, how serious they are in that game.

I hope serious.

I like when they played the top teams well and competitively. I think because they've had so few games with the top three players under doc, they should try and maximize these games. But they did against the Thunder. But I think it should give be Honest a little bit of propellant toward being more mentioned.

I mean, I think he's.

Kind of been like always one of the last guys thrown in almost like I know I have to say Honest, I'll get in trouble, but I really don't want to vote be Honest for MVP. I think part of it this year is the Bucks have had this weird, uneven season. But on the other hand, they've got the top net rating against top ten net rating teams, so they've played really well against good teams and then very poorly against the Wizards of the World and they got smoked by

I do think.

I do think you should have to be a certain tier of player, like a very, very very top tier player.

I think Jokic is.

I'm not sure Shaye is there yet, although he's was certainly knocking on the door of this season, I'm not gonna knock him from that just for this one game.

Is Jiannis meenor this season?

Like?

Is that? Is that just the a handful of stories that have broken through, or is he like gotten a bit of a chip on his shoulder this season that he didn't have.

I think he's had a chip on his shoulder for a couple of years now. I think.

I mean the way their playoff runs have gone the last two years. I mean, this is a guy as competitive as he is. I mean, I'm sure every year, right it's his goal to go win it all, especially after they did. I mean, you know, the out of can you win it in Milwaukee was erased in twenty one and then twenty two. It's like, Okay, you lose, you lose in seven, you almost had him in six.

You blow it. But you know, no one likes to make excuses.

One of your best three players didn't play a single minute the series, and the team that you lost, you went out of the finals. In retrospect, that's a series where you're like, okay, you.

Know, ye you lose those most of the time, right, Yeah.

Then last year he gets kind of hurt, but still something was just wrong. It seemed like coach Mike Budenholzer had kind of you know, his message wasn't totally resonating with the team, some quotes gotten afterward, and you know, had some missteps. Of course, had you know, personal tragedy happening off the court, which is horrible, and his family, but was just kind of not seem like the fit anymore. So then this new coach Griffin gets the endorsement of

He's probably done. Is Dame going to be their best player this year?

That's actually well, my friend group texts actually who are saying that people.

Yeah, yeah, they do.

They are those people don't by the Bucks organization to just like generate bullet board material for you, honestly like that.

I don't think he.

I don't think he actually sees it. I don't really don't think he does. I think maybe stuff that like the TV stuff, but I don't. I hope he's not one of the the Twitter guys.

I don't. I don't want the franchise player.

I don't read the everyone's an idiot on the stay of myself mainly included, so don't read about it.

Yeah, how last question on the Bucks, how do you feel like they are situated for like, it feels like we're seeing a tighter whistle the last like two three weeks than we've seen in maybe a decade. How do you think they're set up to deal with that?

I think most of most the most for the most part, very well. The one part they're not is just Dame had already not been getting a great whistle, I guess by his standards, and had been frustrated about the whistle he has gotten, especially on drives. They really do not give him continuation. When he does, he gets fouled and he's going to pull up, which, frankly, the way they say the rule, like I'm fine with. Like, by the letter of the rule, it shouldn't be continuation if you're getting fouled.

If you get fouled and then pull up, they're saying it's not continuation anymore.

Although I do feel like it's been legislated pretty tough on Dame in particular, But outside of that, for the Bucks on the other end, I think it's great. I think it's helped this defensive run for them in a big way. I think something Doc Rivers has emphasized is like putting the fear back and fear the deer and just being a really physical defensive team.

And you watch them now on screens.

I mean they just push guys around screens like that's how they do screens now, and they really disrupt actions, they disrupt back door cuts by doing it, and they're really I mean, they're getting away with it. They're allowed to defend more physically, and guys like Malik had to step up and be their wing defender just because gotta.

Looked her out and Okay, there's nobody else to do it.

I guess it's me, and props to him for taking that on. That's certainly not his rep but uh, I think it's allowed them to lean into that, to own the paint more, to be more physical contesting at the rim, and it's it's really I think, kind of bringing back their culture from a few years ago when they were going to the finals.

Man, I hate when I'm like in a situation, I look around and I'm like, oh, I'm a muscle. I'm a muscle. That's right, Okay, all right, guys, I guess I'd better take care of.

This, Luca.

I guess yeah, all right, Let's let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about the rest of the league. We'll be right back, and we're back.

We're back.

Miles just said bring us back, Daddy to me and just felt good. Cool. Anyways, we weren't even check them with with ah, I'm a little I'm a little out of sort.

Exactly.

They come there my stomach, but they come up through my throat. It happens, it happens. We wanted to check in with teams who have already beat their win total projections for this season, who because it's easy to lose sight, like we're like, oh, yeah, okay's good this year. Right, we knew that Minnesota is good this year. Okay, See in Minnesota have both already beat their win total projections for the whole season by five wins. Wow, they're already five wins. That's the most of I guess them and

People talk about very often.

Yeah, it's easy to forget who they are, you know, as the bottom of the plan. But they the Warriors are looking not great, and you have.

To say, you're not scared of the team behind you.

You're not in a good spot a franchise typically that's not you never want to.

Hear that, right, right, Remember the beginning of the season, just like in terms of like getting some perspective on this season, the Warriors were like kept getting into fights with the Timberwolves, and people were like, I think this means like the Warriors are taking the Wolves seriously. And now it's like, yeah, no, the Wolves are way better in the Golden State by like quite a bit, by yeah,

As if Nets fans haven't had it bad enough this season, we have to get this another round of reporting of like, oh, yeah, they wanted to trade Jalen Green there just so you guys know, enjoy firmly eleventh in the East and he's on an absolute tear and kind into that potential people saw for him. It does make you think though about these young guards, like how many people wrote off Scoot Henderson already.

It's like it takes time man, especially guards on the ball, I.

Feel like take the longest usually, And it's been really fun to watch Jalen Green from the recent announced to be later to see Gee League Knight team.

Go on this crazy roud.

I mean, the schedule has help the Rockets for sure, but I think that's a player who people have kind of.

Been waiting for more to happen.

And I always like to see those guys who have been kind of gone through the already gone through a news cycle because the NBA is the NBA of like he's done. He was he's a boss, you know, bad pick whatever. To see those guys come out and play, well, I'm always like that's cool, good for you.

Yeah, you know. I remember we were like what, I mean, what's Fred van Vliet doing going down there? And like what are they doing? Dylan Brooks like are they for real?

But yeah, it's they were like overpaying, but not like maxing out overpaying. It was just like that's a lot for him, but it's not. It turns out it's not that they haven't really overspent and they're not like locked in for I don't know, it feels okay, they feel like they're in a good position.

Well yeah, it's like they just got the right just just enough vet in there, yeah, to make it all make it all click for them. And I think a part of me, I mean, I'm I was talking with producers Jo Bar, I'm like, do we want to play the Warriors or do we want to play the Rockets or are we even are we going to fail? Are we even gonna be? I don't know, but I am. I am partially terrified of the Rockets a little bit more than the Warriors. I mean, they're both equally horrifying,

Wait no fair, no, no, no no you said no yeah no you said you said he's an ending.

You can't say, can't do that, can't do that, can't do that.

They're five, they're fives losing shng doon uh And I'm pretty sure Bill Simmons on his podcast was like, did you trade cheng Goon? What do we here?

Yeah?

Remember Sillo always going full second person where you like can't tell who he's talking about. He's like, then you're coming in and You're like you know, then you're gonna tell me? Then you're that, and I mean you're I'm like, what who am I? At this point, I'm so few love those guys, love their show. It just we're poking fun. But yeah, he was like Jaalen Green, all of a sudden, he got Bill Simon's got some smoke for saying something bad about Jayleen Green in seasons past, and now he's

Yeah, oh yeah, okay, oh yeah, we don't have to go all the way, one way, all the way.

He's having a really nice run in March. Can we just enjoy that? Do we have to? All Right, here's his Hall of Fame case.

Shooting fifty six from the floor and fifty percent from deep. That's where I'm like.

All right, totally sustainable.

Yeah, either the greatest shooter that we've ever seen of all time or you know, he's he's on a bit of a hot streak.

Yeah, yeah, but.

Yeah, I mean Udoka led the Celtics to a fifteen game improvement in his first year with Boston in twenty twenty one, twenty two, and he's already thirteen games better, uh with with these Rockets with twelve to play in Houston in his first year at the Helm. Like I don't know, it does make does make you kind of wonder, like, man, there he was just there, just there for people to hire, and you know, for there's a it's a bigger story

Just well, no, come on, just be real weird we are, we are struggling. You know, we were saying, you could I can care less about my Lakers drugger ling. But yeah, it's anyway, that's that's for another time, another time. But yeah, I I do. I think it would be really fun to see the Rockets sneak in there because it just it's.

Just a.

No and even but I'm saying my expectations are so low as a Laker fan. I'm like, I'm notou to be like they're going to stop us from winning the championship. No, you know, but because we already had our time to secure a better seed, and we just every time that opportunity present itself, we're like, well, I don't know what we're gonna do on just lay down and die. So yeah, in that sense, I'm more I'm here for the narrative.

What does it do to the Warriors.

If it's the Warriors, so they're the ones swear intenth and a game up or whatever, what does their summer look like if they don't make the play in and a healthy stuff season.

I mean, like we're mostly healthy.

I don't know, he's not gonna play all eighty two, but it's not like that one a couple of years there where he plays like twenty games and they're bad.

It's like, okay, close out Steph barely played, Like what are you going to do? This is like a hey, we should be competing up.

Wiggins has been kind of some stuff, and Draymond's been in and out because he keeps getting in trouble. But like, this should be a season where we're still pretty good. If you don't even make the play in. I mean, I know the West is good and know everything, but that's I would imagine that that gets you a pretty active summer if you do not make the play in with a prime Steph Curry on the roster, right, that's actually I'm not even going to qualify that's prime.

He's still he's still awesome.

Yeah, yeah, he really is. It doesn't feel like I don't know what I expect to see them do, though I don't know.

Oh, I have no idea. Someone should call Kevin Durant. That seemed to work for them.

Last time I did, they were pretty good. Run it back Calves, Like, I can't remember a single loss damaging a team's reputation as much as the Calves losing to the Heat on Sun Day. I mean they it's not a single They're three and seven or the last ten and they just don't look that good without Donovan Mitchell missed the last four games due to a nasal fracture.

Uh.

But yeah, Miami just smoked them in a way that people seem to find pretty convincing. Yeah, despite the fact that the Calves are a third in the East.

Yeah, but when you compare that to the other teams, Yeah, the other teams in the top six, they're six and four or better during that same stretch, You're like, yeah, that's Uh, I'm not a petition.

You can't hang the hat on the injury thing, because the Knicks are there too, and they, I mean they had their own three and seven run. I think they really just had no one playing right and they weren't getting as beat as bad as these Calves were Yeah.

Yeah, I feel like I was just saying before we record, I'm like, I remember last season, we're like, man, the Calves, look out, Man, look out. Then the All Star break hit and then you're like, what what happened to that?

Yeah?

What happened in a second?

Yeah, it's a bit of a bit of a pattern. I'm noticing. But I mean, are any are you what any expectations for the Calves or we just were thinking the Calves will calve.

It's so weird.

I mean I feel like they the first like beat up spell, they do that fourteen and one run and it's like okay, like hell yeah, they came together, like the season is, you know, they passed it together. And now it's like they're still hurt, probably equally as poorly hard. I mean, obviously Donovan Mitchell is a huge loss to any team. Yeah, but the fact that they just look kind of just like listless out there, that's what concerns me. More like you lose some games, you lose some games.

For Yeah, maybe Mitchell's just absolutely awesome.

These other guys are good, but without him, I think they've really struggled to just have enough punch, which you think they should be, like Okay, I mean you look at like the heat, you know, they're not exactly team firepower. They put up one twenty. So I think it says a lot about Mitchell too.

Yeah, it seems like he is the engine right, like they when this whole thing of them being a compelling team in the East started when Mobiley and Garland went down and he just took over. So it does feel like Cleveland needs Mitchell and they need him back soon. So we'll see his fractured nasal. But that's not an injury i'd heard of before. So you learned something.

They've heard of ERP injection too. There's a lot of stuff with Donovia Mitchell right now.

Yeah, Orlando another one of the teams that has broken their expectations already. This is that there the forty two wins already matched their twenty eighteen nineteen total, which is the last time they finished above five hundred. If they reached the fifty win plateau, it would be the first time since Dwight's tenure when they went fifty two and thirty and twenty eleven. Their coach Jamal Mosley's doing an incredible job, and they just have like a good solid corps.

I would, Yeah, I'll put my throwback jersey on to watch that matchup. Yeah, in a while, those rebbit MyD mits for that kind of matchup. I was. I was also reading like a lot of that, like at the end or the beginning of the season, like people were asking, like Anthony, Both Anthony Edwards and Jokic were like, They're like, who do you think is going to really surprise people how they play? And they were both like the Orlando magic.

Like defense is yeah, man, yeah, that that leaves an impression on you.

I feel like more than offense, and they have so many I didn't think Jalen SAgs was gonna be an awesome defender. I guess I didn't know too much about him and just coming out of the draft, but to see him kind of like struggle with the scoring but then just really hone in on that end has been really cool. Isaac playing again and still being like a you know, world destroying wing on defense has been fun.

In that good. But it's fun to just see kind of get through it. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

I mean, like you look at even Jonathan Isaac stats like for among bench players that have played over fifteen minutes per game, he's like first in like so many categories. So it's they've they've yeah, they've they've got some. But again, what do you think they're ceiling is this season?

Ty, I'd be pretty surprised if they won a first round matchup.

Yeah.

I just think well, with the half court scoring and just shooting issues in their lineup. We know teams in the playoffs get physical.

They packed the paint.

I just am not sure they're going to be able to overcome that four times to score enough points. I mean, we know they'll be able to hold down the teams they're playing, but like, if it's Cleveland and Mitchell is back, you only hold down Donovan Mitchell so much like that guy can get going get loose in the playoffs in a way. I just don't know if anyone on their team can will see, like maybe Franz and Paulo can do it and they're ready, but we just know they'llee extra attention.

I'm just not sure they have the offense.

But I mean, if they catch the right team, like this Cavs team that like, if they're kind of reeling going in. We just saw them get out physical by a not great shooting team last postseason. So Baby Orlando looks at that blueprint and goes, hey, we can do this.

Oh yeah, yeah, I mean they smashed expectations. If you had to pick one team to know, we're coming off of a playoff run by the Miami Heat that was unprecedented, you know, eight seed coming through. What what would you what team would you pick for to like make some noise. And you can't pick the Sixers because that's too obvious. No, you can. You can East or West, but you can't, yeh.

I know there's not many teams you can pick.

Can't pick the Sixers, man, I know, I don't.

Believe in them. If they were I would say, I don't believe.

In what.

Way you're talking about?

Man?

Wow, I would say the Palace. Yeah, they're kind of getting out at the right time. Zion's doing some really awesome Zion stuff. The I seems to be more locked in on defense, which has been nice to see. Again, they're still like they have some shooting questions and stuff to answer, but when they have some really strong two way players as well, and I just think.

I'm really excited.

I hope we get it like Zion in the playoffs, It's just gonna be so much fun. What does that look like? How worn down the teams get? Like again, I would pick Denver because I think Denver is just like amazing. Yeah, well, like Zion versus Jokic just could be such a fun like it's such a fun battle of guys, like such such different kind of dominating bigs. But they both dominate to a certain extent more so of course, But I would just love to see, like,

Yeah, and the heat. You feel like they just too many different they.

Go, No, they go every other year, they don't count.

It's all the time.

They could do it. I'd be pretty surprised this year.

I feel like they're so small it's just going to be hard, Like they just keep acquiring point guards and losing wings. But I'm not going to write them off until until they're mathematically eliminated. I think every Celtics Bucks or just general Eastern Conference fan is like, they could beat my team. They could beat my team in the series until there and even after it's like maybe they're going to find an exploit in the rule book to get back in this series.

I don't know, but they just never go away.

And obviously all of that is you know, your opinion of who would be good if we're not allowed to pick the Sixers. We did edit the part out where you said the Sixers aren't any good, I.

Would say something else.

We actually make it sound like he was saying the Sixers are the team that everybody would be like, they could beat my team. That would actually be great. Thank you, Brand the editor, make that happen.

Shop it together.

Yeah, we're actually a Sixers propaganda podcast where.

We just even if it's real choppy cuts like when that interview with Homer. Yeah, moving so sweet, sweet path.

Anyway, enough collar for this.

It's a normal size.

It's a normal size collar.

All right, let's take a break and we'll be right back with the rabid fire round of course, right after this, and.

We're back tie WEINDI ish?

Wow?

Well well, I mean, look, it's great to have you on the show, and to help commemorate this moment, we have to put you through our hottest of hot seats. It's a rapid fire round of questions. Okay, we're just gonna ask you a question you don't think, Just give us your just instinctual reaction. Just chest pass it right back, just shoot it right back at us. Don't expand on your answers. We don't care. We're trying to keep this tight. We're trying to get as many questions in as possible.

I love it. That's so I never think so I'm ready.

Good, good good. We like that on this show. We like not thinking on this show. And guess what's we're taught? Yeah, I see, I haven't thought yet single thing this whole time. I don't even know what're talking about? Who am I? Who are you? Okay?

Just watched an episode of Teenage Mutant Ninja Turtles where like the put the enemy had like a mind reading thing, so they had to fight without thinking, and like that blew their minds. They were like and then Donatello did all the moves without thinking. And that's a sort of digression that you need to just stop me from making, because this is supposed to be just rapid fire bang. No digressions about my children.

Rap it though for you, and no digressions about my children none whatsoever.

Are we one? But I'll let it go. Yeah, let's do it.

Yeah, Okay, I hope you're ready. Time here we go right.

Start the clock.

Our hands are tied. Here we can we just have to all.

Right, hopefully you can win dish here segment with some great answers, you know, we try. Hey, keep it moving. Those are those were B grade jokes man, those are grades. They were selling those at the joke outlet.

Mall.

Okay, now it's time to hit you with the real stuff. I said, Brian started the clock. Okay, the time the clock is going. Do you want to go first?

Check?

Or should I go first?

Uh? Why don't you go first?

I'm gonna go first. Tie wind dish more likely to happen, and why, but keep the why very brief? Wolves Finals run or Bucks Finals.

Run, Bucks Final Run. The honest is better.

M hmm, Okay, can you give us a little bit more than that, just so I can kind of have something.

To towns injury.

It's difficult for them, and I just think getting through Denver is going to be.

Okay. That's that was too much. That was way too much, dude.

Wow, wait, I kept it too brief.

Miles. Some people an inch and you know.

I know, I give you an inch and they take a mile.

Walk the miling your shoes or something.

Ty.

You could go back in time to personally witness any of the following take your pick, uh Wil's one hundred game four, twenty twenty one finals, Kobe's eighty one Game seven, twenty sixteen Finals, the Lebron Block, and also you get to bring Twitter with you.

Yeah.

As much as I love the Milwaukee Bucks, I'm gonna say the Lebron block Game seven, twenty sixteen. I think it's probably the greatest basketball game we've all gotten a witness in our lifetimes.

Yeah, I agree that that was a Blacks. I do wish I was more on Twitter back then.

I hit a three at the Sports Arena in fifth grade.

Wow.

Yeah, that was second on my list.

I had an NBA three.

I wish I was there too as a fifth grader.

And almost anyway, we got to keep this movie.

Say during Clipper night, Yeah yeah, look, I don't talk about Wait, so the main event was your game and the Clippers playing in between was like the special event. You gotta let the weepers play in between.

Exactly exactly it was. It was it was a charity match. It's a charity match where we liked to. I remember Keith Klass was begging me for some guidance. I said, look, kid, why don't you come on by? Why didn't you bring Dominique? Was there previous year? It was like, were good times, good times back then. But don't get me on a digression about my past or my kids. It's about the rapid pie Riders. Next one, Taiwin Dish rank these current

I think you had him in order. I think you had Order.

Over Murray over Yokramurray.

Wow.

But I think the last two and that's I think they're very close. I think the first two are very close to the last two are very close. I think Dame has a little more upside than than Murray, although in the playoffs Murray has been absolutely ridiculous and maybe he just picks that up again. But if he does that again, then it's probably that duo. But he has been just kind of unbelievably hot to the extent I don't know if I think you can keep doing it.

Okay, that's right, Ty.

Somebody's coming to the city of Milwaukee for one weekend and it is the Boss, Bruce Springsteen. Uh No, it's it's just somebody and they they're looking for a good job. They reach out and they say, give me the three spots that need to hit up. Could be restaurant, could be bars, let's get bars, could be a track shifts. What are you telling them to do?

I always tell people to go to the art museum. This is a very Milwaukee answer. Classic art Museum, the College Trava everyone should check it out. I don't live in Milwaukee, so I don't have the great restaurant spots in Milwaukee.

I will just put that out there.

I live in Oshkosh, which is if you thought Milwaukee was small and cold, you have no idea, is what I'll say to the people country.

But I would say, yeah, that's actually where it came from.

Wow.

Yeah, So go to Oshkosh, Bigosh factory in Oshkosh, go to the art museum.

Uh.

And then I'm trying to think of like my top restaurant in Milwaukee.

Actually, give me the top restaurant in Oshkosh.

Yes, that's easier for me. Yeah, Fletch's, Fletcher's tap Out.

No, that's all right. Ruby.

What do they got there, dude?

They have a chicken Euro that's sensational. They do.

They do very good burgers. They have a boota bowl that's pretty good. I don't go to that too often. I'm more a burger checking Europe guy, but the chicken euro is probably my number one man.

Did they have a chicken euro before? Jannis?

I didn't go before, You're honest, didn't go outside before you're honest.

Weight when I have to change.

Joy was invented, and they didn't.

I used to drink only sprite, and I started drinking water after. You're honest, change my life, Change my life?

All right? Who's the most underappreciated of the all time greats, someone that deserves to be mentioned but is often led out of the all time debates?

That's a great question. I don't let me know if this answer counts. Does Kareem count?

Yeah, that guy stinks, maybe he heard heard.

Him stinks, But for what he did, how much he won, his individual and team dominance, Like I think he's probably never going to be in these goat combos anymore because now, of course it's all m J. Lebron and Jay Lebron, and then whoever's next Wendy or whoever is going to be the next will be him versus Lebron.

I'm sure, yeah, nas Reid probably.

But the the dominance of Kareem, I mean the fact that like they didn't they didn't let him play on the varsity team at U C. L A, But he beat that team in a scrimmage and that team won the championship. Like he just won so much at every level and was so unstoppable. They and the dunk because of him in college, some real ridiculous stuff. So I would say, Kareem, uh and if that city, that doesn't count.

I don't even know Kareem.

That's I think that's really Yeah. It's just he was so dominant for such a period that people just kind of got sleepy, got sleepy about it. They just come on.

I remember I watch Latter Day Kareem and I was like, I used to call him the glasses guy. Yeah, and then and I was always taking my down. I'm like, why is he playing like he looks old and respect.

All right?

To learn? You learn, you learn well, ty Windish, thank you so much for joining us. You made it through. Those are all the correct answers, I will tell you that. Yeah. And and I just checked at the Chicken you at Rubiel it looks pretty good.

That's outstanding.

Deliverery you said it's like so cold. That really got my attention. I'm like, I as someone who chases the cold, as a native Angelina, I'm like, I want to know what it feels like when your bones go numb.

Oh, it's solid. It's real quiet out when it's cold.

Yeah that's true. Yeah, gone away, yeah yeah yeah.

Yeah, but again, thanks for joining us. Where can the people find you, follow you, listen to you all that kind of good stuff.

Yeah, thank you guys so much for having me first at tie windish c I W I N D I S c H on Twitter And if that was said too fast for you to listen, you can find our podcast about the Bucks. We also have other Wisconsin sports pods and my socials and the rest of our team at GSPN dot.

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What do you say? You say? You do? You say euro Step?

Yeah, you're you know, to make.

It this I think make it the same as the basketball move makes the most sense. Yeah, but again, I'm not going to get in a fight with a whole region of people because they refuse to say yeah Gyro.

So go ahead again, you listen to subscribe. You're good with me?

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