Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of Macaroni Trench Cheese. Is that that's a Thanksgiving delight?
Yeah, it's the for me, it's the main course.
Jack Ah, you're a wild man?
Is that right there? Super producer Brian Jeffrey.
Yeah.
It it feels borderline to me because not because nothing against macaroni and cheese, just it feels like it's not specific enough to Thanksgiving, you know, whereas all the other stuff I like turkey, mashed potatoes, stuffing, gravy, those feel very particular.
What is what is Thanksgiving food to you? Like not listing the food, but like as an.
Idea, like you don't want me to just keep sitting cranberry uh, dinner rolls?
Uh?
Yamn?
Yeah.
I think it's just when I said that, it like is specific to Thanksgiving, whereas like mac and cheese, I'm as likely to eat mac and cheese on any other day of the year as I am on Uh.
Yeah, but okay, to me, Thanksgiving mac and cheese is like okay, so I'll eat box mac and cheese, like you know, like that Annie's whatever the fuck and you like dress it up a little bit, but all in the pot. But Thanksgiving mac and cheese is its own thing.
Oh I'm not allowed to do Annie's on Thanksgiving. No you can't.
It can be a part of it.
But it's like, to me, like Thanksgiving mac and cheese was always like a baked situation with like the crust on top, and it's like just you. You approach it differently, and it's so it's like extra good. It's extra decadent.
Yeah, mine's extra decadent because I'll cut up some hot dogs and put it in there. So box mac and cheese with some hot dogs cut up. It's called the Thanksgiving Special. Oh hell yeah, bro, all right, my name's Jack, that's Brian. These are some of the things that are trending.
Shall we stay with Thanksgiving? Because butterball was trending on Twitter following a Fox News segment in which Jason Chafits told Kaylee mcinnanny mcnaney and some other gobsmacked dummies that Thanksgiving turkeys now cost a whopping ninety dollars.
Where's she getting her turkey?
I know, and like that butterball turkeys cost that much.
It's not even ninety for like a prepared right.
Well, but according to them, it's a choice by Joe Biden.
Joe Biden did it. He's he's decided to make it so people can't afford their Thanksgiving turkeys.
That diabolical bastard, that.
Son of a bitch. But I don't know.
It seems especially done because the price of turkey actually went down this year by about five point six percent, by about five point six percent, just around in the general vicinity of five point six percent, so twenty seven dollars for a sixteen pound frozen whole turkey, because of the decrease in poultry that have been affected by the
bird flew outbreak that began in twenty twenty two. So they're they're in year two of their global pandemic, their global turkey pandemic, and have have figured out some things to do to keep the turkeys from dying enough that it isn't affecting the supply chain as much.
Gotta love a fluidic in jump species.
Well, I've never heard of those. That's not possible, right, that can't happen. Whipping cream and cranberries have also gone down. It seems like prices topped out last year and are are steadily slowly creeping down. So the like index from people who aren't. Fox News is saying that the average cost of a Thanksgiving dinner for ten people this year is sixty one dollars and seventeen cents, which gotta love
those non la prices. That sounds that sounds wonderful. Yeah, that's down four point five percent from last year's record of sixty four dollars and five cents. Still expensive, but like the fact that prices are going down. You know, the Fox News isn't gonna want to talk about that. But twenty twenty two record high for turkey prices, record high for all these other prices. But it's it's expensive. It's not ninety dollars per turkey expensive.
It kind of begs the question, has always begged a question for me, why turkey? And why still like what the fuck are we doing? Traditions annoy me in certain aspects, and Thanksgiving is is right up there at the top of the list of like what are we doing?
It's I think it's the one time you can actually choke it down because it has so many of the other moistening moisteners on the plate with your gravy, your stuffing that make it so that you can just kind of saw that shit into small enough pieces and gay get it down, you.
Know, Okay, here's the thing, Cranberry.
I'm gonna uh oh, I'm gonna.
I'm gonna again where I'm just listing Thanksgiving foods again.
No, but Jack, maybe you'll know because you, you know, you ran a website that had a lot of factoids and I've never bothered to look it up. Is this like a is turkey a marketing thing? Like? How how far back does the turkey thing go?
Goes all the way to the top?
Man?
Turkeys all the way down? I don't remember.
I know there was something with Butterball being involved in the kind of creation marketing design of the Thanksgiving holiday, you.
Know, like Sinco de Mayo or some shit like where it's just like it's just made up.
They specific invented it. I think Butterball was involved at some point. I don't think it was like Abe Lincoln in a smoky room with the air to the Butterball fortune, quite like that, but it it is more kind of specifically thoughtfully put together than I realized based on my vague recollection of the factoid that we did about this.
Because my whole thing is like I'm not opposed to a feast. I'm not opposed to getting together with your family, but it's like Thanksgiving is so prescriptive.
Yeah, and it annoys me.
You have to have turkey like kind of you know how you were saying, you were alluding to this like traditional Thanksgiving thing, but it's kind of it's hard to Yeah, you're just you have to list because it's not like a really clear criteria. You just know it when you see it.
Yeah, And it's no thought put into it. And that is tradition and a nutshell to me. And it's it's really frustrating to just mindlessly what we gotta get the turkey, no matter what cost.
Literally, that's right.
Yeah, anyways, the costs aren't so bad this year. But have a happy Thanksgiving to everyone. Hey, speaking of happy things to everyone. Joe Biden it turned eighty one a couple of days ago, and he did a funny social media post where he said, turns out when when you're turning one hundred and forty six, you get you get
a lot of candles on your cake. And then there's picture of his cake posing a absolute fire hazard to his extremely dry face and hair and just dry persona, Like it's probably the closest president has ever come to just going up in flames in a split second.
Yeah, it's like propping up a scarecrow next to a bonfire.
Yeah.
He feels like the most our, most flammable president in a long time.
Like he's the tender president.
That's right.
It's like get a bigger cake, yeah, or or just get the numbers where it's just eighty one, Like, I don't know why you had to put so many candles in such a small surface area.
He's trying to like have a have a good sense of humor about the fact that he's on death doorstep and we check the news every morning with the thought in the back of our head like maybe maybe the president has died and it's going something right whether he can die or where. It's like what kind of mileage.
They can get out of a president, like, because it's just a bad look to have your president.
It's just like dying on you for sure. Yeah.
I mean there's they there's a public review of his latest physical Like that's part of the job of part of the like ritual around when people decide to run for president.
But I don't think they'd let I don't think they whoever they, whoever you think they is, I don't think they'd let him run if he you know, if he.
Couldn't be propped up.
Literally for another four years. Yeah, just wax museum that shit. Basically, I used to I used to have thoughts like that, and then they let Trump be president and stay president and now be threatening to like come back and be president after he's been like tut. The CIA, they are a bunch of jokers. You know, I'll I'll fire the whole CIA if I become president again.
And they're just like, I don't know.
It's oddly more comfortable to think that there is pure comic book evil somewhere out there pulling strings. Then to the harsh realization that this is just a mess of It's like a bundle of snakes.
This thing's not on rails, this thing is yeah, just a bunch of snakes and rats with their tails tied together. Yeah, all right, let's take a quick break.
We'll come back, we'll hit some more stories. We'll be right back and we're back and all right. So some good news.
Media literacy has now a required subject in California schools, which is good I'm glad they passed this legislation.
Kids are probably.
Not the people I'm most worried about not being able.
To I'm like, can I get my mom back in school?
Yes?
Exactly.
We there should be like we should if they want to keep their driver's license, maybe we could like make it so that they have to pass it, because they definitely want to keep their driver's license.
We have so Elon Musk.
We did dig into this a little bit more on tomorrow's episode, but Elon Musk is suing Media Matters for pointing out that his website has a bunch of people's you know, bunch of massive brands ads right next to people being like Hitler rule, like a picture of Hitler looking cool, And he's like suing them on the basis of like that being bad for his business, and like he's not even saying it's not true.
I don't even understand like the fact that you can even I mean, maybe what that's why he filed this lawsuit against a Maryland company in Texas is because he's probably allowed to do that there, right, because it makes.
No I mean, it makes no sense.
Like one of his own posts admits that the Media Matters screenshots were genuine, But he's just arguing that through their investigation, reporters artificially saw more ads than a normal account would, which one lawyer pointed out as a little like blaming a customer who posts about a cockroach in a salad for ordering too many salads.
But Andrew Tait has rushed to.
His rescue and proudly announced that he will pay one million dollars a month.
I will advertise X on X.
I will literally promote your own platform on this platform. So does he understand how advertising or I think this is just like a donation. But yeah, even if this winning air type business plan were to somehow happen, it would probably not mean that X wouldn't need advertisers. Since Apple's add money alone totaled one hundred million dollars in twenty twenty two, that's shocking to me that they were spending one hundred million dollars as recently as last year
on Twitter to advertise on Twitter. Like again, back to the old people having poor media literacy. That suggests that people are actually like clicking on Twitter ads.
Yeah. Interesting, all right, we we.
Have some evidence from an Enric Enrique Iglesia's concert that he is not as good a singer as we all thought he was.
I was working on another podcast and someone had gone to an Enrique Iglesias show and they were talking about how like it was like I think it was like Ricky Martin and Enrique, and they said they loved it. The energy was great, they said. They were talking about Enrique's ritz and how he's really he's really got something, and then his singing came up, came up, and they were like, let's not get into that at all, Like
they're like, let's just move past. It sounds like what would happen if I was on stage at an Enrique Iglesias concert and trying to sing Enrique Iglesias.
It just sounds like a dude who like kind of knows the words speak singing a song. And and then at one point he like goes high pitched and sounds like he's like, you know.
The high pitched, non singing singing.
The people are like, like, you're doing this shower. Yeah, yeah, yeah, no, I've heard still, I've heard tell of this numerous times before, so yeah, this is funny to see in the news.
Yeah, people people found out apparently, And then finally the Enrique Iglesias of the sixties, Bob Dylan has come back to people's attention and acclaim. On TikTok there is something being called Bob Dylan core, which is just wearing a jacket that isn't warm enough for the weather and then like kind of pulling it over you like he does on the cover of The Free Wheel and Bob Dylan it's you know, it's a bit it's bad.
For your health.
Guys, do something else that Bob Dylan made look cool, like smoke cigarettes.
That's better for you.
It's it's not enough that we have like old and middle aged white men constantly overrating Bob Dylan and his influence throughout the twentieth century in like you know, rolling Stone, stuff like that. And now the youth, Now the youth are going to do Bob Dylan in a weird tangential one.
And his riz. They're they're going off his riz. I'm a Bob Dylan fan, but I suggest you go off of some of his winter fashions from the seventies when he wore like big fur hats and like just some of the good most garish like jet coats and stuff.
But he at least.
Yeah, he had like a fluffy hat Paz in the seventies. I'd recommend pursuing that and saying I'm doing Bob.
Dylan for yeah, very way.
From his albums that nobody's ever heard, because they're not as good as the other ones. Brian, thank you so much for joining. Where can people find you? Follow you? Nowhere? Is still nowhere?
Still nowhere?
Yeah, Jack, no one can find me.
I actually googled myself last night and I am a fucking internet ghost ghost, Like there are hints that I was alive at once.
You're going ghost protocol on par asses and you do have your hood up like Tom Cruise when he goes ghost protocol.
Yeah in those movies. Well, that is going to do it for us this afternoon. We are back tomorrow with the Who last episode of the show.
Until then, be kind to each other, be kind to yourselves, get the vaccine, don't do nothing about white supremacy.
And we will talk to you all tomorrow. Bye bye,