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Well, hello the Internet, and welcome to season three oh seven, Episode five of the Daily zeitgeistup production of iHeartRadio. This is the podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. It's Friday. Wooo, thank you so much for getting it there. It is Friday, October sixth, and you know what that is. It's World College Radio Day. It's National Coach to Day, shout out if you ever had a good coach, National Orange Wine Day. I know
my hipsters on both coasts loving their orange wine. Uh, let's see National Body Language Day. Shout out to pseudo science, National plus size Appreciation Day, National maide Fracturing Day, World Smile Day, National Noodle Day. We are jam packed, so there's even more National Mad Hatter Day. Shout out to everybody with mercury poisoning. This isn't that why the mad the hatter was mad? Because from like isn't that like colloquially where it comes from working with mercy? Yes?
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Aha. Aha, Well guess what my name is? Miles Gray aka in honor of that FEMA broadcast cause I got the vaccine zop my brain with five G I'm un dead, I'm undad. Thanks Joe Brandan shout out to Conchi. Wow, Wow, you spelled that like Cole and then Friedrich Friedrich Nietzsche and then wa wow on the discord, I see you. I'd be picking up what you're putting down. And guess what, y'all, I am joined you already heard the lovely tones coming from my guest co host, really one of my favorite
people to do the show with. I don't know how many more times I have to introduce her as, you know, one of the shining lights out there on the internet, someone who has impeccable taste when it comes to media, someone who has their hands on some of the best podcasts in the game. Right now, please welcome Joe.
Money A lipstick down his back? What's up?
How are you? How you doing?
I after up my own birthday plans. I've been a little sour on it.
What do you mean were ours?
Initially? I told my friends, Hey, let's do the fourteenth, and then my friend was like, I can't do the fourteenth. I was like, well, it's not gonna be fun without you. Let's do the seventh. But my brain didn't clock the chain from the seventh to the fourteenth, and then I was like, I really need a break. I filmed the movie last weekend. I'm so glad I took this weekend off and I'm doing my birthday on the fourteenth. So she reached I was like, what time I picking you
up the Saturday. I was like, no, honey, next Saturday. She was like, I'm out of town next Saturday. I already had this conversation with you. I was like, no, I gotta refigure out all my birthday plans, findday, all my girls are available. Good I the ady D kicked in, So yeah, so annoying. I will be fine. I'm gonna pick myself up. I mete myself friendch toast this morning, so already a little bit better. We're working on it. But man, the eighty D strikes again. She's brutal.
Luckily, you know, like, I think I think that's a good way to give yourself a pass to have like a birthday three weeks. You know what I mean?
Oh I like this.
I like this. Yeah, I mean like, yeah, I just recently celebrated my birthday with my mom, like last weekend, and it was already almost a month ago. But you look, I love it. It's not always bound to the day. Any Let's let us bring in our guest, because we always have fantastic guests. Another titan of podcasting. You know, she's worked on countless amazing shows like Reply All, et cetera, recently hosted the amazing history podcast Past It is currently
hosting the show Past Perfect. And not only that. On top of the podcasting, they're writing, they're performing and filmmaking. Okay, please welcome to the third seat. Someone.
Hello, Hello, Wow, almost out of breath listening to this introduction.
I've been on journey already.
I have to I have to hit my inhaler really quick, make sure I got to have the lung capacity to keep up. But Simon, thank you so much for joining us. How art that? How are you?
I are fantastic. Thank you for asking. It's a sunny day here in Brooklyn, you.
Know, yeah, what's the what's the temperature right now in New York?
Oh? I can tell you that is seventy six degrees? Very pleasant. Some people are really living right now.
That's that's what I'm talking. You know, our guest yesterday also in Brooklyn, and we were talking about the floods. Were you near one of the intersections that was flooding the way you would described it? Yeah, I was not.
I was a little bit you know, above ground. But I do know folks who yeah, got into some hairy situations. Nothing yeah, life threatening, thankfully, but you know, like couldn't use their water because it would pump raw suwage up into their apartment.
Were those videos, you know, because Most of the time we're just like, oh, that bus got flooded, and then other times I think, Joelle, I think we were on a call actually when we were talking about this, but I'm like, I feel like the real fucking devastation happens in those basement apartments those I actually.
Saw a video right after that of somebody like trying to tape up the seam in their door as their apartment is flooding, and I was like, it's too late, and he said's not gonna work. I'm so sorry for you, terrible.
I love the logic. I love the cartoon logic though, the seams and that will hold back the weight of the water, the torrenstial downfo.
Yeah.
Yeah, well you know we love a dream around here. Well, Simon, we are gonna get to know you a little bit better, but first we're gonna tell people what we're talking about today. A little bit of politics. We got to touch on today because Joe Brandon never stopped building Trump's wall, it turns out, and we're finding a little bit more about what's going on there and why it's probably what's gonna
just keep happening. We're also gonna talk about Matt Gaets unfortunately, who might be the new Madison Cawthorne because Republicans are starting to say some really weird stuff about him in public and it feels like the you know the same thing we saw like the coordinated dismantling of a member of Congress where they want to oust from their party.
So we'll touch on that. Also, it's time the annual candy map that we always discuss every year on this show has been released about every state's favorite Halloween candy. Are going to see you know what is going on? You know what, what has changed, what hasn't changed, Who's on the come up because there's some movers on that list. And also Drew Barrymore. We got to talk about Drew
Marry Moore. She her show's back, but guess who ain't the writers because they want nothing to do with her after that nonsense that she pulled trying to be out here self scabbing or whatever she thought she was doing. But we'll talk about that and plenty more. Be first simone asking you since here the guests, Yes, what is something from your search history that's revealing about who you are?
Yeah?
So this was a very interesting exercise to like go back and see what am I up to? Something that I wanted to highlight as a trio of searches jeggings followed by jeggings cringe, and finally jeggings ugly.
Oh okay, so this is new Jenny my Okay, so I've done similar searches like this. Is it because you're in the jegging market and you just want to make sure that you're not totally walked by wearing jeggings or are you working on a story about how jeggings are totally washed and nobody?
Oh thank god, it is the latter.
No, I am not in the market for jeggings in twenty twenty three, thank you very much.
That's what I'm saying. I didn't that's why. Yeah, yeah, that's what I was. Yeah, yeah, I'm the same place. Yeah I wasn't checking that because I don't because I know they are bad and washed.
Okay, yeah, yeah, we're all on the same page about the jaggings. No. But so this was actually for an episode of Past Perfect. Okay, So, for those who don't know, it's a time traveling trivia show, and last week we put out an episode all about the twenty tens, and yeah,
I needed some visual references for jeggings. Yeah, And I feel like the reason why there is this like multiple searches is because, okay, conspiracy theory potentially, but I feel like there is an effort to like erase how truly horrifying jeggings were as a trend, because when you Google image search, it's like it's like all very time, like it's all the classy jaggings and it's none of the real you know, right, yeah right, yea.
Oh okay, so keep your eye open for them, yeah, because something might be a foot. Did you ever wear jaggings?
Full disclosure, Full disclosure.
I did wear jaggings, And maybe that's why I feel I have a deep wound in my heart because I did god in.
Public a lot in cheggings.
We do have to let the children know that, Okay, when jaggings came around, your only options were very uncomfortable jens. So they were stiff, they were too tiny, They're awful, And then they were like, what if you had a soft, comfortable gene. And that is why we went full tilt into the jaggings as a culture for a moment, and then we had the review photos of ourselves.
Later we were like respect we have as an ignorant Cis head man. Are jaggings described as just leggings merely with the denim graphic printed pond the fabric or are we talking about those like super elastic jeens too? Were those jeggings.
I'm talking about like, yeah, essentially leggings fabric with a photograph.
Of gens and on top. Yeah, terrible photo. Now are there really elastic jeens out? Because I need those with my thick thighs, so they just don't.
Technology, which you're gonna want to do? Is sad over to Good American. I'm sorry to support a Kardashian, but Chloe Kardashian found a business that works.
And she's sticking to it and it's real good.
Uh.
They have gene.
I think there's like what six sizes in a single gene. There's so much stretched Oh wow, which is crazy Okay, and they are apparently really really.
I'm sorry, what is the name of the company, Good American? That is the worst fucking name. I will never buy anything. I'm sorry, I will never buy anything that's just good.
I thought it was a maga thing when I first heard about it, I was like, what's happening over here, and they were.
Like, no, it's Chloe Kardashian's gene company.
And I was like, okay, this kind of sounds like Republican gens.
Like wow, okay, uh, they're good not bad our bad American jeans.
Okay.
But then also that also sounds like from the perspective of someone like abroad, who's like another bad American has shown up. And I'm like, no, no, no, no, I'm merely just from this sordid place. I don't carry all of its fucked up values. But yeah, jeggings. For the record, I guess they're out, so I will no longer purchase them for the record. Okay, good to know, Simon. What is something you think is overrated?
Okay? I wonder if this will be controversial.
But go ahead, go ahead. Baths?
Baths, I think they're overrated. Okay, all right, I need the details.
What walk me through this? Walk me first of all?
Wow, so you have to do a chore before you even get started with the activity you want me to relax, but preceded by labor, Like I'm already out, you know what I mean. I need to clean the tub, I need to clear whatever's in there. I need to get everything, you know, because I'm you know, I'm about to be sitting.
In a Yeah. Yeah, yeah, you don't want to beat a bacteria in the water.
Yeah, exactly right.
I get that.
So that's already that's a high barrier.
Okay. First of all, okay, Second of all.
Temperature control way too variable. I'm too hot, I'm too cold. I'm comfortable for like maybe thirty seconds of the whole experience.
Right, okay, okay, okay.
Next, and this is a big one for me.
Okay, I'm putting my butt on wet ceramic.
That is a sensory nightmare. I don't enjoy the feeling of that.
But you think at that point, right, the ambient temperature of the like, it all kind of equalizes, right, Like it's you're saying it just or is just ceramic.
Just yeah, it's not for me. It just makes me think of damp and dank, and it's it's not a it's not a comforting experience for my body.
I'll put I never thought, honestly, I never thought about the feeling of what it's like for your butt to be in a bathtub. But now you've you've given me a new way to a new perspective. I do thank you for that.
Yeah, oh my my pleasure.
Yeah.
And then my final point, if you do somehow get the slightest hit of texture, a grain of sand, a hair something that again, like that'll send me over the edge.
I'm like, what the hell is in this tub with me? Yeah, haven't forbid. You have bubbles and now you're pushing them around, like what else is in here? I'm horrifying.
It's yeah, you get it, you get it. It's on your show.
I do the bathtub stew has been confused. My mother is like a huge bath person. She loves a bath like I get it, sees all it's in the bath bomb. And also she's like it's so reallyad. It's like a dance spots, Like I've been to the spot and it's not all like that a spot. They do all of the work at the spot. The tub is a reasonable height.
I don't know if you've ever been in one of those tubs where they're like, okay, so now you're gonna like with your whole body, wet and slick, hop out onto a tile floor.
Don't die.
Hopefully that's not an all relaxing situation. If we have hip issues, this is dangerous. And then on top of all of that, then you know, when you're done with your bath and you're drained the tub, there's always gonna be some kind of residue. I to stay behind and like shower the tub down, like try to make it somewhat halfway decent.
Baths are a lot extra by a hot tub.
Oh process, Okay, hot tub I can get behind and they shame like they're closely related.
But I think you're right, they're totally different experience, totally different.
Okay, yeah, I know producer Victor said he he's riding with this take. I'm I'm pro bath. You know, that's I think a cultural thing I have. Japanese we love the bath where it's all about bath culture. But there's a difference. Right when you get into bath in Japan, you clean your you clean your ass and everything before you get in your tub. You enter like the tub
is something you enter clean. So a lot of the times, but most American bathrooms are not set up like a Japanese or Asian style bathroom where it's like your shower is kind of and like you would basically sit on a little stool and kind of just like wash yourself down, make sure you're clean, get all your dead skin off, then go in the tub and enjoy it because that is it's very relaxing. It helps me go to sleep, like if I'm if I'm having trouble sleeping, a nice
bath before that's the trick. But I get it for those of us who have sensitive butts, that's it's not it maybe isn't the best way to go. I'm gonna go on a limbs say you're a very very sensitive person, like in general, right like you the way you are pointing out different textures and things, I'm like this person, their senses are firing on all cylinders. You know.
I husband maybe called particular previous times in my life you're picking up on something.
Do you have any other weird is there? Okay? So because I'm sorry the thing about my butt being a wess c aamic I can't. I can't let that go, Like it's so specific. Do you have any other specific things that are sort of similar in that vein where you would be like, oh, I don't do that.
Well, I find I'm realizing like it's something having to do with like when my body touches surfaces. I have a hard time being barefoot a lot of places, Like I get really in my head about like what's going on?
What am I coming in contact with?
But like.
Being in like sand or mud or like in nature, like that's fine, but like my feet on tile. Maybe it's ti something with bathrooms. Difficult relationship with bathrooms. I think I'm learning as I'm talking right now. Horrifying places bathrooms.
Oh yeah, yeah, it's always not that's always weird stuff happening in there myself. Okay, let's go to something a little bit different. What do you think is something that is underrated?
Okay, something that I think is underrated is listening to classical music at the gym. And this is something I only started doing kind of recently, and it's been a huge game changer.
It's like it's really meditative and energizing at the same time. Beethoven's fifth goes especially hard interested that's basically house kind of Yeah, that's yeah, yeah, it's a very like that. Excuse me, yes it is. Yeah, dun, dun, dunn. It's a very arousing, and I mean that in the just it's a very sick okay, stimulating, like it's and like to the point where I was like, like, I didn't,
I don't. I didn't know too much about Beethoven's history, and I was like, this kind must have and like the guy of his day, right, like he's probably doing He's like the usher in Vegas, you know what I mean of his time. So I looked it up, and uh,
that is not the case. Turns out it was like the exact opposite, and he was actually a very romantic and love sick person who like didn't consummate his love with the many women that he fell in love with, which interesting that you created a romantic king.
Okay, yeah, I mean exactly this other thing.
I mean, are we claiming him? You know, because the other rumors that Beethoven was.
Black, Okay, I haven't seen this.
Hilarious when they're like, look at this, he might be light skin like okay, sure, maybe it's like a very interesting internet thing of like Beethoven was black.
Sure, I guess I love a black Ludwig.
Yeah what about Okay, so you got Beethoven bumping through the headphones? Is it? Like? Is that like good for just in general? It just puts you in a good place to focus because for me, whenever I've listened to music, I kind of need it to be like a motor that drives my limbs to keep going. It's usually in the context of like running. But again that's my very narrow experience with it.
I think it has that vibe.
You know what it is too. It's the absence of lyrics. I think help you focus too, and you really are kind of like focusing on the rhythm and the tempo and and you know, the various instruments coming together, and it could propel you to like, you know, lift or run or whatever. I find that it like, Yeah, it's effect of like just keeping you motivated and kind of tuned into your body.
Also got you what other classics are you spinning someone? If you're putting together a workout playlist, who also show.
It up classical workout?
I really like a Tchaikovski Yeah you like it?
So you like the aggressive ones? Yeah? Yeah, you know Divorce Shocks, New World Symphony, You're like, okay, they're bangers.
Yeah, you know some Vivaldi.
Love Vivaldi, love the Love the Four Seasons, you know what I mean.
I might recommend Maurice Ravel's Ballero as a good warm.
Up tracks from my classical music nerds out here. I used to play in a youth orchestra, so I was all I was all about the classical music back in the day. Okay, but you said lyrics distract you. So who's an artist you can't listen to or else you're gonna just be just completely singing along or completely distracted by the lyrics.
That's a great question. Okay, Okay, I'll just reveal it.
I'm just gonna say so, I've gotten really into also the Venga Boys. I'm back to that like nineties, early two thousands, like you know, electro whatever.
Yeah, it's so hard not to sing along and be like.
Yeah, okay, so wait we're like vengel. I'm sorry, I'm a Vengel.
I'm a veng ahead yeah okay, I'm with my Kindred Spirits.
Yeah yeah yeah. Where were they from? Like they were like from all over, weren't they? Are they really Dutch or something? I feel like the most to European. Yeah, because of the era when like every like nobody was from America back then, like all that electronic music was either coming from like Sweden or Germany or you know.
Euro dance group like yeah, Okay, they're Dutch. Okay, also d Penn and Dennis vander Dreichen, they're very touch all right.
Yeah, wait, what was that last thing said?
I said, I did live in Holland for a little bit, and I don't see that much Dutch.
Okay, Yeah, there we go. Let's go, let's go. That's it. That's all like I thought for this one. Okay, let's take a quick break and just figure out what's going out with Joe going on with Joe Brandon's now Joe Brandon's wall. I guess we will figure that out when we come back after this. And we're back and we just found out Simone a bit of a bit of a Dutch passport. Hold her just a bit, you know, love to see it, Love to see it. It's an international show at the
end of the day. But speaking of foreign relations, we should talk about our president. Our president is Joe Biden. So we just found out that the Biden administration will be continuing to build around twenty miles of border wall in Texas quote in an effort to stop rising levels of immigration. And you know this is this is using
the funding that was secured by the Trump administration. So that's a bit of like the defense right now from the like from Biden is like, I mean, this was all these funds were already appropriated, so you know what I mean when I tried to do something. But also I need I also need to be painted as someone that's tough on immigration, so I'm just gonna go ahead
and let this thing happen. And also like using the presidential powers and homeland security powers to waive federal laws that otherwise would have prohibited the project, including the Clean Air Act and Safe Drinking Water Act. A lot of environmentalists I'm talking about, like again, even since the beginning of the construction, they're like, you can't just put an impermeable barrier in the middle of an ecosystem, like it
fucks things up. But that's where we are. And it's all kind of odd because if you remember, at the very beginning of the presidency, he said there would be quote not another foot of border wall built if he was elected. He was elected, and then his administration like proclaimed like like I think on like week one that the border wall quote is not a serious policy solution, which is true, just to build a wall in your you know, xenophobia like statue not the best way to
I think figure out how to deal with immigration. In response to that, now Trump is doing a fucking victory lap and he's saying, like, well, Joe Biden apologized to me in America for taking so long to get moving and allowing our country to be flooded with fifteen million blah blah blah blah blah. He said, I will await his apologies. Okay, I don't think they are coming. But the thing is, if we look closer, Biden actually never
stopped building the border wall. And you know, in twenty twenty two, he authorized the border Patrol to close gaps in the wall in Arizona. This was supposedly done under the rationale of like, this is for safety reasons because a child tragically like drowned trying to get into the country. But many experts have said this is not, Like the logic is fucking absurd here, like that's you're gonna do?
This is like a man in miles Trefagan said that basically, quote, people have traveled halfway around the globe on planes, trains, and automobiles, so to expect that closing four small gaps is going to make them turn around and book a return flight is sheer fallacy. And that's kind of sort
of where we are at. And many people, I think there's a lot of fingers being pointed is just because he has an eye on the election and doesn't want to give the Republicans or more conservative Democrats AMMO to say, like he's not treating this thing seriously. But many people have said that money would have been better spent in many other places rather than just continuing to build the wall.
So, yeah, six thousand frustrations. The argument that like, oh, if I don't seem tough, then they'll be mad or say so they can say stuff anybody.
It doesn't matter. This will not help you at all. Yeah, you're not gonna win that more wile.
Yeah, no, this isn't a supportive It literally does nothing for you. Also, the excuse of the money's already spent to keep the money in stop building the wall, what does it matter, Like, yeah, somebody's already out there and you have already mentioned that it's a policy that doesn't work. I don't understand being like, well, we paid them, so they have to do it.
Just move forward. If yeah, it feels like a thing where like Republicans, Like if the shoe were on the other foot, they'd be like, we're not using that money to like do woke shit. Sorry, we'll just completely go around those kinds of regulations. I mean the way it
was though to I mean his credit. He was saying before when there was an appropriations bill where that money where Congress could have actually redirected it, it was like, y'all should redirect it, but the Republicans are in control, so that shit wasn't happening. But I feel like there may have been other opportunities to do this, so it again, it feels very politiicy, but also giving people who are like who have like strong feelings about immigration and like
amnesty and you know, having humane immigration policies. Just it's a bit of a kick in the face when you you know, you ride in be like not another fucking foot except for these next couple of months that we got to build to really tighten this thing up. Because also, I mean, let's be real, like Biden was never someone who was super in on like really flexible immigration, so it all kind of fits hand in hand. But a shock to many people on the internet, like he's still building it.
It's like, well, that's the interesting part.
You know.
I'm not a political analyst or anything, but I'm like, to me, it seems like, well, you know, to me, it seems like it's going to alienate more people than it is actually going to like, you know, I don't know, attract anyone to his side. And it's like, so, I don't know. So I understand that maybe they see it as a political strategy to like, you know, loop in a new sector of voters, but I don't know, it just seems right, he's shooting himself on the foot.
When you like look at like the math of the electorate. You got to know, anyone who's savvy's like, you're not winning over maga people everything. It's just not happening. So why why worry about their screams and flapping about about it? Like it doesn't make sense when there are a lot of people who were interested in like because like, like, you know, there's so many ways to address this, Like one is to address the factors or forces that are
pushing people out of their countries to begin with. And you know, a lot of the time, for all the talk that people say, like oh, like what's going on in South America. It's like, well, American foreign policy happened to South America in the seventies and eighty, Like, that's that's a huge that's a huge contributing factor that they turn a blind eye to or not figuring out ways
to stabilize situations in other places. So I think it's it's just a it's just a weird one, like to your point, where more people are gonna be like why
like why do all this shit? Like case in point, right like here in California, there is probably like one of the most sort of famous sort of border crossing areas, which is like known as like you know, Friendship Park that's right here, like at the San Diego border crossing and right now, Uh, the administration is basically going to fully like make this thing completely like just completely do away with the old fence that was there for something a little bit more like more hostile to people and
a lot and many people are arguing like that was sort of kind of like a monument to like the bond between US and Mexico because family members from other sides could like can meet each other there even though they couldn't physically be on the same side, they could still like reach through and touch each other, et cetera. And to now be like we need to we need to tighten that thing up and also get rid of the park that's on the US side. It's just feels
like extra to for the sake of doing it. And I think to your point, like a lot of people would look at that and be like, that's not what we're looking for or even what we believe is going to help us be safer or quote unquote more humane or whatever the deal is here.
So it's also I'm saying to use the death of a child as an excuse to be like, well, now we have to because a child, how many children have passed trying to make this journey a different right, it's in the journey, like it's the really difficult, especially coming from beyond Central America. You had to go through an entire forest, across the river, like, through several countries, Like it's not simple. There's obviously a reason people are trying
to get here in the first place. Into your earlier point miles like, I just don't understand why we don't spend money trying to find a more permanent solution to how many folks as opposed to being like build a wall that we already know definitely doesn't work.
I mean, this is something we've talked about a lot. Is you know, if if if the solution doesn't isn't a money making operation, it's not going to be pursued. Well capitalism. Yeah, that's like we can hire more engineering companies to dig up walls and build new wall, or have more privatized you know, prisons basically for children that are seeking to enter the country for whatever reason, and so those are things that can actually keep money going
rather than sort of like the more humane things. You're like, well, why, like even in our own country, we're like, what, why can't we just have better healthcare that's like less expensive. It's like, well, then people start making less money on it. They got a lot of lobbying efforts behind it. It's it's a whole thing. So, yeah, it is. It is really frustrating, especially when again, like the rationale there is so backwards. It's like, oh, how terrible. So that just
means we got to build more wall. That's the problem. But we shall see looking at the other side of the aisle. I'm sorry to have to bring up the fucking speaker of the House controversy again, but shit is getting like weird and salacious now, so Matt gets basically acted as like a one man wrecking crew to destroy the already destroyed speak former Speaker Kevin McCarthy, who, as we all know, is a vile character that, as I said earlier this week, is lower than snake nipples, So
he didn't deserve to be saved from his position. The GOP is in fucking disarray even more than usual somehow, and many of like the rank and file members are so pissed at Matt Gates and they just like they're like, just it doesn't make sense that one guy could derail everything for the entire party. I'm like, I'm sorry, what about Trump or what? Okay? So I thought you guys
were in love with one men wrecking cruise. So this has led to look from you know, some onlookers perspectives the beginnings of maybe a plot to oust Matt Gates from the House, because there were a lot of sound bites on the heels of McCarthy's ouster that was stuff like people saying like Matt Gates, like he's not one of us, Like that's not what we were supposed to do. We need unity. That was like beyond the pale, or you know, like he shouldn't be associated with this party,
he needs to be an independent. A detail actually from the session of Congress there when like they took the vote on getting McCarthy out, was that Matt Gates actually spoke on the left side of the chamber, the minority side of the chamber, of the Democrats side of the chamber because the Republicans are like, can't sit here. They basically just were like, you go do your thing over there. It was Forrest Gump on the bus, you know what I mean, seats taking that's all it was, you cannot
be here. So like you could kind of already see them beginning to turn their back on him or whatever they thought they were doing. And so now like we're starting to see like just weird comments come out of the right. So I just want to put our attention, unfortunately on Senator Mark Wayne Mullen, who had this really weird thing to say to Manu Raju on CNN about like like why this guy is kind of a bad guy. Here's here's why he thinks, you know, Matt Gates bad.
I'm scared.
It's something you.
Got about this guy. This is a guy that didn't have the media didn't give a time a day too after he was accused of sleeping with an underage girl. There's a reason why no one in the conference came up.
So I'm sorry your own party didn't do anything about it when he found that out or the allegations came out, or found out that he was under investigator. But anyway, go off, go off King.
Because we had all seen the videos he was showing on the house floor that all of us had walked away of the girls that he had slept with. He'd brag about how he would crush ed medicine and and and chase it with with an energy drink so he could go all night. This is obviously before you got married. And so when accusation came out, no one definditing, and then no one on the media would give him the
time of the day. All of a sudden he found fame because he opposed the speaker of the house back in November, and he's always stayed there and he's not he was never going to leave until he got this last moment of fame by saying by by going after Ugh.
But he was confused about what's happening in the streets.
The kids were really.
Excited when he posted this speaker and now he's all kinds of thing.
Yeah, I mean wow, crushing ed pills, chasing it with energy drinks to go at it all night. Obviously before he was married, because all.
Of that, and you would definitely stop once.
But it's funny, but it is true. Senator. We did hear about these loot images that he was sharing with people, and people, fuck's wrong with him? And we did. There were even reports of how this dude had like empty boxes of condoms like at the top of his trash can, and people were like, Yo, what the fuck is going
on with this dude. So this doesn't seem too far off, especially when you remember a former congress person, Madison Cawthorne from North Carolina, if like last year he said this thing, he was like, you know, the Congress is just really weird.
He's like, I've been invited to like orgies at houses and like people are doing cocaine and if you recalled, that was the beginning of the end for him when he said that, when he mentioned that there was like orgs and cocaine use and they basically vaporized his shit like instantly the party like they had his ass out on a like they ran him out on a rail
real quick. So who knows where this leads for Matt Gates, But like all we do know is that like this dysfunction in the House, especially without having a speaker and like having the business of Congress sort of grind to a halt, is exactly the kind of shit that Steve Bannon and these other hyper right wing like ghouls pray for, because it's all, you know, it's all part of the acceleration of like ending the Fed, like the state the federal government to usher in like a more dysfunctional era
of you know, total privatization. So you know there's a lot, there's a lot going on there. But yeah, I'm not sure what exactly why Mark Wayne Mullen was wanting to talk about is like ed pill I don't.
Know again, And to think that is he presenting this information as like if you thought being with underage girls was bad, this guy you can't even get hard without help.
Like I'm not even sure like what he's supposed to say. It's like is he saying he's like, oh, this man has ed or this guy is a sex monster or something. But I think he.
Was just playing the SEO game. He was like, people probably don't remember. If I mention it now, maybe we can increase some Google searches on Math's history. Then it's back in the zeitgeist, and I can, you know, work with that as we try to oust him. It is strange to me the way Republicans there's just such a this idea of like, now you've you've betrayed the party, and so now we have to everything we hand to
get you out. And it's like you should have wanted this guy out forever, like he has been such a bad like player for your side, not helped you in any way, shape or form. It's strange that like it's now. And but also I'm a little bit like I would love to just never hear from Matt Gates again. It'd be really great. So I feel I'm torn. I'm a little bit excited and a little bit perplexed.
I mean, fun fact about him, he grew up in the house from the Truman Show shut Out. His parents own that house from like the Truman Show.
There are so many details to his story that I'm having a hard time reconcile.
Yeah, I'm sorry that I had to. Like, whenever I hear that, I'm like, what it's like, Yeah, that house like with the exteriors for the Truman Show, that's Matt Gates's childhood home.
So I don't know what that means, but I feel like it means something.
I wonder. It feels like a thing where like when he saw the movie, he was like, oh shit, what if that's me? What if Truman? What if everything's for me and I can do no wrong? Like I mean a lot of people have that sort of main character complex. So who knows, who knows, who knows? But anyway, this is what is going on right now while there are real serious issues to talk about in this country, like
cause the living housing crisis, the unhoused. But but Matt Gates has taking boner pills and that's gonna take up all the oxygen right now. All right, let's take another break and we'll be back to talk about something sweet literally after this. And we're back, and it's that time of year again, listeners. Each year, candystore dot Com drops on the masses their map of what they say is the most popular Halloween candy in each state aka the
true geographic measure of America's soul. As our writer Jam McNab points out, some states haven't changed much. Okay, Montana, they still love twigs. Left twigs or right twigs. I don't know, but but they still love twigs. Michigan all about the starbursts. Illinois always about sour Patch kids. You're from Illinois, Joelle, can you corroborate it's sour patch kids, are you? Or it's your feeling towards Sara patcha.
The children loved the gummies. I'm not a gummy kid because it feels weird. I can't do it. But like I remember Swedish fish being so huge when I was a kid. They love the sour patches. Sour like when I played softball, This is a sour thing on the stick, or its just sugar, but it's kind of soury.
Oh funny. Yes, we just took like that like chalky tableat that. I'm sorry, Like what were some of those candies about back then? Just more sugar into you faster, I know, but they were really like take this piece of school chalk and dip it in this like high fructose cornser of powder and you're good.
Kids love an interactive piece of candy. Okay, the ring pops were huge. Love pop.
What was the like the bubble tape that you could like, oh yeah tape, Yeah, something like that where you could eat like sixteen feet of gum and then like choke yourself. Was I remember almost choking a soa bad. My mom never let me buy it, buy it again because I've put like a tennis ball sized a gum in my mouth. Same with Big League Chew that was meant to look
like chewing tobacco. But anyway, that's where we're at. So okay, we found out earlier Simone, when you're not in Europe or was hanging out on Holland you were spending some time in California. Mm hm our our our steak candy? They say, is it's always been Skittles and I can't. I'm like, fine, I feel like everyone hands out skittles, but that's the one like I eat at the end, like when I ran out of all the chocolate stuff, because that's I'm chocolate all day. That's the only thing
that registers to my brain. Are you what do you feel like? How skittles?
Uh?
For the record, Fine, I guess, but it's it is a little disappointing to like.
Be represented by Skittles. I was hoping for a chocolate based candy as well.
Yeah or okay, so now I'm starting to see a Skittles logo in Oklahoma. Maybe it means ours is Eminem's.
Oh no, I mean, I'm saying that's sadder somehow chocolate.
The plain ones are. Okay, I hear what you're saying.
Have you ever had you ever do that thing when you're a kid and you find your old Halloween candy from like four years earlier? You know what I mean? Did you did y'all ever have like? Okay, so full? I had a like a lego case that I was stashed on my candy and because my mom or my parents were like, come up off of that, you know, you're not getting all of it copper, So I had it like in a like a Cayman Islands account basically
in the back of my closet. And I remember almost breaking my teeth and like on a on like old Eminem's. And it was the most like fucked up experience of my childhood. I remember like and when I mouth no, they were not they were melting my teeth. Oh no, anyway, that's that's neither here nor there. But over states, we're seeing some some changes. Okay. In the overall list of most popular Halloween candies, M and MS are hot on the heels of the number one rated Reese's cups. I'm with this.
You know why Reese's changed their chocolate. It's not as tasty.
It isn't no, if you eat reesis now.
Like the chocolate has like almost a pully texture to it, which is not.
Like.
I mean, it's literally like, instead of being melty, it feels more like tappy almost. It's not that thick, but it doesn't. The texture is wrong. It's the only way I can say. I think it's probably because they're using more corn syrup as opposed to like sugar. But if you get a reesis like in Europe, it's a completely different experience.
They're so delicious, what so good? If they I'm sorry the government needs to step in because they should be and they should be announcing this over a FEMA broadcast. They are changing the fucking chocolate in a Reese's Peanut butter cup. I'm trying to think of the last time I had one I mean I had, I had like the big cup that have potato chips in it recently, okay, and maybe I was just distracted by all the fucking potato chips in it that I didn't realize that the chocolate formula had changed.
And get a plane like just a regular resis not one of the big ones, but just the and you'll immediately be like, this isn't right. This is it's not good as Justin says, it's plastic, it's not right.
American Empire is falling. I know, it's prooved.
This is this is all I needed, This is all I needed. Now I'm all in. We are rom and it's bread circuses, fucking affirmations and Starbucks trying to keep our mental health right so we don't start a revolution. And now you're fucking with the Reese's peanut coat. Oh my gosh, terrible. Other thing is number three on the list, which had a lot of people scratching their heads hot to Molly's unhinged.
Right, I don't get that one.
So okay, So what people are saying, like, because many people are looking at this list and be like, okay, well here here might be the deal with why hot Tomllies went to the three spot is because hot tomalies apparently are less available like out in the world at your traditional purveyors of candy. So it's basically inspiring more online orders, which is what candystore dot com is seeing, because there's a subset of people who are like, I can't get my hot to Molly's. Okay, all right, are
they sinned? I've never even had one because they look violent to me as a child, like, I'm like, I'm not getting red pilled off this ship literally a me on red pill shape?
Did you big red gum?
Yes?
Yeah, that's kind of what it tastes like. Mm hmm, that kind of like spicy cinnamony.
Yeah, your tongue taste that long lasting freshness with big red. I did not jingle. Oh yeah, a little bit. I'm a bit older, you know, then I let people know. But I remember the big red chewing commercials and even the Ford logan slogan that was like, have you driven a Ford? You remember that one?
No?
Okay, all right, well, allow me to show you my jeggings collection later impress you and blow the wheels off of this thing. But here's the thing that I cannot abide candy corn at number eight. I'm sorry, that's that's my that's my always on Halloween. Hot takee. Just there, can't do, can't do candy corn?
You throw them out. I don't understand the point of them. I don't understand whoever could possibly have a craving for a candy corn. I would rather eat styrofoam covered in sugar than a candy corn.
Wow, simone words.
Man, I feel not safe coming out with this now. But I like a candy horn. Actually, I actually like sugary wax turns out.
So what is the flavor of candy corn? Like vague vanilla?
It's like vanilla butter.
It's like have you ever had a popcorn flavored jelly belly bean? Okay, well, I know you will not silence me. I like shitty candy.
Wait do you also like necho wafers?
Okay, don't insult me.
Okay, Well, I'm trying to see where the spectrum is.
Here, because looks like a different category of thing altogether.
Wow, what do you call a neck?
Well?
What what is an echo wafer?
To you?
Isn't that like a cookie?
No, it's like a It's like a like a chalk disc.
Oh those things. Oh yeah, that's like those are pretty bad. Yeah, that's like flattened out.
Yeah, it's tom with no like value.
Yeah, I got no.
Active ingredients.
I can't settle my stomach with this ship. We're gonna upset my brain. Yeah. Wait. So you like the flavor of artificial jelly bean popcorn and that's kind of where we're at.
Yeah, it's it's a weird butter like which I'm not pitching it in a way that's sounding enticing at all. It's like waxy sweet butter, right, you know.
But but yeah yeah, yeah, Like I found all that like a butter, and I rolled it in some sugar and took a bagel bite out of it.
Call out Missouri, Yeah, pain smooth Missouri. And the Almond Joy. There's no joy in Missouri. There's no happiness there that you have to Almond Joys also.
An anti almond Joy podcast.
Don't look here's the thing.
I can't do it all like a dry coconut.
Well there's not even it's so chok full of like palm oil, you know what I mean. And sometimes I feel like a nut and sometimes I don't. Almond Joy has nuts mounds don't. But I funk with an almond Joy. Not like I'm not seeking it out, but I'm never mad am. I disgusting and now the disgusting ones.
Okay, can I say something crazy?
Please join me.
I would go for an almond Joy before I went for a Snickers. WHOA.
Well, thank you so much, Simon and for coming on the show. It's been great having you. I would ask you where people can find you, but I don't want to upset them more with your musings. Just how you're burning bridges over No, I mean look to eat their own. Okay, So okay, where do you rank butterfingers? What's at the top, Like, let me figure out. I'm trying to find your mass laws hierarchy of candy.
Needs, so at the top, I'll bring one that's not even on in this infographic here.
I love it.
Take five like a peanut butter pretzelt Yeah, salty sweet.
Okay, it sounds Oh it's really good, so good. Yeah. Yeah, it's also a reesis it's a Reese's product.
Yeah, okay, okay, butterfinger is like pretty close to dead Last for me because I it's the texture, the teeth, like the it gets stuck.
Yeah, I don't like that.
I'm the same way, like get to sensory stuff, you know, Yeah, it gets stuck in the crevice. I feel like you need a toothpick to eat a butterfing or like are the or are like the cavities I mean like the you know the shape of my teeth, not all the cavities that I have that my dentist keeps telling me how if you get sorted out, like it gets in there to a point that is very annoying. Okay, so that's dead last, so take let's keep it to this. Okay,
So Snickers you got, I'm enjoyed over Snickers? Where's Skittles in relation to Snickers? Or I'm enjoyed.
Below below below? Because I still press friends chocolate?
Okay, Twigs twist.
Is pretty high, twixes twixes above almond joy but.
Caramel, I think? So is it above Snickers? Yeah? Oh yeah, okay, so okay? And then what about milky way hmm bad?
I don't do not enjoy but better than butterfinger.
Finger beneath her below Snickers below Snickers below Snickers? Okay, what about three Musketeers?
Oh?
Isn't is that different from Milky Way.
Yeah, this is Nugat. Three Musketeers is chocolate and nut period.
Nugat is feels very vintage.
Where's the Milky Way?
I think has what caramel in it?
Yeah?
Okay, hmm, but I'm gonna put that below Milky Way, maybe below Butterfinger even well, think I funk with Nugat?
Okay? What about what about the Hershey's Mini Bar pack, Mister Goodbar, Hershey's Dark Chocolate Crackle, et cetera. Nestley Crunch, although that is a completely different family. Where do you put okay, Nestleie Crunch? Where do you put Neslie Crunch?
Nestlie Crunch? I kind of like I'll put it. I'll put it around the Snickers tier.
Yeah, okay, okay, okay, I'm so far, so far, We're okay. I would say, so, you know what, You're back on the show, and I really thank you for that. Joel. What's that that? What's at the top of your candy mountain?
It used to be now it's Peanut Eminem's. They're my favorite candy because they go and popcorn and that's perfect. You throw a bag Peanut Eminem's into a popcorn at your movie Andrew, Good to go. You got protein and popcorn to absolutely listen. My grandmother used to be like, it's fine, you have shubery ice because now we had strawberries and dairy, so we're good. This is the kind people I come from.
I just saw the Association of American Pediatrics just say that that is the most balanced meal that you could give child. So tell your children.
I'm sorry. If your kids are listening, you will never hear the end of it.
Now, hey, tell your parents the American Association of Pediatrics. I think I just made that name up, but go ahead.
When I was a kid, I love Snickers was definitely my top can. It's the combination of chocolate nuts. But now that I'm an adult, oh gosh, somebody helped me.
It's like, now that I'm an adult, I love. Now that i'm an.
Adult, god to because you can't afford it when you're a child. It's the chocolate that's got like hazel nuts in it, and they're like whole hazel nuts. And it comes in a square.
Oh, kinder Bueno.
It's like a kinder Bueno, but not they sell it Trader Joe's.
Oh my god, it comes like individually wrapped.
Yeah.
Yeah, it's like a candy bar, but in the form of a square.
The Internet, I know, I know listeners are fucking screaming at us right now. It sport, Yeah, the Rider, Sport.
Whole hazel nut milk, chocolate candy.
This is where this is where you're showing your I'm an adult now because we're going now, we're going abroad. We're going abroad for our fucking chocolates, which I mean, let's be real, like their chocolates are Have you ever had a milka?
No? No?
But they look so good. It's like if you can get into uh, the Japanese kit cats. That stuff was my boing. I was like, why are we not doing it here?
It's so tasty? Yeah? Did you know I've I read something that like Japanese candy companies started introducing more candy flavored candy to help the sale of of or no, I'm sorry, coffee flavored candy to help sales of coffee, like to sort of indoctrinate kids with the coffee flavor at a young age so when they grow up they're like, guess what off of with coffee?
Now?
Is that evil?
Or g Yeah? Baby, it's the world we live in. Milk shout out Milka. If you can get the oriole milk, my look for it, like they there's I see them around La now and I'm guessing simone, I saw you have a reaction to Milco. So I think we're back on this.
Oh yeah, we are teaming.
Good good to know, good to know. Well, let's let's just wrap this up for somebody who things aren't so sweet for right now, and that's Drew barrymore So, you know, the lady who said, I'm just trying to do what I do, which is to heal people by bringing my show back, because that's what the people are asking for.
We found out that she's coming back to the Airwave soon, but without it's writers and not because it's there that you know, there's obviously the strike has been resolved because uh, now that the strike is over and the show is coming back, the writers have quote declined an offer to return with it, which makes a lot of sense because she really went out here being like, yeah, I'm gonna do this ship with the writers. And guess who was leading the strike outside your studio or the picket lines
outside your studio, your your own fucking writers verymore so. Yeah, this is now like because it was really a bad look because even the writers they said that they didn't even know what was going on, Like they found out about Drew's decision, like through fucking Twitter basically, yike. So you know, communication, communication is key. But right now they are interviewing potential new writers. So we'll see, we'll see
what happens there. But I just wanted to wrap, just come back to that story because we were focused on it a lot. I like to I like to see the the kind of shit we're like, oh you thought we forgot, like they were never gonna come back and be like, oh, yeah, you good Drew. The last you think.
About, what a huge sacrifice They've been out of worked for five months. Yeah, and now they're turning down a gig that's probably you know, Drew was like pretty consistently on air, not a lot of breaks. I imagine it's pretty good money, yeah, or at least decent enough to like get your bills and paying. Most people have run out of savings. It is a huge sacrifice for these writers to be like, I'm not going back because the
disrespect was so large. I really hope you're able to find work soon, especially because apparently we're just not going to cover our writers with unemployment, which sucks, is really frustrating. Yeah, I hope this is a listen to Drew and the rest of I don't know the world. Don't piss off a union, especially not one as well organized and together as a people.
Who are who are literally their profession is about communicating, like.
Communicating, organizing and giving great speeches. It's pretty much all writers do. I have no idea why you would go up against them.
Yeah, yeah, you hate to see it. You hate to see it. Look y'all, just read the room, you know what I mean. It's a hot labor everything right now. Labors so in. That's why we always are like imploring like the Democrats to be like, hey, try and hook your wagon to this shit called worker rights, because guess what a lot most people, you know, they're more workers
than the fucking people that donate to your campaigns. Some quick back of the Napka math on that one, but simple stuff, you know, shout out to citizens United, because corporations are people too, all right, Well, simone, it has been to be honest, up and down and up sky high again. Disappearance and we're so glad that you joined us. Where can people check you out? And I know you have a substack, like where can people read you all.
That kind of Yes, I'll give you the full so you can find me on social media. I'm on Instagram at Simone Palanin. You can listen to.
My podcasts Past Perfect, the Time Traveling Trivia show and then Not Past It, which is a This Week in History show on Spotify. And I write a substack. I give recommendations for movies, TV music all that. It is called highbrow lowbrow. Find it at higbrolobrow dot substack dot com.
Dope title simone dope title. Hey, And is there a work of media, social media, anything like that that you want to shout out that you've even enjoyed?
Yes, okay, I really need people to watch.
You are so not invited to my bot mitzvah oh on Netflix, The Adam Sandler Family Affair, Sonny Sandler is a star. Sometimes Nepo babies really are incredible, And it's for me. It's like it was a perfect, beautiful, painful, emotional moving story of girlhood and coming of age and friendship, and it like so exceeded my expectations.
I had time watching it.
It was like it had like it felt you know, how do you see blockers?
Oh yes, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Back Like blockers felt like a departure from the usual like teen movie. We're like, oh, they're getting into some interesting shit now, and they're doing it in a really funny way. That's how I like. This felt like the middle school version of that where I was like, holy shit, like this is fucking like this felt real as somebody who was in middle school a one point, but I was like, this is fucking really well done, I got to say. I was also pleasantly surprised. Sure, Joelle, thank
you so much again for joining me. Where do the people find you or follow you? And what can you put us onto in the form of media or tweets?
Here we go.
Okay, so I'm Joel Monique. You can find me all over the internet at Joe Monique. It's j O E L E M O and IQ you E. I just filmed my movie Dinner this past weekend. We're gonna be going out to some festivals in twenty twenty four, so you can follow me and look for possible screenings. I would love to see your face around.
We're very excited.
It's gonna be amazing social things you should check out. Okay, there is a woman named Marty Pants m A R d I p A n TZ. She transitioned in like nineteen seventy four when she was fifteen, and she is documenting the history of what it was like to transition back then, what it's like to be an elder trans person who lost most of their trans friends. She talks to Zeniels about their current transitioning and what that's like.
It has been so informative and like, we just don't have a lot of history on like what was it like to be trans three nineteen eighty And she's doing the Lord's work. They're getting into a lot of the details, which is great. Also, I'm obsessed with the sims. I'm playing a lot of sims. I've been building houses, I've been I have multiple families.
They're all adorable.
There's more lesbians for Kapa in my game than there will ever be in the world, and I'm just really enjoying being a part of the fandom. So if you follow the sims, you can see they're building. They're doing a Norwegian limited style or what do they call that? Yeah, yeah, like that clean Scandinavian style. You know what's up. So
they just added a new pack. So if you're out there and you do the SIMS and you build pretty houses and you want to pay me on any of my socials and show them to me, I like to look at your dope houses.
Yeah, that was my favorite part about the SIMS. Like, I remember playing that shit am I brokeus in college and I was like, this is where I live. Yep, yep, yep.
Every day I'm like, man.
Yeah, watch me update this TV with one click boom boom.
They have entire like Los Angeles like get famous pack that has like an actual valley, a hills in a downtown area. I want to tell you. I'm like, this is my mansion in the hills. If I could afford house in the valley, this is what it would look like.
Yeah.
Yeah, they have three lots the valley. Yeah.
Oh no, just when I think I'm out, get it, Damn. That's all I need to hear. I'm so so valley centric anyway. Yeah, find me at Miles of Gray wherever they got the ats. You can find me on you know, Twitter formerly x Instagram threads all that, and also check me out on our basketball podcast, Miles and Jack Got
Mad Boosties. I have a true crime show about the Greek robin Hood, the Search for the Greek robin Hood, the man who is kidnapping millionaires and giving the money away to the folks out there without hurting anybody and trying to do it ethically. It's called The Good Thiefs. So check that out, and then if you're like ninety day Fiance, like most highbrow consumers of media are like me, check me out on my other podcast for twenty Day Fiance.
I'll let you guess what that shows like. Now, a tweet I like is from your Doye former guest at your Dooye underscore tweeted affirmation and brackets. I am a hater and I am also correct. We need that. I love that kind of affirmation, and I am also correct. You can find us at daily zeit guyst on Twitter, at the Daily Geist on Instagram, got a Facebook fan page,
website daily zeitgeist dot com. Worry post our episodes in our footnotes foot notes Thank you, Joelle, where you can find all the articles we talk about, as well as the song we ride out on that song. We are going to ride off into the proverbial sunset of our weekend by this track by this duo called Ermanos Putierez and the track is called which means close to you, and it is this. They're like, they're they're guitar playing. I gotta call guitar playing because it ain't guitar. It's
they're picking some guitar on this. And Joelle, you heard me playing it before we started recording, and I said the same thing. This shit makes me feel like I'm smoking weed on like a rainbow colored horse riding through the technicolored desert. And it's just like great, like chill background music. You know, have a you know, a coffee, a smoke, a wine or whatever you want to do to it. Okay, ed Mino Scutiettis, that's gonna do it
for us. We're gonna be back Monday with the Trending episode where we tell you what happened over the weekend as well as you know, some more hits coming your way. So I hope you all have a great weekend. We'll talk to you soon. Bye. Mas.