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It's Trendy To Rock A Zeit 4/25: University Protests, SCOTUS, Harvey Weinstein, Thermonator, 'Atlas'

Apr 25, 202424 min
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In this edition of It's Trendy To Rock A Zeit, Jack and Miles discuss the widespread pro-Palestine university protests, SCOTUS's arguments in Trump's immunity case, Harvey Weinstein's NY conviction getting overturned, that flamethrower-equipped robot dog, the new J.Lo movie 'Atlas' (basically 'I, Robot'… but with AI tho) and much more!

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Speaker 1

Hello the Internet, and welcome to this episode of It's Trendy two site Guys to guys tes gus Trendy.

Speaker 2

It's trend.

Speaker 3

Man, Max Are on the discord. Thanks for that one.

Speaker 1

Yeah, Max Are shout out to you. That's a good one. That is a good trending show title. My name is Jack. That is Miles. This is the episode where we tell you what is trending heading into the end of the week. It is Thursday afternoon. Of course, Miles is the fascism, Like there's I've been I've been told, we got we gotta be worried about this fascism. Look at look at this, uh the orange cheeto if he wins can do fascism.

Speaker 3

They're going to stifle your ability to dissent, exercise you're right to free speech. They're going to they're going to arrest journal lists for merely covering what is unfolding in front of them. Came, We're going to become hostile towards intellectuals, professors, students, bar them from entering campus. Yeah, we're talking about the

protests that are kicking off around campuses. I don't know, man, looking at this shit, it's like you're tasing fucking students, your Pepper Spring student journalists for merely being around while the fucking administrations call up the cop goons to come through and clear out encampments or protests. I mean University of Texas, my god, like they really, I mean they it was a bunch of fucking nonsense unfolding and brutalizing

you know, peaceful protesters. Which is wild too because while they did that to try and disperse the protest that was on Wednesday, today Thursday, there are reports that that crowd These are reports I don't know officially, but they're saying that the crowds are up to five times larger today.

Speaker 1

Yeah, because fuck them, you know. Yeah, like that's it's a great way to like, you know, grow a movement of really brave people. Uh and also great way to court the youth vote Biden killing it. Yeah, well done, sir.

Speaker 3

Yeah. And not and really have nothing to say too, I mean, like we're talking about, you know, if you look at what's happening the actual like student protests, they're calling for really simple shit, man. They just want to stop the genocide. They want their schools to divest from anything having to do with Israel. That could potentially profit off of what is happening, uh in Gaza, And yeah,

we're treating the fun. I mean again, you look there's they look like there are more people out there breaking up college protests than there were fucking January sixth.

Speaker 1

Yeah you know what I mean.

Speaker 3

And you get every time.

Speaker 1

January six I'm sorry, yeah, yes, yeah, yeah, no, no, no, no, they're not worried about January sixth. Yeah, this is just working with their money.

Speaker 3

No exactly, They're like, no, no, no, these people are good, like they're they're down to ride for the status quo. These younger people who are they are voicing their absolute displeasure to put it lightly, with what is happening with not only the United States foreign policy, but their university's fiscal policies.

Speaker 1

Yeah, they don't like when you try and get involved in like the fiscal stuff, because that's that's money money.

Speaker 3

Don't fuckle my money. And now like we're.

Speaker 1

Seeing to have fund with like a you know, academic apparatus attached to it exactly.

Speaker 3

But yeah, like we're seeing encampments in Princeton, Cornell, George Washington University u c l A. I mean, there were people were getting arrested at USC yesterday.

Speaker 1

It's it's this.

Speaker 3

Movement is only growing and my god, Joe Biden, you got fucking work to do, fam if you think you're even getting close, and all this fucking fear mongering around what the authoritarianism, it's playing out in just full view of people right now. So stop playing in people's faces and maybe and see, I don't know, I mean, I don't know. I don't know why I'm like do something because I don't know if if the president even has

the appetite for this. But again, I know that staying in office is ultimately what is the you know, the ultimate outcome for politicians. You better figure out how you are going to stay in office because now you're not only are you dealing with people who are just not on campuses, who are absolutely opposed to the foreign policy of this country, but now there's a huge student movement growing and allowing police to brutalize them is not a

fucking winning strategy at all. And like banning fucking apps, I mean, like we're it's just authoritarian creep. Yeah, just creep in on the down low, because it's yeah, it's playing out.

Speaker 1

Meanwhile, on the other side, and I don't feel like it's probably completely disconnected. Right the Supreme to give you the future of the United States right now. Yeah. So on the other side, the Supreme Court heard oral arguments this morning in the case of Trump's presidential immunity, which found his lawyer John Sour doubling down on his previous argument that a president could order the military to assassinate a political rival because that would count as an official act.

Speaker 3

It counts.

Speaker 1

It counts counted from way down. If the president decides that his rival is a corrupt person and he orders the military to assassinate him, is that within his official acts to which he has immunity, asked Supreme Court Justice Swing, is so, Tomower and uh, Sour responded, no, of course, we don't know. I'm sorry, he responded, Uh, that could well be an official act. Yes, yeah, yeah it could. It was just like they just kept being like, wait, so you're you're saying he could like bribe and like

just break all these laws. Yeah, for personal gain.

Speaker 3

Yeah. But what I'm saying is unless Congress impeaches and convicts him, he's safe. Yeah, then it's safe. Then he's safe. It's safety. But yeah, if not, then it doesn't count. Even Amy Coney Barrett was like, okay, but like what if it's revealed after they leave office that they've committed a crime, does that also mean that they get away

with it? And Soara's like, well, I mean, you know, like if if you think about how the framers of the Constitution looked at it, like obviously not every you know, crime is going to it's like the like it's again, it doesn't matter what these arguments are because the whole point of this was just to delay the trial till for his main trial with Jack Smith until after the election. So this is all just fucking puppetry. It's puppet show puppetry.

Speaker 1

It also, I mean, I think reveals where his head is at, where Trump would like things to be. And I do just feel like it probably makes it easier to justify, you know, for Biden to justify his like Nixonian arresting of peaceful anti war protesters when the other guy is like telling the Supreme Court like I could literally like just reiterating what he said to a crowd once and we were like, he's joking. He doesn't think

he could kill someone and get away with it. And now he's like in front of the Supreme Court and his lawyer is like, yeah, no that what Yeah, of course what did you not? Yeah right, he could kill people, the president.

Speaker 3

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Have you not seen that Clin Eastwood film Absolute Power of Course kill people.

Speaker 3

Yeah. It's just like I'm god, yeah that you pick your poison. Man, you got one guy being like I can too sell nuclear secrets and yeah, Like to your point, it's like the juxtaposition of what is going on with Trump allows Biden to be like, well, I'm not telling I didn't tell NYU to call the cops. It's like, yeah, but do you want to, as president show some leadership? Are you? Are you here to just stick up for the voting blocks that you think will get you into office?

Because I'm telling you you do have an opportunity here if you're going to be fully transactional about it. But no, I don't. I don't even know what the fuck that yet. It's just like like what is it going to look? I'm just thinking about like when our kids are older, like what the fuck? What's going to be the norm then? I mean, and our kids can.

Speaker 1

Be so shown there will have been such a backlash that, uh, it's no longer that way, but uh, I think in the middle distance it's going to be pretty bad.

Speaker 3

Yeah, yeah, yeah, And again we're talking we're just we're talking about like we see this all the time, peaceful protests. Whenever they threaten the power of the state or the status quo in this country, it is met with just brutal violence. Yeah. Like luckily, like u c l A. There's an encampment that popped up today. It doesn't seem like the cops are being as heavy handed as they

were at usc and, which is so weird. You wonder like what the fucking universities think is gonna happen, Like you by doing this, you're only creating it's your own. It's just Stephen Monticelli, who's a reporter for the Texas Observer, I think, was just saying, it's like, it's like the fucking streisand effect over here. Man oh man. Yeah.

Speaker 1

And it's they like they have things on their official like on Columbia dot edu where they're like and we do, of course deal with our problematic past, and you know, in the same yeah, you can be extracted down on protesters peaceful like anti war protesters who are obviously on the right side of history, and you know that, but that is long in our past, and they're repeating the exact same locking the gates, yea, locking the gate, like

doing all the same steps they did back then. It's yeah, where when it seems like it would be so much easier to not do those things, But here we are. Yeah, uh so let's uh, let's take a quick break and we'll we'll be right.

Speaker 2

Back and we're back.

Speaker 1

Other good news that people got hit with us morning. Harvey Weinstein's conviction in New York was overturned.

Speaker 2

Goods.

Speaker 1

Yeah, no, I'm saying, like it's fucking all bad out here.

Speaker 3

Everything holy shit, Like it's like the conviction was, like, so, is there going to be a retrial, like a mistrial.

Speaker 1

He can be retrialed, he's not. He can be retried, he's not out of jail. They overturned it on the grounds that, like they claimed the Jude shouldn't have allowed witnesses to other crimes to testify. But you know, a lot of people were pointing out it's very common when establishing like the character of you know, an assailant, this guy trial and yes, exactly.

Speaker 3

This guy stole from me. It's like, well, that's not relevant to this case.

Speaker 1

Where he stole in a very similar way from a very simple position, and the dissenting justice in overturning it was overturned I think three to two. One of the dissenting judges pointed out that this group of appellate judges seems to keep overturning a lot of convictions around sexual violence. So yeah, okay, that's uh, that jumped out of me.

And then it's also just you know, when someone's wealthy enough and can pay their lawyers enough to just keep pushing and keep pushing, they potentually get these things overturned. That's kind of the the greatest bias in or one of the greatest biases in the US justice system. Yeah, well, got enough money to just keep going.

Speaker 3

I'm sure they will try to retry. You'd think they'll attempt to retry him. But I guess what you're saying, because he also he's also been convicted in LA.

Speaker 1

So he's also been convicted in LA. So he's still in jail. That that conviction carries a sentence of over ten years, right, so I think it's in the teens. So, but there will be time.

Speaker 3

But potentially I know that they are saying that, like this could affect their appeal in the LA conviction too.

Speaker 1

It could. Yeah, So I mean it's not it's not good news all around.

Speaker 3

It's really it's that two tiers justice system Trump was talking about screaming about.

Speaker 1

I don't know fare it was again earlier though mainly it's unfair to just Donald Trump. Yeah, all right. There's a lot of images of this flamethrower equipped robot dog going around. I don't know why people seem to be interested in this. It's not that big a deal. It's called a Terminator, the world's first ever flamethrower wielding robot dog, named of course after the American pie character, the Erminator, and it's equipped with Bluetooth connectivity so you can control

it with the smartphone. I look like out of control out there, you know, ye sentient.

Speaker 3

It's it's also not affordable till dollars, so that's an interesting number.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 3

Yeah, this is like so fucking like when I saw it, I was like, Wow, we're fucking It's just all like this country's cooked. Like every day. I'm like, oh we're cooked, man, this fucking we got we got You can buy a Bluetooth enabled fucking killer robot dog.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it's uh, you know, a hot dog can be cooked with this thing. Because they pitched it as a something that you could use to like impress your neighbors at a cookout.

Speaker 3

Yeah, he said, quote, we always had the makers of this throw flame. Yeah, great name. Uh, we always have the people who just want it for fun, impress the neighbors at the barbecue. Another one of the other creators said, quote, most people use it just to show off to their friends, like going out in the open to shoot fire in the air, setting up stuff you want to burn.

Speaker 1

Yeah, go out in the open, that's what That's what was their first thing that responsible flamethrower enthusiasts do is go out in the open and do that thing. And they're just the type of person that this appeals to is also the type of person who's very responsible with fire safety. Oh yeah, anyone.

Speaker 3

Who's responsible fire safety goes, you know what, I need a fucking flamethrower.

Speaker 1

To prove a point.

Speaker 3

Okay, it's responsible flamethrower owners that are getting a fucking bad rap. Those are people who keep their all out loosey goosey attached to a robodog.

Speaker 1

So I think the first question that might appeal to a lot of people.

Speaker 3

Or can I get it now?

Speaker 1

Yeah, is how much? How quickly can I get it?

Speaker 3

Ordered?

Speaker 1

No, the question is like how would that How would something like that be legal? Like if if that thing is coming up your street shooting flame and you kind of look and there's a person just controlling it with their phone behind them, you would think, no, that's this is a bad dream. This can't be legal. It is actually legal legal, And forty eight states just not California and Maryland restrictions around flame throwers and just fun in general.

Speaker 3

Well, California is like, well, you can have a flamethrower that only throws ten ten feet of flame, where this one does like something is like thirty fucking feet or some shit, Like it's fucking horrifying.

Speaker 1

Yeah, it's so counterintuitive that flamethrowers would be illegal that one time Joe Biden was like giving a speech about gun control, and he was like, I mean it's not like you're allowed to own, uh, you can't own an automatic weapon, you're not allowed to own a machine gun, you're not allowed to own a flame thrower. And people are like, actually, you get three Pinocchio's on that because you can own a flamethrower.

Speaker 3

And shit, yeah, I mean, depending on your state you could. You could probably get a fully automatic gun too at a gun show.

Speaker 1

Not a firearm, because a firearm is defined as quote, a weapon that expels a projectile by the action of an explosive, which is not how flamethrowers were.

Speaker 3

Love that loophole, Love that loophole. Love that. Also this thing is also you can fucking you can use napalm with it.

Speaker 1

Yeah, has anyone even.

Speaker 3

Seen like a Vietnam documentary at all?

Speaker 1

Yeah?

Speaker 3

And napalm and how okay whatever, But you can.

Speaker 1

Documentaries coming up right now for some reason, I don't know why.

Speaker 3

Yeah, yeah, are we in a similar time time loop? Maybe will the hippie movement be able to evolve into the yuppie movement because of the financial incentives that are available to that group. I don't know.

Speaker 1

They need to cut us in, that's it. You better not cut us in in, bro, But yeah, I mean Elon Musk had the idea to sell flame throwers as a joke, but then like did it for the lulls and tried to like fuck with restrictions by calling the flame thrower not a flame thrower, even though it's clearly

a flame thrower. Yep, and that that ended in disaster, but not a disaster that like gets publicized very often, right, It's like like one American was thrown in jail in Italy for having a flamethrower in Italy, which where which is a country where flamethrowers are obviously illegal. Guy in

England had his house raided by the cops. More than one thousand purchasers of the not a flamethrower had their devices confiscated by customs officers or local police, and in the US, the flamethrowers were implicated in multiple criminal investigations.

Speaker 3

Oh yeah, this will be fucking weird. Yeah, so remotely deploying. I don't know, this is just something so fucked, Like why are we like this is a fucking killing machine? But or barbecue grill?

Speaker 1

Dude, friend impressing?

Speaker 3

Yeah, cool, cool, cool cool cool, very cool, very cool. I like this. I like flamethrower.

Speaker 1

Dog.

Speaker 3

Everything is very healthy in this country. We're all doing okay. You can buy this for the low price of nine thousand, four hundred twenty dollars truly.

Speaker 1

I can't think of something that would have been more impressive to me as a child.

Speaker 3

Oh my dude, I if I'm fourteen, Yeah, I'm like begging my parents to say I would be like I don't need to go to college. I don't need to go to college. Can I have some of them? If you save any money for college? Can I use that for a flamethrower dog to like, no, motherfucker, get the fuck out of it. I like though that again, like to your point, like the common sense around flamethrowers is like, yeah, that shit can like fuck you up, destroy you is

like that. But that to the point where, like in twenty sixteen, a fucking congressman had to fucking introduce a bill because flamethrowers are so unregulated that the bill was literally called flamethrowers Really Act.

Speaker 1

Yeah, the flame throwers really act.

Speaker 3

That's where we fucking are. Yeah, But again that didn't didn't get too far because I guess we have a right to like literal five arms too.

Speaker 1

Yeah. Also, don't be cute when you're like fighting like a really terrible off, You'll be like, don't be like America is having a normal one with flamethrowers.

Speaker 3

Yeah, look, thank you so much, Congressman Chandler bing, but we could have done with maybe something a little bit more just to the point. But I get it too. It's like probably meant to bring attention because it does feel like one of those things like how the fuck are they still illegal?

Speaker 1

Yeah?

Speaker 3

Yeah, and around we go.

Speaker 1

Well. In better news, there's a new j Lo movie that is coming out this year, and it is a sci fi film called Atlas, which seems like it was created just to make humanity be cool about AI. Yeah, buddy flick, buddy fits. But yeah. So basically there's an evil AI, which no surprise, Ye, Hollywood has a major anti AI bias and they've been uh, you know, giving us evil AI. But this one, uh you know. J Lo's like, I hate that bad AI. I need I need a buddy cop buddy who can help me. They're like,

how about this nice AI. Yeah. So it's like a boilerplate buddy action movie but with AI playing a major role.

Speaker 3

Yeah. I like that. The logline is, quote, a brilliant data analyst with a deep distrust of AI finds it may be her only hope when a mission to capture a renegade robot goes awry m m.

Speaker 1

There you go.

Speaker 3

That's kind of a poem. Actually, yeah, when it finds my apinage to go awrye. Yeah. It also feels like you can also like just swap out, like when a racist cop you would never befriend a minority like is on a mission on a case but realizes they might be the only way for him to capture a renegade person of color or some shit. It's so fucking weird,

and I like that. It's the whole thing is predicated on someone having this like intellectual change of heart around AI when we're in the midst of being like, man, fuck all this shit, stop feeding us algorithmic horse shit. We don't want it. And I think rightly people are pointing out it's like, are you just trying to like soften people up to.

Speaker 1

Be like no, it's like I robot if the robots were also good guys, which I guess they are. I think there's good guy robots and I robot. But it's yeah, or it's like night Rider, you know. I feel like night Rider prepared us for the future where AI are our buddies that we get to like Solf crimes with At least that's what I'm doing in my spare time. I don't know about you guys.

Speaker 3

In Night Rider, was Michael Knight a cop?

Speaker 1

I think he was a drifter. I'm pretty sure that you used the phrase drifter, and but it was like he was like part of some organization that was like, Okay, we're gonna make you, like give you a fake identity, and you're gonna.

Speaker 3

Like go, hell fucking hell, dude, this is so fucked.

Speaker 1

Yeah.

Speaker 3

A billionaire rescues a cop after a near fatal shot to the face, giving him a new identity by plastic surgery and a new name, Michael Knight. Michael to be the primary field agent, the primary program of his public justice organization, the Foundation for Long Government. Flag that's a red flag.

Speaker 1

Yeah, yeah, yeah. I didn't think he was a drifter.

Speaker 3

I don't know. That's more fun that somehow drifter has this like magical sentient car. Yeah, he's like, yeah, I'm solving crimes. I don't know.

Speaker 1

There were other shows that I watched around that time, like Highway to Heaven. Do you remember that show, Michael Landon?

Speaker 2

Yeah, Like they were.

Speaker 1

Essentially just like drifters. It was like hitchhiked on the highway. Yeah, down the town anyways. Uh, those are those are some of the things that are trending. We got this Thursday, April twenty fifth. We are back tomorrow with a whole last episode of the show. Until then, be kind to each other, be kind to yourself, get the vaccine, don't do nothing about white supremacy, and we will talk to you all tomorrow.

Speaker 3

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