Hello the Internet, and welcome to season three on one, episode two of Daily's stay production of iHeartRadio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's shared consciousness. And it is Wednesday, August twenty third, twenty twenty three. Oh yeah, two three two three. Oh. I mean, if you're not seeing the patterns, I don't know what to tell you.
And you should know because it's National Cuban Sangwich Day, National sponge cake Day, National ride the Wind Day, Right the wind? Yeah, yeah, but it shows like a picture of like an old like a Wright Brothers playing, so it might be, yeah, you celebrate.
Is that an extreme sport? Just like flying on extremely old back then?
I think so when it was just people who were like, I'm down to die in a rickety like collection of popsicle sticks and construction paper with a bicycle at the bottom.
You know, yeah, I'm going to become a kite and we'll see how that goes. Shout out to the right brothers, you know, I mean we've said if we've said it once, we've said it a thout. Yes, my name is Jack O'Brien, aka, I know this little fellow named Ronnie grind's teeth like on yea yo. If I ever tell you about Ronnie, you would say he's dropping in the poles because he's unlike a bowl. Unlike a bowl, it's unlike a bowl and so forth, or not built for this, not built
for this courtesy of the cast role Casanova. Yeah, and based on that Ronda Santa's clip where he his eyes go through so much they masked rage, complete inner death and then like sorrow, deep profound generational sorrow. I don't know, man, it's dark. It seems like it's dark in there. Yeah, it is thrilled to be joined as always by my co host, mister Miles Gray.
It's Miles Gray. AKA, look at me. I'm Rony d Lousy with a like a berty. Won't get ahead cause I'm posing near dead.
I can't.
I'm Ronnie D. Shout out Johnny d APIs with that wonderful Greece Sandra d Aka you know what I mean, with the one fucking musical, I really actually do.
Know, yes, the many bangers on that soundtrack.
Are there any black people in Greece? I don't know if there are there black like, I know they might be in the background, but the all I don't I always I always had like a connection with the opening of Greece when it was animated, because there was like a dude with an afro and I was like, yes, yes, representation animated opening, but maybe not there.
Uh well, Miles, we are thrilled to be joined in our third seat my actor host writer who from back in the day on Best Week Ever. That's the first place I saw him, this podcast Go Fact Yourself on the Maximum Fun Network.
It's Jake Keith Fans right up.
I was not informed that there were the musical parodies, but I'm on board for it.
Whatever you want. You know, you got anything.
By the way I thought you were acting. Are there black people in the country of Greece?
Yeah, yeah, definitely answers that question. But I was like, yeah, get in the tweets in the movie. Yes, yes, not elas. Yeah, the country of Greece no, no, no, the film g r e A s.
Yes in that case no. Yeah, it was white in.
The seventies version of the sixties.
Everybody in the fifties looked like they were in their thirties in high school.
It was just like that. That yeah, that mindset. Definitely like we see like Pleasantville also where I feel they're like, I don't know, I think black people were invented, like in the sixties when the civil rights like movement came about.
I don't know, just for this movie, were vented.
Yeah, that's the perception.
That and fantasy movies and literature some.
Things do predate the existence of human beings that have been on this planet since the beginning.
Yeah. Anyways, Jakie, it's been a while. How have you been. I feel like it's it was the last time you were on this show prior to the pandemic.
I believe so. Yes, this is in person, Yeah, in person? Remember remember in person? Remember people?
Yeah, we used to like see each other and hang out in person.
Yeah, there were snacks, there were there were whiteboards.
Yeah, we were just talking reminiscent about how about moon cheese?
That was just believe I discovered moon cheese from being on this show at.
Our studio studios. Snacks, did someone come and remove them?
Like, is there a stash somewhere or are they just still just rotting?
Yeah, I'll still go in the studio every once in a while.
Yeah.
Yeah, and there's there are shows that still recorded the studio it's just we have childcare situations, we have home studios that we've built. We can't be in the same room some of us.
You could cut it with a knife, yeaheah. So we moved on go fact oorself. We just we used to do all live audience shows. Jackie were on one of them, and then yeah, the pandemic times, we uh, we segued to doing all zoom shows and now we're kind of doing a mix. So we're we do about half half and half nice zoom and in person and yeah, you know, disadvantages. Imagine you guys get to talk to a lot of people that you wouldn't get to talk to because they're not in the LA area. Yeah, oh yeah, when you're
not that ambitious. I don't know. We try to do that, No, yeah.
We definitely we go for people who were just like in San Diego. Yeah.
Yeah. We even had someone from Palm Springs on recently that was crazy. Yeah. Yeah, but we are going to get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, a couple of things we're talking about. The Ronan Pharaoh article about Elon Musk has dropped, and Elon Musk is very powerful it turns out outside of it's weird because he's like on such a little power trip as like
the king of his little fifdom on Twitter. But that is not for a lack of power elsewhere in his life, because he can turn off the Internet for the entire Ukraine like fighting force, and has done that multiple times. Yeah, because like Putin hit him up and was like a come on, and they they like Putin is the only person who might be richer than Elon, So I can see how they would vibe with each other. So we'll talk about that article. We'll talk about debate night in America.
The GOP will be debating tonight. Will not feature Donald Trump. He's got something going on, get what it is. So we'll just talk about who to look out for in the debate. There was a New York Times article that raised a red flag about airlines in the United States that had all the all the hallmarks of like a real,
real fucked up situation. Like there's this long section where like the head of the FAA is like, guys, fatalities are basically impossible under us, like we are we virtually this is a quote virtually eliminated the risk of fatalities aboard US commercial airlines, and then contrast that with people like actually doing the work on the ground, and they're like, the staffing shortage is crazy, Like we it's very dangerous out here.
Yeah, so just plain dangerous. And the pun was not even intended there.
No, it wasn't. They're spelled differently.
Executives always know more about what Yeah right, I mean.
Yeah, so we're good here line and it's going up, So tell me over here.
All of that plenty more. But first, Jakeith, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history?
Well, I am now officially middle aged, and therefore I have been watching Colombo. It is an excellent program that I used to make fun of people who watched it, and as such, when I watch it, I end up doing an Internet search for each particular episode or an actor whose name looks familiar, who someone I recognize. So most so, I believe my last four searches I have it here were Colombo, Kiti Sigalh, Colombo, Jose Ferrer, Colombo,
victay Back. All of them appeared in Colombo, and then Colombo Giant Robot, and it turned out they actually used the same Robbie the robot from Lost in Space in an episode of Colombo. So that that's where I am with things, is identifying who was making who are making some of their first show business appearances or last show disappearances in episodes of Colombo.
Yeah.
So it is streaming on Peacock and I cannot recommend it enough.
Yeah, there's there's a lot of I just saw an article I forget like about how like the OC was, like, you know, so many stars passed through the OC on their way to superstardom. But like, you know, a lot of people.
Are on Colombo too, A lot of people on Colombo people later on there. Yeah, that's what's so great is you have some you know, some incredible screen legend. John Cassavettis has an entire episode. He and Peter Falk I learned later were good friends.
Uh.
And then then I saw in the credits Katie Sagal and I was like, what, how could Katie Siagal be in this? I thought, you know, she wasn't a rental married with children, and she had a cameo like I think her second thing she ever did as a secretary in an episode, and it turned out she got the job because her dad directed the episode. So no, it's alive and well in the nineteen seventies.
Wow.
By the way, I was watching the pilot episode and I was like, Wow, this is like it really grabbed me right away. I was like, Wow, those are really good shots. Wow, this is so visually interesting. Wow, look at that. And then the credits come. Directed by Steven Spielberg. Wow, directed the first episode of Colombo, which means probably, which means he probably is still getting residuals.
For writing the Oh yeah, yeah, you directed the pilot.
You're and that's good to hear. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Silberg was Kim Coatrall, Samantha from the from Sex in the City was also in an episode of Colombo. Yeah, I'm trying not.
To look I'm trying not to look ahead because I like being delighted and surprised, you know when you find oh yeah, when you find that like Martin Landau is playing twins and that kind of stuff, wow, like yeah, oh terrible. Yeah. Well, that's the other interesting thing is that they really do have making some good efforts to do visual effects. There are times where like like someone will will stare at someone and then in their sunglasses.
You'll have some sort of projection of what was there, but it won't quite match up, or like they'll they'll try to show something that's on a TV that been whatever. Their nineteen seventies version of Roo. Yeah, yeah wrote it in and you can kind of see the edges. But God love him for trying. Yeah, and they got the robot to type. I mean, come on before.
I think Colombo is also the show that we were talking about during the one of our Writers' strike episodes when we were talking to some TV writers that a lot of like the best TV writing goes back to Colombo. Stephen started it and then like every great TV writer like worked under him, and then like they all came. So it's like this like very linear like family tree of TV writers who like all like one generation to
the next like pass it on to each other. Yeah, and it all like goes back to Colombo basic And then.
To add another real life murder angle is a William Link who was the co creator. His house, which I was in because I think he had some connection to my My college that I went to was where the Menendez brothers killed parents.
He lived there after that. Yeah, yeah, oh wow, So nothing like a fan. You know, guy just the guy just loves murder. Yeah, yeah, just you know, it's a thing. Guy's the murder guy. I'm the I'm the murder guy.
I have a weird guy. What are you gonna do? You know? But I got money.
That's crazy that their of the pilot episode was ragged by Spielberg.
Yeah.
How old was Spielberg.
Happen to be? In his twenties? I mean he was he was still kind of a wonder of under kids.
Start, like in the early seventies, right.
Yeah, I think he had he I think it was like a year or a couple of years before Jaws.
Uh wow.
And oh in the episode, one of the episodes I just watched, they had a character who was a boy genius named Stephen Spelberg. And I'm sure I'm sure that that was like a tip of the cap to him, or you know, trying to make fun of him because he was this, you know, young boy genius.
So somebody, this loser we named our young boy genius character after you.
Good luck with this Shark movie ever?
Yeah? Yeah, what is uh what's something you think is overrated?
Overrated? All right? Uh, this was a little tough for me. But I recently, uh, to some miracle of financing, purchased a cabin and I had a home inspection done and I thought, Okay, great, that's gonna that's gonna cover me for everything. Uh. And it turned out there were several things that he missed.
UH.
And so I'm gonna say home home inspectors are overrated, or at least the one that I was assigned, uh.
Was assigned by the by somebody who had a well okay, Tristan the sale going through.
Okay, maybe I fell for it. I've never I've never gone through the home buying process before. Uh. And this was something that was that was recommended by our by our real estate agent, who allegedly is there to advocate for us, but at the same time she also wants the sale to go through. Yeah. So anyone who's out there looking at a home, maybe get your own home inspector and uh yeah, just like uh, for instance, our the very first day after we closed the refrigerator, I
noticed what was not working. Uh, And I looked in the home inspector report, and the inspector noted, there is a refrigerator that was the extent of his inspection. Like he hadn't bothered to like open open it and touch a can.
Man, this is great. Look at that. You got refrigerator.
Over there, got outlets to plug stuff in.
Okay, okay, he didn't like the outlets, so at least we know that's not the problem with the refrigerator.
Yeah.
Yeah, right, and then and then, uh, there's a small deck that's off the back. And then when we wanted to get it tightened up and fixed up, and so the deck guy came and said, oh, they built that on top of the old balcony. And then look at that. You can see the old balcony joist. And then they just wedged the supports in under that, which again would have been nice to know from an inspector before we purchase the home.
Yeah, it looks like this part is made out of crackers. Yeah, you know, here taste. I mean to be fair, this Captain was built like the nineties, sixties. There's there's definitely a lot of you know, there's only a lot of love in there, but there also is a lot of there's a lot of well that that'll work for now. It's got a lot of Southern influences, let's say, in terms of the repairs were done of not a lot
of like overthinking of anything. Yeah, like I love the idea that you had to get the deck tightened up, because yes, I never like a loosely assembled deck was Look he.
Did he did point out the railing needs to be tightened. Great, that's fair enough. I'm only to tighten the railing and again disclosed, that's all I asked for. And again it is a total privileged thing. You know, not everybody can get a hause I've never been in this position. But at the same time, yeah, it would be nice to know literally what you're buying. So I don't know, I don't know at what point the real estate agent and the inspector and everyone else got got together to have
a good laugh at our expense. But I hope they enjoyed their I hope they enjoyed their drinks.
I mean there, I don't think you have zero recourse if you do feel that, like you were, like, you know, at least got a terrible home inspection. I'm sure at some point you can like at least complain, so like.
Yeah, I mean we can't. I can definitely let the let the real estate know. Hey, I think this guy missed some stuff in case, you know, you're gonna recommend him to somebody.
He's like, wait, who's this. I don't know, Sorry, this is like a phone. I don't know right now, I gotta go.
Yeah, I had at least a new deck. You can't at least put a dead rat on his windshield. Yeah, the home inspector, which the chimney guy. I'll give this guy credit. The chimney guy found a dead bat in the which was not great, but better than a live bat.
Yeah. Yeah, trying to look on the bright side.
So hospitable to bats was exactly mons.
Ceased to exist when entering this fireplace.
My aunt and uncle just sold their house, and my uncle was telling me this thing he learned during the process that real estate agents, compared to the people they were representer just people who aren't real estate agents, their homes stay on the market for like six months longer on average than everyone else, like because they know that like a viral come along. They're not in a panic. But when they're representing you jump on this. I don't
know if anything else is coming through. So and presumably the home inspectors, who they know, are just gonna give it a nice little once over and the ones who are going to like go in and like really inspect their ship, and then you know.
That probably you got to the cans. I mean, guys, come on, yeah, I got to touch the cans.
That's right then, because part of me singing like if a real estate aid like they want to get the price down for you, so their inspectors should be going in and like that. This is fucked up, this fucked up. Tighten that up. No, I mean.
They don't want to get the price down.
The price, but I mean.
This is I don't know. I guess this is me being like, when are they advocating for the customer?
I know, well, that's why we should opendent.
They tell you about the property, that's why they're advocating.
And to be fair, we did we did sign something with both with the inspector and the real estate agents saying that you know, so I'm certain you know as far as recourse or whatever, you know, I'm sure it's all it's all a legally and all that. And then who wants to go to quarter get a.
Little Yeah, I might remind you to look at paragraph four. Okay, it just says.
Nana Nana Nana exactly.
Yeah, refer to the.
Two of you with your legs kicked up smoking cigars. Yeah, that's so weird.
Sharing. I'm going to try to fix the refrigerator myself. I I have qualified myself by watching a YouTube video. Yeah, and uh ordering a repair kit and then I will call a professional. Yeah yeah, okay, well, like's get a new one.
The things that I can fix in a household include toilet and that's it. Yeah, that's about it. I think I think maybe like a pipe, but I think I can usually figure out what's going on with one of those, but this one. Seator gets pretty complicated.
This one again, I just watched the I watched two different YouTube videos about it. They each had the same solution to this, to the problem of the refrigerator for this model and I, and neither of them involves opening up the back. So I think that part like that, I think that I can just do it all from like the internal or you know, from from just like moving stuff out of the front. Like I'm willing to try that. I'm also willing to abandon the project after ten minutes.
So it''s okay.
I learned, like I've I've looked at all kinds of YouTube videos to like do kind of like electrical kind of stuff. I learned the most just from having like my best friend's dad who's an electrician, who like just came by to be like, Okay, let me just show you the basics so you do not fucking hurt yourself, right, And then he's like, and this is a couple of things you need. Now I'm out here. I'll put in a fucking GFCI outlet if we need to fucking switch it up, you need dim put in. I'll put in
a light fixture. I don't.
I'm one with the electric am Damn.
You're looking to come up to a cabin and do a little electrical work for the you.
Know I might work.
Scares the shit out of me. I could just see myself dead next to a chair underneath like a light socket.
Do you know?
Do the most you know, the most responsible thing was just turn the power off? You know, like that's a breaker, you know what I mean?
I did. Actually that's I did actually fix our stove yesterday. And the only reason I did that is because the first instruction was unplug it. I was like, okay, yes, no risk, nothing. The worst that's going to happen. If I'm going to make the stove worse, I'm not going to make myself worse. Right, so far, so far, so good.
What's what's something you think is underrated?
Well? On my show, go factorself, which I'm sure we'll have an opportunity to promote soon enough. We are scheduled to have Ed beg Lee Junior on the show. In fact, we're scheduled to have him this past Sunday, but we cancel it. We postponed because of the alleged hurricane. And I, in researching our guests, which I do, I believe that Ed Begley Junior is criminally underrated as an actor and as a person. Yeah, he's been over He's been in
like three hundred and fifty film and TV projects. He was completely right about the climate and about electric cars and about you know, all the stuff he does with healthy food and all that. And he was the butt of jokes for so many years because he was trying to save the planet and now we're all just trying to catch up to Ed Begley Junior. And then on top of that, he was amazing on Better Call Saul and and everything else. He does. He does the comedy,
does the drama. He's got a new memoir coming out. I think Ed Begley Junior is fantastic. And then you look at some of these films he made back in the seventies, like he worked, he worked a couple of times with Paul Schrader and just all these incredible directors doing all this, you know, very varied work. And Ed Begley Junior. I am on board and I'm very excited to host him when we reschedule.
That show, damn for sure.
Yeah.
Also, Stay is working.
And constantly like he's generous with his time. He's you know, yeah, he does films, he does feature you know, he'll he'll do big, big projects. He'll do things to help people out. He's been on Broadway. I mean, he's he's amazing.
People were clowning him for having an electric vehicle, like yeah in the game and they're like and he's like, just way too dumb. Fucks in the future basically yeah, and then it's very ed but also shout out to him. He also went to we went to the same high school, not at the same time obviously, but he's also from the Valor grew up in the valley. I know he's from New York originally, but he grew up in the valley too, no kidding, I always yeah, he's always at the like studio city to say, yeah.
You definitely can see him in the valley all over.
Yeah, yeah, yeah, all the time.
And for a while it was sort of a joke because you knew when you were driving by Ed Begley's house because it was the one with you know, the solar panels in the electric car and yeah, and now all the all the houses in that neighborhood look like that exactly.
There is that Simpson's joke that super producer Brian shared that I remember that.
Powered by my own self satisfaction. That's another thing.
He did that voice for that joke.
He was right.
All that, and you're right and you have a sense of humor about it.
Yeah, amazing. Well that's very cool. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about the new use and we're back. Do you guys have a chance to read peruse the Runim Pharaoh article about.
I read a distillation of it from another person.
Read the distillation. Yes, I did not get to read the actual article.
Okay, I read some ex's about it, Okay.
Yeah, I mean the big thing is that, like there there are big chunks of the US government that are heavily reliant on him, like his Starlink satellites make the war effort in Ukraine possible to a large degree. And there was one point where he like didn't like the
amount of money he was getting. And also people are speculating that he was starting to come around to the Russian of the war and had like had some conversations with Putin and you know, Ukrainian forces were in a battle and the internet turned off right and they were like, hey, what what the what the funk just happened? And it was, you know, he was holding out.
He can he can be sure, because he seems very well reasoned and on the right side so many issues.
I mean, looking at his past tweets, he was just basically like, yeah, I think like Ukraine needs to like chill out and just get back with Russia. That's my take.
I don't know whatever, but that was weird that when I first saw that Ronan Pharaoh wrote elon Musk, I was a little disappointed that it wasn't about something like the kind of thing.
Yeah, it is a little bit. And it also like, for for as dumb as he looks on the Twitter thing specifically, and as dumb as he looks in specific anecdotes throughout this, he is making smart moves in terms of acquiring power, putting himself in a position to be yeah, absolutely necessary to the US car So.
Weird is because you know, so much of his the messages he's been putting out are about these the sort of micro decisions that he's making. You know, when when you've got this huge thing, it's like you'd think, I guess if I guess, he doesn't have a publicisty, he doesn't have anyone consulting him, he doesn't have anyone to say no to him. But you think they'd be like, elon, let people know that, like you control the Internet over an entire country, Like that's such a more important thing.
Then I'm deciding that we're gonna get rid of the block button on you know, on this app that that millions of fewer people use nowadays.
Yeah, I like that the starlink think the starlink thing may just sort of lead to a greater conversation of like, wait, how much power does this dude have? Like no, no, but is like kissing the ring.
You're desit like stark Industry's territory. Now, oh yeah, I mean if you literally, you literally can affect the outcome of a of a war. And of course you know it's never great when billionaires cozy up to dictators.
No no, no no.
And Putin is like people think maybe the actual richest person in the world world, So I mean they they would have aligned priorities from that respect, because Putin's just surrounds himself with cello players who are worth three billion dollars for some reason.
Yeah, Like, huh, what's interesting. It's kind of a symbiotic relationship. You look at how much that you know, when it was even before Elon. You know what Twitter did for Russia in terms of, you know, getting their propaganda out there. You know a lot of I don't know how monetizable that's been for Elon. Uh, he's you know, taken so much of the value out. But it is an interesting, you know relationship of you know, what what's in it
for each of them? Like what's in it for Elon if they're you know, unless there's some secret dealing that we don't know about. Yeah, you know which way is the money flowing.
Yeah, so NASA is completely reliant on SpaceX to supply the International Space Station. And again in this case, the second he has the power like that, uh, you know, people are relying on him, he become he like tests the limits, you know, like there's a there's a launch that that FA is like the weather, you truly can't launch this, Like this's just like you're not gonna be able to land it. And he goes through with that anyways and is basically like, and what are you going
to do about that? You're gonna you're gonna fuck with me and you're gonna find me.
I'd rather ask for forgiveness than permission. And then he doesn't ask for forgiveness.
You know, yeah, and then he'll just make a threat to He's like, well those motherfuckers can die up in the space station, you know, we don't have to go up there. And they're like okay, fuck fuck fine.
But privatization is so great. I mean this is just one of you know.
So wid Yeah. There there's like these moments where the like head of the FAA is like calling him after he like did this reckless launch to be like hey, we're going to ground you for like a couple like literally ground your rockets for a couple of months. But he opens the call being like you've done so much for the space, for the world of space. We're like so grateful, thank you so much. Elan Like he just can't like walk three steps without somebody kissing his eyes. Yeah.
So same pattern with Tesla, Like their self driving tech was rolling through stop lights and the authorities were like, you can't program self driving tech that intentionally breaks the law, Like you know that, right, uh? And Tesla is basically like can too, you know, because the entire infrastructure of like electronic vehicle charging is reliant on Tesla chargers. Like the the Biden administration like made a change and was like, no, it seems like they've got it.
What are they gonna do? Find him a million dollars?
Right again, fines don't matter to somebody who's this rich. So we've got ourselves in a fine kettle of fish. And yeah, basically Tesla back down at the last second, but he will use his power as recklessly and aggressively as he wants. It seems to be the who can see the implication.
Yeah, yeah, that's I mean, it's like every group you've named is basically like in an abusive relationship with him, Right.
Yeah, that's it. That really feels like what it is. And that's government.
It's kind of like to respect yourself. He's like, yeah, look, look, doo, do you got to make sure your next move is your best move? You know what I mean? You should
get with me. But I think when you like, I know that on one hand, we're talking about like, yes, he definitely has this tremendous amount of power that he's concentrated over the years, and like and now part of it is sort of like that like with Trump, is like is it that he is so genius or is that his instincts are just aligned with this kind of predatory behavior of like totally finding those spots and knowing, okay,
they're in bed with me. Now, oh shit, if I get if I control all this ship, then I know they can't say shit to me. And if it's just sort of like his instincts or you know, is he like Machiavelli, like you know, really rubbing his mits. I think that's probably just because he's a billionaire. It's just his his brain is just set to this kind of of like power consolidation.
I can't I continue to think he's like a genius of power consolidation and power acquisition and being a predator. Like that's that's how you become a billionaire in the first place, is just being a super predator of like economic finding economic situations that benefit you and then just demolishing people over and over and over and over again until you have all their money.
Yeah, it's sort of the dark side of Hutzba, Like you know what I mean, It's like nobody, nobody would have the gall to try to consolidate so much, or try to do so much, or try to ignore so many rules and then you know that That's what I sort of see in common with with Trump is you know, is of course you're not going to be held accountable.
You're just going to keep going right. Yeah, now, r does that momentum lead?
For sure?
We're talking about the narcissistic personality disorder, like at a pathological level, seems to be the pack for our current system.
Yeah.
It's like the thing that allows you to be yeah.
Yeah, and both so thin skinned, you know, so concerned about people liking them and praising them, and you know, can't handle any any kind of a criticism or you know, all the stuff that that Elan's doing on X right.
Which helps because that like that there is a moment in the article where they talk to somebody who like works closely with him, and they're like, he wakes up, answering emails, goes to bed, answering emails, never sleeps, is like lives probably the most miserable life that I've ever
witnessed in my life. Like he's just but but I think that is what drives him, is being that thin skinned and just being a petulant baby, and like not being willing to admit that when he is wrong, you know, and yeah, and then just using every advantage that he has to acquire power and then use that power to punish the people who said he was wrong in the first place.
But that kitchen sink bit, that was hilarious. Guys, come on, oh.
My god, so did you write that for him? I figure a very funny comedian must have written.
You called that pro break.
Yeah, all right, it's debate night, folks. I can't remember a primary debate. I feel like I've been uninterested in primary debates before. But this one, this one really. I don't know, man, I guess maybe people are expecting that, like they're going to come for DeSantis and we'll we'll get to you know that there are the promises that something has gone wrong inside of him and we might get to see it come out erupt forth.
Yeah. I would love to see an un rehearsed moment with this antist, you know, I'd love to see someone trigger that response.
Yeah.
Yeah, he is on the back foot completely going into this debate, like especially with like those debate memo that debate like plan leaking, and people are like, okay.
So I'm about that. What is that?
Basically there was some ship that said like defend Trump hammermas Ramaswami Vivic Ramaswami.
Uh.
Then there was like another thing that was like so painful. It was like evoke family connection with anecdote and like it was just like it was just He's like, you know, but everyone's gonna have your debate, prep is going to have things like that, like who you should go after?
It shouldn't say a pro approximate human emotion.
No, no, no, it definitely was yeah, like it hold on, let me pull it up because the way it's written, Uh, debate.
Prep Defend Trump is so funny because Trump is just shitting on him NonStop. And yeah, his one note for how to deal with Trump is defend Trump at all costs.
Yeah, I am curious to see because I really have Obviously I don't agree with him on most issues, but I have really admired how Chris Christy has been kind of prosecuting the case and how he's been articulating, like, you know, you can disagree with him, but I feel like he has been intelligently and clearly saying, you know, all these truths about Trump, but also kind of you know, what he wants to do with the country, and you
can disagree about his policies whatever. And I am curious if if there's any chance any of that kind of message can get through, especially since he'll be you know, the only one aside maybe from it was Asa Hutchinson I think is also kind of anti Trump. Yeah that if any of that message gets through to the people watching this on Fox News.
It's just hard because like you know, he tried to do that in twenty sixteen and then he completely capitulated. Yeah, and he was like, yeah, I love Trump basically, so I don't know what the problem is. So he looks, you know, he's like a weebel wobble and in terms of like what he is able to sort of stand on. But that is true, like he is intelligent enough to be like, well, he looks the most non Trumpian candidate
if you're looking at it from that perspective. So in this in this fucking memo, it said, here are the four basic must do is of your overarching goals of the debate. One attack Joe Biden in the media three to five times. It's like a recipe, uh, you know, state gr d's positive vision two to three times. Then it says hammer Vivid Ramaswami in a response for defend Donald Trump in absentia in response to a Chris Christie attack. So he's that's like kind of you know, he's that's so anyway, his home.
I'm trying to run for vice president is that I'm trying to get on the ticket with him.
I feel like this whole debate is people basically auditioning to be part of the administration on some levels. So like now we're like, okay, who's going to be on stage? Like you said Chris Christie, Ron de Santis, Nikki Haley, Vivid Ramaswami who had like some really cool nine to eleven things to say this week, Mike Pence, Asa Hutchinson, Doug Bergram, and Tim Scott. Doug Bergram is the governor I believe of North Dakota who only got in because he had this like like gift card scheme in order
to get as many brothers. He's like basically hacked his way onto that debate stage. So we will see, uh whereas Bergram Yeah, Bergham, Yeah, I've never heard that before. Yeah, because he basically he just basically found a way to just sneak in at the last minute. And again, this is kind of where a candidate like that or people who have nothing going on, maybe they can find a
moment to like shine or whatever. But I have a feeling based on like that leaked memo with DeSantis, He's going in and like they're just gonna call me out on the memo probably the whole time I say anything. But I think he's probably gonna be like the wimpy kid that the other candidates are just gonna beat up on for points during the debate. So that might be kind of cool. And then he like starts screaming about
Guantanamo Bay. But yeah, not entirely sure who's gonna stand out here, because really it just feels like at this point all eyes are on Trump, and he said, well, I'm gonna hang out with Tucker Carlson and I'm doing something with Tucker Carlson that night. So the next day, Yeah, then I got core. Then I guess I had to turn myself in where I.
Gotta get arrested.
Yeah, where these Soros funded courts are putting a two hundred thousand dollars bond and making putting conditions on it, like I can't make any threats to anyone having anything to do with the case, or else I will have my bond revoked and who knows what will happen then. But he put on truth social this one right after we found out, like because the bond hearing was sort of like you say, fucking anything, Yeah, like sideways to anybody involved with this, and it's gonna get revoked. Now.
I don't sure I'll believe it when I see it, because it just feels like this whole time, this Trump is like just sort of like Elon Musk, He's like, yeah, okay, like see you try it, watch this, but he this is what he put put out on truth Social Right after that, hearing quote the failed District Attorney of Fulton County, Atlanta and parenthetical Fannie Willis insisted on a two hundred thousand dollars bond for me. I assume therefore, that she
thought I was a quote flight risk. I'd life far away, maybe to Russia, Russia, Russia, share a gold domed suite with Vladimir, never to be seen or heard from again. Would I be able to take my very quote understated airplane with the gold Trump affixed to all to see. Probably not. I'd be much better offline commercial. I'm sure nobody would recognize me.
What is he getting at there with the like it just feels like I don't know.
I think he's trying to say, maybe, like I can't how could I be a front?
How could I be a flight plane? Has got it right?
Yeah, He's like, or you know, there's like a private plane and you know I just abscond.
Maybe to Russia, Russia, Russia.
Domed. That is so specific that I really would love to know more.
I mean, most of his accusations are confessions and this. Yeah, Also, like we're gonna find out later like, oh, they passed money to each other in a gold Dome suite.
Right, the gold Dome suite is where the one full comprom ent story occurred. Maybe something like that. But yeah, maybe so I don't know. Maybe he'll go to Russia and be a common Stephen Sagal or something.
But yeah, is there a future where he just runs to Russia, like loses the election, runs to Russia is the new Steven Sagal and we just like get video dispatches from him.
I wouldn't be shocked if that happened, because his whole thing is like avoiding accountability. So like, if I were him, you're probably always have an eye on that option to be like, I could always just fuck off to Russia and there's no way they can get me there. So maybe there's that probably true, But I don't know. I mean, I think his ego probably wants to see what happens, but I have no clue. I mean, we'll see how these trials go. But well, that's that's the thing, Jack.
We just don't know, and we just.
Don't know the laws will be equally applied to everybody, so we've seen DeSantis like kind of be a counterpuncher with the media in some cases, Like there were a couple things on COVID I remember where he People are like he owns this reporter. But it seems like not since the campaign has started, has he had any sort of response to any sort of adversity or criticism that hasn't like felt like it's bordering on unhinged. Yeah, well, am I missing anything? Has there ever? Has he been able to like.
Think he just fires as a staff member every time he gets a hard question.
Yeah, or his like or his boots get bigger, different, you said one recent pick of him with his cowboy boots on under his suit, and like he always wears this outfit, but like the way the boots are like too big for the pant leg I'm like, this is just bad styling. Well whatever, you got to get that, lyft ron, I get it. You want to go vertical on him, And of course.
We wouldn't care if he were a decent person and had decent policies and you know, the people in a decent manner, But the fact that he doesn't just just just adds one other thing to point to.
He's like I hate everything. So because of that, I know hate will be directed at me and I can only defend myself with these boots, Yes, damn it. So yeah, I mean I think, you know, honestly, like when he was you know, quote unquote poning the media back then, that was through the lens of just him being this
you know, like rogue governor. Yeah, and now like as it shifts into well how's that compared to these other people, how's that compared to Trumps now he's running for president, then the attacks get a little bit different, and even he can't keep like the energy the same way, being more called.
Out for his bullying now, and he doesn't really have a good response for it, because that's sort of what it is, you know, because he can't he can't just say like, yeah, I'm an asshole. That's that's what I do. That's that's that's gonna because I'm an asshole.
Right yeah.
Or now he's like telling Bob Eiger, He's like, why don't we just knock it off and drop the lawsuit man? Because like I won, like I don't care anymore. So it's like okay, because.
Like as usual a lot of times with trolls, they don't. They don't think it out to the logical conclusion. It's like, well, well, if the other person actually responds, what happened to you? Stand up? You know what happens if you stand up to bully? It's like, then then then what do you do? You know, it's a lot easier to say we're gonna ban this, and you know, we're gonna sue this, and then when it actually happens, you know somebody, you know, it's like the it's it's standing up to a bully.
It's a car catching up to the dog. They don't know what to do with themselves.
Yeah, totally.
Well it'll be interesting. I guess Chris Christie's our greatest hope because like, I don't think that helps. I don't think Mike Pence is gonna like have much smoke for him, right.
We'll see if knowing him, he's gonna go up incrementally when he's like I felt like I was in danger on January sixth, and you're like, okay, dude, they tried, they were gonna whatever. Yeah whatever.
Man, See, he's got a little speech ready about you know, I alway was asked to do something in the Constitution doesn't allow me to do it, and so I didn't do it, And then I believe that's made a difference in any of the pully.
Yeah, I know. It's funny too because so many of these like the way they talk to the voters, it's like they're talking to like Republican voters that don't exist anymore, you know what I mean, Like like like DeSantis evokes the military and stuff like that, it was like, but you guys have completely jettisoned your like that connection or your respect for the military with Trump, like where you know, whether it was people like Colonel Vinman or gold Star families,
they were like fuck these hater ass military people, like fuck a veteran, to the point that that became normal. So it's just like odd where like all of these people just seem like the same version of like trying to be like a nineties Republican, like early odds Republican, but also yeah, no more but like winking at like light fascism. It's just a very I don't know, it's gonna be painful, but we'll probably have to watch nonetheless.
Yeah, all right, let's take one more quick break and we'll be right back.
And we're back.
We are. And there's this article in New York Times, I think on Monday, where I don't know they it seems like so the US like airline industry has had a really good run of like there hasn't been a death, like a crash, a fatal crash in since I think two thousand and nine, and they have these policies in place that are called like the Swiss Cheese plan, where it's like there may be a hole at this level, but it's like on top of this other layer of checks that might have a hole at a different layer,
but like ultimately you get down to the bottom and like all holes are patched up. There are just like checks on checks on checks on checks. But this New York Times report is saying that both internal like FAA data and also like NASA has an external like they keep track of near misses, and like they've really shot up in the past couple months even and people within the industry are like, I mean, this is not going to be anything new for anyone to hear. But the
staffing shortage, this is a direct quote. Staffing shortage is beyond unsustainable. It has now moved into a phase of just plain dangerous, one air traffic controller wrote to the FAA last year and a confidential safety report. But then you have Matthew Layer, an FAA spokesman, who said the agency's multi layered approach to safety has quote virtually eliminated the risk of fatalities aboard US commercial airlines.
Virtually doing a lot of heavy lifting in that.
City virtually, And by that he means we've mostly started focusing on the metaverse, yeah, and virtual. Yeah, we are going vacation yeah, yeah. But I don't know, Like it seems like it's the same the thing that we see happening to all industries, whether it be like hospitals or whatever. It's like, you know, companies come in, they h cut, cut cut, you know, people make less money, there is
less staff. It is pleasing to Wall Street. It is unsustainable for the people who actually work for these companies, and like because the incentive system is set up for these companies to be just like look, good line go
up on Wall Street. We have a lot of things falling apart in this country and like this, just like this, I don't want to go I don't want to go out like this because like some fucking asshole executive was, you know, not even from the airline industry, but like from some private equity company that owns a stake in the airline industry, was like, what if we had half of the staff, wouldn't that make my yacht slightly bigger?
Just saying yeah, I mean I could land well if we do that, I could definitely land a helicopter on it now, Yeah, which is what I'm trying to do.
So Yeah, Unfortunately, it's a lot of like you were saying, it's a lot of how we deal with issues of maintenance and and ongoing you know, bigger macro issues. I think maybe I wonder if it's just sort of in general to human level, but certainly in the US, you know, you look at you know, we don't we don't work at fixing our bridges until they collapse, you know, you know, you know work you know. I mean, there is the corporate rate element of it, where you know, you're responsible
more for your stockholders inder your customers. I mean, then when that involves safety, that's obviously terrible. But yeah, and then there's also a little bit of the hubris also that like, oh we fix that, and you know, I don't you know, but I recently bought a cab and had an inspection, and they also do a lot of things,
so I can very much relate to this. Yeah, it's it's it's trying to do so much more with less and relying not on the people on the ground literally, but on the on the people who are looking at the at the numbers, you know, and you look at like, to me, my favorite government agency, and I'm sure we all have one, is the National Transportation Safety Board because they just they come in, they investigate the stuff they seem you know, the historically been well funded, and then
you know, without fear of favor, the issue of report and usually the FAA does exactly whatever they say. And then lately they haven't as much. They think they're they think they're being too cautious.
Well they got two bosses, they got them, and then they've got Elon Musk.
Yeah, yeah, there you go. It all comes back to Elon. So, I mean, I still feel safe flying. It still is the safest form of transportation. But yeah, this definitely, this definitely is alarming, and the fact that there's no humility, you know, at least in their initial statements. They're not they're not saying, you know why they feel they have these these risks done, They're not supporting it with you know,
with evidence. It's just saying, you know, hey, trust this, we got this, and then what's the accountability when they don't? You know, someone gets fired. That's it.
I mean, yeah, pop quiz assholes. For all the people making money off the airlines, what do you think is going to happen into the company value when there's some kind of fucking accident.
Yeah, they always bounce back that way. You know, they're betting bailed out by the government, you know.
Or it's like that movie did you watch Hijack on Apple Teve? That intertell the thing because they get similar plot to like bankrupt an airline with like a crash and all this other stuff and like dumping the stock.
Anyway, it's most noteworthy for me for like basically not existing, being like an address Elba series that It's like, if that was a movie, that would be a big deal. I would watch it like I watched Beast or whatever the Lion movie was, right, But like, yeah, I just like I can't believe how little that series exists. Did you watch it?
Is a good I watched it because when my mom was babysitting, Like, she watched a couple episodes, so it like it. When I turn on my TV, it's like, want to continue. I'm like, I never started this shit. And then so I started watching the pilot, and then her majesty got completely sucked away. She's like, we gotta watch the next one. We gotta watch.
Yeah, we gotta watch the next one.
I love.
I love airline disaster movies. I believe I have an Apple TV account through a friend, and I have not heard of this until you just meant yeah.
No, no, sa same. That's the thing with that, no one knows half the shows Prime, who.
Like, really truly, these shows might might as well not exist. Prime made the most expensive show ever of all time, and the only reason people knew about it was because it was the most expensive show ever of all time. Like that, and then there were a bunch of stories about that, and then nobody really watched it.
Now if they advertised during Colombo on Peacock.
Thank you, Yeah, I think honestly, I think the racist backlash to people seeing black elves may have been more of a PR push than anything Amazon. When more people were like, damn, these fucking people are mad that they're black. Okay, whatever, fucking Lord of they go, I keep that ship.
This also reminds me of there's a chapter in the book Wisdom of Crowds that is about the Challenger disaster and like how this group of people just got hijacked by this, like a couple people who are incentivized to have the launch go off on time, and but like over and over, the other thing you see is just they had been hypnotized by their own good luck and good fortune to that point, like the there hadn't been a space crash to that point, and like they were like,
we fucking landed on the moon, like that shit's crazy. Past thirteen happened and we still came out like, Okay, we are golden. And so like the exact thing that ended up causing the crash was like on the table at this meeting the day before the launch was supposed to go off, and like a bunch of experts were like, you, you're crazy if you're gonna let this go forth, Like these like o rings are going to cause the fucking thing to explode.
And gambler's fallacy, isn't it where Yeah, it's.
The gambler's fallacy, where you're like on a you just expect the string of good luck to continue. Yeah, And I think the airline industry is kind of going through a similar thing where they're like, we've it's an amazing run, folks, We're really doing it. We're the best, and.
Which they are. But that doesn't mean, yeah, it doesn't mean you can't pay attention to warning signs.
Yeah, right, which I think again, like to the thing we've just been saying, with so many industries or like our infrastructure, it's like we're all coasting off of that initial investment, you know what I mean, like like post like post war investmentmentructure power. It was funny then and then it was like fuck it, y'all, we got this and it's like, dude, this state school is fucking crumpling
into ash, Like what the fuck is this? It was like years ago, dude, it's fine, we put money down, nothing happened, and then it does like oh shit, oh fuck. And I'm sure with the same thing because of like the safety regulations that are in place. Yeah, it's there for a reason, but it's not because then you can coast off of that ship at the end you have to keep maintaining that level of service, you know, and that's why you.
Hear that an old cabin.
Yeah, that's right, Well there's your problem. But like there's a part of the story where Biden is like they're like the Biden administration has been like asking for funding to better staff like air traffic controllers, but like that is just a The job of the president is no longer like you say a thing and it gets done.
You gotta be able to give him more money or hire more of them.
Yeah, yeah, he Instead, it's like this job where you're like, I don't know, like my hands are tied. Manna talk to Congress, to Congress, it's not wrong. Got to talk to billionaires, all right. Uh So anyways, there there's something if you're if you're flying anytime soon to uh make me second guess that.
Oh God, I hope. I'm gonna go ahead and I'm gonna have faith for now. But yeah, it's it is alarming when the workers of a very important industry are saying we are spread too thin at an unsustainable level.
That was it's very easy for critics to to say, like, well, of course they're going to say that because they want to you know, they want more money or they want less work. So you know which I was greedy.
Air traffic control Barrens exactly.
Yeah, and all the greedy ground crew buck Yeah.
But you know what, I would rather overpay and push the job of someone whose lives are you know, people are depending on for their lives than so many other industries and jobs that's done. It's like, yeah, you know what, give them an extra hour a day, give them a right rather.
Than extra few bucks an hour, because like they're definitely like drifting into like stocked and rush ocean gate ceo like mentality of like it's like it's fine, it's everything is so fucking safe man.
Yeah, yeah, because a homemade submarine hadn't imploded at the bottom of the ocean yees yet. He was like, so it's probably not going to happen. We're probably good here, right all right? Well, j Keith and Stratton, such a pleasure having you daily's like, gist.
So wonderful to be here as always.
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Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying.
Well, you might have heard me talk about Colombo, but I also I just discovered yesterday this wonderful website called Los Angeles Theaters. It's at Los Angeles Theaters are Yes dot blogspot dot com. There's a theater in my neighborhood that's been sitting vacant for over ten years and they're finally doing something with it. And I was kind of curious about the history and this guy has this site.
I spent hours there just learning about like when it opened and all the different things that have happened to it over over all the years. As you all probably know, there's incredible historic theaters all over LA that you know, some of which are now you know, a bookstore, a gap, and some of which are actual theaters, and and this site is such a wonderful, beautiful, loving deep dive into their history and all the places they've appeared in films and that kind of stuff. So I really I really
recommend that way. It's called Los Angeles Theaters Theaters with an Ari dot blogspot dot. He takes like he finds like original articles about like the theater openings and happenings and historical images from all over I just discovered yesterday. I hope it's not a front for some sort of Nazi propaganda.
But so far, so good.
Yeah.
Oh wow, yeah, because I like that. I think you're mentioning bookstar on Venturo, Yes, used to be a theater and that's one of them. Was like, yeah, that was like my go to bookstore as a kid, and I was always like amazing. I'm like, wow, it's like a there's like a ticket box office and stuff. But then you can go in and buy whatever you want. Okay, now, I'm definitely gonna check this out.
Amazing, Miles, where can people find you? Is there a working media you've been enjoying?
I'm like getting lost in this list of like, whoa, there's stuff by my house?
Okay, wow, yeah, all right, this is great.
Okay. You can find me at Miles of Gray wherever they got at Symbols. You can find Jack and I are on our basketball podcast, Miles and Jack. I'm Matt Booth, you know, just previewing the NBA season.
I think we'll be talking about the Central Division in the next episode. Then you can find me on my true crime podcast, The Good Thief, talking about the search for Vasilispalio Costas the Greek robin Hood.
And also, you know, if you like trash reality for twenty Day Fiance was Sophia, Alexandra and I. It's a wonderful than working media. Like hey, actually, yesterday was the thirtieth anniversary of the premiere of the show That Friends Ripped Off aka A Living Single. Because I can't believe it.
It's a third I don't even want to like think about that, but shout out the whole gang from that show, because man, that was a seminal show for me and h Yeah, you can still stream it and you know, learn yourself about something good.
There you go. You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien a couple tweets I've been enjoying Alex patas satire Kitchen responded to the video of the person the woman who was talking about the challenge of going to see Oppenheimer with her husband who didn't want to see the sex sex scene and like to put his head on her shoulder, and Alex wrote, when there's a sex scene in a movie, my wife spraised me with a hose, so I don't break the TV trying to quote.
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