Billionaire’s Hurt Feelings = Lawsuit, CEO Mimicry 01.23.23

like p I E. Eating. We know pie days. You're mathematics that the best of March fourteen, but we're talking about p I E Pie today. They should have combined those. Just just a note to the big too big pie two big p I E. You should combine it with the other one. That's like when I feel like all the like engineer like math nerds I knew were like they had pie part Like it's like over for pie Jay like made a selection of pies. If they kind of go ahead, and that is how they talk to you.

Hand right, Jack, do I hand right? You're doing some handwriting. I gotta handwriting. I've got to I've got some of that. Yeah, I do. I do a lot of handwriting. Actually, oh, okay, your handwriting just to get the mind working in the morning, you know. Oh ship, Now, I've been writing thank you cards, you know, for people getting us baby stuff. So I've been doing like so much handwriting that I'm like, oh, I missed this. I feel like I'm back in school

having to do an essay in handwriting. I must report to ze Gang as a recipient of one of said thank You know, Miles has beautiful handwriting. Yeah, baby pool looking handwriting. It's all block letters. The best imagine imagine what you think Miles is handwritings like it's it's the

best interpretation. It's not like frilly or anything. It's just like when when the man puts the pen somewhere he meant to yeah you can, I think any like writing and like analysts would be like you are putting a lot of pressure on that pen, like I'm digging deep with that thing. But anyway, yeah, yeah, I know there's a lot of tension there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, because that was the other thing we remarked on good handwriting, and

oh boy, there's a lot going on, sir. Yeah. Anyways, my name's Jack O'Brien, a K. Potatoes O'Brien, a k protutors O'Brien, and I'm thrilled to be joined as always by my co host Mr Miles Ground. My goodness, yes it's me because my artwork is in Larna, Sophia and the El Prado call me Salvador Daddy eventually, not quite yet, but yes, that will probably be a new nickname soon.

Shout out to a Christie. I'm Acucci man for that wonderful He mustn't know when I was in Afpania over the summer, which I did take in some wonderful works by h and Dolly of course, and of course yeah because as well, Miles Enough beating around, we were thrilled to be doing in our third seat by a hilarious enough with the ship out of you being an impending father or whatever. You've seen some art. We gotta we got a heater today. Yeah, hilarious stand up comedian, common writer, actor,

fashion icon, whose shirts are available at Guarantee Shirts. One of our all time favorite TTZ guests. One of y'all's favorite TTZ guests, The Brilliant, the Raw, the Major Kitlynn. This is me hugging the Zy Gang. I hope you can that everybody just got it. Consensual hug only those who want one. If you're not into that door being most of us, you're fine. Most of you are problem. I feel like it's a huggy crowd. I knew, Miles

that you had excellent handwriting. I knew it, I felt it in my bumpes that your handwriting was cultivated and exquisite. Thank you, that was correct. It's hi. What wonderful praises a pleasure as all ways to join you in your lovely than it's wonderful handwriting looking like fast? It's hurry. My handwriting looks like I am thinking about the next sentence already and would like to get it on the page. Do you have like do you have like hybrid cursive

printing handwriting? Because you know how people like when I hear people who write fast. I've always envisioned like that hybrid cursive while also printing. Is that you ye? Okay, yeah, it's a little a lot of letters I've just trained to run together in something like normal. They're not the shape of a curve of letter. But I'm not looking pencil. Who's got the time? Right? Right? I'm busy. I will show you a to do list that has my handwriting

on it. Yeah, I was just taking notes about what a guest needs to know on this stained book, and I feel like even backwards, you know that that's exactly what it would look like. Yeah, this is a to do list that I discovered while cleaning on a closet from over I think probably two years ago. I've accomplished half of the things on this put You didn't specify what multiple mountains, but one of the one of the items on the to do list is just Havana syndrome. Get to the bottom of just how hi on the

list is that? Can? I ask, how how long have you been writing a list before you were like here, three, four, five, six, seven, eight nine item syndrome? Just enough, said future self, you know what this means, ship, It's like shitty memento. It's like what havana syndrome? Figure it out? Figure it out, solve the jfk assassination, Havana syndrome. Whats gonna climate change area.

One of my favorite jokes in the world, Sean Kane wrote himself so he would remember it because he knew he was not in a state to remember it when it occurred to him. At the time, and it is a list of soy cheese names that make me laugh like like a child, like I hear that, I've heard that, I request that joke anytime I can make Shaan Kine do it for me. And when next time you talked to comedian Shan Kine or listened to him, I highly shout out so soy cheeses. I will just cite my favorite.

Monterey John is the best thing I ever heard, John. But that was in a note he left himself and discovered the meeting of which I'm so thankful he retained. Can you imagine just opening your phone to see the phrase Monterey John and having no no frame of reference? What were you thinking? Why has this been written? What past self decided that that was a necessary note? I remain never thankful that Sean held on to just enough shreds of that memory. But they're one of my favorite

pieces of stand up material of all time. It also relies on our knowledge that Jack is a nickname for John, which the majority of the United States does not have. I will I will have you know as somebody who is a born John who goes by Jack. Most people, why the hell do you do that? That's strange and has for in derivative. I can go so many ways. I think Katie and whatever I ca Yeah, I just can't stop starting with cats. But all the kate ones

are allowed to Yeah somebow. I feel like Courtney sneaks in. I could just do it if I want it? Why not? That's right now? And Miles, you just have a cool name. So you're you're like, yeah, I'm good. I told I think I've said it before. I always wanted to be DJ in the nineties. Oh god, yeah, I was like, why don't I d J man? That felt like the sikest name I remember. I was like, Yo, this name

is bullshit. Why can't have Yeah, there's other kids this Oh yeah, this one kid, DJ was like the coolest kid like in my great like at the time they're like, oh, she's surfing and ship like he's like, you know, he's like a good surfer when we were like ten, you know what I mean. So he was killing it. Now he's like a like a storied lifeguard in Oahu. Like he he never strayed from his like beach path as a human being. Now, this is what I'm good at.

A DJ, always a DJ that's you have to swing in too hard, came back down from your choices as a DJ exactly in a way. I'm glad I did not. I did not pursue that name switch and I stayed with Miles and that led me towards them. That kept me on my musical path. So yeah, yeah, very well, DJ could have kept you on a very different music would have been two on the nose. I feel like, you know, and here's DJ DJ, Like, no, come on, I personally love it, but that's not a great think.

Troll DJ names now are like the best, Like there's a guy named Trillbo Swagons who I've seen on bills and like l a DJ Yambai Yobi is another one I love. Like those are just funny, like I would lean into that. But yeah, as a kid, like I remember I was DJ under the name Prime with a one with a one for the eye. Okay on this side, Yeah, what a time to be alive, truly, the early nineties.

I have a long thing I want to talk about that we don't have time for, about the name Michael in the late eighties early nineties and why it was having such a run. I don't have any answer when I was in college, we had to have multiple mics. There was Marcus and Mike's second floor Mike. There was tall Mike, there was short mic. We had to delineate the mics saying got a prefix handle. And also the

most famous humans in America were all named Mike. And then the ninja turtles came along, and the coolest ninja turtle was Michael Angelo. It's what why? And then since then, no, like, not a lot of cool Mike's got Mike Pence. This is a stand up bit I'm working out. Yeah, yeah, go off kick all right? About that is your guaranteed to have a mic and every audience, Yeah, ready, have put plenty in your pocket for that. You get on stage. Hey, so where's Mike Cat. Your name's Mike, raise your hair

right now? Alright, Mike the fun Daddy. Alright, Kayla, We're gonna get to know you a little bit better in a moment. First, one can tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about today. Google aid off

twelve thousand people. Their stock price went up, of course, so we're gonna talk about that and how the real theory on why corporations, why all these tech corporations are firing everyone just like firing cutting so many jobs is because they like the other one did it, and there like, well if they did it, we we should do it. So we'll talk about that. We'll talk about how billionaires are coping with people telling the truth about them, namely

suing them. We'll talk about state houses coming up with just the dumbest, most fucked up ways to oppress non heterosexual people, all that plenty more. But first, Caitlin, we do like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? Okay, two part answer one very quick and brutally honest. Cabinet suspension rails. Guests who's in the middle of putting its new kitchen cabinets are planning the

process of doing so. So yeah, I can't tell you that the search results are exciting, but there are a lot of them. They're quite informative. So if you if you're with me in the journey, I chose the suspension

rail system, you echo into just the chamber nothing. And when you're doing when you're googling that, are you finding like YouTube video that shows you how to do it that you're like speed scrubbing through what's what's your person I was looking specifically is because I was trying to be cheap and buy cabinets that didn't include a suspension rail system. So that I did the thing where I was like, well can I buy something to add to that cabinet? And I was like, now it's an expensive cabinet,

one that has a suspension rail. See how you did the thing? So yeah, that was the path that I've been chasing down. The fun one though, is that for Sunday Sundance Film Festival is happening now big time in my house, as half the house works for the festinates there in Park City now and quite often the category you know online there's a a big breakdown of like what's playing and what's going on, And many years the International Shorts tab is not the most clicked upon tab.

There are certainly competitions or movies that get more interest than that particular slice of the festival. But this year, because of alphabetical coincidence, I think it just worked out right. Truly, it was just supposed to be this way. It's not that they picked this person out, although who knows. But right now for the International Shorts at Sundance, the picture promoting it is of Jennifer Connolly, and I gotta tell you it's peak, and it's peak in stats, it's it's

crushing stats. Folks are smashing to see what's going on with international shorts at Sundance, and I give credit to the face of Jennifer Connelly, which will move mice all over the world. As it turns out, everybody wants to know what she's up to. So congrats to those at Sundance. I was in love with her. Yeah, I mean rockets here. I'm glad that international shorts is good getting some shine. Credit credit be to Jennifer Connelly or not, all high

quality films that deserve of you. And if it's that face that gets in there, well done. Oh that's fine. So somebody, are you are involved in sundancewer your partners, the sweet Y the house? Yeah, okay, got it. For a few years, I've been with the festival and in various capacities, so always fun to watch it growing and it happened and and pick up cool stuff and that's that's cool. Any any news on what's coming other than Jennifer Connolly's face For all of us foreign short film fans,

um I wish that I had clicked beyond it. I, like the rest of the general public, was treats by Jennifer Connelly and literally googled Sun Dance International Shorts Jennifer Connolly. So if you've done the same, welcome to that elite club. Yeah. Do you hear a lot about programming, which means I can't remember what's actually happening and what is just discussed. But it is an honor to just be discussed. What is something you think is overrated? Oh shit? Wait, no,

there was one and they were both food related? Can I do? Can I do underrated? First? Yes, we allow it. I remember it. I'm sorry I had to wait for a ruling from our judge, but yes, yes, I appreciate this grace. I wrote down the word underrat overrated instead of writing down the thing that I think is a So when I tell you that my handwriting is in a hurry, that maybe that what's what's you know, overrated is rushing? See how we rescue this issuation? Is not

taking your time? It seems like I was getting there faster to write down my underrated. But you know what I did then was just wrote down the word underrated. The word also underrated, which I'm just very lucky that I happen to remember, because I decided on my underrated very quickly, and a shepherd a few through a few overrated now which none, none of which I can remember. So don't rush. Rushing is deeply overrated. What is underrated? Celery?

Celery salary? Baby, tell me more? I gotta agree. Are you saying of a big second on this? Are we saying beyond our understandings as just like an easy dipping vegetable and something for the kids, and then obviously vital to like you know you're Mira Poi or like other you know, it's kind of foundational to your cooking. Tell me we're in soup season. Yeah, hit it here in this atmosphere if your fridge is not stocked with some salary or missing out on a key component of making

soup season a huge success. Plus, I didn't know they saying this is mainly garnered from an episode of America's Test Kitchens. To go back and look up what I had had to say about celery, But for a long time it was kind of the only green thing going in the winter. Celery was like a big deal on the holiday table because everything else was like stuffing turkey brown, you know, delicious brown served this like there were special dishes to hold sery thing because sellers. Then a lot

of the holiday dishes like just kind of thrown in. Yeah, the stuffing chunks of celery in there. You look at an old Titanic menu or something and it'll be like celery served seven ways been like creamed. So yeah, it was a champion vegetable. I think it's unsung now. I heard to mention as a kid snack, and it is a delicious kids snack. But grounds don't sleep. The celery is delicious, that will serve you well. I love I

love a celery. Yeah. I rely on ants on a log more than I should as a parent, you know, to get my kids to eat some calories when they're like not wanting to eat whatever thing I've made badly for them. But we never as adults find ourselves in that situation, right, Never have we ever gone through a day lacking calories or energy because we didn't do something simple like wolf down some celery with peanut butter smudged

on it. Well, so I I do that now. I also make myself ants on a log and My only complaint with ants on a log is it takes an entire like bushel of celery for me to feel satisfied. It's like, oh, yeah, I did say it's the only thing you should Yeah. I said it's underrated, not that it should be your chance, Like isn't it's a big assist. They're like some sir, I don't know if it's true, but people like it's the one food that you eat that's like a net negative. Calorically, I feel like iceberg

lettuce is also on this list of things. In the nineties, they told me to eating seventeen magazine when they're like, Hi, we're not going to promote eating disorders in the traditional way. We'll just seed the seed the ground with these subtle

things like hey, what about this, you know what if? Yeah, but yeah, celery, I mean yeah to your point, Like I remember when I would eat it, like I would eat my mom would make French onion dip sometimes and I would eat it with celery, and she used to be like, stop eating half the goddamn tub with every bite of sunn Like it's the only way I could feel could feel filling. Like I was using it as

like a spoon. Basically, I gotta make up for these net negative calories from celery by offsetting them with net positive from the French onion dim building my case that it is underrated. What an excellent conveyance. And that's it, adds Chris. Yeah, it has flavor, but it's like chill. It's not loud. Nature's toastito scoops. Oh see Nature's FreeDOS is FreeDOS. Fritos have three ingredients. Don't forget the friedo is a perfect food. I don't have to tell you

that's underrated. Freedom should already be corn, corn, oreal, salt, salt. It's a it's an Yeah, that's impressive. And two of them are corn based. Yeah, one is salt. It's really good. Hell yeah, what is what something you think is overrated? Oh? Well, rushing before rushing, it's very too fast to remember what you thought about before the writing down the word overrated instead of writing down the thing. Yes, yes, you thought was overrated. Take your time, Take time with well executed mug.

Lift gets you out of it. Oh that mugg is actually also good mug to lift into frame because that's a beautiful mug. Oh thank you. Yeah, is that a something you're making. Here's I live in a place now, so when I have to get things, I get the things that I like, think I've lived for a long time, like well, this could be possibly disposed over the year entirely by accident as I relocate to a new zip code for But now I'm a little bit more deliberate

in my choices. Hence cabinet suspension rails. Right exactly? You got a yetty? Is that you're sipping out it right now? Yeah? That's a nice smug as well. Thank you, Lifetime for life. Never gonna lose it. I got the I got the Rocky Mountain tub tumbler. I bought it at CVS because it could fit thirty two ounces and I was going to a hotel pool party where I had to sneak in alcohol. You just walked up sipping on a giant tumbler. Question,

I said it was water. Oh yeah, you know what I mean, because I guess like that that is a thing. That thing. Yeah, because especially look when you say like a hotel and then they're like yeah, and then we have like a pool side bar and like the drinks or seven thousand dollars the fucker, get your Rocky Mountain tumbler on and then go to the room as you need to. You know, I don't want to put my parents on blast, but when you go on a cruise,

booze can be very expensive, so con checking luggage. So they had essentially they just wore seven days worth of clothes and check the luggage full of bits. It's impressive. All right, let's take your quick break. We'll be right back. And we're back, and there's a there's a hot new trend going around the tech industry, and that's firing thousands and thousands of your employees. Google announced that they're laying off twelve thousand people, which is about six percent of

their global workforce. And first of all, the market was immediately like thumbs up, no notes, great job, and their stock price went up because that is the perverse system of incentives that we live within, and that of course makes the people making the decision to fire people instantly way richer when the stock price goes up, because that's where most of their net worth is tied up for a lot of it at least. But this is just the latest round of layouts for tech workers. The other day,

Microsoft announced they were cutting ten thousand jobs. Shortly before that, Amazon announced massive layoffs, and Google claims that their explanation is how we just hired a bunch of people during the pandemic and now we're in a different economic reality, which, oh,

a better one. No, that's that's the thing. Like, No, this sort of bait and switch the corporate entities do where they're always talking about like the financial outlook is bad, but then they never really like follow through when it's good on doing anything for anyone. But it's always just them announcing that the financial outlook is bad and then laying off people. Because remember, like during COVID, everybody was

like it's an economic apocalypse. And now they're like looking back at that as like the good old days, because but because I've got paid for because buddy just bled out, you know, tracking where that went will be an amusing job for some finance students in the future, but it is. Yeah, I bet that was the wild old days. You could send in a piece of paper and all of a

sudden a bunch of money showed up. But then you sent it another one, and I guess it was fun, like there was on a corporate level, it seemed like there was a giddiness about what was possible, Like we can just fire everybody. We don't have to have offices anymore. Stock is stable, but nothing else in the economy is like, what is happening unreplicatable. I don't know that it was. Corporate entities are like alive, they live forever, but they can't.

I don't know that the virus affected them. Like the human people. They were like they've weakened. It's time for us to get stronger. And yeah, oh no, Terminator was worried about the wrong AI. It's corporations that are becoming for sure. I've been saying that like capitalism. Capitalism and corporations are the singularity, like they're the unkillable thing that is like ingesting all of the minds and intelligence and

just using that to kill any challenger. But yeah, massive corporations yearning for the good old days of the COVID outbreak, when all we heard about during the COVID outbreak was how the economy was is kind of a weird look. And people who speak the language of these people say it's like still a bad move, Like it doesn't make sense to fire this many people because you like a lot oft times you're firing people who you just spent

a bunch of money to like recruit and high. They say, it's like buying high and selling low on your labor because you like really like spend a lot to like recruit people, bring them in and then have collective packages so even get them to sign and stuff like that. Yeah, and then because of like a temporary economic condition, you fire them. And then when things pick up again in twelve months, you're going to be spending a lot of money like trying to get that same quality or even

sometimes those same employees. Back on your insanity of the amount of money companies will spend to pay humans less money, it's out of control, it's in them. I mean the same arguments getting like housing is the same thing. The amount of money we spend to keep people homeless is wild wild. It would be so much cheaper by every measure to just put people in side, in like safe

nice places. What are you trying to say that it costs three times more in Los Angeles to deal with an unhoused person than if we spent the money to find a way to get them in permanent housing, which is one, and then to jail them for being unhoused. On top of that, when we're just putting them inside for the profit of someone. Yeah, it is a I mean putting them inside. It's a statement I probably could have shaped more gracefully as these are people. But it

is a ton for effect. I share you. It's a yeah, one of those well silly conundrant about capitalism that like you need society. It's why I connect economic systems don't work in a vacuum because they're endless, they have no boundaries. They keep expanding. But we live on like a planet. You might know. I do astronomy towards and night. Maybe we've talked about that. I live in Joshua Between now I go out into the park with telescopes, and I talked about space. So I think about this kind of

stuff all the time. Like it's one planet. It is so very small. We have a boundaried amount of resources as much as the land musk. I want to grab an asteroid full of gold, It is not a likely outcome for us and permanent resource development. It's very cool. We can make oxygen on other planetary environments, but it's

not like a sustainable bottle for life. So the expansion of capitalism being limitless is one of those things that's very foolish, and then you need a society decide, like when profit doesn't win, like like with housing, like with yeah it's a it's yeah people, just like on the broad scale thing, like there's that statement by William Shatner where he like went to space and was like and I looked back and I realized, like space is bad out there, there's nothing else for us, and like the

Earth is this amazing, beautiful thing, which I I was like, man, that's a really good point that he just made, and like I I wish I don't know he said. He basically said, you don't you don't want to be out here? Right here is different. Appreciate what you got right thread. Yeah, don't don't start thinking about out here, because this is incredible. It's inhospitable to every way are we have adapted as biology.

Space isn't bad. We are just programmed to live in a certain type of environment and space is different from that environment. We don't think about the fact that the atmosphere is like gas. We live in stew a rich gassy goodness, and space just isn't like that. Our bodies are designed for a certain amount of gravity. Space just has like different, it's it's just different. But we're not gonna do great there. So yeah, the inherent constraints are

one thing. But then this like spinning off of costs is just madness, and it happens within capitalist environments themselves, where like they get fixated on a number, the pennywise plan on foolish game, where like, labor costs money, so

paying less in labor means we make more money. But that is a ridiculous, it's so provably false, and it repeats itself so often that you think will have learned the lesson from history, because it's like the eternal history of humans working for other humans has this balance of like a seesaw tipping back and forth, where labor is a press, labor fights back. Labor is the press. Labor fights back. That wheel has been turning. It's turning right now.

But and like tech is an important place because tech is how we're talking to each other right now. It's how people communicate among the rest of the trade link that's important. Labor, those are important people with important skills that need to be helping us thrive. Go backwards, thinking that we can pay people less to make more. It doesn't work. It doesn't work. But on the shareholder call, they're gonna be like, well, what's the fucking deal? Because

these other companies are getting are acting people. Why aren't you guys? Hire them? Hire them all, hire them, now, hire them and pay them so they don't leave. Hire yourself thirty six thousand incredible employees and make your company incredible which money, and watch your stock price go down a little bit and realize, like, my day to day stock price is not like a way to run the fucking company like that or not. If your plan is to eat the company alive and leave, that's one thing.

But what if your stock goes on because that company is a it's going to live on too. But if you kept making money past the three years that you pull the plug on it, drain it and kill it, what if it actually over thirty years would give you so much more money that it's such a death. I'll take the money up front right now. I'm right now, I'll take the money right now. I don't care about thirty years. I care about right now, that all the

way for just a little more, right, that's right. And so that there is a Stanford business professor who said back in December that the real reason behind all these tech layoffs that you know, that was before a lot of the ones we're talking about, but they had started, and he was like, watch this. They they're all going to do this because everyone else is doing it. And that is how CEO brains work. That's how like the powers that be. I guess it's it's a bad decision.

They're going to like, you know, severance packages cost the money, their unemployment insurance rates increase, productivity drops due to low workplace morale. They're going to when the economy picks back up, like go spend a bunch trying to rehire these same employees.

But tech companies are responding to the market only basically, and they're just it's so basic and just like they engage in imitative behavior because it's like a big fucking social circle where like social contagions like you, well, I don't want I don't want people to be like why didn't you do that? He did that so that I have to do it to like hedge my bets. Basically,

that's how you get everyone in fleece vests. That's how you get the entire City of San Francisco in the s navy blue fleece with the blue color shirt underneath,

leather boat shoes, leatherboatoes. But I mean it's will because again, like to your point, right, like when Lula took office in Brazil when he was like, yeah, man, we're gonna tackle inequality and people starving and the markets fucking sake, because he said because he articulates that, which again, everything is just about the whole thing, which is ignore your human impulse to have empathy and to take care of a problem, because at the end of the day, we're

all just becoming subservient to again the shareholder value, the stock price. And again it's like this, this only leads to the fucking just you know, consumption of every resource that we have and then like emptying out our pockets and me like is the jet here yet? Is the rocket here yet? And it won't be. Yeah, That's why I brought up the shatter thing is because like the long game is like that. I feel like that statement was profound and it also made me realize like they

were like he's suffering from a thing. Lots of astronauts like come back from space with where they're just like, oh my god, it's so bad up there. You guys, we need to like fix all the problems on Earth. We have it completely backwards. But you never hear about that ship because again, the whole thing is this vast, like hive intelligence of capitalism that is only telling you the thing that is going to accelerate consumption and like create this overall narrative where we have to get off

the planet and create more more worlds to consume. Essentially, it's it's like being inconvenience that like your roof has like a leak in it, and you start building another house and you're like, wait, what do you doing. You're like, well, my my other house has a leak in the roof, and I don't want to fix this imthing that building that second house is so good for the economy. You

don't understand. Yeah, I think the amount of people you're gonna employ by building another house than you But again it's the why not why tackle the issue, Like why not tackle the issue of the faulty roof, which is doable, rather than being like, no, fuck it, We're going all in on getting the funk out of this house and building another one next door, Like yeah, like what you're talking about, it's like, just just take the fucking time

to fix that. It's it's manageable, but it just takes a different way of thinking around the like well if I do that, then there's like I just solve it right there and then there's not some like continuous problem. Yeah, you hit something. It is a poison because like wanting the idea that humans want to explore off the planet we live on. It's like as old as people like don't stop looking at it has been put like that

urge is pure. It is impure to think that we want to go there to take diamonds to bring back to here, Like that is insane. That's so that's so crazy. But the idea that we are explorers is not is not crazy. And and listen to the people who use this marvel of like space travel to go up there get a perspective that only like a handful of humans ever get and be like, yo, you are we are all fucking up and like you can you can see it from up there, like somehow your spirit can like

see it and it's really bad. And and they pay their bodies are their strange. It's a long term what astronauts do has a long term costs that we're getting better at understanding. But like it's not just bad for us. We're not designed all the every condition is not what we're designed for. Props are getting good. Way to go, perseverance, keep looking for stuff in those rocks. Yeah, exactly, show us life on Mars. I just want to see what happens.

I just want to see what happens if we could find evidence of bacterial life, but I just want to see what we do. We'll bring it back at them so excited. We'll bring it back and it'll wipe us out as it was scripted. Are hubriskly came too much? Yeah, bring it home, Bring it home, Bring it home. All the ecosystems are devastated, and you're like, a fuck, I knew it. I knew that was bad. It's probably bad.

It's probably that. Probably that probably bad. They did, Like that is a big thing they do, the quarantine after after the moon landing, Like they were like, tubes are the cleanest things that we've ever made. The tubes on that little Mars rover are clean, baby clean, and they

are getting sealed up. We are. They stay in space for like a while yeah, they don't an well and and I did wanna you know, just follow that story up with a story about why that will be the last time that we ever talked about rich people or

corporations because now they are suing us. Yeah, not us specifically, but they're going after people who like to connect the dots out loud on the influence of money and battle will work or also known as skateboard b uh is being is as that I just decided to do that as a Farrell reference. But we all know, we know he gets down on that skateboard. We saw him get down in that word Burger parking on um. But you know he's being sued by this natural gas magnate in Texas.

Why did he do something criminal? Oh? He pointed out the fact that the Natty gas pimp gave Governor Greg Abbott one million dollars right after the governor signed a bill into law that created a loophole for natural gas operators to be able to opt out of mandated winter ization of their infrastructure. Well, what does that even mean? It's not like that could ever harm me, know, chains on my tires? Who gives this ship to be? Like?

How bad could winter in Texas, did anything bad happen a couple of winters ago were properly winterized infrastructure could have prevented the death of hundreds and led to the robberies people that's right, not dieing their homes. There was And then Abbott signed a bill like a few months later that made it seem like he was addressing the issue of like the winter storm, and he was like, I want to make it look like I'm advocating for Texans by saying we got it. We actually have to

get serious about mandating. Are like mandating like the proper winterization of infrastructure and like not allowing these operators to to price gouge people. But again he left a loophole for the natural gas gang, which is why the Tech and the Texas Tribune points to the natural gas operators as quote the primary cause of outages during that time. So what the fund is wrong on and what is

this distraught man to do for better? Or Rourke saying things like this guy's influencing the governor or bribing him. Oh well, he just pointed that out, the Greg Abbott thing. He was just like yeah, yeah, he's like look at it. He's like he's carving out loopholes for his buddy. This guy gave a million dollars. You think this isn't connected. This is directly relates to his business and way of making money. And this is this is a kind of

corruption where it got. You know, like any any person who's like running for office with that sort of set of ideals is going to articulate. Well, his lawyers now are saying like, well, you know what, they said that this natural gas tycoon experience quote mental anguish from comments, ads and social media posts in which a works campaign suggested that the money was a reward for Abbott going easy on him? What else? Tell us what else? Honey,

let's soothe your words. Quote better. Roorke told millions of his followers that Warren engaged in bribery, corruption and extortion, and that he profited from the death of his fellow Texans simply because as Mr Warren gave up perfectly legal campaign contribution to the candidate of his choosing, Governor Abbott. When you look at the comments that his followers put in on his tweets, they believe him. They believe that Mr Warren is a criminal that is engaged in profit

over the lives of Texans. Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, so your profits. See the reason is if you spent the fucking money to properly protect your infrastructure and prevent the power outages for people which wouldn't have led to their deaths and and you know, after the after the people,

that's the wild thing. Is not like a thing where it was like hindsight, we would have really addressed that fucker they are doing this and like paying him a million millions of dollars campaign contribution after they've they're funk up.

Has already led to people dying, has already led to like a national news like just disaster, like something that everybody was talking about, and they're like, yeah, okay, So the next thing we need to do is, uh is make sure that nothing, no consequences are ever felt from this. Like I don't know, I'm looking for some silver lining. Remember that are perfectly balanced judicial system is it runs

on a on a system of precedent. Now, if we could establish a precedent that mental languish is enough to sue a politician for, then perhaps perhaps we're onto something here. Uh maybe even cover I've experienced mental languish from every over graph fee that I've ever experienced, maybe a little

class action suit in that direction is in order. I've experienced, you know, mental languish, and well I remember, you know what, I was in college and I had to get all those loans because like we we made tuition in a student feast in the California public university system. What I remember that being source of mental languish. Maybe the half million students a year that were in school with me in the state of California would like to get together and see if there's a little something we can do

to compensate ourselves for what we suffered. You know what I'm saying. I just but if we could start suing people for mental languish and that I I just think that maybe we're onto something here the mental languish. And if the judicial system wasn't run by billionaires in business,

you never know, let's let's open the doors. But again, like many people are saying, like obviously it's a bullshit slap lawsuit, and it's you know, meant to chill the speech of candidates or anyone who's wanting to point out that we live in this fucking oligarchy. So you know, there's that, and it could be a great blueprint for other you know, very sensitive earth fuckers who don't want to hear people accurately describe their actions. But yeah, it's

it's it's a little dystopian language. Five. Yeah, you told the truth about me, so I'm suing you is just And I mean when you also look at it to this guy, like this gas guy, like he's in every he's making sure everybody's paid, you know what I mean, Like Ken Paxton, the Attorney general. After the storm, he's like, we gotta look into these gas companies, man, what the funk was that storm about? It looks like they were gouging,

but the price gauging was out of control. But since then he's refused to say, like what's going on with that investigation? And then if you look at the donations, the same guy, Kelsey Warren's given at least two hundred thousand dollars to Paxton throughout his career, so it's like he stays on the good side of him. And then also the Texas Railroad Commission, which is the body that oversees like oil and gas and stuff in the state, you know, and like talks about price caps and things

like that. He's given like over three nine thousand to like Texas Railroad Commission candidates in the last decade, So you know, I mean, if anything, it's just one of these weird things where you see how it works. But again they're like, we have to prove the intent in court, you know what I mean, Like he was just giving to it, like and it's it's this nebulous language that

is allowed to for them to have a defense. We're going, I'm merely participating in the civics prod the civic process here and just giving money to a preferred candidate without really you know, but we're not gonna actually analyze what that means, right, And I think that's what this is what this lawsuit could end up boiling down to. Anyway, he's being better work, he's being suited for a million dollars. I think better works just mad he's not a baller

like this guy. You know. Yeah, that's and I think that's what this guy is saying. He's like, it's just all these haters. They hate that we're ballers. Al I feel like we're this is the I mean, Chad's are finally stepping up to assert their dominance in court. Which it's about time I can see that the visual representation that this is the apex of the white mail. This is this is it, This is h Yeah, we're not getting every Every billionaire looks like flassid wet sausage. But

that's it's just something that happens. I guess when you have that much money. Speaking of flaccid wet sausage, we we on a fucking flaccid wet sausage. All stark at this guy's picture, and I misunderstand. I I saw in the document which you so kindly prepare for guests there you've You've included a photograph of a certain gentleman. And I'm still him for a billionaire because he has billionaire body, which is about the compliment I could give him, which

I think we all recognize is not princey. And he has like he has like that vibe like when you're so privileged, like you still look like a baby because you've never had to live still, like you're not just surprised to hear the stories about with his haircut, that dodgy haircut. The haircut, Oh my god, yeah, it looks like, yeah, I got it. Who's the owner of the Raiders. Who has the bowl cut? Yeah Davis with the haircut. Yeah,

not Al Davis. Yeah, Al Davis. Is I think it's Al Davis's son maybe Oh yeah, yeah, he's got that. He's got that really wild jump like he's got a Caesar with bangs basically, yeah, like real real guaranteed he wasn't like giving an edge up. But yeah, yeah, the the person I'm talking about, Mark Davis, Al Davis, this one so worth looking at him and the gentleman we're about to talk to when we come back, not talked to talk about. No, we got him, we got him,

We got got him on the Horse World. Man, I've got to have you on the show. All right, we'll be right back, and we're back. And state houses where all the good ship is going down these days. Yeah, in the wake of the election, all the state houses were busy finding ways rap elections since their whole idea has been stopped to steal. And then after the mid terms, it seems like the Republican's new obsession is the continued dehumanization of the LGBTQ community. Nothing to worry about their

never yeah, yeah, I don't don't. If we got rampant anti semitism, homophobia. Yeah, yeah, this all ends, this is all gonna end. Well yeah, but like as it stands, right, there have been over one hundred sixty bills introduced in twenty twenty three that are meant to discriminate against drag shows or trans people. They're fucking like they're they're putting the pedal to the metal. One particularly stupid bill comes from the aforementioned dick head from North Dakota. It looks

wearing three hairpieces. I don't mean to come for the man, but I'm saying that most of the trans community could really help, you know, how to lay a wig. Maybe like on the side of the rainbow. We can just have a US fix it. You are serving, Mark Davis, Yeah, you're serving. You're serving a white man cosplaying as Maya from Pen fifteen, but in the worst possible way, like you're like, hold on, what the fund is? This vibe a horrible insult to Maya from fifteen. I mean it's

a bulk, you know what I mean? My looks she's not trip but not just so we're right, but that's a so that This man's name is David Clemens, and he just introduced a bill that would generate fift hundred dollar fines for using people's preferred pronouns using their preferred pronouns, Yes,

require you. And what he means is that this would apply to any quote any entity receiving state funding, including a public school and institution under the control of the state Board of Higher Education and a state agency or office. They're basically saying, like, if you spend the time to acknowledge someone's pronouns, you will be fined. We're only going to be just completely We're not respecting anybody or any or what how who they are people. That's that's the

fine quote. And again he goes even further. In the event that these biggots have like terrible gay dar or like, you know, a way to suss people out, he said, quote if sex, gender or gender, gender identity, or gender expression is contested, determination is established by the individuals. De oxy riboonucleic acid cool. So DNA testing, Yeah, they're so

good with that. You have the state testing people's DANNA on demand is something typically that people who favor less government control are like all about This aligns perfectly with the general philosophy. Yeah, yeah, and there's already like other advocates have pointed out, it's like, what if you like, chromosomes aren't always straight up male or female, So what do you how are you going to even enforce this?

This is just like some ignorant guys thing of being like, well, if they don't like it, we'll test their blood kind of thing. And it's like what yeah for girl for a girl? Like and what if what if someone like an intersex person wouldn't have like a traditional DNA profile where they could be like this is man, this is or whatever it is. Again, this is so fucking backwards.

And this is on top of other bills in the state that already banning gender firm and care for trans for trans kids, or banning trans girls from playing sports. They're just they're piling on all this nonsense, and even the their own state Judiciary committee said this bill was unlikely to work because it's written with tears and crayon and is also poor so poorly worded. They're even like, how are you going to enforce this? But this is all their ship, like all the way they're all based

on like a fucking Facebook post. They didn't do any like follow up research on It's anytime you talk to one of these bigots. They're just they their ideas are thin. There is paper thin. I mean, their commitment is strong, but like they don't they haven't like looked into any of this ship. It's just all based on something that their cousin fucking wrote on Facebook. Yeah again, like this is not a winning formula, you know what I mean for candidates in the mid terms, it was only scoring

culture war points on TV. Like, it wasn't putting. It wasn't like, oh, this is the this is like the platonium rob that will power the GOP to like, you know, like insane majorities. And again they continue down this hate

path full steam. I mean, not to mention like already, like the dickheads on Congress, they're already bringing up a fucking fair this fair tax bullshit again, or they want to have a flat sales tax or a place like every other tax we have and another another giveaway to like the wealthy that they're just like, they're just you know, there's no real direction aside from create as much outrage as possible, score as many culture war points as possible,

because actual actual legislating is far from a priority. It's just to create I don't know for whatever reason they're they're cling whatever gains they felt were made by people who are not cis head Christians in the last twenty years. Yeah, it's just confusing. It's a confusing Like I don't I could look for indicators and other societies that have freaked out about this and then fallen apart, which is what

happens over and over again. But the obsession about it is so virulent, Like people are so angry about gender expression. It's an I don't understand the anger or what it's actually about. It's like it's like you're having you know, on a grand scale, we're having a fight that where we're screaming about a teapot. But if we were in the couple, we would know it's not about the teapot, Like what is this about? What are you mad about? Like, I just don't quite get it. And this isn't like

a coming out. You can look at me and know that I don't express gender along strong binary lines. I've never been DNA tested. I have no idea what the results would be. Unlike woman with big air quotes, I just fall somewhere in the middle of my gender expression is leatherman like I have cargos like somewhere floating in a purpose like if and I feel like a coward sometimes. If they was in popular usage, that's probably what I would use. But I'm not interested in engaging in a

linguistic fight. I see it more as just like clumsy English than anything else, like other languages are better at expressing the fact that gender is part of language is very funny and weird anyway, I don't care, but it's terrifying. I travel less and I do live in a conservative area now, but like I'm aware of being clocked in just this way that I know people walk away around with in a because you know, their expression means that folks are I in the town. And if they're so mad,

I don't well. I think it's because everything, everything we see is it's trying to reset the scales. So like white sis head Christian hegemony is maintained, and every group that we are, every group we now offer consideration towards, is another group these people see themselves having to bow to because they're not They didn't used to have to bow to be Like, oh, I didn't realize about you know, uh, you know, systemic racism. Oh god, stop shoving someone in

the bathroom? Is that submission? Well, I think again, for them, it's like, why do I have to now consider pronouns? What the funk is this? I'm I'm at the top of the sociological food chain where I shouldn't have to My consideration shouldn't go downwards. Ever, I'm here, y'all fucking deal with it, And so what now I have to be mindful about, Well, what what white supremacists policies have had in this country? And I'm not fucking doing that.

That's bullshit. I don't want to talk about critical race theory. What you're saying now I have to defer to somebody because they said that they their gender expression is this that Now I'm not doing that. It's everything. I'm not doing that. I'm not doing that. I'm not extending I'm

not extending my empathy towards these people. So now the natural instinct is to, well, then man, vaporize the funk out of them, like, start making it the law that actually considering them is illegal, that studying critical race theory is illegal. And again we're not even saying this was even being taught to fucking children. But they're putting laws on the books to be like, don't even fucking talk about ap African American studies in Florida. There's no value.

There's no value to the right exactly. It's it's just it. It has no value to somebody who is not who They're only goal is to say, I'm only looking for reminders of my power as a cis head white person in America. If I have to say I'm sorry to someone, no, no, not, we're sucking up. Yeah. The entire civilization was around their ignorance for decades, you know, like it was like we've just what is polite is whatever you are comfortable with, as a says had white man. And that gave me

the shivers. And that's another I'm sorry. I just put a picture on another legislator from Mississippi who was again trying to ban like trying to ban doctors from providing gender affirming care. And this guy looks like literally what you just talked about, Jack, someone who was built in

the fires of ignorance. Yeah, and it will fight for every opportunity to make sure he's allowed to stay ignorant, keep his children ignorant, and make sure nobody ever pushes his hair back to see where his hairline actually starts, because he's got the he's got the wild flat people bangs that like come down into his eyes in a way that I'm not fully buying. Yeah, but I mean,

but this is where we're at. There, we're watching in real time the like legislative like the legislative manifestation and at every level of calling back this sense of like dominance and that there and trying to recreate a world that's like fucking Jim Crow era shit, which is like

I don't know, Yeah, that's them, that's their thing. That's not my problem, and I'm not and I don't need to begin thinking I have to make considerations in my day to day life about people I'm not really like not being exposed to or educated on, and I'm ignorant of. So the natural reflex isn't to learn or to open my heart, is to close it down and figure out

how I can legislate my way out of learning anything else. Yeah, And we live in a you know, civilization where the rewards go to these people, like they still go to those people this guy is and fucking Congress, like the you know the guy you just showed a picture of is you know on showtime right now. It's a pretty good documentary the ATTICU prison riot, which I didn't know a lot about, so I was glad to get some better inside in. But it is a pretty in humane

response to people asking to be treated like humans. And yeah, I mean the folks with the boots wore those boots right on out of that prison, back to their homes, back to their families, and the people inside to prison that it was, you know, people spoke out to ask to be treated like people, and those folks who spoke out were specifically targeted and taken down. It is, it was.

It's such a stark I think perhaps some of when I look at history and civil rights in the United States, I wondered why this prison riot hadn't made its way to the forefront in the way some other events had. And it is almost because some other events have a deeper degree of subtlety, like talking about who can ride the bus has a more humane level of subtlety. The ATTICU prison riot is on the nose in a way

that leaves you with nosebleed. And that's important because things are that as is as it was, you know, we can have a debate in a classroom about that period of history. Debate is and rich, but you know, you can talk in a classroom about buses. It's really hard to talk about what happened in that place and the lack of aftermath sort of the facts that Basting changed. It's a worthy watch if you want to, you know, just get got it, have your eyes shad upon by

the truth. Truly. Yeah, the there's so many stories like that. We we should just do a whole series that's just like the stories that you will hear from American history and be like, holy ship, why isn't this the first thing they fucking taught me? Like there's an episode of

The Dollar. There's an episode of The Dollar about the Boston bus riots that is like the most damning thing about like how racist Boston is and just like massive you know race riots started by you know, wildly racist policies and racist people in Boston, and it just doesn't get brought up. It's like not a thing that you learn about in school. I think, to Caitlin's point, it's always the ones that are so obvious, you know what I mean, Like like I didn't know the police dropped

a bomb on people in Philly. Yeah, I was, you know, I was like, wait, what offer Hellica, what the fuck? Really? You know what I mean? And it's and you look at everything and you're like, oh my god, these uh yeah, that just looks like an extension of all the other terrible racist violence we've seen that we were supposedly moved past, but you know, it keeps popping up in these other ways.

But yeah, we'll see, uh yeah, it is. It is interesting to see how how we look back at this period because you know, anytime the society, let's a group become vulnerable and you know they begin picking away at it, that's truly the beginnings of some even more awful ship. And we've been experimenting with this same way of doing business for fucking ages now, so it's like really just harding the one The one thing I will say is that with that one specific bill in North Dakota, a

lot of people came out to like oppose it. Not one person came to like support the bill at all. And what I mean even like the people in that committee were like, yeah, this isn't there's no way, this is like, this is not going to pass. But it's still going to the Senate floor for a vote. Um like in North Dakota. So again we'll see. But this

is all. This is all part of these people wanting to keep up the regularly scheduled programming of saying like, hey, we can legislate our way to the top again by the humanizing and mothering our fellow here North Dakota. This is my plea. If I understand correctly, you or the least touristed state in the nation. And if that's not true, I apologize. Also, look at what just happened in your statehouse. We all have a lot to talk about. But I'm pretty sure North Dakota that not enough people come to

see you. I'm pretty sure it's South Dakota. Dakota has bad mountain with the people on it, and that's what everybody goes to see. You. North Dakota are sitting there full of beautiful spaces that could be full of gaze and their duel income, no kid lifestyle. Imagine the resort properties, Imagine the tourist dollars that you could tray in with those snowbirds. I'm just saying you're missing where the money is.

Those grand shows people just throw money, did you know that at a drag show where the transit dance, people literally just throw American dollar bills at one another and just bring that money in there. You go, Caitlin as always truly a pleasure having you on the show. Where can people find you? Follow you? All that good stuff? I guarantee shirts of course. I also uh D fiance grab a T shirt. Amazing podcast in addition to this

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noticed that and again I'm sorry to say this. Sometimes women don't finish their cans of sparkling water as frequently as men do. And that was his take. And I have as somebody who I don't know, the thing is, I don't even finish my cans of sparkling water. I think it's uh. I think this is this affects everybody the same way. Although Her Majesty loves to leave around like loose half cans with two water. Yeah, I think I'm the notorious for the one sip ditch, so I

have no stake in this argument. How do you feel? How do you sip? Because like I get it too. Sometimes I opened a can. I'm like, oh, should I need this? But I only really needed to sip. And then I'm like the first big sip that hurts, and I'm like, I'm gonna leave it on the kitchen counter. I'm gonna get back to this can. Of course I am. And then were some of the fishes. This cannon not

open another one, which is funny. This is also how I came across the thing about Jack when I used to say, leave a half opened passion fruit Lacroix in your car, and its smell like a new car. That's again straight off of me. Not finishing fucking cans of fucking sparkling water. I feel like this is everybody does, everybody's problem. It's not it's not my problem. My problem is the opposite. I drink everything that's in front of me. That's why I can't drink out. I drink so much,

so fast. I am a thirsty, thirsty man all the time. And if you put anything in front of me, unless it's room temp water, which I can I can kind of take your leave. But basically anything cold I will I will drink it. So I drink water. We're We're good.

You can have everything. I see. You're too hot. I think it also has to do with the fact that I'm so sweaty that like my body is just naturally like ever since I was young, was always just like I gotta get, gotta get more fluids, Go go, go, go go, so I can win chucking contests of lots of varieties. And it's not something I'm proud of. It's just a fact. Matt Lee tweeted, love kicking clicking on the new for you tabs so I can hear from

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