Hello the Internet, and welcome to Season to seventy four, episode one of Dirty Lei's Eye Dies You, a production of My Heart Radio. This is a podcast where we take a deep dive into America's share consciousness. And it's Monday, February six three. My name is Jack O'Brien a k A. I am also known as Potatoes O'Brien, and I'm thrilled to be joined today by a very special guest co host who is always joining us in a way. He's an artist, a musician, and the producer of this very podcast.
It is super producer Justin Connor. Yo, Yo, what up? It's your boy, Justin Connor a k A hype beast, Harry a k A childless MILLENNI your man. I'm here. I'm coming out. I'm stepping from behind the scenes and uh jumping into the t DZ pool. It's guys, how are you there? We go? What's up? Man? This is it's it's long overdue, It's long overdue. Yeah, I have a lot to say. God. To feel like you're just shaking shaking some some things off. Sounds so free. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
you're You're gonna see a new me today. You know you've got the shipped to get off your chest. Bro, you don't even know the half of it. Let's go, let's get into it. Well, you are here for a banger of a guest, because in our third seat we have one of our favorites, hilarious stand up comedian actor writer who's written issues of Batman for a little outfit called DC Comments and dropped a new stand up special called Burry Me Loose a year ago. Please welcome back
to the show, the brilliant, the talented. You're doing travel, what's happening? I'm back. It's me. You're doing a A k A. I didn't prepare a bunch of nicknames. I wish you would said something upfront before we got to this point. And now I'm embarrass almost embarrassed myself. That was off the top of the dome. I stumbled a little bit, but we got it. Yeah. I do feel like that's a that's a lofty endeavor to take on off the cuff, you know. Yeah, that's a big risk
you talk. I respect that. Hey man, I'm here to I'm here to take risk. That's what I do. Ye. Sorry, my voice cracked when I was shouting her name. I apologize. That's okay, I have that undignified. Yeah, I just get I get nervous, you know, it's okay, that's okay. By the way, I'm coming to you live from my Batman chair. You probably can't see it because it's dark as hell,
But I got the Batman death Batman lighting. Oh yeah, yeah, I got the little you know, I got the screen shot from into the Spider Verse behind me, we're all black nerded out over here. Yeah, you got a bisexual lighting situation going, yeah, very perfect, right now, definitely going. Yeah, if Batman was in high school, all right, yeah, I'd love to see it. Are you pitching something? Oh, it's already pitched balls in your court? Oh alright, let's talk
after the after the recording. Let's go. Are you is the d C stuff ongoing? Are you still still writing Batman stuff or at? What? And what was that like? You know it? Yeah, it's ongoing. I just uh, I just finished my second one end of last year. You know, it's one of those things. It's cool, it's a badge. They're out there. It's it's a very it's a very exciting thing, but you know it, uh, it also doesn't pay the rent. So I'm like, you know, it's fun,
it's cool, but I'll do another one. When I do it, let me. I might be putting you in the hot seat here, But yeah, what comic books did you really gravitate towards when you first were coming up in the game. I was a manga kid growing up, so I was reading like Naruto and One Piece and all this stuff. I actually grew up on like comic book cartoons more than anything. I was like watching the the Spider Man animated series, Batman animated series, X Men. That's like what
really got me into it. And so like it was a little weirder that they asked me to do this up front because I was like, oh, I read them, but I don't, like, I'm not a huge nerd like that. Well, how how did they find you? Because I was doing anime videos on YouTube? Got you? Got you? Oh wow, that's really cool. Yeah. I I also came up similar the the X Men cartoon, the mask of the Phantasm Batman film. I probably wore that copy out. Yeah, a lot of that. I wasn't super into the comics. Um
that was more of my sister's bag. But now that I see They're coming back with the James Gunn slate
of the Brave and the Bold title in there. That really got me excited because you know, the for you know, the comic book nerds out there, you guys are familiar that Brave and the Bold title coming from the Silver Age and Golden Age of of comics is really harkening back to like the foundation of comics, and I kind of I'm missing that with you know, the popcorn flicks and and Marvel and you know, I kind of I kind of enjoyed that, but I want to get back to the roots of like, you know, not just the
entertain factor, but the philosophy of comics. Yeah, I mean, bro, I just I feel like, like a lot of people, I'm living the life that I wanted to live as a teenager right now, you know, where we're still semi in a pandemic and I'm just I torentted. But like the entire x Men Batman catalog, just all of these kids wanted to read My whole life torrented very legally obviously,
you know, for you know, for the law purposes. Yeah, I'm just like finally getting to to like a baseline level of knowledge that I wish I had my whole life that I felt like I didn't have access to. You know, I feel like there's a bunch of nerds that that grew up that like didn't have access to the ship that they liked. I was. I was just gonna say, there's so many people. It's it's hard to keep up now, especially as a nerd now. I mean it's the you go online, there's so many takes I
I can't keep up. People are bringing up, you know, superheroes like, oh, I've been a fan of this guy for thirty years. I'm like, I've never heard of this dude in my life. The research is intense nowadays, for sure. Yeah, you know, it's one of the craziest imbalances of power. Is like going out as someone who's now written Batman, and I like, my my view on Batman is that like,
dude is a fascist. He's a whole fascist. He's a I think that's very obvious, and it's and it's hard to write for for him and sort of think about the themes of it, rather than like diving into this brooding character and like romanticizing him and then like going out and tweeting stuff like that and getting responses from people that I know have read more of the comics than me, but they still think, like, no, he's not
a fat he's not a coup. What are you talking about? No, he does it, And so I can't like argue with them. But even though I know the real world politics more than they do, but they know that they know that fake world politics more. It's so like it's such a bizarre Batman asks the question, what if there was a cop that was competent, didn't sunk up every single time that he tried to do. I mean, he sucks up. He focks up a lot, Yeah, a lot. Recidi. The
recidivism rate of Batman is through the room. Yeah, it's ridiculous. Yeah, everybody's just right back. He also kidnaps children and puts them in harm's away like all the time, so you know, yeah, that's not super fun either. Yeah, there's a deep, deep commentary about Batman that is not even getting touched on. What if there was a cop who was like all the other cops, except he dressed as a bat that's the question that Batman. Yeah, all right, you know, we're
gonna get to know you a little bit better. In a moment. First, we're gonna tell our listeners a couple of the things we're talking about. There's like more reports coming about the classified documents, like no, I guess there are no classified documents, and Biden's beach house, but they're looking for classified documents and Pence's house, and like I just I've come to the realization and I don't give a ship and have never given a ship about this
story at all. I think the mainstream media has kind of misjudged this one. So we'll we'll talk about that. We'll talk about jobs are booming, you guys, wages are not, so we will talk about that. We will talk about the balloon that was traveling over the western United States for much of the end of last week. I've got so many questions about this. It's very strange. The video
is fun and creepy. Jordan Peel at it again. Yeah, it does look like a Jordan Peel, you know, footage like it's a viral marketing for the next Jordan Peel movie. So we'll talk about all of that plenty more. But first, you do we like to ask our guests, what is something from your search history? Oh, I got two things from my search history. I was just double checking because I saw somebody posts they were reading a Glorious Tyme book, and I had to double check that she really worked
with the CIA because I read that recently. So I google Glorious dim steynham c I A. And then I also for some reason googled uh Weeks Lilo poach Lee, which is the Aztecs sun god that they would sacrifice people too. I was doing research for a tweek Glorious Stynam worked for the CIA. Yeah, it was the whole thing. I think she was in the I think sixties and seventies, and she was like weirdly proud of it. She go to Princeton now she went to Smith Uh yeah. Yeah.
But all the all those people didn't like I think there's a lot of speculation that, like Woodward and burn Steam, we're working for the CIA frequently, Like all the all the celebrities from the sixties and seventies that we're supposed to be smart, I feel like a lot of them were working for the CIA. Yeah, I mean, I may I read a whole Twitter threat about how Dave Chappelle's mom may have been complicit in uh Patrisala moona was assassination.
So I feel like, so it's so much more widespread than we Yeah, at this point, like what celebrity isn't the cop or affiliated with cops? Like yeah, it's fucking every single day we come up with something new. Oh no, man, it runs deep. Chris Pratt, Chris Pratt, I'm saying, Oh, yeah, the jury's yeah, jury has been decided on that. Oh you don't think he's cool? Actually, you know what, I feel like if Chris Pratt was c I A. He would be way more open about it, right, yeah, he
would be dragging to everyone. Yeah, that's right. If you the new Jack Reacher, Yeah yeah, yeah, Chris Pratt is a cop and Jim from the Office is c I A. I think yeah, yeah, yeah, it feels like it. What do you find out about the sun God? What was the what was the tweet you're writing? Oh, I was just confirming the spelling. Really, I like, I guess I had read. I had listened to a whole podcast about
the fall of the Aztec Empire. It was it was a whole thing that was it was tweeting about how the US practices human sacrifice, but they just do it way over away longer period of time, and it was just like, could you just cut my heart out with a city and blade? I would really rather that. Just throw my Yeah, just throw my body down a pyramid while the while the blood flows down like a normal person. You're fucking weirdo dignified yea, yeah, just like at least
if you're gonna do this, like, let me look cool. Yeah. Yeah, that's why I feel I have Mel Gibson do it right, Yeah, apocalyptic apocalypto on it. Yeah, yeah, I love that. I think that was a ko con in that one, right mind. Yeah, I thought you were talking about Wakonda Forever. Oh no, no, I think both. Yeah, I mean yes, yes it was. He wasn't both. Yeah, And the sacrifices didn't work. It seems like for like the they didn't get the desired result. You know what, I would say, probably not. I would
say probably not given a given even the results. Yeah, what if something you think is overrated? Um, I mean you know, I'm on the I'm on the internet a lot. I feel like people are very aware of the state of the world right now, and I would say what's overrated right now is all that dumer ship. Keep keep pushing all this doomer ship like there's no way out of this situation that we're in and it but there absolutely is. You know what I'm saying, We can do
we can do stuff. We can still save the world if we if we put our minds to it. It's a silly way to say that, but you know, it's a it's a sound bite, it's not a comprehensive plan. As someone who who can fall into that dooom er spiral, sometimes I'm very anxious about the where the world is going. How do you keep yourself in check? Like how do you make sure that you know you carry that positive attitude of like, oh no, no, we can figure this out.
We can find a way through this. I mean, first of all, I put the Mark Fisher down every I feel like people are reading the Mark Fisher too much that capitalist realism shit. And I just like, I mean, I got I got homies I work with talk to every day just about like actionable things that we can actually do at our level, you know what I'm saying, and that if we if we actually put mind and practice to all these things, that they can expand out and said examples for Shade that can spread out across
the world, you know, global implications. Yeah, for sure, the good news doesn't get a lot of light shined on it. And I mean there's so many different things like the The example my sister likes to bring up a lot is like, I don't know, she did some project on like acid rain and stuff, and now that was a I mean that was a big deal. I don't think I've heard that term even once in the last like ten years or so. But you know, the climate, like you know, making statues porous and stuff and melting the
foundation of shipped down. That was a real, real, real big problem. And uh we we rehearsed the Yeah, the ozone layer, the whole, one of the holes has been completely closed. I think there's still two left. But yeah, it's there's a lot of positive things that have happened, but we just it's I think, you know, with the whole, if it bleeds, it leads thing, you kind of you have a hard time some especially me, I have a
hard time even believing in the good stuff. Like even when I read a headline like oh that's good news, it kind of just fades into the background so quickly because the urgency I think is on the the extremely like violent stuff. Yeah, well there's the urgency and there's people thinking on this massive scale that's incomprehensible to them.
You know what I'm saying. It's like people think about things in terms of like what the president can do, what the even what local government can do, Like you still don't have you still don't have control over local government like that, you know, you can organize people around you, Like I got a bunch of neighbors that I still don't know that I could just go knock on a bunch of doors, organize us on that level and just like just you know, grow out from there. Also, people
talk about acid rain. People don't talk about how much fun acid is. It's a good time think about it, and you can think about it in those terms. Oh man, if that's what acid rain was, the world would be a much better place. So sick, it would be so sick. A friend of mine actually was talking about how like the Western imagination is obsessed with the big solution always.
Like the example he was using was like the Trojan Horse was like they everybody was fighting and die in this war and then they came up with this like one big idea that like solved everything the trojan worse that like tricked the people and it was like this one big and like that's rarely how history moves. Like usually the way history moves is like you try a bunch of different things and like slowly like and funk
up a bunch. And it's not like push all your chips in on one solution that you are like reasonably sure of, because a lot of this ship we're reasonably
sure of ends up being wrong in a long term. Yeah, And people have this idea that history necessarily or progress necessarily moves forward, you know what I'm saying, And uh, if you think about that in terms of the entire scope of human history and how we're just kind of a blip in all of humanity even let alone like the history of the universe, it just promotes this like inertia because you think, you think everything necessarily gets better, so I don't have to do anything right now, or
I can don't do anything. It's it promotes this like like this predetermination, like a lack of imagination. Yeah, I feel like it's always that that fucked up my imagination when I like I can't when I got this idea in my head that it was like all just like on this set course of like slow progress. Everything is getting better, Science has it covered, Science is going to figure it all out, and the world just became like
a bunch less interesting to me. And then when I got older and out of like the public school and you know, even college, that's when I realized, oh, it's like a mess out there, and it's very like mysterious and interesting. Just gonna say, like, I think it's the part of the problem lies in the way, you know, we're taught history in the US, like in our public schools.
We I think America has a problem with idol worship, and and we pick out these figures in history and like they portrayed them to you in history class, like these are icons, Like they're bigger, They're much bigger than you. They're larger than life. And I kind of got the point.
I'm like, oh, JF will come along to save us at some point or something, and that's not gonna happen um, And I I think JFK will come along and save us, will declaring war on different overseas and sexually assaulting all of his employees like they really they really whitewash a lot of the stuff. But and but as a kid,
I'm like, oh, it's taken care of. And I think there's a there's some sort of if I can give them as much benefit of the doubt as I can possibly give, there's some sort of benevolence in that of like, I'm trying to paint this world from my kids where they don't have to worry. Like I'm teaching him about this this dangerous, dramatic like war where many people died, but you know there are good people and that's ultimately what wins over. And you know that's not necessarily the case.
And I think that's dangerous rhetoric when you start making it, you know, to the point of like, you know, perfect example, MLK, the U. S. Government told him to kill himself and then we hold him up as a icon at the same time after his death. It's so two faced. Yeah, books person for many great brands in the United States, you know, and lots of lots of commercials. Yeah, might have been the first place I saw, Yeah when I was a kid, funny ship man, what is uh? What
is something you think is underrated? You know what I was gonna say imagination and the indomitable human spirit, but also just learning. Learning is good. I feel like I like rediscovered It sounds so stupid, but rediscovered just the power of learning ship as an adult. I feel like we uh to the point of imagination. We just kind of like give adults the impression that they're too old to learn new ships. You know, I'm one years old.
I'm not that old. I feel I've like I've been convinced that I couldn't learn new stuff since I was like twelve or thirteen years old. Yeah, and that that's crazy, right right, just like to be like I'm too old to learn how to play music, I'm to learn, too old to learn how to learn like math, science, all these things. Just like, I don't know, man, we got to reframe our whole idea of education in this country. Man, you can do a lot of this ship on your own.
YouTube is a YouTube is free. It's free. It's a lot of ship on their libraries are cool. I don't know, man, I thought this is gonna be funnier, but it's not. It's just a serious point. It's just a real serious point. Such good points. Learning is fun, like the t Rex, Like the t Rex with sunglasses said on the poster in my fourth grade classroom. Learning is fun. Yeah, I mean, I I mean, I've had this thought before, even like my final couple of years of high school, Like the
junior senior year, I started thinking. I was like, you know, as when Wikipedia was, you know, like everyone was doing their research assignments based off of Wikipedia entries, and I was like, literally, every piece of information I'm about to pay twenty dollars a year four is already available for free. You just have to know how to form a curriculum and guide yourself through it. And that's that's the part
that's hard to do. But it's not impossible. It's figuring out how to like make it stick in your brain. But it's all out there. It's all available for you
to just look up and and have it change your life. Yeah, I mean, it's it's like you've got to reframe education to be like how do I meet my own needs and how do I my own needs and including the ship that I'm just curious about, you know, how do I learn for myself instead of learning how to prop up this like whether it's like a nation state or some other institution, you know, like just learn for yourself instead of learn what people need you to learn after
making you say the pledge of allegiance and whatnot. You know, Yeah, there's I feel like there's a general belief that life like peaks when you're young in the US, especially because that is one more most valuable too corporations as consumers. That's why like eighteen to thirty four is the target demographic. And it's like so that that's the part that gets like glorified, and that's the part that gets to show
to us. But it's as someone who is an incredibly slow learner like that, you you just get you can get if you're willing to like go through uncomfortable ship, you can just get better. Yeah, and like just peel back layers of the onion that is your you know,
all the ship. Like I was. I was so full of ship for most of the like most of my adult life, like and had no idea you know, yeah here, I mean it's it's I think people also have a big problem with looking foolish or whatever that means to them, or you know, or failing like attempting something and not looking cool while doing it, or like looking like you don't know something while you're doing it, I think is a big fear for a lot of people. It's it's
not healthy. You need to get over that ship. No one cares about that as much as you do, and it's holding you back. Go out there and live your life. Yeah yeah, and you know, maybe maybe the death of Twitter, you know, in the coming week, Well we'll change a lot of people attitude about that, you know, so that they're just gonna start charging for like the baseline, like just to use the ship. Yeah, there's gonna be uh, there's gonna be a basic tier. I guess they announced yesterday.
Good because I've been wondering when the collapse was gonna happen. It's been talked about for so long and it's this and I feel like Miles waiting on this baby, Like I'm like, when this Twitter fucking collapse? Right? When will I be free? When will I finally be able to let go of this stupid as platform? All right, ch'all hit me with the discord invite. That's where I'm I'm coming to hang out with Zeke Gang in the Discord. That's yeah, yeah, yeah, same here, I'm i I'll join
the Discord. I swore I wouldn't, I think on air once, but I'm coming there now, let's do all right, what's your what's your Twitter? So they know, Oh I'm not on Twitter. You're not on Twitter? Where do they hit you up? Instagram? You can find me at j con the Smith J C O N t H E S M I t H. I haven't decided that that's a ray Kuana Cheff reference yet. I like it. All right, Well, we'll hold each other accountable. We both just and I will be in the discord in the coming days, so
hit us up. All right, let's take a quick break, we'll come back. We'll talk about classified documents and Biden's beach house, you guys, And we're back. And the media, like I'm mostly observing this through headlines that I just like see shuffling across the New York Times, drug report, CNN. There's always like an update on like no classified documents and Biden's beach house last week and now they're looking for classified documents and pencils. And I haven't given a
ship about this story like from the start. And at first I was like, and that's because I'm anti Trump, and like you know, I was like critical of myself for not giving a shit about it. But it's just like, I don't know they there, I couldn't be less concerned that Joe Biden is like hoarding documents to sell them to other countries, like because he's like trying to make money off of being the president. Like that's what we were interested in from Trump, and that does sound like
some ship Trump would do. Joe Biden is not that cool, Like he's not doing that ship. He's not that interesting. He he is doing this by accident. It doesn't matter. It's just a talking point for Fox News to be like, well what about this? But I feel like the mainstream media just I don't know. They they like have this logic puzzle in their brain where they're like, well, if president also has documents he's not supposed to, then other
president who did it gets away free. And it's just I don't know, it's not I think it's kind of like an inertia machine to once you have like a headline that you know whoever is running the website or producing the show, and they're seeing like, oh, ratings go up when we mentioned this thing. We didn't expect the documents situation to go where it went with Trump. We expected it to be like a one day story and
then it's like, oh hey, here's some more. Oh hey here whoa, this is looking nefarious, this is looking weird, you know, and they're like, oh ship, President Biden, oh ship, and it just becomes more of like a like oh well, this story got mentioned and it gets headlined. So now here's another thing with this bridge these two things together, and here you go, here's another story for tomorrow. It's
so lazy. Yeah, I just don't understand what the president can do with classified documents at home that he wouldn't just do at the office, Like he's not Yeah, I'm picturing him just reading inja scrolls and doing the same dute to for five episodes. But beyond I don't know. I don't understand what what the concern is and how much of this is just old men having poor record keeping. Like I just I don't know where's what's the story here? I just don't give a thing. The Trump one is intriguing.
That is vaguely because they were like, hey, you have these documents. He's like I do like give him back and he was like fuck you. And then he was like I it's like I don't. I don't have those documents, and then they're you're like, hey man, we're here, Like look, the documents are right there. You were holding them that that was weird, and he's the type of person he does have like nefarious relations with the Saudias and all
all sorts of wild ship. So like it's just it's a it's another one of these things where you're like trying to pretend that Trump is like other presidents, and it's just like that's that's not that's never going to be the case. I mean, bro, I I got a frame magazine cover Rustle from the Vice offices in is that bad? You know? I should I give that bad? I don't understand, Like it's the problem. They canceled the show. So now the way these searches are being conducted is
like they're confirming with the person. The persons like, okay, coming in. I think Pence might actually plant documents so that people think he's more interesting because he's so whack. Like the the idea that they're searching in pensives is just like so sad the way this motherfucker's up to anything, or is like not so careful that he would actually do it, but like I feel like to like get the pop and to get the headline, I think Pence might like plant some documents. He's like, hey man, these
are from j store. What is it? They're like research papers, these are available. Yeah, alright, on the subject of kind of relearning stuff, scientists believe they've just discovered the secret to Rome's self healing concrete, which I didn't really know that's what was on on with Rome's concrete. I didn't know that there was like a recipe that Rome had figured out and that we like that just got lost and that like, oh man, we should have should have
hung on to that one. But yeah, it's always interesting to me to be reminded that like we forget ship all the time, like we lose books to history, we lose important secrets. Recipes. Yeah, it's something with limestone, right, some like crazy yeah recipe situation. Yeah, it's like hot a lot like hot lime, it seems to be, which I think that's also just like a flavor of toastito.
But like I think it's like hot, Like yeah, it's something that like interacts with it in a way that like creates heat and that like they thought that what they were seeing was like an error and and they were like, there's all these like white chunks throughout the thing. I guess they didn't mix it well enough. And it turns out that was like the signature that they should have been using to be like, oh no, they were
really onto something. And when this ship cracks and that, like all you need to do is get it wet and it reforms. Right, we lost so much cool ship to history, like we don't even know about Like wasn't there like a like a birth control plant or something existed around the time as well that we're completely extinct and like something what was that? Something like flamethrower technology or some ship that they yeah, Greek fire yeaheah, yeah.
Just I mean I'm I constantly wonder like how much cool ship like, because this stuff is equivalent to what we're you know, I mean, maybe even more technologically advanced than what we're dealing with today. And I think we kind of have a bias of like if it's old, it's not worth it. But this is fascinating. It's like, Okay, so so we got this cool technology, and I know, I see, I understand that it's cool and practical and
all this stuff. But what we could do is let the mafia infiltrate all the workers unions, and uh we can and we can just build infrastructure that's that's destined the crumble in like two to five years, and you know, we just stimulate the economy by having these That's what
I think. That's really it, though I do. I I like, even like without the mafia, Like, you sell more concrete if the ship, you know, Like you sell more iPhones if they break after a couple of years, like after the fourth update, like yeah, phone, like I think, and also like I don't realized. So making concrete accounts for seven percent of global emissions, and concrete is the most
consumed material on Earth, second only to water. Yeah, I uh read or watched or something very recently that we could cut down of all production and consumption and have plenty for everybody everybody in the world, right, but we don't want to. But we don't want to. It's not creating jobs, you know it. We're not creating jobs, and that's what's most important. You've got to create jobs that don't meet anyone's needs and don't pay very well either you need three or four of them, just to live.
But you know, yeah, got them busy so that they have to work, so that they never stopped for a moment and be like, wait a fucking second here, we got to deify the state. We have to deify the state.
That's what it's all about, everybody. Yeah, I really do think it's important, Like my understanding even even the fact that they've known that there was this better form of concrete and they just haven't been able to like figure it out, completely blows up my understanding of like our scientific capabilities, which admittedly is driven mostly by movies like
Face Off an Iron Man. But like you know, I just assume you take a little chunk of the Roman concrete and you put it in like a little machine you analyze it, yeah, like a microwave looking matter analyzer, and it's like this, it is this and this and this, and you're like boom. I mean it's like you said, they just thought they didn't mix it well, and they never tried to like just do it that way. It's
just like recreate this. Yeah. I don't know, man, I think that's the military industrial complex ship because you know, all sciences the military and whatnot, Like you mentioned Iron Man, every like every couple of years, I feel like the biggest science news is they're making a real Iron Man suit, and nobody is like for who, not one time is that? Have I seen an article it's like for who? Who is that for? Yeah, they're making real they're making Gundams.
Though they're making real Gundams. They did. Uh the last like Boston Scientific robot that they showed everybody like it. They the way they the context they put it in was that construction site, but it was like it's like
massively powerful bipedal robot. It was like that like came from a sitting position, like leaped to its feet, did a back flip like through this massive like bag of weight onto this platform over its head, left onto the platform, and it's like they built a gazebo in twenty minutes.
Like that's not what that was for. You don't need that for the fucking constructions like like that, like just having killing like had it going through a you know, obstacle course with machine guns or something, if you like just be honest about what you're building this ship for. Right and even even when it comes to this concrete s I think they're gonna like even if they figure it out, like the way you know, we're gonna get the water down version of that. It's not gonna heal itself.
They're gonna make it so you have to replace it even more, you know how they give us the cheap ship where it doesn't work right, right, Yeah? Right. They got the police dogs already, uh, the little black mirror police dogs out there, and I've seen people push those over. You know, they're very vulnerable. That's the thing. That's what
That's what I was saying about. Like, so I had a big thing like earlier, like a few weeks back, where I was talking about how amazing, like somebody figured out something about the second bounce in error in the human gait, Like the the human like how we walk is this incredibly complex thing, the like defied scientific understanding for a while. And I was making fun of all the robots that they've tried to make walk on two feet and like they just always seem like they're not
good at that. And somebody sent me this video of the new Boston Scientific Construction killer robot to to like just prove it. But yeah, I feel like when you get them in the field and it's like not you can't program it. So so they're like they know where everything is, and you know, it's like the Testlas self driving car unless they've like scanned the course and like cleared it ahead of time. You know, but there might be a banana peal in in in its path up
ends everything. Think about all all of that. And they they figured out how to make the titties bouncing debt or alive in like two thousand two. But we're still but we're still stuck on walking. Yeah, this shows you where he where our priorities are as a nation, you know what I mean? That's right. I put the second hitch in my step to afoid crease in my my Jordans. I think I think that's before That's what I Yeah, by the way, you do a great Jordan's and your
special Oh hey thank you? Those you wear, uh the blue the greats. Yeah yeah, a lot of people should on mids. But those are fired. Yeah. No, I'm I'm a big fan of those. They were actually uh they were stolen when I was in Oakland on tour. But you know I had a good run with him. Yeah, here you go. Never got him increased before beforehand. Yeah. The problem with those is the swede. You know the colors like the crease on you know, we don't have to get into all that. Yeah, yeah, but they do
turn greenish, yes they do. Yeah, all right, and then there's uh. In the last week, Labor Department announced a surge in new jobs. Biden is taking credit for the job boom, arguing that it's now crystal clear that his economic package was rock solid. But a rock solid package from okay, that's right, Yeah, he's very rile. But it was actually led by bars and restaurants opening back up
after the vacancy started sparked by the pandemic. And it's there's also a vast downward trend in so like technology, finance and manufacturing firms are laying off workers and then like leisure and hospitality is adding jobs. So that that's what we're seeing. But like the quality of jobs is going down, but there's just like more of them. The quality of life you can live with between like the tech job and the lee you're in hospitality jobs is like the it's a shame that again this goes back
to our point earlier. They seems like just there's an active push to just preserve jobs that will grind you into dust, so you have absolutely no time to think you might need to have two or three or four of them just to make it by. And I truly do think we've brought this up a number of times on on the podcast, but I think they really do not want to have what happened in happened again. And it seems to be in the system incentivizes you know,
this this immune system. You bring up a lot jack of like just there's like a sentient capitalistic organism that just wants to preserve the jobs and the the things that are going to grind us down to the point where we just cannot think, yeah, make the most money. It doesn't matter if it's make the most money for the most people. This will make the most money, so the most money needs to be changing hands, Like that's what the system is designed two, you know, drive towards growth,
towards them, then protect once it once it has it. Yeah, I can't I don't remember who the specific example is, but I feel like there's been a big spike in people kind of going mask off with that rhetoric and explicitly saying this is the time we need to punish the working force and whatnot, and we need to limit the power of the buying power of the working class
and all of these things. And I mean, I feel like they're being a lot more explicit about it because people are stuck in this mindset that there's no alternative to capitalism, even though we have this critique of it. Which is why I which is why I talk about up top. I think people are so stuck in that mindset that this is the way it has to be right. And you know, there are obviously barriers to finding our way out, but there are barriers to just being in
it as is, so you know why not uncomfortable. So yeah, you know, it's it really is impossible for like that there's this I forget who said it, but it's the it's easier to picture the end of the world that it is to picture the end of capitalism, because we're like capitalism is so thoroughly, you know ingrained in not only our society but like just in everyone's mind set. So so like it's either like a modern day world like where that a movie takes place in, or it's
like the apocalypse. It's just like, you know, everything has fallen apart. They nobody can imagine some alternative where it's just like now things are things are actually better here. Yeah, I mean, I do know who said this that capitalism seems just inescapable, But so did the divine right of kings that was urs lit Legwin, you know, and that's really is fun. I I feel like there is a way out market that you only said they should in the eighties. You know, that's not that long ago, you know.
I don't know, dog they said I couldn't write on the Garfield reboot, and I feel I feel like, what what do we need a Garfiel reboot for? There's another way, there's another way. Let's take a quick break and we'll come back and talk about balloons and other fun things. And we're back. And so you've you've probably seen the headlines by now. You might have even seen the videos. There was a Chinese spy balloon that was spotted over Montana, and I was having a hard time picturing what that meant,
like someone saw a balloon in the sky and what what? What? What was so attention grabbing? And so I watched the YouTube video and it is fucking eerie. It is very strange looking. I'm not gonna argue that it doesn't look weird. But my whole thing is like, oh, like, what is the US government telling us this for? Like why is this story getting so out there now? Because I mean I feel like we've had they I mean they've said
this has happened before a number of times. Just this one's a little different because it's sticking around, is more persistent and acting you know, strangely or whatever. But I kind of feel like the U. S. Government is really putting this out there because if they didn't want us to know about it, we wouldn't know about it right now. And I feel like, you know, they're doing this like see you look what the Chinese government does trying to surveillance.
They're all funked up. It feels like like an op, like an advertisement for like, hey, we gotta, we gotta, you know, increase our military funding because the fucking the U. S. Military they do this to us. They've collected data on us without our knowledge, and then they don't tell us
about it. But then you know, the Chinese government does that and they kind of use that as a mascot to be like, hey, guys, you know it's bad out there because evil governments are doing this to you, and it's like, well, you're being a little bit of a hypocrite here right, Yeah, I'm like I'm on TikTok already. What am I scared of? You know? It's so why are they My question is why would they be so
conspicuous about it? Like if that's really what's going on, Like, why would they not just like they have so many other means to do to do like sinister ship, what is the balloon gonna do that a satellite couldn't. I'm just I'm just funny you ask, because but did you see did you guys watch the video? I watched some of the video. Let's just watch this video real quick, because the thing that's weird is that it is just stationary.
It's just stuck there in the sky. And this person who's like taking the video of it has like a magnified lens, but it's it's just a white dot that is just like sitting there in the sky. And also like at that same time, Montana like had to ground all their airport like they're this there's trying to just take all of its surveillance ship from movies because they got Skynet, they got the they got the note balloon, Like, what's going on? And he just stop, just stop making movies,
Like what is going on? It's like, so it looks like it's a photograph, right, it looks like a photograph of like a white dot on a blue background. It looks like the moon, Like if you weren't really paying attention, Yeah, it's kind of floating there. We didn't land on the moon. The moon landed on us. This guy spends the whole video like if you turned the audio on, He like spends the whole video being like, this is not the moon. I know you're gonna think it's the moon. It's not
the moon. And then at the end he's like, there's the moon right there. I know the moon when I see it. That's no moon. Sorry the best cask. But anyways, the big thing that's changed is that the spy tech has gotten so small that you can just like tie it to a balloon and launch that and it's just as good as the ship that you can launch in a satellite. Like, it's gotten so tiny the balloons work.
And the thing that a balloon can do, at least these types of balloons is they can just stay stationary, whereas a satellite you need multiple passes from different satellites to get like multiple looks, whereas this one can just like kind of hover. So does this not show up on radar? And like, since you can, since civilians can see it from the ground, it seems like you could take the ship out with the BB gun. I'm not
sure why this is more threatening than something else. Yeah, no, it's It does make you wonder why they are using the same technology that Winnie the Poo used to steal honey. Yeah, I feel like if I saw that, I would be like, hey, man, I got my songe on me. You're good, get somebody else. You just just turn to Micael, you could you you could just call me like, I know you're know you're listening, Like if you want to talk, if you want to talk,
just come just hit me up. Does does not feel like this story is getting too big for what it actually It just feels like people are like pointing to this as like some sign of something like some encroaching something. And I don't feel fear about this, So I'm wondering if I'm being foolish or if they are. Yeah, I'm not scared of it, you know what one of the a quote that I've been really dwelling on recently is that is that prisons exist, so you don't think everywhere
else is a prison. And I think that's what this is. I feel like, I feel like this is like, if you see the balloon, you'll think there aren't little tiny balloons everywhere. Yeah, yeah, exactly. It's like being in a panopticon prison and then a guard comes and looks you in the face like, Okay, I know I'm already being looked at. What do you Yeah, that's the spy. We're not spying on you with your phone. Yeah, everywhere that
you go. Yeah. Yeah. There's also the USA isn't shooting the balloon down because of potential falling debris, which I don't if you've ever cared about falling debris. That that's the That was the part where I was like, all right, something is going on here that then we're not we're not even talking about a game, We're talking about a debris. Yeah. It's like they wanted to be a hey example of like China's impending like doom over it, but it feels
but that's such a that's so fucked up. I feel like if there was something that scary, like that that's happening. It probably is happening, and they aren't telling us about it, like we're not that stupid. It also feels like they're making up an excuse why they're not shooting it down, because like the truth is, they just don't want to piss off China. They're just like, Yeah, that guy staring at me menacingly. I'd go tell him to funk off, but I'm worried a fight wood ensue and i might
push him over so hard that he'd fall down on somebody. Yeah, I mean, they're they're doing the same thing. You know. The Communist Party was like, okay, now that is ours, I will say that, but it's not. It's the citizens airship, that's all it is. It's like, come on, y'all. Everyone's lying and it's like we're in this play and no one's believing anyone. We're all terrible scene actors or scene
partners together. This is fucking this is infuriating. They're like, it blew off course, But then it's just like sitting there, like being controlled by something just hovering over Bozeman, like, how did you blow off course from China? Yeah? Right, Yeah, we're just testing the weather. Isn't there a second one up in Canada right now? I know this one blew in from Canada, but I thought there was like a second one that the Canadian government was monitoring as well,
like in their territory from Canada. And boy and my flaps tired the ball. But I mean, that's the thing that we've been hearing that China and the US are like spying on each other with like mobile phone networks in in the Caribbean that surveile US mobile phone Subscribersen America was writing about how they were stepping up surveillance of the South China Sea because growing fear that China
will try and you know, take full control. So it's just a bunch of yeah, as as it's like an open secret that both countries are spying on each other. So so let me ask you this, Jack, you being super into UFOs and all that, Yeah, the wild orbs that we were seeing just defy physics and and all that. Do you think yeah, yeah, yeah, do you think there's
a slight possibility that balloons? Yeah, well not necessarily balloons, But that's I guess That's what I'm saying, is like that seems like the freakier you know story, like the scarier potentially maybe things like this thing works in a way that we don't know and we have no idea what it is or where it is or how it works or anything. And and this thing is like we know who it is we and it's floating right here.
You can look at it right now, and it feels like more of like a kind of like a band aid for like, I know, there's a lot of accistential fears out there right now, So let's go ahead and float this little balloon boy out there and let you guys worry about that like a fear you can you can recognize, Man, we do go crazy over balloons, don't we.
Doom boys story that was like crazy people want nuts for that, you know, was that when the kid was like up there, like it was Moody's point is that, yeah, yeah, he he was just like hiding at his dad's house or okay, But yet none of it really scares me. That's the thing is because like if the technologies is advanced as they say it is, the scary version of that is like the second you get this super advanced technology, they're just gonna take everyone out because they have that.
Like that's kind of how the like military industrial complex tells us to think about the world. And like so every time I see advanced technology like that, I'm like, well, whoever has this has the ability to like just funk us up dramatically embarrassingly like quickly, and they're not so
like there. It just makes me think that there might be something, some more hopeful version of things than the extremely depressing one that we get from the military industrial complex, which is that we need to spend you know, billions and trillions of dollars on weapons or else were fucked because whoever has the best weapons is automatically gonna just like try and kill you the second they have better
weapons than you. That makes sense. Like this really this story feels like it re certifies that for me, because I mean, if we're talking about like just some wild tic tac floating thing that defies everything we know about physics and science and then a balloon that's kind of stuck, I mean I feel like, um, I just feel like, you know, the ladder is a thing that you know, it makes me not scared of of the technology that's out there at all in any way, shape or form.
Because it's if this is the best they can offer, then ship, I'm I'm good. I mean at this point, I'm like I'm gonna kill myself, Like what do you what am I supposed to be scared of? Like what do you what do you want me to be away? You know, I don't care this high food, those corn serrup was gonna take me out, you know what I'm saying, Like, all right, I don't need to be worried about some balloon, Right, someone's gonna give me. It'll just was like statistically, it's
gonna just be a guy. So like what am I worried about a balloon for? You know, I'm a black dude just being outside? Like what am I worried about China for? I'm here? Yeah. Also to your point that like why is this suddenly a major news story? A bunch of balloons were spotted spying on the US and twenty nineteen, you might remember that is not a thing that happened in the media, Like nobody in the media was covering that ship. That was because they were launched
by the US military. Part of a surveillance has to spy on Americans in order to locate and detern narcotic trafficking and homeland security threats. So yeah, they're allowing this to be a story, and did it didn't allow to be a story. So we do everything but the right thing. Oh everything, But no, that's not that's not fun, you know, care and whatnot. Let's just let's just put balloons in the sky and deter drugs, which are fun, deter people
from having their fun. Let's take the fun thing, a balloon and use it in the least fun the most fun deterrent way possible. Right, that's what that's fun. Up. They use balloons, which are also fun to stop ship. That's also fun. Fun, they're more fun. They're they're they're whimsical. They're almost like there's a majesty about them. And they
just use it for drone surveillance. Like like, come on, bro, they're gonna have like a skywalking penny farthing next that just like comes across the sky chees lasers that what do you as a thought, that's like rule controversial ship. Damn, bro could be using that ship for travel. We could be getting around in airships and whatnot. Right, bring, I think we got that America together. It's just Zeppela do you know the Goodyear blimp is just full of helium?
Is it really? Yeah, that's just a helium balloon up there. So we just learned nothing. Yeah, wow, I want to do that. Take me up all right? You truly a pleasure having you as always on the show. It's been a great time. Man. Where can people find you? Follow you all that good stuff? I'm at you do on everything. I think it's you do underscore on Twitter. I'm also, I mean hopefully going to be bouncing off social media
soon enough with this Twitter fiasco. But I got a podcast called Jaded for him that I would love for people to check out. We talked about a lot of this ship. I'm I was just talking about, you know, get into granular ship and I feel like, I don't know, man, it's a good time. Don't check it out. Is there a work of media that you've been enjoying. I guess I've I've had. I've had. It's a music thing. I've had Herbie Hancock's album Sunlight on repeat the past week
or so. Got it on vinyl or you just you're listening to it on a streaming. I'm just on I'm just on streaming. I picked up the base again. So I've just been like, there you go. It's all Vinyl is a hard way to you know, reset and learn ship justin where can people fund you? Is their working media you've been enjoying? Yeah, thanks, it's it's been really fun and you know, dipping a toe out there into the into the public world. You guys can find me at j con the Smith on Instagram. I am not
on Twitter or anywhere else. I debated on whether you've been telling you guys where to find me, but you know, I feel comfortable with with this cruise that gang has, uh seems like the least toxic fan base you could be a part of. So yeah, you guys can hit me up there. I I promise you I'm not kidding when I say I barely dipped that all into the into the messy waters of social media. I think I've accepted less than a hundred followers, and my account was private.
I'm making it public today. You guys can look at pictures of my dog and uh, just traveling around l Yeah, lions the Goddess and yeah, hit me up if you guys want to talk about any nerds ship or just you know, have have someone to you know, bounce an idea off over two. I love art, I love tattoos, I love sneaker culture, love all that ship. Um So that is again at Jacon the Smith J c oh in t H E S M I t H on Instagram and I do have a worker media. I've been enjoying.
I've been getting really into like buying jewelry and stuff lately, Like my grandma gifted me a few for old like gold rings and necklaces and stuff, and it kind of sparked this joy in me. Um My uncle also rest in peace, Uncle Tony. He owned a jewelry store in Chicago. And there's this goldsmith that goes by the name of Castro Smith on Instagram as someone most beautiful custom pieces you will ever see. He uses rare materials, he uses all types of minerals, gold, rubies, emeralds, and they just
look amazing. They're one just pure works of art and um soh yeah, that's Castro Smith on Instagram and uh you can find him there. All right, I'm gonna go old fashion and go a couple of tweets I've been enjoying. Uh well, I didn't even that this was the tweet section I had another Okay, you want to give us a tweet? I I don't say tweets anymore because yeah, yeah, yeah, I got confused. But uh, I have a it's a TikTok.
It's more there's visual to it. But like, just know this man is watching a muckbum video and his friend walks in. That's okay, I'm trying. He's trying to what and I'm good, all right, what are you watching? That's what you're doing? Is this bite? Right? That's what I like. That's what I like. What I was summing it out. Let me see that's from uh shoddy? What makes you TikTok? I believes the account. Oh that's good. Yeah, all right.
This tweet is from Cool Math Game Underscore, and I'm calling it out because I want to hear you guys thoughts. As you know, comic book fans efficientados Corey Cool Math Games tweeted Spider Man would be useless in a small town, no buildings to swing from. He would just be a regular guy at that point. Has anybody tried to do that? Has anyone done the Spider Man in Smallville type ship? I think so, But that's also completely false. I mean he's got super he's got super strength, super agility, he
can sense things before it's gonna happen. Just because he's like on skyscrapers doesn't mean being you know, two stories up above everyone else is going to be kind of helpful. You got the high ground. We know that's helpful from Star Wars. I don't I don't see this being I don't see him taking els in a small town. Yeah, Glory, shut the funk up, Yes, stupid, he can. He can web other ship. Yeah, bro, he can just grab you up into onto the side of a sucking bus. Stop,
it doesn't matter. Yeah, he can sling himself like locomotion might be a different a different story, but like combat, that's you know, that's a wrap. He's good. Sophia ben Wan tweeted, I'm gonna say something that might be fucked up to fifty should be divisible by three. And I just agree with that fifty to be divisible by three. The fact that it isn't as a fucking travesty. It's but man, man, what the fuck? No bro? What now?
It's huh should be right? No, man, this is some like this is some uh Terrence Howard Matt Right, this is this is the new This is the new math one plus one actually equals four. No, bro, all right? You can find me on Twitter at Jack Underscore O'Brien hit me with the invite to the discord. You can find us on Twitter at daily Zeitgeist. Were at the
Daily Zeitcheist on Instagram. We have a Facebook fan page and a website daily zeitcheys dot com, where we post our episodes and our footnote We link off to the information that we talked about in today's episode, as well as a song that we think you might enjoy. Super producer Joe, what is the song that you think people might enjoy? If you want to feel like you're sea walking through lavender Town and the original Pokemon Yellow on my nineties Bredren know what I'm talking about? Throw on
this song, bro, This this ship is so good. Uh. This is Floating by Schoolboy Q and twenty one Savage. The beat is so fire. It reminds me of that you're going through a little ghost town and Pokemon and and you just you just see walking on all the host Uh. So you can find that in the footnotes. That's Floating by school Board Q and twenty one Savage an album. Uh yeah, it's off, It's off crash talk, Yeah yeah. I mean there's even a little reference that I think. Uh, how's it go? Uh swag on mascot
in the legs. Bitch, I'm floating might turn into a ghost punk bitch, Yes, I'm floating. Goddamn, this song is so good. Turn that ship on. You're gonna have yourself a good Monday, I promise. Alright, Well, the Daily zey guys, the production of iHeart Radio. For more podcasts for my heart Radio, visit the I Heart Radio app, Apple podcast, or wherever you listen your favorite shows. That is gonna
do it for us this morning. We're back this afternoon to tell you what is trending, and we will talk to y'all that bye bye, mm hmmmmm