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I'm Trevoranoa the Democratic presidential debate and A just moments ago, and we are coming to you live. That's right, we are live, people, and I'll prove it. The New York Knicks lost tonight. How could I possibly know that if we weren't live now, on a normal nights, the debates would be the only news anyone will be talking about. But since Trump became present, there has been no normal nights.

So first up, let's get into it.

Tonight was the fifth Democratic Debates and it took place down in Atlanta, Georgia, at Tyler Perry Studios, where they filmed numerous movies and TV shows, and I'll be honest, I'm just glad Joe Biden finally made it to the right sound stage because for a while today he was just wandering around in the background of other movies.

It was really awkward.

Medea was like, give me one of those famous massages.

Why are you here?

I'm tight as hell Joe Biden.

Now, at the last debates in October, they had twelve Democrats crammed on stage. It was so tight people could barely move. But then Spirit Airlines was like, hey, that's our thing. So this time the Democrats scaled it back down to an even ten and the candidates were joined by four moderators, who, for the first time this campaign season were all women, which personally I didn't even notice. Yeah, it's amazing, but I didn't even notice because I don't see color.

Now the major change, the.

Major change from the last debate is the rise of Pete Budajes, right mayor of South Bend, Indiana and the only adult Michael Jackson would be into.

Over the past few weeks, he.

Has surged from the middle of the pack to take the lead in Iowa and New Hampshire. So now between Buddhajeg, Biden, Warren, and Bernie. This has become a four way race, and if you include Corey Booker, it's still a four way race. So with Buddhajet's writing and rising in the polls tonight, the moderates has asked him something a lot of people are wondering, Why should a teenage mayor from South Bend, Indiana become President of the United States.

Mayor bootaj Edge, let's talk about your record as a candidate.

Why should Democrats take the risk of betting on you in.

Order to defeat this president. We need somebody who can go toe to toe, who actually comes from the kinds of communities that he's been appealing to. I don't talk a big game about helping the working class while helicoptering between golf courses with.

My name on him.

I don't even golf.

As a matter of fact, I never thought I'd be on a Forbes magazine list, but they did one of all the candidates by wealth, and I am literally the least wealthy person on this stage.

Yeah, Pete Budages maybe the poorest person on that stage.

But Bernie was like, yes, but I look the poorest and that should cout for something.

You know, it's actually funny how running for president is the only time people brag about how much money they don't have.

Right, It's like they're all bizarro rappers.

You know, started from the bottom, never left, started from the bottom, And my whole team is in the exact same place because there's been no upward mobidity for the last thirty forty years in this country.

And I'm not gonna lie.

I'm not gonna lie.

A lot of too nice debate sounded exactly like what we've heard in the previous four you know, Medicare for role versus a public option, pragmatism versus revolution, Joe Biden versus his own mouth. But one new thing we did see tonight with some brand new beefs like Elizabeth Warren versus Corey Booka on the wealth tax.

I have proposed a two cent wealth tax. That is a tax for everybody who has more than fifty billion dollars in assets. Your first fifty billion is free and clear, but you're fifty billions and first dollar you got to pitch in two cents.

I don't agree with the wealth tax the way that Elizabeth Warren puts it.

The top one tenth of one percent that I want to say, pay two cents more. Phil paid three point two percent in America.

The tax the way we're putting it forward right now, the wealth tax, I'm sorry, it's cumbersome.

Has been tried by the nation's two.

Cent wealth tax, and we can invest in an entire generation in the future.

We Democrats also have to talk about how to grow wealth as well. When I stood in church recently and asked folks in the Black church, how many people here want to be entrepreneurs? Have the church raise their hands yeah?

And one guy in the back was like, Nigga, wasn't entrepreneur.

It's French for a businessman. Well, I don't want to be a French businessman. I want to be an American businessman. It's got a whole lot more to say.

Why.

So that was Warren and Booka arguing about wealth text. Then there was a beef that really came out of nowhere, Kamala Harris versus Telsey Gabbett.

We have someone on the stage who is attempting to be the Democratic nominee for President of the United States, who, during the Obama administration, spent four years full time on Fox News criticizing President Obama budied up to Steve Bannon to get a meeting with Donald Trump in the Trump Tower.

What Senator Harris is doing is unfortunately continuing to traffic in lies and smears and innuendos because she cannot challenge the substance of the argument that I'm making people.

Please stop fighting, it's not worth it. Neither of you are going to be president.

What are you doing?

That was the most intense argument I've seen in Atlanta that didn't involve Nane. That was really intense. I also love how they're doing it with smiles.

In their faces.

Ah well, the thing about you're someone to break your face. But please, please don't get me wrong, tonight wasn't all about beefs right. In fact, there was one moment between the candidates that was actually kind of sweet.

First, let's just want to stick up for Tom. We have a broken campaign finance system, but Tom's been spending his own money fighting climate change. You can knock someone for having money and spending it in the right way my opinion.

Thanks Andrew will.

Problem ah Yang twenty twenty. Everyone gets a thousand dollars and the compliments. I love it like Andrew Yang.

Is so nice.

I bet he would have the best concession speech ever. He'd be like, I may not have won the presidency, but I won something more important, a friend.

Thank you.

Now, Just like in previous debates, one of the most awkward moments of the night came courtesy of the original gaff machine when he was talking about domestic violence.

Joe Biden, no man has a right to raise a hand to a woman in anger other than in self defense, and.

That's rarely ever occurs.

And so we have to just change the culture, period and keep punching at it and punching at it and punching.

Out there will be a big talkingly meaning it.

Make it's a gigantic issue.

What are you doing?

What are you doing? Joe?

The only way he can recover from that is if he just starts making bad word choices his thing. You know, he just needs to dig deeper and just be like, we need to get right to the heart of the drug epidemic.

I'm saying it.

Deep in the veins of the drug problem.

And when we do it, it's gonna feel so good.

So the candidate once again spent two hours and not trying to show votes is what separated them from.

The other people on the stage.

But when it came to Trump, they were all trying to show that they were the same.

We have a president who is not only a pathological liar, he is likely the most corrupt president in the modern history of America. Breath the Maler Report, all four hundred and forty two pages of it that showed how the president tried to obstruct justice.

Sucking up to Vladimir Putin every.

Minute of the day.

The President had to confess in writing in court to illegally diverting charitable contributions that were supposed to go to veterans.

First of all, we have a criminal living in the White House.

A criminal in the White House. Someone needs to tell Donald Trump.

I bet he was watching this at home terrified, like.

Oh no, a criminal. I hope he doesn't steal all this stuff.

I already know.

But look, it was no surprise that at a democratic debate they were talking impeachment tonight, because you see, the biggest political story today was a blockbuster hearing in Congress where we heard testimony from Gordon Sonland, Trump's ambassador to the EU and Homer Simpson's body double he's the first witness to testify who spoke directly to President Trump about what he wanted from Ukraine, and today he admitted it.

Which shows you.

How bad Trump wanted dirt on Joe Biden, because usually Trump will do anything to get out of a meeting.

Yeah, one time he even called in a bumb threat. It was like, hello, White House, this is mister el Kaieda.

I'm calling in a bumb threat between three and four pm in the conference room.

But keep the doughnuts there.

I'll eat them later.

And here's the thing. Here's the thing.

Not only did Sonland testify that Trump ordered a quid pro quo, he testified that basically everyone in the administration knew about it.

Everyone Seriously, he threw everybody under the.

Bus, Mike Mayo, Mike Pence, Mick Mulvaney, John Bolton, John Bolton's mustache, even John Bolton's mustache is mustache. But there's one man in particular that Somolond put at the center of the whole scandal, Rudy Giuliani.

Secretary Perry, Ambassador Vulkar and I worked with mister Rudy Giuliani on Ukraine matters at the express direction of the President of the United States. We did not want to work with mister Guliani. We worked with mister Giuliani because the President directed us to do so. President Trump directed us to quote talk with Rudy. Let me say again, we weren't happy with the President's directive to talk with Rudy. We did not want to involve mister Julian.

Oh God, damn. Nobody wanted to work with Rudy Giuliani.

You know.

Sunland was talking about Rudy like he was like that weird kid that your mom made you play with. Remember that kid? Yeah, and then that kid willys get you in trouble, and you'd be like, Mom, I didn't want to play with Rudy in the first place, you said I have to. Then he wanted to microwave a dead pigeon.

That's not my fault, Like I would have loved to be a fly on the wall.

When Rudy Giuliani watched that testimony, Although if there was a fly on Rudy's wall.

I'm pretty sure he eats it.

So maybe not exactly, but but you know.

What I mean.

So today's hearing was very bad for President Trump, so much so that he came out of the White House before the hearing was even over to defend himself.

And I gotta say he seemed a little shook.

Here's the quick comment on what's going on in terms of testimony with Ambassador Silence. And I just noticed one thing, and I would say that means it's all over. What do you want from Ukraine? He asks me, screaming, what do you want from Ukraine? What do you want from Ukraine? I keep clearing all these different ideas and theories.

What do you want? What do you want? And now here's my response that he gave. Just gag. Ready, you have the cameras rolling. I want nothing. That's what I want from Ukraine. That's what I said. I want nothing.

What is Trump doing?

That was one of the least presidential things I've ever seen. He just looked like that crazy dude in the neighborhood is yelling at everybody on his front lawn. If I find out who's been taking my newspaper. I swear to God like Trump is the only president to bring down the property value around the White House.

Right.

You can see even the white people next door came.

Out to see what the commotion, of course all about. You can see in their.

Faces like, oh my god, Donald is out there again, Like I don't know, I missed that lovely black family who used to live here.

This this guy is a problems. Here's a problem.

And you realize the worst part is that Trump was reading all of that from notes, Like that wasn't Trump freestatic, that was Trump prepared. Now, look, I'm no trained lawyer. I'm no trained lawyer, but I feel like innocent people don't need notes to remind themselves that they're innocent. Like you never see defendants in a courtroom, like can I just say your ana, I did not murder my wife. So look, this didn't make Trump look good or innocence. In fact, he said the same lines so many times

Ready, you have the.

Camera's rolling, What do you want from your brain? What do you want from your brain? What do you want from your brain? I keep hearing all these different ideas and theories.

What do you want? What do you want? What do you want? What do you want? I hear all these theories. What do you want? Right?

I want nothing? I want nothing. I want nothing. I want nothing. I want no quid pro quo. I want no quid pro quo. I want nothing. I want nothing. I want nothing. Thank you, folks.

I think he nailed the people. He's getting the job.

He'll be right back.

Talk about for the day show.

As we said earlier, tonight's debate was held at Tyler Perry's studios in Atlanta, a choice, some believe is about sending a message to a very specific.

Group of voters.

So we sent Roywood Junior down to Atlanta to investigates.

Atlanta, the capital of Georgia and blackness. Democrats are here to appeal to black voters. But what do black voters want? I'm here to find out the first waffle house as the Democrats prepare for the debate at Tyler Perry's gated community. That's some of the panel of voters, all with one thing in common, all right, who voted for Obama? In twenty twelve, I was too young. So which candidate do you think best understands the needs of the black voter?

I think Elizabeth Warren.

Bernie, I want to go Bernie, Chris.

Who do you think that understands the needs of the black voter? Donald Trump?

Huh?

Explain some of.

The stuff I've heard he's already doing is like present refs. He's been hanging around black people as long as I can remember.

They loved him Philly ran for president as a Republican.

Trump was the man.

Raise your hand if you remember when Donald Trump was the man.

The man as in the man but not the man.

He wouldn't let.

Black people into his apartment.

Roy know what I'm talking about.

I don't know what he's talking about, but maybe some word association will show us what they think of the other candidates.

Joe Biden gas touching women?

Alright, so nothing positive? Okay, next candidate, Okay, serve as a leader. It thinks well on your feet. Warren is discussed giving black people reparations? Is that a campaign promise you believe she could fulfill?

No?

No, no. Instead of calling it reparations, what if they called it back pay?

No, that sounds even worse.

Al right, next candidate, that's the man right now.

Ran he was with Martin Luther King, but uh he just had a heart attime.

So no, somebody you love Bernie Jessica im cause.

He gonna walk it like he talking.

He gonna come. He gonna be out there with us if he can. If he can, if he's na, I'll.

Put him in a wheelchair.

I'll be right there behind Thom.

What do we feel about Pete Boudhagic. Oh, I'm sorry, that's not Pete Bootage, that's theius. But just look you can see the similarities.

Nice show he got the ooh his hairline is like the bread they could you know, and these siblings.

But he's polling terribly with black people right now.

Exactly we don't know him.

He went up to Harlem, sit down with our shop and has some soul food at Sylvia's. Is that pandering or outreach? What did he order?

Right?

So if you saw him.

Crumbla the corn beard on top of the Bran's real, right, I mighta be you, you might be alright? Yeah, So Kamala Harris police.

There there's a lot of people who look like me locked up under her watch.

So Kamala's campaign released a video of her dancing to Cardi b that's Pandora. So then what is Kamala supposed to do when you out and you black and a band plays? Do you not do a little dance while you walking?

Along?

With the second line, I think we're harder on the black.

Candidates, to be honest, I think it's difficult for for black people like her, even even Corey, to to be themselves when the spotlight is on them.

Corey Booker told Joe Biden that he diffing in the kool aid and don't know the flavor. How did that make you feel as a black person?

Corny?

I know we we've all said something like that.

Oh yeah, he allowed, He just said it in a corny way.

Is their behavioral expectation on black candidates that's not put on white candidates?

Yes?

Yes, Why do you think that is? For black voters? Why do you think we do that?

Because we see ourselves in them, and if they're acting a certain way, then we're like mm no.

Mm, white people are watching. Don't act like that exactly.

We expect them to represent all the different types of flex the spectrum.

Yes, so we've talked about a lot of stuff tonight. Having said all of that about all of the Democratic candidates, how many of you all still think Trump will win in twenty twenty? Do you honestly think that any of these Democrats could beat Trump if they've.

All rallied for one. There's so many people running.

So we all need to agree on who that one candidate is and then all the other candidate support them. Tell me who's that candidate.

Trump twenty twenty?

Baby, hold on, hold on, I said, And there's a lesson for Democrats. You can't win the black vote by pandering, because black people are as complex as any other voter base. If you want our trust, make promises you can keep walk it like you talk it, and above all, keep the faith. Father, God, we call on you right now to pray for Chris closure eyes. We're praying. We ask you for the God to help Christopher Lord if we respect Christs of voter load.

But we're just hope us check engine like come on and November Lord on the legendary. It doesn't make sure that his truck does not start leaving many other bleasures.

We asked the old name gang got name. Amen's good talk, good talking to y'all. Good time.

Where would you and everybody, We'll be right back. Welcome back to the Daily Show.

My guest tonight is an MSNBC anchor, host of the Latina to Latina podcast and author of the new book The Likability Trap. Please welcome, Alicia. I'm Menendez.

So this book, I.

Feel speaks perfectly to what we are subconsciously deal with in every single debate.

The Likability Trap.

How do you become likable as a candidate whilst at the same time still being yourself as a person.

Why is that so difficult to achieve?

It's difficult to achieve across the board because likability is so wildly subjective, but it's particularly challenging for women. If you're a woman who strives to lead, you are told one.

Of two things.

You're either told you're too much, too assertive, too aggressive, you need to tone it down. Or you're told you're not enough. You don't take up enough space, you don't take up enough oxygen, you don't have what it takes to lead. So women are told they can either be likable or they can be a leader, but there's almost no way for them to be both. And when you

It's interesting because in this race specifically, a lot of media coverage has been geared towards discussing Elizabeth Warren's likability. You know, whereas people before, like let's say, when Trump was running, they said, well, you know, I don't like him, but I think you can get the job done, and that was a common thread that went through the election.

It for the country she a secretary of State.

When she was secretary of State, its people liked her, independence like to her, Republicans liked her, Democrats liked her. And then immediately when she ran, people perceived it as now she was doing it for herself, and her likability dropped.

Why do you think that is well with men. We presume that it's in men's nature to want power and to grab for power. When women do that, it violates this expectation we have of women that they are communal, that they'll act communally. I mean there's an irony in that, right, which is most women run for office because they want to do something that benefits their community at large. But they're seen as it being a power grab, right because it's their name at the top of a ticket, and

An interesting place to be in as a woman who is a candidate, because you're in a race where people are looking at your likability, but then they also looking at your track record, which as you've seen, you know, people spoke about on the debate tonight. Ammy clobershaw I said, Look, I think there is a double stand for how much you have to have achieved as a woman to be on the stage, whereas the men can just come in with like, I have a few good ideas, and this is why I think I should be here.

When you look at the trap, how.

Do you think people can escape the trap? How can a woman be likable if that is something that someone needs to strive towards but then still achieve or be the best, or be the leader, etc.

You are doing such a good job of articulating how complicated this is. And women have been given two paths right. We've either been told we can do this gender correcting performance where we like sit in our chairs and are cautious about how we use our hands and how we use our voice, or we can just let it go. We can just choose not to care about likability. I don't think either of those paths work right, because if you do the first one, then you put the responsibility

It's a powerful stance to make, and you make a good pace for it in the book, Thank you so much for joining us on the show. A really fascinating look into the world of likability, The Likability Trap, is available now.

Alicia m and end As Everybody. We'll be right back.

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