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Trump Calls to Terminate the Constitution | Tessie McMillan

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Trump calls for certain parts of the Constitution to be terminated, the U.S. is out of the World Cup and New York Times columnist and University of North Carolina at Chapel Hill associate professor Tressie McMillan Cottom stops by.

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You're listening to Comedy Central coming to you from New York City, the only city in America. It's the Daily Show Today, hut Bucks are talking the history of drag. Here, Trusty McMillan, talcom It's the Daily Show with Driver Nowelcome everybody, Welcome to the Day Show. Thank you, thank you, thank you for being here. Thank you for being Yes, thank you for being you. Take a seat to everybody. We have got a great show for you tonight. Donald Trump

is now beefing with the Constitution. Dun't say. Sloan gets into drag and artificial intelligence could replace us all or has its already. So let's do this people. Let's come straight into today's headlines. All right. Before we get into the big stories, let's catch up on a few other things going on in the world, starting with the World Cup.

On Saturday, the world's biggest sportsing event kicked off the round of sixteen, with the Netherlands scoring yet another victory in the United States, learning firsthand why they call it the knockout stages. And this was especially humiliating for the US because the Dutch team plays in those little wooden shoes. So but but don't be sad. Don't be said. The good news for America is the next World Cup will be in the US, which means which means all the

players will be allowed to use guns. Don't worry, they don't worry. They can't use their hands to shoot them. Should be interesting. In international news, after months of protests over its strict Hidjab laws, Iran is reportedly considering abolishing its infamous morality police. Yeah, that's right, and if that happened, it will be wild. Iran might defund the police before Milwaukee. Speaking of morality police, some news out of the U. S.

Supreme Court this morning. The Justice has heard arguments on whether a Colorado based web designer can refuse to build websites for gay weddings, which she says violates her religious beliefs. And I'm sorry, but what is this web designer's process that making a wedding website violates her religious beliefs? Well, it's just like, okay, I'm adding your hotel block info, time and dat of ceremony, a hard court video of the two of you reach each other, and done out

of here. Man. All right, let's move on to some the biggest stories of the day, starting with Twitter. It's what Elon Musk vote for his midlife crisis instead of a Lamborghini. Over the weekend, Elon released the so called Twitter Files, which many conservatives had hoped would prove that Twitter colluded with Democrats to sense and news about Hunter Biden's laptop during the election. Instead, they mostly just showed the Biden campaign asking Twitter to take down nude photos

of Hunter Biden. So yeah, sorry, everyone, if you want to see naked people, you've got to go to every other website on the Internet. I guess. So. The Twitter files turned out to be a major letdown for conservatives, right, there was no proof of a conspiracy to help defeat Donald Trump. But you know who doesn't care about any of that, Donald Trump. Former President Donald Trump's false claims about the election now have him calling for the Constitution

to be terminated. With the revelation of massive and widespread fraud and deception in work and closely with big tech companies, the d n C and the Democratic Party, do you throw the presidential election results of out and declare the rightful winner, or do you have a new election? A massive fraud of this type and magnitude allows for the termination of all rules, regulations, and articles, even those sound

in the Constitution. Yeah, that's right. The Republican front running for presidents of the United States wants to terminate the Constitution because Twitter wouldn't allow him to see Hunter Biden's dick. Yeah, it's like, I want to see the VP. I want to see it. I want to see what I'm dealing with. Do you want to see Hunter Biden's dick? Just get a bag of cocaine like everyone else. Mr President? Also, why is this still news? Can anyone tell me? Like?

Why is this leaving? A hit? Like? Donald Trump thinks there's undermines the election. He thinks that about everything everything. However, the math equation starts. His answer is A is the same, it doesn't matter where. It's like A wait, I could come up like, I'm sorry, sir. The kitchen says, we've run out of the Mickey Mouse pancakes. This is the last straw we need to redo the election. We do have the Donald Duck waffles. It's too late. I'm storming

the capital. I'll have those to go please. And look, I get that Trump doesn't like to lose. By my man is over. You've got to move on, you know. Trump is like one of those guys who never stops trying to get back with his ex, Like he's texting her years and they're like, hey, you up and she's like, yeah, I'm up with my kids from my marriage. I'm like, oh, still playing hard to get her. I like that death. But honestly, though, what what a start to the Trump campaign.

First he had dinner with Nazi lovers. Now he's calling to scrap the constitution. What's next? What's he gonna give the Lincoln Memorial enormous boobs? And still the GPS gonna come out like, well, our person or what I've brought with a texta will recome. But I think our President Trump's Harker's on the right players. But enough of Trump and He's craziness. Let's calm things down with a news story out of Tampa, Florida, when we finally found the

onsets of the quantum physics paradox. What happens when a police officer pulls over the chief of police. Tampa's top cop has been placed on administrative leave after she flashed her badge, apparently using her status as police chief to get out of a traffic stop. After the deputy proceeds to explain to them why they were being pulled over, which, by the way, was because they were driving a golf card on a public road without the appropriate tags. This happened.

Is your camera on the police chief in Tampa? Oh, how are you doing? I'm doing good. Okay, I'm hoping that you'll just let us go to them. Okay, yeah, alright, folks, Well have a good night. Oh all right, do you ever need you then called? Okay? Serious, all right, thank you for your service. Oh you know, I don't know

what's funny in that video. First of all, First of all, I think it's crazy that she asks if the officer's buddy cam is on before incriminating herself, right, because what was she going to do if the buddy camera was off? Oh it's not recording quick dog wapping all over their head. Let's get out of here. Just hit him. And secondly, I love how she does that thing, like if you notice it, she does that thing that white people do where they act like it hurts them to pull rank

over you. He said. I think she's like, she's like, do you know it turns out I'm the I'm the chief of police. Yeah, that's I didn't want to bring it up. But I am white. People love doing that ship. Yeah, don't be at a hotel like can I get a late check out from my room? Be like I'm sorry, so we can't accommodate you all. But I do own the hotel. Oh yeah, I'm Brad Radisson. Yeah. That's what

I love about black people. It's not pretending Black people pretending that it pains them to wield their power for you. Doesn't tell you like, sorry, sorry, we can't do a late checkout for you, Like late check out for me, bitch, I own this hotel. Should I check out what I want? You're gonna tell the Kwan Radisson quin he can check out of his own hotel. I tell you you can

check out now. After this video came out, the mayor of Tampa suspended this police chief and because of the pressure, she was forced to resign, which can I just say, is the biggest waste of a scandal of all time. This is what you used your part. You realize there are police chiefs who have stolen millions of dollars in

drug money. Meanwhile, she's out here like, yeah, I pulled some strings and drove super slow on the highway, But Enough about that, let's move on to a story that had the incidet buzzing all weekend, and it's about artificial intelligence, which, by the way, is not when you regurgitate in the Atlantic article and act like you've thought of it for yourself, No,

for yours. People have been wondering when we would see the next step in natural language processing from the world of AI, and it looks like the future is already here. A new artificial intelligence is astounding the Internet with its ease of use and humanlike writing ability. Chat GPT was open to the public last weekend and many have already posted their interactions with the bot. So far, it's written television scripts, fixed coding errors, and even explained scientific concepts

in the voice of a pirate. Yeah that's right. For years, people have been saying robots might be able to pack boxes, but they will never be able to write a poem like human beings. Well, it turns out your shitty poetry has some competition because I don't know if you've used this chat box, but it is insane. Not only can it understand a question you're asking and then teach you about the most complicated topics, it can design a lesson plan.

It can give you the information and it's not regurgitating it, it's explaining it to you. It can also write out the answers, as if a pirate was teaching you. Understand how amazing that is, like quantum physicist, but a pirate on top of that, Like I wish I had this technology as a kid. The only reason I failed any subject is because the teacher was boring. But if Blackbeard was teaching me about physics, I would have remembered everything. Yeah, light operates as both a wave and a particle, the

same way you can operate. That's about I. Here man and fresh food walked up, plank man. Ah, don't forget today our hard work. Obviously not obviously Obviously this technology has a lot of people asking is this going to replace my job as a teacher or as a receptionist, journalist, or even an author, And the truth is, we don't really know. But it is interesting to see how our fears about a I have shifted radically over the years.

All Right, in the eighties and the nineties, we thought that in the future people would be like these damn machines are wiping out the human race, And now our fear is that in the future we're gonna be like these damn machines keep writing love letters to my wife, she's gonna leave me. And you gotta admit, you gotta admit it's weird that we're this obsessed with robots talking like humans, but we all hate talking to actual humans, right, Like everyone's using this like wow, it's like I'm talking

to my mom. It's like, hey, your mom is actually calling you right now. Let it go to voicemail. Let it go to voicemail asking if it's proud of me. All right, that's it for the headlines. But before we go to break, it's not to checking on all the latest social media transplot. Very on Ronnie chating everybody, dank

n graverirl, thank you, thank you? All right? Something online? Well, I've been pouring through tweets, Instagram's only fans, TikTok, snap chats, only fans, four chans, master Don's only fans again, and now I'm mentally ill. Here's what's trending the World Cup, where for ninety minutes, two countries can put politics aside and hate each other based on pure ethnicity. Today Croatia,

be Japan and Brazil knock South Korea out. And the thing about the World Cup is that when you come from a country like me Malaysia that's never in the World Cup, all you can do is cheerful people who look a little bit like you, Japan Korea, and then when they got eliminated, you just cheerful whoever is not

white So France. But the big story of the day, as you said, was the Ai chat bart, the fing Charles Dickens robot trying to make Siri look a literate personally, I don't like this bottle, okay, because every time you ask you a question, it cranks out a word think piece. Relax, We've got enough humans with opinions. I don't need my room about to develop a hot take on anti semitism. And by the way, did I miss an update or something?

Because we got robots writing sonnets here. But every time I call Verizon, that robot Caven recognized me saying yes, let's just bring back the picture. AI, bring back that one. That one was cool. They were putting break in the matrix. Now, that was useful, all right. And if you don't recognize this, that means that you're not on black Twitter enough, because that ship was popping, all right, follow me at stuff fry hotep and by the way, Joe for the black people.

And by the way, I know you're saying this AI is gonna take over a lot of jobs, Okay, and maybe it will, but I'm not worried about it taking over comedy jobs because AI can do what we do, all right. AI doesn't have the emotion, the artistry, or the fundamental ability to get hit in the balls. And as we know, nothing is as funny as getting hit in the balls. I mean, the magic of what we do is not a mathematical equation that can stay off. You see that, to see how funny that was? And

then I bought can never do that? See can kiss my ass too, dear too. Everyone's so excited about this thing, but I mean, look look at what people are tweeting about it. I mean, just look at look at this guy. Look at the idiot. What AI is the future? Oh wow? What a genius did this guy go to? M I T I mean, what's what's he gonna predict next? That Apple will come up with a new iPhone next year? I mean, I hope this guy's a bard, because no

humor write anything that's stupid. Anyways, travel I I gotta go me this really hot woman online. She really likes me, and she smiled as hell and she talks like a pirates. I'll see you later, loser. Well, good luck with that, Ronnie. She sounds like a real file. All right. When we come back, don't say Sloan is gonna school all of us on drags. So don't go away. Welcome back to the Daily Show. Drag shows are going through a tumultuous

time in America. On the one hand, it's never been more popular, but on the other hand, it's become the targets of huge right wing backlash, as we saw just this weekend in Ohio. Demon traders protested a drag storytelling event in Ohio over the weekend. It was supposed to take place at a church, but was canceled because of safety concerns. Well several dozen members of the far right Proud Boys and Patriot Front stood along the roads, touting

guns and face masks. Some chanted Reclaim America, others give a Nazi salute. You know, I don't know if it's a chemical reaction or a genetic predisposition, but any time a white man covers the facing white fabric. Ain't no good coming after that, Because all over America, Moe and more stories like this is popping up right with grown men are showing up to drag shows to fight the tyranny of people wearing dresses and having fun, which you've

gotta admit is little ironic, isn't it. It's just these guys running around angry like these grown men dressing up in these ridiculous costumes. It's not right. Are you in the military, sir, I know about the character I role play as as a Navy seal. Yeah, do you like it? Do you like it? And conservatives? Conservatives will give different reasons for why drag must be stopped, you know. Some

say it's immoral, Some say that it sexualizes kids. Some say that Money Exchange should have won Season seven of All Stars, and they will never forget that if you ask us. This just shows how little conservatives know about drag. So here to educate all of us is our very own don't say slow. Drag dates all the way back to the world's most ancient civilizations. I'm talking the Incas, the Aztecs, the Egyptians, basically anyone that could build a pyramid, also had a faious walk. I mean, why do you

think every man woman an eagle? And ancient Egyptian art had a smoky eye. Now, drag was originally done in these ancient civilizations for tribal and religious ceremonies. It's pretty much how priest got started wearing moon moves. It wasn't until modern times the drag played a role in entertainment, and not just any entertainment. I'm talking about the bad

bitch Bard himself, Shakespeare. Back in this time, men dressed and dragged to play women's roles, although that was really less about dragon more about keeping women out of active me sinks that doc be some bullshit at Horatio. So for a long time, the stage was pretty much the only place drag was acceptable. It wasn't until the eighteenth century in England that dragged performers started to express themselves

outside the theater. They met at private residences where they could safely dress as their female alter egos, and those places became known as molly houses. And it was at these molly houses where the first prominent drag queen was born, Princess Sara Fina. She was the first drag queen to take her drag out of the privacy of the Molly houses and into public events like masquerade balls. And it was a big deal and incredibly brave because it meant

volunteering to deal with cat calling. Now, while eighteenth century England gave us drag queens, nineteenth century America gave us drag balls. It's the only time queens colonized the country and made it better. One of the most famous drag performers at that time was a former enslaved African named William Dorsey, the Queen Swan. Dorsey slaved so hard he

went on to become a pioneer of modern ballroom culture. Now, there are no existing photos of the Queen herself, because how dare you she was too glamorous to have her image captured by you peasants now, But for reference, historians believe her look was probably something like this. Now, that is fashion come through Brigard Tent. America's drag balls brought

the culture to the next level and Harlem. They became so popular that men and women would come from all over to present their looks to a panel of judges pageant style. And you know, there's something comforting and knowing that even hundreds of years ago, people were telling someone to their face that they were a messy bitch whose outfit is trashed the circle of life. In the early nineteen hundreds, one of the top drag performers was William

Dalton or better known by his drag name Julian Eltage. Damn, look at those outfits. They can play both leads and coins of Lanka. Just look how good her makeup is. And that was before went and wild. She pulled that off with house paint and beat juice. Julian was able to take her drag mainstream by performing on Broadway and even in front of King Edward the Seventh. I mean, of course he liked it, that Duke of rocker Cat.

In fact, the King was so impressed he gives to Julian with a bulldog, which personally, I don't think of a great prize. I prefer trophies that don't need to ship three times a day. Drag balls then exploded throughout the nineteen twenties and thirties, but like with most things, popularity brings out the haters. Mainstream actors started linking them to homosexuality, and soon masquerade laws were passed prohibiting cross jessing in public, and you know what that meant. That's right,

Harry Styles World Door was canceled. Due to these laws, Drag went underground again and it wasn't until the late eighties that it returned to the mainstream. But when it came back, oh, it came back in a big way. Drag performers were featured in major motion pictures, including one of the best known sisters of the silver screen, Divine, who starred in the movie Hairspray and was the inspiration for the Disney character Ursula Damn Kirby. Incredible singing boys

and impeccable taste. Are you sure we're not talking about me? Thanks to all these brave drag performers, today we have hit shows featuring drag queens and we have a good reason to eat a meal as beautiful as brunch. So to all the outrage conservatives trying to drag drag through the mud, open a history book. Now. I know you hate those, but now they have pictures. Thank you so much. Stay tuned because when we come back, you know kind of best selling Walter Church and McMillen Salon was drawing

right on the show. You don't want to listen to m Welcome back today's show. My guests tonight is a professor at u n C Chapel Hills and a New York Times columnist. She's one of my favorite guests, so I'm delighted to have her back on the show. Please welcome Trascy McMillan, Coottum Tressy McMillan, Cotton, Welcome back to the Daily Show. Welcome back to me. Indeed, it's a pleasure to be back, right, or do I say professor? I'd love to know what you prefer, because you you

have so many prestigious titles. You know it's with New York Times best selling author, you know, it could be professor, it could be mccarthur. Is it a genius ground that they give you. You can say that. I think I'm not supposed to say that. The Foundation would prefer not. But that's interesting. So they say you're a genius, but they're not. They're like, you're not allowed to say it of yourself exactly. Kind of like your mother tells you,

some things are best said about you by others. I see, Oh, you're amazing, but don't ever think that about yourself. Yeah, that's well. Well then I will say to the genius professor that is Trissy, welcome to the show. Thank you very much, What a time to have you on, because you know, there are a few people who I've enjoyed learning from engaging with um studying because you're not just a professor. You're a sociologist. You're somebody who looks at

the world. You study what has happened, what is happening, and how you think it will happen going forward, and right now feels like an interesting time of everything this going on. Let let's start with you know, one of our favorite platforms that we chad on all the time. Twitter. It's been a really interesting time on Twitter right now. Yes, that's an understatement. I try. I try specialize of those. UM. I would love to know your opinion on Twitter itself

and how we see its role in our society. There are some who say, because it is a business, Elon can do whatever he wants. He paid it, he paid for it, he can take it, he can he can do as he pleases. On the other hand, there are people whore saying Elon taking over Twitter, which has become this public square, only goes to show how you know, dangerous can be to have billionaires defining what everybody else can speak, or what what what this speech might or

may not be. And all of those things are true, they are not true to my mind, in equal parts. So I think the bigger story here, uh, is that we outsourced the public square to the private sector. Right. Twitter becomes or it feels like, the public square, but it has never operated in practice as a public square. It cannot. It is not owned by the state or

by the people. And in fact, one of the things that minority people, queer people have said for years about Twitter is that they could not participate the same way that really powerful brands could participate, or politicians or particular specially trolls. Uh. And so in a true public square, there would be some way for people to talk back right to the powers that be. That's never been Twitter,

That's never been any social media platform. That is the difference between a business and something that is truly public. So it is a business. Elon Musk can buy it, as he was eventually you know, forced to do um uh. You know, he wrote a check and then his behind had to cash it. And that's how we find ourselves here, uh. That we have used it to try to express sort of you know, people power does not mean that the

people own it or have any authority over it. What that says to me, and what I think it says to many other people, is that there should be a public space. We are in an information society. Information is power and it is money. Why don't we have a civic blick square that exists on the internet? Elon must buy and Twitter would not have mattered if the state

was competing with Twitter. That's interesting, Yeah, but do you think but do you think, you know, many of these ideas are sound except when you add in that the states in question would be America. Yes, no, And I mean that's not because of America's in netnos or anything, but rather because America sees everything through the lens of you know, left or rights, Democrat, Republican always it doesn't

matter what the issue is. And it feels like America itself would never be able to create something like this because both sides wouldn't agree on what the thing should or shouldn't be. Oh no, absolutely, I mean we see this debate about everything that is publicly governed, particularly our schools, right where we cannot agree on whether or not our schools are indoctrinating our children or should be preparing them for the economy of the future. Somehow Americans wanted to

do both. Right, don't teach my children anything but make sure that they can be competitive in the economy of the future. But you know what that is the mess of democratic participation. It does not mean that we get it right. It means that there is a way to get it right sometimes, so we don't have to have the whole thing figured out for us to invest in publicness.

So one of you know, I teach at a public university in North Carolina, and I teach a lot of students who will go on to work in libraries and in the information sector. You know, libraries are to me the shining example on the hill of what a public space can be. Are they perfect? Absolutely not? But do they welcome people into them and meet people where they are? Absolutely? Can America do that? Yes? Now, do we have to fight to do it every step of the way, Absolutely,

But we can have that fight. You can't have that fight when an entity is owned by a single meglomaniac. You know, Well, when we when we talk about these spaces and we talk about these ideas, and we talk about these conversations. There's no denying that Twitter and many places like it have benefited from the diverse array of voices that have now been part of the platform. You know, you wouldn't know what was happening on the ground in the same way in Iran were it not for Twitter.

You know, you wouldn't know what was happening on the ground in the same way in Charlottesville were it not for Twitter. It has become, as you said, it has the illusion at times of a public square. But many people have used it to that effect. I would love to know, you know, from your perspective, if somebody who has seen your own journey, you know, from general obscurity to now becoming somebody whose voice is so respected and recognized.

You know, you right for the New York Times as part of the ed you you you're shaping people's opinions. How do you find the balance well or how do you inspire people? You teach to think critically about the world that they're living in, because half of the things we know are taught to us, and then at some point we have to decipher between what we've been taught is the truth, and then what is the truth or

with a grave even exists? How how do you even begin that journey as a teacher and as a learner who's constant because you're constantly learning. Well, I think that is part of it. I try to always be a learner. It's really easy, I think, to develop and grow in your career and forget how overwhelming it is to learn something new for the first time. So I try to be an idiot as much as humanly possible, you know.

I enroll in something, I take up something that I'm just absolutely horrible at doing because I want to feel how vulnerable it feels to learn it. It is a very vulnerable space. So when I am feeling generous, I think that there is a not insignificant part of the American public that isn't so much afraid of the other as they are of being ignorant. And some people would rather be angry than stupid, and so figuring it out

is actually really hard. This is something I've learned as I've taught people, uh, And so there's a certain amount of vulnerability. I think we have to share with each other to say that just because I have achieved something in one part of the world or in one profession doesn't mean I know everything. Now. The challenge for us is that we have a culture that absolutely likes to

turn every success story into a universal story of genius. Right, so you found it Facebook, and now you can solve world hunger, as if those have anything to do with each other. Uh, you know, So that is a problem

of the culture. But I don't think it has to be that way, And I actually think one of the good things about Twitter has been how many people have been willing to model learning and public so that other people could see that it doesn't have to strip you of your status or your position, that learning can happen without you, you know, flailing about I think I'll miss

that about Twitter. You know, it ends eventually. Listen all social media apps and uh there'll be something new, obviously, but I don't know that anything else would be able to capture. That was one of the best things about Twitter. Um It was a space for people to see different kinds of genius, that you could be a good in one domain still learning in another domain, that you could risk it. It is something that I enjoyed doing personally, and I think that it was never the the apps

in tension. Listen, people turned it into that. That is not what it was designed to do. You think that's because we innately want to do that as human beings. I do. I have to believe that human beings are fundamentally curious. And social media is only popular because we're curious. We go there because we want to see. We're nosy, we you know, we we want to rub renect the world, you know. Uh. And so what it is done, it is it's made it profitable, made our curiosity profitable. Uh.

And it has made our curiosity politically polarized. But that doesn't mean the curiosity is bad. I actually think it is a thing that separates us, you know, from the rest of uh one of the animal keenom. I don't want to. I don't wanna throw shade on animals. Animals are good, They're are pretty curious. Yeah, actually are pretty curious. Yeah. I think we're eight if we're lucky, right, you know. But it does separate us, I think, from like a brick wall. It does. Indeed, it doesn't need shade to

all the bricks has been thrown. Animals haven't spent. I could talk to you, I could talk to you for hours. But that's why we have your books, That's why we have some of your tweets. Thank you again for joining me on the show. Thank you for everything appreciated. Thank you so much. One more time, tutm that want to talk from everybody, I'm gonna thank you quick break all the right back after this. Thank you, Agamimal. We'll got

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