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The Supreme Court Adopts Its First Ethics Code | Steve Kornacki

Nov 15, 202326 min
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Leslie Jones discusses SCOTUS's new ethics code, Senator Markwayne Mullin tries to throw down in a Senate hearing, and Dulcé Sloan weighs in on NYC parents filing a petition against non-binary performers in the Macy's Thanksgiving's Day parade. Troy Iwata steps out of his comfort zone and into the cuddle zone to see what this practice is really about. And NBC News & MSNBC national political correspondent, Steve Kornacki, chats with his biggest fan, Leslie Jones, about how he keeps all the facts straight on his ‘Big Board’, what he knows about all 3,143 counties in the U.S., and how he foresees the 2024 election based on current polling. 

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From New York City, the only city in America. It's the show that you think you news. This is the Daily Show with your host, Leslie Shoon. Ye welcome, says a Daily Show. I'm your host, Leslie Jones, and I'm back for day two.

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That's right.

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You can't get rid of me, no matter how many of those healthy snacks you put in my dressing room. And tonight is gonna be the best show ever because I'm gonna be interviewing Steve Karnakilly.

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I love him.

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Okay, do you take care of like my dress? Do I need to put on glasses so I can seem smart? Like you know, I want to be smart? Okay, Okay, how many states are there? Because he's gonna ask me how many states there are, Steve, He's gonna ask me how many How many are there? Somebody tell me fifty one? Okay, okay, okay, you know what.

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Deep breath, deep breath. Okay, we're all gonna be calm, deep breath. Now, let's get these headlines. Let's kick things off with the Supreme Court.

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Oh, they make rules for everyone else to live by. What we're allowed to say? What we can do with our bodies, how gay our.

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Cakes can be.

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But it turns out that they we had no rules from themselves until now.

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Let's turn out to an historic move by the Supreme Court, the nine Justices adopting a formal code of conduct for the first time in the Court's history this morning.

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A formal code of conduct now in place. After a steady drip of stories on some of the justice's undisclosed trips, private jet rides, and other perks, this fourteen page document, signed by all nine justices, now laying out how they should avoid the appearance of impropriety when to recuse from

a case, and reaffirming the existing rules around gifts. Public pressure to do something has been mounting in recent months after reporting about Justice Clarence Thomas in particular and year's worth of unreported luxury vacations paid for by a top conservative mega downer, something Thomas said he believed he didn't need to report at the time.

Speaker 1

Are you kidding me?

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You don't pretend that you didn't know the stuff you did was wrong until now. Having good judgment is the entire point of being a judge. Okay, you're supposed to weigh everything and make a smart decision. That's why there's a bitch with a scale outside your office.

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Just ask her.

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But now they finally have some ethics rules, which is so embarrassing the Supreme Court when thousands of years without needing an ethics code until these corrupt baskets came along. It's like how tide Pods had to add do not eat label after all them TikTok has started dying.

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And you know what, here's what really pisses me off.

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Though the Ethics Code isn't even enforceable, so it's not gonna be.

Speaker 1

It's not gonna work.

Speaker 2

Okay, if you want to hold people accountable, you got to be able to fire them. Like I used to work at ups and I did a good job because I could get fired. But if I couldn't get fired, do you know how many things I would have did to them? Package do you know how many of my ex boyfriends would have got a horse's head?

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Let's move on to the Congress.

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On a normal day, Congress is the place where America's representatives gathered together for a respectful debate about the issues. But today one senator wanted all.

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The smoke and the intense level of frustration being seen in the Senate. Check out this nasty exchange involving Oklahoma Republican Mark Wayne mullen, Teinster's leader Sean O'Brien, and then Bernie Sanders trying to play peacemaker.

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You tweeted at me one, two, three, four, five times and let me read what the last one said. Quit the tough guy act in these Senate hearings. You know where to find me any place, anytime, cowboy.

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Sorry, this is a time.

Speaker 5

This is a place. If you want to run your mouth, we can be too consenting adults.

Speaker 1

We can finish it here.

Speaker 6

Okay, that's fine, perfect, you want to do it now, I'd love to do it right now.

Speaker 1

We'll stand your butt up. Then you stand your butt.

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Up, we'll stop it your pullet.

Speaker 8

Oh no, sit down.

Speaker 1

You know you're a United States Senate.

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Back to Funday, shut up.

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That was about the fight.

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I want to see that. But you know what I knew this dude was trouble from the moment I heard his name, Mark Way all one word his parents. His parents didn't even love him enough to pick one single name for him.

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They just shut up two names together and called it today.

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Calm down, Mark Wayne. Isn't some shit I want to hear on c SPAN. It's what you hear when you watch an episode of Cops. But more importantly, is that what America has come to?

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People fighting in the Senate because it is it as I won't inn Lindsey Graham. I want you and the right.

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Tag crow bring your weird ass.

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I can beat your ass.

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Mitch Mitch, Mitch. Oh, somebody already hit him.

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All right. Finally, it's almost Thanksgiving.

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That time of the year you got to listen to all your worst relatives complaining about things that they just don't understand.

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And this year the complaining started early.

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Macy's has been drawn into the culture wars, facing backlash this morning over its annual Thanksgiving Day parade. Nearly twenty thousand people have signed a petition blasting the upcoming event as a quote non binary and transgender extrafaganza. They're upset that two non binary Broadway stars are scheduled to perform, including Alex Newall, who just won a Tony Award. The group behind the petition claims Macy's does not have the best interests of children in mind.

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What wait minute, sorry, did I miss something? Did we solve world hunger?

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Is war over?

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Is the homeless crisis done?

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Because the stranger's genitals in a parade is literally the last thing someone should be worrying about right now.

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When it comes to parades, the only thing you are allowed.

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To complain about is the trassy. Y'all do so much complaining. That's why your turkey tastes like burnt asshole because you focusing on the wrong thing.

Speaker 1

Put the Internet down.

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And pick up a turkey based stuff. Who's even watching the parade nowadays?

Speaker 1

You did? You not finish all of Netflix?

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To be honest, for a long time, I didn't think that the Macy's Day Parade was even a real thing. I thought it was just a make a wish thing for our roker.

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For more on the.

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Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade, Let's go live to Macy's and Harrold Square.

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With Dull Say Sloan, do go.

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What do you make about the people complaining about this parade?

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I need I think they need to figure out what they want.

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I mean, they're so obsessed with general rolls and who's got what genitals?

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Then?

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Do we want to make the balloons anatomically correct?

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Do they need to see Clifford's big red.

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Dog coming down the street. And what about SpongeBob? What's in them square pants? And can we talk about the fact that he's a kitchen sponge in the seat? See that's always bothered me. You know what, we need to get that figured out before we talk about his dick. Listen, parades are gay?

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All right? To their court?

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Listen, you got colorful costumes, choreography.

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Ponies and Charlie Brown serving face.

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And everyone is happy. Only gay people can do that, all right? All parades are gay? Preparades?

Speaker 2

Well, well, you know not every parade is gay.

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What about the Clinton in march? Still pretty game?

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Miss Lovely?

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Think about it. That marching is choreography. Those robes, it's a costume.

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And once again ponies, now they're not serving face because you know, huh, but.

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You know, not everyone can.

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I mean, okay, duel think let me ask you something.

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What type of parade would make you happy?

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I thought you never asked? Okay, all right, picture this, okay, Morris Chestnut right.

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Leading a troop of Morris Chestnuts, dancing under a balloon of Morris Chestnut and rounding up the back as an oiled up MOR's chestnut roasting over an open door set.

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How can we make that?

Speaker 10

How can we go bro, I'm trying to go from me.

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Come on, I'm.

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Got to give it now, give it up.

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Where we come back, we'll find out the newest way to get a hunt. So don't go away. Welcome back to the Daily Show.

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We hear a lot.

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About how people are so lonely these days, but some of them have found a solution.

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Troy Ewada went to find out more human touch. Is it a good thing?

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Some people crave it, weird and now it's easier than ever for them to get it.

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One of those booming businesses professional cuddling.

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Christie actually professional cuddler, and Josh is her client.

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A lot of times people are just looking for someone to just spend some time with.

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As one who goes through life avoiding human contact, I wasn't thrilled about meeting someone who made a living from touching other people. I have to admit it does sound a bit scammy. Seems like you're just ripping off people who've never heard of a body pillow.

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It is not just about the physical act of cuddling. The body pillow cannot talk to you, right, I.

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Would see the fact that my pillows can't talk back to me as an asset.

Speaker 8

I totally understand that. But we have a code of conduct. We talk a lot about consent.

Speaker 6

And how does one become a cuddalyst? Do you need a degree like a physical therapist or is it like a fake certification like a sandwich artist.

Speaker 8

It's fine to be skeptical, but when you have nurturing touch that is very much wanted, your level of oxytocin increases in your body. You are flooded with these wonderful few good love hormones, so touch the privation. This links to a lot of things. It can be linked to impulsiveness, anxiety, stress, and low job performance.

Speaker 6

Troy, that's amazing, that's fascinating.

Speaker 8

What it seems like you might be a good candidate for professional cuddling.

Speaker 10

I'm fine.

Speaker 8

How do you deal with stress and anxiety?

Speaker 6

I deal with it like most normal humans do.

Speaker 8

I think they're probably healthier ways you can deal with your anxiety.

Speaker 6

Okay, Well, my self therapy is free and only requires a nearby abandoned warehouse, whereas these cuddle sessions could cost anywhere from eighty to one hundred and fifty dollars?

Speaker 10

Who would pay for that? I've been a cuddle client for about two years.

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Now.

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What type of responses do you get when you tell people that you're a cuddle client?

Speaker 10

Why would you do that? Is it safe? Is there sex involved? I thought that, Yeah, I've gotten desperate. Are you horny?

Speaker 6

Are you single?

Speaker 10

It's so none of the above.

Speaker 6

So you are in a relationship. So what was your partner's reaction?

Speaker 10

My partner said, is there something that's lacking here? The answer was absolutely not. It was more about self care.

Speaker 6

Now, what are the benefits, you know, other than getting rid of all that extra money in your bank account?

Speaker 10

I just feel more personally resourced, cared for.

Speaker 6

Why cuddling when there are so many other obvious ways to deal with your emotions? Like what?

Speaker 10

Why don't you come observe a session?

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Okay, how long does this normally go?

Speaker 10

This is gonna go for about an hour? Quietly? Silently?

Speaker 6

Oh the cops, I I mean quiet, I'm not even you're here. Hi, it's it's me again. I So, just to confirm there's nothing sexual like happening here.

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Would you like to just sit down and ask some questions?

Speaker 6

Absolutely? I would really enjoy that oh, okay, thank you so much for that. It's up and close, VIP and the splash zone. Could you explain how you can participate in something so intimate without wanting to take it a step further?

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The most important thing is that if at any point she is uncomfortable, that she will let me know. If I'm uncomfortable, I will let her know.

Speaker 6

So how do we break down the stigma and negative connotations for all those closed minded oaths?

Speaker 10

I think we normalize it by talking about it and just letting people know that there's something that they may not have considered.

Speaker 12

You could try a cuttle session.

Speaker 1

Okay, all right, well.

Speaker 10

Just no, none, right, this is my session. Okay, it's a book a session, okay, exactly.

Speaker 6

Okay, I needed a moment before I willingly spooned a stranger. I do see there are benefits, and I have been stressed. We've got climate change, race relations, people drinking orange juice with pulp. Just eat an orange. But it doesn't mean I have intimacy issues. Okay, maybe there is some stuff I need to work on. Bernadette does seem at peace, and what's the worst that could happen? I get a well needed nap.

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Yaha, it was cuddle time.

Speaker 6

This is amazing. Is it gonna cost extra it if I like open up the floodgates a little bit?

Speaker 1

Not at all? Why Why do you let me quick? Yana?

Speaker 10

That's the cuddlists were right.

Speaker 6

I felt transformed and my hormones were flying high. I was a new man, ready to embrace the world through cuddles.

Speaker 10

Thank you, Joe.

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When we come back, Steve for Nacky be joining me on the shows of the Dollar.

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Welcome back to the Daily Show.

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My guest tonight is an author and a national political correspondent for NBC News and MSNBC, and I'm totally obsessed with him.

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He has gotten me through every election. He is the King of the Kakis, and he has an apartment in my heart.

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I have never met him in person until this.

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Moment, so I am so excited to.

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Welcome and finally see live and in person, right here for real, Steve Cornackay, Okay, so that's great to meet you. Oh my god, it's so crazy that we've never met before, you know, so, I'm pretty sure you know that I'm totally obsessed.

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I've seen some clips.

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Would you like to see the big clip that they made of our love take take away, see Kanacky is the sexiest nerd on TV.

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When he would grab that thing and.

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Be like no and then mark on the boy, I was like, oh God, just keep solving the problems, mister Kanakay.

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Dammit, that is it's just sexy to me.

Speaker 10

What is that a seventh Is that a seventh scene?

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How do you put that calculator? I was like, what you're gonna tell me me exactly? Your cactus and your gap shirt and your regular time dude and your two tone belts you've.

Speaker 1

Been along to that.

Speaker 2

I am so embarrassed, but not really so when you're standing at that big h and you got that damn calculator, how do you keep all your facts straight?

Speaker 1

Well?

Speaker 9

Fortunately, I mean we've got great technology now. It's amazing.

Speaker 1

You know.

Speaker 9

I've been, as you say, an election nerd for a lot of my life, and what was possible on an election night, say twenty five years ago, is a fraction of what's possible now. So there's so much information loaded into that board. There's so much we can do with it. Any given county, any given state, any given congressional district, demographic information, so we're able to show what's happening in real time with a depth and I think a sophistication. Hopefully it just wasn't possible before.

Speaker 1

That was such a sophisticate. So let me ask a question. Do you know every single county?

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And I have at some point encountered all of them in getting ready for elections? There are three and forty three.

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I will admit this.

Speaker 9

I'll go through, you know, a state for an election, and when it is time to go for that state, I'll know them all, but I will not retain a lot of them afterwards. So it's the big swing states and presidentials I'm much stronger on than the states that aren't necessarily competitive.

Speaker 2

Okay, I have so many important I really do. Okay, so Biden is losing to Trump. Should we be freaked out right now?

Speaker 9

I mean, so, there's New York Times polls that came out last week the six states we think will decide the election in twenty twenty four, and yeah, they had Trump ahead in five of those six states. They are all states that Trump had lost in twenty twenty. So the thing that's interesting to me is if you look back at the twenty twenty election from this point, fall of twenty nineteen. On to election day, there was literally not a single poll that ever had Trump ahead of

Biden nationally. We've now had multiple polls that show Trump ahead of Biden. So there is a different atmosphere around this looming and we'll see what happens in the primaries. But this is looking likely to be the matchup again, and Trump is showing a strength or Biden is showing a weakness that wasn't there the last time in the run up to the election. So I think I take it, I would take it very seriously.

Speaker 1

Yeah, well, okay, King Steve, Why is Trump still able to run? Am I confused?

Speaker 2

What He's being indicted everywhere? How is he still able to run for president?

Speaker 9

Well, you know, look it's a two term limit, not a one term limit, so he can. You know, he's served one term. We haven't had a president in modern times lose reelection and then four years later say hey, I'm running again. You know, George Bush Senior went happily into retirement. Jimmy Carter went and built houses. You know, it's been a while since you have had a president try to do this, but you can, and you bring

up all the legal issues around Trump. Those are hasn't been convicted of anything, and you know, it's obviously going to be a major factor, I think, just looming over the campaign. But from an eligibility standpoint, you know, it looks like there's you know, there's no issue that makes no sense.

Speaker 2

Okay, Okay, So it could it's a real chance that Trump becomes the Republican nominee.

Speaker 9

I mean, certainly, again, we're talking polls right now. He is at a level of dominance over that Republican field that we haven't seen from a candidate in a Republican contest in twenty four years. The last one was George W. Bush, and George W. Bush won the nomination in two thousand. He had leads the size that Trump has right now. This is the first time since Bush we've seen a Republican consistently pulling this well in the Republican primaries. Now,

Bush did get a scare in two thousand. John McCain won some states put a scare into him. Maybe you know, a DeSantis, maybe a Haley. It's looking like if there's going to be a threat to him, it's one of those two.

Speaker 1

You know.

Speaker 2

Well, Okay, so I want to ask you to explain the electoral college, because I feel like that's something I.

Speaker 1

Can understand from you. Okay. I don't want to sound.

Speaker 2

Stupid in front of you, my love, but you don't know what the electorian college was. I just started with where politicians went to college to learn about politics.

Speaker 1

So what is it?

Speaker 9

It's I mean, it's a bit of a throwback to the earliest days of the country. But how it functions now is essentially the handed it. Who wins the vote in a state wins the number of electoral votes that that state has. It gets very complicated in Okay.

Speaker 1

See, I feel like there's math, Matt.

Speaker 2

Okay, but I did something kind of a woofye okay, So okay, I.

Speaker 1

Just you know, I just I got your little present. Yes, it's a calculator. I put your name on the back. It's pretty long, but okay, thank you.

Speaker 9

So we can figure those things out and look for this next election.

Speaker 2

Yes, if you use my calculator, I'm gonna lose.

Speaker 1

Okay, let me ask you one more important question. I mean, yes, I heard that you didn't.

Speaker 2

Know who Taylor Swift was, which I don't care.

Speaker 1

But do you know who Beyonce is? Yes? Okay, good. I'm gonna have the divorce Steak. You are awesome. Be sure to.

Speaker 2

Watch Steve Karnaki do his thing on NBC and MSNBC.

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