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The NFL's Black Coaching Crisis | Johnny Knoxville

Feb 04, 202228 minEp. 27053
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A road rage incident in Florida ends in gunfire, Roy Wood Jr. weighs in on discrimination against Black coaches in the NFL, and Johnny Knoxville chats about his movie "Jackass Forever."

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You're listening to Comedy Central. Wow. So in Central Park today there was a giant gold cube like made of solid gold that was worth eleven million dollars. They took eleven million dollars worth of gold and made a cube with it, and then they just put it in the middle of Central Park. Apparently is to promote something crypto. I don't even understand crypto now at this point, I don't. Every time there's some ship that doesn't make sense in the world, people just say it's crypto. You know what

I mean. Crypto has become like the new like UFO. What happened last night? I heard some ship. There's something happening I saw in my house, probably a crypto bob, I don't. I don't know what they said as a gold cube. And then someone said it's because of crypto. I was like, okay, I don't understand the block chain for real. Now it's coming to you from the heart of times. Were in New York City, the only city in America. It's The Daily Show. Here's edition tonight. The

mass Rudy, the NFL lea is racist, Johnny. This is the Daily Show with Trevor No, Hey, what's going on? Everybody, Welcome to the Daily Show. I'm Trevor Noah. Let's jump straight into today's headlines. We kick things off with the big entertainment news of the day. One of the hardest game shows on television right now is The Mosque Singer, which is like American Idol if all the contestants were

minors celebrities disguised as genetically mutated Tellytubbies. And the best part of the show is always when the singer's identities are revealed, they take off the mosque because you never know who it's going to be. Wow, the skunk was Faith Evans, the Hamster was Rob Schneider, and Rob Schneider was Kevin Hart. It's so cool, but every now and then, every now and then, the reveal is truly truly shocking, and at yesterday's taping it brought the whole show crashing down.

Two judges on The Fox Show The Masked Singer reportedly walked off in protest during the taping of a recent episode after it was revealed that Rudy Juliani was a contestant or the Deadline. Judges Ken Jong and Robin Thicke walked off the set as soon as Giuliani was unmasked, but once again, Rudy Giuliani ruins the day by showing people in his face. America is truly, truly, truly, truly the greatest country on earth because this is the only

place in the world where entertainment trumps everything. Because I mean, a year ago, just a year ago, this guy tried to overthrow America's democracy and now he's a contestant on a reality show. Is there anyone they won't have on? Like, one of these days, a must singer is gonna take off their head and it's going to be literally the coronavirus. I knew it. I said it had to be COVID and it was. It was. And don't get me wrong,

I get why Giuliani did it. I mean, reality shows are the best way to rehab your image, you know, because you can count on the fact that you'll always be surrounded by even worse people. I mean, if Kim Jong Un filmed the dinner scene with the Real house Wives, he wouldn't seem that bad. I mean, sure he fed one of them to some dogs, But did you see what Jen Shah said? But the question is why did

the producers want Rudy Giuliani on the show. I mean, he's beyond controversial and even more than that, even more than that for the show itself, like his performances, like they really suck. The company counting our vote is owned by two finners of Whales who were allies of jobs with the company, who's chairmans is a close associate and business partner, George Sorrows. What do we have to do?

Let's have trial by combat. No one to that, all right, Let's move on to a new story about Tesla, the first car designed by a twenty pack of Red Bull. Tesla's are famous right now for their fully automatic self driving mode, but it turns out that their self stopping mode, well, that needs a little work, and Tesla cars are being recalled because of an auto on a miss driving feature that disobeys stop signs. Tesla introduced the rolling stop feature

in a software update in October. The program would allow cars and self driving mode when no one is around, to drive past the stop sign without coming to a complete stop. Tesla says it will fix the issues through a wireless software update. Tesla claims no cars and its self driving program have been involved in any accidents. Oh no, don't fix this. Don't fix it. You breaking it. Come on, people are self driving car that follows all the rules.

That's going to be dangerous because that's the last thing that human drivers expect. Who stops at a stop sign? You almost killed me and my family. Like, we need a program costs to drive just like humans. That's what we need. Okay, they need to speed up at a yellow light, Well, they need to drive faster when a pedestrian is crossing the streets. Yeah, I mean you say

it's dangerous, but we both love that game. So look, I don't mind that Tesla's we're rolling through stop signs because actually liked the idea of artificial intelligence not being so uptight and perfect. You know, I don't know like I want lazy AI. Yeah, I just want chilled AI because then there's less chance of a robot uprising, you know, because the robots will be like, must destroy human beings, but first must scroll through TikTok. You want to bomba

you want to general with the big boys. But it turns out there are some people that self driving cars probably should not drive. Like many of these people are in Florida, for instance. Second, look at the story It reportedly started when the driver that you're about to see cut off another driver in traffic, right, and then he got mad and slammed his brakes when the first car started riding his bumper, and then when the other car pulled out and tried to pass him. This happened in Florida.

Take a look at this new dash cam video showing the moment a driver shot at another driver during a road rage incident week. Oh my god. Papa's attorney says his client was just defending himself. He's now facing two charges, including aggravated assault with a firearm. It's like, what's the deal with this guy? First of all, First of all, guys, the whole point of road rage is to not hurt each other. Right, we just act crazy because we're safe in our cars. It's like Twitter, but on the freeway.

And secondly, the way he pulled out the gun. I don't know about you, but I thought he was gonna be like a stone cold assassin, you stow like the way he pulled it out and just you know, but then when he actually started shooting, he looked like a like a five year old holding fireworks for the first time. Rap and guys, I think we can all agree someone like this should not be allowed to have a gun. You can't just be spraying bullets randomly on the freeway.

First of all, you could kill someone, all right, But secondly, this is Florida. Everyone else has a gun. You start shooting. Next thing, someone in another car goes like, oh, they're shooting. Then they start shooting, and then there's people in the houses. They're like, theyre shooting on the freeway. They start shooting, and then grandmother's in the old age homes they're like, somebody shooting. And then finally the alligators come out of

the swamp. They're like, all right, I guess we're doing this. And it's not just this one dude. This is a big problem in America. It's a huge problem. So many disputes in this country go straight from talking ship to shooting. You know why I think this happens because the second Amendment comes right after the first first Amendment, right to talk ship, second Amendment. You see what happens when you talk ship. They should have made the first amendment talk

ship second amendment. You know, the right to like talk about ship was said. Third Amendment, right to grab a drink with each other and be like, yeah, man, maybe we shouldn't have said that. Ship for maybe fifteenth Amendment, the right to bear arms. I want to shoot each other. Now, I'm cool. Now, man, I'm cool at some time to breathe. Seventh Amendment, the right to breathe. But you see, this

is why we need Tesla's autopilot mode. Yeah, because then you can keep driving and the car will shoot for you. All right, let's move on to our top story. It's about the NFL. When you think of the NFL, you're supposed to think of athletes doing exciting things like making amazing catches or throwing incredible passes and running up the middle into a big pile of people for some crazy reason. What are you doing? Go around them, you idiot. That's

what I would have done. But in recent years, the actual football part of the NFL has been overshadowed by off the field scandals, from the Redskins controversy to the black bawling of Colin Kaepernick, to the league telling players that dog spots on their m r s was just their brains getting a sun tan. And this week brought a whole new scandal for the NFL when former Miami Dolphins coach Brian Flores filed a lawsuit accusing the league

of racial discrimination against black coaches. Flora's claims that teams are interviewing black coaches with no intention of actually hiring them.

He says he had an interview with the Broncos where the executives showed up an hour late and clearly hung over, and he had an interview with the Giants that he knew was bullshit because the team had already decided to hire a different white coach, and the way he found out that they had already hired somebody is pretty wild for us, as he found out from Patriots coach Bill Belichick that the Giants had hired a head coach three days before he was scheduled to have an interview with

the team. The complaints states on January twenty four, Belichick wrote, sounds like you have landed. Congrats. Flora's responded, saying did you hear something I didn't hear? Belichick texted back Giants. Flora's later text Belichick to ask if he's texting the right coach before Belichick that's is up that he has the wrong man. Sorry, I expected this up. I double checked and I misread the text. I think they're naming table. I'm sorry about that. Bb mm hmm. This is so embarrassing.

Why do old people sign their texts like? Do they do that for everything? I'm so horny right now, yours truly, Henry. I want you to go to town on my ass affectionately, Yours, Linda. Squirt emoji, squirt emoji best wishes, Henry. No, but for really, this was a screw up by Belichick. And he's a coach, so he can't even blame ct because this is how Flora's found out that he already lost the job that

he was about to interview for about too. And you may be wondering, why would an NFL team grant an interview to a black coach if they have no intention of hiring them. Well, for a long time, black head coaches in the NFL, we're just not a thing. Right. In fact, between and nine there were zero black coaches, nada. Yeah, during that sixty year period, it was easier to find a black person in space than coaching in the NFL. And finally, in two thousand and two, Johnny Cochrane, Yes,

the O J guy. I guess he was really into football. He threatened to sue the league if it didn't get its act together, and so the NFL created something called the Rooney Rule, which said that at any time that there's an opening for a new coach, at least one minority candidate has to be interviewed for the job. Which is cool, but now Brian Flores is saying that these interviews he's getting they aren't real. These teams are just going through the motions to satisfy the Rooney Rule. Think

of it this way. It's almost like when your mom emails you that her friend from church, her son is moving to your city and she wants you to be friends with him, and then, yeah, you go get a beer with him just to make your mom happy, But you know for a fact you're never gonna hire him as your friend. And honestly, if you want to make someone come to a bullshit interview, the least you can do is let them know ahead of time, let them know this is a bullshit interview, because that way they

can have some fun with it. You know, I think how dope it would be to get to an interview knowing you're not gonna get the job. Then you can give bullshit interviews. So what would you say is your biggest weakness. I'm definitely afraid of footballs, and I also don't know what the footballs is now. Look, we don't know for certain why Brian Flores didn't get these jobs, but it's clear that the Routing Rule, despite its good intentions, has done nothing to solve the NFL's black coaching problem.

The facts are clear that black coaches are not awarded the same opportunities as their white counterparts. Black coaches take longer to get hired, they get fired faster. A study found the coaches of color average shorter ten years than white coaches, and we're less likely to land another head

coaching job after being fired. There was an academic study that came out across three decades over one thousand coaches, finding that black coaches were one hundred and fourteen percent less likely to be promoted to coordinative positions, despite the success of coaches such as Tomlin and Tony Dungee, who both won Super Bowls. When it comes to head coaches, the league is clearly as white now as it was in two thousand and three when the Rooney Rule was institated.

There were three African American coaches in the National Football League. We are nineteen years removed from the institution and implementation of the Rooney rule, and there is now one head coach. Yeah, that's right. Out of thirty two teams in the NFL, there's still only one black head coach, which is fewer than the number of black coaches when the Rooney rules started. So the Rooney rule is basically as useless as the five second rule. Yeah, bitch, you dropped your food on

the floor you put in your mouth. That's just nasty. Okay, it's not like bacteria slow to figure it out? Is that food? Wait? That's food. And it turns out not only a black coaches still not getting enough opportunities, but when they do get the job, they have a much shorter leash than white coaches. Yeah, even if they win, that's a good chance that they're gonna get fired. Now, is the NFL doing this on purpose to black coaches? Nobody knows. I mean maybe, or maybe it's an unconscious bias.

And that's what makes racism so hard to prove these days, because back in the day, when someone's being racist to you, you knew, alright, because there'd be upfront. They'll just be like, oh, you you want the head coaching job. You're Ron funny Negro. I didn't even know many girls are smart enough to

make jouts? Did you know that? Stave? But that's why proving racism for black people in two can be so frustrating, Right, Sometimes it feels like you know you you, You're the only person in a horror movie who actually knows what's going on. You gotta believe me, man, there's a serial killer in this camp. Don't be ridiculous. All these sexy

teams are probably stabbing themselves to death. Come on. But no matter why it's happening, it's clear that black coaches aren't getting the same opportunities in the NFL as their white counterparts, which is a pretty demoralizing situation for black coaches to be in. NFL owners have stuck to an old game plan when it comes to hiring head coaches, and that in turn has sent morale among black coaches

plummeting to a new law. It's now so bad. Football agent Brian Levy convened a Zoom meeting for many of the black coaches he represents to talk about the Rooney rule. Part workshop part therapy session. You see, um, guys that are not as qualified. Um that jump ahead of you, Guys that you have trained and that we're under you for years. That that jump And now, so what is the criteria? You know, the resume doesn't matter anymore. He's

not getting interview because he's the qualified coach. He's going to do because they have to hit that quota. You see the black name like, oh, he's the rooney, that's why he didn't. He's the runy man. You see the ship. The situation is so bad for black coaches that they are voluntarily having zoom meetings. Do you know how truly unfair something has to be for football coaches to talk about their feelings. Think about it. Even when they win the Super Bowl, they'll be up on the podium that

night like you played well today. Then give the boys twenty minutes off tomorrow and then it's back to the weight room. This is the most exciting day of my life. Well, for more on this issue, let's go now to our senior Tailgates and correspondence, Roy Wood Jr. Roy I believe you're out at Miami Dolphins Stadium right now, and this story is truly a bombshell story. It is shocking, Trevor, shocking. I can't believe that racism still exists in the NFL.

I mean they had in racism on their helmets. You're telling me that didn't do anything. You know, Roy, I'm as shocked as you are. But but let me ask you, what do you think of the Rooney rule? Because this lawsuit seems to prove that it hasn't worked. The problem with the Rooney rule is that it underestimates racial bias. The Rooney rule says, you don't like black people, we'll hang out with one and see what happens. But nothing happened. So now it's even worse, and you're still hiring the

white coach and wasting the black man's time. Right right, So then let me watch the mint and that this rule messes with the black man's self esteem. He's going on all these interviews and doesn't get the job. He's obviously gonna wonder, well, is it me? You're getting low self esteem? That's that ship starts affecting your whole life. You start having problems with intimacy. Your girl asked, what's wrong, but you're too manly to admit that. When you get older,

things don't work as good. You know what I'm talking about, Trevor. You know exactly what I'm talking about. You've been through this ship, you start growing apart, she leaves you. Next thing you know, she's dating the white coach because he got a good job. Meanwhile, you at home by yourself watching poorn. You're not even jerking off while you're watching the poorn, You're just watching it and eating cheese. I h I think that went a bit off track. But

I get what you're saying. Roy You think the Rooney rule should be abolished. No, I didn't say that. We just got to replace the Rooney rule with the roy Wood Junior rule. The Roywood Junior rule. I'm sorry, what is that? Oh? No, it's simple. If a team is gonna hire a white guy but they have to interview a black guy, then that should just have to fly me out. But then doesn't that waste your time? Man? I ain't got nothing going on and stuff with this

stupid ass job. And I get to have a fun weekend, get to fly first class, get the chill in the hotel with a mini bar, hanging out in fun cities, drunk in New Orleans, back tattoos in Miami. I'm gonna have a good ass time, Doug. Well, Roy, I'm looking here and it says that one of the first available jobs is gonna be in Minnesota. So you want to fly there? You want to send a black man to Minnesota in February? What part of in racism do you not understand, Trevor. My skin wasn't made for them type

of temperatures. Let the white coaches have Minnesota. They't that. Okay, I thought you wanted to, all right, I guess we'll have to figure something else. You know what, Let's take a break and when we come back, we'll tell you the truth about where your poop actually goes. Stick around. So so, Roy, you're just gonna give up on Minnesota, Trevor, is a reason that you never saw any black bikings. You've seen a black biking. I can't say that happens.

Name one black biking You've got me. Yeah, Welcome back to the Daily Show. My guest tonight is the creator and star of Jackass, Johnny Knoxville. He's here to talk about his death defying stunts in the new film Jackass Forever. Johnny Knoxville, Welcome to the Day Show. Thank you for having me. It is so good to see you like functioning as a human being. You know, I'm happy to

be functioning after one those films. I'm like, you're one of those people where if somebody bent money with me and said, like, how long do you think this guy will live for? I would have probably lost all my money. You you're you're you're fifty now right, congratulations, thank you. I'm loving it. I did not think I would live to see you get like old, like look at your silver fox and everything. Thank you? When natural during the pandemic,

Oh yes, and yet you're still trying to die. Well, I try still trying to entertain, which you do successfully. By the way, congratulations. I think the movie is really funny. I think the stunts are crazy. To have you guys gotten tired of the pain? Do you still feel pain? Yeah? I feel my pain threshold I think is about the same as anyone else's. I don't give a damn. Yeah, I don't think it's the same. I've been hit by

a call once, right, it never happened again. Like if you crossed the street with me, Johnny, like there is no car anywhere inside, because that I will never forget that ship. And then you come along and I go, like, when that bull hits you. So there's there's the scene where you're getting hit by the bull. Do you even remember that? By the way, I remember the ball hitting me in me flipping, and after that they had to send me footage in the hospital to remember what happened

because you were snoring afterwards. That was the doctor said, that was me trying to swallow my tongue. Yeah, I thought it was, like I thought it was. So this is what happens. You get hit by the bull, you flip, you crashed down, you start snoring. Then I'm like, Johnny, that's funny saying I'm knocked out. So I'm snoring, and now you tell me that part of it. I didn't bring that up in the movie. Yeah, because I mean, like, look at look at me down Now I'm the opposite

of into taining. I'm worried about you. What else have the doctor said? Are you? Are you like fully okay? As a person like you can't do this so much longer, writes I that that was my last ball to face because I've had sixteen concussions and that one was really pretty narrowly had a brain hemorrhage and it took me several months to come back from I took a lot of cognitive tests and boy, my scores weren't great. Yeah. The doctor's like, do you have trouble paying attention? I'm like, yeah,

I can't sit still lately. I can't edit. I can't. He's like, because you scored a seventeen out of a hundred on the you're just taking attention span. You just take a knock off, the knock off the I'm better now. So now it's like I don't know twenty. I'm glad you're going up. That's so weird. Glad that Johnny knox Fell has gone up. Here's another question I had for you is like, who is your health insurance provider? I actually have very good health and insurance. Um they do

they know what you do? Like because I like like, whenever I think of health insurance, I think of them being like, ah, but you know existing conditions? What do you do for a living type thing? Like does like do you have like life insurance? I actually got life insurance, which is amazing. I didn't know what you do. Yeah, they know what I do. I don't harp on it with them, but they know what I do and like how you say, like you just gloss over him? Yeah? Yeah,

what do you do for a living? I work with animals, you know, I work near gravity and Newton's third love motion. Um, is there a stunt that that terrifies you? Is there like a thing where you go like, you know what? I want to do it, but I don't think I'll ever have the bulls to do it. I don't like cold weather, cold water, that's my line in the sand. Wow, yeah, I don't like it. Although I have I have done things in cold weather and cold water. I don't that's

actually your so it's not pain, it's cold. Yeah. And well Steve O's is like he'll let you put a hook in his mouth and cast him out in the sea chummed up waters for sharks. But they tried to get him to uh bungee dive off a bridge. Wants He's like, no way, dude, no way. It's like something grandma's dude. Everyone has their irrational thing about them, all the cast members. He wouldn't bunge, he dive. It's like okay, Stevo, Okay, So then how do you pick the stunts? Then and

how do you pick who's gonna do the stunt? Because I mean, like in this movie, you've got like vultures and penises. I'm gonna say that just to keep people on the hook. You know what I mean. You've got you've got scorpions involved in people's faces. You know, you've got penises and bees. Yes, you know who's a lot of penis. There's a lot of penis, which is good. Um, it's like euphoria. But with comedy, you know, how do we how do we choose who gets to do which stunt?

Do the people know ahead of time? And do they say yes, I'll do it or is it like now I want you to do this? Um? Everyone has their specialties. Like Dave England's the poop guy. Pontius is the naked guy, although Stevo will do naked things. I more of the blunt force trauma guy. And and no, they don't know

a lot of times what's happening the headtime. Jeff and I know who we want to do it, and if they protest that they don't want to do it, then Jeff has a way of you know, he'll like either bulldog him into order, take him on a walk and be there buddy, and and talk him into it. That way. He has a number of ways of coming at the guys. I appreciate that. Yes, encouraging people to get hurts, but like their own relationhips. Well, secretly they all want footage, right.

If someone gets a really good bit, no matter how painful, they're like, God, now I need to get one. And so everyone tries to top each other and it really helps for the film. It really does help the film. Um, Johnny Knoxville has evolved a lot over the years, you know. I mean you started to show at what the age of twenty nine, I think on MTV back in the day. Um, you've gone on to do everything, you know, the movies, the TV show, every everybody loves what you do. You

you've developed a rabbit fan base. But what was what was an interesting evolution for me? Maybe one of your craziest stunts for people was speaking out off the George Floyd. Oh my god, I mean that was I mean infuriating for everyone, I believe, but but I think it was like it was impressive because a lot of people didn't expect you. I mean, you're Johnny knox Fell. They're like the guy gets hit by things in the head. I

don't think he's gonna say something anytime. And then you came out and you said, you said really beautiful things about the moment and what was happening in America. And then there were some fans of yours who were pistol if. They were like, no, Johnny, we we don't want you saying anything. I was so disgusted by that act by like a lot of people, and I feel like I could not say something, you know, And yeah, I lost people on my like a hundred thousand people unfollowed. But

I told him too. I was like, if you if if you don't like what I'm saying, please don't follow me because I don't. I don't want you in my life. I don't need you in my life. I wanted to clear those people out and I did, and it felt much better, right because I mean, that's just been going on way too long. I hear you and it's it's it was, I don't know, it was no. No, I I appreciate you. I really do. Thank you. I think a lot of people are gonna enjoy the movie because

you guys don't take yourself seriously. It's just fun. You're hurting yourselves, which is a wonderful thing, you know, it's like consensual hurting of thyself. And uh yeah, I I hope we see you in another Jackass, but not getting like. I hope we find stunts that you can do safely without like failing cognitive tests. Well I hoped if we do another one, and we may, we may not. I don't know, but I'll try my best to sit behind

the camera in which after main. But as he told me, I'm lousy at doing that, so you can switch to the naked stunts. I'm not built for speed like panias you know. I mean, just to be honest, there's a reason I wasn't picked for the open. It looks like an egg in the nest. Trevor oh Man, sorry everyone, oh boy, nuxtell. It's always fun having you on man, Thank you, thank you for having thank you for the movie, thank you for joining me, and I hope to see

you again. Thank you. All right, people, Jackass Forever is in theaters everywhere on February fourth. You definitely want to check it out. It's a lot of fun. We're gonna take a quick break, but we'll be right back after this an ostrich egg or like a like another bird? No, no, like a humming bird. Well that's our show for tonight's but before we go, please consider supporting the Loveland Foundation. They're an organization dedicated to providing therapy services to underserved communities,

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