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That's not lyrics.
That's the sound Fred Flintstone's feet make when he driving off his feet just joined the Migos. Now today we're going to talk about old school hip hop legends like DJ cool Her, Grandmaster Flesh, Drums, DMC, and of course my short lived group Regular Roar and the Trappozoids. We broke up right after we took that picture. Had a huge argument over what exactly a trapperzo it is. Didn't
record a single track, Kiss my ass Leroy. Tonight, let's discuss some of the seminal moments in the birth of hip hop, starting with the fortieth anniversary of Rappers Delight, the first commercially successful rap song, Rappers Delight got everyone rapping. In fact, thanks to Rappers Delight, hip hop went so mainstream it even led to stuff like this In every.
Rapping Cat, I know this.
Thankfully hip hop survived that commercial Many now rappers delight might be the reason rap went commercial, But what gave hip hop its flavor was undubitably the sound of the record scratch. Now, a lot of people don't notice, but the record scratch was actually invented by accident. A young DJ by the name of Grand Wizard Theodore was practicing in his room when his mother came in and he stopped the record with his hand, which led to this.
That's right.
That sound was accidentally created by a young black man trying to avoid an ass whooping. And now it's the signature of hip hop. It's also the sound of when some shitt had gone wrong, the condom had a hole in it. What do you mean that wasn't beef. You may be a dentist, but that ain't my mouth. But before you could scratch on the turntable, you needed a turntable, and that was one of the biggest obstacles for aspiring
hip hop DJs. Turntables were too expensive. Luckily, in nineteen seventy seven, an active god changed the course of black history. A massive black hit New York City, and in the ensuing chaos over a thousand stores were looted. Now, I'm not going to be the one to say that black people had anything to do with it, but let's just say that the next day there were a bunch of
brand new DJs in New York City the incidence. Indeed, Now, before you judge those people who looted on that faithful day, remember that looting can lead to some beneficial side effects. Black people looted, and now we have hip hop. White people looted, and now we have museums because you know, damn well, those mummies didn't just walk themselves until their
museum house. Now that he stored nineteen seventy seven. My uncle Bibo also took part in the looting, but because of the darkness, he couldn't identify what he was taking. He thought he stole two turntables. Turns out it was too lazy as susans. He never did become a DJ, but he could pass the hell out of some ketchup. Well, that's all the time we have for today, But before we go, I want to make peace with the trapezoids. Leroy, if you're watching this tonight, I'm sorry that I said
a trapezoid is just a square with an attitude. That's so, I'm sorry for having sex with your wife. Well, this has been cpecha. And remember before the culture Leo kised my son for me. Don't not see it in a couple of years.
My guest tonight is a DJ and a record producer who's wildly popular. Club Quarantine saved all our lives during the pandemic.
Please give it out for my brother, DJ D Nice.
All right, D Nice?
What's up?
Man? That is the perfect name. I never asked you, how did you come up with the name D Nice?
You know, back in the eighties, everybody was Ice mixed Master Ice. And when we were recording our first song South Bronx, scottlanar Rock accidentally called me D Nice Wow, and I just kept it. I used to be M Ski.
Because Nice Ski that's my tag up name.
I was terrible and tagging it would just be like a stick figure.
What was some of the names that you had before? Like before D Nice was the failed names?
I was D Money that works the money, yeah, but that doesn't work. During COVID, everybody people losing jobs.
He read, going on, you know.
No no, but that was it though I actually started in hip hop, man, I was pretty fortunate. Like the first thing that I did in hip hop was worked with BDP.
So how did that happen? How did you first start BREDP?
Boogie down?
Yes, the teacher, the teacher, the teacher, the philossophul, I said, love my philossophful, But how did that happen?
So Kars carros Wanted lived in the men's shelter in the Bronx. Wow DJ Scottland Rock was the social work in the Bronx. My cousin was a security guard at the men's shelter and I was like, fifteen, Yes, was that Robot? No, no, no, Robo was he was just down with the group. This cousin, we called him.
Shut out to Robo, shout out to Robo.
He knows.
Anyway, I walked over with some food and then you know, you know, he was like, Hey, I want to introduce you to someone. He introduced me to Scotland Rock.
God loves you, God loves me man everything that your.
Nickname the nights this happened and then he gifted you the caress one. Yes, and you don't want to know my struggles that I'm like, I was a Wayne to my mama tried to get rid of me.
But I lived anyway. God Sean tried to drown me.
So the Kim Deser Dame man Keenan started me for a week, Damon beat me.
And it just strong.
There's a lot of you though.
You're gay, but you know it's dope.
Like I loved the fact that, like my family, like, I never had to run with a lot of dudes. You know how you and Lebronx whatever you have to run with certain dudes. I never had to rum with nobody. I got my brothers.
I just let I want Google.
And it's a problem.
It's a problem.
Now let me ask you. I mean, we've known each other a very long time. Yes, we met on the set of I'm Gonna Get Yourself and Get You.
Yes, I think we were like the youngest speaking on the set.
We were babies.
I had no hair.
I looked like a shaved weasel like and you didn't have no hair.
We look a look at you, that said with the look at her, I wanted to rob you of that jacket so bad.
Now look at me, look at me. Yeah, I love this crazy look at Sean. Puberty was nowhere on that set.
No, no, not at all.
But man, did, how did y'all wind up doing that?
I know my brother called you. My brother loved BDP Yes, yes, And then he reached out to us. We were on tour with like Eric Bean Rock Kem. Yeah. I was young on that tour. Bro I was like seventeen eighteen years old and we were While we were on tour, Keenan reached out and said he needed he wanted us to do the do a song from the film. So I worked on the beat on the tour bus and it ended up being a song using the movie.
Yeah, Jack of Spainjack to Deack to deck deck Stop, we.
Look on.
Club Quarantine.
Man.
You know you really saved our lives with that. Yeah, like.
This this is the third year university. It's funny. When you first started doing it. I would always show up and I just wanted to shout out. I was like you was like shouting out Oprah and you shouting out Obama was in there one time.
I was like, big over here, I mean, I'm going into SOCCA. I'm going in soccer. And then one day he was like, mall ways. I was like, yes, street cud, what do you plan on doing with that now?
Oh? CQ So the third anniversary of Club Quarantine, which is so crazy. We've been doing this for three years together. It's next Friday, music Man, So you know, we're doing the CQ three anniversary next Saturday, March eighteenth at the Apollo Theater. I wanted to bring it home, Okay, Yeah, and so I'm pretty excited about that. But but I'm also excited that during the daytime we're doing something really cool. You know, what effected people during the quarantine was how
do you say for a pandemic? So I'm doing something called the ABCQS, which is it's a financial literacy seminar during the daytime with Chase and to just kind of teach people about you know, financial literacy and saving and building.
All your positivity in the morning man, I was, I was like, how do you drink more wine?
Then?
Very simple? You're into hip hop?
And I wanted to ask a hip hop aficionado a couple of things. One is, who's in your top ten? What's your Mount russellore Man?
One? I think is unfair to have a top ten, you know, like it's every every generation is different. But if I had to select ten people, Jay would be it would be j No as Big. Who else rock care rest Big?
You gotta put Buster in there.
I would put Buster eight. I love eminem that's nine. And you know, to be honest with you, I'm a big queen Latifa fane.
He's very plihally correct.
He's rapping for.
International Women's Day.
You're smart.
You're smart.
I noticed you.
Always got a hat on.
Why you got a nice head?
You know what I mean?
God, man, you know I got a nice head. I'm just saying, man, you know, like I don't know the hat became a thing. I've always worn a hat because I started to lose my hair prematurely, you know, like he was on a set sixteen years old in my hair like twenty eight. Man, man, I need to wear a hat. I really didn't like to shape my head. But the hat thing doing quarantine was actually an accident.
No, but this is cool, Like you got you got a nice head like some dudes they ain't got a nice head. Like oh, like I don't befriend him because if he about to see Neil without his hat.
On, I'm like, oh, you were thinking.
As Mels a homie. But I have to agree with that.
Leo know his head is messed up seeing what has had on. I just want to load them in a gun. We we all lost the hip hop community. Uh, we lost one true boy. Day I just started.
Streaming their music, so please go make sure you check out day Lot Soul. The brothers are streaming now. Yes, yes, What did Daylight Soul mean to you?
Day Soul?
What do they mean to me?
What do you think they mean them of expression?
You know, they've always been free with their look, the close, the music, the lyrics. They were always something different, you know. So as DJ Jazzy Jeff would say, we got a bubble wrap day Soul. Absolutely, you know, they truly are like amazing talent.
Absolutely.
I feel like.
For me, Daylat Soul like growing up in the hood, day Lost Soul, Like there's there's music hip hop, a lot of hip hop rock Cameric was for.
Brothers in the hood. Day My Soul was for brothers like me.
That was trying to get out the hood, you know what I mean, Like they spoke to like you know that the other side, like you.
Know, come on, I was trying to get out of the hood to sit there for me too.
Don't tell nobody, we tell nobody.
I'm trying to get on.
Then I saw for all the brothers that was getting chased by the brothers that music what.
It sounded like that that sounds.
That care lived the show.
He was like, Oh that poor me, grill.
Hip hop it's been around fifty years years like our age. Why do you think it had such an impact so soon? It's only fifty years like rock and roll been around way longer. Hip hop is pretty young.
Why do you think it had such an impact?
I mean, just from my experience being in hip hop, A lot of what I learned, you know, growing up that they didn't teach in schools, I learned from the records.
You know.
It was like, so I feel you know, I didn't know much about I'm be honest with you, I didn't know much about black history until I started listening to Public Enemy and Chuck D and Kres. You know, Like, so I felt. I feel like hip hop was definitely like the CNN of like the inner city community, you know, and we kind of needed that. And I think it just resonated with all of these kids, you know, we started feeling rebellious back then. Like that's right, you know what, I feel proud about myself.
It made you feel positive.
No matter how much negativity we were going through.
It just it uplifted you.
I was always aspirational, as are you, my brother. Thank you for coming out.
I appreciate you. I love you. Thank you too, Bro. What do you let me ask one more question before I got before you go? What do you think hip.
Hop's going to next?
A man, I don't think that. I can't even answer that question.
The next fifty is what do you think?
I don't know, man, I just hope that it continues to grow. Hey, I gotta be honest. I'm like, I don't know what.
Be nice.
My guest tonight is a Grammy Award winning rap legend because you got to talk about his new album, King's Disease three, which is out now. Please welcome the one and only Nods who else welcome back to the show. Thank you, Yeah man, welcome back. Congratulations on the new album.
You know I was I was thinking about this today when we were talking about you coming on.
I was like, you are a living.
Hip hop legend, and I think the significance of that for me lies in the meaning both ways. One, you are still in the game, You're still doing it. You're still contributing. You're still making great music, but also you are a living hip hop legend.
We take for granted.
How many legends we've lost in hip hop we take for grants, So how many people aren't around.
Who are part of that?
Do you ever wake up in the morning and thinks yourself, Damn, so many of the people I started with in this game aren't here anymore, and I'm still here getting to be a part of it.
All the time, all the time.
Somebody friend of mine today called me and told me, he said, you you realize how long and you've been around and how much you survived the things you've been through. You know, we just lost a hip hop hip hop artist the other week man, Yeah, take off, and you know, may rest in peace. And you know, I lost so many friends even before I got into music. I didn't think I would get to music and then still see it going on.
You know, Yeah, you've done that. You've done more than just survived. You've succeeded in it. You've thrived in it. And I think what I love about this album is how it feels like you almost reminiscing whilst also writing a piece of the future.
You know, you've always been.
To this day, everyone will say one of the greatest lyricists that's ever lived. But the stories that you tell.
You know, the way you weave.
I mean, for instance, everyone was in hip hop was familiar with like your beef with jay Z right what it was? And then I love how in here you talk about that beef, what it was, how it disappeared, but how you'll still text him saying, you know this isn't over right.
Well, when I released the track list for the album the other day, he released a picture with all this Grammys. Yeah, shout out to him and a shout out to hip Boy, who produced this album, the entire album.
He produced the other two albums and also the album Magic. Yeah.
We slipped in four albums in two years. And the reason yeah, thanks man. Thanks, And the reason I think it happened is because we started the first one in twenty twenty when the pandemic hit. So at first I was scared to come outside, and then he hit Boy was in the studio like, come on, man, it's like a month you didn't leave your house, and he got
me to come outside and had nothing else to do. Right, We finished the first one really quick, and we said, you know, we should do this again, and here we are with the third one on my label, Massive Pills.
I would love to know.
Yeah, I'd love to know that when you look at hip hop as a whole, you know, you you were there when it was only seen as gangster rep. You were there when it was completely ostracized from society. Now it's at the super Bowl. Now it is, you know, at a hockey game. I remember that's when I was like, Wow, okay,
hip hop has done it. You know, you know, for real, I'd love to know, you know, where you would like to see the game progressing to now that it's you know, it's not in the exact same place it was before.
I think it evolved, and I think people can realize that you don't have to be scared of it.
We learn from our mistakes and then we can grow in it.
We don't have to stay doing one thing. The ones who stay doing one thing, unfortunately they fall off. And we have to understand that. Like hip hop is now, it's going on fifty years, and we've been behind this whole.
Fifty years will be next year.
Hip hop has been alive, so we've been behind trying to curate this museum that's coming up in the Bronx right now and amazing, and the mayor has even gotten involved.
That's Mayor Adams and you know, and I notice, yeah, I know.
This One thing with the culture is like artists don't think they can go past one way or we have to be all in one like area trying to fight for crumbs.
And it's like hip hop's a multi sound genre.
So it's like in rock, you don't have you don't compare Kiss to the Rolling Stones, you know, but in hip hop, for some reason, we're fighting it for the same thing, and you know, you feel like you have to be the number one guy all the time.
So hip hop is a multi sound genre.
You can have multiple things going on at once, doesn't matter how if you're twenty years old or forty years old or whatever.
It's a beautiful culture and I love all of it.
So I think that we should all as writers get out of their comfort zone and spread your wings and expand, which I sound yeah.
I really like that.
Before I let you go, I want to I want to talk about that idea of being more.
You know, we know you for the music, we know you for being in the restaurant business and doing extremely well being successful with that. We also know you, you know, getting.
Ready said sweet chicken. Yeah you been there. It's phenomenal.
People love it.
And do you know I remember eating and someone was like, you know, Nas owns this chicken.
I was like this chicken that I'm holding right now.
It was it was a weird way that someone said it to me.
But but you're also getting involved in a different type of storytelling, which is which is in film? You know, I know that you you directed a documentary you know that talks about, you know, the supreme world of like it was this underworld in Queens, And I know you're also involved in a really fascinating story about the civil rights icons everybody, Malcolm X, Martin, Luther King, Junior, et cetera.
What is it about that world that entices you? Why are you stepping into documentaries, filmmaking, et cetera and doing well.
At It's I'm a movie buff. I love films, And yeah, I love films. I love them, love them love. I was Halloween. I was going Friday thirteenth crazy.
I was doing Halloween crazy. I went to see Halloween N's and all of that. What's your favorite film.
What is like the movie that you can never get enough of?
You watch it over and over and over. Beat Street, the old school hip hop film. Okay, that's my favorite.
Then it comes their Godfathers and all of that. Okay, okay, you know, Godfather's a family movie thing, you know, But yeah, I love films. I love Steven Spielberg. I rapped about him on one of my first raps and I always wanted to get into it. So The Supreme Team was one about a underworld organization in Queens long ago. We hear about the Gottis and all of those Jihant Gotties and stuff, but we never really hear about this.
So I like to uncover things, the good, the bad, the ugly in America.
And his story was some innocent people and some people are guilty, some are innocent probably. But the new one, The Invaders, that just came out you can test it on Apple, Amazon Prime, is about this organization of musicians, intellectuals, Vietnam vets who got together who were trying to strike against a garbage truck company where someone was killed in this faulty truck and then there was no pensions of money.
Was bad and Martin Luther King came down there and he stood with the Memphis people, the people that were striking, and he found out who the invaders were, and they wanted to protect the march because the first March was from bad. Of course, we know the end, how Martin Luther King, you know what happens. But this another look into that story through the eyes of the invaders, and most of them are still alive. And it's a really good picture. And in nineteen sixty seven, and it's amazing.
So there's so many stories to uncover all over the world, and here's my world. I want to talk about it. Another one besides Sweet Chick, I gotta tag is Coate Michelin Star Restaurant.
Coat, you Gotta You, Gotta Go, You gotta go. That's you. Yeah, it's not me, but I'm a part of it. Yeah, it's that's you. Yeah, that's me.
Wow. Yeah, not as many talents. I appreciate your congratulations again.
Thanks you.
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