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The House Passes a Marriage Equality Bill | Jenny Slate

Jul 21, 202234 min
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The House passes a sweeping marriage equality bill, Dulcé Sloan examines gender stereotypes in children's books, and comedian Jenny Slate discusses her film "Marcel the Shell with Shoes On."

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You're listening to Comedy Central, coming to you from New York City, the only city in America. It's the Daily Show tonight, Congress pops the question what kids are reading? And Jenny Slave. This is the Daily Show with Driver Nol. What's going on? But welcome to the David Shot shoving off. Thank you sm for tuning in, Thank you coming out of put take a step. Let's do this. We've got a jam pack show for you tonight. Sesame Street is

trying to spell sorry, don't say. Sloan reads us a bedtime story, and good news, interracial marriage might finally be legal, which means my parents are about them. So let's do

this people, Let's go straight into today's headlines. Okay, let's kick things off with some big news coming out of Washington, d C. Now, everyone is still shell shocked by the Supreme Court's recent decision to overturn Roe v. Wade right, And although this made conservatives happy because they finally made government small enough to fit inside a woman's vagina, everyone else was pretty furious. And people were just angry at

the Supreme Court. No, they were pissed at Democrats because they didn't quartify Roe v. Wade, and I don't know about you, but I haven't said qutify this much in my entire life. We just say it like it's normal quartified. Did they quartify? You did it in qutified? That should have caught it. Did you quartify your Starbucks order? I did? Well.

It turns out that same Supreme Court ruling that's struck down Roe v. Wade it also open the door to future rulings that could overturn other rights right things like the right to gay marriage, interracial marriage, and contraception, all of which are based on the rights of privacy, just like Rovie Wade, which is why now Democrats are trying to learn their lesson and protect those rights before Clarence Thomas gets to them. A historic moment on l g B,

t Q rights, the bill has passed. Nearly fifty House Republicans joined all Democrats to write same sex and interracial marriage into federal law. The vote comes amid growing concerns that a conservative Supreme Court couldn't nullify marriage equality. Still, one hundred and fifty seven Republicans voted against the Respect for Marriage Act. Democrats believe that the government has no

place between you and the person you love. The House has officially possible legalizing gay and interracial marriage, which is a great victory for because because it, let's be honest, it's it's really strange to be diving back into this debate that we thought was resolved in all right. That's weird that they're like, we're doing it now. What what do you mean? Now? What's next? We're gonna start arguing about that dress again? Is that what we're doing? Because

it's over, guys, it's over. We decided a long time ago. It's blue and black, all right, and anyone who thinks it's white and gold is a Nazi. Yeah, I said, it's I'm gonna see those cuts. Nothing in there. Also, it's even weirder than fifty seven Republicans voted against this bill. You voted again, So you're on the record now against interracial marriage. Like, look, I know mixed couples have ruined your lives for the past few years, but I think it's time to let that go. I mean, I don't

even know what the argument is against gay marriage. What what's arguments? You know, when it became legal and conservatives all said, oh, America is gonna fall apart when this happens, and yeah, it kind of did, but that's not because of gay marriage. So the bill past in the House. Okay, but there's a chance it might never even reach the Senate because, according to one top Democratic senator, the Senate has quote more priorities than we have time. And I

never understand what you don't have time? How long does it take? Should gay marriage be legal? Yes? Boom? Votes are done? Because that was like, what three seconds? Maybe I can do another one. Look at much time I have? Should interracial marriage be legal? Boom bam, Yes, there we go down. That's two votes. Let's go again. Should interracial marriage be mandatory? This one's a little bit harder, but I'm gonna say, yeah, let's do it. All the babies

will be super cute. Done. You see that? Three votes? We're in. We don't have the time. And speaking of Democrats having messed up priorities, you know how there are all these Republican candidates running for office right now who believe that the election was stolen from Trump by Italian space a lean's hacking the voting machines. Well, some of those mega heads are starting to win their nominations, and

you'll never guess who's helping them out. Another election denier has just secured the Republican primary for governor in Maryland. Trump backed candidate Dan Cox, known for stoking election fraud fears and actually encouraging former President Trump to sees voting machines, will face off against the Democratic nominee there in November. In an apparent effort to meddle with the Maryland race, the Democratic Governors Association paid for this ad touting Dan Cox,

a pro Trump candidate. This isn't the first time the party has worked to choose its own opponent, and Maryland isn't the only state where Democrats have done it this year. They succeeded in boosting Trump aligned Doug Mastriano in Pennsylvania and Darren Bailey in Illinois. They are attempting it in Arizona right now with Carrie Lake. They tried unsuccessfully to do it in Colorado by giving an assist to election deniers.

Believe it or not, Demo crats are actually helping these extreme candidates win the nomination because they're assuming that they're too crazy to win the general election. Yes, it's a plan that has never backfired in the history of America. For the last five years. Yeah, I can't see how that could go wrong. I look, on the one hand, I get it, I get it right. If the classic gets some masks by standing next to the ugliest person

at the boss strategy, I understand that. But the strategy assumes that Democrats will run a competent campaign against these people. That's a big assumption. I don't know about you, guys. Don't trust the Democrats to run a race properly. There's the only people who try to shoot fish in a barrel, and somehow I end up with the fish shooting them. I Neimov got the gun. I thought I had it, but Nemov got the gun. Not to mention the stakes are so high, think about if this thing backfires, Right,

Democrats use their money to help crazy Republicans win. They're part of the race, and if it backfires, what happens? Because right now there's Democrats out there saying, if this maniac gets into office, it'll spell the end of democracy as we know it. But on the other hand, running against him gives me a four point boost in the polls. So let's roll the dice. Maybe let's go Democrats. Forget at everyone pays attention to politics. Alright, not everyone is

super informed about who the candidates are. You might be like, oh, there's crazy. Everyone will see it. Know, a lot of people they just show up and they vote. They'll be like, okay, yeah, Republican Democrat. That's what they vote on. Well, this is vote based on the name they like best. Yeah. I mean, how do you think Barack Obama got elected? A lot of people who are like, Yo, this white dude's got a crazy ass name. I'm gonna vote for him. Wait what?

All right? Finally, let's move on from the potential downfall of democracy to a more lighthearted story about Sesame Streets. They're racist, or at least that's what they're being accused of after a video at their theme park went viral.

A place of inclusion and learning for generations of kids, but Sesame Place, the theme park based on characters from the iconic children's TV show, is issuing an apology this morning after backlash from this video showing two young black girls seemingly snubbed by a performer dressed as Rosita at

the Sesame Place theme park near Philadelphia. Sesame Place initially released a statement saying that the costumes characters where sometimes make it difficult for them to see, adding the Rosita performer did not intentionally ignore the girls, and it's devastated about the misunderstanding. But that statement wasn't good enough for

many on social media who expressed outrage. Now other parents are sharing their own videos that they say show similar instances of their children being treated rudely compared to others, all seeming to show similar bias by characters at the park.

As a result, Sesame Place has issued a second statement saying that they are committed to making this right, adding they will conduct training for our employees so they better understand, recognize, and deliver an inclusive, equitable, and entertaining experience where ore, this is some bullshit. These little girls are getting snubbed by Rosida. She's not even a top ten muppet. Yeah, like if Elmo big Bird snubbs you can, Yeah, I get it, I get the big time. But Rosita I

was like getting snubbed by Hawki. My man, you should be honored to take itself with with me, you rubbing hood ass mother. So you're gonna get those kids? It just asn't decide though. I don't know if this is racism or not, but can we take a step back and appreciate how ironic this outrages, because basically what people are saying is, why won't this total stranger touch my kids? They touched the other kids, touch my kids. Guy in a ferry suit that I don't know touch my children.

You know what got me here is this seting me places explanation for this whole thing was was was weird because their excuse was that it wasn't racism. It's just that the costumes make it hard to see at lower levels, but that's where the kids are. Why would you design a costume for kids that can't see most kids? These guys are like, look, we're more than happy to give

hugs to any children who are Lebron's height or taller. Okay, I mean if you can't see at lower levels, what happens with they employees in the box like they must be so confused every day just going out there like, damn no kids again, it's just a bunch of adult

weirdos all by themselves. What's going on here? There's also a disconnect between the things Sessame Place is saying, because if this was just an innocent misunderstanding, then why are Sesame place is going to add bias training because either it was a mistake or it was racism copy both know. It feels like, now that's what companies do. They just go like, oh, we're gonna do bias training. That's that's that's what they say, just to get people off their backs.

We're gonna do a bias training. We're gonna read sometime housing codes. Again, we got this five because what are they teaching them in the bias training? What is the bias training? Hey? Um so, um so you see the black kids. Yeah, that's all you have to do is see the black kids. All right, that's it for the headlines. Before we go to a break, let's check in on all the latest social media trends with our very own

running check. Everybody, good turn. So, so, what's what's happening online? Man? Oh? Yeah, you really? One? Oh? You really? One o? You guys really want to know what's trading online? Do you want to know what's stupid bullshit it's trending on social media that we're all gonna forget about tomorrow, right because it's important, it's so important. Alright, alright, let's start with the with the toxiccess pool that is Twitter. Alright, what's what's trending

on Twitter? Surprise me, surprise me? Oh benefit, Oh benefer got married again? Benefit merry again. Big deal. People get married every day. These guys got married in Vegas. Okay, they didn't put any effort if all we know they were drunk. Okay, and now, because what to six year old drunk people got married by Elvis. Now the whole world's gonna talk about it. Oh, I mean they broke my heart in the first time. And now you just want me to watch just Believe in Love again? Huh?

Jenny from the Block and Ben Affleck from Dogma like the point the place. I'm not getting invested in this again. All right, let's just let's just see what's turning on Instagram? All right, Instagram? Oh, what's on the Graham? Now, let's let's oh wait, let me guess, let me guess what's on Instagram? Oh? Is it just the stuff that was trending on TikTok two weeks ago? What's the matter, instagram mers? You don't have your own ideas? What happened? You ran

out pictures to your feet in the sand. Why don't you take a picture of your book next to your avocado toast with some flowers on it. All right, let's just go Let's just go straight to the source of the arbiter of human culture. Now, that is TikTok, right, that's where all our culture comes from. What's trending on TikTok these days? Oh, it's this big trend called up the put your shoes on challenge. It's where it's where it's where a parent tricks their kids into thinking they

have to help them fight another parent and their kid. Okay, so let's just watch this clip. But but hang on to your final brain cells. Okay, because this one sounds dumb as shit. Put your shoes on now, fine, because I'm gonna go fight this girl, and if her son comes out, I need you to fight him. Okay, I will be her iyer, I'll be like this. Oh okay, you know what, you know what I think I changed my mind on this one. Okay, because when when I first heard about this, I thought it was a terrible

idea because it's the Internet. But you know what, I actually do support child violence. Okay, so I'm all for this. But the only bad thing that I can see about this challenge is that you don't actually get to see the fights. Yo, let's see the fights. Man, commit to the bit. Okay, I want to see some blood. Even if your kid isn't good at fighting, you as the adult, when you're fighting, you can you can use your kid as a weapon, right, because that's that's small enough to

fight with. You've got a skinny kid, you know, just toss them like a spear. Right, you got a toddler, your cannonball, just cannonball. Then you got twins. You've got twins, just connect them by the head, and now you've got nun chucks. Right. Okay, Now I know I already know people in the comments section. I can already hear them just complaining it's a bad parenting. You can't encourage fighting

with your kids. It's bad parenting. When you know what, if your kid is willing to fight for you, no questions asked, that means you are a great parent, right, that's right. Now. On the other hand, if you'll if you tell your kid, hey, let's go fight, and your kids like, hey, wait a minute, let's hear both sides, that means you up right, I mean, look at me, look at me. I love my mom, Okay, I love my mom. So much, I'd beat the ship off any baby for my mom. Right, yeah, I see a baby.

I'm like, Yo, don't even get out of stroller? Do not even get out of stroller? All right? Yeah, because mama Chang says, hi bomb, Yeah straight umbilical court your bomb. That's right back to you, Trevor, back to me. Are you fight babies all day? Come on four months? Anytime? Well, good luck with that, Ronney check everybody. Baby doesn't like social media? All right? When we come back, don't say Sloan had some beat with the cat in the hat. You don't want to miss it. You can welcome back

to the show. We we all remember our favorite books from when we were kids. I mean, unless you were born after two thousand, then we all remember our favorite YouTube videos. But those classic children's books had a big blind spot that you might have never noticed, and Dulce say Sloan points it out in another episode of dul saying, yeah, who cares about spot? There are snakes in his house? Get out of there. Oh hello, friends, didn't see you.

They're just doing a little light reading. I know some of you might be wondering, who will say, why are you reading children's book? And do us say, why are you minding a black woman's business? But if you must know, I'm reading these kids books because of how important they are. The fact is, children's books play a big role in shaping our views of adults, whether it's about race, culture or proper pooping etiquette. But one of the areas they

influence kids the most is gender roles. And that's a big problem because when it comes to gender, most of these books are more outdated than a pair of Janko Jane. I mean, why were they so big? We try to speak Kevin Harten's in the movie because chances are he's already in it. But speaking a little people, this is something we should all be paying attention to because by the age of seven, children's ideas about what they can

be when they grow up are already formed. And what do you think those ideas are gonna be when they've been reading books like this? Dick and Jane the book series that almost every first grader was reading in the nineteen fifties and sixties, and it was notorious for portraying stereotypical gender roles. Look at that the dad and the brother are up playing with spots, and the mom is inside cleaning up spots. I mean, what is that? A pun Lapi? Was r Kelly their dinner guest. And look

at poor Jane and this one. She can't even have a little fun without doing some charts. Can a girl just roller skate? She has to sweep too, what's next, She's gonna have to jump rope while making a sandwich? But this leave it to beaver bullshit wasn't just happened

in the nineteen fifties. Even in the nineties, the four main jobs women and girls held him picture books were scullery maid, daughter, princess, and mother, while men and boys got to be things like detective, aircraft inventor, and night And let me just say, I've been on date naps for a long time now and I've never met an aircraft inventor. There's a man claiming that on his profile. Chances are the only thing he's invented is dead. And it's not just men and women getting boxed in the

old school careers. These books are teaching them how they're supposed to behave in just day to day life. You can see this in one of the most famous children books of all time, The Cat in the Hat. It features a little boy and his sister Sally, and why the little boy is a narrator. Sally doesn't get to talk at all, he doesn't gonna do anything. She just follows her brother around like she's the Grim Reaper and

he's Joe Biden. The only action she does get to do is get tangled up on a kite string, so she's not allowed to talk, and she's clumsy. And just look at how many books are dedicated to finding wall though, but no one is asking where's Wanda and she's amstr for twenty years. Now. You think you can escape this problem by just reading children's books about animals, but nope. Even in those books, the main animal character is male

way more often than female. So basically, if you want kids to learn equal gender representation from animals, you gotta take him to the zoo. But good luck with that, because then you'll have to explain why these animals are in jail. And if stereotypes go all the way to plants, just look at the giving tree. The tree is female coded and acts as a caregiver to the human male character. That motherly tree gave that boy everything. Shade apples even would to build a home and what did he do

to pay her back? Turned her into Keia furniture. And while things are starting to improve, they're still a long way to go. Just back in the best seller list of children's books was still skewing way more male. It was like the kids section of Barnes and Nobles was

curated by Joe Rogan fans. So, even though most of the books of the children's library perpetuate these old fashioned gender ideas, the good news is the options get better every year as authors work hard to break these norms and depict women as adventures and scientists or as strong and brave. I'm doing my part, and I wrote a children's book myself. It's a classic tale, but with the female character who breaks gender norms. It's called No Broke Dick and Jane by dul Say Sloans. Jane does not

want Dick. That's broke. Live with your mom. That must be a joke. Jane wants no Dick that's in debt. No poor ass pete, no broke ass breath. James broke Dick days they are no more and got no car. Well there's the door. James got no time. She has a job. It's not her father, Jude, don't Bob no broke Dick for Jane today. James Dick needs its own. I R the end. See, it's easy to write children's stories that show women can be strong, confident and hold

romantic partners, to hire financial standards. So let's give our children the James they deserve, not the broke Dicks they've been getting. Thank you all right, stun because when we come back, Jenny Slates will be joining me right there. Welcome back to the Dainty Show. My guest tonight is actor, writer and comedian Jenny Slates. She's yet to talk about her new film, Marcel the Shell with Shoes On. Please welcome Jenny Slates. Jennie Slates, Welcome back to the Daily Show.

Thanks for having me back. I'm I'm so delighted to have you back, especially for this project, because you know, I had heard nothing about this movie as an idea, as a concept. I didn't know about it when it went viral. But I was sitting in in in the movie theater, I'll never forget this, and you know, they're playing all the trailers and it was interesting because all

the trailers that came over with like action movies. Because I think I was watching everything everywhere all at once, which you were also in, by the way, right, So I'm sitting there watching the trailers. Trailers is like action movie, action movie, action movie, and then the Shell comes on and everyone in the movie theater, oh, we instantly fell in love. And I remember going what who made this?

What is this? Who who came up with it? And everybody loves its like almost like a d on Rotten Tomatoes. Everyone is raving about the movie. So first things first, congratulations, thank you. Secondly, let's let's get into the how behind all of this. If someone said to me, you're gonna make a movie about a shell with a little like googly, I yeah, I'd be like, I don't think this is gonna work, and yet it worked. Take it from the beginning.

Please explain the concept to me, okay, sure? So um, I also think you're right, there's absolutely no way to pitch this movie. Um. And it's a big vote for like, if you have an idea and you're not sure how to explain it, maybe just try to find a way to do it. Yeah, And I think so I was like doing the voice first. I was with Dean Fleisher Camp who I directed this film, and he and I were at a wedding and um, we were sharing hotel room with like four other people because you were trying

to save money about twelve years ago. That means it's a destination wedding. It was Connecticut, take it or leave it, you know, that's what they chose. Yeah. Um, And we were sharing a room with a bunch of friends. I may have been having some cocktails. You know, We'll never know. Okay, we'll never know. Um, but it was really squashed in there. And I started being like like doing this little voice, like being like you guys are like really really stepping

on me and stuff like that. It's hard to hear, but anyway, I love doing it. Um. And Dean was like, you know, I have to make a short film for my friends comedy show. Could I interview you in that character whatever that is? And I was like yeah, because I love I love an interview honestly, yes and a body asking me anything for sure, and so um, he asked me some questions. The character started to emerge. He

did the character design. He's stuck a googly eye and a shell and you know, glue the shoes and everything, and we had this sort of like interview based short film that we ended up putting on the internet because someone at the comedy show was like, could you put this online? I want to show it to my mom um, And we just thought this, like these two people might see it. And it was a lot more than two people. It was more millions, more than two people show. Yeah,

it was like over thirty six million people. Yeah, I'm sure. I mean at that point the story is not it's not done. It's not like it's like, oh, there in minutes a movie, because it took you seven years to turn this into the feature film. Yeah. Yeah, the film itself took seven years. We first started with the audio recording and a lot of it was like improvised, and then we would write scenes based on the improv of

and eventually ended up with the script. That took about three years, and then we did the live action shoot and then the stop motion and it's going. The way they move is gorgeous as well as just like a little tiny, little like copy steppy, you know. Yeah, yeah, I like that. It is our Our animation director Kirsten Lapoor made like such beautiful animation. It's not super smooth, you know, it's just really enough that like you could almost see it out of the corner of your eye.

Can I see what I love about this story? First of all, there are very few original movies that you watch these days, right, moves will be like, oh, the sequel of the sequel of the sequel, or the prequel before the sequel. Right, you've got to get the prequel and um, and then the spinoff and then the spinoff to the sequel prequel. But but this is it's such an original idea and it's it's surprisingly heart wrenching. I never thought I would watch a movie where obviously you laughing.

I was like, I'm gonna laugh because the shell, you know, with the eye. But then but then this moment where I'm just like the show it's it's a really emotional story. Read that you've told it's a feel good story as well. Yeah, yeah, I think. Um, one thing that I'm interested in is like how those can exist at once. I know, like I certainly live that way that I can experience like grief and loss while also trying to live a life

that feels satisfying on a daily basis. And um, that is like one of the things that's built into the film and I think, um, I think it is funny, and I think also there are a lot of adults that end up crying during the movie, which is good. I think it's good. Well yeah, and everybody has made noise. Yeah, I think it's good. I think more adults should be

crying in more movies. Um. The the stories that I feel like you you you like to tell don't just involve like voices and you know, in heartwarming issues, but it's like there's something that I feel connect your or that you're attracted to in telling an adult story to kids that's almost secretly going to adults. You know, I wonder are you're gonna are you gonna do more of this or you're gonna make any you know, do you have any dreams for instead of making any kids shows? Yeah? Well,

first of all, yes I do. And I think you're right. I do like stuff like that because I feel like children are actually capable of like feeling huge, vibrant and and sometimes overwhelming feelings, and it's it's good to like give them a space to try that out and say, yeah, you're like really strong enough to do this. But also there are so many adults who weren't given that opportunity. So it's nice for them to see something where they see like a young or small thing really making it

work in that way. But um, I think, you know, I would really like it if I had my own show for children and people. UM, I like, like, I think it would be nice. I I like to say, somewhere between Pee Wee and Mr Rogers, but with a woman. Okay, okay, yeah, I don't want to give it to a man. I want it to be me. Yeah, yeah, I want. I love animation. Um, I've always been a fan of you because I love people who do different voices, because like,

that's what animation is. You've done everything. You know, you've done this. You know you did um what you were in Um, I want to say it was big Mouth, and I want to say it was Utopia as well. Yes, And every time your voice changes slightly, when did you When did you start doing that? It's like I think you've had your whole life? I think, so it's yeah, it's sort of like that's have you. It's like have you had this weird mole your whole life or something?

But you know it's like have you had this? Because this is I'll tell you why because I'm trying to. I'm trying to. I've been trying to make a TV show like here, like like a mine. So I just you know, and then what I was trying to do. What I was trying to do is I was hoping we could we could do like a little like a little scene for my show. I'm gonna because I'm gonna pitch it because now you showed me how successful it

could be. I'm gonna so you can you can be um, you can be handy the sanitizer um, or you can be blue ether the drink thing um, or you can be um stand the staple stand. Yeah, yeah, okay, I'll be standing fine, okay, And then um, I'll move these so you can see everything clearly. Oh you're doing that. Great. I'll go into that shop. I know how cameras work. I can be here, where's that where's that thing? Yeah?

They are getting my back, and then we need these ice turning as which which way that's the one, that's the one, that's the one, that's the one that's the one. Alright, cool, right, cool, I'm gonna figure out what's happening here. They are. Give me a place where they are people they're in Chicago. That's very specific, very specific, all right, And what are they trying to do in Chicago? Go to the circus? Okay, okay, okay, all right in Chicago and they trying to go the circus,

but they conked because why it's hot right now? Car broke down? All right? Then trying to go to the circus, but the car broke down. All right, all right, I'm okay, I'm I'm reading with all right, sto stand, calm down, stand. I just need you to calm down for one moment. I can't calm down that car. That guy in brown rap rap rap. How are we gonna get to the shircage? Now?

Can I admit something to stand? Oh? Go ahead. I broke the car because I don't want to go to the circus because I don't want every want to pump my darn head? What what? I don't you my dream? You know, stall b I'm gonna doing that to me. I didn't know that it was your first automobile, first of all. Secondly, Stan, you know that whenever we go anywhere, people pump my head? Yeah? Yeah? And you know what, you know what, that's life, that's life. You're look at you.

You've been hands as that a boy a few years of the pandemic and your attack. You know how a lot of people have been sang it back, ha Stan. These last few years have been really hard for me. A lot of people have been pumping my head. They don't ask. I've had to read what are you doing? Oy? What I ordered? An uber? We don't mature have this fight and see we've got me people not tall the shower, what shoes on? Is not playing in feelings? La Wi don't watch me? You take a kid, We'll don't take

a quick breck whore. We're right back after this. Well that's our shop for tonight. Before we go. Before we go, I wanted to tell you about our newest daily show podcast called hold Up all Right. There are there are podcasts out there that discuss major issues from nuclear war to economic crises, but this podcast is not that. Instead, hold Up features are very own Dulce Sloan and one of her good friends. Daily show rights are Josh Johnson

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