Rudy Giuliani's Post-Election Desperation | Katy Tur

much news. President Biden has declared a war on ground, its corporations are gay for pride, and someone special is following all of you on TikTok. So let's do this people. Let's jump straight into today's headlines. All right, let's kick things off with TikTok, the world's biggest social media sites and the app that proves Americans can read subtitles just fine when they want to. Yeah, hundreds of millions of people around the world use TikTok every day because I mean,

what else are you gonna do while you're pooping? Right? But what many TikTok uses might not realize is TikTok is owned by a Chinese company, and now we're finding out that while you're watching videos of people dancing, China might be watching you. Linked audio from social media company TikTok's internal meetings suggested Beijing has repeatedly access data from

users here in the US. The recording suggests that TikTok is falling down on its promise to wall off a mare can's data from its Chinese parent company, with one of the apps researchers telling colleagues quote, I get my instructions from the main office in Beijang. Oh no, China secretly watching all of us on TikTok. Now they're gonna know. Oh,

money doesn't jiggle, jiggle, it folds. But yeah. Based on these audio, leagues, it looks like TikTok's parent company in China actually does have access to our private data, which means the Chinese government probably has access to our private data, which is scary because TikTok knows everything about you, tracks what you watch, what you like, and then only shows you that stuff. Like if you asked me to see my four you page, I'll be like whoa, whoa, wha,

that's too personal. Yeah, just look at my nudes instead. Actually, that's a mini Cooke. And that's why, if you remember, Donald Trump was trying to ban TikTok a couple of years ago, right because the US government realized that China could use this as a tool to influence Americans, and all because Eric kept trying to send him friend requests. And you know, it's a little crazy how we're so hooked on social media that governments don't even need to

steal our data anymore. All right, we'll just give it to them. Like back in the day they have to hack into a database or break into the Social Security building. Now we're just giving it to them for free. And I blame myself. I'm part of this problem. I also took part in that personal Information challenge. That was a big mistake. I hope I go viral. All right, let's move on from all the data that you're putting into TikTok.

Told the data that's coming out of the January six hearings, the investigation that will somehow results in less punishment than the Oscar slap. Last week, we learned mostly about how

Trump knew that he had lost. Then we learned about how Mike Pence almost got hanged, and today's session was all about how President Trump and his allies tried to pressure state officials to sign on to his various schemes for overturning the election, everything from throwing out Biden votes to creating slates of fake electors to even eating the constitution really fast before anyone could look up the election lass.

And one of the people Trump depended on most in this pressure campaign was Rudy Giuliani, his personal lawyer and final boss in a resident evil game. Unfortunately, it seemed like no one wanted to take Rudy's calls. Pennsylvania House Speaker Brian Cutler received daily voicemails from Trump's lawyers in the last week of November. Mr Speaker, this is Rudy Ciliani and Janet Ellis. We're calling you together because we likely discussed obviously the election day. Brian. It's Rudy. It

really has something important to call your attention. I think really changes things. Cutler felt that the outreach was inappropriate and asked his lawyers to tell Rudy Giuliani to stop calling, but Giuliani continued to reach out. I understand that you don't want to talk to me now, like you just want to bring some facts to your attention and talk to you as a fellow Republican. Oh wow, that's desperate. And Rudy made so many uno some calls. The iPhone

just started labeling him as spam. Yeah, and not just his calls, his body it's spam. Can we ack knowledge? Want to fool? This has been huh? This man went from being an American hero so now sounding like a telemarketer selling a coup. If you want to now, I'll throw in that chair Abraham Lincoln is sitting on. Yeah, hello, hello, hello. And you know, this is just another example of how

historic President Trump really was. Any other time in US history, if the residents lawyer called someone, they would take that call. But when Trump's vampire lawyer called people, everyone was like, tell him I'm not here. Yeah, tell him I went camping and I died. Abey ate my face, tell him I'm not here. Also, not that I'm encouraging it, because I'm not. But if you are going to try and overturn an election, maybe don't leave voicemails. It's a paper trail. Also,

it's two text who leaves voice mails? You realize how first, are you coming off? Hey, it's me again. Come on, Rudy, just hit him with a quick late night You up for subverting democracy at pont emoji, red hat emoji, vampire emoji. Come on, Rudy, keep up at the times. All right, but let's move on. It has now been almost a month since the tragic school shooting in Uvaldi, and while shoot things like this are always traumatic, this particular one has been made worse by how the police in Uvaldi

have responded. Right, they didn't go in, They waited for an hour, and then they even stopped parents from trying to save their own kids. And if that wasn't bad enough, they've been trying to block information about that day from coming out, and each time more information comes out we learn why. This morning, the first surveillance image from inside rob Elementary emerges, The photos showing multiple police officers standing inside the building with rifles and at least one ballistic

shield nineteen minutes after the gunmen entered. This despite school police Chief Pete out of than those original claim that the officers weren't properly armed to take down the gunmen at that point, officers didn't enter the classroom and kill the shooter until fifty eight minutes later, the States Director of Public Safety, Stephen McCraw, testifying before lawmakers, lasting law enforcement's response as his department's investigation uncovers new evidence about

the massacre. He says officers were waiting for keys to enter, but investigators finding the door couldn't be locked from the inside, and saying that officers never even tried opening it. Yeah, you know, this story just keeps getting worse and worse. Every single time we learned something, it gets worse and worse.

We already knew that they waited far too long to confront the shooter, but now we found out that they lied about not having enough weapons to go in, because it turns out they had assault rifles, they had body armor and ballistic shields. So I'm sorry, what else are they waiting for? The invincible staff from Mario? What was that huh in the room? Like? How do they not go in? You know? Which is, by the way, another thing that we've learned. They didn't even try to get

in the classroom, didn't even try. They told everyone that they had to wait for a key because the door was locked, But the door wasn't locked. They just never tried to open it, which which is ridiculous. Even people wait to outside like a lock bothroom at Starbucks will jiggle the handle after two minutes just to be sure. Sure, they'll try. But it turns out these cops couldn't do what Like what will what the dinosaurs in Jurassic Park took five minutes to learn? They couldn't do that, just that.

And you know what's insane about this whole story is how the one time, the one time it would have been appropriate to go in guns blazing, the cops decide to have a picnic outside. Yeah, but if you're black or you have a broken tail, like oh, then all of a sudden they go old rambo on your ass. Are we're coming in? We're coming in. It's another reminder that you can't just trust what the police say. Like

this is one of the clearest reminders. Yes the police, yes you respect them, but it doesn't mean you just trust every single thing that they say. After an incident, journalists shouldn't be reporting what the police said. They should be investigating what actually happened. Because time and time again, time and time again, we learned the cops in America they basically used the same principle as toddlers. They'll tell the truth, but only if it doesn't get them in trouble. No,

mommy to cookies trying to eat me. I was just responding and no, my body camera wasn't working. Yeah, I turned it off, all right. Finally, let's move on to some lights and news. A lot of exciting stuff happened this weekend. Drake dropped a surprise new album, Beyonce dropped a new single, and not to be outdone, President Biden

had a drop of his own. A scare for President Biden today and when he fell off his bicycle in Rohobeth Beach, Delaware, The seventy nine year old was stopping to talk to reporters when you see there, his foot got caught in the pedal guard as he was dismounting his bike. He quickly got to his feet. Later, on his way out of church, the President repeated that he was doing just fine and hopped in place several times to prove it. Oh, President Biden, that that's just embarrassing.

He was just standing and the bike fell over, And you know, it's actually too bad because before he fell over he was looking kind of good. Yeah, all of us were like, wow, look at him riding that bike and he's eighty years old. And then he stops and falls and we're like, oh, yeah, he's eighty years old. He's eighty years old. And you know, it's not just the falling off of the bike that isn't moving, but

it's the fact that he thought that hopping. I was going to reassure Americans that he still got it, you know, that little no, because you can see what you can see when he was hopping. In his mind, he looked like creed. He was like, yeah, and look at me go, look at me go, when in fact it's hopping. Looked like you know, when someone is trying to escape a kidnapper who tied their legs together. Was like that. Now, apparently the reason he fell is because his foot got

caught in the pedal cage. Knowing America means that right now, that bicycle it's already at Guantanamo Bay. Who do you work for? Are the Taliban? China, Russia? Kamala Ah? The silent treatment? Huh okay, that's how you want to play it, Well, you better start talking soon. By the time I'm done with you, you'll be on one speed don't get slot

with me, you asshole. Still though, falling down is always an embarrassing thing to happen to anyone, never mind the presidents, which is why former presidents Donald Jolly Trump he made shorts away in. One of the greatest travesties of all is to see a person in the right house who, even after years of political experience, has absolutely no clue how to be the president of the United States. And I hope he has recovered because, as you know, he fell off his bicycle today. No I'm serious, I hope

he's okay, fell off a bicycle. I make this pledge to you today, I will never ever ride a bicycle. Every bicycle in the world. Read the collective side of relief. He's not gonna write us, guys, You're not gonna write us, Thank God. All right, that's it for the headlines. But before we go to a quick break, let's check in on the stock market without finance expert Michael cost to everybody. What to see you again, Nice to see him. What's uh,

what's happening in the market today, Mike? Well, I am crushing, so you say, I mean today I am crushing and I got a hot tip I got a hot tip for you. I got a hot tip for you, and I got a hot tip for you, So pay attention. So, um, this chart actually before that President Biden, you know, falling off a stop bicycle. I mean he did the hard stuff. You know, you did the hard stuff. That'd be like if you were getting ready to go skydiving, and and

you do the training. You pack your bag, you pack your parachute, You get in the airplane, you take off, you jump out of thirty thousand feet, you pull the rip cord, the parachute opens, you land safely, You disconnect the parachute from your bag. You you take a deep breath, and you pull out a knife and stab yourself in the head. I mean, what the art? Okay, So thank you to the untrained eyes such as yourself and such as yourself. This looks like a stock chart, but actually

what this is is our confidence in President Biden. Okay. Now this is when he fell off a stopped bicycle, okay, and it went low. This scared the hell out of all of us. Okay. Now, these three little dips right here, that's when he did those, you know, three little jumps. Is he gonna break his leg? Is he gonna pull a hamstring? Is he gonna tear his a c up? Now? Once he got home, sat in a chair, was surrounded

by secret service, the confidence began to rise. Speaking of rising tech, Okay, up, big time, SMP five hundred Okay, this is tech. If you don't know, SMP stands for surge and protectors. Okay, And if you want to be successful in tech, you need at least five hundred surge protectors to be a successful company. That's why those small businesses I don't use a lot of electricity, never really seemed to make it. Don't forget I'm an expert here at Trevor Okay, yeah, yeah, speaking of tech. Uh, and

I got a hot tip coming for you. I forgot. It's gonna go just it's gonna come. So that TikTok story, right that China? Yeah trying. I mean, what does China think we are as Americans just so lazy that all we care about our followers, you know, not our own privacy and its subjects like that that I talked about at my TikTok at Michael Costa Underscore, make sure you give it a follow now. Don't forget that was leaked audio.

We know about this because of TikTok's leaked audio, right audio that I did a lip sync video too on my TikTok which is at Michael Costa Underscore. Make sure you follow and like. Now, Look, if you're as outraged about this as I am, I think we all need to send a message to the Beijing authorities. Okay, So here's how we're gonna do that. Grab your phone or your computer. Go to h T t P Colan Backslash, Backslash, tiktom dot com. Okay, and you find Michael Costa Underscore.

Follow me, go to one of my videos, leave a message, and we will not be silence and I will let Beijing know that. Okay, got it ready for the hot time? Can we come right? Trying to get you follows on TikTok, I've been giving a lot of hot tips, and frankly, I'm sticking tired of giving these hot tips away for free, So I left mine today on my TikTok page at Michael Costa Underscore. You won't regret it. Thanks for the followup, Trevor. Okay,

sounds good. I feel like that was a waste of our time, all right, don't go away because when we come back, don't say sloan, We'll tell us how corporate America learned to love day people. You don't want to, Sup's gonna pick Welcome back to the Day Show. June is quite month or I just called in a state of Florida. But while you're out there celebrating Pride, don't forget that some of its biggest supporters weren't always on its side. For more, we turned to Dulce Sloan for

another installment of dul saying hello friends. It's June, which means it's the first month of the year where it's just hot enough outside to not be sexy. But in America, we know June also means gay pridemn. So I want to wish everyone abbey pride and I'm not the only one. This year, it feels like every damn company with the logo is going full rainbow. You've probably seen these ads like Burger King offering whoppers with two top buns and

two bottom buns. Listen, it's still bread, and every gay man, I know it's not eating bread in the summer. They're doing keto and crunches until October. But don't forget companies weren't always jumping on the Pride float looking like a Lisa Frank trapper keeper. When the gay rights movement first began in nineteen sixty nine, most companies were too afraid to advertise to gay people. They didn't want to offend the rest of America, especially religious conservatives. They were so uptight.

They thought pretzels are too sexy, all those twists, Oh it's so sinful. So companies kept their distance, except for Absolute Vodka. Absolute was one of the first big company needs to market to the clear communities because those suites don't give a ship about the religious right. They were like, who cares if the right doesn't like us? All they drink his milk. So thanks to Absolute for being a

true ally. It's a good year. I didn't drink the whole day because I gotta work, meaning after this, and they said, I got to be sober this time. Anyway, As gay people became more visible in society, some advertisers slowly started reaching out into the community, until the AIDS epidemic blew up. That's sick companies flame for the hills again. Oh no, what if the gay is look at our ads?

Is that how you get Earth. But you know what company doubled down on their advertising during the AIDS crisis, That's right, absolute Voca A second half got a kick? Damn all right? Where was that? Right? By the ninety nine is the queer community had once again fought its way into greater acceptance, So brands once again tried to dip their toes into the pool party, but they were still too nervous to jump all the way in so American advertising into the phase now known as gay they,

which sounds a lot like being in a fraternity. Basically, it was companies hinting at possible homosexuality, like this vokswagon add were two dudes are driving in a car and then pick up this dirty ass share off the sidewalk. So the ad leaves it open to interpretation. Are they roommates? Are are they roommate lovers? Because that's the worst kind of hook up. You gotta wait for them to text

you back and finish up in the bathroom. Now, a few times during this era a brand tried to make an outright gay ad like Benaton and I Kid, and the ad completely one over the religious right and they apologized for everything. Psych one Ikea in Long Island even got a bomb threat. What is wrong with these religious fanatics? They know the furniture isn't gay, right. Plus, if there's one place that can reassemble after a bombing, it's an idea.

Unfortunately for the religious right, but luckily for everyone else, their time was ended. Over the next two decades, Americans started to realize that gay people were just the same as everyone else, except with better apps, and as popular opinion improved, companies finally felt it was safe enough to take gay money, and this time it was major brands.

Amazon started advertising the gay people, Coca Cola air the commercial with two dads during the Super Bowl, and Just Salad even had a big gay salad which come on that was just a regular salad at least saw some glittering in it. And that brings us to today when practically every company has pride my marketing. But just because every June of business acts like they're auditioning for Joseph and the Amazing Technicolor Dreamcoat, it doesn't mean their values

line up with their tweets. Take a T and T for examples. They love to show everyone how much they support pride while also giving one million dollars to anti LGBTQ politicians and packs, or how retailers like H and M or launching Pride collections with items made in countries that criminalize homosexuality, which is another reason where in this ugly ass top should be a crime. And they aren't

the only hypocrites donating to anti queer causes. But hey, why go through all the trouble of listening them here? I'm no hater? Oh that one too? Okay, are we done? Listen? Let's make it the sense. The point is, enjoy all those gay whoppers and paint toil it is, But don't forget what this month is about. Pride to the time to celebrate the right to love who you want, and to honor the people who fought to give us that right back when no brand was on their side. Examt

for absolute mh. You know what? What are those gay whopper sounds real good about? Now? I'm dizzy? Thank you so much for that. Don't say sling all right? When we come back. Katie Turle with a journey up on the show you don't want to Missay talking about from the day show My Deest Life is an award winning journalist and MSNBC anchor who writes about chasing news at an early age and her pioneering helicopter journalist parents in her new memoir called Rough Draft. Please welcome Katie Turco

back to Katie Turf, Welcome back to the show. Thank you so much for having me. It's exciting to be here. It is. It's exciting to have you because you know, your last book went on to become a New York Times bestseller. Congratulations, kids. I feel like this book has has the same in store, and I think for a slightly different reason. You know, many people have seen you on MSNBC. People have seen you on the campaign trail covering Donald Trump, and you know, changing what you do

on your show these days. But this book takes us through one of the most harrowing childhoods that's filled with you know, moments of joy, moments of pain, moments of terror. Really, and I think let's let's start at the beginning to situate people. Everyone talks about helicopter parents, but you mean actual helicopter parents. When you you know what I mean, everyone goes id, No, you had helicopter parents. Just explained

that for the people to under parents. My dad was a helicopter pilot, and my parents had a helicopter news gathering company, and I grew up in the helicopter. I spent more time in the helicopter than I did in my own bed. I would fly the helicopter alongside my dad. I developed an unhealthy obsession with backyard pools because in Los Angeles, everybody had a backyard pool, it seemed, except me,

and you were just the person in the helicopter. You know what's interesting about your story is, in many ways, I feel like it tracks news in America. You know where you were as a child. You were at what many would argue was the beginning of the cycle, the o J Chase. That was your dad and my mom. Yeah, right, following that that, you know, and then your mom is there.

Everyone's working the cameras. My mom is hanging out of the helicopter with a camera on her shoulder quite literally, just strapped in with a belt, looking down at the ground which is a thousand five feet below her. The o J Chase. They were the first ones to get that. The Reginald Denny beating during the Riots, Stanley Riots, the guy that got pulled out of the red truck and

beaten to within an inch of his life. Any police pursuit you saw in Los Angeles in the nineties and the late eighties, Madonna giving the camera the bird on her wedding day to shot men. My parents shot that. It feels it feels like in many ways that was the I don't want to say like your your your parents invented that, but that was sort of their style, you know that that was a thing he did sort

of invented. Actually, so they were if they didn't cover the very first police pursuit, it was the second, and they were the ones that popularized it. They were the ones that that changed the way news was covered in Los Angeles and then the country, and then you could argue the world it was breaking in the moment, it was now now now context needed blow out everything and

cover this for as long as we can. You know, it was an easy decision going forward, whatever was happening, It didn't matter if there was a chase going on, go to that chase, people will watch. It feels like there's one part of us that's like eternally grateful to your parents for you know, starting this trend, and oh, we get to see what's happening. On the other hand, it feels like this became the drug, that news became addictive. It is a double edged sword because they captured things

that you were not supposed to see. They captured the police brutally beating immigrants on the side of the highway. I mean stuff that the police would have gotten away with had my parents not been there. So they did some incredible things, and they want all the awards that there are to win. But they you could say arguably that they were responsible for the downfall of local news, maybe the downfall of national news, the addiction to reality

TV as news. And I do think you could draw a straight line from the way we covered pursuits back then to the way we covered Donald Trump in and the way we cover politics now. Yeah, it seems like it's all about them now, it's all about what's unfolding. Nobody takes time anymore. Don't digest it, just put it on the air. Do you ever feel pressure as a journalist to be in that space because you're on MSNBC,

it is twenty four hours, everything is happening live. How do you how do you find that balance between waiting for more information whilst also telling the people what's happening. I think we're learning in real time right now, and I do think we are learning from our mistakes. Um.

I write about in this book the Bar summary. Uh, you know when A. G. Bar came out and he gave the summary of the Mueller Report, which was ended up being weeks before the Muller Report came out, and so he gives us the summary on a Sunday, and it is misleading, as we know right now. It didn't have any of the underlying evidence. But because we were covering it live, live, live, we went to air with it and essentially became a pawn in a political document that then had a head start for the truth in

front of the truth for weeks. The problem that we face right now is that there is a part of the country that has demonized journalists and has said that we only report one thing, we only want the outcome to be a certain way. So say we didn't go up with the Bar report, and other people did, Fox News did, or other outlets on the right, Bright Bart, etcetera. And we didn't, and we said we're going to wait

until we get the full context of it. They would have used that as fodder to say hey, listen, we're not going to report on something that was good for Donald Trump. Right, It's damned if you do, damned if you don't. There's another part of the book that I feel is particularly pertinent, not just because of the month we're in, not just because of the time we're in, but because of I think life and relationships as a whole. And it's you talking about your relationship with your father

who transitioned and came out as transgender. I don't think I've I've written account from a person that is as personal as as as yours is, because you talk about being raised by a father who was you know, self struggled, rage like real anger to towards you. It was an abusive household to be and you were terrified as a child.

And then you have this moment where your dad says, hey, no, I'm now she and call me Hannah, and it becomes this whole journey and then asks you to throw away the old memories of another person and just live with somebody new. It's a it's very like layered question. But what do you think we can all learn? What? How did you navigate what has to be one of the

most confusing issues happening in society. It was very confusing in the moment, and what made it confusing is that life is complicated and childhood's are complicated, and mine was especially complicated for distinct reasons. I loved my childhood. It was so much fun and there was so much love within my family, but it was also incredibly scary. At times. My dad, as you said, would fly into rages. There would be holes in the walls of our house that we,

as little kids, would plaster over to cover up. Um. You know, I hid in the bathroom one time for hours because I was afraid of what my dad might do. Um. He threw things at my mother. And then when he called me, and I use he very specifically because in that moment, my dad was still he to me when he called to say, I am not a he, I'm a she. My name is not Bob to her. Bob to her is dead. Literally Bob to HER's dad is what he said. I'm Hannah, And we can throw away

everything that happened in the past. All of that is gone. That's where the rage came from. The rage will now be gone. I had a hard time with that, and it because of the of the content of what my dad was telling me, and the fact that my dad

had been living this life for so long. It made it even harder to to navigate, because, on the one hand, how awful for my dad, How horrible to have to live alive for that long and to not be your true self, and and of course that's going to make you a wound up person, and it's gonna it's gonna break you in some ways. But you were also my father, and you were also somebody who has done a lot of bad things to us and me my mother, and I can't just throw that away. I don't have the

ability to just forget those memories. And I tried to bring that up and it just didn't go well. It didn't go well. My dad didn't want to confront it, and I didn't want to let it go, and so now now we're estranged, and it sucks. I think what I appreciated most about it was it took an issue that many people are trying to turn into this homogeneous blob, and it showed us how many individuals are involved in

all the stories. You know, people talk about trans people as if it is one human being that is doing certain things when I talk about gay people as it and this showed you there are many stories, there are many people, there many complications. People, people are people. Yeah, it's it's a really fascinating book. Um, you shared so much. I think everybody is really gonna love reading it. For journalism, for life, for families, for everything. Thank you so much

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