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Movies vs. TV Series I Hold Up with Dulcé Sloan & Josh Johnson

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What’s the best form of entertainment: movies or TV series? At-home streaming or going to a movie theater? Daily Show correspondent Dulcé Sloan and Daily Show writer Josh Johnson discuss TV reboots, the heartbreak of TV show cancellations, the struggles of watching movies with your parents, and how Lifetime movies sparked Josh’s love for movies.

Original Air Date: September 1, 2022

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Speaker 1

You're listening to Comedy Central. Hello, friends, welcome to Hold Up Podcast. I asked the question, do we need to be talking about this now? But we are. I am Dual Say Slim, and I am a comedian, and I am a correspondent on the Daily Show, and I do the voice of Honeybeat of the Great North on Fox. Please them introduce my co host, Josh jaw Song.

Speaker 2

Hey, how's everybody doing?

Speaker 1

Mat y'all? Show you what you do? Uh?

Speaker 2

So, I'm also a comic. I do stand up, also write at the Daily Show, and I'm also online on the internet. You can find me on the Things That Josh Johnson Comedy.

Speaker 1

I'm excited about today's subject.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I can tell, thank you so much.

Speaker 1

Today's subject is movies versus TV series? And Joshua, where do you fall on this movie's versus TV series?

Speaker 2

I mean, I'm movies all day, all right, I'm movies on a plane, I'm movies in bed, I'm movies, you know, all all like, even sometimes when i know I'm not gonna be able to finish it, I still will turn on a movie before I get into a show.

Speaker 1

I'm obviously TV shows mm hmm. And I think I like TV shows because I think because I'm a trained actor, which a lot of people john't know. Also, Josh is also trained in the theater arts as well, not so much performance, but.

Speaker 2

Like no, not performance at all. It's actually just lighting.

Speaker 1

It's it's not like it's very hard though, Like I've tried to read, I don't like to read a lighting plot. I can hang likes, I cut gels and learn of jels, go goos, the whole nine, but I don't know how to like program a lifeboard.

Speaker 2

Mm hmmm, no, I'm with you. Yeah, it can be difficult. Acting to me is still wow, it's a lot.

Speaker 1

It's hard, no matter what people said. So I think for me because I am a trained a tour and people are gonna say, oh, don't you mean actress? No, I don't just for like people will say, like with comedians, oh don't you mean comedian? Bitch? If I met comedian, I would say comedian, I'm a comic. I like a TV series because, like I said, as an actor, I want to see more of the character. Right, So, because of the movie, you establish your character and then the

movie is over. So unless they do a sequel to this movie, all of the information that you have about these people, all of the storylines that you can have happening at one movie and it's done. Like I love the movie Karina Karina, right from the favorite movies, But we don't know what happened when E Live Girl grows up. We don't want to happen if do what we go Burgarelio's character get married, howlda you find out? No, no further information about them, because once a movie is over, girl,

it is over. But it's not like these you know, Marvel movies where they got one hundred and sixty three of them that come out, and any superhero that ever breaks the pages of a comic book is going to be thrown in an outfit. Put on this a TV? This what this? What like three hundred and eighty seven Marvel movie?

Speaker 2

Okay, this is no, no, no, I know, I'm with you. I'm with you. There will be three hundred and eighty seven one day. We're not there yet, right fifty six? Yeah. But my thing is when you when you talk about that specific aspect of why you think TV shows are better, I actually think that that's what ruins things for me when I watch TV is because you run a show so long that eventually a character does something that's low key out of character. So now you're like, why would

why would they even do that? They spent four seasons being this, this, this way, and then they just switch it up and now they're just a whole different person, you know, whereas with the movie, we know who they are and then it's over.

Speaker 1

This is one of those situations where I'm not trying to convince you that TV is better. I'm trying to say that I like a TV. Say, okay, I think a good compromise for you would be a like a Spanish novella, like a telenovella, or a Korean drama. So like a lot of Korean dramas. On My Wife, it's about sixteen to maybe forty episodes, and then the show is over. Now, if it's a super super popular series, they could bring it back, like the Boys of a

Flower series. It brought those back sometimes, but for the most part, once the show is over, the show is over and it never comes back again. So maybe if you're looking into like wanting that movie feel of there's the story, this part of these people's story end, then I think that like the Korean drama or the tot novella would be the where to go because with the TV series there's plenty of There is a show called My Kind of People. I've been watching on Hulu. It

was a Fox show. It's like these black people that live in like the Hantons or something, very old black money. This girls trying to get it and the first season ended with a cliffhanger.

Speaker 2

Mm hmm.

Speaker 1

And I don't know what's coming back. You've never watched a movie and been like, I wonder if this movie's coming back.

Speaker 2

I assume every movie is just one episode long, you know. And also the thing for me that makes movies, in my opinion, superior is that TV.

Speaker 1

I just told you I'm not trying to make this cop of tition, and you keep trying to make this a Is that what this whole podcast is me trying to keep the peace. You out here going for violence?

Speaker 2

It's it's some of it. It's it's definitely gonna be an aspect.

Speaker 1

Wow, because I think most of the time you think that I'm no one going for violence, when in this particular, I.

Speaker 2

Don't think, what do you mean? If you have to say what you mean? You know what I mean?

Speaker 1

Don't do that. Don't do that because you know absolutely fucking right that the.

Speaker 2

Two things with movies that you don't get with TV shows is that, first of all, a movie can have a premise that you can't make a show out of. Example, I think that their movie there's a movie called Coffeetown that f I'm very funny, that I enjoy very much, and it's just a movie about a guy who goes to the same coffee shop to work every day and the little hierarchy he has a little like ecosystem in there, and then they're gonna shut down his coffee shop, so

he tries to save it. You can't make a whole show about that.

Speaker 1

Yeah, you can't every episode and he's doing something different, trying to stay at the curth shot.

Speaker 2

I mean, if you got to save the coffee shop and that made different ways across seasons, it should be closed. But if it's just a film where it's like, hey, we're thinking about, you know, maybe selling this coffee shop, building something that was like, no, I love this coffee shop. Maybe this corporate environment will disappear. If I can heighten the crime rate around this coffee shop, they won't want

to buy here. You know, and now it's just that one idea neighbor, right, and so then that that that's one reason. And then the second reason is that no one can cancel your movie in the middle of the movie once the movie exists.

Speaker 1

That's not true.

Speaker 2

That's what happens with TV shows all the time. So you're telling me you've watched a movie on a plane that was done. Yeah, the movie doesn't stop in the middle. They made the movie. They don't always make the movie. I understand things that lose funding, but I'm talking about once they put it out there is out there with the whole story. You don't have to hope and wait and pray that you're favorite movie gets renewed every six months.

Speaker 1

I hear what you're saying. So you don't like the heartache, because like I've watched shows where it's like like Yasha Leicster was on this show about like going back through time and mid season the show got canceled. And then there was a show that Shonda Rhymes had that she was where it was it called star Crossed. So it was like basically what happens to the Capulets and the Montagueth after Romeo and Juliet Die.

Speaker 2

Yeah, but I think they.

Speaker 1

Show got canceled because they open casted. Their open casting was so open you couldn't even keep track of who the families were. Yeah, because people would just start because like Shakespeare, people just start talking mm hmmm. So then it's like, well, who the fuck is this?

Speaker 2

Would it would be great to go to a play with you and you've never seen the play before, right, but it's done it Shakespeare's style, so that someone just walks on from the opposite stage side. You know, we've been looking at stage left this whole time. Somebody enter stage right and just starts a conversation, and then you're in the audience just going, now, who the.

Speaker 1

Hell what listen? I have seen plenty of Shakespeare plays. I've built sets for Shakespeare plays. But I think you realize like when you're but like anytime you're watching any show, Yeah, a character pops up and someone has to introduce the character.

Speaker 2

What really bothers me in a TV show or movie is, like you said, you've put it perfectly, when a character enters, you have to address that character, You have to tell us who they are. But it actually bothers me in my bones when the writing is so bad that they just say all that just exposition. So somebody will walk in and they'll be like, Odysseus keg of Ethica, what are you up to today?

Speaker 1

So sometimes Shakespeare would introduce characters.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, and it's it's the one a Shakespeare brilliant poetry, sonnics whatever, that thing. That thing made me want to throw my book at English class. I'm like, who, cause who talks like that? You? You made us suspend disbelief for this entire scene and then you ruin it because at the edge you're like, oh, hello, mother, who were now meeting an act two C three?

Speaker 1

But it's like you're a watch a show and like even in a movie, like somebody are walking You're like, fuck, is this? Like? I just wish that somebody would write a TV show or a movie that made it easier to watch with your parents.

Speaker 2

Sure, yeah, because.

Speaker 1

If you're watching a TV show or a movie, who is that mama? Kind of watching this movie? As long as you've been watching this movie, I don't know who he is either.

Speaker 2

I think we're about to find out.

Speaker 1

We're about to find out. Well, I'm just trying to make sure I know what's going on, Mama, you know as much I have as much information as you have. I don't know who the fuck this man is. Just got here. Let's see, she will pause up to so fact, Well tell me who that is. He's the one that just got here? Well who is he? We think he might be this person, but we find you way to be this person. Unpaused TV to find out who he is.

Speaker 2

Now, I'll even throw this out there so you know my situation. I was raised with my mom, my aunt, my grandma, and my granddad. Because my granddad and I were out numbered, the TV was always under the control of the rest, you know it just so we watch a lot of Lifetime Movie Network, and we watched a lot of what was the other one? A lot of Oxygen, a little bit of we and then some TV won. Right now, I'm not saying I never got control of the TV. I got to watch my cartoons and stuff.

But I'm just saying, for like Primetime hours, Hey, would you.

Speaker 1

Like everybody else? Why Martin like everybody else?

Speaker 2

No, I'm I'm completely with you. All I'm saying is but when those weren't on, When those weren't on, it was Lifetime Movie Network and I think that some of that is what sparked some of my love for movies because then there because the movie would sometimes be poorly written, there was no there there were no extra questions to ask, so you just had to accept it gave you everything. And then and then my thing was there was this one movie. I wish I could remember it, but I

was a teenager and everybody. When I tell you, everybody in the movie look alike, it's like it's like they were casting the lead and they just loved everybody so much they were like, put him in the movie too, give him apart put him in the movie as well, because every dude looked like the lead. And I would say.

Speaker 1

He was an average sized, average build and had dark.

Speaker 2

Hair mm hmm, and a little bit of stubble, a little bit, just a little.

Speaker 1

Bit to let you know that he enjoys the outdoors. Yeah, might build some furniture by hand, but he has a good job.

Speaker 2

He can handle a splinter. He is gonna be all right.

Speaker 1

But what he could also do is listen mm hmmm, because your last boyfriend from the city. Lifetime movies are amazing because it's always someone leaving the big city.

Speaker 2

YEP.

Speaker 1

Yep, and coming back.

Speaker 2

Home at a Hallmark because we had no help. There's five of us watching right, and all of us, everybody in the house is like, why she kissing him? I thought that he was No, No, that one is her husband? Is it? Are you sure? And and the movie is a regular style movie, so there's characters that other characters are diametrically opposed to, so there'll be characters argue it. And it looked like he yelling at a mirror.

Speaker 1

He's just yelling at himself in his workshop.

Speaker 2

Yeah, and both got on. Uh was it plaid shirts y?

Speaker 1

Yeah, and jeans and a boot.

Speaker 2

Everybody looked like the bounty man.

Speaker 1

Everybody looks like the bounty man. And all of the girls are in some type of cardigan situation, a simile. They're always wearing it, they're always cold. All these Lifetime movies are set in the fall. I've never seen a Lifetime movie in summertime. Everybody has too much clothes on. The too much clothes on. She's probably blonde, mm hmm. And then there's another blonde.

Speaker 2

And everybody drink out of a mug with both hands. You've never seen anything like it. Everybody, no matter who it is they all just cupping healthy. How do you have?

Speaker 1

Well, we're gonna have a bachelorette party, but I just wanted to do something more intimate. And it's five white woman under one giant blanket, all watching their own movie.

Speaker 2

Yeah, a version of the movie that they're in, drinking hot.

Speaker 1

Poker because the last time she drink she got too.

Speaker 2

Wild, and wild means drove through a Wendy's drive through like just.

Speaker 1

Yes, like oh my god, Like those movies are not. But it's like, I think this is why people are like, Okay, we have to make sure that we cater to like Middle America. And I don't think that people understand that Middle America is all of America. You don't think that there's people in New York. Do you think people in There's not a woman in LA watching a fucking Lifetime movie holding both of her hands on a mug. You don't think that's happened.

Speaker 2

On a mug that says you already know it live laugh.

Speaker 1

Love.

Speaker 2

I think that when it comes to Lifetime shows, they have a little bit more of a of a replay value as shows. You know, when I look at WE, when I look at Oxygen, Bridezilla's How could you not? I would watch Bridezillas with my mom. We didn't even know what binging was in two thousand and two, and my mom and I were watching Bridezilla NonStop because you.

Speaker 1

Know, there's reality TV shows. We all need. There's reality TV shows, and it's MTV's fault. But well, actually the first reality show I think was Cops.

Speaker 2

I think it was Cops, but the one that really took off was Survivor.

Speaker 1

Was Survivor before Real World?

Speaker 2

I think it was at the same time frame, but I think Survivor was slightly before Real World.

Speaker 1

I remember watching Big Brother House and being like, what after the second season, I was like, what the fuck? Doing this makes no sense? I remember, I do know what comic it is. Who has a joke about the show Naked and Afraid? He was like, I was watching that show Naked and Afraid myself. Why are they naked?

Speaker 2

Yeah, you're afraid could naked.

Speaker 1

But why are they naked?

Speaker 2

Yeah? Also, you know they don't win anything.

Speaker 1

What do you mean?

Speaker 2

Okay? Soff okay, I know, I know we're going Tangent after Tangent, but this is important that you know. It is important that you know that show. Yeah, they don't win like Survivor and all these other shows win money. Right, Survivor they win money.

Speaker 1

They wont one hundred thousand dollars.

Speaker 2

Naked and afraid. No, No, Survivor, they'll win. I think they win a million.

Speaker 1

Now, oh sidebar. You know if you win anything on television, you have to pay the taxes on it.

Speaker 2

Hard, Yes, yes, you have to pay every tax.

Speaker 1

And that's how open go there. The cars people got mad because they were like, you gave me a car. No one told me they're gonna have to pay the taxes on this, bitch.

Speaker 2

Yeah you also, yeah, if you just wouldn't have aired given me the car, if you if you had come back from commercial and been like everyone in this audience is very happy, aren't they? Everybody just nodding, that would have been a very different situation. But but with Oprah points to you and says you have a car. Look, the IRS is also like, yes, he has a car.

Speaker 1

Oh, I'm sure. I'm sure there's some one person job at the IRS just to watch game shows.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 1

Yeah, because people don't like if you like you know, when you have like the showcase showdown on the crisis.

Speaker 2

Right, I didn't think about that, all of.

Speaker 1

Those vacations, the jet skis that living room set, all of those like applying anything, living room set, appliance's trips, boats ATVs, fucking gear supply to Tide. You have to pay the taxes on that.

Speaker 2

That's wild.

Speaker 1

You buy a bunch of furniture that probably won't fit in your house. Yeah, you got seven thousand dollars with furniture, and they have to pay a tax on seven thousand dollars exports? Is it California taxes? Is that the taxes at your house? Because if I came from across the country, play the prices right, and I live in Gary, Indiana? Who is shipping this living room set to Gary Indiana? Me or CBS?

Speaker 2

No? I think I think they have to or else you didn't win anything. I think the network paying for you to get the thing has to send it to you, or else you've won nothing, you hope.

Speaker 1

Because I think open gaming of cars out then people were like, keep it, keep it. I'm gonna paying tax fucking keep it. But this is your car. I just signed ship. I came for free tickets to a TV show of taper. You gave me a car and I bought this car. You gave me this car.

Speaker 2

Muck this car. I thought she bought two hundred cars and they just had pay the taxes on which is why they were upset, right because.

Speaker 1

I think somebody was just like, why didn't she just pay the taxes? And it's like, well, it's not her car. I think she should have paid the tax.

Speaker 2

Also, it doesn't. It doesn't have the same ring to it. It's like you get a card of year's worth of taxes. You get a card of years. What's the thing I'm gonna say.

Speaker 1

They haven't come up with any reality show like reality movies other than like Jackass.

Speaker 2

Oh that's that's fair. I think Jackass is the only one.

Speaker 1

Right. We're doing so much dumb shit. Why fit it into a season? Just give us two solid hours of your life to see how many times we can hit each other in the testa.

Speaker 2

I mean, it's it's more than that, though, it really is more. It's about friendship, and it's about skateboarding off roofs, and it's about getting punched by professional people that punch.

Speaker 1

Okay, I did not know that you were a Johnny Knoxville fan.

Speaker 2

I'm not even saying I'm a huge fan of the series. I'm just saying I see more in it than just.

Speaker 1

Shots into the ball I didn't know you were a jack ass.

Speaker 2

I mean, you're you're putting that on me right now.

Speaker 1

I'm saying, so you're a jackets, is what you say.

Speaker 2

I've said nothing of the sort. I am saying right now that there's more to that series Slash movies, Okay than you know, than just the ball shots. There's also farting and yoga studios, mid lesson, you know, there's there's just there's layers. Okay, they you should just be respectful of what they've built.

Speaker 1

You couldn't even say it, you couldn't even finish it. But also it's like some stuff shouldn't be a movie. Mm hm, Like they're trying to have a captive planet live action movie.

Speaker 2

No, no, definitely not a sincere one. The don Cheetle Captain Planet is one of the greatest captain planets of all.

Speaker 1

Oh, it's hilarious.

Speaker 2

There are a lot of movies that translate to shows, which in my opinion, just bolsters my point because it's like this, this movie is so good that we want to see more of it, and so I think that sometimes when you have a TV show and they do a movie version of it, it's like lackluster. It's just like it's fine.

Speaker 1

I think it could go both ways, cause it's like, Okay, Buffy the Vampire Slayer the movie not that great, Okay, the TV show fucking amazing, all right, And then like the Star Trek movies are supplements to the TV series where like you can get people to live Like one of the Star Trek movies, you actually have like Picard Meat Kirk and they actually live like one hundred yu apart, so there's a rift in time and they get to

meet each other and all of that. So you can see like your favorite like because it's just science.

Speaker 2

Fiction to my knowledge, and you know, listeners can write in if I'm wrong or whatever. I'm sure they'll let me know. I feel like, no, it's just it's it's it's funny because like it's not it's not in a bad way, like I'm not upset or anything, but I truly have catcha hell for that Tomato Soup episode, like.

Speaker 1

Just stay home. Are people dming you?

Speaker 2

Yeah? Yeah? People are people are d yeah? Uh wow.

Speaker 1

So you were trying to make sure you couldn't lose, and you said something so wild people have saved the time on their day. Yeah, Josh shua Is Zegil Johnson. Mm hmm, you're wild as hell.

Speaker 2

Bro TV has the advantage as well, along with Reality TV of having a game show because there aren't really game show movies.

Speaker 1

You know, well, they tried to do that with those choodsre A on adventure movies. Remember Netflix is trying to do that shit. And but this is the thing about those childre are on adventure movies. The ending is already Tom, you have two different endings, but they're still determined. So you're trying those choodre on a venture movies and if you've played a choice that it didn't have because the thing is the choices can't be infinite. You can't film

for every yeah thing. So eventually you get to a point and be like, yeah, you got have to make a different choice, Like, no, bitch, this one of my choice.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, just making me.

Speaker 1

Choose to make those choose your own adventure books, the book would be looking a thousand pages as opposed to the Hydred because I'm on a fifth grow lad level. What the fun?

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, I understand what you're saying. I just feel like those are those are two obvious advantages. But I think that to your point about there sometimes need to be more creativity for a TV show, I think that that's what creates the marginal.

Speaker 1

I didn't say there need to be more creativity for a TV show. I was saying that because movies are finite. Because movies the story has a beginning, middle, and an end. Uh huh, you only have to be as creat you only have to be creative enough to tell this story.

Speaker 2

I see. I see.

Speaker 1

It's like there's a show that I like. It's a Canadian TV show called The Murdoch Mysteries. The show has been on it just they just had their fifteenth season and they're our long shows. So for you to be able to maintain to keep the audience interested for this long, you have to be able to create more content, create more characters. Is this character going to die off? This character when to come back? Is this character on Nemesis? And at some point somebody is to fall in love

as a fucking kid. That's what I'm saying. It requires more creativity to do a TV show because you have to pre creating more content because America doesn't do shows. You show doesn't get canceled. You just have to cheap making more show.

Speaker 2

And that thing, that thing specifically is one of the reasons. I think movies edge it out too, because the Brits Korean dramas Novella's I think they do it right.

Speaker 1

They give I'm gonna do it right now. The Bristol would have work looser. You gave me four episodes in a season. There's this Australian show on the show from New Zealand called Broken Wood Mystery, only six episodes in the season, going to.

Speaker 2

Work No, no, no, no no.

Speaker 1

I think it's how do you make any money? They must pay them so much money to do those episodes, because I don't think I don't think they do either.

Speaker 2

I think that I think that's why they come come here and they do movies and TV here. I think that they give you just enough that you always want more, all right. I think that they even if even if it makes you upset, even and if you can't stand the fact that they stop at three or four or six episodes, you still are like, ooh, that's a good show. I wish they did more. They don't do it often enough, and when they do it, they don't give us enough,

you know. And so I'm saying that the way the audience, yeah, I'm saying the way that they do that is perfect. I think American TV does this thing for me where let's say there's a movie of something and there's a TV show of something. Right, the TV show may very well be better than the movie. But I think on a long enough timeline, the quality which almost always happens, which is why anytime it doesn't happen, we call that

show the greatest show ever made. The quality over years tends to decline, or characters start repeating stories, or like everything either becomes the same or the way that changes people don't like. I think that on a long enough timeline, the show falling apart then makes the movie better because you have to look at each thing as a body

of work. And so when I see the body of work of a TV show that ran too long versus the body of work of maybe a movie about that same thing, I think that the show definitely has the opportunity to be greater than the movie. But if the show goes on for too long, the movie edges it out. Because we can't stop. We can't act like all the seasons of a show didn't happen, and so if the later seasons of that show ruined the show, then the show is ruined. That's why people get upset.

Speaker 1

So what's an example of a TV show that went on for too long?

Speaker 2

I won't say it went on for too long, and I haven't watched all of it, so then I'm maybe people are gonna tell me I'm wrong, but I think that clearly almost everyone I've ever talked to that watched the show is upset with the way that they ended Game of Thrones, right, Yeah, And if you're this mad about the way they ended Game of Thrones, it makes a new person who's not involved want to start Game of Thrones because you're telling me I'm a fall in

love with something that everyone agrees they ruined.

Speaker 1

Oh like the TV show Lost, Like I never saw Lost, and how angry people were about the ending of Loss. I was like, I'm not I'm seeing it. I think I saw it like I don't know, like a Hulu or maybe nothing. There was somewhere I could like binge all of it. Yeah, And I was like, well, I'm not watching this fucking show. Everybody's so bad about how I ended it. There's a difference between the show ending and a show getting canceled.

Speaker 2

Yeah, that's true. That's true when your.

Speaker 1

Show get I don't feel like people who show got canceled in their shows in a different way than people who show, Like if you're shown gets canceled, Like listen, you're starting to shoot like the sixth season of your show, and you're like, listen, this is your lack you're getting. You're not getting in seventh season. You're getting canceled. You're getting canceled. I'm not getting in a seventh season. Right.

If you don't know it's coming, I think you end your show in a different way as opposed to like people who work on the show going we've decided that the sixth season is our last season.

Speaker 2

Mm hmm.

Speaker 1

It feels like those shows that get like canceled like that, it's almost like a fuck you to the Sometimes it's been like a fuck you to the audience, or it was like, but be nice to us, like we watched the show.

Speaker 2

Yeah. And I think that so much of the industry is just circling around money that people don't think about the fact that even if you are going to end something prematurely, give people time to let it end well, because you never know this. This might be like TikTok is teaching us right now that things that we cast away a long time ago, that we thought were old and washed up can have a resurgence. They can have a resurrection, you know what I mean, Like like what

like that song? Like many songs, so many songs have gone viral because of TikTok, and it's researched the careers of the people who made the song, Like whoa didn't that happen to Lizzo because Lizzos I thought that Lizo song that popped off was a song she had actually put out a while back, and it didn't pop when she put it out, but then it blew up on TikTok way later.

Speaker 1

Oh, they didn't happen.

Speaker 2

That's why I'm That's kind of what I mean. I'm not talking about like hella hella old bands. I'm just saying, look at Firefly. Firefly was this show that people thought ended too early. They got real upset, and it got such a rabbit fan base that now that's an interested fan base, you know, wants the show. You won't even have to guess as an executive.

Speaker 1

They have like a cult following, but they're still not going to bring the show back.

Speaker 2

But that's also what happens when you end something in a way that leaves people wanting more of it. If you just ended abruptly, people are either going to be like, why would I ever start this? Or why would I watch the whole thing? Maybe I just stop where I want to stop. You're never gonna get the analytics for a resurgence, you know.

Speaker 1

I'll ask you this, what movie? And you can ask me the opposite way, what movie would you want to see turn into a TV show?

Speaker 2

Some of it's already happened, So what we do in the Shadows was funny, and I think the show is funny, so funny. I think that if Guy Ritchie's The Gentleman could be turned into a TV show, we could see way more of the characters and the you hated it or you just haven't seen it.

Speaker 1

I haven't seen that what it is?

Speaker 2

There's just so many layers to that movie that I want to see expanded, and I think that that would be a great TV show if nothing else, just for me, what about you? Is there a show that you want a movie version of, because the one benefit I can say the other way around is that you can compress in a movie. If you do it too much, you

ruin the movie. You can compress in a movie a lot of what could have been a show and just really bottle it up and give someone a nice present of you look at Top Gun and the New Top Gun right twenty years in between those two movies, but it picks up right back where it left off, and it leaves us to grade thirty years. Oh, you're right, thirty years.

Speaker 1

Yep, that's a whole lifetime.

Speaker 2

So do you have a show that you want to be a movie?

Speaker 1

I don't always, you know, I think I'll always see the benefit of turning a TV show into a movie because you are, you're bottling things up and you're like trying to because it's like what would.

Speaker 2

Be the I'll give you something that will help you.

Speaker 1

Okay.

Speaker 2

The best time to do a movie based off a TV show is when the TV show has ended. Okay, a check in you know, Arthur TV show, Arthur TV show, Arthur movie.

Speaker 1

Yeah, Arthur movie. So it's let's say DW starting kindergarten Arthur's finally going to the fourth grade because Arthur's been in the third grade.

Speaker 2

For quite as quite a while, he's been held back.

Speaker 1

I mean everyone in his life has baby Kate has been a baby.

Speaker 2

Kate should college Like no, no, I'm with you.

Speaker 1

His parents are almost retires. But also they're rebooting all these TV shows. The only black show they rebooted was The Game, and the Game is very good. Why are we not rebooting like we rebooted for House. We can't reboots, you know, I.

Speaker 2

Think that Queen Latifah is too successful to reboot Living Single, not on those they can afford her.

Speaker 1

They can't, they can't, they can't.

Speaker 2

That's the problem is that a lot of these people from some of these famous like black sitcoms, oof, they either have gone on to make too much money and they're just not interested, or something has happened.

Speaker 1

Family matters, you can reboot family matters.

Speaker 2

You're right, Family matters. Family matters really just family matters. Now I think about it. Everything else I can think of is like a, No, you're not.

Speaker 1

Rebooting Martin, You're not Brothers, NA, You're not rebooting girlfriends because Tracy Allas Ross's two famous and we already got our lotw key girlfriend's rebroot when they brought her friends on an episode of Blackish.

Speaker 2

Yeah yeah, I would say, Oh, I.

Speaker 1

Know a TV show that was able to blend doing movies while still having their show sick. But I think because sich was an hour long TV.

Speaker 2

Show yeah translated, well, their.

Speaker 1

Movies were just an hour and a half. Yeah yeah, So then you know, the TV shows a little bit longer you have to go for like the mercery breaks. But Pach did a great job.

Speaker 2

Do you watch much a little bit? Psych loved that, so so I'll throw I'll throw it to you all the listeners. We you know, we've been talking about this back and forth for quite a while. I feel like we've both made some very good points. We both know how we feel about certain shows and programs now, but we want to hear how you feel. Okay, is it TV shows for you? Is it movies? And look, far

be it from me to bring down movies. If you don't think I did a good job, but you still love movies, you can let me know, all right, lord knows and find out how everybody feels about me after the tomato thing, So like, just go ahead, catch.

Speaker 1

Up with Tomato suit. You crazy man. It's not about people aren't coming at you like.

Speaker 2

I'm not offended. I understand why they're doing it. I'm just saying I'm acknowledging that it's happening.

Speaker 1

Wow.

Speaker 2

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Speaker 1

Because the thing is, the more listeners we get, then eventually we'll be able to do this live in front of an audience. And that's what, yeah, everybody wants.

Speaker 2

Yeah, that's what everybody was is just see me snap finally, you know, just all the way completely.

Speaker 1

STAMPLI You're just like I did this, then he just rip your shirt like yeah.

Speaker 2

Yeah, I didn't ask for this, all right, Grilled cheese is a castle and then I walk off.

Speaker 1

Hot dogs are Stanwich.

Speaker 2

Let me tell you something right now, hot dogs is steak. At Anybody who says differently can fight me. But yeah. Thank you all so much for listening, and we look forward to talking to you next week. I hope you have a great rest of the day into an amazing weekend.

Speaker 1

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Speaker 2

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Speaker 1

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