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I'm Jordan Clapper and this is pretty exciting everyone. This is the first time the show has let me sit down in five years. We've got a great show for you tonight, including an interview with AOC. But sure, but there's a lot to talk about, so let's get into the headlines. It's a day in America, so we're talking about guns. This weekend was the National NRA Convention, also
known as Cargo Pants Comic Con or the Westminster Stepdad Show. Now, people like the stereotype NRA members as gun obsessed whack jobs who want to arm little babies. And the thing about stereotypes is sometimes they're spot on.
I've got three kids, two son in laws, and did you know that I'm also a grandmother, not just once, but twice. Have two beautiful grandchildren, little miss Addie who is almost two, in Branch who's just a few months old. Now Addie, who you know soon will need them. I want to reassure you she already has a shotgun, and she already has a rifle. And she's got a little pony named Sparkles too, So the girl is set up.
Wow, it's the governor of South Dakota. Bagget about her two year old granddaughter owning guns.
Bolds.
When my kid was little, I was covering outlets, locking cabinets, and cutting grapes in a half because they might be a choking hazard. Christineam Is like, here's a shotgun. You're on watch tonight, sick a six sepper taratus.
Look.
I know liberals and conservatives don't agree un much, but can we agree that you should not own a gun if you don't know how to poop in a ponty?
Hello?
Although it is adorable that she has a pony named Sparkles, in fact, you'll excuse me for a second, I need to address Sparkles directly. Sparkles, this will not end well for you. These people are clearly insane. Ron while you still can, there is no time for goodbyes.
Go go, my friend, go.
Yeah.
Look, Look, to be clear, To be clear, I'm not bringing up Christy Nome just to make fun of her grandkids.
I would never do that. They've got guns I'm.
Bringing up Christy Nome because she gave us a great insight into what creates the worldview of an NRA member.
My dad taught us life lessons.
He taught us common sense, and often those who are taught during our hunting trips. For instance, I remember being only about nine or ten years old, and we had hunted all day, miles and miles from camp in the high Country and the Big Horn Mountains, when my dad turned to me and he said, Christy, hunt your way back to camp. I'm going to go around this ridge and I'll meet you there at dark and he disappeared
over the ridge. Now to a ten year old girl, this was terrifying, and as strange noises came and darkness fell, I had to rely on my instincts and my horse to find my way back to our tent. Now, years later, I'm shared with me that my dad had followed me at a safe distance all the way back to camp to make sure that I got there safe. Now, before you get all warm and fuzzy on him, I also want to tell you that he made bare noises the whole time he was following me, scratching trees and growling at me.
So you know.
What an adorable story about alcoholism. Excuse me one second, seriously sparkles. This family is nuts. Get out of there, trust no one six eper tyranus.
Okay, fuss.
The real purpose of an NRA convention isn't to tell fun family stories of childhood abandonment. No, so to explain why all the gun violence of the last year had nothing to do with guns. In the past, they blamed video games, rap music, and for a brief period in the ninety is the rachel It could be anything, well, not anything. It can't be guns, but anything else, and this year was no different.
You want to do something, you can ban social media in kids under the age of fifteen or sixteen before you take guns away.
This is a mental health problem.
It's undiagnosed mental health and the motivations of the transactivists.
This is a cultural problem.
Bring back the family.
This is a spiritual problem. The American media genetically engineered cannabis.
Weed.
Really, when I get high, the only thing I want to massacre as a bag of fudiance. If you're blaming gun violence on weed, you're not even trying anymore. These people are just name checking things they don't understand on the news, it's weed, it's jed GPT, it's love is blind, crashy Netflix?
Is that a thing?
A thing?
Is it a thing?
This is just the NRA deflecting. They're stoking these fears, fears of rampant crime, trans people, wokeness, doobies, it's all, it's all.
Coming to get you.
And you know what happens when you combine a culture of fear and guns. You get the story that just came out of Kansas City where a kid trying to pick up his siblings knocked on the wrong door and got shot and wounded by the homeowner.
That kid wasn't.
Shot by weed or social media. He was shot by a scared person with a gun. And this is the climate the NRA is stoking. They're the irresponsible loud mouth hiding in the woods, making bare noises, scratching on trees so that you feel scared enough to go and get yourself a gun.
But you know what, it's my first night. Enough about gun violence.
Let's move on to something more lighthearted, the corrosive rod of our judicial branch. I'm talking about Clarence Thomas, the Supreme Court justice. Yeah, big fans, I can tell you know me, he's the Supreme Court justice who's taken more free vacations than all the Bravo Housewives combined. Last week we learned that Thomas had secretly accepted luxury trips from right wing billionaire Harlan Crowe. And that's his actual name, not his Game of Thrones cosplay character.
And now we're.
Finding out that back in twenty fourteen, Harlan Crowe bought a house and two vacant lots from a Clarence Thomas from Clarence Thomas for one hundred and thirty thousand dollars, which is outrageous. I'm shocked that in America, in my America, there are still places where you can buy a house and two vacant lots for one hundred and thirty thousand dollars. I'm mad about the corruption, but I have to admit
that's a steal. On top of that, Clarence Thomas's mom is still living in that house rent free, and Harlan Crowe is paid for thousands of dollars of renovations, of which Clarence Thomas should have disclosed by law, although in his defense, the laws complicated and he's only a Supreme Court justice.
For more.
For more of the legal nuances of this story, we turned to a Supreme Court expert, Ronnie Chang Ronnie.
Running, Ronnie, where are we right now?
Where am I?
What you think I am? I'm at Clarence Thomas's mom's house.
That's the house.
Oh, technically this is the poolhouse. I mean they built it last week. But obviously they're going to do a gut reno because I mean it.
Looks like shit. That's insane, Ronnie.
These revelations about money flowing to a Supreme Court justice are frankly, they're shocking.
Really, Jordan, you're shocked?
Are you shocked?
Have you been have your precious norms been violated?
Oh?
No, somebody helped Thomas and Harland Crowe bent over and double team Jordan Klippwell's innocent principles.
Stop it, stop it. Stop it.
A professional news person, I don't have principles, right.
You know what's really shocking here is this billionaire is wasteing so much money buying Clarence Thomas flights and houses and shit the vote conservative. Hey, use flash, billionaire Clarence Thomas is already conservative, all right. It's like bribing Nick cannon to hit it raw. Yo, he was gonna do that anyway.
Save your money, Jordan. You know who I do blame.
For this, Uh Harlan Crowe's parents for giving him an evil villain name.
Yes, but no, I blame these dumbass whiny teachers pet liberals. Hey, if Clarence Thomas can be bought, then why aren't you buying him mom?
Instead?
You give bid old rock like a billion dollars to come in in a student council election. Right, why don't you take that money and bill Clarence Thomas's mom and you garage a yoga room and a Hella pool.
How did you mean a helipad? No, I said Hella pool.
Okay, it's a pool for helicopters, so you can land straight in the water and start walking down.
Like a peasant.
Maybe abortion would still be legal if liberals bought a pool for Clarence Thomas's moms helicopter.
Okay?
Is that so crazy? Yes? Yes, it is crazy. Ronnie. You don't fix corruption with more corruption.
What is the message you're sending when you let money influence decision making?
Jordan, I will give you one thousand dollars if you agree with me right now.
I would never betray my integrity for one thousand dollars. Maybe five? Okay, how about three? Three? Deal?
Yeah?
Ronnie Chang is right. Everyone always come about my interview.
With courten don't go away.
On the backs of the Violence Show.
There's a lot of depressing news about gun violence in America, but the good news is that there are people working on solutions. I met up with New York Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio Cortes to talk about one possible solution right here.
In New York City.
I met with the congresswoman at Jacobe Hospital in the Bronx to discuss its stand Up to Violence program, which has showed an impressive forty six percent reduction in retaliatory violence in its first few years. As a Democrat focused on violence, isn't that off brand.
Well from the Bronx, So it's on brand for where I'm from.
There is a lot of discussion around what progressives can do about violence in a big city.
What the data has showed us is that if you respond to violence as a public health issue instead of as an incarceration issue, violence decreases. And that's what we're doing here at Jacobe hospital.
Are there cops here at the hospital that are addressing the issue?
Hell no, okay, no, this is listen.
And there's security presence and police presence that is standard at any hospital, but that's not what this program is about. In the traditional response to an incidence of violence, a shooting or a stabbing, you may go to the er real quick, you get patched up, and then you go straight to the precinct. What we decided to do is that we said, hey, let's shift the response and see what happens when we make the center of response a hospital instead of a jail.
When a patient comes to the er with a gunshot wound, the Stand Up to Violence Team works with the victim and members of the community to prevent violent retaliation. You're essentially talking about preventative medicine here.
It is absolutely in America. It's not exactly our thing. We're not known for that.
We're more of a reactive medicine.
At Society, And you know, we have caseworkers, we have social workers, we have therapists, and we also have people who themselves are once incarcerated. Some of our most effective people in this work are the former gang members, people who formerly spent time at rikers.
I can hear how Fox News would spend this as AOC tries to defund.
The police and fund gang members.
If I spent my time worry about what Fox News said, I would I mean, I wouldn't be here.
We're in New York City and you're talking about funding violence prevention outside of the police, and yet Eric Adams has just increased police wages by twenty eight percent.
Is that misplaced?
I think so. We are now at a point where officially, most officers are paid more than a teacher with a master's degree serving these same kids involved in these same incidents. We are defunding safety, defunding our public schools, defunding our public pools, defunding our parks, defunding our libraries, when we are taking all of those resources and demanding that every single department except the militarized one, because we are sending a message about who and what we care about.
Here in a hospital, do you ever get the vibes? Do you ever consider a career in the medical profession.
It's funny you asked that. When I went to college, I went in as a pre medical student. Really I wanted to be in obgim actually, but you know, life takes us in where it takes us.
I considered going into the medical profession. I thought I could play at handsome doctor on TV.
Didn't pan out. While we were on.
The subject of national embarrassments, I had to ask the congresswoman about Clarence Thomas, and as BFF Nazi swag collector Harlan Crowe, I want to talk a little bit.
About Clarence Thomas.
You've said you would even draft articles of impeachment for the things that he's done.
Yeah.
Has there been any quid pro quo?
And I said quid pro quote partially because it took all that effort to learn what quid procol you get back in the Ukraine days, and it feels apropos of now.
And I don't think I used a propo correctly. I think that quid pro quo is this bar.
That doesn't even need to be met. The justice is required by law to disclose something like that, and he hasn't been.
Can you empathize though Beyonce came through here. I wanted to take you on a sweet vacation. Wouldn't you say yes? And let her show you her Nazi memorabilia.
Tell someone about it, But hey, hey, don't put Bathe name on that like that.
I'm not saying she has not I'm saying if she invested in Nazi memorabilia to show that she hates Nazi.
Memorabilia, she'd want to show it off.
And that whole thing is just, I mean.
Bizarre.
You also don't keep the linens around.
Which lenins the Nazi LINENX Yeah, who does that? Don't you think if you had a billion dollars and you bought everything, you'd probably eventually get to Nazi linens.
This is a distraction of that whole issue.
You're right, we're just focused on that as opposed to all the money that's going over to Clarence Thompson.
Although if you're a billionaire, billionaires have friends, they can.
Supreme Court justices are required if they are receiving money from people. They shouldn't even be receiving money from people. This is why we paid salaries to public servants. And if they want to live that kind of lifestyle, then they can resign from the court.
They can retire. Now I want to talk about the court. It's looking as if the Supreme.
Court is going to rule on some of the conflicting rulings around Mifipristo. Who do you think is going to write the final decision that takes away these vital.
Rights from women. Is it going to be the guy who.
Cried over beer or is it going to be the buddy with the Nazi memorabilia?
Guys, you know, my hope is that they we do not get to that point. But we also have to face the reality that the Supreme Court has chosen to give up huge swaths of their own legitimacy. Chief Justice Roberts Clarence Thomas Brett Kavanaugh, the Republican Party in them giving up trying to take seriously the legitimacy, the standards, the integrity of the court. They have given up a very large degree of their authority.
The new news in Florida this week is the six week abortion ban. How do women approach that or fight back against something like that that's happening in Florida.
Of course there's the standard vote and mobilize, But I'm going to put that aside for a second. We do not have to accept tyranny. And this is a form of tyranny. It is a form of violence. Women will die, people will die because of this decision, and it will be by and large the men who sign these laws that are killing the women that will die by them. And we have a responsibility to help one another, whether that is supporting organizations that male mifipristone, which has significantly
reduced risk, certainly safer than medications like viagra. But ultimately we cannot continue to accept people in power who will abuse others for their own game.
Indictment week was last week. It might also be a month from now too. We could have a lot of indicatories. How do you think New Yorkers treated former President Donald Trump?
I think they treated him like a Florida man.
He don't belong to us no longer.
Okay, you're not from Queen's anymore. He's a citizen Marlago, I think.
And you said New Yorkers treating him as such?
Yeah, why wouldn't we?
Do you think people were weeping when he was booked as he claims.
Maybe George Santos and Marty Tayler Greenen were, but not me.
Kick it back to La Wario, Maybe kick it back to LaGuardia, which is in your district.
Yes, it's in my district, and so is Rikers and so we have I have to go in every single day watching people get treated far worse for doing far less. And then you know, it's like this red carpet that gets ruled out. I mean, if you hurt one person, you get ten years in prison, but if you hurt millions of people, you get your name on a building.
Congrich woman, thanks for talking about.
Of course, Thanks for having me.
Thank too.
We goes.
Let me come back, Benny Gilpin, let me join them on the shelves.
I say.
My guest tonight is an Any nominated.
Actor and you know from Glow and Gaslin.
She's here to talk about her new drama series.
For Peacock called Me. This is Davis. Please welcome Betty Gilpin.
All right, Betty, welcome to the Naither Show.
Thanks for having me, of course.
Now there's a lot of buzz around this missus Davis show, is there?
There is buzz. Great's part of it, right, This is what you want, right?
Yeah?
I think so, No, you're doing great.
You're doing great, Betty, doing great?
Right, But I watched a clip like that. There's a lot going on, and there's a lot going on in the show.
So much going on.
Yeah, in fact, they've told us they're like, there's a lot of spoilers. Yeah, you can't talk about certain things.
So many things you can't talk about, impossible to promote.
I'm not used to doing something so plot heavy.
Usually the plot of things I do are like when is she going to sob or have sex?
And that's kind of like.
The plot twists that episode one, right, Yeah, and this plot is like a Rubik's cube had sex with a haunted calculator.
It's the best.
I feel like there's a bunch of different genres going on in this, yes.
Like one hundred different jore I keep saying, it's like no Country for old looney tunes is the genre that's about, right.
Yeah, right, yeah, in a nutshell, a spoiler free nutshell. Yes, essentially you are a nun who's part of the resistance fighting an all knowing AI.
Yes.
Yeah, so the show kind of it.
Almost sounded like a joke, as I've called it rash Hollywood in these old cliches.
Chat GPT wrote that synopsis. Yeah, yeah, it's a society not unlike our own, but one where an AI or an algorithm like Siri or Alexa called missus Davis has kind of taken over. Is in everyone's ear, purports to be benevolent, and there's a small faction of society myself a nun included, that thinks she or it is evil and not to be Try.
Now, how do you train because there's a lot of fighting. How do you train to be a fighting nun? Is it is it kung fu?
Is it Bible?
You know?
It's more?
Yeah, after glow, it's that felt like falling down a cement staircase every day. So this is like, yeah, I guess I faw in my butt like three times in the show. It's not as comparable, but I I zoomed with nuns to prepare.
Is that sacrilegious?
Can you do that?
Yeah?
No, they love to zoomoom.
They're like, yeah, breaks the monotony. Thank you. What do you want to know?
Yeah?
Did you ask them at all about fighting? Like if you had to fight? I know it's not your first go to, but if you had to, what would you do?
Yeah? I mean I think you know.
On screen we're used to seeing either like one dimensional climb every mountain pious nuns or horror movie nuns with like blood coming out of their eyes and the nuns I spoke to were you know, three very different, multifaceted women, And while I don't hold the same belief system that they hold, I was very impressed and had to kind of check the cliche of them that I had in my head, which was very wrong.
So none of them had blood coming from their eyes. No, not one really.
Maybe the second they de zoomed like, okay we can we can cry blood.
Yeah, water turned to blood.
It's all the whole religious that I've been read up on it, but I think that's how it goes.
Down to the blood happens chapter three of the Bible.
Now, what is your relationship with with AI? Are you fearful of it? You're you're a wonderful writer as well as an actress. Do you look at something like even chat GPT? Do you fear that it's coming for your jobs?
Yeah?
It's really scary. I mean, you know, I mean the Internet in general, it's weird. I have a two and a half year old.
We were talking a back stage so a lot.
Here's they're going to be betrothed to each other. We arranged their marriage?
Yes?
Oh sorry, yeah, yeah, with FYI, we've been we've been doing you're fine.
It's actually yeah, everything's great.
But you know, I try to limit her screen time and I snatch phones away from her like it's poison And then I myself can't pee without watching Millie Bobby Brown take a lide detector test because I'm so addicted. I'm addicted to the thing that I'm telling my daughter is poisoned. So I don't know, I have to get right with that before she's on the grid of understanding.
But in terms of AI, I think our show, Missus Davis on Peacock April twentia, is kind of asking the same question that we are asking now, which is are you our savior or are you our downfall to AI? And even when we were filming chat GPT six months ago, wasn't as much a part of the headlines as it is now.
And I don't know, it's really scary.
It is scary.
Yeah, I feel like this show it kind of asked that question, or it looks at when you look at guidance, do you turn to technology?
Do you turn to God? Yeah?
Like are you are you a God believer or Elon Musk believer? Right, it's sort of right, where do you follow in that line, have you.
Have you picked a side yet? I mean one's got rockets.
Right, Yeah, I mean I myself am not a person of faith, but I do think this show has made me think a lot about you know, church and the Internet being these two sort of institutional responses to the same human question, sort of of asking why and wandering and wanting to wandering and wandering and wanting to connect
with each other. And I think we often use church and the Internet to do the opposite of what they were probably built for, which is to connect and wonder, and we use it to disconnect and to provide all the answers in your echo chamber. And I think, you know, I look at my daughter, and I hope that we're just the generation driving without seat belts using this to disconnect and get dumber. Maybe they can use it to connect and get smarter, but I don't know, I probably not.
What is your daughter obsessed with?
My son loves Gabby's Daljas and Bluie NonStop in our house.
Yeah, I mean, she booped her pants on Easter, So I don't know. If she's like the future of AI. Yeah, but oh sorry, Mary, like you kidding?
Yeah, she's into she's like a.
Fluffy Thor Lebowski as a two year old girl.
She's awesome for Labowski.
Yeah, finally, now part of what's exciting about missus Davis David Lindehoff is one of the creators of this from the Watchmen Lost Days. I feel like Watchman was such a compelly storyline that came at big topics from a different angle and also and had the story unfold in a way that feels both mature and like it's cutting ground.
You've worked with him before.
I wonder what drew you to working with him again and what it was about this project that you found interesting and it's storytelling to him?
Yeah, so he, Damon Lindelow and Tara Hernandez created this show together and they are both geniuses at.
What I believe Kara genius at too, Jordan Klepper, which is.
Go on, you don't have to say it like a robot. I mean, that's.
Well, I think your genius of this as well.
You came sorry perfect.
They you know, they hide a thesis statement in farce, which I think you know. Oftentimes when we're sitting down to decide what to watch on TV every night, we often are faced with either joyful and mindless or important and depressing. And I think finding joyful and important is hard to do, but possible, and I think Damon and.
Tara both do it really beautifully.
And I think our show is an example of that, and this show is an example of.
That joyful and what important? All right, right?
Important?
Yes, the first more episodes of a dators with more reported.
Back.
I'll get it. That's all shop for tonight.
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