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I Jordan Flipper. We got so much to talk about tonight. Kamala and Trump prepare for tomorrow night's debates. We hunt down the person who's sending you all those campaign emails, and Dick Cheney is once again taking shots at his Republican friends. So let's get into our continuing coverage of

Since then, Sure, sure, I don't know.

If that's a fair counting, but we'll take it. Since then, I've been out of the loop, just sitting on a sandy beach, sipping on some my ties, and I can only assume Kamala remains on a smooth path to victory in November. So perhaps I'll take a comically large sip of this drink I brought back from the beach for some reason, and see what I missed.

Former President Donald Trump leads Vice President Kamala Harris by a razor thin margin forty seven percent among likely voters.

That was a good drink, But that poll is not good. Kamala is down a point. Seriously, she's saying, never tried to overthrow the government, not six hundred years old with a rap sheet. I mean, what else does Kamala have to do? Two interviews and come on, be reasonable people. But okay, here we are less than two months out from the election. We've basically got a tide race. The candidates are doing everything they can do to ramp up the excitement. Kamala is speaking to voters in Pennsylvania and

Don't worry JD.

I'm with you, and so are millions of other men with Pepperoni nipples. I see you, I see you, I see you Now.

While JD.

Van's appeals to the self conscious middle schooler vote, Donald Trump has secured the endorsement up RFK Junior, Tulsea Gabbard, and Elon Musk, three people who will help Trump reach voters who are undecided about what shape the earth is. Meanwhile, Kamala Harris just got an endorsement of her own.

Former Republican Vice President Dick Cheney announced that he will not vote for GOP nominee Donald Trump, but instead we'll back the Democratic candidate Kamala Harris.

Wow Wow, Wow, See, Kamala has something for everyone. Whether you're a trans person of color, or a white construction worker in the heartland, or an unrepentant war criminal who needs the blood of Iraqi children to power the machine that keeps them alive and out of the flames of hell for one more day.

Is your candidates.

And by the way, apologies to those of you who saw Dick Cheney's name trending on Twitter over the weekend and we're like, oh my god, this is it. But sorry, all of these endorsements and campaign stops and solo wet T shirt contests. Well, we'll come to a head tomorrow night when Kamala and Donald face off in a debate that could decide this election.

And I don't need to tell.

You how high the stakes are, because we all remember how the last debate between Trump and Joe Biden went, you know, not as bad as I remembered. Now, Kamala definitely has an advantage compared to Biden because of the whole not being riddled by age thing. But she's still preparing diligently. Perhaps two diligently.

Sources who are familiar with how Vice President Harris is preparing for the debate tell me she is diligently getting ready for this by going to a hotel in Pittsburgh spending hours doing mock debates, including with an aide who is dressing like former President Donald Trump.

I'm sorry, you're you're having a guide dressed like Donald Trump. Is that something the campaign thinks she needs to prepare for now, Madam Vice President, he might come out we're in a tie that's slightly longer than usual.

Don't freak out. We trained for this.

Meanwhile, Trump is preparing for the debate a little differently.

All the report indicates that he's taking this easy, taking this casually.

He doesn't have debate prep, so to speak. He has what they call policy.

Time, just to refresh his memory about what he might say on stage.

Oh, they're giving him policy time, such an important part of childhood developments. You can do it, Donald, two more minutes of policy time, and then you can watch three paw patrols.

But you know what, it's good to know that Trump is.

Getting into the nitty gritty of policy because you want a president who's up to speed on the nuances of the issues. It isn't just pulling stuff out of his ass.

Kamala support states being able to take minor children and perform sex change operation. Can you imagine you're a parent and your son leaves the house and you say, Jimmy, I love you so much, go have a good day in school, and your son comes back with a brutal operation.

Can you even imagine this?

No? No, no, I can't imagine this because it's an insane thing you just made up.

Do you do you really?

Do you really think a kid goes to school one day and comes back with a full sex change operation. That's ridiculous. Americans getting free health.

Care not happening.

No, fuck, no, Donald, Donald, Donald, do you think it's even remotely a possibility? Apart from everything else. One time in middle school, I told the nurse I had a stomach ache, and she put a band aid on my stomach.

Mass sex changes.

Apparently, some people would say that Donald Trump's biggest challenge at the debate tomorrow so that he can't open his mouth without rambling incoherently. But if you ask Trump about this, he says, no, No, I ramble very coherently, and I.

Look forward to the debate with her.

You know, I do the weave.

You know what the weave is. I'll talk about like nine different things that they all come back brilliantly together, and it's like and friends of mine that are like English professors, they say it's the most brilliant thing I've ever seen.

Oh, yes, the weave. I thought your brain was broken, But now that you did those hand motion things, I see it's a tactic. I mean, all your English professor friends are impressed. Which professor is that? Is that Professor Hogan or doctor Rock? I mean, forget English professors. Trump's

It's gonna be tough. Remember Donald Trump grew up in Queen's so he's a street fighter like Ken and Ryu. Remember that the fireball Odakin. That reminds me My first sex dream was about Blanca from Street Fighter Too. We were on a Disney cruise.

Ship for some reason. One thing people don't.

Know is they have jails on cruise ships because if you rob someone, they have to put you somewhere. But the jails are too small to hold more than two people at a time, so you just have criminals roaming the halls of our cruise ships. Just like our Democrat cities under Nancy Pelosi.

Back to you, Jordan, woohoo, whoa whoa, whoa, whoa, whoa, Grace, Grace, what the hell have you been talking about?

Oh my god, Jordan, I'm doing the weave.

See.

Okay, it's a master level talking mechanism, and it's why you just lost this debate.

This is not a debate. I asked you for information and you responded with incoherent rambling.

Boy, you sound just like my high school teachers. But thanks to Donald Trump, we now know that we can rebrand our character flaws into something we're flattering. I'm not bad with money, I'm fiscally promiscuous, sexy right.

I didn't wet the bed.

I'm a sheet durability analyst, sexy right. And I definitely did not fall into a pothole this morning because I was watching tiktoks about Japanese toilets. I'm the key plaintiff in a class action lawsuit chit ching.

Okay, look, look, I get that rebranding in your flaws makes them sound fancier, but everyone still knows you're fiscally irresponsible, Bedwether.

But America has been rebranding since the beginning, Christopher Columbus thought he landed in India, but when he found out he wasn't, he rebranded it to America. And tomorrow, Kamala Harris will need to rebrand the Biden administration. You need to convince us Democrats that we won't wet the bed anymore, but we'll fill the potholes of America, the America we dream about. Well, we're having sex with Blanca on that cruise ship, and that's how she'll win the debate.

Wait, Grace, did you just weave everything back into the topic sexy?

Right?

Great school, everyone, we'll come back.

We'll be the most important person in this election to stick around. Well about to the Daily Show? I think I speak for all of us when I say that my favorite part of election season is all the emails I get from candidates asking for money. But do you ever wonder who's really writing all those great emails? Well, we have The Daily Show found out you're justin.

Have you seen the latest polls? We need you to send five dollars now to defend democracy?

And sent nailed it?

Yes?

Who am? I? I go by many names, Kamala Harris, Robert de Niro parentheses via Kamala Harris dot com and parentheses smart Kelly, but my real name Susan Calipenny McIntyre, and I write fundraising emails for political campaigns. I never thought that this is what I'd be doing for a living, but all my life people have told me you have the personality for this. Is there anything I can do to convince you? I need these glasses before midnight. I'm

This could be historic. I need your help.

I was scouted at a young age after I sent a letter to new kids on the block saying that the very fate of the world depended on all of them marrying me.

How silly.

Only one of them did, But the letter caught the attention of a gubernatorial campaign and launched my political career. What I do is a highly specialized skill. Obviously, during a presidential election year, I'm crazy busy. I usually write between four to six emails a week, four to six hundred million million. Yeah, I burned through a lot at keyboards. Funny story, I have no feeling in my fingertips anymore.

Check this out.

Nothing in democracy. The hours are crazy. Oh words, Can I count on you before midnight?

Can I?

Okay? Love you too? Moms.

The first emails go out at five am. The last batch goes out five minutes before midnight. Sometimes this job gets in the way of my personal relationships. Hey, sorry, kiddo, working late again. Hey, brush your teeth or they'll crumble like our Senate majority if we don't raise ten thousand dollars with the FEC filing deadline. Love you okay, battery die. But when I'm home, I leave work at the door.

It's over.

What if we don't rush to get these dishes done, we'll miss the beginning of Blue Bloods.

Jesus, you don't have to be so dramatic.

Fine, I'll just get my tubes tied.

I don't talk to her anymore.

I once lent her five dollars for lunch, and she's called me every day for three years.

I can't escape her.

The work is the work, and I am the work. The work is me. I am the work. But more importantly, I'm making a difference. Send Send, Send, Send, we come back.

You've all know a hurrah. We'll be joining me on the shows.

We'll go away.

Welcome back to the Daily Show.

My guest Tonight is an historian and a New York Times bestselling author whose latest book is called Nexus, A Brief History of Information Networks from the Stone Age to AI. Please welcome, you've all Noah Harari. You are a popular writer. Your books have sold over forty five million copies.

Whoo.

The Atlantic referred to some of your writing style as since the Dawn of Time style books.

You go way back and.

You bring us into the future. These are big important tones simultaneously. I heard you meditate for two hours every single day. Yes, how do you make all this happen?

I don't have kids.

You don't have kids.

What have I done? Why don't you write a pamphlets that says just that you want to get shipped done? Don't have kids.

Some people manage to do both, you know, but you.

Have time to dive into this. I'm curious. This book is about information. Yeah, and you reject the notion that more information is a good thing, that it leads to truth and wisdom. Is this you being jaded by the Trump administration and the time we're in or does this thought process go back?

You know, it's basically like thinking that more food is always good for you. You know, there is a limit to how much food the body needs, and in a similar way, there is a limit to how much food for the full food for the mind the mind needs, which is information. And the same way that most there is so much junk food outer, there is also so much junk information ou there, and we basically need to go on an information diet.

Yes, but I need my sweet sweet Twitter snacks.

I need it.

I need it.

It's exactly that. The same way that over the last few generations they learned the industries learned how to produce artificial food, which is pumped full of fat and sugar and salt and is addictive and not good for us, they've also learned how to manufacture this artificial information, which is pumped full of greed and hate and fear and is addictive to our mind and isn't good for it.

Now, I totally agree, and I feel stuffed on all of it. But we also have this feeling that when you step outside of this information mainstream, that's just that this pipeline of bs that is out there that you certainly step out of the conversation. It feels like we don't have the luxury of going on a diet if we want to be part of the conversation around.

Us, because the conversation is increasingly managed not by human beings but by algorithms, and algorithms function in a completely different way than us. They are not organic. For instance, human beings, as organic animals, we run by cycles. Sometimes we need to be very active, sometimes we need to rest. But algorithms never rest. They are tireless, and they expect us to be the same. So we now live in this news cycle which never rests. And the same thing

Yeah, that's what happened to us next dage Yeah yeah, yeah, yeah yeah.

But excited excited doesn't mean happy. Excited means that all your nervous system and your brain is like fuzzing. It's on, and it's good to be excited sometime, but if you keep an organic being, an animal excited all the time, it eventually collapses and dies.

So you're saying beforehand, I should have said to meet you, I'm relaxed to meet you. I apologize, I'm dead inside. But that's not your problem.

But thing, for instance, about the election cycles and US politics, wouldn't it be better if it was a bit more boring.

I would love it if it were boring. I would love it if it were boring. And we see what happens in Europe where it's shorter, it's boring. But everything, everything is pulling us to maximalize, right, the idea that the fact that if we had a new cycle that could end on Friday and we pick it back up on Monday would be fantastic. But it doesn't seem like the algorithms, doesn't seem like the financial benefits are pushing us in that direction at all. Where do you see a path like that going.

If you keep kind of increasing the pace all the time, we can't handle it, So the algorithms can, so they take over. But it's not good news for humanity. We need to slow down, basically. And you know, we are facing now these non organic entities which work and think in a completely different way from us. And the question is who is going to adapt?

To whom you're pointing at AI? Now? Is AI? Do you see it as an existential threat? Like I've seen some of these shrimp jesuses and I don't like it, these weird images that pop up online. But I don't necessarily connect that with the end of conversation.

I think the most important thing to understand about AI is that AI is not a tool. It is an agent. It's the first technology in history that can make the decisions and invent new ideas by itself, Even something as powerful as the atom bomb could not decide anything by itself. All the decisions were made by humans. Now we've created something which potentially can take power away from us at present.

It's tough, Yeah, is that a street line? Is that a bicycle? Will?

I know?

Let me do it again?

Refresh and it's it's really difficult for GPT four. GPT four could not solve the capture. But what sheputy four did it access task Rabbit, which is an online site where you can hire humans to do different things for you, and it asked a human to solve the copture for it. Now the human got suspicious. The human ask, why do you need somebody to solve capture for you. Are you a robot? It asked directly, are you a robot? And

To the fully to the truly evolved human is not somebody who's smarter. It's just somebody who gets somebody else to do the work for them.

Smart.

Yeah, scary, very scary.

It's scary. You talk a little bit about Uh, there's a portionary. You talk about the artist's role in the community of whether it's comedy or writers or filmmakers. People talk about is AI coming for our jobs? Part of what you're articulate right here is that it's an artist's job to sort of paint these fears, let us understand the dynamics of human interaction. You break things down into

That's the problem. We are very good at articulating mythology. We love mythological stories, and mythology is very important, but ultimately, our world, the modern world, is built on bureaucracies. And this is also where AI fits into the picture, because we are now going to see millions and millions of AI bureaucrats. The kind of existential threat we are facing is not this Hollywood scenario of a single computer trying

Let's say about the budget, like I'm a twelve part series right now? Is well, I think about it. I think of like movies like The Big Short. For every the Big Short, you have a thousand Marvel movies exactly live in the world of mythology.

Yeah, so superheroes, this is mythology. This is no how not how the budget works. You don't have a super accountant fighting against I don't know what.

Yeah, we can workshops, yeah, but you know what shapes your life is these accountants with the budgets far more than the superheroes.

And it's really a challenge to do a good TV series about the budget, and even if we try, it will end up again like a love story between somebody in accounts and somebody in another department, and the budget will be pushed to the side. But we need to really understand how these things work.

I think what I love about a lot of your work is it does explore the stories that we tell and how important that is to just humankind and the way that we create societies and build off one another's and the danger of not telling those stories or not

I think the number one question to ask to the Superbergs and the Elune Masks of the world and Softie.

You have their number, I text them right now.

So if you have the number of this is the question, how is it that we have the most sophisticated information technology in history and we can no longer hold the conversation, We can no longer talk with each other. That's the big question. And you see it in democracies all over the world. You see it here in the US, you see it in my home country in Israel, you see it in Brazil, in the Philippines, in France. The conversation is breaking down. So what is happening this extremely sophisticated

It one hundred percent. I talk to older people on the road who go to people at rallies, at Marga rallies who will go to Facebook as a place to converse with friends. And frankly, if you're in your sixties, that's the place to talk to friends, to connect. But in order to be a person on Facebook, not enough for you just to converse with the friends you have there. You have to publish news sources to get people to

Traditionally, and we've been in this place every time a new information technology was invented, we faced the same difficulties. For instance, when the printing revolution swept Europe in the early modern period. It did not lead directly, as many people think, to the scientific Revolution. The best sellers of the early print era were not Scoopernicus and Galileo, Galilee and Newton. Hardly anybody read those books. The big best sellers were religious tracts and were witch hunting manuals. The

I gotta say, I'm writing a Hammer of the Witches that sounds good. Hammer of the Witch is also my favorite led Zeppelin album.

For instance, if you want to really understand, like Qannon today, it's basically the same story. There is a conspiracy of Satan worshiping witches. That is trying to destroy the world, and good Christians need the ability to identify and destroy these witches. It's not a new thing on Facebook or Twitter. It goes back to the print revolution in the fifteenth and sixteenth century.

Are there any examples looking back at history though, where we face these technological watershed moments where we are given new techno and that humanity has decided to revert and say no to it and move beyond it. It feels like a foregone conclusion that we are heading into this Ai revolution and we're not writing the rules. A couple of rich folks Intelicon Valley are.

You can't go back in history, That's impossible. But the answer is always the same. You need institutions. You know, institutions. They are not heroic, they are not superheroes. They don't they are not kind of the main theme of Marvel movies.

So as long as as newspapers stay strong as a business model, perhaps v HS machines can get in there too and fight the good fight. You know, you actually you. You signed a book for me backstage, and one of the comments you made with in it was to not lose hope. Help me, help me do that. Where where do you where do you see those little those little glimmers of hope when you look at this this uncertain and perhaps scary future that we're walking into.

You know, I think that AI is nowhere near its full potential, But humans also, we are nowhere near our full potential. If we if for every dollar and every minute that we invest in developing artificial intelligence, we also invest in exploring and developing our own minds, we will be okay. But if we put on our bets on the technology on the AIS and neglect to develop ourselves, this is very bad news for you. Monity.

All right, So I'm gonna get that gym membership and I'm gonna cut out. I'm gonna cut out. The Swedes Nexus is available. Now you've all Noah harrara, I'm gonna take.

A quick break, all right back after that.

That's our sol for tonight, but he sat to tune tomorrow when John Stewart hosts our live debate coverage on a Love It PI.

Kamala Harris, the Vice President, has been in a hotel for a few days, really hunkering down and trying to prep to get ready to take on Donald Trump on the debate stage on Tuesday.

She basically said, it's.

Like cramming for finals right where you can't wait to get out, and the getting out part was the best part.

Watch being at the spice store.

I finally got debate prep to look at these spices best part to make Fred so far.

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