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Pulse at the world's largest gun show. And Charlie Crockett is here tonight, So let's get in the headlines. Let's start with some breaking news. Apparently widespread line and deceit may have some consequences.
And we are back with our breaking news coverage. Just as opening statements were set to begin in what was going to be a historic trial Dominion Voting Systems suing Fox for defamation, lawyers on both sides reached a settlement, and absolutely enormous settlement. A lawyer for Dominion announced that Fox would be paying Dominion seven hundred and eighty seven million, five hundred thousand dollars.
Wow.
Wow, seven hundred and eighty seven million dollars. That is a ton of money, and Fox was already strapped for cash. Tucker Carlson can only afford one facial expression. Look, I'm glad there's some accountability here, but still I'm pretty disappointed. We're not going to get a trial because all the Fox anchors would have been forced to testify. It would have been like the Seinfeld Final, but instead of instead of soup Nazis, it's just.
Nazi. Since Box is gonna have to.
Pay nearly a billion dollars, they'll need to implement cost cutting measures. Sadly, they have to fire Brian kill Mead's reading tutor, Janine Piro, has to switch to.
The cheap box of wine. Uh.
Development on a third Doocey has been halted. They're gonna have to switch from Jesse Waters to Tap Waters. And of course they're gonna have to put down Sean Hannity.
Let's move on. You gotta smell that. You smell what I'm smelling.
That combination of Jim sweat and old spice and unearned confidence feels like there's a lot of alpha male energy going on politics right now. Everywhere you look in the news, there's an alpha male whipping his pecker out. Market is territory punching walls instead of crying. Real tough guys, guys like Ron. These boots are made for walking to Santis, who's it was down in Florida waging war on a cartoon mouse this morning.
The ongoing feud between Florida Governor Ron De Santis and Disney is intensifying. DeSantis now floating the idea of the state developing land next to Disney World.
Come to think of it, now, people are like, well, there's what should we do with this land? Maybe try to do more amusement parks. Someone even said like, maybe you need another state prison.
Who knows.
I mean, I just think that the possibilities are are endless.
Okay, a state prison next to Disney World. Can you imagine what poor Walt Disney would say if he saw this. I mean, first, he'd have a lot to say about all the Jews and black people allowed in the park, But after he sorted all that out, he'd be very upset. This may sound like a petty move. I want to be dictator, but there is a prison next to Disney World, an inherently bad idea. I say no, as long as they lock up strictly those Disney adults were going to be totally fine.
You know, I know you're.
Trying to make adulthood feel like childhood, but guess what, there's nothing for you past thirty. But it wasn't the only Alpha male on the Alpha Palooza main stage yesterday. It was also Jim Jordan. The last month, a lot of Jordan fans here. That's about Jim Jordan's bro Donald Trump was indicted by Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg for no reason besides committing crimes. But Jim Jordan wasn't gonna
let that stand. That's why yesterday he went after Alvin Bragg in Bragg's own backyard right here in Manhattan.
The House Judiciary Committee held a rare field hearing in New York build as an examination of crime in Manhattan.
Ohio Congressman Jim Jordan rallied against Manhattan District Attorney Alvin Bragg.
The policies being implemented by this district attorney are going to ruin this great city. You know, I'm surprised, one that he admits New York is a great city. Never thought i'd hear that, And two that he actually held a hearing on crime. I was pretty sure ignoring crimes was Jim Jordan's whole thing.
Considering the murder rates.
Collap for ignoring sexual abuse allegations, I appreciate it. Considering the murder rate is much higher in Columbus, Ohio, which is in Jim Jordan's neck of the woods. Maybe he should have been holding crime hearings there. But even people from Ohio don't want to spend time in Ohio. And I can say that because I'm from Michigan and Ohio is our New Jersey. But there's still an another guy out there who might be the most alpha male ever.
He's summited at Everest. He's the real life inspiration for John Wick and the current featherweight champion.
Of the world. George Santos.
Now, he just started his first term in Congress and absolutely no one wants him to run again. His constituents are embarrassed by him. Republicans want him to go away. Even the Dali Lama said he wouldn't suck his tongue with a ten foot pain, which means there's only one thing a real alpha male would do.
A metaled Republican and New York Congressman George Santos going back on his word that he wouldn't run for reelection. Instead, he launched his campaign for reelection on his one hundredth day in office.
It's a beautiful day here in Washington, d C.
It's a great day to be an American. It's a great day to be here a Republican, and it's a great date to a Now it's reelection.
Santos is under local, state, federal, and internet national investigation.
Say what you want about Santos, but it's uber alpha to run for reelection when you're as unpopular as he is. He's so unpopular his campaign had to refund more donation than it's taken in true, which means he's technically raised negative three thousand dollars.
You gotta give it to George Santos.
He's the only elected official who's effectively taken money out of politics. All right, So who is today's reigning alpha male? To help me decide, please welcome Desi Leidak.
Desi Dessie.
Which of these men do you think is the top Alpha?
Well, not to out Alphay Jordan, but none of them. These are all a bunch of beta bitches. Ron DeSantis, he's losing a fight with the happiest place on Earth. I haven't seen Disney trumple a leader like this since Mufasa and Jim Jordan flew all the way to New York just to talk about how scared he is of New York. Relax, Jim, go see that Michael Jackson Broadway show.
It also ignores abuse allegations. You love it.
Hold on, Desie, hold on. There has to be an alpha.
Oh, I've got an alpha for you.
Today's top alpha male is my girl, Senator Dianne Feinstein.
And I'll tell you.
Why roll it.
The California Democrat Senator Dianne Feinstein hasn't cast a vote since February because she's still recovering from shingles. Her absence is holding up President Biden's judicial nominee. Some Democrats called for her resignation.
She's eighty nine years old. She's been away from Capitol Hill for seven weeks.
Senior Senator from California issued this statement, quote, I I mean committed to the job and will continue to work from home in San Francisco.
Yeah, check out the truck nuts on die That right, there is an alpha.
Okay, I don't get it.
Diane Feinstein can't perform her duties on the Judiciary Committee and is refusing to resign.
What is what is alpha about that? Well?
Thinking that no one else could do your job as good as you, even though you're barely doing your job.
That is pure alpha male. That's some logan roy shit.
No spoilers, no spoilers.
Okay, all right, but I'm giving you one more day and then I spoil it.
Okay, fine, fine, Look, let's say this is a power move by Dianne Feinstein. But there is more to being an alpha male than just not giving up your job.
No, no, no, no, Jordan Is. It's not a job, it's a seat.
She is in California right now, holding down a seat in Washington, DC. This is the widest case of man spreading in human history.
Okay, fair, fair, But man spreading doesn't make her alpha.
It makes her a standard male.
Oh well, she's not just man spreading her seat.
She's also stopping twelve federal judges from taking their seats. It could rule in favor for women's rights, and preventing women.
From having rights is classic alpha Now yes, now I see it, now, yes, I'm seeing it. Okay, I see it.
Its hot dog Diane is ripping a page out of the Old Boy playbook, grinding it up and snorting it right off a hooker's ass.
I salute you, Diane.
We salute you, Alpha Diane deasyliik everyone, all right, we'll come back.
We'll take a look at the haunt new way.
Your kids can kill you, but I'll go away. Hello, Welcome back to the Daily Show. With all the guns in America. You might think that everyone who wants a gun has a gun. So what is the gun industry doing to try to keep selling more product? I went to the world's largest gun show to find out, and another edition of Fingers the Pulse. America land of the free and home to an astronomical amount of mass shootings. So I went to the world's largest gun show in Tulsa,
Oklahoma to investigate our unique obsession with guns. The bounty was plentiful, small guns, big guns, kamal eclipse katanas for some reason, and more Nazis wag than Harlan Crowe's guest pathrow eleven acres of guns.
Seems weird to use acreage as a measurement of guns, but this is America, Berry, Why are you here today?
America America.
You're here because America dot dot dot Yes guns. I feel like that's an American haiku. Little ee Cummings over here, what are you looking forward to?
Relaxation and be enabled?
Look guns free?
That's relaxing to you.
It's sort of like your bond's eye tree is looking at an array of guns makes you zen.
It might feel better.
And this guy might as well have been at a meditation retreat because they were selling guns everywhere, including the parking lot. You're gonna hopefully sell that inside, so gena license? Can you just kind of go into the gun show and.
You've tried to find some wants to buy it, or you find what you want.
To buy it, and then if somebody is like, I'm interested, I'll buy it, then what.
Do you do?
First of all, you kind of like look them over?
Is that what a background check? Is?
Here?
Been Tulsa. I mean, this isn't where people are going to come to maliciously get guns. Mostly why not?
I guess if I was like I need to get a gun quick to do bad shit, this is actually.
Exactly where I would come.
How much is that going for? What if I came up there and was like I don't know. I've had a little bit of a rough day. My wife just broke up with me. I'm a feeling a little on edge. How much for your gun?
Well, yeah, I ain't gonna say it. Somebody looks stupid, you.
Know, or it looks like he's like crazy as shit.
You know what if I say the words of somebody who's crazy as shit, but I look composed like I do right now.
I'd probably sell it to you.
Well, this selection of.
Firearms was diverse. These days, there's only one real star of the gun show.
What are you hoping to say? A couple AR fifteen's, maybe some tactical ones.
I just want to add to it, make it more taxical, and make it have some lasers or something.
Why is the AR fifteen such a good gun?
It's just cool.
A lot of people use them for day to day there's a lot of day to day AR fifteen ship.
I have AR style, but I use that for hog hunting, pog hunting pog.
I got one set up for hog hunting.
Squirrels, deer, wild hogs. You're killing wild hogs too. We have had him threaten us, but they've been threatened by pigs. My dad has. Why do you think the AR fifteen is seen as scary because it looks like a military weapon.
Do you think it's scary because it kills a lot of children?
The weapon self doesn't kill the children, it's the person wielding the weapon.
Why do they tend to use that weapon in particular because in media it's it's portrayed that way.
Well, no, but in schools it happens that way. Was I misunderstanding this? If AR fifteens aren't the real threat in America?
What is? Look up bicycle accidents? Look up trampoline.
Accidents, coyotes, bears, acid attacks, acid attacks?
Are there mass asset attacks? I want say mass, but they do happen.
I don't beieve there are more murders committed in this country every year with hammers, baseball bats, and other bluff Ford objects than any handgun, rifle, shotgun combined.
Well, that's statistic, can't be correct.
Automobile accidents, falls, poisoned, heavy books, two by boys, a statue sitting on your table.
Right, it seems like, yeah, we should, we should, we should be looking at all murder weapons from the game of Clue and then get to the other lower level one play the AR fifteen. The more I talk to these, the more I wondered if all of this tactical shit has always been a part of gun culture.
That's a new thing. That's new. That's a new thing.
I went to Montana to talk to Ryan Bussy, who spent twenty five years in the gun industry but now advocates for a gun.
Safety I'm deeply troubled by the firearms culture that's emerged in and around guns in our country now. It mirrors much of our political radicalization on transformation as a country. The industry itself, prior to about two thousand and five or two thousand and six, would not allow any kind of tactical gear, hardly any AR fifteens, no bulletproof vests, no helmets, and its own trade shows. It seemed like the industry understood that propagating that kind of thing would lead to very bad shit.
We bring an AR fifteen to a gun show in two thousand and nine, and you're a weirdo, yeap, just.
Two thousand and eight and two thousand and nine is when the weirdo stuff starts wearing off.
But yeah, you're a weirdo.
Then now it's commonplace now it's ubiquitous, but there's used to be weirdos to be weirdness.
Yeah, and AR.
I know a lot of liberals think AR stands for a soult rifle, and the wrong it stands for are you looking at my small penis?
Is that right?
It stands for ARMELTT Rifle, which was the first company that developed.
It, armor light rifle. Yes.
Yes, Liberals see the AR fifteen and tend to think it's a weapon of war. And it feels like I go to a gun show and people say it's for hunting, it's for sports.
Who's rights?
You just all you have to do is look at the industry's own marketing. The industry sells it as an offensive weapon of war.
They're turning to market towards kids, right, Yeah, So.
You know guns have long been marketed to kids, target guns, trying to get kids involved in the shooting sports and in hunting. But what's different now is that's being marketed to kids through things like the JR fifteen, the Junior fifteen, not the AR fifteen. The Junior fifteen it's a shrunken down kids version of an AR fifteen.
Yeah, a JR fifteen? Is that so little? Kids? Can stand up to government overreach.
If you're worried about try grooming.
Here's your child grooming.
This is how gun manufacturers are reaching out to the public.
Here you got the marketing for the JR.
Fifteen to little kids.
Check that out.
Great.
So we have pacifiers and a skull tactical pascifire tactical pacifier.
Cute. Yeah, my two and a half year old would be drawn to that.
This as a magazine cover, you have the vicious skateboard attacker and the glorious father defending his terribly afflicted family.
Was that one in case Tony Hawk goes crazy? Yeah, honey, you get the sword Tony Hawk's here.
So this is Mike's tactical ad.
It was a twenty eighteen huge ad at the Industry trade show. Guys in jeans, T shirts, backwards ball cap AR fifteen staring down the protesters. Here you have Kyle Rittenhouse jeans backwards ball cap T shirt AR fifteen shooting the protesters.
This is two years apart, two years apart the marketing works.
I don't know how if you can't draw a direct line between those two things, I can't help you.
What are steps we can take to limit the number of mass shootings with weapons like the AAR fifteen.
I think, like our politics, a lot of this is about voluntary social norms. Yes, legislation needs to be instituted to help reinforce some of these norms. But some of this is going to be on us.
That's right, It is on us.
So it shouldn't be too hard for all of us to come together and agree on what weapons should and should not be owned by the average civilian.
Should should we be able to buy tanks? You bet you? Yeah, you bet you? If tanks are okay? Should we each be able to have apache helicopter? There should be a line of the things that are available. Well, maybe we shouldn't go around with nuclear bomb strapped. That's the line. But but you don't have to. But you don't have to. We had new pit about we were agreeing. Looks like we've still got some figuring out to do. I an aer a company, they too. Because when we come.
Back, Tony Crocker will be joining me on the show. Do'll go.
Welcome back to the Daily Show.
My guest tonight is a critically a clay musician whose new album The Man from Waco Reducts will be out on May twenty six.
Please welcome Charlie Crockett. Charlie Crooking, Welcome to the job.
I've been a big fan for quite some time. You look great, by the way I feel, I feel like I dressed down. You got a cool ass. Hates it being a cool musician. Is it ever exhausting to have to always look impressive? Do you ever want to just Adam sand Looret and just go cargo shorts? Well, my girl probably wishes I did that more often.
You know.
You are.
You have an amazing story.
I feel like your life is eleven country songs fit into one life right, and part of that story includes New York City. I know you came from Texas, spent some time in New Orleans, but sometime busking in New.
York City subways? Is that correct? You've got it. I apologize if I ever ignored you.
My bad.
If I could go back in time, I'd fix that.
But tell me what that going from that experience to what you do now on the road interacting with the audiences.
What do you learn in a New York City subway?
Well, I looked a little different back then, so I don't think you would have recognized me as the same man.
Yeah, I was definitely younger.
And actually the first time I ever played in the city, it is about fifteen years back.
In Central Park.
I had hitchhiked up here and I knew a guy from South Florida who these Brazilian guys actually that I grew up with a little bit in Texas, and one of them had moved to Florida and he had a buddy that was like up here working somewhere. He lived in Spanish Carlem and I hitchicked into town and they offered me a place, him and his lady. They offered me a place on their couch, and they gave me like a week. And so I just started wandering down
around Manhattan and found myself in Central Park there. And I'll spare you all the drama and trials and tribulations of those fifteen years. But oh good, that's not good for TV. Yeah, and so, but back in September, the first bridge I ever played underneath in Central Park, I played about one hundred yards from it, just back this last September, opening up for Willie Nelson. So I felt pretty good.
I feel like there's a motif and a lot of your work about journey, and I think a lot of your songs are about getting from point A to point B. I think your life seems to have been sort of a journey around different parts in America. It's hard to even categorize some of your music. Would you call it folk Americana country?
Well, you know, I definitely learned how to stand behind my guitar and playing on street corners, working farm parties, farm parties.
Yeah, I don't even know what those are. Yeah I do. I Yeah, it's a hodown.
It's a holdown at a farm. Yeah, I guess I could have put it together. There's context clues there.
Yeah.
Well, I ended up doing a lot of I ended up doing a lot of physical labor, like in rural areas, especially in the Pacific Northwest. It's kind of where I learned a hitchhike was it was easier to get picked up on the highway. People are more likely, I guess, to make bad decisions and pick up hitchhikers out there. And the people that embraced me, to be really honest with you, it was back when you know, ganja was still completely illegal, and I found my way onto those kind of farms.
You know, that's what they meant by big rock Candy Mountain. Is that what that was about. That's what they were talking about.
Oh, you're you're destroying all my country illusions. Next thing you're gonna tell me Willie Nelson is a pot smoke.
Don't listen to Waylon Jennings. Okay, I won't get into whitland.
A lot of your music, it almost feels like you're writing songs up against the clock.
Is that fair to say?
Yeah?
You know, people ask me what my songs are about and usually tell them the same thing, you know, two or.
Three minutes, but then you don't fill them in whatsoever. Yeah, God damn it.
But these people who don't know how to make heart, they just comment, and I really need you fill in those holes. On this album, you reference a songwriting credit with another man who came to New York, slept on some couches, found his way in the folks scene back in the sixties. Robert Zimmerman ak Bob Dylan. How does Bob Dylan find his way on your album?
Well know, I called Bob up and told him I wanted to finish his song, and uh he uh no, I never.
I've never met him before, that guy not known for taking many phone calls. No, no, he definitely ain't picking up the phone to me.
But uh, actually what had happened was is I was listening to these tapes of his They're called the Pacas Blues Tapes, and it was from he he scored an old Sam Peckinpah movie back in the early seventies called Pat Garrett and Billy the Kid, and he said it was I think it's the only movie you ever kind of scored start to finish. And actually you can listen
into those audio tapes there. It's like a half of it was done in Durrango, Mexico and the rest maybe in La You can hear like after he's done with one of the songs, you're like, this is the last movie I ever worked on, you whatever? And uh and anyways, I was listening to those and I heard this song that was about Billy the Kid, Billy the Kid's life,
you know. And uh, there's a highway in between Austin and northern New Mexico that I've hitchhiked down, walked down during my truck down, been on my bus, you know, driving up and down for many years where they supposedly bid the kid is buried, you know, and I think he was dead by the time he was twenty one or twenty two. You know, in america's always been really fascinated with him. And i'd heard that Bob, you know, was fascinated by him, and the story was just really speaking to me.
You know.
It's like, and I'd written, I'd come up with a verse to add to the song, which it's ridiculous to think you can add anything to Dylan's music, but this was a song that he didn't finish. It was like a verse and a half and he never finished it. And even on the record, they're like, what's this song going to be called? Bobby, He's like, oh, this, this one's a Tom Turkey Tom Turkey number two, you know, strange title, but like Tom Turkey's kind of like a
straw man or like a mark man. I think in the Old West is kind of what that would be. And I just came up with this line because I was thinking about it. Was people around here like to talk about you, and I hope you liked the legend you've become. I heard it said in Truth or Consequences, you couldn't be a day past twenty one.
And I liked that line, and I think I think Bob liked it.
Too, because it's like you get you get enough into the public eye, you know, and you can start feeling like the kid, you know, even if you ain't never you know, held a gun in your life, you know.
And I feel a lot like Bellieve the kid all the time. You know, I was afraid I would die early like Billy Get the kid. It was a smoker, right, Is that what got.
Him in the end?
My history, my history is smoking guns, smoking guns. This the song you're gonna perform for us today. It feels like it's somewhat of a I know, I won't ask you to have to go into it because you're not gonna get me a straight answer, So I appreciate that, but a little bit of a uh. It looks at fame, and I I do think in like I said before, I know, something of your music is about journeys, getting to getting to different places.
And you've you've busted.
I know, you've got record contracts, you've left record contracts, you've found.
Your own way. How much of it for you is it about getting to some final place?
Is there is there a success for you that will will let you to forgive me, to hit your horse and say, gitty up, we're in forgive me.
I am not. You know, I'm going to backtrack. Though he's from Michigan, I'm from Michigan.
Is there is there is a success a landing spot or is it?
Is it a journey for you? I'm doing.
I've been doing this rambling piece that they've been working on in a Texas magazine for months. And actually when we were up here in New York with Willy not too far back, this journalist was up here with me and they'd interviewed everybody ever dealt with in uh the business for the most part.
And you know, my first record.
Deal I was discovered on the R train here in Manhattan by a big by the big part of the machine, you know, and uh so.
On a way not the subway. You're talking about the music machine. Yeah, okay, okay, okay, okay, good, you know.
The machine imalking about? I know, okay, the machine, yes, and the big dogs and so in a way, I guess I did beat the game. But you know, the deal that I dreamt of, Like you've heard many times before, it never is what you want it to be. And so anyway, they're doing this big piece on me now, and people know I've been doing a long time. I've got, you know, thirteen fourteen records. You know, I've made a
habit of telling record executives to you know, kiss my behind. Actually, the last time I met up with one here in New York City, he asked me if i'd ever been here before.
You know, I'm thirty nine years old.
I've been here hundreds of times, played on the street here for five years, you know. But I felt like he didn't you know, I think he knew I've been here. You know, he's just messing with me. But this journalist was saying that. A couple of my old managers, they said, you know, they say, Charlie Man, they all said that you had a plan. They knew where you were going. You know, you knew you were going, You had this grand scheme. But I never, I never did.
You know.
The reason that I started playing uh in public and on street corners in the first place was this was a career of last resort. Hard luck and circumstances put me on street corners. I wouldn't I wouldn't be in this business. If I'd had an easy way and so there was no grand scheme to beat the game. The only the only thing I ever wanted to do is keep was keep playing, You know, was was? You know,
I'm not a cowboy. I'm a cowboy singer, and I just want to keep singing my cowboy songs and they might sound a little different than some of the old boys.
And you're here with us today the night from Waco. Readunts will be Out. I made twenty six.
Every day.
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