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John Stewart.

Hello, Welcome to The Daily Show, minors. John Sir, the second presidential debate has just wrapped up. We are live, well technically technically, I guess this is the second president the first presidential debate of this matchup. I can't wait to see who the winner will take on next.

I think we'll come to your live ladies and gentlemen.

The stakes couldn't be higher as we all try and figure out who will be the next president of Paul winev.

MIAs Gang.

It's an exciting night for citizens of that esteemed nation as the rest of us watch with great interest from the neighboring country of no.

One gives a shit A stand.

By the way, if you have any friends in Paul and Nevas, can you see if they can do anything about congestion pricing? All right, I forget it, but so far it seems like this presidential race is going to be a tight one.

The election now a.

Dead heat, separated by razor thin margins neck and.

Neck, feels like a jump all race right now.

For all intensive purposes, horseshoes and anger and ades.

It's a it's a coin flap, the tightest race in a generation.

As tight as it can get, tight as a.

Tick, as tight as a two tight bathing suit and a too long car ride home from the beach that seems very tight.

It's as tight as a teenage boys pants during a Sydney Sweeney film festival. Oh no, it's tighter than Sydney's Sweeney's scheduling windows, given how busy she is with projects in demand as a producer, to say nothing of the anyway,

I am no longer a Democrat. I am no longer a member of the Democratic Party.

This was not my party. I just felt appalled.

When I watched the Democratic National Convention.

I can't associate myself with the party itself.

No, wait, don't go oh, you're no longer the Democratic Party, Alan Derschwitz, who guess what?

Democrats don't want you anyway because the Democratic Party has standards.

Okay, wait, don'tast week.

Former Vice President Dick Cheney endorsed Vice President Harris.

Would you excuse me?

What's I don't know what came over me anyway going into the debate, one thing was I'm sorry, you know what, Dick Cheney?

Can you meet me over by camera? One?

Fuck off, sharenside, fuck off? You game this close to destroying the entire world. We were this close closer than a teenage boy's pants.

And no, I'm not gonna have any fun with this. And by the way, who in God's name is that endorsement? Gonna? Sway?

Well, I like the Democrats policy on child tax credits, but are they bombing enough Middle Eastern countries?

There's still some buildings standing. Someone should really do something.

I'm fine, it's fine. Seriously though, fuck that guy now? Obviously, oh please, but an aero dye takedown. Obviously, each candidate was going to have their goals and strategies for Kamala Harris, it was going to be quite a needle to thread.

She really wants to make sure that Americans know her backstory, walk away understanding her policy stances, to make sure she needles Donald Trump, gets him to lash out, expose the flaws that she sees in him, to states, calm, be ready.

For all attack. She's got like two minutes. Is there anything else?

There are some people who are worried that she might be over.

Prepared for really after doing all that, you know, Trump was encouraged to take a simpler approach. They expect some goading remarks from Harris.

They have stressed to him over and over again, do not respond if you're going to respond at all, to use facial expressions, not to actually go out there and say anything.

Kamala say everything. I say nothing.

But here's what you do, mister former president. If Kamala says something that surprises you, you just go. And if Kamala says something that makes you angry, you just go. And if Kamala says something that makes you feel sexy, time you go.

Oh yeah, So those were the goals.

Both candidates have now entered the arena Biden and Trump did not greet each other, and Kamala, Oh wait did you go?

She went for the handshake.

Ladies and gentlemen, what an incredible display of the awkward tension happens when your son is dating a biracial girl and you meet her parents for the first time.

Do I I love you? Credit you are.

As per tradition in American politics, the first question is always asked by the most handsome person in a ten to fifteen mile radius.

When it comes to the economy, do you believe Americans are better off than they were four years ago?

Ooh?

First, Yausa, Hey, yeah, Second.

Answer the question, miss Vice President.

I imagine and have actually a plan to build what I call an opportunity economy. My plan is to give a fifty thousand dollars tax deduction to start up small businesses. I intend on extending a tax cut for those families of six thousand dollars.

Holy shit, we're one question in we're all millionaires.

Oh my god, Donald, your.

Response to the question, is the economy better now than it was four years ago?

We have millions of people pouring into our country from prisons and jails, from mental institutions and insane asylums. They're dangerous, they're at the highest level of criminality. They are taking over the towns, they're taking over buildings, they're going in violently.

Ladies and gentlemen.

I just want to say, after surviving the PTSD of the last presidential debate, how unbelievably refreshing it is to go back to the same old Nobody's going to answer any fucking questions.

This is unbelievable. We're back, America's back.

Yeah, that's gonna question.

They just turned the dime and answer whatever they want to answer.

And now that we're returning to the cliches the standards of American political theater, I think it's only fair if someone would do the honors of the first baseless at hominem.

She's a Marxist. Everybody knows she's a Marxist. Her father's a Marxist professor in economics, and he taught her well. But when you look at what she's done to our country.

Oh shit, she's about to be like, motherfucker, let's just do this.

I'm gonnaoo. She's about cup a Marxist.

She's about to open up a can of ass capital on Donald Trump. Lindsay Davis, you better change the subject before the fingers on Kamala's hand, unite.

I want to turn to the issue of abortion.

Oh boy, I'm not super s but this is where the wheels fell off for Biden. He was asked about abortion, then he somehow spun it into wire immigrants raping people, and he ended with the classic phrase, We'll never forget. And that's when we finally beat medicare. They're feeling it too, ladies and gentlemen. As before President Trump, you have the first crack at answering why you killed Rov Wade.

We've gotten what everybody wanted. Democrats, Republicans and everybody else, and every legal scholar wanted it to be brought back into the States, and the states are voting, and I did something that nobody thought was possible.

John Stewart from me, I was watching this live timespicking what you just said. Yeah, that's actually insanely false. The majority of people wanted it, you know what, Kamala Harris, Kamala Harris, can you address this with a bit more eloquence.

I have talked with women around our country. You want to talk about this. This is what people wanted pregnant women who want to carry a pregnancy to term, suffering from a miscarriage, being denied care in an emergency room because the healthcare providers are afraid they might go to jail. And she's bleeding out in a car in the parking lot.

She didn't want that.

Oh, she thrashed that this.

Is like this is like.

What this is like one of those crowdhog Day movies where you get to go back and fix the bad way that something happened earlier to the good way, and then you learn Italian and the piano, and then you get sad and then despondent, and then you learn how to love yourself.

Anyway.

Trump will now finally have to answer to his abortion policy.

You know what, it reminds me of when they said they're going to get student loans terminated and it ended up being a total catastrophe.

Ah, you don't have suside student loan smoke bomb. But we're settling into a rhythm here, nice back and forth. I got to give it to Trump. He's sticking to his guns and he's not letting Kamala Harris get under his skin. I actually think she's not going to be able to need a them.

I'm gonna invite you to attend one of Donald Trump's rallies. He will talk about win Mills cause cancer. And what you will also notice is that people start leaving his rallies early, out of exhaustion and boredom.

Old shit, He's just gonna start taking off his ears. I left DoD say, motherfucker, Lets go, folks. The eagle has landed.

She has attacked what is Donald Trump's most cherished family member, his rally crowds. Donald, Remember, the question is about why you killed the bipartisan immigration bill.

You don't need to think.

About you prisoner my responders to the rallies, she said, people start leaving.

People don't go to her rallies, Son of the beds.

People don't leave my rallies.

We have the biggest rallies, the most incredible rallies in the history of politics. Our country is being lost. We're a failing nation. In Springfield, they're eating the dogs the people that came in. They're eating the cats, they're eating they're eating the pets of the people that live there.

What the fuck just happened?

Because these unbelievable rally eating dogs Springfield, the immigrants are eating.

People's dogs, which reminds me, if I may, for just a quick moment, a quick reminder of all the pet owners out there, always remember to leash your dogs. It's an important way to keep your dogs from fighting other dogs, or being hit by a car, or being eaten by your immigrant neighbors. Oh, I'm sorry. Also, fuck off Dick Cheney, But I'm sorry you were saying.

I just want to clarify here. You bring up Springfield, Ohio, and ABCDS did reach out to the city manager there. He told us there have been no credible reports of specific the claims of pets being harmed, injured, or abused by individuals within the immigrant community.

All I seeing people intelligen let me just say, this is the people on television. My dog was taken and used for food. So maybe he said that, and maybe that's a good thing to say for a city manager.

I'm not taking this from the people are televisions.

Say dog was eaten by the people that went there.

Again, the Springfield city manager says there's no evidence of that.

Having spent some time in Springfield myself, I believe I know what's happening here. I believe Trump himself may be becoming one of Springfield's most famous residents.

And I believe we have some footage.

It's right and being all, no one listens to you. Someone ain't my lord.

And finally, no debate with a former president would be complete without addressing the former president's closing number of the Trump Show's first term.

Mister President, on January sixth, you told your supporters to march to the Capitol. You said you would be right there with them. Is there anything you regret about what you did on that day?

It wasn't done by me, It was done by others. It would have never happened if Nancy Pelosi and the mayor of Washington did the jobs. I wasn't responsible for security. Nancy Pelosi was responsible. She didn't do her job. I had nothing to do with that, other than they asked me to make a speech.

I showed up for a speech.

You spent two months riling up your base that our country had literally been stolen from them through fraudulent means that you could never even get a whiff of in a court of law, and let and let yourself just abuse them. You pressed on, you abuse their trust. You showed up for a speech. You fucking tweeted join me on January sixth. It will be wild. But suddenly now I would use the hired magician to the baum midside.

They say anymore.

But one thing will always be true, and it is the quality of the former president.

I respect the least.

Whenever he is cornered and forced to face even the smallest of consequences for his own mendacity and scheming, he reverts to the greatest refuge of scoundrels.

As Shaggy would say, it wasn't me. I did nothing wrong.

I just showed up.

They're the ones who went crazy.

This man who constantly professes to be your champion, who says they're gonna have to go through him to get to you. Will always when the boat is going down, be the first into the lifeboats, because in that moment he will always say the same thing.

I didn't know anything about it.

I was just told to show up for a cruise, even though everybody knows he was the fucking captain of the ship.

In any other country, that lad in any other country.

In any other country, that lack of accountability would be disqualifying. But in this country, it means the race is tighter than a would you excuse me for just one second, We'll be right back after this ky.

Bob let's call a helly, I was decided me a what about the show?

I have a quick bit of breaking news, if you'll excuse me, I just I have some breaking news. I've just been handed this bulletin breaking news.

Uh.

So we talked a little bit earlier about you know, these debates, do they even mean anything? Do they even do anything?

Apparently they did move the needle enough for one undecided voter, a miss Taylor Swift has endorsed Kamala Harris.

Right, So that's what happened. So, uh, you know what this means. Taylor Swift and I were watching TV at the same program.

Like that said, yeah, I guess tonight, my god, Tonight is the former CEO of Microsoft, He owns the Los Angeles Clippers and is the founder of USA Fax.

Please welcome to the program, mister Steve Bomer. So nice to see you.

Good to be here.

Now, young man, I I said, so a storied career.

You're one of the first employees in Microsoft, you become a CEO of Microsoft, you own the Los Angeles Clippers.

You have this.

Dream life that as a kid you probably never even thought those were the heights that you might be able to attain, and in that moment, you turn your attention to creating a fact website.

Exactly.

I retire from Microsoft, and I have nothing to do, yes, except to dive deep dark into government numbers.

Seriously, it feels like an anti midlife crisis.

It feels like.

A manner's decided, well, I'm just going to give up.

Well, my wife kind of got after me to start helping with the family philanthropy, and I kept saying, no, no, no, no, government takes care of all those things, and they don't. And she said, you're coming with me, and I snuck in the back. It said, but I'm going to look up the numbers.

And you did look up the numbers, and so what you've done is and it's a phenomenal site. And I make jokes, but it is so necessary in this world to provide the data from reputable sources. How do you even how do you decide what to put in there? How do you decide what are the sources? We have a guy here, Adam Chodakoff and childs we trust. He is a researcher extraordinary. He is the one who aligns us with That's kind of a part is insight? You might want to stay away from that. That's kind of thing.

Is that how you operate it? Or is this an algorithm? How is this done?

No, it's We started with the concept that said, let's look at government in its totality, because if you look at little pieces, boom, I grab a number and I can make it sound large, I can make it sound small. So let's put things in context. Let's put them in context with history. Let's only use government numbers. We go to a one hundred different government databases, and then we said what does government do who? We turned to the prologue or the cons Preamble to the Constitution. It lays

And other money?

How much are we spending and what kind of outcomes are we getting? Because government's not like a lot, like a business, So.

That to me is the crucial aspect.

You know, when Democrats talk about we need to tax billionaires more, no offense, and when we need to do these things. I think the one place where it falls short is I don't think people feel that more money is necessarily the answer, but maybe efficacy. The way we're it's not like we don't spend money on anti poverty, it just the efficacy might not be there. Did you discover programs that seem to be really effective in other areas where that money seems to be squandered?

What were some of the data points that you found that gave you a clear picture.

Let me start with eighty six percent of all federal and talk separate about state, local ste Yes, but eighty six percent of all federal spending is in a few simple areas.

Okay, let's go number one. Paying our debts, got to pay the interest on our debt?

How much goes to the debt. I've seen breakdown of taxes. I've heard that the third largest or second largest portion of our tax money goes to pay down the interest on the debt.

It's creeping up there. It's number five right now. Social securities number one.

Okay.

Medicare number two.

Okay, So two things that we pay into but don't get till we're older.

Correct, Okay, correct, that's number three. Number three is the military. Okay, Medicaid part of the four. Medicaid is four. Okay, exactly, sorry, the debt is four. Oh, Medicaid is five. Okay, Veterans benefits.

Okay. Let's see if I forgot any known.

So let's let's stop right there, because I stop right there because there's no inefficiency so far.

So I would disagree with you, Okay, go ahead.

If I'm thinking about this country, and I'm looking out into the audience, and I'm saying, so, what is the tension in their lives? And I don't necessarily know that because we've only worked together as an audience once before.

But I would say it's the squeeze.

It's people that had some college debt, but now they're in their forties or fifties, and just as they're clearing out all those things and getting into a decent earning place, their kids are getting ready to go to college, and the costs of that have exploded. And just as that's happening, their parents, who they thought were going to be fine with their social Security and their medicare and all those other things, are now needing real elder care and assisted

Those two groups.

So childcare, health care, elder care, all those things, the first six tranches of where our tax money goes doesn't seem like it's spent efficiently on relieving that pressure on families.

Now, that might be the wrong way to look at it.

Let me, let me push back, pleat me, push back. I give you, not you you can give me. I'm sixty eight. You give me a social Security check.

I take money from you.

You take money from me as just my premise.

Okay, fine, probably good one, you're probably a good premise, is fine, totally good press.

Right.

Anyway, a family gets a social Security check, right, that's going to help that senior who may need care, may need this may call that may need something else.

But designed mostly by the government because they thought we would all be dead by sixty five. Like we've all out we've lived much longer than the government thought we would.

The promise, Yeah, the promise of FDR days, we've outlived it. Nobody's quite sure what to do about it. We do know that people are doing less of their own elder care. More that's getting paid for in the by the government. In the market, right, you.

Do see a lot of people who their elder care is paid for by whatever equity they had left, so they can't leave anything to their kids. They mortgage their house, or they go through those things where they converted into liquidity and they use that money hopefully and it's there till they pass.

It's a little bit of whack a mole though.

Yes, we can increase taxes, we can borrow more money, right, or we can live with the kind of spending profile we have today. I mean something gives in that equation, and me personally, I will confess non partisan view for USA facts. We just give you the data. You make up your own mind. I'm a businessman. Balancing the budget seems good to me, and so I look at it and said, simple, we probably need some more taxes, probably, and we probably need less spending.

Probably less spending or more efficient spending. Is it a question of are we using? For instance, so Mark Cuban was on and you, guys, I'm sure go to the billionaire's brunch, which, by the way, I never understood.

Why do they do that at waffle house? It feels like you could get a better We'll forget it.

It's billionaire's basketball lunch. In that case, you are that billionaire's basketball lunch.

So he finds out that these pharmaceutical benefit managers are jacking up and hiking all these pharmaceutical prices. The government is not really allowed to negotiate with him, so he creates this business in which he does that is too much of our money that we spend on poverty programs or elder programs going through these middlemen that are enriching themselves.

Even the ACA.

Right, you think about Obamacare, what it really is is a boon for insurance companies to jump into another marketplace where the government says, well, we'll keep this same inefficient system where you get to deny care when you want to, and the pricing isn't transparent, and it's not really a free market system because healthcare is in a free market system, and we're just going to subsidize that insurance policy. It doesn't really change the dynamic of how healthcare is given.

Yes?

And you put on a bit yeah, son of a bitch, you put in it a little bit of context.

Okay, it's inefficient.

But if I tell you it's less than one percent of total health care spending in the US, less than one percent, you can say it's inefficient. I won't disagree with you. I can say it's one percent. And so even if we crushed the issue you're talking about down to nothing, down to absolute nothing, we still have a problem with health care spending.

We still are the need to deliver health care.

But isn't some of the problem we have with health care spending because the largest tranch of customers are unable to really negotiate effectively because it's not we have a for profit health care system. When you can't comparison shop for heart attack doctors, you basically get driven to wherever is closest.

There are three people basically who ensure almost everybody. Ninety two percent of Americans are not sure, But let's just talk about who are the three Okay, medicare where they can negotiate some things but not others, for example, prescription benefits except for the new caveats Medicaid where government negotiates.

Really hard, really hard.

I'm really impressed by what the government negotiates on behalf of the Medicaid page. And then private insurance for private insurance companies and their grinders. Baby, you know, they're delivering healthcare six thousand dollars a person. Now they're younger, Medicaid the most vulnerable people in our population ten thousand dollars a person, harder to take care of, and then senior sixteen thousand dollars.

Medical satisfied with their care. And those three tranches. Private insurance, no question, private insurance own.

I mean again, I don't have data from the US government, but I'm going to guess private insurance.

Is there any quomp in your mind of you know, they say that the biggest reason people go bankrupt is medical bankruptcy. Is is there any reason in your mind that a country like ours would the wealth that we have, should ever have a situation where people who are sick so they might be more satisfied, But is it at the cost of the percentage of them that will go bankrupt because there's no government backstop on it?

Well, do I think it's a good thing. No, I don't think anybody should go bankrupt for their health. I don't now how do we get from where we are to their Yes, is important, it is important. I have no prescription for that, but me personally and emotionally I agree with you one thousand percent. But to solve that problem,

So doesn't that sound like it's a system incentivized to that?

It is, and it is, and it is, and we accept medicaid, right, So they don't do twice as many.

Accept medicaid because medicaid is essentially it's on an HMO model, right, and things get negotiated differently.

Do you think that a public option, you know, the one that everybody shouts is the death of it all, is the thing that blows up the system, Because in some ways I always look at it, like, what do I think government's purposes? Like I love the fact that we're a checks and balances system, right, And it seems like within the government there is okay, judicial, congressional, executive,

But it does seem like.

Corporate power, transnational multinational corporate power also needs a check and a balance because capitalism is at its heart destructive.

There's collateral, it generates wealth, but it's destructive.

Why do we fight so hard against the government being a proper check on that, against that exploitation, whether it be in the medical field or in the college education field, or any of the other things. It seems like in European countries, I'm not saying it's a panacea. They pay more money, but they seem to get the services that connect more directly with their lives. Sort Of back to

It would seem well, let me give a perspective, please. I think the twin towers of the or democracy and capitalism. Okay, I really believe that wholeheartedly.

I don't want to tell you how that story ends, but go ahead.

Good point.

But so.

You're killing me here, you're killing me here.

It's tomorrow for Fox saying Jesus, what are you doing away New York Walk? I didn't, I'm sorry, I apologize.

What do you think I'm doing all day tomorrow? All right?

God?

Two killers about pillars?

Thank you?

Much better.

Capitalism is the predictable one.

Actually, really, that's interesting.

You you give capitalism set of rules people are going to compete. They're going to try to make as much money as they can, and that's what's going to happen.

It's predictable, but you.

Don't think it's it's by its nature exploitative though, like the monopoly.

The rigging of this is that seems all built into.

I'm going to get to the second I'm sorry democracy. So the fact that capitalism is predictable is actually a great tool for government.

Okay.

Government needs to then train this highly predictable tool to do what society wants it to do. That's the role of democracy is to not it is a role of democracy is to inform where you want to point this highly predictable capitalist motive and look, if the world needs more regulations, put them in.

But you're going to get I don't know, but it certainly needs to be something that helps protect us against capitalism's baser instinct.

In some respect.

Just let me give it a base instinct. Okay, Okay, let's say my base instinct is to.

I want to destroy the habitat of a set of birds by building a windmill.

Okay, let's says that's the topic.

Can I just say something very quickly, you bastard. Why you son of a bitch.

Okay, mister democracy, let's take it on no birds. Yes, the capitalist is going to try to get that windmill built. Sure, if you want it built, capitalists still get it built. If you want to protect the birds, the capitalists will stop trying to build that windmill. I talk to guys who's actually trying to build one of the largest wind farms in the world.

I'm going to give you a different example.

Give me a different example.

Capital lists want to find the cheapest labor they can possibly find, so they offshore all the jobs in manufacturing and all these other things to Vietnam and Bangladesh and India and China and places where worker protections don't exist, undercutting American workers, and the democratic system fails its own workers and not only allows it encourages it, and then decides, well, you're doing so well on labor costs, why don't we cut your taxes as well.

So that's in my mind, I view it.

As the pendulum has swung completely and we are at the mercy of those instincts, and democracy is failing in whatever it's directive is. It doesn't sound to me like democracy points capitalism it sounds to me like capitalism points democracy.

I'll speak, I would think I'll speak now as a former CEO.

Capitalism responds. Maybe, Look, people are generally good people. They'll respond to. You give us an incentive, we'll go do it. You give us a regulation, We're going to obey it.

That's what that's what. No, it's what happens. It really is all right to the ninety nine per se.

You want to get anywhere here.

I give you two thousand and eight.

But no, so saying is if somebody, let's take your labor labor class issue, perfectly good issue. Yes, businesses are going to try to reduce labor class. If you don't want those jobs to move, then government needs to put a tax or an incentive. They're sort of kissing cousins if you will to keep the jobs on shore. But what about and take the consequences.

But then we're competing for their love? What about this?

They get the benefit of our stability, of our capital, of all the things that make us a free market, stable democracy, and they have no responsibility. They get all of the infrastructure and none of the toll And that's the part that I don't understand. You know, we have states competing with each other for who can fuck over workers the best. You know, when everybody talks about globalization, and you know Mexico and India are stealing our jobs. Well,

I personally have no problem with government providing more direction to capitalism. I don't, but then there sometimes are untoward consequences. Let's just take the offshoring. Sure, short Okay, let's just say whatever the policy is, it gets more jobs on short at higher wages, Prices will go up.

Prices will go up.

And as long as that trade off is the tradeoff that people want less buying power but more people have higher paying jobs, how that actually shakes out.

For the America.

And I'm not an economist, I'm not going to make predictions, but there is a trade off on most of.

Them's decision ability though that there's a renegotiation of what normal is in terms of profit margin, and in terms of capitalization, and in terms of corporatization, and in terms of tax is there is there a new normal that can be achieved? You know, we saw it in the pandemic, where of course there were supply chain you know, crunches, and that drove up prices. But there's no question that a lot of companies took advantage of a difficult moment

Since the start of the pandemic, yep CPI price index is up about nineteen percent, right, Okay, we still have inflation. Those prices are not going to come back down, They're just going to grow more slowly. Wages were up twenty one percent, right. Wages were actually up more than prices, you know. And so if you take a look at it, the buying power it's not much, but the buying power of Americans increcreased slightly slightly. So nobody likes inflation. It's

Do you think though, that as complex as inflation is and all the different avenues that go into it, do you think a portion of it at least because I listened to some of those earnings calls in the pandemic and people are.

Like, we're kimning it.

Our profits have never been higher, and everybody's like, yay, so isn't isn't that a part of it?

Then I would say if I was to make a suggestion, go increase corporate income taxes, just increase corporate income taxes.

That reduces profit, I just don't know. I mean, that's you.

I just don't know if it's it's.

You want to lot the business regulating individual decisions just is my point of view?

Right?

Bad do you want it? You want to take my profits? As there a company.

I think there is a transaction to be had between government and corporate leaders where they come to an understanding that it's a more symbiotic relationship and not an exploitative relationship.

The invisible hand, so to speak of Adam Smith. Yes, there is no master planning. You can't say, be nice.

But we're not freemark. There is though there's subsidies that they get.

There is no subsidies, and there's regulations. There are rules, and I love that, right, I love Look, there's some regulations if I'm running a company I might like or not, like we just built an arena for our basketball team.

Why we had to have our own homes?

Just kidding so we can beat the Knicks when they come to town.

Let me just explain very quickly that was but chat, No, it makes sense.

Listen, man, It's an incredibly complex conversation, and I really do appreciate your patience with me on it and all that. It's just I think the frustrations have been with what I love about your site, and let's bring it back to that is that you've brought together all the data and context necessary to have these conversations, because these conversations feel like they don't occur. All that occurs on the news is how do you think that's going to play

Well, that's what we're trying to do. We have very conscious nonpartisan here's the data. We're going to make it digestible for you. We're not going to try to tell funny stories. We're not going to make forecasts about the future. There's a quote that's very motivating to me as we started this thing from James Madison's you go all the

We make videos.

Who's the start of the videos, Steve Bond. I'm just going to say, unreal play not for nothing. You live in Los Angeles. You couldn't grab hanks. Come on, you know, come on, throw them out there to give some facts. It's a fabulous site and you're doing great work there and I so appreciate you coming on and giving us such interesting perspective on business and government and regulation and all those different things.

It's really helpful. So thank you for doing that.

Take out you up study facts dot Org, mister Steve Bodam And you're not gonna beat our knicks.

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If we can come up with a plan that's going to cost our people, our population less money and be better healthcare than Obamacare, then I would absolutely do it. But until then I'd run it as good as it can be run.

So just yes or no. You still do not have a plan. I have concepts of a plan.

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