India.Arie Discusses Spotify and Joe Rogan | India.Arie

catching up on all of the news. But I had truly one of my favorite conversations with a human being that I ever thought I could have, and that's with our guest today, Multi Grammy Award winning artist India Ari. She was here to talk about Joe Rogan and everything that's going on with Spotify, and to be honest with you, I think the conversation turned into something way more beautiful and and I appreciate it her sharing it with me, and so I decided I had to share it with you,

and I really think that you will appreciate it. So just for today here it is a special episode. That is one conversation that I think touches on almost everything ms in d are Welcome to the Daily Show. Thank you for pleasure to be here. Um, it's it's a pleasure for me. I've been a fan of yours. I mean from from the moment you came out. I loved your music. UM, loving your hair. By the way, I know you're not the heir, but I I cannot not comment on it. I know it's been a journey to

have more hair than normal. Thank you very much. Yeah, yeah, we both listen on this journey together. You know, UM, I need to find out what products you use. Will we'll we'll discuss off off the air. Been trying to figure that out. You know. I wanted to have you on the show so we could chat. Um, and you know, it's it's funny your name. Can I just say I'm nervous, and you know what, I like that. I would like for you to say that you nervous. I just had

to get it out. I'm like that on stage two when I have something inside it's just seeing I have to say it's like a move past it. I'm nervous because there's a lot to say. Yes, well there's a lot. I'm because I'm good at singing about these things and talking about them for me is new, and although I've done a lot of work to to own my voice. Yes, this is a big, a big conversation, a lot of people watching, and we're not even going to sing, We're just talking. So it's I'm nervous. No, I'm glad that

you said that. You know why I'm glad you said it is because two things. One, I feel like a lot of people are nervous to have conversations these days. And I think a lot of us are nervous to have conversations because these days, conversations get broken down into sound bites as opposed to the conversations that they actually are. I know that that's happened to you. I know that

happens to me many times. You know you. You You try and give a complete thought that is as flawed and as as complicated as human beings themselves are, and then someone will distill you into one part of a sentence that tries to turn you into into a lightning rod for a different conversation that you're not trying to be a part of. So so let let's start with this, because I think I understand this correctly. Joe Rogan is not your mortal enemy, right goodness? Uh no, And I

don't even know him. But my conversation, of course, has been about Spotify and its treatment of artists. But because of what the media does now has become this conversation between me and him and about me and him, and I'm willing to have it because if the tears must be had, I suppose. But he's not. I don't. I don't have any mortal enemies. I like that. Let's let's talk about the music first and then we'll talk about

the Joe Rogan of it all. So, you know, you said something that a lot of artists have been have been talking about with regards to Spotify being the biggest player, but streaming in general, and how like musicians have I mean, I don't have tricked is the right word, but it feels like a lot of musicians have been tricked out of earning money from their music. And now the labels

make money from the music. We stream the music. We've we're supporting the artist, but really what we're supporting is the label, and then you are the artist are basically making zero money unless you are let's say, Drake or Taylor Swift. They make the bulk of the money, no matter how much people sort of listen to you as India are am I am I even close to understanding what's happening with musicians who aren't top of the charts like the and and by the way, let's also include

the fact that you are an award winning artist. You've sold ten million albums worldwide. It's not like you're you're you're a struggling artist. You are an artist, but it feels like it's a lopsided game. And am I close to understanding the concept? You're very close? There are a few distinctions I would make. Um. So, first of all, Spotify is not only the biggest player, but they're also

the lowest payer. So songwriter and we had to come out there, and so what happens is they say, well, this is just how it is, this is just what this is what you get paid. But the labels and Spotify and the streaming platforms together are making those decisions, and so they're telling you this is what we decided, this is what you get. And so I know most music fans think, we think we listen, you get the money. We listen you get the money because we're listening to

you that's why people don't buy albums anymore. We're still supporting you, is what we think. You listen, just talking about Spotify in particular. You listen, we get point zero zero three to point zero zero five of a penny, a fraction of a penny. That's what we get, and that's what makes it um. It has been making the professions of producer and songwriter unlivable for a lot of people.

I'm blessed that I have been successful, but a lot of people are just doing that as a job that they love and walking this type of this type rope of taking a chance, of using their gifts to take care of their families. Are just working musicians and the a lot of people can't do it now because because of the pay, the streaming is low, and now the pandemic has cut touring, and so a lot of people are like tired of even having the debate whether or not someone should get paid for their work. Now you

hear a lot of artists talking about it. And what I think a lot of people missed in the video of yours that went viral was you saying that you know, as you say, we live in a world now where I get it I get clickbaits. I get that people, you know, these websites and the and the news organized that they need people to come into a story. Nuance doesn't sell, the conversation doesn't sell, just the click of itself.

You must be sick of talking about your Rogan. I'm assuming like now because it seems like they've made it about you and him when it isn't. So forgive me for going back to this, but like, let's let's go back to that video and let's go back to that moment.

A lot of people saw this video where India came out and said, hey, here's this Joe Rogan and word compilation where he's saying this and here's him telling a joke, you know, about black people being apes, and and you gave what what I felt was really impassioned plea in and around how you as the artists have contributed to creating the platform that this person is on, but the

platform is not rewarding you, the rewarding that person. And what people lost in the conversation was you asking or arguing more about the power you have in the platform that you're part of creating, as opposed to canceling or wiping out Joe Rogan's podcast. So I would love to know when when you put that, when you put that Joe Rogan video out, what were you hoping would happen

or what do you think would happen. I have to say that asking for my music to be pulled from Spotify and protests doesn't actually serve me because now my music, if things work out the way I want, my music won't be heard on the biggest streaming platform. But I did it in protest just because I felt like my dignity was being I felt like I was being distress affected.

But I didn't think and there's a long conversation about that, about not being heard in the industry, not being respected in the industry for not just me, a lot of people, especially artists of color, especially women of color in the industry, And so I was just I just thought the only way to affirm my dignity and my integrity is to be honest about how I feel. So I asked to

just take it down. I didn't expect anyone to listen, because I'm used to this certain type of treatment from the industry where they don't listen, they don't listen to what I say in the songs. They don't listen. When I say that there's mistreatment, they don't listen. I say it, but they don't listen. And so, UM, to be honest, that made it easier to say over the years because I'm like, well, I'm say whatever, and some people were hearing.

You know, I'm just being honest. And so when I was sitting on my couch that day and I made the decision to just say that I wanted my music off, I certainly didn't think it was gonna lead to all this and so but um, integrity is big here for me, and so being the same person I and inside as the one I act like outside, it made me have to maybe have to speak up. But also when I have invited into conversations like this that are a bit uncomfortable for me because I sing about this but I

don't really talk about it much. Um, I'm willing to show up for it because this is what the world did with the conversation and all I can do is do my best to express. But I certainly I thought it would be easier because I thought they will, okay, take her off, all right, go ahead, take her off. And then I had to fight to get it off too. I'm still in a fight to get it off. That's that's that's really wild. It's really wild. What what holds

other conversations? Yeah, it's it's really interesting. Just I think what it's exposed about the industry, the conversations that it's got us having. Now. So so here's my opinion. I think in America there's a really simplified conversation that people like to have because because it makes it makes people feel good about themselves, or it makes them feel like things are moving forward or not. You know, so it's it's easy to go good person, bad person, good guy,

bad guy. Then we've solved it, and then it's done, you know, right, And and I know that I know that you've spoken on this. You know, you said there were parts of Joe Rogan's apology where you were like, yeah, I I appreciate that he has learned that he shouldn't be running around saying the N word just to prove that he's edgy. And then you also said, I also

don't know that I would label him a racist. And and and this really struck me because I mean I talked about that on the show, you know, countrary to what clickbait will tell you, Like I talked about that on the show, and I said, it is something that I struggle with, and I could see you having a similar you know struggle in that conversation is have you And I'm only honestly asking this question because I myself am in a world of trying to understand and get

answers for myself. Did you get any closer to understanding that? Like? Do you think Joe Rogan is a racist? Do you like? How do you feel about the whole thing right now? I think there are two things that we consider when we talk about racism, and one is conscious racism and the other is unconscious racism. And so I have learned in my life too may groom and forgiveness for people who are unconsciously racist, because our whole society is built

on racist concepts. So if you're born into it, if you're not actively working to not be racist, then you have some of it in you. And I mean, I've had people that I love who I know love me, always showed up for me, always were there for me. I had a musician dearly departed who I could cry thinking about him now. He loved me so much. We played together for twenty years, and every time we say, he would just look at me with so much like

love and admiration. I mean, after twenty years, every time I'd saying, he just go you just look at me. We loved each other. But there were times when he would say racist things and I would have to be like hey, you know and something in the band. My band was mostly black men and women, and we would be like hey, hey, like trying to educate him because he was born into a world that taught him a certain way and didn't teach him other ways. And then

there's conscious racisms when you know you're doing it. And like you said in your monologue, if a person keeps doing it, is that what we call them a racist? So if you know you're doing it and you keep doing it, I would say that is a racist. And So for me when I think about I want to be nice. I was gonna say this name that I'm tired of saying. But for me, when I think about Joe Rogan, I think I think that he is being

consciously racist. I mean, since the early nine we've had an agreement in our society that we don't say the word or P or you have to suffer the consequences and so saying it and then being like, what are you gonna do? Oh, sorry, I didn't mean that, or I didn't understand there was no context under which I should say it. I don't believe that. I think he knew there was no context. I think that's why he was saying it, because it got a rise out of people. That's why he would say it. He knew that it

was inappropriate. And I think the fact that the fact that he did it repeatedly and was conscious and knew, I think that is being racist. And I don't like even saying that because I'm a sensitive, old soul and I want to believe the best in people. So when I first heard his apology, my instinct is to go, he tried. But when I go deeper and ask myself what I really think, from my commitment to truth that I've made this last year, what I really think is

that he was being consciously racist. And it makes me wonder what he talks like behind closed doors. If you have even a consciousness where you can call black people apes, that's something there. I went back and I watched like a bunch of the podcasts, and it's really interesting that you say that, because I think there are two parts

that I found myself breaking it into. Is like one, when Joe Organ started doing this thing, it's really interesting that you say that, what does he talk about in private? A lot of podcasts used to be a bunch of talking in private. You know, the way you said you never felt hurt. I think a lot of people used to make podcasts like that. It was just the thing they do in a basement with their friends and then

they talk ship and they say whatever. I also say this as a comedian, like the ship that we talked about at comedy clubs. I don't know if it's the same with musicians or the things we're saying backstage. You're like, it's it's almost like, yeah, it's it's it's part and partible with the job. And by the way, it's not that we don't say things are racist. The amount of times I've said to a comedian around it, it would

be like, that's racist the ship. They'll be like, oh, come on, and we we we fight, but we're still friends. Maybe because we have more things that connect us than more things that separate us. But we are able to call things out as being racist, or as being sexist, or as being whatever. But we don't go you're not a human being anymore. You just go like, nah, man, that was you shouldn't have said that. That's racist? How can we even think that way? And then we and

then we fight. I honestly found like what what happened like with the Joe Rogan thing? What I watched was I watched a guy where these clips are not from yesterday, these clips are from years ago. At some point Joe Rogan realized people were listening, I think, and also did not want to be that person, and so he just stopped using it. I think that counts for something personally, you know. But I also think there's an element of um. You know when they go what my grandmother would say

of me when I was young, should go um. She'd say it in different ways, but essentially what you say about me. Sometimes you're being a ship. You're being a little ship. You know. It's where you you know which buttons to push because because you know what it gets out of people. I found generally, not just as a comedian, but as a person, oftentimes it is easy for us to engage in risque or risky topics or conversations when the danger is not in proximity to us. Do you

know what I'm saying? It's funny like like like even even on the show, I remember we used to send people out to like two rallies. You don't like to go to Trump rallies and all of like the black correspondence to work on the show. We're like, I can't go there and it's not fun, you know. And then you would find like some of our white corresponders, let's say Jordan Clipper, he would go. Then he would say,

it's the weirdest thing. He's not agreeing with these people, but they just have like a chummy nous with him where it's like they can almost they can almost say whatever they want to say, you know. And and there's an element of going like, oh, I look like you,

so maybe you I think like you, you know. And so when it's funny that you say the thing of of of the Joe Rogan because I don't know, I I go, it's it's a it's it's one of those instances where you you go, do you do you put a hand out to a person and hope that they don't like chop it off or do you stay safe and put your hand in your pocket and go like, no, it's just safer to label you as this human being. And so I understand your conflict and the dilemmas that

you're in because you know what you're saying. You're trying to be a person with a soul and a spirit, and you're trying to go, Hey, Joe Rogan, I'm glad that you acknowledge these things, because there are people who follow you who will go, Okay, I guess it's not okay to say this word. I'm glad you've acknowledged that. There's also people who go, okay, calling black people apes is racist. I'm glad that you've acknowledged this thing. But then at the same time, you know what I mean,

people go like, can you accept that? And should you accept that? And that's I think a conversation society is having as a whole is what is the path to redemption for anyone? We all want to forgive, we all want people to get better, we all want to see the change, But what is that part to redemption. I don't think we've ever truly figured that out in society. I don't think being a bad person and being racist are mutually exclusive? Or did I even say that? Right?

I think being a racist doesn't automatically make you a bad person. I never knew how to use that saying. I don't know that being a racist makes you a bad person necessarily, it makes you a person who was raised in our society. Yeah, but when does it cross over into being a bad person or being harmful? When does it cross over into that? And so I feel like in the intellectual circles, what I've learned is that they would say there has to be power behind the

prejudice to make it racism. You have racist thoughts that you can institute with power, and that's racism. And so if you're Joe Rogan and you have this huge listening audience, by you doing that, you emboldened them to do that. And now we're in trouble as society. Forgive me because I forget this man's name, but there's a Harvard professor that called it the atomic bomb of racial slurs. H. I don't believe Joe Rogan didn't know was the atomic

bomb of racial slurs. I believe he knew. And even if he was, like you said, just being a little ship, that's one conversation. But now if you have power to institute it, and you have this whole audience that is now thinking, maybe it's okay for them to do it. Now we are in trouble with this atomic bomb. But sorry to cut you off on that before you move on, doesn't That's why I asked the question. Someone asked me this the other day. There was random in the streets.

Someone walked up to me and they were like, yeah, I'm glad you destroyed Joe Rogan. I was like, first of all, I don't destroy anybody. I don't cancel people. I don't I don't slam, I don't ever rate I there's a lot of like violent language that gets used. I'm I'm predominantly a human being and then a comedian. Comedians we tell jokes most of the time. I don't take things that seriously. But what I found interesting was this.

I found myself talking this person in the streets and I said to them, where where do we want to be in the world? Do we want to be in a place in the world where we say Joe Rogan leads people and so for by him saying the N word and making these jokes, he's leading them down the wrong path. But then by that logic, should we not then say by him acknowledging it's the wrong thing and by going down, then we should also acknowledge that that's

a good thing. Because the last thing we want to do, and I'm genuinely afraid of this in society, is I don't want to live in a society where we cost people out because the like, as you say, the bad people are so happy for that. They're soul. They're like like there was that it's like another streaming platform or whatever it is. They offered Joe Rogan money. I don't know if they would give it to him or not, but they said, come Joe and bring all those N

word podcasts with you. Do you know what I mean? And I was going like, Yo, do I do I want to live in a world where someone like Joe Rogan doesn't get a chance and becomes welcomed by the worst of ID Or do I want to live in a world where jar Rogan can say, yeah, poked up and yeah I was being full of ship, and yeah I was playing with racism and I pocked up and and and now I don't want to be a part

of that. And then you go like his listenership is hearing this going like, yeah, Joe, we we agree with you because we follow you. This is not the cool thing to do. And the reason I asked that fun enough is because I think of it around the conversations of criminal justice reform. I think about how many people, especially in America, you know, live in a world where they commit a crime or they live a life that

has forced them into crime. Right. People will argue about forced or not forced all the time, but I don't think anybody wants to do crime. You know. People do the crime, they serve their time, they get their punishment whatever it may be, as just or unjust as it may be. But I find society doesn't give them an opportunity to come back even when that's happened, and society goes, no, you are a criminal. And then I always ask people, I go, how long? How long are your criminal? For? Now? Right?

You know? And so I wonder what that I go, Do I want your Rogan to now join a gang quote unquote, or do I want to live in a world where I can be like yo, Joe, Joe Rogan, you poked up. I should be able to say that as a person use India, you can say that's a person. I think we should all be able to critique, criticize, talk ship and and still live in the world where you go, even though I still do not want you to be like, you know what I mean, ostracized into

a world that will encourage that behavior. Only maybe that's how I see it. That's how I see it too, And but I don't think we've yet seen changed enough behavior from Joe Rogan to say interesting, Okay, that's interesting, because I don't think he fully understands what he did there. And so I want to tell you my d m s and my comments are wild right now. And one of the people just all kinds of racial slurs and

misogynistic ones. So yeah, all kinds. And so that says to me that these people who want to defend Joe Rogan think that this is the right language to do it. So Joe Rogan needs to do more than go oh yeah, I'm sorry. He needs to if you want to really leave your listeners down a new path, then leave them to the point where they don't feel that it's the right language to come into my d M S and call me an N word in defense of him. He needs to teach them that they shouldn't feel that way.

They're not making him look good. You gotta It is an insane irony when you think about it, because I've had I've had the same thing. No, I mean, it's insane when you think about it. They literally come into your d M s calling you the N word, saying to you, how dare you say this about your Rogan? You N word? He's a good guy. You n world. And I hope you like every death threat you can imagine every go back to Africa, slur every do you

know what I mean? And people don't understand when they say that to me, that means I must go on a vacation. It's not exactly a slift. I will go back to Africa to see my family. So but but but you see, I'm I'm glad you said that because I didn't think. I mean, I don't know anyone just having the experience. But it's interesting that you say that people live here. You said to me, like, oh, you're just an inward couldn't this what they throw all of

the things in all of the things. But in defense of a person who said what I did was wrong and they're going, it's not wrong, it's it's such a complicated bowl of But that's interesting that you say that you feel like you would like to see Joe Rogan do a little more work in the world of tackling what he did and what it was all about. Yes, I would love to see him do more work around

tackling what he did and what it's all about. Because, like I said, and as we kind of know, if you are a certain type of person in this world, if you're not doing especially as a white person, I want to say, if you're not doing the work to

not be racist, then it's in you. So Joe Rogan has given the opportunity now to do the work and to teach other people like, hey, we this is why you know you have this show with eleven million people listen every time or whatever they're saying, leave them, learn for yourself and then lead them because now you're making this world a better place. And so I would love to see that. Also, what you said about being a comedian backstage, like and what you said, I think before

we even came on camera. I'm not sure if you're on yet, but you said, I feel like we need to have mess in your conversations. I love the idea of being able to just talk about stuff and to be able to get some stuff kind of wrong and to be able to get it right and to be

able to be messy and talk it through. I feel like that is idealistic, but it's what I would love to see because in the end, people can act like we're individuals and all that, but we really are interconnected humanity, and so being more and more divided is not going to fix anything. Being that fixes things is by talking, and maybe the talk won't work, but maybe it would,

but just automatically being divided does not work. And so when I have these conversations on my social media, and like you said, I'm trying to be nuanced and to unpack it all. It's really hard to do with people who want you to and people who do at you use language as this blunt, forced instrument, and then they want you to do it too. But it's just not my nature. And so I'm trying to unpack it. And but I wish that that's what we could do, because

what is what is canceling? Anybody do like like we know they'll just go somewhere else. Well, you have these people that you can influence, do do do influence them, do more than just saying oh sorry, that's not enough. Thank you, Thank you for joining me. And I'm really sorry for the ship storm that is created in your life. You know, UM, I know how horrible it is to have,

UM I want to not feel safe. I'll say that, you know, UM if I if I can just imagine some of your d ms based on some of mine, I'm sorry to you for how unsafe it can make you feel as a person, as a woman. Thank you for saying and so uh yeah, I'm sorry for the ship storm this is creating your life, and I'm grateful to you for taking the time and joining me to talk about it, because I do think. Can I please tell you something else? I have to tell you something else.

If I may, you can say whatever you like. There is one year my life fell apart to my life's fault apart a few times. I keep putting it back together because that's life. But there's a big time back in two thousand nine and one of my mentors gave me the homework of figuring out who my hero was.

They were like, you have to pick one who's your hero and I thought it was a musician, and maybe because I went through all these musicians, it took me two weeks to figure out that for a lot of reasons, my hero was Maya Angelo Hm and so because I am magic, I manifested being able to be with her. I went to her house in Harlem. We had this conversation and one of the things I asked her was like, basically, what what do I do? How do I navigate life

and be my best? Basically we talked about other stuff, relationship ships and how to forgive broken hearts and all kind of other stuff, but the real question was what do I do? And our wisdom keeper I could cry, she said, just tell the truth. She said, I grew up in a time when telling the truth could get you killed because the Civil rights movement. And she said, and I always told the truth, and I've been working towards being more of that person. And in like showed

me that I wasn't always being honest with myself. Because what I wanted to be able to do was see the best in everyone, see the best in our world, believe that we can be our best. That's what my music is all about. Anybody who knows my music. That's what you hear. People know brown Skin video here, but my my catalog is full of songs about spiritual ideals and concepts. Is what I do. And wanting to see the best in everything made it so that it wasn't

oftentimes seeing what things were. And this thing I keep referring to of making a decision about being honest. I read this book from a woman named Martha Beck and she talked about it in Integrity Cleans, and so it sounded right to me because I'm having this disillusionment of like how I saw the world and what the world

really is showing me and growing up. And so I decided last summer around may that I was just gonna tell the truth all the time and see what it did with my life, and of course thinking about Maya, and that's what I've been doing. And it's hard for me to say to point out someone and say, no, you're a racist. I don't want to be that person. But but for me, it is what is true. And

this hasn't blown up my life. I wouldn't say. I would say it's given me an opportunity to further in investigate how honest I can be and the best that I can be because Maya Angelo is my hero, because I want to be something like her someday and the only way to get there is to be like her. And so I want to be a person who can be honest, who can have hard conversations and light ones,

who can sing the stuff and speak it. And so I'm learning to see this as a scary moment but also an opportunity for growth, because growth is no it's always scary, really, And so that's where I'm at and I do sometimes I have been feeling a little bit unsafe, but more than anything, I'm feeling expanded. Can I say one thing to you before we go? Then, based on that, he has a he's a truth that, like one of

my truths, is this. I think one of the biggest reasons people are so violently against calling a thing what it is, or seeing a thing for what it may be, or even acknowledging something in themselves is that we haven't developed a framework in society to allow people to not be that thing. And so if you live in a world where you are a racist, a sexist, misogynist, a xenophope, whatever it may be, a even if you are that true,

you are brought up that way. You grew up in a community that whatever it may be, whatever may be, does society give you the option to not be that anymore? And does society give you the option to adopt a different label. If society doesn't do that, then people will violently refuse acknowledging any of these things because then they know that that means they're forever condemned to being kicked

out of society, you know. And it's funny. I was talking to some friends back in South Africa the other day, but like the harshest punishment, and we talked about how like Africans used to deal with punishment, and one of the worst things that could happen to you in a South African tribe, you know, before like colonization even was if they really felt like you could not be reasoned within the tribe, you would be told to leave. That

was your punishment. Not you wouldn't be put in a cage, you would be kicked out of society, which is the

complete opposite of what people do today. And it's because they knew that that was one of the greatest punishments that you could, you know, um impose on another human is not let them be a part of And so I think, honestly, until America gets to a place where it can decide, and not just America, many places in the world, but until America gets to a place where it can go, Okay, you you did this, you were this.

But now there's a time, there's a way, there's there's some path that you can that you can take towards reconciliation. Unless you do that, you will never have an honest conversation ever because people will dig in their heels and say, I cannot afford to be labeled racist in any way, shape or form, because that means I get kicked out of society. And so I would rather deny the fact that is right in front. I would rather not tell the truth because the truth won't set you free, it

will do the complete opposite. That's what I honestly, but also denied to yourself, like it's easier to buy to yourself. You know. What I would love to see Joe Worldan do is to have especially some of our greatest thinkers, some of our greatest black female thinkers around race on his show, to have those messy conversations. That's what I would love to see because I want to see because, like you said, is there a way out? In education?

Is the way out? Not that anybody's going to see him different because we don't know how to love each other really, but maybe it would matter, Maybe it would matter messy conversations in the area. I can talk to you forever. Thank you for taking the time, Thank you for being vulnerable with me, thank you for sharing the space,

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