If You Don't Know, Now You Know - Racist History of Highways | Frances Haugen

you pray about sex and romance. You know what's crazy about Valentine'sday is that it's based on Saint Valentine, Like you know what I mean, Like it's like the Saint of Valentine's Day, And do you ever think about like how shitty it is for certain saints, like what they have to look after? Do you know what I mean? Because like some saints have cool things. St Christopher, the Saint of Travel sat look after me as I take on this treacherous durn. Please Saint Christopher look after me.

Saint Sebastian, the Saint of Martyrdom, you're going to die, You're gonna give up your life. St. Sebastian look after my soul as I give my life up for a great cause. St. Valentine. St. Valentine, Yo, man, can you help me find chocolate the CBS? Please? Man, let me figure out out because I'm trying to smash tonight, yo. And the cheap chocolate is not as like super expensive Belgian ones, just good enough that she thinks I thought

about her ahead of time. All right, Saint Valentine, Thanks my dude, coming to you from the heart of times. Were in New York City, the only city in America. It's the Daily shy here edition Tonight Roads or Races. Reading up for Valentine Francis is The Daily Show with Trevor. Hey, what's going on? Everybody? Welcome to the Daily Show. I'm Trevor Noah. Let's jump straight into today's headlines. We kick things off with bitcoin, the only money that doesn't have

slaveholders on. One of the advantages of cryptocurrency was supposed to be how it was secure from theft, and I would explain why, but instead just us that one dude at the next party you go to. He'll be very happy to go into great detail. But despite the supersecurity of crypto, they have unfortunately been some major crypto heists over the years, and the same technology that makes it hard to steal, also makes the perpetrators extremely hard to catch. Hard,

but not impossible. This morning, the Justice Department announcing the largest single seizure of funds in the department's history. Investigators say hackers broke into an online currency exchange back in stealing one D twenty thousand bitcoin, which at the time was worth seventy one million dollars, but today it's worth

a staggering four point five billion. Ilia Lichtenstein and his wife, Heather Morgan are charged with laundering bitcoin tied to the hat using thousands of small transactions and accounts set up with fake ideas. Holy shit, four and a half billion dollars in stolen bitcoin. This is huge. You realize, You realize there's three d and thirty million people in the

United States and that's four point five billion dollars. So that means you could give each person in the US ten ten if you fire, you could give everyone some money.

And by the way, you might think that everyone who uses bitcoin would be happy that the police were able to track down the stolen crypto, but it turns out no. It turns out a lot of the crypto community actually took this as bad news because cryptocurrency is supposed to be anonymous, and if the FBI can trace bitcoin to someone who might have stolen it, what's to stop them from tracking innocent people who are just using bitcoin to

buy heroin and automatic weapons. This is scary stuff, but where some people see a problem, I'd like to see opportunities, which is why, my friends, I've created a new form of currency that is totally anonymous and completely untraceable, and it comes with just a little bit of cocaine on it. So if you're interested, I'm gonna be selling these on my website for fifty dollars each. I think it's a steel. Now you're probably wondering who are the criminal geniuses who

are part of one of the biggest financial crimes in history. Well, you know when they say you should never meet your heroes, Yeah, this is why Litzon signed A US and Russian citizen, is described in a profile online as a tech entrepreneur, and according to morgan social media profiles, she's a serial entrepreneur and a part time rapper. In one of her songs, Morgan calls herself the infamous Crocodile of Wall Street and

many things, a rapper, an economist, a journalist writer. I don't know what you're thinking, the bitcoin crimes or nothing compared to Colin this ship rap? What was that? A rapper? And economists? Yo, rapper is not just like saying what what is that? And also even if you are a rapper, you know it's never a good sign for your rap career when you're listening all your other jobs in a song, you're just a rapper. This person is running around like

yo yo yo. This definitely doesn't pay the bills. I have to do a bunch of other things because as you can tell, no one would pay for this. And this wasn't a once off crime. By the way, the rap video not not the money. This woman, it turns out, has been spitting wet fire everywhere that she's been given a chance. Mothers, howdo what I gotta do? Yodo? Our mission is noble? Yeah, I want to be a mogul. My attendees going global building Empire, Coln Stantinople, you made

a stable get icy like fro Yo. I gotta stay vocal Bitcoin etherory of Hodu am C game stop Yolo please, Jesus, I beg you no more? Like what is she? Which rap is she listening to that, she thought that was a reference for rap. That's what I want to know, Like, where were she listening to rapp? And she's like, I could do that. I'm gonna go and do the exact same thing. No, no, yo yo. And if you're sitting next to you in the room, what are you thinking?

Are you okay in that? Here's the tip, kids, if you want to look cool while doing your rap, don't read your lyrics off to the side. Practice and learn the thing, because otherwise it sort of eliminates your swag the whole time. She's like doing this to catch the next rhyme that's dead though. You can't do that. No rapper would have six Can you imagine if Tupuk was reading his rhymes off on the side. You claim to be a player? Butt up? Just screwed. Sorry, guys, screwed

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pain in his eyes. They're coming for his family. I'll never understand how people are smart enough to commit the biggest crimes but them dumb enough to never get away with it. I mean, like, there's a better way to do this crime. And I'm not trying to give anyone advice on how to do crime. Please, I'm not giving advice. But here's the thing. If you steal crypto, don't just keep it all in one place, yo. What you gotta do is break it up into multiple wallets. You keep

those wallets offline, in separate drives, right. Then you make sure that your keys are not in the cloud or written down anyway. Then you move to a country that doesn't have any extradition laws to the US. Then you loaned the money slowly using other crypto or n f t s. And again, I'm not giving advice on doing crime this alright, let's move on to our top story. One of President Biden's guest accomplishments so far. I mean, aside from allowing students to keep their debt, has been

the infrastructure package. It's at one point to trillion dollar law that's going to help rebuild roads, expand access to clean drinking water, and finally get around to adding all the other colors to stoplights. And while most of the infrastructure package was pretty uncontroversial, there was one thing that was very deep in the package that has actually got a lot of people riled up. Democrats, led by President Biden, say now is the time to build back better. But

leaders don't just want to build an update roads. In some cases, they want highways torn down. Democrats would like to provide funding to tear down highways that had a damaging effect on urban minority communities. There is racism physically built into some of our highways, and that's why the Jobs Plan has dollars specifically committed to reconnect some of

the communities that were divided. Critics, though, slamming the secretary after he said Biden's infrastructure bill would address racism in highways. I guess now, according to Democrats, roads are now racist and you need to apologize for it. Roads can't be racist you can build racism into a road. Roads are made of sand and gravel and asphalt. Ask any road builder. Roads cannot be racist anymore than toasters or sectional couches

can be racist. They are inanimate objects. They're not alive. Okay, First of all, toasters can totally be racist. Yeah. I can't even count how many times I've put a piece of white bread into a toaster and it came out wearing black face. That ship it wasn't cool. But yes, Look, the idea that highways can be racist has completely blown the minds over at Fox and US and I get why, I get why, and I get white. Tuka is so puzzled by this. If highways were racist, then surely they

would have been a guest on his show. By now. It must be very confusing for him. But there is actually a real explanation for why Pete b is so mad about America's roads, And it's not just because he keeps failing his driver's head tests. No, there's another reason. So let's find out why. In another installment of If

you don't Know, Now you know. Highways. They are the vital arteries that criss cross America, helping the country's truckers transport goods, it's workers commute to and from the office, and it's O. J's flee the L A p D. What you may not know is that when America first started building its highway system back in the nineteen fifties, people were often forced to leave their homes to make room for all these fancy new roads. And guess which

people were moved the most. Yes. The Federal Aid Highway Act of nineteen fifty six was one of the largest public works projects in American history. It added forty one

miles to our interstate system. Pretty much every major setting in the country New York, d C. San Francisco, Philadelphia, you have major highways cutting through neighborhoods, requiring the demolition of lots of housing and other friends of buildings that the thinking about where they're going to rob highways and destroy neighborhoods, they invariably single out what they see is the worst neighborhoods in their communities. It became a pattern

in cities across the country. Poor and minority residents were displaced to make way for highways, and white residents used those highways to commute into the city for jobs and commute back home at nine. Planners had an uncanny ability to pick out the black neighborhoods. The route for ninety four in St. Paul displaced one in seven of the city's black residents. Very few blacks were living in Minnesota, one critic noted, but the road builders found them. Yeah,

that's right. Highway ninety four could have been anywhere in Minnesota, but it just happened to displace the very few black people living in Minnesota, more commonly known as the Minnesota timber Wolves. And look, don't get me wrong, don't get me wrong, these highways had to go somewhere. I'm not saying no highways, but more often than not, that's somewhere

was right through a black neighborhood. Because you see, rich white neighborhoods they didn't allow this to happen to them, But brown and black families didn't have any political power to stop it. I mean, what were they gonna do. Take to the streets. It was impossible. They hadn't been built yet. And look, black people are used to being displaced by gentrification even today. But at least when that happens, they get to enjoy shape check for a few months. First.

These highways, on the other hand, they didn't provide any improvement to the neighborhood. They slashed a hole through it, and whatever was left of that neighborhood just withered and died. From the beginning, the Rondo neighborhood was a haven for people of color. At its peak from the thirties to the fifties. It had black owned grocery stores, credit unions

from social clubs. During construction, from nineteen fifty six to nine, Rondo lotts seven hundred houses, three hundred businesses, and the population declined by In Florida, Overtown was the center of black Miami tour through the neighborhood, wiping out countless homes as well as its thriving business district. Kansas City, Chicago, Boston,

in Detroit, New York City, Montgomery, Los Angeles. The list goes on and on, and it's actually pretty heartbreaking to see how devastating these highways were for the black communities that they ran through. Streets that were once filled with black people are still empty to this day. And of course, of course, these communities crumbled once a highway ran through it, I mean highways. Think of all the things they bring.

Highways bring noise, they bring pollution, and if you're really unlucky spontaneous musical numbers, I'm trying to get to work. I mean, have you ever looked on the side of a highway and thought to yourself, Yeah, that looks like a nice place to live. No, you probably thought, I wonder if I can use the bathroom in that gas station without being murdered. And the fact that they destroyed black neighborhoods wasn't the only racist thing about how highways

were designed. You see, around the time the highways were being built, segregation laws were being struck down in America. But lucky for the racists, they didn't need the laws to enforce segregation because now the highways did it full them. Infrastructure didn't just break up black communities, it reinforced segregation. The Federal Housing Administration underwriting manual said an artificial barrier like a highway could protect a neighborhood from quote adverse

influences like quote inharmonious racial groups. They laid the interstate down right on the black white line cam and what that meant was that it made much harder to have school integration. I mean, you can have kids walking across

the interstate for heaven's sakes. A report from the Georgia Historical Society says that while deciding the route of I twenty, the Atlanta Bureau of Planning said it would be the boundary between white and African American communities because the highways in Atlanta were laid down primarily with regard to keeping the races apart, rather than keeping traffic moving efficiently. Uh, it laid them down a way that today traffic in

Atlanta is incredibly snarl. I twenty of zigzags from east to west and a route that makes no sense unless you know it was laid down with a desire to segregate. Man. Racism is a hell of a drug. I mean, think about it. Instead of designing the most efficient highway, they instead made it zigzag around the city like some kind of racist Mario Karts. Although if you if you're real about it, Mario Kott is pretty racist because in real life, when Italians get in a car accident, they don't yell

my mommy, I love the spaghetti. Do you have any insurance? Something new? You and guys, I don't know about you, but there is nobody that I hate more than I hate traffic, like I will literally shake hands with my worst enemy if it means I can get where I'm going thirty minutes faster. I'm still not friends with you, winter, but at least we're both gonna get home at five and I'll make the sun set at five. You so

much or can you turn on the A C please? So? Yes, highways might not be following black people around department stores or turning them down for long, but the way that highways were built in America was inarguably racist in ways that still affect American society to this day. And I know, like I know that people like Taker and Sean Hannity, they love to make it seem like talking about the racist history of highways means that you're somehow calling people

racist today because they still drive on those freeways. Why are you raised? No, No, that's not the case. Nobody's telling you to walk to your next family vacation. What we're saying is, if we can try to understand the history of how a thing came to be, then maybe we can figure out how to make it better when we build new roads in the future. And if you don't know now, you know all right when we come back, Dulce Sloan is going to get us in the mood

for Valentine's Day. Oh yeah, welcome back to the Daily Show. This Monday is Valentine's Day, the day that will be the reason couples break up six months from now. But for all the people up there who are already single, we turned to Dulce Sloan for a Valentine's Day episode of DULs saying, Hello, friends, I want to wish all the couples that happy Valentine's Day. I hope you all have a romantic key thing and your carriage ride around

the park is filled with horse park. I've been single for too long because you know, davy apps are digital dumpster diving. The only thing that's got me through it our romance novels. But not just any romance novel. I'm talking about the unsung heroines of the erotic, all the black women writing the best ones. For example, the Queen of Black historical romance, Beverly Jenkins. Just check out the passage from her novel Indigo, which I imagine has read

to me by Jesse Williams. She moved her hands over the strength of its back kissing him, flicking her tongue against the edges of his lips, experimenting with the boldness his passion that planted within her, while his hands beneath her gown toward lustily. No man had ever touched her this way. Damn. I remember the first time I read this. I felt right out of my chair. No, I slid out. I love how she was flicking her tongue against the

edges of his lips. Oh, you know, a writer is good if they make kissing sound sexy even when it's wrong, Like, don't be licking his lips. Get that poor man's some chapstick. Now. If you want to go a bit more all school in your romance, you can try Ruby Saunders. She was best known for a series following Nurse Marylyn Morgan and her steamy affairs with doctors. The series was coming at you with hot lines. Hank was standing behind her now and somehow his arms were around her waist. Hag pressed

close to him. She could feel his breath on the back of her neck. I won't hurt yunning, he murmured, as his arms tightened around her. They sank into the cushions together. Ship. Listen, everyone, knows that slinking into the cushion means good sex or your couch is too old. Either way, you're gonna be sow in the morning. By the way, we would never have known many of these authors if it wasn't for book publishers like Vivian Stevens.

She was groundbreaking, not just because she sought out writers of color who wrote about women with real depth, but also because she wasn't afraid to publish explicit sex scenes. She changed the game with her publishing company candle lights ecstasy, which is one of those terms that only belongs to the romance novel. If you combine candle light and ecstasy in real life, you're gonna lose your eyebrows. Steven's helped published great authors like Sandra Kit, who wrote love stories

featuring both black and white characters. So she referred to herself as a switch hitter, which I feel like means something different now is that when the dick is ambidextrous, like it can hold a pin with his left and it's right testicle. Anyway. One of Sandra Kid's greatest contributions was the novel Adam and Eva. This novel is about Eva dunking escaping the death of her husband, she takes a vacation to the Virgin Islands, and basically, by the

time she leaves, they just called the islands. What I like about Sandra's writing is how she evokes the physical sensation of sex and also the butts. Just check out this passage when Maxwell's other hand made a sensuous journey up the back of one five, causing a quaking through the center of her body as he pressed her buttocks to bring her against his distinct hard masculine form. She finally came to her senses, pulling her mouth away with

a gasp and turning completely within the circle of his arms. Yeah, dul Say finished, Well, I wasn't well. I guess that about wraps it up a book club. So when your single asks curled up with a book about people curling up with each other, make sure not to forget the black women that paved the way for you to hear lines in your head like this. They could resist each other no longer. She and her robe skin of glow lips pursed. He hovered above her, lustful, yeah firm, whispering

her name. Don't say right, dul Say, really did you write this? Don't great character. Did you go to acting school? No? Uh? Self talked? Okay, I see you. Thank you so much for that, dul say, all right, when we come back, I'll be talking to the woman who exposed Facebook's biggest secrets. You don't want to miss it. Welcome back to the Daily Show. My guest tonight is former Facebook product manager

turned whistleblower Francis Hoagan. She's here to talk about how Facebook prioritize as profits over public safety and teen mental health. Francis Haagan, Welcome to The Daily Show. Thank you, forting Um, your name isn't as big as the story that you really, I mean leaked to the world. You know a lot of people, you say, Francis, how gonna be like, who

is that? But then if you say to people, hey, remember how we all learned that Facebook and what social media is doing is essentially destroying teenagers brains and it's harming all of us. Yeah, that report happened because of you. So let's start with the question of why you've worked for Google, you worked for Pinterest, you've worked for Yelp, and yet you blew the whistle on Facebook. Why did you feel like, oh, this this is something I can't

sit on. So when I joined Facebook, I thought I was gonna work on misinformation in the United States, and I was surprised, and I actually I was charged with work on information out only outside the United States. And UM, like many people and many technologists, I had never really focused on Facebook's impact internationally. And very rapidly, UM I realized kind of the horrifying magnitude of the danger that

we were facing. That Facebook's algorithms give the most reached to the most extreme and divisive ideas, UM, and that that process is destabilizing some of the most fragile places in the world, like Ethiopia or what happened in me and more. You see when when when when you say that there were some people who are accepted immediately, and then there are some people be like, that's that's not true all. But I'm sure there are a lot of people who will say, well, but I mean, aren't they

always going to be extreme people in the world. You know, there's always somebody saying something. You know, Facebook themselves say they go like, hey, we're not We're not part of the problem. We're merely a platform that people put their views on. We are not part of the problem and you disagree with that. So let's imagine you had a relative who had particularly extreme ideas. You know, we often

say like the crazy uncle. Some of us have those, uh that person if there, if we're talking to them one on one, or we're talking to them at a family gathering. That scale allows for resolution of ideas. What's happening on Facebook right now is ideas that are the most able to elicitor reaction and the shortest path to a click is anger. Those get the most reach. And ideas that are more moderate or they try to bring us into synthesis or to to help us find a

middle path. Those aren't as likely to elicit a comment from you or elicit al and so Facebook doesn't give it as much distribution. So Facebook is essentially propelling certain ideas out there. So they may say with the platform, but really what they're also doing is they're advocating for certain viewpoints because they push those up, because those get people engaged and spinning in the cycle. So I think it's a thing where it's not they sit out and

go help, can we have more extreme ideas? I don't think that's what they're trying to do, but they do know that there are lots of solutions that are not about censorship. It's not about picking good or bad ideas or good or bad people. It's about how do we change the dynamics of these systems so that you could

have a good speech counter counter bad speech. How do we give those more of a loople say at the table, you know, it's it's interesting that you lay it out like this, because I remember talking to my friends about this, saying, have we become angry in the world? Have we become less able to have misunderstands? Because I because I sit with my friends and I go like, I don't agree on so many things with my friends, But I don't remember a time when that meant that I couldn't be

friends with them. In the world of social media right now, it feels like if I disagree with you on this, I disagree with you on everything. It seems like Facebook, if you disagree on this, we're gonna make or we're gonna find more ways to to to you know, to find way you disagree or how to make you disagree.

So some people have said this idea of like Facebook's always leoking for fault lines, right, So, so in a high quality piece of content is one that gets lots of engagement, and it turns out an angry common thread where you know, it causes us to reality each other that is viewed as a higher quality piece of content. And so you know, during COVID, I've had friends who wrote very long, thoughtful pieces that, when and digested lots of information, that's going to cause less knee jerk reaction

than something that really offends you. So mosques don't work. People are clicking on that. She's the thing about masks. We have to consider our society. What boom? Facebook not pushing that. So what's interesting, you know in everything that you've done is even though you're whistled blow, even though you came up with this information, you've never said I'm anti Facebook. You've never said shut Facebook down, You've never

said this thing needs to go away. What you're arguing for is we change our relationship with not just Facebook, but social media company as a whole. Explain what that means. So I found people talk with this idea of when you change our relationship with social media. It's more about like should we use our phone so much? But I'm I'm encouraging to have a conversation about what's our relationship

with companies or what's the company's relationships with us. Facebook knows that they have a level of um on accountability that's very different than either Google or your Apple or other big platforms, because in the case of Google, we can scrape, we download their results and analyze them and see if there are biases. In the case of the Apple, we can take apart the phones and put up YouTube video saying Apple phones do or don't work the way

they claim. But in case of Facebook, researchers and activists have been telling Facebook, hey, we have found all these examples. We think there's a pattern here. We think there's too much human trafficking, we think kids are suffering. And Facebook keeps coming back because they know no one can call them on it and saying that's just anecdotal, that's not real. But when you release the information, realized it wasn't anecdotal.

It was real because Facebook research, right. You see, Now this is interesting because this reminds me of the tobacco companies. It reminds us of the you know, the fossil fuel companies. They do the research, they find out something really bad and then I mean obviously they go like, we're not going to put this out there, but but we know one of the biggest things that's really gotten people worried is how social media affects younger brains. I mean, it

affects my brain. I'm I don't consider myself younger anymore. But young people are like, it seems like the highest at the highest risk. Yeah. Facebook internal research says that the highest rates of problematic use peak at age fourteen. So you're not allowed to be on the platform until you're thirteen, So I guess it takes little bit of

time to form that habit. But the largest fraction of any of those age cohorts they sampled, and they've been studies that have a hundred thousand people in them, because

they're not tiny studies. Um, they find that the largest fractions say, I can't control my usage and I know it's impacting my health, my employment, or my school is at age fourteen, and so there's a real thing where young people have both you know, they're struggling with issues in their life and they don't have the self control you and they say this, They say this to researchers, They say, I know this is making me feel bad

and I can't stop. I fear I'll be ostracized if I leave UM, and those factors mean it's not easy for kids just to walk away. Also not easy for people to understand how to how to fix it. You have lawmakers now who are trying to figure this thing out. Silicon Valley is way ahead of them, Like, way ahead of them lawmakers. You see these hearings, they'll be like, what if? What if my Facebook is an instant flap?

They don't understand what's happening. So how do we begin creating a world where we're not destroying the companies, but we're we're regulating them the way they should be. So the main thing I'm advocating for is around transparency because one of the problems today is because Facebook is the only one that holds the cards, like they can see, they can see whether or not they're holding a royal

flush or not what they claim. UM. We need to move to a world where we have more access to data, and that can be aggregate data can be privacy sensitive data. It doesn't have to you know, expose people. It's not. It's a false choice of privacy versus transparency. And once we have the ability to have conversations. We can stop talking about Boogemian social media, I see, and we can start having conversations on how do we solve these problems. I think what we what we need to do, and

this is why I'm going to spend two doing. Is we need to start organizing people like I want to plant a youth directed movement. Or we can begin putting pressure on Facebook to release this information, because I don't think Facebook is just going to do it automatically out of the goodness to its heart. We have to force them to and I think there's lots lots of opportunities where we can begin putting pressure on them, either socially

or financially. As a user of social media, as a person who speaks to all my friends on social media, I have my enemies on social media. I appreciate this conversation because I think if we're not careful, we end up in a world where we're all fighting really just because an algorithm is trying to make us fight. Half of those fights. I've noticed, even even with the show, if I say a thing on the show, this has been like the most interesting thing for me is depending

on what I say, Facebook different people. One time we had it on the show. Yeah, one time we had on the show where um, literally I'd laid out both arguments. I said, here's here's one way to see it, here's another way to see it. But then on Facebook, only one way waits to each group. Yeah, and I was I was fascinated by that because then people like, why didn't you say the other ways? Like, but that's exactly what I said. They're like, oh, well I didn't see that.

And then you realize, you know, so one thing that happens is, um, so let's say you take a video clip, so we'llso you have out of any given on your shows, people going up on YouTube, lots of different little chunks. People can receive those onto Facebook. Over and over again they do. And each time that enters into Facebook, you know,

someone posted to a group. Someone doesn't this, It enters into the network in a different way, and the algorithm begins picking up data on that and it says, oh, interesting, like these kinds of people engage these stone and so, And because it's entering from so many different points, it actually gets a chance to learn what kinds of people are communities and engages in most with and so that echo chamber is really like the algorithm pulls us towards comagene.

It's almost like Facebook knows that you react most to your neighbor when they play loud music. There's no reaction from you when your neighbors doing other things, But when your neighbor plays in out in music, that's when you react. Actually, Facebook, I'm just gonna it's even worse than that. Actually, so how's gonna be worse. Let's imagine there's music that you like, and the music you don't like, it actually knows you

really don't like I don't know, reggaeton or something. And one thing that it's really sad is one of the things that was in the documents is that people talk about, especially people from marginalized communities, that they will go and and correct people who are spreading um, you know, racist homophobic comments. And guess what now, Facebook knows you engage with those keywords, so they send you Yeah, I didn't know they were doing that. I don't do in purpose.

It's it's a it's a side effect. It's a side effect of the way the algorithm works. Yeah, so the algorithm is designed to get as much engagement as possible and then engagement. Unfortunately me, you're more likely there's a there's a car accident, I'm going to engage, yeah, or more of um. If they had an option of showing you a stream of different things, they know you GACA car accidents, so they show you word man. Yeah, this is hard because on the one hand, I go like, well,

I just stopped looking at coll accidence. But the brain is the brain. It's the brain. You know, if if all the AI is not intelligent, right, we all likes to say artificial intelligence, but people who actually study a called machine learning because it's not intelligent. It's just a health climber. It's optimizing and you know, think of all the different pieces of content you get exposed to. Uh, it's not trying to show you most extreme content. It happens to be to a fulfill its goal function and

mindlessly pushes you towards it. And so this is about Facebook making choices to not fix it. That Facebook has lots lons of options that don't feeling the machine run wild. They're machine real well, money money, that's what it is. Thank you so much for being here. This has really been in lifing. Good luck on the reci of your journey. Thank you so much. If you want to learn more about Francis's advocacy work, then you can go to Francis Hagen dot com. We're gonna take a quick break, but

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