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a fall my NFL player. He had to discuss his new memoir about what it means to him to be a man. Terry Crews is joining us. Everybody's fun. I'm hoping he's gonna teach me how to do make my chest do that thing. I'm gonna make my chest breakdowns. We've also got traffic with Roywood Jr. And the big news today, America is no longer in a pandemic. So
let's do this people, Let's jump straight into today's headlines. Okay, as you know, it has been nine weeks now since Vladimir Putin decided the best way to improve his international standing was to gently slide not into Ukraine's d MS, but into the entire Eastern region. And since then the whole world has been trying to figure out what to do. How do you respond to a madman who has nuclea weapons in his back pockets? And the world tried everything.
Tried sanctions, tried cutting off Putin from international trade, tried sucking his PlayStation profile so you couldn't play Fortnight. And now finally some countries have taken it to the next level, with Germany sending tanks to Ukraine, yeah, which the Russians have called a major escalation, and I'll be honest, I agree with Russia on that. It is an escalation. You know, whenever German tanks show up to anything, ship's about escalates.
German texts never show up and people are like, all right, his show now, yeah, you know what it's. It's like when a black woman takes off her ear rings. There's no way things are cooling down from there. Whatever you did wrong, you are about to pay. But Russia is also doing their own escalations by turning off some of Europe's heats overnight, a drastic move, Russia cutting all gas
deliveries to Bulgaria and Poland to NATO members. This comes after Putin's ultimatum last month demanding that quote unfriendly nations pay for gas and Russian rubles. Poland's prime minister not backing down, saying we will be able to protect our economy, protect our households and poles against such a dramatic step
by Russia. Bulgarian officials say they are working with state gas companies on alternative sources, while Poland says it has been working for years to produce its reliance on Russian gas and there wouldn't be a shortage of gas in Polish hounds. Things are getting tense. Yeah, Russia says no more gas for Poland than Bulgaria, and then response Poland Bagharia like screw you, we don't need your gas, we have our own. And then, just to prove the points,
Poland Bulgaria posted selfies of themselves surrounded by gas. Yeah, classic breakup behavior. But this is the thing that's gonna suck for Russia. Their main leverage is that their gas provides Europe's heat, But as the months get warm up, the negotiating power goes down. You know, it's the same way your gym teacher has all the power over YouTube make push ups like what you're gonna do during the school year, but let him meet you over the summer vacation and all of a sudden, it's like, you have
no power here, Mr Papadopoulos. Why don't you do whatsh ups? Bitch? He's like, I'll see you in September, but I'm here now. So you know what, good for Poland and Bulgaria because most European countries are still buying Putin's gas. Yeah, many of them say they can't help it, which you have to admit is a little weird. You know. It's like if the people of Gotham were obsessed with the Joker's taco truck. You know, it's like, look, I mean, this guy is definitely a super villain, but have you tried
his Alpa store? I mean, it is amazing. And here's the thing. So this is this is the thing. The underlying issue is a little more complicated than gas or no gas. Right. What happens is Russia wants to be paid for its gas in rubles, right, the Russian currency, Because that way European countries have to keep buying rubles, which keeps the currency alive. So I understand why Russia is so mad at getting paid in a currency that
they don't want. You know, Like, have you ever gotten a gift from like your little nephew that's like a coupon for one free hug? Yeah, I don't want that ship. I want cold, hot cash to me. Hugs always free? Are you stupid? Anyway, let's move on, Timmy pisces me off Man. For years, flight attendants in America have complained about well two things. One idiots who pressed the coal button when they meant to turn on the lights, and too the way they get paid. Well. Now, finally, Delta
Airlines is taking care of one of those issues. Flight attendants with Delta will soon be getting paid a little bit more money. The airline says it will now start paying cabin crews during boarding. Up until now, flight attendants did not start getting paid until the passengers were seated in the planes doors closed. That was the moment that
their pay started. Delta says the change will start June second, as the company faces the possibility if it's more than twenty thousand flight attendants forming their own union, the change could increase some attendance wages by several thousand dollars every year. Yeah, leave it or not. Flight attendants in America do not get paid during the boarding process, which is crazy. Just think about you're at work doing work, but your boss is like, Noah, this is your free time. What I
only pay you when the doors are closed. That's wild. It also sucks for flight attendants on Spirit Airlines because they don't even have doors. What do they do? Do they work for free? How does that should work? Because here's the thing, people, the boarding process is not easy. If anything, they should be getting paid extra for that part. You've got to deal with passengers who suddenly don't know how numbers work. Does twenty three come before twenty four?
And what number is jay? And then on top of that, they have to deal with out bags that never fits. And by the way, why do the bags never fits? No honest question, why do they never It's calling overhead back right, but it doesn't fit into the overhead? Why do they call it that? They shouldn't be allowed to sell it to You can call an overhead back when won't put into over Because now I'm the idiot blocking the traffic, and then like everyone's looking at me, no
one's getting paid. And I'm like, I swear there starts any word fit in the overhead. There's not even like you're an idiot. I'm not over and back. But no, they're gonna know that. That's what the fb I should be focusing on. That's the real crime. It sun your bag that makes me look like an idiot. By the way, did you notice how Delta suddenly said it was going to change this rule only after they learned that flights attendants are trying to form a union. Yeah, interesting timing.
It was like like that Margery Tailer green More. Ohh you mean that a union? Yeah? Yeah, yeah. Nothing scares these giant airlines more than unions. Like if someone yelled bomb in an airport and someone else yelled union, they honestly wouldn't know who to tackle first. And I'm gonna give these flights attendance a lot of credit because, let me tell you something, man, people fly all the time.
You see these people working hard. But I didn't know that they weren't getting paid while the player you did. I don't know that they're really patient people. If I was working for free during the whole boarding process, I would have been way less friendly than Yo. I would have been in that airport like Zoe one. Zone one. Get your hell up on the plane right now, Hungry, I'm trying to get paid. Move, move, move, move, move your dumb mass. Put the thing on the thing there man,
and I saw yo. I swear, I swear if any of you broke a zone four mins even trying to get in line right now, I will have the chance a water board your ass, get back zone four. Sit down. You know who he is if I find work in a thro All right, Finally, let's talk about COVID nineteen. It's the only one of us that's seen Kamala Harrison
like three months. As we all know, a little over two years ago, a bat in China didn't cover its mouth when it sneezed in a lab after visiting a food market, and that started a pandemic, and the world has never been the same. But now Anthony Fauci, America's most renowned infectious disease scientists and most ready for retirement human, has come out with some news that has left people shook.
Listen to this Dr Anthony Fauci telling PBS News that America is out of the pandemic phase We are certainly right now in this country out of the pandemic phase. Namely, we don't have nine thousand new infections a day in tens and tens and tens of thousands of hospitalizations and thousands of debts. We are at a low level right now. We're not going to eradicate this virus if we can
keep that level very low and intimately vaccinate people. And I don't know how often that would have to be, but right now we are not in the pandemic phase in this country, the pandemic phase. Ten. I'm happy you're vobing. Man. Oh man, I've been waiting for this moment since much of Do the balloon drop here? Oh? Oh wait? These are oh man? Are They're supposed to be like fully inflated, but I we blew them up in April. We thought it was only gonna be a few weeks. But I guess, uh,
things are tough. It's just like this little inside these things still inside. Yeah, yeah, what is that COVID anyway? But yeah, Fauci says America is no longer in a pandemic phase, which is cool. But don't let these balloons fool you. It doesn't mean we're out of the pandemic. A lot of people actually misinterpreted this news today. They were like, the pandemic is over. Time to tongue kiss my grandmother again. Man, time to tongue kiss my grandside again.
Are a very loving family. But that's not what this means. What Faucci was saying is that America is currently not in a pandemic phase, as in, not in a pandemic right now, but it's not over. It could come back, or it could go away. But it could come back or go you don't know. Yeah, it's a phase. It's sort of like wide legged jeans. They disappeared for twenty years and now suddenly everyone looks like that's to borrow
a pair of pants from shack. You know. But as much as you want to get angry at people, here's the thing, Dr Fauci, How did you not know? How do you not know? By now? How stupid people are? Huh, We're all stupid. You can't just say pandemic phases over. Oh when you say that, oh, we here is party time. I feel like that's been the major failure of this pandemic is that the scientists have been communicating directly with the public without somebody to interpret what they say. That's
bound to cause chaos. Right, we don't understand scientists speak. It's the reason God didn't speak that reckon to the people. He always went through a messenger. You know. He was like, Noah, soon I will purge the learned of all certain and vice. So henceforth abundance may spring forth. And whence there was squalor, things won't change. And no I was like a gotcha, hey, yo, grab a giraffe. Shit's about to get wet. Now we understand.
All right, that's it for the headlines. But before we go, let's check in on the traffic with our very own Why would junior? Everybody is why? Why? Why am I here again? What do you mean? What do you mean? Why you hear from the traff yesterday? I did the traffic yesterday. Why don't I do it again? Because there's there's traffic every day? You think it's a strange. I didn't know that I have to do this every day. I said I would do it, but I just thought
it would be once a week. I didn't notice nothing. What are you? What are you saying about? Every day? Come to work everyday? Tape ship I was not, Roy, can you just tell us what the traffic is playing? But before the traffic man, this this flight attended thing and the whole COVID in the fauci, I think we should still be wearing the mask on the planes because but I just I hate the fact that flight attendants
was getting beat up over a mask. You're supposed to be fighting drunk passengers, not these people wearing a mask. I hear you that. That's and also part of why people be challenging flight of tendency. Nobody thinks about this, Trevor. It's the uniform. The uniform does not command authority. The flight attendant uniform. They all are wearing a vest and a stupid hat. Nobody. You don't respect a vest, name
of job and a vest you respect. You have blackjack, dealer, you got magician, you got crossing guard at a school, church, usher, male stre if. These are all punchable people. These are people you can punch in the face. Like you cannot dress in a vest and expect people to respect you. To flight attendant, if they really want something but they need to be fighting for is a new uniform. They need to put on some of that black leather like them bounces, them leather and some of them them shades.
And get your an earpiece because like when you wear an earpiece, everybody knows that you're talking to another person on the airpiece who can also come up your ass. It makes you act right. You see the airpiece like, oh you got other ass whoopers on the other end of that airpiece. That's the thing, man, What's what's happening in the in the in the in the traffic. Here's here's the thing about COVID man, Well, get to that man. Just like I'm happy that some of the restrictions are
being you know, rolled back. I'm happy for that, but it's a lot of stuff that they got that they still doing that they don't really have to do. Number. Do you still need a QR code on the menu? Do you need a little square to figure who? I'm gonna scan them? And you bring me some paper. I'm an American. Bring me a sticky piece of laminated to ask paper sign figure out what the hell I want to eat? Just bother you gest because you get distracted.
You don't focus when you scan your phone and you're looking at the food and porn hub notifications to popping up and the text can you can you go? Why do you get notifications from porn hull? You gotta you gotta know when the new ship dropped. You don't know. I'm tired of the elbow bump. Let's get rid of that. Why is anybody even going on the elbow bump? I can tell you do? You don't think we need to with the stickers, the stickers. There's just six ft stickers
in the grocery store. Do we still need that? Do you still? Do you not know what six ft is? That there's pop scotching from sticker to sticker around the damn store. Just get rid of that. To tell Founty, I know you got his number, So let's say I'll tell Fauchi if you tell me what the traffic is? Please? Why do I have to do traffic? What do you mean? Why w what always traffic? Like? I could be doing so many other They like what I could do cooking, I could do what we could sit up a little
table and the crop pot I can do. I can do the animals. Let me be an animal man and bring a little the cuddly animals a lifestyle. Don't don't encourage him, he usked me. I said, we're going back to the studio. I said, what do you think about doing traffic? And you were like, I would love to do the traffic. Uh. I didn't know that I would have to do it every I didn't know that I would have to like research and like investigate and figure out the traffic everything. What do you mean you don't
you don't have to research to do traffic? Oh that traffic bad back to you. Thank you so much for that, Roy with Junia. All right, stick around, there's more Daddy Show coming up. Right after this. I could just tell welcome back to the day show. If you are a black person in America, you have probably come face to face with a Karen at some point in your life. But what if you could harness the power of Karen's
for good? Well maybe you can. It's the year two and black people have had enough of getting the cops called on that. In a secret laboratory under one Street, one scientist works tirelessly to create a new super weapon, one that will give white people a taste of what black people have to go through on a daily basis. The last time to car, some cops squirts, Oh my gosh, please do I had a great day for some barbecue that we gonna call this garbage. I'm calling the police.
What we're not doing anything wrong? Hello, police? Yes, I like the reports and white people with some nasty ass food. There's us. The lions are on the mac and cheese, a slurry of sausa, and the chicken is just wet, not juicy, just wet. And what these oh mushroom kebab's they're vegan. Bring the swat team. We're gonna need back up and a stomach pump. Oh, you can't be kissing that dog on the mouth. Hasn't that rescue been throwing off?
Oh he's not a rescue. I only by You need to stop flabbering on his animal before you make COVID thirty three. Give us along. We're not harming anyone. You're assulting me. I'm not assaulting you. I'm just telling you to my your own business. That's the same thing to a Karen. Hello. Believe yes, someone on puppet top RECs come of right at me. You guys always do this to me. I'm gonna do it. Maybe you have heard this little dutty hit it. I'm not letting you, but
your sweet Caroline, you don't even know. That's what I was gonna sing. You're white and you're drunk. What else are you gonna sing? Why? I'm gonna have to report this for what? Seeing Karen's not a crime? It if it's bad nut saying sweet hello Polly. These Caucasians are at it again. What are you doing in this expensive boutique? What are you doing on the jewelry in your person? With a price? Tax? Alot him? Go lo lo, God, this's a bullshit you call cops? Are your cap y?
What did you do for being a mad scientist? I was selling bootleg DVDs. People still about DVDs be surprised. Thank you so much for let's go say startmar When we come back, Terry Crews is joining me on the show Go Away. Welcome back to the Daily Show. My guest tonight is an actor and the host of America's Got Talent. He's here to talk about his latest book, Tough My Journey to True Power. Please welcome Terry Crews. H m hm oh. I'm gonna show you how to
do it. You're doing it right now. I'm gonna show you how to do it. It looks like you've got like six cell phones in your jacket and we were ringing at the same time, just doing a Dude, I'm so good. It has been a long time since I last saw you. You know, it's been a whole pandemic between everything you've gone through. You wrote another book. Congratulations on that, Tough My Journey to True Power. So when I when I heard about the book, I was like,
Tough my Journey to True Powers. Like, oh, Terry's writing it's like a weightlifting book. I figured it was just gonna be about the muscles and everything, and yet there's basically nothing. It's it seems like this whole book is about you emotionally weightlifting. Yes, yes, I had to redefine what tough was in my life, you know what I mean. As as a kid, I mean, first of all, I was filled with rage. And I'm gonna start at the
beginning just a little bit. Because my father was an alcoholic and he was addicted to alcohol and my mother was addicted to religion, which created a really toxic relationship. And at five years old, I grew up watching my father not my mother out on the regular um and it was something that changed me. I mean, my whole thing. When I saw him do that, I was like, hey, man, it's your world, this, it's your way on the highway.
And I learned that that was the only way to be a man um and it was through rage, and it was I would rather be beared than loved. And it got me a lot. I mean, I lived my life like it was a revenge movie. Okay, and a lot of people see me now, you know as the way it's so funny and so great and the whole thing. But but this is the thing, man, I I was filled with rage, and I mean I used to snap on people. I read that in the book and I'm
not even joked. Like in the first, let's say quarter of the books, I was like, I'm scared to have Terry on the show, because you like, in the book you talk about this this journey, you know, when you talk about young Terry, you know, and I like, it's
like there's multiple Terries in this book. In your in your story, you talk about young Terry and you talk about your dad is old Terry, Big Terry, and you know, you talk about the terror in the field, but also the rage that you felt it being unable to protect your mom, unable to protect the house, and you were scared. But then it gets to a part of the book where one day you you developed enough and you you
beat your father like I got him. And this was so wild because you know, growing up in that kind of household, with the intense alcohol and religion and the whole thing, I became a pleaser. I became a searcher for I wanted approval and I was addicted to approval. And the thing is is that if I didn't get it, it was it was one of those things that would
make me very, very, you know, angry. And but one thing that I discovered once by the time I became an adult, and I said, you know, I knew I needed to get strong because one day I would have to kill my father. I was the vision that I always had in my head because he was such a terror. And one day he I mean and as a grown man. I was thirty years old, and I remember we called it the Christmas Christmas from Hell, and I get a
little emotional thinking about it. But I took my family home for Christmas and he told me that he was going to behave and I said, cool, because they hadn't been around and my kids had never been raised with any domestic violence, and me and my wife go out and he decides he's gonna hit my mother in the mouth. And what was crazy? I get a call. We're on the road, were brought to go to dinner, and my mother, my aunt calls me and says, your mother just got
hit in the mouth. Her tooth is sideways. Man. I turned the car around and I told him get everybody out of the house and just leave us alone. And I went and I confronted him and I said, hey, man, what are you doing. You promised And he said, oh, man, get out of here. Man and bow and I hit this man. I don't know how long it was. I know I beat him from downstairs all the way up to his room. He's bleeding, he's he's screaming, and I all I can think about is this is revenge. This
is what I always wanted. This is what you made us go through. This is the revenge. This is gonna fulfill every dream, every fantasy, everything is gonna be in this moment. And I felt nothing. You talk about that, it's it's a savery moment where you you're wailing on him and then you cry at the end. Of it, and you felt even emptier than when that moment started. You didn't feel powerful, you didn't feel you didn't get the revenge that you thought you were gonna get. You
can get the closure. I did it, And I'm like, this is supposed to be the end of the movie. Did you know at that moment that Terry had anger issues or did you think that was an isolated incidence. No? No, My wife was telling me the whole time. She's like, you got you are really angry, And I'm like, what do you mean I'm angry? You know I'm getting angry and you're telling me I'm angry and I never saw it. You understand. It's something that's so imperceptible because you have
it tied in with your manhood. This is something that's tied into you and you go, hey, man, this is what you do somebody. I remember when one man disrespected my wife. I picked him up, put him on his head on the concrete and I'm and my wife is like, no, you have to promise me you will never ever do this again. And I'm like, but I have to. This is what I'm supposed to do this man, this is what I'm put on earth to do? How did you How did you change that? That's what I want to know.
Like people talk about the change, but how do you
change that? How does Terry go from being the person who snaps, the person who's angry, the person who proves himself of the person who says, I'm not going to react Because I'll jump to another part in the book that some people know about as a story, but you you've never told it in in as much depth if you hasn't as you have in the book, is the now infamous story where you are in a Hollywood You had a Hollywood party and one of the most powerful agents in the business is there and he comes up
and he grabs your crotch, you know, and at first you're like, oh, was that a mistake? What's going on? And he laughs and he grabs your crotch again in front of everybody, and he just laughs it off and you didn't do anything. And the irony of the whole thing is then people online were like, man, Terry Crews, you're gonna have all those muscles and you're gonna do ship and someone grabs your dick, You're not gonna punch
you bo. You know what I mean, and then they're like with these fake muscles and inflatable muscles, people roasting you. But you talk about in the book how you didn't want to do anything. Explain to me how that change comes about? What? What? What? What shifts in your perspective. First of all, it was and I had already been
through seven years of therapy. Um my wife left me. Um. First of all, I had an addiction to pornography, I had anger, I had all kinds of stuff, and she was like, you know what I'm done, And this is the thing. I was very successful, you know what I mean? Like I mean, I had movies and TV and everybody knew who I was and and my trick to life was fake it till you make it. But the problem is you make it and you're fake, You're still fake. It was an image. It was the Terry Crew's image
is what everybody fell in love with. And my wife ended up married to that image. But the real me was still messed up, broken, and when she left me, it was the highlight. It was like wait a minute. And first I was like, go ahead, I'm Terry Crews too, Go get me another woman. And it was so stupid because I heard myself talking like this, and I went, maybe it's me. Maybe it is me. And dude, you gotta understand. I got the best advice I ever received
in my ENTI your life. A friend of mine said, hey, man, I can't promise you you're gonna get your wife and family back, but you have to get better for you now my whole life. Therapy, especially in in male culture, in black culture, therapy was looked at as quackery. I mean, they was like, you can't care crazy, you know, and that was that was saying a lot, you know. Uh. In fact, my father went to go see a psychologist for his alcoholism. The psychologist killed himself a week later,
and I was like, oh that don't work. Damn, I'm going what But this was the thing. I'm at rock bottom, I have nothing, And that was the D day and I went to therapy and I discovered this anger and where it was coming from, and this this you know, this need for people's approval that would send me through the roof, that would make me a high achiever. You understand, I mean, like you will. Yeah, that's where the success comes from. But the disapproval brought the rage. So now
Terry Crews has this rage, he's working on it. He goes to therapy. Sometimes I feel like what happens to people, though, is they don't understand that anger is a natural part of being a human being, and so when they come out, they go, now, I have no anger. The universe is my spirit. And so now, how do you deal with anger? How do you like, everyone gets angry? How do you now deal with What did you learn as a healthy outlet for your anger? First of all, yeah, I did
come out like that. The first year. I was like piece to everyone, and it was the baddest acting I ever did, like set your ass down, piece of love. You know. It was bad, Yes, it was hard, right, but I actually got to understand remember, now this is the whole thing you can You can be angry and sin not. It's a it's a biblical phrase. And the whole thing was righteous. Anger is a good thing. And it was about accountability. Holding people accountable is how you
deal with your anger. It's like there's a legal way to do everything. My answer to everything before was like playing chess, turn over the chessboard, like if I can't get a problem, And what I learned was wait, wait, wait, wait, I gotta use wisdom here. I have to figure out this problem. Maybe going backward, I can go forward two steps. And all of a sudden, my my, everything about the energy towards anyone that I was angry at was a thoughtful,
methodical move. And this is what I did with adham En. It It was it changed everything because I knew because my wife had made me promise too. She was like, don't you ever do and I was like, yeah, problem, but that was the test. And I remember taking her hand and we went into the car and I drove home and I mind you, my first mindset was to drive back through the club and like terminator and you know I was going to do it. But I went home. But you gotta understand this, because this is the support
that I had. The whole time I was driving home. My wife said, I'm proud of you, Terry. I'm proud of you because she saw me throwing people around. She's seen it, and she was like, I'm so proud of you. That support that said I'm doing this right, I'm doing this right. And then I went legal and I went to the head of William Morris Endeavor and I said, what are you gonna do about this predator that you
have running in your hallways. And they were like, well, you know, he's the big man, so we can't do anything. And I was like, hell no, I said, dude, you work for me. And he laughed. He laughed in my face, and I said, wow, okay, And you know what, it made me more emboldened and I got stronger, and I went like, all right, you want to play this game, We're gonna play it. We're gonna play it all the
way out. And what happened is quiet has kept. Other people joined my case because you don't rob the biggest bank in the you know, in the state right now, you always dropped little banks. And what was happening is there was little There were all these other people that came out. They said, hey, man, he did the same thing to me, and they joined my case. And he was like, oh, white black, I'm out of here. I'm
going to retire. And I didn't want any money. I just said, man, you cannot molest the clients and go back to work. That's all I said, dude, that's all I wanted. You cannot do it and you can't go back to work. And he's out and he's out and this is the thing, checkmate, so so so great. I remember that moment distinctly because you you know, you came out the me too movement was happening. You know, you
spoke about your case. People were shocked, and you know, and a lot of men were emboldened to say like, hey, I've also had this issue. And yes, you know, statistically men on miniscule compared to women. But it was an interesting story that that gave a fuller complexity to what we're trying to get rid of in society. People loved you that Terry Crews on Twitter. It was amazing, And then you talk about this in the book. A few years after that, Terry Crews on Twitter became one of
the most hated individuals. Almost overnight. It was people like, he's a cool he's he betrayed black people, he was and it all came around Black lives matter. That's what That's what came around was Black lives matter. And you said something and I paraphrase it, you know, because in the in the in the book, you talking and you lay out the tweet was where you say, you know, essentially, I don't want white supremacy the same way don't want black supremacy. I want us to all be equal as people.
People were like, oh, really, Terry black supremacy, and I mean, they tore into you. But in the book you talk about how you didn't even know that that was a talking point some people use. And secondly, you weren't trying to say what people thought. You were trying to say, right, well, this is the thing. Black supremacy has nothing to do with white people. When I was in Michigan, the drug dealer was a black supremaciy the gang member I was scared of, and we could not move around. What's the
black supremacists? And what I meant was, it's this whole thing. If we don't start this movement with the idea of reconciliation, we are just postponing a greater war. And my whole thing is I didn't hear a lot of reconciliation because reconciliation doesn't mean agreement, you know what I mean. It's one of those things. I want to bring this up because there's a story about the wisest man in the world. It was Solomon and two women came to them and they brought a baby, and they said, we have this
baby and the baby is mine. And so Solomon, the wisest man says, Okay, what we're gonna do is cut the baby in half and I'll give you a half of the baby and you get the other half. And one woman said, yes, that's the way we do it. But the other woman said, no, no, say this baby. No, in fact, give it to her. Give it to her. He said, that's the moment. That's reconciliation. It doesn't mean you get the result you want. It means you're saving
it because dividing it is going to kill it. And when I look at America, dividing it is going to kill it. And the whole thing is reconciled. We have to reconcile. We have to white and black, male and female, Republican Democrat. We have to find a way to reconcile or we're going to kill what we have. It's beautiful as a thought, and I agree with it. I think the issue, yeah, I think the issue some people had, you know, is reconciliation cannot take place before there's any
type of accountability. In order for us to reconcile, there has to be some sort of accountability. People have to say this is what is happening, and this is what we're going to do to rectify that situation. Just like you talked about reconciling with your wife. You know, in order for you, guys to reconcile, you had to fix, you had to acknowledge, you had to say, I have a problem. And I think what a lot of people thought in that moment is they felt like I understand
when reading the book. Now you you are saying something that, in my honest opinion, is almost a step ahead. But people are going, yeah, a terry right now, we're looking for accountability first. Right now, Black people in America are saying, hey, can we just have an agreement on how America does not treat everybody equally? You know, we don't want everyone to be treated equally badly, We want everyone to be
treated equally. You know, I totally agree. And it felt like to some people you had you had skipped, you were just like, guys, guys, yeah, so I'll just be together. I totally and I totally understand that. But this is another thing, and I agree, and you can't have a nuanced conversation on Twitter. Oh yeah, that's the biggest That was the first with any accident that was it just
that was maybe one of my favorite books. When you talk about because you tweeted that, and you can tell when someone's things they got swagging and tweet you were like, letna tell you something, what we need to supremacy, black spy all come together band. Yeah, you know you made an killed believe you me. I went, oh, no, trending, that's not what's going on. You know what I mean.
But but but you can't have that. I totally understand that, um, and I think you're right, and I know you're right, and I actually one of my things was, it's just when I know my people and I love my people. And the big thing was black people need to hold other black people accountable, which see because accountability right, and we do and we do and I'm not saying we don't.
But but my thing is as a black man and as a man who had been in these kind of situations, UM, I just knew that it needed to be said by someone like me in order because my thing is I just wanted peace, and I guess it goes back to my approval. It goes back to my need for approval. It went back to that. UM. And again it was a mistake. It was. It was a mistake to tweet that out at that time. And that was the thing.
Funny enough, because you know, Martin Luther King Jr. Has talked about black supremacist Nelson Mandela himself was one of the people who said, I don't look for the oppression of white people. I don't look for the oppression of back people. I don't want anybody to be oppressed. Right. But the timing I think was this, Yeah, it was you. I say that in the book. Yeah, you were going, that's not what I was trying to do. And I think, you know, this is one of those moments where I
was like, that's why books over tweets. It is no, it is the book. You made it out. You're a human being. Were all mist understand each other. I honestly I appreciated your just like your vulnerability, your your your ability to say this is where I messed up. This is what I was trying to say. Because I was reading it, I was going like, man, I was like, why did you send the tweeting? Why did you trust Twitter? It doesn't try to understand you, does it. It does?
You know? And I, first of all, I learned my lesson Big Time first of all. But but I do feel like again because of this need for approval that I was addicted to. Um, it's it's a matter of also exercising the will to take disapproval. You understand what I mean? Where really sometimes standing up for the right thing, not everyone is going to like you. And and again, I still know who I am. But at the same time, I mean, I would never ever tweet again, to be honest,
it's all gonna be cat videos and promotional uh. And I again I and I really, I mean, even on this show right now. And I'm gonna let you know, I really do want to apologize to anybody who was offended by these tweets and was hurt deeply because as an example, as a as an African American man, a black man here in this country, I did not want to give the perception that we're supposed to gloss this over and and forget the death of George Floyd, the
murder of George Floyd. And I want to apologize to everyone right now who was ever offended because it hurt and and even back when I was trying to explain, it just got worse and words and this is where the book came in because the need is for us as a people to actually come together and really really be what we need to be to this country, because this is our country. This is our country. We die and bought and I'm not giving it away. This is our inheritance. I love you, push for real, you know,
thank you? No, no, no what what I what I always say to people is find a person who has tweeted. You will find somebody who has messed up, and you will find someone who's been misinterpreted. Thank you so much. Thanks, We're ready, Thanks Harry. Book My Journey for Two Powers available Now we're gonna take a pick break. Well, be right back after this. I'm got's our show with Tonight's. But before we go, today is Holocaust Remembrance today, so
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