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I got to meet a lot. So this couple, you've been married forty four stand up, stand up, you've been married fifty four years. Oh look, he got it right now. That is a long time. And you said the key to love, the key to it is is what pacis. That's the wrong. And she's supposed to say that, you're supposed to say love, and you said, and you say,
it's what madly in love? Alright, alright, I uh, I'm gonna have something nice for you guys, but only half of it, because you know, thank y'all for coming out. I appreciate that. Um. We we have a great show for your night. So we've gotta get into the headlines. This is a crazy story from California where a dad he drove his whole family off a cliff in a Tesla, so fortunately they all survived. When the paramids arrived, the wife said that he did it on purpose. Now I've
been here for thirty years. I can tell you I love my wife and children very much, and I would never drive them off a cliff. But I thought about it. I thought about it. Anybody who's been in the car with screaming as kids in a cliff available, Either you thought about it or you're lying. Look at him. I thought about it, but I was patient. Kids will drive you. You asked me about that back room. One more damn time,
we're going off the cliff. I swear even the drug will be like, we'll be defender, I mean hero, I mean defendant, all right. What I don't understand is how tesla cansvibe going off a cliff, but it came making down the street without blowing the filp. I don't understand that. But now we're gonna move on to the dumpsterfire that it's Fox News. Now you have got to hear the latest thing they're talking about. When it comes to police shooting black people. Many on the left know just who
to blame and want to blame white supremacy. Here's something that will be The ladies of the View apparently don't know. White people do get beaten by the police. In fact, far more white people are killed every year by cops than any other race. According to an online organization that tracts this data, three seventy four white Americans died during police altercations in two If you average that out a little more than one per day. Um, I don't know if the ladies of the View know any of the
names of the people. There seventy four people. So based on both academic studies and actual data, there is no systemic racism in policing. It doesn't exist. Of course, they are good cops, and I would say that's a vast overwhelming majority, and there is a small majority of bad cops. He said, it's small majority of bad cops. Now, that
is a Freudian slip for your ass one. Um, obviously, it wouldn't be surprising that police kill more white people than black people because they're way more of them, way more. That's like more white people die in NASCAR races than black people. Of course, Hey, somebody check on Bubba Wallace, make sure he alright, makes sure we got mad because but Sean is right, the police do need to stop killing white people too. Welcome to the struggle with my brother.
But he's like the white Al Sharpton. It's great, um. And finally hears the story about why you should always keep your eye on your children. Meet Mason stone House, the six year old with a big appetite this past Saturday before his bedtime, eating the phone to play. And I wasn't paying attention. I was watching my show. But Mason wasn't playing a game. He was scrolling through the grub Hub app. What Dad didn't know is that Mason was actually placing order after order, and all those orders
were being filled a parade of food delivery. The total damage nearly one thousand dollars, helped by Mason's generous spirit. And then he tipped on every single order. And that is why you drove your family off. For Cliff, that love. It is only a father would leave a kid and attended that long like man would never have with a mother.
You ordered a thousand bottle with the food. He shouldn't be glad that he didn't open your brows in the history out of game A thousand dollars to keep that quiet list, you're gonna have all the foods you wanna do. Tell your mom for more where join? But do say, Sloan Goosey, what do you think about this whole rub ub history thing. Well, I'll tell you one thing. This would never happen with a black family. If a black child spent a thousand dollars on his father's phone, there
wouldn't be any heartwarming news story about it. That thousand dollars worth of food would be served at that child's funeral. You never have it a little way again, unless there are some white woman talking about him on a true crime podcast. Dad a thousand dollars on my phone where I pay rent. He's dead. He's dead. So why do you think it was so lucky? I mean, listen, he was lucky, but also he needed to learn not to be so greedy. Okay, he was lucky because it was
a white child, right. And the thing is he didn't have to order a thousand dollars worth of food all at once. No, oh, little man, you're supposed to order it a little bit every night, right, And then you keep this scam going for years, like you don't walk into a local grocery store with a gun's blazing. No no, no, no no, you just forget to have the scam half the ship at the self check out. But you gottamit this at a happy and he grab grab Hub refunded all the money. What do you mean? Rob Hub gave
them all of the money back, refunded it all. Grab rob gave him a thousand dollars back. The hell that wouldn't give me seven dollars back with him driving out of my French fries. Do you know how hard I'd have to work to get a thousand dollars back from grab Hub. I'd have to start a hashtag to be trending on black Twitter called an N double a CP have a sitting at the grab hub headquarters with the ghost of Martin Luther cave a thousand dollars back. But listen,
I wait a minute, I gotta do all this. I see never a baby. Yeah, it has a baby's perfect Yet why do you need to have a baby? Well one, because I looked like a mother three since I was fifteen. Hey man, listen, I started high school with decup titties that should have been way more stupid. Boys respected me too, because kids are an ultimate loophole for stealing ship. Just pretend the baby did it. You're gonna get it for free. Like, oh no, did my sweet baby boy crawl across my
keyboard and order another channel? Back your little scalp. Somebody gonna get this baby. What if the baby snitches on you? First of all, my baby don't know better. Okay, but I look like having a snitch And ask baby crazy Joe. Who's gonna believe him? He's a baby. It's his words against mine. He only knows the story of them. Mama's not home, okay, Ship, mommy didn't do it. Come on, Plus, babies don't have object permanence. Okay, how's he gonna snitch
on me? After I stopped existed? Where's mommy? Mommy's not home? Who got mommy? And chanel bag? That that would work for a little while, But obviously the baby is going to be an adult, and then what would you do? Didn't they get their own baby? And then that's how you build generational wealth. Now that that's a plan, don't say slow on everybody. When we come back, let me talk about how rapping can land you in prison, so
you don't want to go away. Well, it comes back to the Daily Show now right now in Atlanta, the rapper Young Thug is on trial for gang activities, and it is not without controversy. Atlanta rappers Gunna and Young Thug responsible for dozens of chart topping hits. They find themselves at the center of a controversial debate in court. Should rap lyrics be used as evidence in the courtroom? The rappers lyrics one piece of evidence prosecutors are using
in the indictment. The prosecution citing lyrics like that in the indictment as proof of criminal conspiracy. The district attorney believes he is the ringleader of the y c L gang and his lyrics are fair game. I think if you decide to admit your crimes over a beat, I'm gonna use it. Yeah. That sounds like every mama I've ever seen in my life. F y young people, when your name is Young Thug, are gonna You're gonna go to jail? Yeah, mumble rapper, But they heard him clearly
on that wire tap. I know that the issue is should prosecutors use rap lyrics in criminal trials? That's what I want to talk about tonight in our segment long story short Well, since the nineties, prosecutors have used lyrics as evidence against indefendants in more than over five hundred trials. But don't get me wrong. If you rap about something you did do, well, that's a confession. If you rap
about something you didn't do that is artistic expression. And here are just a few examples of ways rappers lyrics get used in court. A rapper named Terence Hatch, known as Little Busy, was trying for first degree murder. Prosecutors argued that a few cryptic words of one rap song were in fact a confession. Rapper McKinley Fipps was sentenced to thirty years in prison for manslaughter. Prosecutors presented splice together lyrics from two different songs as evidence at his trial.
Police say Antoine Stewart, a rapper who goes by the name Twain Gotti, made a big mistake when he recorded the song right out. Police believe Stewart braggs through his lyrics about how he killed Brian Dean and Christopher Horton. Listen, everybody saw nobody saw Some of the details match the shooting happened on a porch. No witnesses immediately came forward, but others don't. The time of day is wrong, there wasn't a stabbing, the caliber of the gun is wrong,
and there's only one victim mentioned not too. Based largely on that rap and on the accounts of two witnesses given years after the shooting, the rapper was arrested and charged with double murder. Okay, they got the gun wrong, they got the stabbing wrong, they got the number of victims wrong. The only thing they got right was the porch. And every black person I know got a goddamn porch. I mean, and by the way, not everything black people
saying songs. It's true, like Bob Marley, he didn't actually shoot the sheriff. He just wanted you to think he did. Said y'all wouldn't put him. That's it, sir, mix a lot. You don't like big butts, no being more of a boo God, trust me. And I'm a comedian. I never in my life seem to wrap I and the priest walking to a damn bar. I've never seen that. Art is an expression. They use this to reflect black life in America, and now they're being punished for it, but
some prosecutors say too bad. David Lebon is a former gang prosecutor. He's now the CEO of the Association of Prosecuting Attorneys. I would say, you can't have it both ways. I cannot say that I'm rapping about stuff because this is what I live in and this is what I see every day, and then come into court and say everything that I said in that rap is completely untrue. You can have it both ways. It's called fiction. And if they they have a whole section in Barns and Nobles,
read a book, bitch. I don't even think that prosecutors think their lyrics are confession. They just do it because it works, and it works because juries are made of people, and people are kind of racist. As a matter of fact, In a recent study, people were given identical lyrics and told that they either came from country artists or rap artists or heavy metal artists, and surprise, surprise, people were more likely to think that rap lyrics were written by
a criminal. Clearly, rap is just code for black persons. Country is COVID, white person and heavy metalists covia. Who knows. I don't know what that is, but there's violence in almost every art form, but the one with young black rappers is the only one that gets treated this way. And this isn't even hypothetical. There was a white woman on trial for murdering her husband and she had written
an essay called how to Murder Your Husband? And guess what the judge he wouldn't allow the essay to be read in court because he said it could prejudice the jury. She luck, she lucky Dr Dre didn't write the forward. And I agree with that judge. It does prejudice the jury. The worst part about all of this is that rappers have to listen to their lyrics butchered in court by
people with no flow at all. Hey, this is that slime ship, Hey y and Cell Ship Hey Killing twelve Ship murder Gang bitch Y and Cell until We're dead and Pale. I never killed anybody, but I got something to do with that body ready for war like I'm Russia, slime ball Like yeah, yeah, y'ah, why I lie? I got mob tized And y'all thought Nick Cannon couldn't wrap.
So look, there're a whole lot of problems with the justice system in America, but this is an easy fixed, long story short, just stop using lyrics in court that Ryan, but don't use it against me. I was just kidding around. Stay tuned because when we come back, I'm gonna be talking about this issue with a rapper whose lyrics got him sent to prison when I come back to the baby.
So now my next best tonight is a rappers put him in prison for twenty one years, but he recently put out a new album called Son of the City. Please welcome Mac Phipps. It must be it must be weird to see the very thing you were convicted of a long time ago being in the headlines again. Huh yeah, and this time with another rapper. I know you're glad about that part. That's that. That's pretty it ain't you. Um? You remember with lyrics word that they used to send
you to to send your prison, to send you. Yeah. So they used two different songs. It was a song I had called shell Shock and one called Murder Murder. So what they did was they took the chorus part from Murder Murder, which I said, murder, murder, kill, kill, It's real on the battlefield. So they took murder Murder and they took a line that I used from shell shock about my father while I said something to the effect like he gave me his name, he gave me the game, and if you f with me, he'll put
a bullet in your brain. So they put them together and they said, murder, murder, kill kill. If you f with me, I'll put a bullet in your brain. This is the words of this young man. And then they pointed to me in court and that made me scared. His interview. But interestingly enough, because it's the thing, I think. I'm an artist like you an artist. I think that art should be protected. I think that there should be no limits on art. I shouldn't necessarily know if you
need it or not. That's the purpose of art, right. But but ultimately, um, there are a lot of people who say a lot of things that actually did and that's the problem. There's a difference between artistic expression and a confession. And I think that some people are so determined to prove how hard they are where they came from that they're telling on themselves. And and the whole street coach snitches don't get they get immunity for prosecution.
That's what they're getting, right, And and I guess and and to add to that, UM, I think that even if there are people that's doing, you know, doing what they're saying, I speak for the majority, and for the majority and straight fiction. I mean most of these guys, I mean, not the most the more well known artists, but let's talk about some of these artists that don't
have as big of a name. In this song, he says, and I think prosecutors don't get the right to cherry pick what is and what is not that specifically the gig. What they do is they don't care about wheting right around. They care about if they can win. And I think that that what we have, this conflation with words and what mean and the impact. And we just showed you an example of the kind of biases that can Like I write an essay called how to Murder your husband?
That isn't you write murder, murder, kill, kill, And it is and and it is unfair. But I think the whole thing is that we have to protect art in general, whether we agree like it or not. I don't like everything I hear, but art needs to be protected. And then I told I told you, and I told you how I totally agree because in one song, this young man may say, well, I killed for people, But in this very same song he says the own the Bugatti or Leerget or Hellicat and he's sitting here with a
caught up, pointed attorney. So we know this is false. So I mean, we use we use similes fas you use high prob leaves. Right, you know we exaggerated. Kim said that we like to exaggerate. So I just think that it's unfair when they get to cherry pick. Okay, this part of the song is true, and this part of the song is fiction. I just think that's wrong. Even now you've been through everything you've been through, the one thing I noticed about you when I walk into
your room you still got lighting your eyes. So that's that means. And it's not just because of what you do, is because of who you are, and there are does that for you. Man, So the fact that you could go through that have an experience that could turn you soured and you use it to create guests, web more art that says something right right and and there honestly, um, just being just being here is a reflection of of that hope that I kept the whole time I was
there for twenty one years. I made a promise to myself. I said, I was never gonna let this situation turn me black hearted. I never wanted to be a bitter mad about it. You didn't want them to sit the way that it turns you with you, convict, I wasn't I like the win. I like the win, y'all, And you wasn't gonna turn you musicably bitter perside. You know. Some when I came out, I said, well, I gotta get the work because there's other guys who I left
behind that are in similar situations. Master Piece brother Ce murders in a similar situation. You know, his image was used against him and um murder. So you know what's interesting. You have a new album now, it's called Son of the City. Now, did you use anything murder? Murder, kill, kill you? None of that? And I think I think much of that has to do with just maturities growing up. I'm a grandfather, you know what I mean. So I mean, ultimately I was going to mature as a musician anyway.
A lot of these young men that's rapping about what they're rapping about today, they won't be talking about that in ten fifteen years. I mean This album uh is a reflection of a more mature, grown man. It's ten tracks on its favorite My favorite track is Proverbs because it's what I would tell the world if I had the world's attention for four minutes. Those words of what I would say, I ain't got four minutes. Give me
thirty seconds. Thirty seconds, all right, mellor tomorrows be filled with promise and the opposite of sorrow, amongst other things. For I know that it's a struggle just to go with the float when Feta take you many places you would rather not go. But fret not your soul, and not the fear of the things that you just might behold but cannot control. For in time. You know the reason everything has a season. I swear that not until
it's cooked that we start eating. I believe in the power of us, made in their image and in their likeness. The reason we write this is what hopes that will inspire others to take it higher and further than those before us, because they're waiting for us. So your thoughts make your reality, and I wish that I can share with you'all all the formalities. But if I had to sum it up in just a few words that I only take seven on earth as it is in heaven.
Noway little things look, I know, closing, but that's a damn show. Murder murder here, Max Wills, everybody. The album's Fun of the City is available. Okay, we gonna take a break and we're gonna be right back after then. Well that's it. That's gonna holt me. That is my week. I've had a lot of farm holcus in week. H
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