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Ashley Graham - The Journey of Body Positivity and Motherhood

Feb 25, 20238 min
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Supermodel and entrepreneur Ashley Graham discusses why she chooses to be honest on social media, how the terms "body positivity" and "body neutrality" have developed, and why she has a love-hate relationship with Fashion Week.

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You're listening to Comedy Central. Wow, I liked this. The audience so nice and lively. I know, isn't it a wonderful beautiful audience audience? Now, am I just sitting really tall and you're sitting short us? I feel like, yeah, you feel like you're a little taller than me. Yeah, that's okay. Are you? Are you? You want to go down now? It's okay, it's fine. You want to go downtown. It just you know, it's like, well, whatever, it's fine, it doesn't matter. I don't mind that you're overpowering me.

Sometimes sometimes I need to be cut down to size right, Yeah, I do. Thank you for being here today. I'm so excited to talk to you because I always love talking to you because you're real and you're not full of shit like all these other models. Well, thank you. I'd like to keep you honest, keep it real. I don't know what the other models are lying about, but I do know what I'm telling the truth about, and it's me. So I mean, I think that everybody needs to just

have a little honest, honest truth on Instagram and social media. Yeah, and I absolutely I've feel the same way because I find it very frustrating, especially when we think about young girls coming up and growing up and watching everybody on social media now that everybody's dirty laundry is there to see.

It's it's such a crappy example to like let them believe that everybody looks perfect all the time, where people are walking around in those tortilla chip bikinis, you know, without getting some major things done to their bodies to afford that to happen, you know what I mean. And you're all about body positivity, yeah, I mean I like to represent myself as someone who's just happy with who I am. And I've had a journey, like it is

a journey. Body confidence, being okay with who you are is a journey, and there's been waves of it that I've had, you know, mental issues with my body or just physical issues with my body, and but you go

through it. And I think that that's the whole thing is like talk about it, and I don't ever want to lie because I think about myself, right, I think we think about when we were younger, what were the celebrities and influencers and those people that we were looking up to, And there wasn't enough being talked about then. But now we have the platform and we have the we have the space to be able to talk about it, so we don't have to deal with it. But it

just is such a problem. Well, there was no phrase. First of all, there weren't influencers when we were growing up. Nobody was in that. Yeah, and that was a more pleasant time, I would argue, But I love it, But I I know before social medium was a lot easier, wasn't it. It was a lot easier. But I mean there's a term and the and the term body positivity

wasn't even around when we were growing up. Now, so now there's body positivity, which means you know, you're very happy or you embrace all of your your your short I feel positive about where I am in life and it has gone up and down. Then there's body neutrality, which is what their body neutrality is, like I'm just happy to be in my body like period, like I

wake up. On my podcast, pretty pretty big deal. I interviewed Demilovado and she said, I can't lie to myself, like I just want to wake up and know that my body's surviving and working. I'm not gonna lie and say like thick thighs, I love you, and that also is very honest. And I think that that's the most important thing is that you're being honest to yourself. You're

being honest to the people that you're speaking to. So you're not giving this idea of perfection because I mean the whole like altering your body through just one click or one pinch, that's a lie. That's a lie to everybody that's following you. It's not nice. Yeah, no it's not. It's not nice. But body neutrality, I don't think I'm even there yet. Like I don't wake up and go, oh my god, my body's a vessel, you know what I mean. There are layers to it, even for a

grown woman like myself. I mean, I can't believe I just referred myself as a grown woman, but I guess that's what I am. That's how we say hello. We always we didn't always go in for the tinnies and we were just like, ah, we're both well known for our boots for separate reasons. You're feeding your family and I'm just entertaining peoples, and we are so here for MOREY get more. You have you have a set of twis and you have another son, so you have three children,

and that happened quick. That was a little bit like a blitz creeg for me. Yeah, it was overnight. My whole life changed. And yes, it felt like I was just like feeding a nation, but on Instagram because she's very you know, you're normalizing breastfeeding for a lot of people that are not comfortable with it. You have your boobs out, you're constantly pumping feeding these kids or not pumping feeding them. You know, it's all of the above.

There's not one thing that I wanted to kind of be left in the dark, especially with like how your body is changing when you're pregnant and stretch marks and then snaggy skin and formula breastfeeding because there's also this whole thing with people telling you how to feed your child. So it's my first kid, I was like, I could

only breastfeed. This is the right way. And then I had the twins and I was like, I'm not doing this, this is this is not working here, like both of you want both of these Like I'm there's a lot of work. So I saw breastfeeding when they were five months, and I gave them the best formula that I could find in America, Bobby, and these little guys are so strong and so happy. So I don't think we should be telling people how they should be feeding their kids. Right.

But my hair fell out, like it was. This has been a journey Like now, I think I've got like little bangs that like they come like that. What is that? So your hair falls out when you have a baby, Yes, because you get all of these amazing It's like your body just fills up with nutrition and then the baby sucks it out of you. Yeah, and then the baby comes out and then all of a sudden, you're just

fully depleted of everything. So your hair falls out. Not everybody, I mean, this is just my experience, but I know a lot of mothers out there the same thing happened. Acne. I mean, the weight doesn't come off. It's just like your boobs go down to here when you're done. I have two braws on currently, fun and I go. Fashion Week starts this week, which so are you walking any shows? I'm gonna walk, I'm gonna sit, I'm gonna join the parties.

I already did a few things. You're a love fashion Week or you know it's like a love hate right because fashion is so much fun, Like I'm wearing Balmon dress tonight right now, and it's like, thank you Olivier for making my size. And then you find a designer that you're obsessed with and they don't make your size,

and you're like, what am I supposed to do? And it's just this performative act of putting one curve girl on the runway or one curve girl into a campaign, and then you can't find the clothes when you go to the store. So there still is this this long journey I think ahead of us with designers because for whatever reason, there's this like this cycle of issues when it comes to making sizes that can fit the US majority, which is a size fourteen sixteen. That's the that's the

majority of US women, that's the size we are. So why are you missing out on this like billion dollar business? Why don't you want to address us? I don't understand that. Yeah, right, and I'm here to support, like I love fashion, but the biggest problem is is that there just isn't enough designers making close our size. Well, you've done amazing things for a lot of models, so I appreciate everything you're doing on behalf of all women thank you. Yeah. Absolutely.

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