America's Gun Violence Debate | Kellyanne Conway

plan is to stop these mass shootings. Ronnie Chang is celebrating Asian American and AFIC Island a month and our guest tonight is former adviser to President Donald Trump, Kelly Anne Conway. Yeah, so that's gonna be interesting. So let's do this people, Let's jump straight into today's big headlines. But there's no denying that there is a lot going

on in the world right now. For instance, Russia is still invading Ukraine and in response, the European Union has just announced that they will be banning almost all Russian oil imports, which is, if successful, is basically going to turn Russia's currency into the TikTok crying filter all the time. And if there wasn't enough for Europe to be dealing with, there's also a growing outbreak of monkey poks, yes, disease that's killing off everyone's n f t s. So please

everyone vaccinate your monkey remember. And by the way, they're actually saying that it's being spread mostly through sex. Yeah, so at least now when you show up to the doctor with monkey parks, your doctor can be like mom man. Oh. And on top of all of that, someone threw a cake at the Mona Lisa, Yes, which apparently was to protest climate change. It sounded weird, but apparently most people

don't know this about the Mona Lisa. But if you widen out on that picture of her, she's actually driving a hummer. Not cool. That's where the pictures from. So yeah, there's so much happening, so much happening in the world, but America can't focus on any of that stuff because once again America is reeling from mass shootings all the way from Buffalo, New York to your valley, Texas. People are asking how long can this keep going on? And

here's the good news. In response, a major bill has been announced which would ban the new sales of handguns and allow the government to forcefully buy back assault rifles in Canada. Yeah, this is completely real. Canada saw what happened here and they're shutting down guns there. Yeah. At this point, America is basically a scared straight program that gets other countries on the right path. Yeah. It's like you have to smell someone so bad you know that

you decide that you need to take a shower. That's what America is with gun laws. Now to other countries, they're like, we need to do something about guns. And while most Americans liberals and conservatives are open to common sense restrictions on guns to keep Americans safe, there is still a small, yet powerful group of gun fights who believed the problem with gun violence is not because of guns. No, it's because of everything else. Part of the problem is

how this generation that kids exists mostly online. They see actual violence as it's portrayed in the movies they watched, the music they listen to, in the games of video games they play. When I played war growing up with my friends, the boys were allowed to be boys. I said to my friend Andy, Bang, you're dead. But the differences we knew it was fake and Andy got up afterwards, and we went and jumped in the fire hydrant or whoever had a pool? What? First of all, why do

I feel like Andy's fake? And second of all, what does this loser talking about kids know that games are fake? My man? No one is turning off grand theft like shit. I just ran over eighty pedestrians. Should I get a lawyer? Oh my god, I'm too young for jail. What am I gonna do? The argument that American music and video games causes gun violence totally falls apart when you realize the entire world listens to American music and plays American video games. Yeah, but they have nowhere the same level

of America's mass shootings. And don't get it twisted. It's the same music. It's not like in Sweden they're Snoop Dogg is like rattat tat tat, and I never hesitate to put a hat on a cat. It's the same music. Why they're not getting the same results? And please, please please gun gun fanatics. They don't just want to ban video games and music. No, No, it's going further. They also want to replace those things with what they say

are some lost values. The only solution is Christ Jesus and being able to get some type of spirituality and prayer back into our schools. Right now, today, we live in a country where our millennials participation rate for churches is under thirty in a lot of locations. This is the lowest church participation we've ever had as a nation. Uh and so uh it just shows you why you see so much chaos in our streets. Yeah, I mean that that could be one solution. We need to bring

Jesus into our schools. I mean, I don't know how Jesus would feel about that. Yeah, because if I was Jesus, I'll be like, yo, forget that. Look at what you guys did to me with nails. I'm not coming back when there's guns. Look our fifteen ship. I learned my lesson. But again, if you think gun violence in America is high because people aren't going to church, then why don't they have the same gun violence in Europe because they're nobody goes to church. It's like a thing that's done now.

If you go to church in Germany, you'll be the only one that even the preacher will be like, oh jeez, you'll scare the ships out of me. Nobody comes in here anymore. I even forgot there was a doll. Oh, oh my god, that was crazy. Huh. The point is, gun lovers have been blaming the same causes over and over again for decades, although this time, to their credits, they've come up with a new thing to blame. It's not the guns, it's the books. We stopped teaching values

in so many of our schools. Now we're now we're teaching wokeness. We're we're in doctoring our child with things like CRT. Yeah, that's right. That's how evil critical race theory is. It's only been around for like a year and it's already caused three decades of school shootings. It's really tough. It goes back in time. It's so powerful. Book. Man. I know you guys want to blame anything but guns, but it still has to make sense. Can we agree on that? Right? You can't just blame stuff that you

are already mad at. These guys are like, maybe there wouldn't be so many, you know, violent shootings in schools if wife would stop floating with the landscaper. I mean, is it just me that making it sound like there used to be a lesson that was about the importance of not shooting people. But they never got to it because they spent too long in teaching slavery. This doesn't make any sense. And if it's not religion, and if it's not video games, and it's not the music, what

else could it be. Well, according to some gun lovers, maybe it was the school's faults. One of the things that that everyone agreed is don't have all of these unlocked back doors. Have one door into and out of the school. I would like to see this a national push towards instead of parents buying their kids all these tools and toys and games, invest in the classroom to make it safer. They have blankets that you can put up on the wall that are colorful and beautiful, but

there ballistic blankets. We need to install man traps, a series of interlocking doors at the school entrance that are triggered by a trip wire. Trip wire can be a gunshot, broken glass, or manual switch choice by a school employee, and it traps the shooter like a rat. Are these people hearing themselves? You think kids contel fantasy from reality. But your suggestions like how about we make a school with steal doors that slam and windows that turn into

a concrete or even better, the whole school becomes a transformer. Yeah, so that way, when the school shooter comes, the whole school can run away from man. Not to mention, have you guys ever been in a school? Huh? Even as the fire alarm gets pulled as a prank like once a week, you think the jocks are gonna be constantly tossing nerds into the man trap? Do you listen to yourselves?

And even if those ideas don't work. Even if they don't, there's one solution that conservatives love to come back to time and time again, and over the weekend, it was proposed yet again by none other than Donald Jahead Trump. What we need now is a top to bottom security overhaul at schools all across our country. And above all, from this day forward, every school in America should have a police officer or an armed resource officer or duty at all times. Yeah. Yeah, you know. You always hear

people saying this after school shooting. What we need is armed police officers in the school. What's amazing about the debate this time is that they're still saying it's even though in the shooting that just happened, there was an armed police officer and it didn't help. Classic Trump proposing a solution after it already failed. Yea, I mean, he would have been a lot of fun in the lifeboats after the Titanic. Next time, we should just ram that

iceberg really hard. What's the worst that could happen? What are you, egg Jack? What do you think? And as we've all heard by now, there wasn't just an armed resource officer on the scene. There was a whole platoon of police officers who responded to the shooting but didn't do ship to stop it while it was still going on. And I'm willing to guess it's because they were also scared of a gunman armed with an a R fifteen. I feel like that's why we have to ask ourselves

as a society. Do we want to live in a world where anyone can legally buy weapons that the police are scared of? Huh? And just by the way, Just by the way. For me, it's been amazing to see how some people love guns so much that they've gone from blue Lives Matter to screw these bitch ass cops if they're not here to get shocked, and what's the point of having them around? The police oh, now you don't care about the cops lives, Like, I don't know,

Maybe it's just me. I would rather say, get rid of the Air fifteen and make these officers jobs a lot more safe. Maybe it's just me. It's why how people flip. You just flip whenever you feel like it's so so crazy. How the cops they didn't do anything right. They shoot people because they think they have a gun, and then now they're like, they know it's a gun. They're like, well, we can't shoot them if it's a wallet. Maybe, but I mean, so, look, I know that America is

never going to do what Canada's doing. I don't even expect that. Right. There's a gun culture in this country that is far too ingrained to ever truly get rid of it. And I also know that we're not going to stop gun violence altogether. I'm not naive, but I would hope. I would just hope that after a tragedy like this, Americans could agree that losing some of these

is worth it to prevent losing more of these. Don't go away because after the break, Rannie Chain is celebrating a a p I month, and Kelly and Conway will be joining us on the show. We'll be right back. Welcome back to the Gain the show. Throughout the month of May, people have been celebrating Asian American and Pacific Island of Heritage months, and tonight, for the last day of May, Ronnie Chang decided to school us the way

only he can. That's right, people, We've got our own month, and in honor of a bi month, I'm gonna teach you about the most underrepresented demographic of all time Asian Americans in sports. And I don't just mean the heavy hitters like Jeremy Lynn, Michielle Kwan, Tiger Woods. Yeah, we're claiming him. You've got a problem with that, Take it up with the u N. Instead, I want to focus on the underdogs who blaze the trail for all the

other Asian American athletes to come. People like Wally Yona Meeting, the Japanese American who played not one, but two professional sports, and unlike Michael Jordan's, he didn't suck at one of them. Also, he never became a crying me. Why you said, you know Michael Jordan's first seven you're a mean They became a running back for the San Francisco forty Niners, but in the wake of World War Two, he faced a

ton of discrimination even while he was playing. When he would get tackled, the opposing team would punch and kick him. Do you realize how insane that is? I mean, it's football. Everyone's going home with brain damage already. You don't need to force it. After a riss injury one, you're not me, and they decided to switch to baseball. He moved to Japan to play for the Yo ma Yuri Giants, where he was an eleven time All Star and became the first American player ever to be inducted into the Japanese

Baseball Hall of Fame. Crazy thing is you're what I mean? They faced racism in Japan two, but this time because he was American. At games, the fans would chant Yankee go how, which is normally something you expected here only at Red Sox game or honestly, any place in Boston that sells alba. But enough of our baseball, let's talk about something people actually watch, The Olympics. In nine, Victoria Manalo Dres became the first API Olympic champion, but b Filipino,

she also faced a lot of discrimination. In fact, when she was younger and she used the public pool. The town assholes would drain the water after she swam in it, which isn't just racist, it's idiotic. They're gonna double your water bill just because you're afraid of catching. Being Asian, you came and get that from a pool, you have

to share the same straw dut masses. But against the yards Manalo won her gold medal in the women's three meter springboard and she was cheered on by diver Sammy Lee, the first Asian American man to win an Olympic gold medal. That's right, the first two API gold medals at the same games. It was like Asian Christmas, which is just Christmas. But not Every Asian who broke the color barrier had

a happy ending. In Larry Kuong became the first non white player in the NHL when he on the New York Rangers, but they only put him on ice for a minute and he never played in another game again, which sucks. But breaking the color barrier is like losing your virginity. Even if you only did for a second, it still counts. Another great first happened in nine seven when Walter Archi became the first person of East Asian descent to play in the NFL. Because his last name

was a Chu, he earned the nickname Sneeze. Sadly, this was before athletes sponsorships were a thing, so he couldn't even get that sweet, sweet, cleanex money. Eventually, he retired from the NFL to compete in a safer score wrestling, proving that Asians can roll around with our balls and so one's face just like everyone else. But let's move on to my personal favorite sport basketball. The first non white player of any race in NBA history was Japanese

American what tar room Issaka. He was the first draft pick of the New York Knicks, and they even promoted his skills to sell tickets. But oker he faced along anti Japanese sentiment and only ended up playing three games. It was so bad he decided to go back to school the gainst engineering degree, which I respect. He was basically like, oh, you don't like me being Asian, Well I'm gonna be extra Asian now, bitches. But sports isn't

just about the athletes. There's so many other people who have made history without destroying their joints, people like Kim who became the general manager of the Miami Marlins, making her the first female GM in any major American men's league. She walked away up the ladder, facing racism and sexism. It's the surf and tourf of discrimination. So now you know there's been so many unsung Asian sports heroes in history.

Don't bother thanking me, my meager teacher's talgory is thanks enough, and yes, this is all gonna be on the final Happy API month. Idiots probably chatting everybody all right when we come back for my advisor to President Trump, Kelly and Conway is joining me on the show, so don't go away. Welcome back to the Daily Show. My guests tonight served as Donald Trump's campaign manager in and would

become one of President Trump's longest serving aids. She's going to talk about that and her new memoir Here's the Deal. Please welcome Kelly and Conway, Kenny and Conaway, Welcome to The Daily Show. Thank you for having me. You know, there are a few guests I have on my show that get me more people asking the question why you know?

That's what people I said. I'm Kelly and Conway is gonna be on the show, and people like why I have Kelly and Conway on and then you know, some of my friends are like, Oh, she's gonna lie to you, she's gonna flip things around, she's gonna spin that, she's gonna be she's gonna why. That's what people ask me the whole time. They really ask that why because they think they know me, They think the caricature is real, and they don't want to hear from people who disagree

with them. I don't think that that's completely true. I think it's because people. I think it's I think what happens is people get frustrated, especially in America, because they feel like they're being toyed with, you know, And I'm not putting this all on you, by the way, I actually found the book interesting because there were parts of the book that I feel like illuminated stories that you you never told, or parts of being in the Trump

presidency that nobody knew about. And and I guess maybe that that's like the first question I had about your job and what you were doing with President Trump, and that is when you're working in the White House and you had the position that you had, when you're working for an administration, do you feel like there are times when you have to lie to protect the president, or do you feel like you have to do that because you're furthering a greater good? Not none of the above.

First of all, the President offered me the press secretary job within an hour or or and a half of being elected in I said no, because he said you'll be great at Then I'm thinking to myself, I've wrote in the book, I'd be a terrible press secretary. I'm not even sure what they do. And so I didn't want to press or Comm's job. I took a policy job, but I kept getting pulled out um to speak on behalf of the White House, on behalf of the country. And I have to tell you. People will say, how

can you go up against this anchor? They asked me the same question, why would you go on this show? Why do you deal with that anchor? They're not fair to you, They only prefer Democrats, et cetera. And I say, look, the anchors are never really my audience. That people are the audience. There are folks out there. They're forgotten man, forgotten woman, forgotten child who would not otherwise have access to information news. They can use facts and figures that

affect their everyday lives. But there were many times I didn't speak. There were many things I didn't address. I either felt that I was not the expert on them or I didn't have all the answers. But I would note that, you know, all the smart men around me did not go on TV, did not come and face the music, did not come and explain UM. I was almost like their mo mop up girl on spokesmodels. Sometimes that's what they wanted so that they can be behind

the scenes working on important policy. And I have to tell you, even this White House when it started, the Biden Harris White House, they said, look at us, we have a female press and comp shop. And I thought, well, of course you do, because the women don't get as many policy jobs. And that's what I wanted to do. So I worked on veterans, military military spouses. I worked on the tax Cutton Jobs Act. I worked on the opioid crisis. I worked on education, health care reform. The

list goes on and on. And you find out in these public service jobs, Trevor, that you can help make a difference in people's lives. And I think that many of the Trump hands accomplishments have done exactly, that we were better off economically energy wise. Putin was not in Ukraine and Rand was not salinating in Israel. How much did you pay for guests? And don't forgive me. Forgive me because you're doing the thing that you're very good

at right now, and that is seeking the truth. No, and that is not answering the question that I've asked you. I did answer no, no, no, I said no, no. What I'm what I'm saying is this is and I really I don't want to have a confrontational conversation with you, because when I was reading the book, it felt like more of a conversation with you as a person. So okay,

let me let me ask it this way. So here you have a situation where in the book you talk about how you will oftentimes a voice of reason in the room. You know, I have no reason to not believe that you talk about in the book how you said to Donald Trump, hey, you lost the election. You have lost this election. But what I actually said was we were talking about the December fourteenth deadline. That was the date by which the electors would certify the election,

and they were about to certify it. For Joe Biden, and Kamala Harris. And in the six weeks prior to that, I had long left the White House. And in the six weeks prior to that, the President and his legal team we're trying to find proof of theft and fraud and malfeasance and shenanigans. And I think there are many unanswered questions from will never know. But the main thing you said to him, and I said, and you're coming up sure, it looks like you're coming up short for

that certification date other people. Trevor then had the idea, wa, we don't go to other people. Wait, wait, honestly, not to go to January six, don't do a different sort of happening so much January sick though, I'm saying in this case, this is what I'm saying is interesting is you said this in the book right after a NOW issue. You said this in the book. Since the book came out, Donald Trump has come out and I think it was true social and he said no, Kelly and Conway is lying.

She never said that to me. She never told me that I lost. And if she told me that, I would have fired on the spot. So let's say like in that instance, it's you it's Donald Trump, So who's telling the truth. He didn't use the words liar or fire, but but he said was I wouldn't dealt with her anymore. That's not a good criterion. I wouldn't have to deal with anymore. But I told him. I told him that

he came up short, and it broke my heart. I wish he were still the president because you're saying, so, you're saying you did tell him, and so he's when he's saying he's coming up short for December four other people. I'm very candid and very honest. And by the way, this is not one of these tell all and breemost. I'm not speaking up now because I didn't speak up then, God knows I spoke. You didn't know there's five pes in there. My life story, certainly time is campaign manager

making history. Is the first female complete that we're going to get your counsel to the president and what that meant. Allow me to move through it step by step. I promise you, I'm gonna get to those parts. What I'm asking you. So I think you've answered in this case, So you're saying that is the truth is that you told him and you said broke Bidens the president. I don't think everything was completely fair, and rance you're doing the You see, the people are right now with me.

The people who said to me, she's going to do the thing to you're doing the thing to me right now that Joe Biden is. I didn't ask you that question though, Okay, the question I asked you was who's telling the truth? That's honestly what I asked you. I didn't ask you about who's president who's not president. I said who's telling the truth? As and you told one side of the story. Donald Trump told another side of the story. And what you're telling me is you're saying

his side of the story is not true. I'm telling you that I told him before the December fourteen's deadline, which disagree. So so maybe maybe this is what I'm trying to say in this In this book, what I found particularly interesting is you you've given us an inside into the Trump White House and and how it worked well, how sometimes it didn't work. You know, you've had some of the most scathing opinions on people like Jared kushn

Of for instance. You you don't you don't mince your words in the book about Jared you know, or Steve Bannon, and it you know, it feels like you you felt like at times, they you know, got away with not being as good at the job as you felt they should have been. Well, I think that the president, your boss in the workplace, asked you to work together as a team. You should try to do that. And this just happened to be the West Wings. That was very

important that people be collaborative and not confrontational. I felt that that. I felt there was a lot of undercutting, if not usurping of other people's duties and responsibilities. And there was a lot of gratuitously nasty stuff going on also, And it happened at the very beginning. And here's someone who you know, along with George, my husband made a decision to move to Washington, d C. Move our children there. He too, took a big job in the Trump administration.

We have that in common. And we're doing all this and I have people constantly knife in me, constantly throwing law was in my path. Now, I had two choices, and I think a lot of women in the workplace will relate to this chapel right, two choices. I can sort of slink away or cry under the desk and hope the emotional shrapnell doesn't hit me. Or I can hold my head high and forge ahead and try to

be one small molecule that's working for positive change. Um. In the end, I mean a lot of those guys got fired, slinked away in shame, didn't last strong, UM, And I think in many in many cases, my balls were bigger and in fact actually actually so that question. So that to that point, let's talk about the guns game. So this is this is a moment you were an adviser to the presidents. This is what I find interesting. One of my strangest moments, even during the show, was

when Donald Trump. President Donald Trump came out and he said there was there was a mass shooting, and he said, you know what we need to do. We need to raise the age limits. He said, we need to ban assault rifles. He needs he said, you Republicans who don't want to do it, you're scared of the n r A. He came out, he had all of these measures, which I said, even on the show, I was like, this

is amazing, this is fantastic. Many were shocked. But then we've learned recently that there were there were some of his insiders who convinced him. I think like Mick Mulvaney was one of them who said, don't do it. You're gonna lose if you don't. Trump said, I don't care, we need to do this, and he got convinced out of it. Now, I would love to know from your perspective, how did his team convince him out of something when I mean, this was the man who everyone said, don't

you can't build a wall. He said, I'm going to go and build this wall. You know you can't ben Muslims like, I'm gonna find a way to do it. How did they convince him? What do we not know about the gun lobby in the gun world that they managed to push Donald Trump away from his initial position. Respectfully, the premise is flawed because I was in those conversations and he did talk about different measures, but they didn't come to the they didn't come to the Senate, they

didn't come they didn't reach his desk. A president has to sign into law things that the United States Congress has the guts to put there, and they did not know. I want I also want to say this though I was there um for Parkland I was there after the Parkland Valentine's I'm not blaming Trump, by the way, I'm just as shifted from his Then I flew with him to Santa Fe, Texas when when there was a shooting their eight children were killed, eight high schoolers and two

teachers there. And what I learned the entire time is that people are very quick to say it's this problem, it's that problem is actually a spectrum. You know, it's never one thing that positive and it's never one thing that can solve it, right, But then nothing gets done. So nothing has gotten done. And again, if you've got a president's been there for fifty years, I hope he will because he can say I hope he can do. I know, I know you're probably doing in I don't

blame there he does. I'm saying to you as an advisor like and I mean this honestly, as as a Kelly and Coma like you're not even a fan of the semid Coling, not just listening. What I'm saying to you is in the position that you're in and the position that you may find yourself in again, because you you do have the air of many powerful Republicans, You do have you know you're in You're in the rare position of speaking to Donald Trump and Mike Pence right now.

You're one of the few people who is the connective tissue of many parts of the Republican Party, both the old and the new. And so maybe I would even ask you then, as an advisor, now, what are some of the common sense ideas that you think could be possible, because I think these are moments that the public democrat. These are just children. You just you just said the most important word here. I know people talk about guns

and mental health and hardening the targets. I'm thinking through the vantage of the vantage point of the children, and we should just start there and all these matters. And I learned that and listening to the Parkland families, I learned that after the Dayton shooter had his juvenile records were kept private and now that it's his privacy versus the security of other people. I learned that when we looked at Parkland and you saw the FBI had visited

many times and nobody ever did anything. These people, these mad men, the moral depravity, these evil people. They usually broadcasts or intention they're bragging me about. I want to be a school shooter look at me, and so we should take that seriously. I mean here they say, if you see something, say something. They made a backpack in

the subway. I think the people who are around these folks and are afraid of them and believe that they could do should feel free to go to the authority under cover of privacy, go to the authorities and report that. Here's what I think should happen with the children. You know, Trevor, if we just acted with the same gusto to protect our children from violence in the schools that we did to protect them from the virus, which we should have done.

We now have one twelve billion dollars in last year's American rescue plan and put in post pandemic money for for the schools of it, according to the Law Street Journal last week, is unspent. Why well, because they already did the ventilation. They already did the sticker, as we already did the masks. Now we're moving on to its airmark for mental health. It's air marked for more teachers and counselors. It's air mark for lost learning, and we

should be spending that money. It's seven billion just here in New York City. The largest school district in the country, and it's not spent yet because it expires in September. They're trying to figure out how to do it. Let's take that money, it's already been passed and approved by the president. Let's take that money and shift it over to keeping our kids safe in these schools. My goodness, we have we keep athletes safe, politicians SA No, of

course not. Nineteen states have red flag walls. These states have taken action where Washington has not. In fact, the state of Florida, with the Republican State Legislative republic Governor Rick Scott m past red flag laws after Parkland, Florida. So it is possible. As people are saying do something, say something, to do something, and I don't know what's

going to happen in Congress. I'd like to feel more hopeful that people will come to their senses and think about how to keep these kids safe, because it should not be an occupational hazard for any child um to go to school and the fear for their lives obviously their safety, but there's so many signs along the way and people should feel free instead of judging everybody's social media post and and calling everybody names and canceling people.

Why don't we say that person's slinging an a R fifteen online saying he aspires to be a school shooter. Half the class is afraid of him. Why don't we do something about that? So I think it's all that. And I was disappointed to hear Senator Chris Murphy of Connecticut UM say last week, don't give me the bull ship about mental health. We don't have any more mental health problems in other countries. Excuse me. It is a big problem here, maybe in other countries too, but we

have to look at that. We have to start investing in that. UM. So, yes, I believe in the case of Buffalo, there was a red flag should have been triggered, and the authorities did not do anything about it. The Buffalo shooter, UM here, and you'v all the this, this murderer who just recently turned eighteen. I believe there were warning signs and people were afraid of him, and they said, he would you torture cats and brag abound We're going to rape you. I'm going to be a school shooter.

I think you have to take people like that seriously and not just look the other way, So there is a whole spectrum of solutions that I I hear what you're saying correctly in that situation, which I would agree with. Is what you're saying is if you look at these red flags, if you look at these moments ahead of time, you can find reasons to restrict people from gaining access to guns. Because you're saying, we see that this is

not conducive to society. Not everybody should have it because if you're operating and she's just like happening anything with any other machine, any other agree on many things. Believe I listened to you and and look this country. I write in my book at the end the the the publisher Simon and Schuster, the head They're asked me, can you dig a little bit deeper and try to unify the country? Like sure, that sounds easy, And I did try.

And one thing I said, I think is incredibly important for us all to realize is that sure, we can talk about bipartisanship, we can talk about finding common ground. I always think that's valuable, but we also need to realize that not everybody in this country wants to wear the red or blue uniform seven three sixty five we don't want politics and every conversation, collaboration, consideration, every meal, every conversation at a place of worship or your place

of work, and the kids playground you have. We have much more uncommon in this beautiful country field with amazing people, and people realize, but these cultural cleavages are very real, and we have to we have to confront that. We have to I think I think deal with that. Look, if Donald Trump wants to be president again, it's the simplest path is not to look backwards to run against Joe Biden. He can have a cage match rematch, and I think people will pay attention that that's what he

wants to do. That's the that's the smoothest, easiest path. That's the smoothest easiest path if he really wants to do that. But um, but we have to also respect that the growing number of people in this country, they are upset with what's going on in Washington. They feel

excluded from the process. If from the stem, can I tell you what I think happens in America That's particularly interesting is America is one of the few countries I've lived in where politicians complain about politics being a tool that should be used to change the country when they are in the position of changing the country using that politics. Yes, it's that's a great having me on the shock. I could chat to you for hours. Unfortunately, have a time

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