"It Is What It Is"

For nearly 40 minutes, President Trump sits down with Axios reporter Jonathan Swan for an interview that reveals Trump's inability to fully grasp the coronavirus situation on his hands. With election day fast approaching, today CNN Political Director David Chalian explores the disconnect between Trump's reality and the pandemic facts of the matter. Plus, President Trump reverses his messaging on mail-in voting, and Chalian gives us a taste of what it would look like getting to 270 electoral votes. To learn more about how CNN protects listener privacy, visit cnn.com/privacy Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices