Bob Rae: "The world is turning upside down"
Nov 27, 2025•24 min
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Episode description
The veteran politician says we are living through a time of upheaval, but he still has hope, as he leaves his post at the United Nations. "If I fall into pessimism or cynicism, then all I'm doing is basically giving up the space to the people who I know would like to do bad things."
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