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CULTured #2: Shirtless Men's Drum Circle VS Bear

Jun 24, 202429 minSeason 1Ep. 37
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This month, we dive into Netflix's Dancing for the Devil, the TwinRay cult, Men's Group ethics, and Swami Satchidananda's possible VD

 

Netflix's Dancing for the Devil

Be Scofield's Twin Ray expose (please donate to help keep her work going)

MA'AT - Advocacy for victims of Aubert Bastiat

Yogaville Lawsuit (again, Be Scofield - go donate if your can)

I've Had It Podcast

Lilias's Bones - A Witch Podcast

Transcript

Intro / Opening

Music.

Monthly News Roundup in Yoga and Wellness

Monthly roundup of news in the yoga and wellness and whatever the fuck else sure we can think of and we remembered to do it again even though i thought i did think that i'd forget typically we forget but i mean when i say we i again i passenger so yeah but there's been a lot of like weird culty shit in the news so hit us with it it was kind of like a good time so the first bit is in the past month, Netflix released Dancing for the Devil. Did you watch it? Oh my God, I watched it. Oh my God.

So it's a three episode docu-series following the Wilking family and their attempts to pull their daughter and sister Miranda Derrick from the clutches of 7M, a TikTok production company, and also a branch of the Shekinah Church, which also feels kind of like one of those like Jim Jones-y revival churches, but it's like a lot of Koreans.

The Shekinah Church and the Wilking Family

It's so fucking crazy do you remember when they went on the tiki-taki and like we're making this like plea for them to know well you mean the documentary yes yes yeah no no no in real life i don't remember so i remember it happening and i'm like it's too much because it was like a whole thing they're like everybody's like have you seen this you know and they like do like reviews on other posts you know whatever whereas they're just like little floating head and they're pointing uh-huh and

they're like oh this is what they're saying oh my god have you seen this and it was like so fucking juicy but did i click once no i was like oh that's listen if you're not giving me all the deets in like 15 seconds or less i'm moving on with my life yeah it was one of those things it was a long plea yeah so they go on the wilking family goes on tiktok like live yes to To like plead with people for like with any information about like Miranda Derrick to

come forward or help or like, hey, we're here. We miss you. Right. But this church, the Shekinah Church, which is led by Robert Shinn, he's been accused of isolating members, being super shady with money, sexual assaults. S.A.

Allegations Against Robert Shinn

For sure. Yes. Discuss. Discuss. Discuss. Mind you, he has a daughter. I know.

Robert Shinn’s Daughter and the Church

Who was active. But she's like a part of it. But I think didn't she bail? She left. She bailed. Yeah. She left. But I don't know if that's just to save her own ass or not.

Impact and Reactions to ”Dancing for the Devil”

I don't know. she hasn't come forward so it's true just update things though i don't if you haven't seen it you should watch it it's like a pretty quick watch i feel like i've watched a lot of like cult things and like true crime and when that poor man is telling i think it's like one of the sisters he's like i gave about 90 of my income to robert pre-tax i audibly gasping i gasped out loud and i said oh sweet baby angel me i did you wow it wow it

created such a reaction that i was like shocked yeah i was by myself i was completely by myself and i was like oh my god a baby like anybody will see that i know and then i got embarrassed even though there was no one there to watch it i got a little like i was like oh i shocked myself yeah no but honestly it was really fucking sad like so sad like and it just like everybody just wanted you know what they wanted money fame oh yeah well money yeah fame fame and money yeah

and that's why i think they They were low-hanging fruit.

Because Haley was like, I can do this for you. I can da-da-da-da-da. And... I don't can i tell you though yeah how satisfying no i'm not gonna spoil no spoilers actually no this whole thing is spoilers yeah fuck that it's been out if you know but not for like a not even a month oh really yeah so did i jump on it quick yeah well yeah i watched it the first day and then i told you that was the first day okay yeah okay all right well that's so good can you

just say spoiler alert okay spoiler alert skip this but when they finally deliver him the papers for the lawsuit they're like at that like family eating joint uh-huh and they like deliver the papers i was like fuck yeah get that damn okay so an update though miranda derrick still remains in 7m slash shekinah and insists that she's not being controlled and that because of the documentary she and her husband are receiving death threats in april it does i think that's shitty because why would

you be like i like send someone a death threat for someone that you think is in trouble you're not like they don't impact you in any way if anything the only thing that you should like any mind like you're dancing is too dangerous oh death threat death threat this is fucking crazy like otherwise they don't even have they have nothing to do with you they.

Criminal Cases and Dropping of Charges

Impact your life in any way why death yeah but in april of this year the two criminal cases against robert shin for sexual battery were dropped with law enforcement law enforcement citing the delay in reporting and insufficient evidence because the statute of limitations had passed. Which is kind of bullshit. I don't know. But I'm like, if somebody has done something and several people have come up and said. There shouldn't be a statute of limitations.

And then did you see where they were like, we need more people in the documentary? Mm-hmm. Is one not enough? Like, you know what I mean? Yeah.

Civil Cross Suit of Shikina Members

So despite there being no criminal charges, there is a civil cross suit slated for 2025. 25 shin is suing former members of shikina for libel and defamation and those members are countersuing for fraud forced labor and human trafficking good and there's been no updates he's like laying real low i hope he gets what he deserves same if you have not watched dancing for the devil on netflix you should i'll put it in the show notes it's really good i hope that

like if they come up with like a decision i hope that they're not like they use the documentary again oh nobody can make a clear decision without being influenced by this documentary kind of thing you know what i mean i mean i don't think everyone is going to be like there's going to be a jury like when they're like the bias of the jury yeah i hope they don't try to pull that shit if they don't get a favor i mean if they never

mind i was gonna say if they could find a jury for trump that was impartial they can find a jury for robert shinn that is impartial that's true so the second piece is that b scofield broke a story back in april about an ashland oregon cult called twin ray run by a woman named mia therese who was a d-level actress that claimed to have become inhabited by a goddess called wait for it to come together shakina mall i was waiting i literally thought you were going to say that you thought

you did i thought you were gonna say shakina i I didn't hear your thing. Oh, my God. The ESP with me right now. It happened. Oh, my God.

Twin Ray Cult Allegations

I should kind of mod your brain. Yes. That is so funny. I literally did think you were going to say she kind of something. I love it. Weird. That is so weird. So. Shekinah Ma, who is apparently the embodiment of Mary Magdalene, and her husband, a man named Harley Foster, or Sananda Ji, who is obviously the embodiment of Jesus. Obviously. Obviously. And Winston Churchill. Probably. So a twin ray is divine couple that reconnects in every lifespan.

And there's a lot of prophecy and energy grids and cultural appropriation.

And it's like super convoluted but since b broke the story the cult store in ashland has been shuttered and b is working on a podcast i will send or i will set put a link in the show notes she does really good reporting she has a website called guru mag you can like donate to her work there too so if you guys are interested i'll put that in the show notes too the third story i have today that was actually a really quick one because i actually don't have more because i want her to

be able to be the one to tell the story, especially if she's working on a podcast about it. But the third piece I have is that there have been allegations concerning Albert Bastiat, who is one of the founders of Sacred Sons, which is a men's group that does work with embodied masculinity and connecting men to their divine nature.

Allegations Against Albert Bastiat

So he's like a men's like I don't know he's like one of those guys that is cleaning to do good work for women through like men's work with like their own masculinity. I'm trying to find okay so I think I'm just like so on like when I think about men masculinity and all you know whatever I'm trying to be like. Like a little bit less like toxic. Right. OK, because that's kind of where I go. And then I'm already on the defense.

I have a feeling like I have certain feelings about these men's groups that aren't very great. But that is my personal opinion. And I guess I really don't know anything about them other than I'm like, do you guys need a safe? I mean, I guess everyone needs a safe space. But like when I think about a group of men getting together, the first thing I think vulnerable i don't think the first thing i think of is like how scary for me.

Like how scary for anyone i choose the bear yeah i would choose the bear any day i choose the bear if i see a shirtless drumming circle yeah and a bear you best go for the bear i'm going for the Yeah. But so Albert Bastiat was allegedly or the allegations include grooming, consent violations and a psychedelic therapy setting and exploiting domestic labor. I don't even know what that means. I think he's just taking advantage of people and being like kind of shitty.

Allegedly. I don't know. In January of 2023, Sacred Sons removed Aubert for an ethics violation, and then they claimed to mediate, but then straight up just disassociated from him altogether.

Disassociation from Albert Bastiat

They were like, we don't know him. Oh, wow. Bye.

Advocacy for Victims of Albert Bastiat

Oh, wow. This year, Michaela D'Amico has been nonstop advocating for victims with the support of a group called Ma'at. And I'll also put her account in the show notes, but she has a lot of the proof with the allegations.

Believing Women and Organizational Response

And honestly on the whole i generally just believe women like oh i don't like. I and also in my head I'm like oh wow it was really like easy for a group of men to push another man out of an organization when they felt he wasn't like being great but if I mean cool but like but like for another in the first place no I agree but I'm like how it's never that clean or easy when it's a group of women you know yeah like see I'm tainted I'm literally like I even and look for the, again, inequity.

And choosing the bear in this situation. My brain just went to, like, the bear, the bear. Such a good show. Also would choose the bear. Yeah. I would choose all the bears. No, not, like, sexually. Oh, I was like. I was thinking. Not like. I was thinking sweatpants. I was thinking eating food in bed and binging the bear. Not where I was going at all. Listen, he's not even my type. But why is he so muscular? Why? Why? Why does that make sense? Like, why is he so muscular? Like,

what is that? Is it necessary? It's probably fitness. Typically, but is it necessary for his role? Does he need to be that cut and ripped? I don't know. And does he need to, like, put his arms so straight? What?

Where he gets little that dip that like that divot i don't know i've seen do i need to see his trapezoids no i don't okay no i don't okay the bear but thank you i've seen him in things though like i guess before he got like like ripped so i feel like in my mind he doesn't look like that he looks you know you know his old version you know you like you always like think of people when you are like actors when you like first see them in something and And then I first saw him in The Bear.

So I first saw him in a scary and a horror film. Which one? The rental? No. It's actually not that scary. It's more like a. Like a rental property? Like an Airbnb? Yeah. Yeah. Scary. That does sound scary, actually. Yeah. It was directed by Dave Franco. I do love Dave Franco. James. You know, it's so sad because I did like his, what I thought was his personality. And then I heard all the yuck. I'm like, oh, God. I was like the biggest James

Franco fan in high school. You know what? Freaks and geeks. Oof. This is a thing for me. Something about a very prominent Adam's apple like when you laugh if your Adam's apple moves like a gackle like if you like, goofy like goofy's Adam's apple like okay so I don't even think this guy is attractive, Ronaldo Cristiano or whatever I don't know the soccer player. When he like talks I love his soccer. When he talks, his Adam's apple moves, and I'm like, I don't know why that's

attractive to me. It's weird. I like a lisp, and I like an Adam's apple. Look at you. I'm fucking weird. I like it. Fucking weirdo. I like it. You're a weirdo. Yeah. Okay, we have one more. Usually I have three, but we have one more.

Lawsuit Against Yogaville

A new lawsuit has been brought against Yogaville, a.k.a. the Integral Yoga Institute. Yogaville is an ashram opened in 1980 by Swami Satchitananda. Satyajit Nanda has been accused for years of sexual assault and rape and new allegations. Or the new lawsuit alleges that the Institute concealed the violations and sought to isolate victims to keep them quiet. The ashram is countersuing for defamation against the assault victims, which is a bad look. Yeah, yeah.

Come on but yeah so like these rumors have been like circulating for years of like not even rumors obviously i believe them because it sucks because i don't know if you've noticed but i have a lot of satchitananda books oh i did not notice your book i actually was reading a little bit in one oh oh oh wait do share where we're talking about brahmacharya brahmacharya real quick is like celibacy or consonants and i don't know i guess i must have skipped

this over but he says in it brahmacharya or celibacy means control not suppression if the mind can be filled With sublime thoughts by meditation, mantra repetition, the sex desire will be devitalized by the withdrawal of the mind. On the other hand, suppression of sexual desire will attach you to it again and again, producing wet dreams, irritability, and mental restlessness. So, I feel, perhaps... What? What is this guy? What? These great vows, this vow of brahmacharya, not limited by class,

place, or circumstance. This motherfucker. Oh, young people say, when you love somebody, how can you stop giving? But out of love, they know, they know, they do not know what to give. Sometimes they can even give venereal disease. Why? I was just like looking up, I was trying to look up, like, Like, I was like, this motherfucker is talking about, like, celibacy and giving it all right. And then I was like, wait a second. Why is he talking about venereal, Darryl? In this yoga text.

That is so fucking funny. And wet dreams. Wet dreams. Don't forget. Wet dreams. Yup. Yoga sutras. Translation by Sajitananda. Do not buy. And you just have that book. Yeah. All of our trainings are based usually on, not funny, you know, a fegging.

Brahmacharya and Satchitananda’s Teachings

Get out of here with you. Maybe he knows by experience because he has fucking wet dreams and venereal diseases. Such a tananda. I'm so sorry. That's the thing. I'm like, cut. Why? So, I love yoga so much. But I feel like, It's a slippery slope for people who can't like. And it sucks. There is literally allegations like every wise, and I'm saying this again, air quotes, eye roll, hardcore. Like almost everyone is so fucking shady. Right. You cannot trust anybody.

But then where do you draw the line at the wisdom that they did impart? Because there's good. Can you separate the author from the act? Can you separate the teacher from that yeah i don't know i'm still working that out but that's shitty what would you have joined a cult for this month.

The transition that's shitty what would you have joined a cult for this month that glorious transition oh gosh i should have prepared for this but i think that right in this moment i I would join a cult for protected sleep. Just protected sleep. So almost the same as last month, but instead of pod for games. I literally, I think that the common thread with me is just like, leave me the fuck alone. Like, I just need to be in my space to recharge.

Cult Desires: Korean Chicken Wings and Puzzles

I'm so fucking tired lately. lately i can't think of anything that like because i've just been so work-minded lately i haven't like, been able to like i just there's no stopping and thinking about much it's just go go go go go so i would just like that protected time to sleep yeah what would you join a cult for sorry i don't have have a better answer than that i don't know it's a tie between korean chicken wings fuck yes oh my god i'm barbecue

chicken wait what's that place called barbecue chicken it's literally called barbecue barbecue that's fucking wild it's bb.q chicken. Uh those baby doc literally and puzzles so.

Maybe eating the wings while puzzling and puzzling i would join if there was a cult that had puzzlingly korean chicken wings fucking sign me up i will murder her you want me to murder yeah just say the word you want me to look the other way just give me those wings give me the the wings to look at the other way yeah honestly if you if i had those wings be committing tax fraud right next to me i'd have no idea yeah i'd be having a love affair sorry i just realized

what i would also join a cult for and it's another podcast it's called i told and i've told you about this before i know i've mentioned it before no oh it's called i've had it no it's a podcast cast and these are just like two fucking grumpy ass old ass women they love themselves like they literally love being called old broads they're like they're from oklahoma uh-huh okay they're like in the bible belt they're in like all things patriot they

are the most liberal bitches uh-huh and they shit all over and they like make fun of stanley cups they like oh my god yeah it's i've I've had a podcast. One is there's there's one of the hosts. Her name is Jen. And the other post, the other host's name, her name's Angie. But she goes by Pumps. And like they talk so much. They're best friends. They talk so much shit to each other and they talk so much about each other.

And it's just like self-deprecation, but like funny. And then it's like just talking shit about like fucking people.

Not republicans but like trumpers yeah because you can be a republican without being a trumper correct but they just it's so fucking funny and they make fun of people who think that like they're making like a stance they're like oh america blah blah blah and they put up this flag and it's like a liberian flag and not like a it's red white and blue for sure but like you dumb motherfucker i don't even know how to put that and it's it's it's so funny yeah

it's got it's like helping me through my commutes in the morning oh that's fun yeah so i've had a podcast i would join a cult for them i i they used to have a show on the bravos i think it was the bravo or the teal sizzle i don't know one of them yeah and so i already knew who they were and then i like stumbled on their podcasts oh that's so fun fucking funny oh if we're shouting out podcasts my friend brina has a podcast called Lilius's Bones.

And it's a podcast about, I think that she was the only witch buried in Scotland and her bones went missing. And so the podcast is about like Lilius 80 and her life and them searching for her bones. Is it the whole podcast that's just about this one topic?

Podcast Recommendation: ”Lilius’s Bones”

Yes. So she deep dives. episode three i think well when this airs maybe four but so she's like real thorough and is like yeah well she is she is like a very good journalist she's like it's incredible and it's funny because i've popped up a couple of the articles that i've looked at for research her name has popped up and i was like wait this can't be the same you're like my brina i'm like that i I know her and I didn't know that she was a writer. She used to come to my classes.

Her and her partner, Courtney, used to come to my classes in San Francisco. I loved them. And so I, of course, have like – know them in such a different way. No, at this place called Yoga Flow. And so they – so, yeah. So it was just like so bizarre to be like, oh, my God, now I know you in another way. That is so cool. No, that's super fun. I'll link to it in the show notes. But Lilius' Bones. That sounds – A witch podcast.

Slash yes about witches maybe Brina can help us with our diarrhea spell yeah I mean just usually I did have this thought the other day who would we give nostril or not nostril more effectively, tear duct diarrhea to Justin Timberlake what no we just said DWI that's not a big deal, That doesn't deserve diarrhea eyes. You just look really embarrassed. I just think it's so egregious because you have so much money. You could have fucking paid for an Uber. You could have gotten an Uber.

You're a dumbass. I think anybody who gets a DUI, sorry. And I'm sure friends of mine have gotten DUI. Listen, I get it. But know that it's a stupid choice to get behind the fucking wheel when you have fucking alcohol in your body.

Eye for Eye: Metaphorical Diarrhea

I think that this week, Robert Shin.

Yeah, for sure. she kind of she kind of guy she kind of guy she kind of i do feel bad i will say though, he deserves eyeball diarrhea oh eyeball diarrhea for sure yeah i feel like he's fucked up so many people especially that one the girl who's there for like 23 years i know i know and she like can't even be regular she can't even normal because she's so damaged and she'll get there she'll get there i hope she does at least you know like i want her to find peace and i want her to i wish

her the deepest vengeance like yeah i think that like watching if okay back to dancing for the devil let's go i think watching it you just feel so deeply like you want vengeance for her yeah no it absolutely and i think this fucking sucks is that this the whole like statute of limitations against sexual assault i think in this country is fucking ridiculous like Like, it shouldn't have to be. Why is there one? It should be able to be because they want to be like, you snooze, you lose.

But a lot of people, sometimes they don't realize that they are even being sexually assaulted because they've been groomed. Groomed. That it was normal. That's normal. So until, and honestly, it takes. And it's how our laws protect. Being removed from the situation. Men in our country more than women who are being victimized. Yeah. And it fucking is awful. Disgust.

Challenges in Reporting Sexual Assault

And it's gross that they need more people to come forward one that's what i'm saying one should be solid one should be like literally do you does somebody need to murder several people yeah to be convicted or can you just murder one person and then you're a murderer you know what i mean yeah i don't know i understand that people are like overloaded and stuff and like there's so many threats that aren't credible.

But, like, for every, every, everything that they take is not being credible that they roll their eyes at. There's, like, a crazy statistic that, like, only, like. It's less than 5% of sexual assaulters go to jail. That's disgusting. Yeah. I want to say 97% get away with it, but that's an arbitrary number. I do think it's less than 5%. I'm firm in saying it's less than 5% people.

Women’s Experiences with Law Enforcement

I do think that just women in general aren't taken seriously when they go to the cops at all. Yeah. And that sucks.

Yeah. Well, that's a whole other... that's a whole other episode not even because it's um i mean we could tie it in but it would it's out that gets it gets me ragey yeah it gets me ragey too it gets me very was it teal swan that pissed me right the fuck off who was it yeah one yeah oh no it was it was uh one taste one taste rage motherfucker cringe diarrhea in your eyes okay well thanks for listening to our second little roundup thing if you have questions you can dm us

or email us at hello at spiritually fuck.com and keep listening keep sharing if you could leave us a review and rate us that would be great we haven't done that in a long time yeah please we want to know okay i'm done good night bye good night and good luck good night that's it's probably morning for you what is that i don't. It's um so dumb that i'm embarrassed to even say what it's from you won't even it's too old you wouldn't know yeah i don't know much though okay bye. Music.

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