Welcome to The Cult Classic Horror Show. Every week you can have the conversations you've always wanted to have about the films you love. Get rid of your distractions and prepare yourself. Danny Bohnen, Scotty Bohnen, with you guys. This is how I want to start the episode. Is this that movie? Yeah, that's the one. Did you watch the ring instead? Because they came out around the same time and they looked the same. I didn't watch either. He's the honey. Fuck. I didn't watch either of them.
You know what? I watched that new Nick Frost movie on Shutter about the evil cab driver. Oh, you have to tell us about that at the end because I'm not even sure what you're talking about. Ooh. Yeah. I already told the boys this. But I'm sipping on a nice PD glass of LaFroig. For those of you not watching on YouTube. I got some Johnny Walker red. I have a beekey Santori whiskey. Name the whiskey. Rob has his Stanley ice water. Ice water. I got some water too. You know, you gotta wash it down.
Hell yeah. Well, I do that noise because we were talking about the grudge. The grudge. And I know what you're thinking. I saw this high school. Well, you're this come out. That boy just shit out of my dogs. Did it? Did it hurt me like 2002? 2002? Yeah. 2004. I think it. 2004. OK. Yep. So you know, they remade it in 2020, which I almost watched on accident while I was. Yes. Thank you for this. So you've been watching it with our friend, Jamie Mitchell.
Remember, we saw it with her and a few of you. We saw it with I did see in theaters. I will call it classic has been 20 years. It reminds me of a younger childhood of mine, not young, young childhood. That's the year we graduated. So it's we were just going out of high school. Yeah. And I remember it being pretty scary when I saw it. I thought it came out. It was it wasn't much else out quite like it, except for I think the ring was just before this, right? Yeah, just just before this.
I think the ring started the let's remake. The gap in the store, you know, which is the blueprint for what you guys and I have always been talking about the last couple of hours is the right, the 2000s era of wanted paranormal movies. But movies like this are the reason that became commercially viable. Totally. Start with a ring in 2002 and then this came in 2004 and then that's right. Then ring two. They have the same they have the same coloring. They have the same tone.
They have the same vibe. They have similar looking antagonists. So yeah, yeah, it's very that's why you know, take take you back. Ring you like the ring, right? Rob come on. Yeah. Yeah. It's it's about the grudge. It's like a grudge. I think the grudge, which was better. I think the grudge edges the ring out just a little bit only because of Sarah Michelle Geller. Yeah. Oh, I take Naomi watch over Sarah Michelle Geller. And he did a tough one. That's why you wrong. You know what?
Sarah Michelle Geller is there. If you want a hand job at the movie theater and then when you watch is there, if you want a mature woman to just, you know, show you. I'm sure Sarah. Sarah Michelle Geller. Like, you know, she's, she's married to Freddie Prince. Yeah. That's true. Like the last 30 years. Yeah. So I think, you know, the name we watch basically tried to become relevant. And then people were like, you're just a garbage actor. She just disappeared after the ring. Who?
I mean, I'm sure she'll pop up on a show time series eventually. Rob, just like, Michelle Geller, because he wants to get close to Freddie Prince Jr. That's true. I like both. They're both great. Did I tell you I met Freddie Prince Jr. at Comic Con last year? Oh, I wanted him to sign my 24 poster, but he notoriously hated 24 and key for Sutherland. And so I, and I gave him the poster I apologize. I said, listen, I know you didn't have the best experience on the show, but I really liked it.
And he goes, oh, no, worry, man. No one had a good experience on that show. I hate this fucking guy. It was like, you read about these grudges, but you think, come on, no one's really going to be like that. He was super proud of that. He talked about it. He only watched his 56 and Sarah Michelle goes 47. So the guy's, oh my God, now that made me feel old. That makes me feel old. Dude, it's pretty rough. We grew up watching Sarah Michelle Geller.
And, you know, she was obviously like, I know we did last summer, cruel intentions, scream to. Wow. And there's coffee, the vampire slayer, obviously. So, the Ami Watts King Kong, I watched that recently with Jack Black. That was pretty good. Well, after watching this, I actually watched it with commentary. I didn't quite sneak in a reviewing. I have seen it many times though. Yes. So I just, I have the DVD. I just busted out with commentary, watched all the features.
And it did shift in my mind a little bit to when it came out, I thought it was this big budget horror thing, Sarah Michelle Geller produced by Sam Raimi. And after learning more about it, it really was a smaller project with people, awesome people having a lot of fun. Although Sam Raimi wasn't on set, which would really bump me out if I was in the movie, you know. Yeah, he wasn't there. Yeah. He just produced. Yeah, him and Rob Taper, obviously, Ted Raimi's in it. So. Yeah, that's right there.
Friends. Yeah. So let's jump into her. Yeah. Carmelo, do I always forget, let's do the synopsis. So Carmelo, for the thing that need a refresher on what happens in the grudge, Carmelo's going to provide that. That's exactly right. So the grudge opens up, the grudge is cool because it jumps around storylines a little bit. So I'll try to break it down for you, the order they give it to us, but it's not chronological. So we see a man kill himself to kick the movie off with a bang.
We're not really sure why it's the president from Independence Day, Bill Pullman. Okay. President Whitmore kills himself. And the story moves to a small home where an old woman suffering from dementia is being cared for in Japan. And her caretaker is murdered by some entity that lives in the house. And Sarah Michelle Geller is an American living in Japan who is sent to replace her or to fill in for her, only to find a small Japanese boy locked in a closet and taped up in a closet there.
But when you do it in Japan, you have to do when you punish your kids. You go to Airbnb in China, you see it. A little Japanese person. It's the Japanese person. Yeah. So the closet is the Japanese person. The closet itself is the yes. Okay. The whole movie is Japanese, Bert Young, as you find out in the ending. But yeah, it turns out there's no little boy. It turns out this house is super haunted.
This family had recently moved in with their elderly mother and all of them were beset upon by some ghost of a woman and her son and apparently a ghost cat. And they all end up dead. They're found dead in the attic after we get their story. And then Sarah Michelle Geller is trying to figure out what the hell's going on. And so she investigates, turns out there was a murder at the house and you find out the dude who killed himself to beginning was having an affair with the woman who lived there.
And she was super crazy pants obsessed with him. And then when her husband found out he was also super crazy pants and drowned the kid, not exactly clear how he killed her, but he might have stabbed her to death and wrapped her up in plastic and buried her in the attic and and Bill Pullman's character either killed himself because he was the first one getting haunted or from guilt because he finds all their dead bodies.
Sarah Michelle Geller burns the house down because you know what in Japan it turns out if like you die when you're really angry or sad, it's like a curse and it's like a tattoo. It kind of runs with the land, you know, kind of like a liquor license and Illinois runs with the land. And so they're like, oh, burn the fucking house down, which helps nothing at all because of course we get our final jump scare. Yep. The ghost is still out there.
And when it comes anywhere near that house, that ghost is just on you like white on sushi rice for the rest of your life. Once you walk through that gate, I kind of wish I would have watched it. Yeah. Yeah. It was. There's some genuinely, I guess if we move into first impressions, there are some genuinely cool visuals, all of which I'm sure were ripped off the Japanese version.
I think that's probably what they adapted was the some of the like iconic imagery of like the woman under the sheet is great or the kid looking through the bars or the stairs or the way he screams is great. And I thought the movie was scary. I like the way they told the story. The only thing I didn't like is this movie lacks a clear strong protagonist. It's got Sarah Michelle Geller, but she has no real story to speak of.
She has no motivation or or character arc, which you know, it's fine if you just want to see scary shit. It's a great ghost movie. But it stopped me from really connecting with it and caring really if anybody lived or died. Like this one woman, she's barely there at all. Her brother moves in and she's the one with the famous scene where she gets like dragged under the sheets. And that's probably the best sequence actually in the whole movie.
She gets like followed home from work and and all that. That's all very scary. And she's a nice lady. She's not like one of those bitchy characters where you kind of wanted to die. She does nothing wrong to anybody. But I still didn't care she lived because I didn't know shit about her and in care shit about her. Yep. You didn't develop a story for her. Yeah. Yeah. You know, I mean, she's on her way home from work. They don't even bother to tell you where she works.
Like you just don't connect with these characters. But is it spooky? Is it fun? Absolutely. So grudge. I get to give it a positive review for that reason. But I like to ring better because the ring does have a stronger, you know, through life. The ring would be better if only they would have murdered that whiny kid. Slow down. And on screen. Oh, they don't murder him, huh? That's right. Nope. They give the little bitch a sequel. That's right. That's right. That's right. And that one.
Well, you think what's your well, I guess we've sort of heard about the grudge from you Rob. What do you think about the grudge overall? Yeah. It's it's it's it's I remember when it came out and everybody was. It's terrifying and I mean, it has it has one, I guess mediocre kind of jump scare. If you're scared of tiny Asian children, which, you know, I'm not who is it? So make a bullet. I mean, like Carmelo said, the story really doesn't make a lot of sense.
There really isn't a. Oh, there's not really a character you care about in the entire film. I mean, I think for the for like the early 2000s, like the new metal horror movies, that like comes to that's what they are. They're new, they're new, they're new metal horror movies. Um, I mean, in this one's not, this one is like power man, 5,000 of new metal. It's not even a biscuit quality. Um, like Blair Witch, book of shadows, too, is so much better than this movie.
Is that the lid biscuit of, of, of four movies? Yeah. And then, and then like if you really want to go like Lincoln Parks reanimation, um, you know, you have like the remakes of the American horror movies like House of Wax with Paris Hilton. Um, and then when Michael Bay, through his head in and started doing Texas Chainsaw and Friday the 13th, oh nine and some of these other ones. So like for me, I remember everybody talking about this. I think we watched it like on a rip DVD or something.
And it was okay, but I don't remember anybody ever lining up to watch it again. Yeah. It just, it was like I said remake a Japanese sequel and a crossover with the ring. Yeah. Did it get a crossover? Yeah. So in 2015, they as an April fool's joke, they said they were going to do the ring versus the grudge, but it was so well received that they greenlit the project. Really? It's the Japanese though. They didn't make an American version of this. Okay. And it happened, right? It did happen.
It's supposed to be decent, actually. Okay. I do remember seeing that like the two antagonists bursting each other. Yeah. It's basically some woman watches the videotape and then the only way she can stop Samara or whatever her Japanese name is is to pitter against Kyoko from this movie. Wow. Did you guys see the second one or the 2020 remake that maybe I haven't seen either of the 20, 20 remake and it's, it's actually in my opinion much better. I thought it was pretty good.
I wanted to see this one. When Lin, Lin, Lin Shea isn't it. There's actually some Gore. They actually throw a plot in it a little bit more. Like I said, for like the new metal horror movies like Jeepers Creepers, there's just the list goes on and on and on in movies that are so much better than I think it's because like, I mean, when we were watching like Japanese horror movies, my buddy was really into them. It just it was like Takashi Mike and other movies like that.
They were just really out of this world wild horror movies like there's some crazy ones out there. Yeah, like Ted Suo, the Iron Man and stuff. Yeah. I honestly think when they remade it, like the US couldn't translate it. Yeah. They couldn't they couldn't translate the the actual feel and vibe of like Ju-on and all the other actual real. Yeah. Yeah. I mean, I think it was the horror man. Well, we're going to talk about it. It was it was well, it was made by the same people.
And they just had American actors. So we'll talk about that. I can get to the to the numbers though. But yeah, I all just say my first thought. I saw it with Danny. I was genuinely scared the first time I saw it. It was one of the scary movies I had seen in 2004 up until that point. And I remember coming home that night and being pretty freaked out going to bed. And you know, it's in a modern house. It's in a closet that has an attic in it.
There's at that point when I came home, there was the attic was right outside of my door. So like, oh, fuck. But I was generally scared when I first saw it. But now I see it again. And again, it's like, oh, I saw I remember these visuals and these moments coming up. But like Carmella said, even too, like there wasn't a lot of backstory like Doug who he was working at a restaurant where they there for him. She was a social worker. So he needed to get a credit to be to help take care of this lady.
Like they could have done more into that, but I think they just wanted to the whole like betrayal of marriage aspect. And then the husband going crazy and murdering his family. And mostly focused on that more. But I think in Japan, those things, those like unsaid subtext means a lot more in Japan. Totally. Like the overwhelming guilt of infidelity or these other things like that or the, you know, the, the way that the father reacted or the husband.
So I think maybe some of those things are unsaid and they just the audience expects it. It's, there's a cult. There's something weird between the visuals and the vibes of this movie and how you're supposed to feel. Because when you rewatch it again, like I watched it and it did kind of scare me, but I'm not sure if it's scared because it was so hyped up.
Everybody was like, oh, this, you know, this new, this new Japanese horror stuff is just going, you're, you saw, I was already a little like probably, you know, primed for it. Yeah. There was a lot of non-verbals, a lot of just like high-tense moments without talking, you know. So it was definitely, oh, they talk about how, well, Takashi Shimizu, the director talks about how it, it's hard to translate to the US.
And there were some things that were in the film that wouldn't be in it in Japan and vice versus. But in Japan, this is the lore of the film is sort of just understood and accepted. Whereas for example, in the US, they had that whole rooftop scene where the chief has to explain to Sarah Michelle Geller what the hell is going on. And he said that scene would not exist, doesn't exist in the Japanese version because it's just sort of not.
Which is like, maybe some Americans like need that drawn out, but I like knew what was going on before that point. Some people, you know, actually had an experience. That was very much like what they wanted because I was streaming the movie on, I don't know, movie sphere or something like that where I got a free trial to watch the movie. And it was one of those really bad streaming jobs where they stripped the movies in movie subtitles. Because they, you know what I mean?
So they, whenever they were speaking, I had no translation. Yeah. Large parts of exposition, including at the end of the movie, I didn't get because they're speaking strictly in Japanese. And even when I turn on English subtitles, it doesn't pick that stuff up. It just really translates to speaking Japanese at the bottom. So I missed a lot of that. Now of course, I understand what was going on. You could tell from my details.
But, you know, in America, that stuff's got to be more spoon fed for Rob's point. The reveal of the father killing everybody, which was pretty clear by the time they revealed it. It's like 30 seconds long. It's quick flashes. It's like, you know, and in it, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I, I can totally see an American audience being like, who's that guy? Because it's really just first appearance in the movie. It's my mom. You could use the picture. Remember the picture.
What's happening here? Come on. What is this? What's happening? Right. Scottie, you're right. It's clearly part of the family, but he just doesn't appear on screen. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. Who's that guy? You know, obviously you put together like he's the husband that's killing family. That was in the picture. It's a good thing my mom and dad got divorced so many years ago, because if they were to watch a movie together together, it would be her going. Now, who's that? And my dad going, huh?
What? I don't even know what just happened. Oh my God. You just be a nightmare. Yeah. I actually got a free version. I saw one with ads on Plex and I had to turn subtitles on and it wasn't translating the Japanese, but like towards like the last like 30 minutes of the movie, it started translating it. I'm like, whoa. Hey, I can understand. Oh, nice. Well, I watched it on DVD. Nice. Video disc. Yeah. That's good. You know, physical meeting a fan. I am not, but it's a funny thing.
The same exact thing happened with this film as with when we covered 28 days later. I had it from Blockbuster when they used to give you the actual movie in the actual case, albeit in their case that had the actual slip cover on it. To rent in case you wanted to just keep it and then you could just pay the money, they would just charge your account if you just kept it. And this is another yet another movie that I just kept and had special features on it. This one looked better though.
It looked a lot better than 20 days later. I remember that. I remember that. I think you used to be in my collection. Yeah, I don't know. I don't know. So I'll cover some numbers here. Yeah, what are some numbers of this? So the grudge, which was based on the remake of Shimazoo's 2002, Zhuan course, it debuted in October 22nd or 24th. There's two sides. 2004 and it opened up with a $39 million opening weekend. Oh yeah, by the way, the budget's 10 million.
So estimated 10 million opened up 39 million in US and Canada and it grossed 110 million US Canada and then for a final 187.2 million worldwide. Okay. They made some money. They made some money. They made a second one. There's a franchise now. There's a third too. Yeah, I did see that. That's right. I have seen them all. It's been so long. I couldn't even tell you a scene from any of the other ones. They've made over 300 million through all three, like 320 million through all three. So not bad.
Well, yeah, let's talk about it. So this is a remake. What happened was Sam Raimi, Rob Tapert, Ted Raimi, were saws you on in theaters. I don't know what theater where it was playing. I don't know what was going on. But they just fucking loved it and thought we need to bring this to the American public. They didn't mention that maybe there was some hoopla about the ring and this was similar to it. Yeah. Well, you don't say that in commentary.
No. But they wanted to have the same director, they wanted the film made in the same locale and with the same crew to keep as much of the original vibe as possible. They just wanted to replace the actors with American actors. They wanted it to be in English. And so they hired the writer to and I didn't pull the names in front of me. They hired the writer to go ahead and rewrite it in a way that there's a reason why these Americans are just in Japan.
Obviously, I don't know if they did the best job after our opening conversations. But that was the idea. Steven Susuko. Steven Susuko, the writer. That's right. But that was the intent. Sam Raimi and their intent was to take something they loved and show it to the American public because that's the best way they could. That's the most noble way of doing that. Yeah. Keep it at local with the people who already made it. If they did decide to fly everyone out, they shot everything in Japan.
They kept the same director, the same crew and everything. A lot of the actors obviously were local there as well. But we'll get to some of them in a second here. Yeah, what was it they had between the three of them, they had sort of a saying about this movie, the innocent must suffer. The guilty will be punished. The dead will rise. Nice. Interesting. So my real quick thought on that, by the way, is, you know, I expected the story of this woman dying to be like much harsher.
And it was pretty bad, you know, watching your kid drown and everything like that. But you sort of, I mean, did she have, like, a bill, like bill polman's like nail clippings and shit in a, in a diary. I mean, she was obsessed. Yeah, she was like, I mean, that was part of the voiceover I didn't get. But I sort of gathered from the journal and his name repeating and stuff like that. I was like, oh, so she's supposed to be crazy too. So she's like a, she was fuck her nuts to begin with too, right?
Like she would already cocoo for cocoa puffs. Oh, definitely, definitely not smart. Yeah. I'm trying to cover up your, your infidelity with like the only white man in like a 50 mile radius. You're sorry, you let our sorry kilometers in Japan. Nice. I can eat you all. And so you're going to like, I want how did you get his finger no clippings and hair and everything else? And why did bill polman even stay? Like you just dodged the biggest bullet. Get on a plane and get the hell out.
Yeah. Tell room, though, right? There. I mean, you just leave now. Like, and I and I understand like it's supposed, maybe that's why it doesn't ring as well. Like further down, but the whole basis is in Japan. If some really, really, really bad shit happens, your house will get haunted. Yeah. That happens everywhere. Like that literally is the blueprint for a haunted house. Any where. Like, yeah. Like, I mean, like that's it. That's true. That's how this works, right?
Like, like, nobody's like, ah, man, your house is haunted as fuck. What? Oh, just some mediocre stuff, you know? Yeah. I think that ghost that that ghost stub just tell one time, waking up in the middle of the night and take a piss. And he's still really, really about it. No, some horrific shit happened. And that's why insane asylum's in other places are haunted. Like, I agree with you. But my call is what why bill polman even go to the house? Like he saw these letters, this girl stalking him.
Does he have to go see her for some reason? Like, say, hey, nope, I'm not going to be a part of this. I'm married. Sorry. Like, why is he even walking? Like, ah, he's, he's those are the answers that we want. Like I said, maybe culturally it's different over there. Maybe, but like, I don't know. There's like something at least for me. It's like the Colombo part. Like I want it. I actually don't care any like what Carmelo said about how Sarah Michelle goes. Not really like a real protect.
I don't really care. Yeah, about, but like I'm more interested in what happened to create the ghostesses. Totally. Yeah. Hmm. Let me get. Maybe she had herpes. Yeah. I tell you, what do I go away? No, it doesn't. That's that's that's now. I think one of the creepiest ones is when Sarah, Sarah Michelle Gellers going through the pictures and you just see her in the background of every single photo. I'm like, oh my god, that's for you. That's that's creepy as hell.
Well, so even I mean, I'll just where you even start from the opening here. They talked about the credits. How it they like the design and Sam Raimi sort of. So he liked the hair stuff from the original all the long black hair, Oliver, everything. So you can see it throughout the credits. You can see the pair of the credits. They had Christopher Young is composed the score. He's someone Sam Raimi has worked with before and demanded to have him again on this one.
They filmed this whole house was built on a sound stage, Toho Studios in Tokyo. This is the largest, most famous studio in Tokyo. They filmed the Godzilla movies here, Seven Samurai. I mean, everything. Wow. Seven Samurai is fantastic. The house was on the main street from Seven Samurai. Hell yeah. They built this whole thing. What they actually did was they built the exterior of the house and the first floor on one sound stage.
And then they built the whole interior of the second floor on another sound stage, along with the attic. So they it was all to scale to size, but they could of course remove walls, sneak into areas so they could film the original. Juan was filmed just in a house on location. And they wanted to have a little more access to be able to let Takashi do what he wanted with this one and just have a little more wiggle room. Oh yeah. So pretty much everything was on the sound stage.
What's funny is the outdoor stuff, there were no extras. I guess it's, I don't know, customary but not looked upon weirdly to just go out and film in public in Japan. And so when she gets on the subway train, they're just getting on a subway train with the camera and her and filming her. So even that baby was just there crying. I mean, maybe they picked some of the featured extras.
In general, she said, you know, in America, this is Sarah Michelle Geller talking, saying, you know, in America, people are just sort of ostracum away with the camera and we'll do whatever. Yeah. She said these people are just so buried in their everyday lives that they're just like, whatever the fuck, who gives a fuck? They look like look over and somebody shooting a shooting somewhere with the camera like, oh, yeah. Okay, whatever.
And the same with people, the shots of out crossing the street, walking across the street, all that stuff in the beginning. And then later on when she's running through traffic, she's just rolled and she's randered some traffic. Splat. They didn't have stunt cars or anything like that. They said it was very different over there. America, some of those extras, some of those people that back are like, I want my sag credit. I want to get paid for this.
Yeah. It's opening a house scene where it's funny. That's why they picked Sarah Michelle Gellar, because nobody knew who the fuck. Nobody knows who she is. Yeah. And half the people probably back in 2004 did know who she was in the US. Yeah, that's right. If it was they would watch, they would have known. Well, this was postbuffy though. This was postbuffy. Yeah, but that was like WB. Yeah. That's still. You know, it's pre-scooby-do. Oh, yeah. Well, he watched Supernatural and stuff.
You watch Buffy Valparceler, Kremel? Well, I've only seen the first season and I did it to impress a girl 20 years ago and I never got back to finishing it. But I want to. It's like a big nerd thing I'm missing in my head. Yeah. Did it at least for a result? In a UTTOTPHJ? Well, naturally. I mean, UTTOTPHJ was so popular in high school. Of course. You didn't really do much. Really? Tell your listeners who might not know what that means.
Oh, who doesn't know what under the table over the fans' hand job is. Well, there you go. See, it's wanted to make sure if any new listeners are coming in. Oh, I hope she's not listening to this right now. So anyways, this opening house scene with the housekeeper and everything, that was actually initially about halfway through the movie. I don't know why or how they pulled that off. But yeah. So that's where it lived at first.
Oh, another thing worth noting is before they started production, they actually did this traditional Japanese purification ceremony by Shinto priests to make sure that everything just went well and was blessed. And because of the subject matter and nothing was. Yeah. So they talked about how the Americans showed up to this ceremony, thinking they were just going to be these bystanders letting it happen. But they had one by one participate in sort of this whole bow there, bow here.
Take this leaf, do that. Yeah, it was sort of cool, I guess, but they did that. But a lot of things were different filming wise over there. Like for instance, we move on to this other first scene where we first meet Sarah and Joe Joe is Joe the actor's name. We meet their characters in in bed and the same bed and the director was a little uncomfortable dog even shooting a scene.
Doug. Yeah. And shooting a scene with them in the same bed and in the same bedroom, just because of customary things really Japan. Yeah. That there was also 10 rain. I'll let us because if you ever watch any. Pretty popular to key to Kashi Miyake films and stuff, they're not really uncomfortable with a lot. Now. Like I mean, you ever watch like, oh God, like Invader Zim and there's a couple of other ones.
It's one scene they take, they're frying one a walk and they're hanging a guy from hooks and turn his back skin into a bowl and dump boiling fry oil in. I mean, you see everything. So like it is, I guess it's nice to know that maybe there are a couple of conservative directors over there. Yeah. I don't know, no, you close in the same bed together, but like like next door, they're filming that. Yeah. We use it like huge. We can do this. Maybe just what he wanted for.
We could burn the skin over back. But they're camping at the atty sex eats with clothes on. No. The just sort of their rigmarole while filming was different because the Ted Ramey's talked about getting yelled at because during usually in the US when they say lock it up, it, that sort of means like everyone just we're going to shoot now. And then there's a few more things after that, you know, lock it up, hold for sound, just sound speeds, all this kind of stuff.
Lock it up is like the last thing this director would say. And Ted Ramey wasn't used to that. So he wouldn't really like completely lock it up. He'd still be chewing on his donut or whatever. Yeah. He got yelled at a couple of times. He's like, oh, fuck. Sorry. I guess that means right now. I'm used to action. Yeah. Well, and apparently I don't like, there's no way. It's just hard to believe this is true. Sarah Michelle Geller, a couple other actors said that he didn't say action at first.
Like they would just had the loud clapping of the clapboard and then they were expected to just start. And so they had to tell him, can you please say action? Like can you just say action and then we'll start. He was like, okay. He actually didn't really speak English. It was they had a translator on set and she did most of the translating. He spoke a little bit, but there was a huge language barrier between the, even the director and the whole crew and the actors on this.
So after they'd cut, they'd have to go talk to them. Was it was that good? And then they translated through the translator. Yeah. Yeah, that'd be tough. They talked about how some of the direction was a little unclear until they had gone back and forth. He would say, oh, be more weak in this scene. And then it would come out that really you'd say like be more vulnerable or you would say, be look more frightened. You know, things like that. So yeah.
Yeah. Um, and they still had to take off their shoes in the house, even though it was a set. They still wanted to. Yeah. The customary customary of taking off of the shoes was still a huge deal even when going into a pretend house. So they had the tons of shoes. I saw video tons of shoes at the same has the same response for them. Yeah. Yeah. I saw those slippers lined up. I mean, even in the first scene with the whole family.
But I saw some behind the scenes where they must everyone else must keep their shoes the crew and and such. And it was just piles of shoes just. Oh, my God. So they were shooting the film barefoot with socks and our barefoot, the camera. Instead of a photographer with all the camera. Yeah. That's crazy. Um, but yeah, moving, moving on to the film, sort of a funny little note.
Sarah Michelle Geller starts out as seen by hanging some laundry and they had to do a few takes because she just like never hung laundry in her life. And the director was like, you don't look natural hanging laundry. I grew up a man had and we don't hang dryer laundry. I thought that it had the hang dryer laundry like out the window. I don't have enough room for for dryers maybe in the 50s. Yeah. Hey, I hung dry my laundry when we were in Spain. They didn't they didn't have any dryers there.
Just just washing machines. The boy, the little Asian boy that Rob's afraid of actually hates cats. And of course, the old days have him handled cat most of the time. As you should. He is like a cat within a cat. Yeah. Chris is the only cat I can just exists in the background. Chris is around. He does much more than that. Chris has his own vibe. Like Chris Chris is the vibe. He's got his cat. He's at the tone in the room when he walks in.
Like you everyone bowed out of the Chris, the Persian goddess guy. He'll scare the he'll scare the shit out of you on your nice stand in the basement at three o'clock in the morning. I'll get him. Yes, he will open his mouth and he is. He is silent. Well, speaking of that, I guess it's pretty apparent in the movie, but part of the lore is supposed to be that the kid and the cat died and then became one. Oh, yeah. It's like a kid. I don't explain any of that to us. I kind of got the boy there.
I got that. I mean, I got that the cat was a ghost. They didn't realize it became one, but it gets to make some of how they melded some. Yeah, he's like a boy cat. They came together and they're one. They were telling me, oh, which is my. I just, I just thought they, I just thought the dad murdered somebody on the spectrum. Well, there's that too. Yeah. Well, the cats here too open a fucking drug the cat too.
They, although some of this movie seems CGI heavy, they actually Takashi tries and in Japan, they try to do everything for real, but not just effects, things like all the pictures in the movie, whereas in the US, they would Photoshop all of them. They actually had the actors go out, take all these pictures and do photo shoots. Why? Yeah, I don't know. They just, that was real.
And they're listening to someone on the, and the message machine, that's the message machine playing that thing because they would usually just do that. 80 are. Yeah, exactly. That's cool. And then although there is a lot of CGI add-ons, a lot of what, Kyoko, Kyoko, Kyoko, the, you know, our antagonist does is he's doing that.
He's sort of a contortionist, for example, the first time we sort of see a lot of hair, a lot of black when she is in the bedroom and the crazy ladies in there and Sarah Michelle Geller looks over her shoulder. They have her on like a platform, some wires, but she's contorting her body as well. It's painted black, has a ton of black over, has the long hair wig on, and they did add some things in post obviously.
But she's doing all that and they talk about how like the end of the famous scene when she's crawling down the stairs. That's just her on some hardwood-ass stairs. They have fun. They have fun. Obviously, I think it's obvious they did some frame rate stuff where he's more sped up, slow down, sped up, slow down, or jerky. I don't know that a human body could do that, but it's just her crawling down the stairs. And she fucking made that look creepy.
I mean, she's the same actress from Jouon as well. So they kept her. There's in that too. Mikako Fuji. And just said there was no complaints from her at all. They were constantly dropping blood in her contacts and her eyes to make her eyes all bloody. They were constantly putting her in these positions with no padding and extra support. So. Sounds a lot like another actress I know that lets do horrible things to her to make a great movie out of. Jesse of course, in the new Name the Demon.
If you guys haven't checked it out yet, we have a Blu-ray live on Kickstarter. You can go there and order it. It's going to be awesome. Yeah. It is. And by the time you're listening to this, we'll have revealed, because we're already funded, we're over funding and we're going to. Yeah. And thanks to all of you and we're grateful. So by the time you're listening to this, we'll have revealed that we're doing the VHS copy of the movie.
So if you really love physical media, go on to Kickstarter and get yourself a VHS edition of Name the Demon. I think it's fucking awesome. Is that going to be? I'm going to get my hands on. Sure. I don't know how many of those. After living through two hurricanes and having no power and internet for like two weeks, all awesome for people that like physical media, but fuck physical media. That's just like living in the dark ages.
Because you had, because that's what you were living until you had to live on weeks. Oh yeah, oh yeah, like having to get up and like change your DVD out. Yeah. And then you have to apply all of DVDs. It's a VHS. You can rewind it too. None of these are good. And see with me, I have to change like my source input and my surround sound setting. Yeah. Well, at least you had a, like what if you didn't have the DVDs or the, or the, or the, I didn't have any, I didn't have any.
I had to go to like, goodwill. Oh wow. And like, you know, like a dollar a pop and try to find something interesting. Think whatever you saw. I discovered also like DVDs for some reason have regions completely forgot about that. So I spent a couple of bucks and we're got DVDs that were for the Euro region. So they wouldn't play. And yeah, no, no, make sure you bring those with you when, when you go to Europe, then you can get your money. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
As a guy who doesn't even have a passport. Yeah. I'll be sure to hold on. I'll be sure to hold on to the DaVinci code that I bought for $3 from Goodwill that always and like South Africa. That has a quality Hans Zimmer score to it. I'll have you know, I know, but it also has the same score on Amazon for 99 cents. It's so, so the score is so good. Well, I know it's, I got it. So if anybody wants a pile of mediocre horror movies, I will sell them to you.
Okay. Hey, you never, you know what I would keep those there could be a hurricane. No, nope, nope. Absolutely not. I will, I will read a book. Yeah. I'm, yeah, now, I'm on a Kindle. A Kindle. With the Kindle. You have to have physical book media. You have physical media. No, no, my mom introduced me to this thing called a Kindle. Kindle. Oh, your mom introduced you to that. I guess it's brilliant. Oh, it's, it's awesome.
Liz, Liz. So the hallway they built in the upstairs hallway actually gets smaller and more narrow as you walk further down it. They wanted that visual look when looking down it with the camera. I could see that. Also, director Takashi Amizu does the vocal sound. He is the vocal sound. That's correct. He's the, he is. That was really cool. It's a good call. It actually originated in a scene that they cut from the movie. He's a little down the well.
She gets her next, so we, so you already talked about this Carmelo, I think, where it didn't really show how she died. But you assume she gets stabbed or something. Right, right, exactly. Yeah, but actually there was a scene showing her die, showing her husband snap her neck in such a way that those were her. Final gurgling sounds. Oh, see, that's awesome. That would have been cool. That would have been really cool. That would have been really cool.
Yeah. I think this movie does smack a little bit of a studio cut it down. There's a couple of. Well, so there is a reason they, they Sam Raimi, they wanted to make it PG 13 though. They wanted to do it for a wide audience appeal. They had to cut a lot of shit because of that, including these scenes we're talking about. There is an unrated cut out there though, you can, I think you just buy off Amazon that will include a lot of these scenes in it.
But then, and maybe a director's cut is what it is. Sam Raimi was thinking it ran about the same length because then it does leave out some of those expositions and scenes like the rooftop and things like that that they wouldn't have in Japan. Right. So I think it is out there, I don't know if that particular scene is in it, but a couple more others are such as the, the drowning scene with the boy. There was a lot more to it and it was cut down drastically because that was a big issue.
The ratings board had was harm coming to a child and anything like that. So that was one of the things they lost, but a lot of scenes got cut down. I think there's a little more blood in it too with, there was with Yoko, there was another scene that got cut Bill Pullman sees. This is toward the end. He sees the dead, Hayako, then he turns around and walks and he looks into the bedroom. You don't really see what he sees at that moment. And he sort of walks away and in shock by the time that.
Sir Michelle Geller walks in, you see what is the kid in the dead or no, you see the dad's feet hit the wall and sort of hung himself. I guess what it, what it was before is the dad is hung by Hayako's hair and the kid is actually pushing his legs like swinging him. Oh God. Yeah, we're also. That's terrifying, but now wait, now is that meant to apply the kid was alive because like like Pullman's talking to the kid when he's like, oh, I guess your mom's going to be late.
And then he goes and looks for her and finds the dead mother. I assume he was talking to the ghost then. I think it's the ghost of the kid pushing the dead. Yeah, you know what I mean, probably the kid looked all pale and fucked up. That makes more sense. That's what I'm thinking. I'm assuming that anyways. Another thing. Yeah, no, another thing about that sequence that's sort of interesting is that. Uh, Sarah Michelle Geller and Bill Pullman were never, they were never on set the same time.
And so. Oh, they shot a lot of that back and forth. Although I wonder if it held true at the very last part of that scene where she actually kneels down next to him. I can see the back and forth camera work and then even her before she kneels down because you don't see her face. But then when she kneels down next to him, I'm almost like they had to have this. She like touches his knee and then like he goes over to like go up the closet and like brushes her shoulder even.
So I don't know how she herself said I wasn't there during this, but maybe it was pertaining literally just to this sequence in the hall. When they're looking back and forth. So that's probably what that was about. Well, I think some of the other times when they pulled the camera away so quickly from like the horror, like the light to light the gory scene. So maybe that was a PG 13, PG 13 move. Like when the Yoko, the first caretaker had her jaw ripped off and you always see like a very glimmer.
Yeah, but that would have been a lot more brutal. But it would have liked the camera order that just like stayed on her for like a little bit longer. This guy who plays the police chief is in a lot of Japanese films. He's in audition. I haven't watched audition, but I know it's popular and a couple others. But he's also a rock star over there. Like they're Mick Jagger or something. Wow. So that was interesting to have him on set and everything.
He was in like LA for eight years or something doing film there too. So I don't know. But I do think there was a little bit of a language barrier even still with him. The dummies and the bodies and the attic are dummies. They did full body casts on those actors to get their dead bodies up there. Yeah, that looked good for sure. Yeah. Also, when we get to the end and they're in the morgue that they're in a real morgue. I got a little confused because they talked about using two morgue.
One in Japan and then finishing up shots, one in Los Angeles. And they talked about being I think the one in the Japan they were in. I had a couple dead bodies in the same room and there was sort of a little bit of a weird smell. They were having to deal with and I don't know if it was the one in Japan or the one in Los Angeles. They had a lot of rats in it too. Oh God. Maybe Japan. But yeah, but then for sure at the very, very last shot, it was in Los Angeles. They were saying so.
Yeah, that's like a hospital room or that's like I guess that's a more. Yeah, I think it was a more. Okay, that's what she's walking down. Yeah. I didn't know if you guys noticed her face was like really bloody as she was coming down and then when they pan to her sitting there, it was very less bloody. Really? I didn't notice something. Wait, what the hell? She was like, brew scars blood and then she, it pans her sitting down. It's like brews are gone. Less blood.
All the actors just loved being flown out to Japan. Sarah Michelle Geller talks about her and the actor who played the guy were there for a couple days and had basically two weeks off and did all this. I'd seen him traveling and nice and all this stuff. I wonder what Freddie Prince Jr. thought about that room. Her galovanting around with her co-star. I don't know if they were together yet because they got together on Scooby Doo. You know what?
That's right because she was, yeah, it has to be where they got together. This commentary I want I listen to had weight. Actually, it was less of a cluster of fuck than I thought. It has like seven people on it. When I first started watching it, it was like, oh, a seven are here. I was like, oh fuck, that's way too many people for a commentary.
It actually wasn't too bad. It had Sam Raimi, Ted Raimi, Sarah Michelle Geller, the guy who played Doug, the girl who came in his favorite sequence who died in her bed. And then the writer. And I might have been one more, but anyways, a lot of people. But she said my, she said my husband on it a couple of times. So she must have been married. And this commentary was in 2004, they said. Okay. Well, maybe, you know, maybe they were, I can't remember. I don't really know about it.
I do know that we're in the Scooby Doo's together. When they got married. It says that she filmed her scenes within three months in Tokyo. She was there for three months. Then she returned for reshoots. I think the principal photography was three months long in Tokyo. She married Freddie Prince Jr. in 2002. Okay. A couple of years. Oh, Scooby Doo was in 2002. Oh, all right. For some reason, I think that, yeah, some for some reason, I think that somehow she didn't. I came out after.
Somehow she missed out on Matthew Willard. Yeah. Too bad. I don't know. Matthew, Matthew Lillard, Freddie Prince Jr. Which, which, which I don't know. Lillard, I don't know. They, they talked about being on set, are just being there filming and having weird food, but good food ultimately. But there were American options. They would get take out from subway a lot or order some delivery subway delivery there. Nathan's hot dogs, but they said that craft services.
You could either, you had a choice when it came to your daily meal. You could either choose to eat what the crew was eating, which were all locals. Or you could have, you know, some Americanized food. And the crew, they said whatever they're reading always had eyes looking back at you. And apparently their train of thought was. If it has eyes, it's fresh. You know, the more eyes, the better. Oh, God. I mean, I can't, I can't disagree with that.
Eyes, the dog eyes or lobster eyes, fish eyes, whatever type of eyes are on there. I was like, yeah, I don't, I don't have a whole lot. That's, that's, they didn't, you know, they were yapping too much in this commentary I watched. But I just wrote a fact that Jason Bear who played Doug met Katie Strickland who plays Susan, the, the, I guess the sister of the other, the guy that died. Southern lady whose name is spelled K-A-D-E-E-K-D.
So, so Jason Bear and Katie Strickland, um, met on the set of this film. And she's wrong. She's wrong. Yes, she is. They don't know where she's from. Let me tell you an actress. They begin dating, due to their interest in Japanese culture. This is why they accepted the roles of the film too. You know, and despite not sharing any scenes together, the film they eventually married two years later. That's probably that is why she said four times or so on the commentary.
And I was just like, what the fuck is she talking about? Um, when they said, oh, why did you bring us to Japan? And she just kept saying, I am so glad you brought us to Japan. It literally changed from Georgia. It's like literally changed my life. It literally changed my life. So that she must have to talk to you. She met Jason Bear. They're from Georgia and Rob. Yeah, the spelling of that name. Definitely. I felt Georgia. I definitely felt Georgia.
And then I, I've done closer and it is definitely Georgia. Yep. There's a lot of KDs and K-Lees and K-Lee, like K-A-Y-L-E-E, and then K-L-E-I-G-H-L-E-I-G-H-L. There's a lot of that kind of fuckery in Georgia. Looks like she's still with Jason Bear. She's still married. She definitely owns a boutique somewhere in a small sleepy town. Like Thomasville, Georgia. Yeah. That loses money consistently. But it's- Probably owns.
Remember we went to that one that older blonde girl was trying to get people to know. Oh, that's Kevin's. That's way different. That's Kevin's makes money now. Kevin's are good people. I forgot what was even in there. Everything but guns. Guns, dishes. It was a little bit of a couple of half-s. A half-s. I got a boutique and then the other- oh yeah, puffer's vests. Like it's the kind of place you can go to get like little fox figurine miniatures and then also like an assault rifle.
Where did you get that? It's perfectly. What was that store that I almost got that puffer that that crew member got the puffer? Oh, that was the great outdoors or something in Thomasville, Georgia. It was like that white and blue puffer, right? Yeah, I got one. I ended up going there. Yeah, I bought that Marmot one. I still got it. Yeah, the red, white and blue one. I see it had this nice retro coloring to it. Scotty and I were in Thomasville, Georgia shooting a film. I told you to get it.
And Rob lived nearby and was hanging out with us and yeah, we went to that store. I might buy this puffer. I was like, I don't know. And Rob's like, I don't know. I might buy it because they had his size. They had my size. And I was like, nah, I'm gonna wait. And then the next day one of the crew members on the film was wearing it. You thought that you were wearing that. Pull him up. Pull out the bloody tread on. Funny story. Funny story. Funny story.
I still have never worn it because I have, yeah, because I have like every, when you know my puffer collection, I have that that puffer hasn't gotten into rotation yet. I live in Colorado and I only own two puffers and Rob has like, that's 12. Oh, oh, minimum. And that's not counted. Oh, my God. Oh, my God. I only have one. Holy shit. I have one. Rob, I have, I know for a fact that I have, I have four block puffers. Kabil, do you have any other puff? I have a thicker puff. I don't.
Kabil is half the puffer. Yeah. His winners are winners. But see, but see Danny inspired me because he was like, I'm not sure about the hoods. I said, you know what? I'm not either. I got bought those same ones again without hoods. Oh, my God. My two have hoods. I don't have any hoods. I know what you put me up to. I just wasn't sure. I just wasn't. I mean, I don't know that anyone in Florida should even own a puffer. Well, in his win, it's rainy up in the pain handle like it was in Thomasville.
I guess. Yeah. I will discover that as long as you can cut the wind in the rain, that's all you need then. That's true. Then that R.E.I. guy got me turned on to Coda Paxi. I, yes. More expensive bougie Colorado brands. Yep. And so I got that one and one more Coda Paxi. So I got at least seven Patagonia's four or five R.E.I.s. And Rob's got to puffer problem. Someone sent help. Oh, no, I got to figure it out. I got to figure it out. Just send me a couple of them. I was getting the half problem.
I wanted to play control. You hold down. I need to buy. I only own like five hats. Well, I mean, again, we, those are rookie numbers. On my desk right now, there's at least 30. There's at least 20. All right. Well, let's move away from Rob's. I see Katie Strickland's in Chicago Fire currently in three episodes. She's a lot of questions for watch that show. I never did either. I just noticed that's what she's doing. All right. Well, let's, let's move on down the line to what did you watch?
I watched the grudge. It was great. Yeah. You know what we haven't. We missed the segment last time I believe and we haven't done it in a while. I've watched so many things I've completely forgot about. But more recently, I did just watch apartment to a or seven a seven a apartment seven a it's on Hulu. All right. It's on Paramount plus actually. It's, it's awesome. It's a, it's a prequel to Rosemary's baby is what you find out at the end. Oh, that is on. What the call?
Oh, yeah, Kathleen was talking about that one. Yeah, that's why I watch because she just talked about it and it has the same. Same girl from, I don't know. She was in Ozark, which I've never watched, but she's also plays in that inventing Anna that Shannon was all about. Oh, yeah. I know who you're talking about. I think I inventing Anna is good. Yeah. I was watching this rush that was awesome. It's the same actor. That is the same girl. It's fantastic. Yeah. It's a great name of you.
Julia Gardner. Julia Gardner. Yeah. It's pretty good. It's a pretty good movie. It's a nice little, it's got an old fashioned vibe to it. It actually takes place in, you know, it's a prequel to Rosemary's baby. So it's like the 60s or whatever. Yeah, it's, it had some black swan vibes because she's a dancer and there's some dark stuff. Colties, satanic stuff going on. So it's pretty good. I also. Gosh, watching some other stuff too. I don't even. Oh, I just watched trap last night.
It was all right. How was that? Yeah, the M night show. I was a sleep shirt under long sleep shirt. Josh Hartnett. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, yeah. It's hard. He ended up doing a pretty good job. I thought, but it's hard to understand if some of the acting in it was a little bit weird. But I'm wondering if that was M night show, being like, here's how you should act and deliver this line. Yeah. Because he's sort of. I like that. That cabin movie and I did with it was Batista, the Rassler. Yeah, Batista.
Oh, yeah. That was pretty good. I want to watch the new. What is the evil say no evil or whatever with the guy you tell the crush on Macatown Hardy. Yeah, that's the one. Everybody. Everybody. What happened? Tom Hardy happened. I got I went on a deep rabbit hole with Tom Hardy pet videos and dog videos and all of my charity work. He does her dogs. Yeah. He's a he's a big BJJ guy now, Rob. You can come train with me. Yeah, I did. Didn't he just win?
Yeah, he was like a tournament, like a local tournament he went to or something because they're interviewing him about something. And he talking about his his he had just wanted it, but he'd also brought a French bulldog. Oh, nice. To the interview. So the interview went off the rails. Yeah. Oh, shit. I was paid attention to his bulldog instead. The reason I briefly while I was while I leave the subject was talking about the slightly awkward, but look like a choice acting and trap was.
I think that's when you watch the happening with Mark Wahlberg. He's like, especially him and others that's just like weird performances. You know, he has no one I mean. He's definitely at a very strange. Yeah. Like John Legg was on the one happening is such a weird choice for the role, but then like in the combination, like you said, if I like Mark Wahlberg and the rest of the actors interact, it's really odd. It's just weird. Is he Mark Wahlberg in it or he doesn't play Mark Wahlberg?
He's in the happening. He won't. He's in it. And he just, you know, normally he's an acceptable actor. He's fine. But he's just delivering lines very weirdly and very. Really. And that's sort of how the trap was as well. Yeah. I think his daughter playing like a big role in it. And I shone one does too. And she does. Okay. I guess. Oh, I remember the happy. Yes. I remember that. And I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was. I was like, it's so much worse than I remember.
Actually, like it's. I think Danny's right. It's off-putting. It's just strange. It's not really the story of the plot. It's how it's. It's how p. It's not even lines. It's like how they deliver the lines or how everybody is just. It's really weird. I'm not sure what he was trying to do with it. Well, what else what what did anyone else watch? I watch I watch Thanksgiving finally I know it's a year later, but I watched that
It is good. There's some good affectionate good old campy slash your horror movie and there's they did not let off the Camerad is not let off the gory stuff. So I did like that It's had to cover we need more sequels of that. Yeah It was good more holidays. It was good. Yeah, our more things givings. Yeah, yeah Yeah, that was definitely and it's that time of the year again. So definitely a good to wonder rewatch Nice
Mellow is it still on Netflix. Yeah, it's on Netflix. Yeah I watched The Pope's exorcist Great Yeah, you didn't see it. I finally saw it was fantastic. Good shit, right? Oh Terrific terrific. I think and I what I told you has some of the same demonology, huh? It does it does have some of the same demon out which lends credibility as made the demon It's got it's even part of the plot that they need to identify the demon and stuff and that's right
And somebody gets his ear bit off. It's very similar Yeah, he gets his ear bit off too. Just kind of love Russell Crowe Going up on a vest bun wrecking shit. Yeah, oh yeah, and I love how he like opens this thing in the ground He's like, huh, let's see what's in there Yeah, it throws a match into this underground. I love that he like learned Italian
Oh, he's actually really acted in this movie. He didn't like ham it up. Yeah, really Point Robin I said that his Italian is better than an Italian actor's Italian
There are other actors around him that were just piss poor. I mean really showing off Yeah, I mean that's the part that you know is unbelievable is that it is so believable He's yeah, so for you for sure Yeah, but I really enjoyed that I'm trying to think if I'm I actually saw sorry now you're talking about it I saw or our review that said name the demon was better than Pope's exorcist Like what I saw Like this is better than Pope's exorcist at least
And I did see another one said something like at least this this actress his movie finally is one that doesn't have fucking Russell Crowe in it Yeah, it was something it was maybe was the same one or was different. I saw another I don't know if I go that far, but hey, thank you. I saw another review that said all that guy playing the husband was way more handsome than Tom Hardy Now I know I'm gonna have to go Yeah, I don't think I watched
Much Alice I've been watching some television watching Superman and lowest which is pretty good. I'm sorry. Yeah, the baby I haven't been watching anything because no you're digging a lowest in Clark this says Tyler Hecklin in it But you know, I've been too busy to watch anything because I've been busy with our awesome
Superman show besides Dean Kane. That's true. Yeah, you've been you've been with time boy, man with your son You gotta now you know the how fatherhood is you can't always watch like our rated Sage he can Still a baby Overclocked me while I watch you're very responsible that regard you did it watching you like like go to Halloween movies guys like Nothing no like friends That night I watched I worked I worked all through Halloween I was in okay was I Miami I think I was in Miami for
The food in Miami the Cuban food so good. Oh good shit, right? Oh my god the impanadas better than the Columbia Yes, actually, yes, I'm not even gonna hold back the Columbia's got fantastic food There's like no getting around it But there's something about like a hole in the wall like like a Havana Cafe Just like like dollar 50 impanadas and just loading up on them and a Cuban sandwich. That sounds pretty good That was so good. I
Over Halloween I was finishing that series on Netflix called archive 81. It was pretty good Oh, yeah, I don't know why I just I Shannon was reading a book and I had to find like an interim show just to Kill on my own and that had eight hour long episodes and let's check this out
It's pretty decent. It was came out. I don't know five six years ago on Netflix and I remember seeing it It looking interesting at the time and Yes, it was produced by James one he didn't direct it or write it or anything but produced by James one It was pretty good little show because looking for someone to watch archive 81 Hell yes, it's like a sci-fi horror sort of I was Midnight bass soon. So you told me that oh yeah
You're late to the party. I know man. I need just I need to get get all you haven't seen that either No, I have some really good performances and especially by the priest when you watch it the priest doesn't amazing Yeah, go to watch all of my finding and stuff. Yeah, I was just thinking about Oculus and we covered that Yeah, no, we haven't but it's one of my You just put about doctor sleep too Go So good. Oh man, what a great man so great. Yeah, let's go back to all these cool. That's
I watched black I watched black cab with Nick Frost. Oh, yeah, what is that what is black? I haven't seen it's it's like a it's like a It's just like a supernatural thriller There's it's a kidnapping thing Nick Frost plays the bad guy. It actually doesn't amazing as good It's good. It's good. It's good. The average kind of watch is the ending's not wonderful because it's like a supernatural
Thriller. It's a little mind Warpie, but it's good and then I'm not sure if I miss along something on the show VHS beyond That's hands down without a doubt. There's no ifans or butts. That is the best VHS movie You ever made and then I also It's pretty and it's probably one of the best anthology films since like I mean it was I don't know if it's the best one. It was airplane the airplane airplane was
I thought that was pretty good. I watched it and I mean that I mean that that airplane segment alone Yeah, arguably one of the greatest segments in like quote found footage history Period, I mean it was I don't know how they pulled it off. I don't know how they pulled it off. It's it's incredible Yeah, it's never bored I love the first the Justin Long Justin Long directed Just along it is brother Yeah, I like that one. Yeah, I just thought it was so wild and ridiculous
There was no aliens in it. Yeah, I don't know if I was probably was my least favorite one
I still I thought it was I thought I like the first one. It was super fucking First one is great, but this one just this one to me just takes it over the edge I thought it was really really good and then in comparison I even went back and started watching all the VHSs and really it's this one and the first one I really the only ones I would ever revisit but like the HS beyond was just I think it was fun Well, did you like such a fun movie?
I like every segment there was not one bad segment Katie Katie Segal dig yeah Katie Segal I'm glad I did the segment. I mean that's Segment Gary so that was scary the other one you did the which segment did she do the Space one stuck in the speech. Oh, that's right. Yeah, she keeps on transport Definitely plays with your mind. I wish I know why they did it by kind of wish you saw little you know like it's very It's kind of hazy almost yeah, that's intentional
I think if you watched it like at I think I watched it during the day. I think if you watched it at night You know, I'm super high death Yeah, you'd be able to see the contrast moron was happening in it But all I guess at all together like to be excited about a VHS movie and this thing was such a sleeper It just on my Instagram feed VHS beyond is available on shutter tonight at 8 p.m I'm like shit. That's something to watch
Uh, I watched it the next day and I was like oh, I just flored. I mean it was fun. It was really really good All the stories we're got to know something made I like the puppy thing as much or the cute whatever the dog groomer lady But I still think all together like I mean for like if you look at like VHS 99 and VHS on those movies are just Awful arguably like like like like like like two out of seven like two stories out of seven or yeah, just okay
Just one keeps you going. I really like I think the uh I think the the pop star one is the most like VHS Sanctuary. Yeah, like sort of fits in with their previous programming. Oh class It was kind of like it was kind of like The black mirror it was like a mix between like the black mirror VHS, you know creep and I really like I
I dig black mirror. I think black mirror is one of arguably the best kind of hard thriller sci-fi weird like TV show I'm not sure Yeah, if more I'm not sure if they're doing anymore, but like black mirror something I can always read You know, I've never watched them
I watch black mirror. I've watched the one in the first one. I have this good either Well, and there's some that are like more like on like very exploitative or you know, they're not your vibe That's the best part about black mirror every single episode's completely different than the other one So you just kind of work your way through it and there are the production qualities
That's one thing with the VHS beyond I thought the production quality wasn't correct. Oh there. I think they're They've moved up a tier now and and with as far as budget levels go and I wonder if there's like it's like shut her I wrote a much check. Yeah, I really it's like it's like shutter actually came there this movie beyond looks like it's The equivalent of every single sequel's budget. Yeah, they really do and it's good, but it's good
You don't feel like they wasted money on anything everything about it. It sounds like they're gonna keep doing them They already green with the I think that was like the biggest mistake looking back I'm not saying we need to like delete Michael Myers But really I don't like him that much Jason guy But like I really I missed that I miss having
We come up at all the time. They should have been here. Oh gee Yeah, once a year a unique Halloween movie Yeah, and and I think the idea of having the license of the name Halloween takes so much off Yeah, of the idea aspect of writing it. You're not having to come up You know, you're like we need a Halloween movie go. It could have been you make hour and 20 minute hour and 30 minute Once a year once every other year you get a Halloween whatever
And because some of these anthologies in VHS is and blackmail. You're like god. I wish it was a movie I wish this was an hour. Why is it over crap? Hubi Halloween could have been a Halloween movie. They're making your sequel. They're making your sequel to Hubi Hellenic. They are great. I'm so excited. It's gonna be a new tradition now. I just want to begin this last Halloween. Oh, I watch
Hubi Halloween. I I didn't know I watch I I But he's watched Hubi Halloween at least with no lily is 20 times Head on the background. Yeah, I mean easily like it ran on stop last year for Halloween It's like my a Christmas story for Halloween Cuz I am I don't know people wash. I know like terrifier came out. I don't like terrifying art the clowns stupid as shit I never see them so I should um it's just it's just not good
I guess this one's Christmas themed on Halloween and it's just it's just stupid. I just don't like it and then You know, I've seen trick or treat God is still fantastic, but like I'm think last year said that I'm burned out. Yeah, it's fun to find something like I think VHS beyond was really really fun But but but it's good. Now Thanksgiving Thanksgiving is fantastic. Yeah, we need more Thanksgiving That's a great old school. We'll slap film. Yeah, there's a slasher. There's a who done it
There's you know, there's a little mystery. There's a little this. There's a little that and I love the comedy Yeah, I love the whole you know Black Friday. I love all of that. Yeah, I I told my list I gotta watch it. Black Friday's in Thanksgiving though. Have you seen black Friday rub with with uh No, I think it's so good. Yeah, I'll see that. Oh, that was one thing I tried to watch and I'm kind of into it The Bruce Campbell show hysteria I wanted to check that out too
It's not Bruce Campbell's fault at all. It's just probably like episode four you're This shouldn't be this long. This is like one of those things where like we need 10 episodes. Yeah, like it really like I kind of Tuned out of it right now probably pick it back up later, but uh, you know Like for one two our fantastic episode one and two then like three four and five are all basically Oh really slow singular episode So and it's the and Bruce Campbell's in it. He's good of course, but like
There's not enough of them. Okay. There's not enough Bruce Campbell. It couldn't afford that much Bruce Campbell I guess they came up with me twenty-watt. I gotta see that. Yeah, no, I thought it just came out hysteria. Oh, you're talking about I'm not Friday. Yeah, no, I was talking about hysteria. I do either heretic with you Grant. I really want to see that too Coming up in here. Yeah All right. Well, we could ramble about horror movies all day. Yeah, so
good wrap up. People do download to listen to us ramble on horror That's true All right guys. Well, yeah, we'll wrap it up. I actually we did have talked. I don't know what we're gonna be covering next, but we'll Do something we may we're seeing if this schedule works. We may have an off week because our next episode would be on the I think you know, we do them every couple weeks would be around Thanksgiving. We might take that one off
But we'll keep you will let you know, you know, you'll you might see an episode you might not it. You'll be a surprise So All right guys, well, thanks for trying to check out if you haven't already named the demon on Amazon We'd appreciate if you leave a review And also check out well Yeah, I am to be check it out on Kickstarter if you want the blue ray physical copy. There's gonna be some awesome stuff VHS t-shirts The blue ray is getting an awesome magnetic
uh box that it goes in basically with some awesome artwork. So check that out Um, and yeah, we just so thank you guys also I never really asked but right interview the podcast if you can go on Apple podcasts Leave us a good review. We'd appreciate it. Yeah, that's some of the awesome. All right guys. Uh, thanks for joining us. We'll catch you next time later guys writer Don't you blame the movies movies don't create psychos movies make psychos more creative Oh, yes, there will be blood