Welcome to The Cult Classic Horror Show! Every week you can have the conversations you've always wanted to have about the films you love. Get rid of your distractions and prepare yourself. Welcome welcome everybody to The Cult Classic Horror Show, Danny Bohnen here Scotty Bohnen here. We are the blood brothers and Carnolo Chimera. Yes, sir. Still, uh, second epin a row with no rob. Robless. Robless. Robless. Robless.
Joe from Hannibal Bow. He has no internet. Uh, he did weather the storm. The hurricane's down in Florida. He's a lot of been. Yeah. He has been left from the internet. No, no internet. Pretty pretty good. Uh, excuse Rob being here, man. I did tell him he should join from his phone. Oh, yeah. You can do that. You can do that with the link that we send out. And, uh, I don't know. Maybe he'll pop his head and doubtful, but you never
know. You just never know. It could be patchy service. Rob is very, you never know. Yeah, you never know. I mean, like most of Florida right now, he's stranded without, you know, basic, uh, first world amenities, which isn't that different than Florida on a normal day. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. His entire backyard got torn apart. Trees fall down. This swimming pool cage blew off. Yeah. He's always, yeah. He's pretty hard. Him and his mom were
always like, I usually move down here. Like, we have no snow. We have no blah, blah, we have like talking about, you know, yeah, how they don't deal with anything like we do in car out. I'm like, really? Every since I've known you, it's just hurricane, no power, no power all the time. Back to hurricanes in like, like two weeks, man. And on a good day, his internet's always been by far the worst of any hours. Oh, sure. I think in the history
of my life, I've lived my whole life in Colorado. And then the history of my time living here, I think the snow has knocked the power out like two times ever. And for about 30 minutes, yeah. We haven't had too much power outages for sure. Um, bloody area, but nothing. Yeah, nothing serious. But here we are talking about 28 days later. I was going to say Rob's going
to come back 28 days later when he gets internet back. Here we are. He's going to wake up naked in hospital, uh, except the main difference is you won't even see a scrap of penis through his bush. No, it'll just be all bush. Nothing but just after 28 days of not shaving it, it would consume his entire body like, you know, it covers whole entire body. Cause yeah, Rob grows hair like a freaking mad man. Um, well, before we jump into this, I, there's a phenomenon
surrounding this movie that I didn't know about that we have all come to figure out. And then I, well, I was talking, well, Carmelo and I guess that on a podcast yesterday and they brought this up too. I think before you joined Carmelo, that this movie is unfindable anywhere. Basically, oh, I know. It took me 20 minutes. Remember it is, yeah, it is a thing in the horror world, I suppose that if you have a physical copy of 28 days later, or you
see one out there, you should snatch it up because they don't make them. It's never streaming anywhere. Uh, and you, you know, people will pay top dollar for them. Yeah, wild. It's wild. I mean, there's one on eBay right now for like 300 bucks. Really? Yeah. Oh, yeah. Well, there's one like the cheapest one was like 50 or 45 or something, but still. Yeah. What's crazy is that I never knew that at all. That's a name on though. And we were
deciding on what to cover this week last minute. We just hadn't, we've been traveling and all this just didn't have a chance to really get super prepared. And so I just said, well, let me open up my movie collection and see what I have that has a bunch of special features that we can DVD collection. Yeah, my digital video disc collection and see what all I have that we could cover that we haven't covered yet that I have like special features for.
So we have some information. Yeah, I have 28 days later sitting there and it was back from when you rented the movie at Blockbuster. And when you rented it, they actually gave you the movie in its like DVD case. Right. And if you didn't return it, they would just charge you for the movie. I don't know if you recall that. Every time there was a time when they would give it to you, obviously in a Blockbuster branded sleeve like case, you know,
that just had Blockbuster on it. But then they shifted from that and they just straight up gave you the DVD case with the movie. But I think they repackaged it like it's the DVD cover in one of their generic boxes, you know, right. And then they would just charge you if you didn't return it. And that's what happened with this movie to me so many years ago. I just kept it because I liked it when I rented it. Yeah. You charge me for it.
So it is the it is the wide screen DVD, which does look like absolute garbage on my TV. It's not high definition. It's not high def. It is not 4K. It looks like shit. Just buy. Yeah, keep keep keep keep saying, but I own a copy. And it has all these special features on it. So I that was awesome. I grabbed your copy, but we did find a link online that Danny said that worked. So I did find a link on Reddit to some random site that has the
movie on it with ads. And it's not legit. I don't think it's a legit movie site. I watched it. It worked. There was a couple of ads like the first 10 minutes and then it streamed all the way through perfectly fine. All right. It follows my mind that it's unavailable anywhere to stream or even to I mean, just you buy it. It's wild. I mean, it's well known movie. Yeah. It tells reviews. It's very well known for the director.
28 weeks later is available everywhere. They're about to come out with 28 years later and it's being all hyped up. So you would think I heard that like Disney owned 28 days later. And they had some kind of they had some kind of disagreement with whoever owned it before or the makers or whatever and they owned it and some disagreement happened and then Disney dropped it and that's the reason why you can't stream anywhere. It's because of that.
So it's all because of Disney, whatever the the agreement that didn't come to fruition. Well, I just want to say that I love this movie. It's always been one of my I get not all favorites, but I've always loved this movie. That's why I kept it back in the day. And I love Killian Murphy and it's the first thing I ever saw him in. It's just I like it. So I didn't mind revisiting it. Didn't mind watching it again with commentary. That's my first reaction.
I loved it too, man. I just got done watching it like a few minutes ago and I didn't remember any of it hardly like I remembered like the military getting involved in like the very end there and stuff. But I just forgot for God. Brendan Gleason was in it. I just forgot how it started. I don't know. So it all kind of came back to me. It is the first thing I saw Killian Murphy in too. And obviously after that, you know, he did a lot of other bigger things and stuff, but he was
awesome in it. Brendan Gleason was great. The premise was great. And it's it's just one of those movies you feel isolated in and knowns around and it's it's got a great feel. A great zombie movie for sure. And I know it still holds up to the zombie. Yes, movie. Zombie. Yes. Yeah. Quite zombies. Yeah. They're not zombies. There's more. Yeah. More just infected humans. What do you think about this movie? Carmelo?
This movie is fantastic. It's it's stayed with me and haunted me ever since I first saw it. Totally. And and then I just and 20 weeks later was that much more haunting and I think it was really the first time we saw fast zombies, right? And yeah. More maybe more famously done by Zack Snyder and Dawn of the Dead. And I only say that that was maybe more famous because it was a bigger studio release. And because it was a they were more
traditional zombies. And this was, you know, rabies or some version of rabies. Totally. Yeah. But that's what kind of makes it work too. And because because slow corpses, for fast corpses doesn't make a ton of sense. But like people who are like freaking out with rabies. That's different. It also felt really real to me. Like I think the idea that there could be some disease that drives people like crazy, foaming at the mouth is not that hard to it's not that far
fetched. It's just it's just not happen. And then of course, what happens with the soldiers and everything at the end is just like, yeah, that that's exactly what would happen. So yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No crazy. What's that? They had a crazy feel, the crazy feel like the newer one. Yeah. And Jerry and they're a little bit more faster. They kind of get infected too, right? In the crazy's. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So that's what I would relate it to. Anything close. And yeah,
Dawn of the Dead, you know, Zack Snyder did it there too. But yeah, let's just we should get into a little what's this movie about? Carbohel? Yeah, that's a great question. We let me spin you some yarn here. All right. So in 20 days later, a group of well meaning, but not so bright animal rights activists break into a lab to to liberate some chimps. They are explicitly warned that these chimps contain a rage virus that drives everyone fucking crazy.
And the chimps escape the virus escapes. And by the time our hero Jim wakes up from a coma 20 days later, it's the name of the thing. Yeah. That was all it took for Western civilization to just just crumble or at least London. And so Jim kind of lost the I mean, especially because you find out more of this equal to us. Yeah. Yeah. But not for long. We're taking the watch because I haven't seen it forever. I can't remember that well. Please, please, go ahead.
So anyways, Jim wakes up. He's kind of like walking around, wondering what the hell's going on. And meet some survivors. He meets Salina who's kind of a badass. He meets Frank and his daughter, Hannah. I think some other folks who don't don't last long enough for me to be worth describing to you. But anyway, they're like, look, one guy really. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. For Mark. Yeah. Anyway, they're like, hey, there's this military like outposts. Let's get there. That'll protect us.
So, you know, they try to fight their way through the city to get there. And and actually, really, really most of this movie ends up being less about the zombies and more about this military group who's like, you know, we're kind of worried about repopulating the earth and all that. And we want your women. Yeah. And killing a North Sea doesn't take too kindly to that. Nope. I'm not sure if I recall exactly why if it's if any explanation is given for his bad
ass or he. No, really, there isn't. And that's what he turns you about it. It's just something he becomes a bad ass. Right. It's like it's it's kind of cool because it's like the military is the real monsters, but then it's like he like taps into his own inner rage and it's right. You know, in any case, he fucks everybody up. His parents got killed. His girlfriend's being held hostage. He flips. Yeah, he loses it, man. And he there is no no mercy. And yeah. And then at the end,
you know, there's a little bit of hope it looks like society might might be okay. It might recover. Yeah. Yeah. Very. Over. Got some got the sheets all sewn together. Yeah. Hello. Did you find any numbers on? I did. Actually, I just looked it up. It's movie did very well. Released November 1st, 2002. So it is a class guy would say in 22 years ago. Yeah. You released in the United Kingdom. But it worldwide, then after that and the budget, a budget
for it was 8 million. And the final box office number was 84.7 million off that 8 million. So pretty good. I do remember when it came out. I remember the previews and everything. And I was sort of excited to watch it. I remember the two. Yeah. We were at a high school. But yeah. Yeah. Well, let's let's jump into 28 days later. Yeah. Let's do it. Directed by Danny Boyle, of course, who at the time was famous and up and coming because of
train spotting. Yeah. Working with you and McGregor. And such. Although he did do a movie called shallow grade before train spotting that you and McGregor was in and Eccleston, the guy who played Christopher Eccleston who played the general in this movie in 28 days later. Right. So they've worked together a lot and he's a great actor as well. But then he went on to do the beach. Well, he did before 28 days later too. So had worked with decapriol before he did sunshine. He
did slum dog millionaire, 127 hours. Steve Jobs. So yeah, you know, just a laundry list of some things. But he was born in 56 in Radcliffe, Lan Cashire, England, north of Manchester. But during the commentary, he would refer to Manchester sort of as his hometown. And that's where they were at. Yeah. Yeah. He now describes himself as a spiritual atheist, but was brought up a working class in a working class Catholic family. He was an altar boy for eight years and his mother had
the priesthood in mind for him. But at the age of 14, he was persuaded by a priest not to transfer to the library. Oh, wow. That's funny. Yeah. So he's quote of saying whether he was about this said priest that, you know, talked him out of it. He said whether he was saving me from the priesthood or the priesthood from me, I don't know. But quite soon after I started doing drama and there's a real connection, I think. All these directors like Scorsese, John Wu, M. Night Shyamalan, they were all
meant to be priests, which I didn't know. Wow. And there's something very theatrical about it. It's basically the same job, ponsing around telling people what to think. Jobs director, right? They got it in him. He got it in his blood. Well, he went to, he studied English and drama at the university college of North Wales, now Banger University, where he directed several productions for the student drama society. After graduating, he began his career at the joint stock theater
company before moving to the Royal Court theater in 82, where he directed some stuff. So a theater guy in London, then in 87 started working in television as a producer for BBC Northern Ireland and produced some TV films and things like that. And yeah, so all that sort of morphed into film. In 2011, though, he directed Frankenstein for the National Theater. That sort of went back to that. It put back in the theater action. Yeah. And he was announced to be directing a dance
adaptation of the Matrix titled Free Your Mind set to debut in October 2023. So last year, I wonder if it ended up debuting or fun to say. Yeah. It's like people dancing through lasers and going underneath. Yeah. Just a dance show of the Matrix. Acrobatic. But that's that's enough about him. We can move on to the film. So you know, this movie starts out with all of this footage. So to speak of the world falling apart
during the opening credits. Which well, I guess, yeah, this was before, this is what the chimps are watching. Yeah. So this is before the outbreak happens. Yeah. They didn't want to use real footage of people getting killed, obviously, but they they based this footage off of real footage from the conflict that was happening in Sierra Leone previously to this. So that's where they sort of got the inspiration. Then it goes on to we widen out and we see that there's a chimps watching
it. We see that they're all these cage chimps. And that sequence was shot in a stutz guard. And there's only two, I guess at this time, only two working, quote unquote, chimp teams in Hollywood. One was in LA and one was in stutz guard. We're stutz guard at. You know what? Look it up real quick. I can look it up. I don't even know how the heck you spell stutz guard to save my life. I couldn't spell stutz guard. Stutz guard. Stutz guard. City in Germany.
It's so great. For sure. We're in the old stutz guard. Stutz guard. Anyways. So yes, that's where they went to film this chimps sequence was wild. Stutz guard. Go over the chimps are at. Yeah. As Carmel mentioned, this is not does ambies per se, but it is a virus that they don't even say rabies in the film or even in the commentary. They just call it a rage virus and a rage infection virus. Yeah. Danny Boyle. And
I also the commentary I listened to is Danny Boyle and Alex Garland. And then I've watched some other videos and stuff which interviews them. But Alex Garland is the writer. So they wanted a psychological virus, not so much a biological virus. So that's it. What do they even mean? Yeah. He's like something where it's affecting the mind and not so much the body, I guess, is how he explained it. So it's really is just a rage that is being transferred and infected
from person to person is just this unquenchable rage. I guess it's putting their head. Yeah. Let's say I like it by the movie too. Once you get hit by the blood, it's like seconds. And you will be termed. Yeah. So you get a kill right away. But okay. Okay. I can go with that. But after that, of course, Killian wakes up, you know, hanging dong and everything. Yeah. Yep. They did say he was a little bit nervous about all that, but close said everything went fine.
So that's his real dong. That's his real dong. No way. He's wrong. I don't want to miss that. Yeah. Real dong. So you may notice when he's walking around, there's no bodies. There's no bodies. There's no body. And they said, Alex Garland says that that and same with Danny Boyle, who I think had the ultimate decision about it, was they understood that maybe that didn't make a whole lot of sense. If this whole town has been ravaged, like there'd be at least a couple bodies out on the
street. Yeah. But they were going for atmosphere, quote, atmosphere and surrealism over plot requirements. And they wanted to just have this empty surreal vibe and atmosphere going on while he's walking around, not knowing what's happening, you know, and not introduce these dead bodies yet. So I definitely believed it when I was watching it. I didn't like say like where are all the bodies? The only thing I questioned is like, how is he the only one left in there and how is he
alive still? Like waking up. But you know, but who didn't you know, you're supposed to know? I mean, I guess maybe he was at such a living, I personally, free, they weren't the infected were interested in him or something. Yeah. Yeah. He was he was passed out, whatever, still in us, whatever. But they did, obviously, relatively lower budget film, eight million dollars and they have
these massive shots of an empty London. And they were able to close streets down in London for about 90 seconds at a time in the early morning and film these sequences with multiple cameras. That's the way, you know, because it's a, I mean, London's a freaking bustling city. Like, that's hard to do, man. They would go out. They would have policemen block off the streets. They'd have about, yeah, like again, 90 seconds, multiple cameras, then then they would shoot it.
So they must have had, they didn't mention this, but they would have had to have an art department crew rush in and like spread trash everywhere and everything, you know, yeah, to get those shots. And in fact, they even talked about in one shot, there's an overturned bus right outside. I think the parliament building or something. And a lot of this they said you could never get away with post 9-11 now. And 9-11 actually happened while they were shooting. So that's another interesting
fact. I have it in the notes here. I don't mean to jump ahead, but actually they were filming the tower scene where they meet where you meet Brendan Gleason when 9-11 happened. Like when it actually happened. God. Wow. And another interesting thing is they did pretty much film this whole movie in sequence, like in sequential order. Yeah, only with only a couple pickup shots later on that they had to go back and get. So nice. But anyways, going back to there's a you see an overturned bus, like a
double-decker bus on the street. And they really fought to be able to do that. And the art department had to promise the government they would have it in and out of there in like 15 minutes. Geez. Like they did. Sure enough, they overturned this bus, turned it back over and you got it the fuck out of there. And he said that it reminded me of Carmelo actually because Danny Boyle was like we we promised the government basically who gave his permission that we would only take
this amount of time and we'd be out of there by like 8 a.m. 730 to 8 a.m. And there were some hesitance because they're used to these film people just blowing off and going off schedule. And he said, but sure enough, they were out of there by like 730 a.m. every morning they had to do these shots. You know, wow. I'm just saying Carmelo is known to be really on time as well. Yeah. They had to be up like 4 a.m. prepping and getting ready. Sure.
Sunrides comes up. Okay. Shoot right now. Well, those scenes are so important because it's set. The movie is this like post apocalyptic thing. You know, it's so chilling about it. Yeah. And you need them for the trailer too. Honestly, that's what I remember about the trailer. It was all these empty London shots. Yeah. I was saying that first shot of him walking out of the hospital of the of the Big Ben clock tower right there. And I was like, is that real?
How did they get all those people to clear out and sure enough it was. They did do it. They did do some things digitally though that worked and you would never even know which really just small things like a couple shots there were was maybe one car in the corner driving by and they were able to remove that digitally. Oh, wow. Okay. So more or less like removing things. Yeah. Just
removing some things is what they are mainly trying to background. Yeah. Yeah. They also had, you know, the use that community board sort of in the film to show us that people were basically using it to try and find lost loved ones and communicate with each other because obviously all lines of communication had gone down. Actually, Danny Boyle modeled that after something that actually happened in pecking China or Beijing or whatever they had a disaster there. And people
were using the community board to sort of write notes back and forth to each other. There's no communications but there's that thing is plastered with pictures and notes and he just talked about some art department lady that spent three months writing all those notes and creating them. So then we get to the church where we finally see all the bodies. All the bodies piled up. Yeah. Yeah. All the bodies piled up there and those volunteers that they didn't pay to be there
for the day. They laid it. Wow. Yeah. Everyone laying in their dead. So all we think of the contagious people that are infected bring the bodies and leave them in the church or I don't know that they gave. They did give an extra room. Yeah. Whatever you want to come up with the user-owned meditation to solve that. I would maybe assume that they were gathering as a shelter in the church and then all died. But I don't know maybe for some odd reason the infected were
dragging bodies to this one central location. Yeah. Yeah. I'm not sure. We could come up with the own conclusion about that one. Yeah. Yeah. But yeah, then he said, you know, he's quiet, Jim Bill quiet. And he's like, hello. Yeah. That's amazing. That's crazy. Well, we don't know. That's anything. Something interesting just off hand about the church that they mentioned. This is one of the, there's these churches in London called the Hawksmore churches.
So they were built by a guy named Christopher or Nicholas Hawksmore. Sorry. Was a back in the 1700s. He was an architect that designed and had built six different churches around London. It's rumored that there are satanic and pagan symbols embedded within the architecture of Hawksmore's many London churches. And that they are built over child sacrifices and their placement around the city draws together powerful forces into the shape of a pentagram.
What? But I did look further into this. And it does say, quote, these are apocryphal tale. These apocryphal tales are, of course, the stuff of fiction whipped up for Peter Acroge, dark and masterful narration in Hawksmore, a book that did much to help articulate our tech, architectural qualities and enhance the reputation of the real Hawksmore as an on and on blah, blah, blah. So I don't know how true they probably aren't true and I don't know how far the rumors go.
But yeah, very interesting. Yeah, I mean, you can you see the actual stowed work of it, of the actual pet, the, whatever the signs. The rumors went far enough for the people doing this commentary until you mention it. Oh, and that was one of Hawksmore churches. Oh, see. So well, rumor enough, maybe it'll kind of spice up the things on like the set of the movie, maybe, and the, the, the, the mystery and the mysterious things around it.
This priest that we meet that comes out of the door and is the first one we really see up close and moving awkwardly. He was actually a quote unquote movement expert that helped create the movements for all the, the dead, for all the quote unquote zombies. I guess I don't even dead, but for all the infected in the film. So he started them when they came up with the way they move and and taught the others how to do it. It is frightening the way they move for sure.
Yeah, to throw in their arms back. Yeah, it's so much like movements. And then their eyes, their, their beat bloodshot eyes and completely concealed over. Man, it's really brilliant the way. This is later on my notes, but it's worth mentioning now that the, the, they're so jerky and everything is so all at once and spread it with them that and it's not just how they're acting. Danny Boyle talks about how there's a setting in the camera
they were using that had to do with frame rate. And I don't think it was the exact frame rate setting, but it had to do with it and and he wasn't even able to completely explain it, but he said that they would use a certain setting whenever it was on the infected and it made it a little more unnatural and jerky and then they would. Yeah, and then they would put it back to normal. When it wasn't on them and the only other time they used the setting was also when Jim goes bad
ass at the end. Oh, now we know. Now we know why it looks so bad ass. And that's interesting because that's what we're like saying at the beginning is like he's almost got like a natural rage. Right? Not like the disease rage, but he's got the same like thing going on in them. It's true. Yeah, yeah, rage too. If my my wife was in there and being being almost raped. Well, not wife, but you know, have the girlfriend. His girlfriend of two days.
One way back. And he's cute. But but everyone else is gone. So he's the only one that cared him or he cares. Everyone in the world's gone and you met a hot chicken and she's willing, you're going to fight hard for that pussy. Yes. Yes. I think that word. So I said, you're older than your daughter or something. I mean, most guys would stab someone for a girl on like a normal day. So that's true. Yeah. On these situations, I can only imagine. I mean,
these guys are desperate. Man, I mean, they haven't had any action in, I mean, no for 28 days. And it's got for bit. Yeah. Well, then, um, it's probably a believable part of the they all just go to hell. It's been 28 days. I can't resist. Come on. Well, then, um, basically we have this. He meets Celine, um, and Mark, it was right, who doesn't last too long, but he meets him in the midst of this, um, gas station explosion.
And this is what cost the most money out of the whole shoot was blowing up this gas station. Wow. Yeah. And so that was a day everyone wanted to be there. It cost 250,000 pounds to, to do that sequence. She's, um, and I equates to, and Danny Boyle just talks about how they wanted to compete with, I mean, he used the words like American cinema because these are, this is the whole British operation making this film. And they wanted to be legit. And he talked
about it again at the end when it's raining. It's raining for the whole climax. And rain can be expensive to do. He was saying, and he was very specific that he wanted this very thick visceral rain coming down. And he, because he wanted it to be up there with these American movies that rain looks good in. Yeah. Just like, gosh, anchoredemption. Yeah. So they, this sick blows up, uh, Jim gets drugged down the, um, you know, into the little shop where they
take a rest that's underground subway train station or whatever. Um, we see the lottery tickets and stuff. Yeah. The first time we see Mark, he has this gas mask on and he tells a joke through the gas mask about a giraffe or something. I remember the guy that liked lion the drap and he's lion. Yeah. Yeah. Lion. Yeah. The original joke was going was, uh, Luke said the Darth Vader, I know what you got for Christmas. And he says, how? And he says, I felt your presence. I felt, I don't,
it's not that funny either. I don't know. The one that the drap and lion though, because I saw giraffe lion there. It's like, that's, that's the lion that's a giraffe. You know, yeah. Lion. Yeah. Yeah. It was bad. Um, yeah. It wasn't that funny. But, uh, so they're there. They decide that they will go search for Jim's parents to make him satisfied, you know, but they're dead now. Or not. So they were, there was a, I got to watch some deleted scenes too. There was a cut scene
here. Uh, first of all, they did get permission to walk on the raised model rail system or train system. As you saw in the film, they sort of walk along that. That was cool. Uh, but they did have a cut scene where they inspect a train car abandoned train car that was obviously used as a makeshift hospital. And that would have been sort of some cool backstory to like just what they had to go through in the last 28 days, you know, right. So, um, but they said on that particular day, it was pouring
rain. And it's not supposed to be raining at all in London at the time, because there's a scene later on. We're about to see that they had the buckets on the roof and he talks about how it hasn't rained. It's uncharacterously hasn't rained since this whole thing happened. Yeah. We'll get water. 500 buckets on that ceiling. I'll never know. I ever know about that in a second. I mean, so anyways, yeah. Um, so yeah, they eventually make it to his parents house.
And Danny Boyle talked about making the parents house very warm and inviting on purpose. When they first arrived there, there's a, it's a lot of yellow lighting that the insides lit with. And they just wanted to make it like a very cozy and welcoming looking home that he grew up in, you know, just to make it even sadder that it's gone. Yeah. Yeah. Um, but the, the dead parents, this surprised me. Their dead bodies in the beds are both full, prosthetic fake bodies laying
really. Yeah. And they look so real. They're really good. Wow. So yeah, it was really good. Really good. And they killed themselves off. They took the pills. Yeah. They did. They committed the old suicide. They left a note for Jim though. And this was added in later. This was not in the original shoot scheduler script. Just this little note. And they wanted, they added in later to show a little more emotion from him and a little more, I don't know, just a little more sob there.
And, and it is sort of, you know, it's this note that, hey, we left you sleeping. Now we're going to sleep to join you. Please don't wake up. And of course, he's like one of the only people. So yeah. Um, that's when, and then that's when Mark goes, Mark gets infected. They get it back. And he gets out. Yeah. That whole thing's happened. They, they get attacked by the neighbors who are now infected. Uh, they did say the stuntman upon jumping through the window the first time,
just totally tripped in a shit. So that's all fuck. To redo that. Oh, yeah. But, do that seems to probably be like, like, like he gets infected. And then like no questions asked, Selena just fucking chops him with the machete. I'm like, whoa, shit, man. Like, that's how we know how serious it is. It's so hard to read. If like, my wife got infected and I had to kill her right there. Right. You know, it just happens. And obviously they were more just acquaintances. So she probably,
yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm just going to chop you. Chop your arm off. Yeah. Yeah. So we lose, it's sorry. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So we lose, Mark. But then they, they see the little balcony, they head to the tower. Um, they get past the, the stacked up shopping carts and then we meet Brendan Gleason, basically, uh, who's covered in body armor and holding a riot shield. You know, that was so bad ass. Yeah. And Brendan Gleason actually said he really wanted the first scene you see him
and he wanted his character to be completely ruthless and cold. And he really is because, I mean, what else can he be when you have all that body armor on and you're beating out back the infected and then, you know, there's that famous trailer scene where he knocks him over the banister and the body just goes flailing down with freaking. Yeah. I love that. That's a good scene. And he wanted it to very be contrast his normal character. So basically,
as you know, from the film, he does that. He, he helps them to go into the apartment. And then he comes in and takes a mask off and he's just the jolly as tappy as person at that. I get you a cream to menthen. Yeah. We're going to be cream to menthen brings up a key drink cream to menths straight. Look, I guess that should have been the clue that he was sinister. Yeah. Exactly. Yeah. The other most expensive part of the film was that in that scene, Frosty, the snowman is playing
in the background and they had to pay a fortune to use that song. But is it that important? You're kidding me. Yeah. I'm wondering. I know the scene. I got the feeling that it was playing and it was sort of a retro like they for they didn't mean to and they had to pay for it. You know what I mean? I like the scene was shot like, well, we're not going to go. We're going to get that.
Like, let's go. We'll be there. Yeah. Yep. But so yeah. So then again, we talked about the buckets being on the roof to get water, but it hasn't rained uncaracteristically of London. Has not rained since this whole thing happened. And Danny Boyle got there that day to film and was like they had maybe something about a hundred buckets on the roof and he said, this is and on that big of a roof, he said, this does not this looks like three on this big of a roof.
Like we need he said, by this afternoon, I need 1000 buckets up here. So he said they got it done, but that's also the reason they stretched it a little. That's also the reason you see like a laundry basket. It's not going to hold water. Yeah. Yeah. I think if I had to find a thousand buckets and you gave me like three hours, I don't know where I would. I don't know what I would do. I mean, nowadays you just head to Home Depot because they're
they're like a couple dollars, right? But right. But still that's $2,000 worth of buckets. Yeah. And like, are they going to have that many buckets in stock at Home Depot? Like, am I going to head through them? And also if it's people, they'll all have to decide you probably want to. And they'd all be the same. There's no way that he would have all the same buckets. That's why it looked okay because they're all different. Yeah. Like he went through every apartment in that building and
he took whatever it was out in it and put on top the roof. All the buckets. They're there for a while. They finally decide, look, we're hearing this broadcast. We have to they say they have a cure. We have to go see if it's true. So they decide to leave. They take the car. He's what he's a cab driver. I think it's or they take a cab. So he's a cab driver. Yeah. So they make a line. I don't take checks or I like to cash. Yeah. That's right. I don't take
checks or credit or whatever. Yeah. So then they go, there's this big tunnel scene. They have to go under the river and this tunnel does indeed go under the river in in London, but it was out of use at the time. So they got the permission to use it. And we're in there for two days shooting the sequence. They talked about how the fumes were pretty bad from the cars that they kept running in there. And the art department had a huge task
of piling up all these wrecked cars inside. And that yes, it's not very believable that they would just be driving over all these cars. Do that little taxi cab would not make it nearly over all those cars driving over all the cars. Oh my god, man. Yeah. But they were cool. They're cool little shot. And you know, it was nice. It was cool. They called it a cliche. Of course, the tire pops. Of course, they got to change it real quick while there's
infected running at them. But it weren't that nice coming underneath. Yeah. Actually, they talked about the wide shots of the rats coming in are digital rats, which I didn't, I wouldn't have guessed. Yeah. And good. Funny enough, they got complaints after the movie released from a magazine called Rodent and Marcipio Quarterly. And the complaint was they're just yet another film portraying, you know, these awesome amazing creatures that are rats in such a negative manner.
Yeah. Let's put the hell. We're just running it. What do you mean? Oh my god. Please, go on. I'll be right back. Excuse me. Yeah. Rats are creepy. No worries. Oh, so yeah, it was crazy. So then they leave the tunnel. They move on to the shopping scene. So the, the budgets, which must be a popular store in London or the Europe, in Europe, because they got to use one. The, the, the untouched, the aisles were perfectly
like food, stock, did everything. This, they didn't use any lighting inside of budgets, but because it had perfect neon, not neon, but you know, whatever, what do you call this fluorescent fluorescent lighting? Yeah. But they didn't want to see it in the upward shots or any of the shots. So there are a couple times when you're looking at the ceiling past them, past their shoulders, and that there's no lights on the ceiling. They digitally removed the lights on the ceiling as
well. They took them out in post. So why would they do that? No, they just didn't want these blaring fluorescent lights in, in the picture, but it is what they use for the lighting. So okay. Well, I thought it was a little strange myself. Yeah. But the manager of this particular budgets was a huge film fan and was so excited they were there to film and let them, they let them film the sequence they did it in one night overnight. And they signed supposed
as for him and stuff. Nice. But this is actually one of two or three nods that Alex Garland and Danny Boyle did to Romero. So this shopping scene in Budgets is a nod and an homage to Don of the Dead. Is it okay? Yeah. Just because they have run of the store, you know, what they're and everything's so pristine and untouched. Yeah. I just I just I just loved the part where Killy Murphy grabs grabs the bottle and branding Gleason. No, put that back. You know what this is,
it's a rare. School them on the scotch, right? Which one of you? You're going to go whatever to 18 12 years single malt. Yeah. And then he grabs like six boxes of it. Yeah. Like, oh, good man. Drops the plastic on the way out. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I think I'm the guard. So. Hell yeah. So then they stop for they have to gas up and they stop for gas. And you know, there's the the age old gross scene of having to siphon gas and spin it out
your mouth. Oh god. Oh, but they they have this sequence now where of course Jim has to kill a boy infected with the bat and they were worried that that was taking it too far. But we're glad they ultimately left it in and you don't really see it happen. Yeah. You see him. You see him put him your foot his foot on the neck and then you then you hear the hit whatever. But you may recall in that scene that as he's about to hit the kid, you hear basically the kid. I mean, almost
in what a kid's voice would be say, I hate you. Oh, I didn't hear that. And but it's not him because the infected don't talk. And what Danny Boyle said is that actually throughout the film during loud jumbled infected moments, there are almost discernible to the ear. There are the obscenities and things yelled out in normal voices like it would be them talking. You know, oh, yeah. And he included that in sort of the jumble, but you can't really tell. But he said,
this was the only spot where it really came out more than they wanted it to. And it almost seems like a mistake. Well, I didn't write it really even notice it. Yeah. Yeah. Well, um, yes, it was crazy. Then once again, they're driving down an empty road. Apparently that highway they're on. And this is this is the wide shot when you see him in three lanes and the eventually tilts up and you see the burning city on fire in front of the Manchester. Yeah. Just before that when
they're alone on the highway, they they could only have so much time to block that off. And they did what was called a rolling block. They have cops like, you know, a mile behind them and a mile in front. Also driving and keeping this rolling open space where they're filming. Wow. That's really cool. That's cool. That's great. Yeah. Multiple cameras. Multiple cameras and they had to give it. They had to get you know, right away. So yeah. Yeah. Hope for sure. Yeah. That was cool.
It appears up and he finally see the city like, oh, shit. Yeah. And they wanted to make sure that looked not too cheesy. And so I think it came out pretty good. Yeah. Then they arrive at this road block, right? And this was on a closed test track, a test track where they would like, I don't know, car brands rented out to test their vehicles and crashed cars and stuff like that. So that's what this this road block was was filmed on. And it was also meant to be clear of bodies just to have
again, that lonely, desolate feeling to it. Like where the hell's the military at? Where are these guys that we're familiar? Why they're not really dead bodies around here and made to look abandoned. Alex said Alex Garland was quoted saying, you know, hell is when you're truly alone. Not hell isn't like surrounded by these dead bodies and all this blah blah and people that are infected. But it's when there's truly nothing and you're just by yourself. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
Yeah. You have no other balls to know and to comfort you and know and to keep you company. Yeah. Well, they call out, they get there. No one's there. The military's not there. The soldiers must have came like a little bit later because like why didn't they pop out right away? It is a bit of that anger you feel like at the end of the mist too, right? When like, yeah, Thomas Jane has no patience and kills his whole family and then the soldiers walk around like right then. Like,
what the fuck? Yeah. So what happened here? Then they didn't find him. He's complaining. He's complaining so much that he kicks things and he gets infected and then they pop out of nowhere. You're like, if he had just waited two more minutes, I know. God. He's got him. Yeah. This might be a good spot to. So they had a story boarded different movie from here on out. Then yeah. I heard about this all too. Yeah. So maybe this is a good place because this is where it
would would have taken a turn. Right. This is the desanguination storyline, right? Where like, what does that mean? Like so my understanding from here is that Frank gets infected. Yeah. Yeah. They endeavor to try to cure him. Yeah. Yeah. So exactly. So what happens? And it was cool on the feature. I watched they had a narrated story board where Danny Boyle and Al Scarland actually did like the lines as you saw the story boards in front of you.
Cool. And so yeah, the film that could have been was here. He gets the drop in his eye. There's no military. He gets the drop in his eye. They instead of killing him, Jim decides to sort of like subdue him and then they wrap him with wire and stuff in a bag like a baggy around his head like a trash bag and they tie him up and they take him with them into whatever is behind this blockade. And of course, Salinas not happy about it at all, but Hannah is very grateful.
Yeah. And instead of a old house, they find a hospital, somewhat of this old hospital that was behind this blockade. They get there and it's abandoned as well. No one's there except there is a safe room there and there is someone inside the safe room and he has some food in there and he's locked himself in. They try to, well, they talk to him. He says, I'm not coming out. You're not coming in. The soldiers tried the same thing. They're all dead now. You'll be dead within two days.
Just leave me alone. Yeah. Finally, there's a lot of sequences, some scenes, like some relationship building between the man behind the door, Killian Murphy or Jim, because it never happened. Would have been some scenes where he's leaning against the door refusing to keep talking. The guy was refusing to communicate. So Jim just sits there and tells him his whole life story. It was going to be this whole sequence where kept cutting and he would
be talking about some other personal thing and kept cutting. Keep trying to get in. Yeah. Until finally, this guy started communicating and they had made it that they had infected tied up. And this guy inside said the only way to cure him is to completely do a complete blood transfusion because the disease lives in the blood and that's the catch. Someone has to give their all their blood. They open the door. It's found out that Jim has the same blood type.
He ultimately, there's some couples saying, there's an attack from the dead to keep things moving along. And then of course, he decides he wants to do it. Then of course, the dead are the infected are attacking again while they're doing this blood transfusions and it's very chaotic. And it ends with Jim becoming infected while tied up still after the transfusion and Hannah, Selena and Frank, walking out. Really? But then they scrapped the whole thing because
really, wow. Yeah. They scrapped the whole thing because really if he got completely infected by one drop going into his eye, just no way a blood transfusion. You're going to scrape every last vein for capillary of blood. Yeah. Impossible to do. Yeah. Yeah. So it was too far fetched. They thought. Yeah. It just wasn't going to work out. So they didn't go that direction. That was the original. That could have been. I don't know if it was original or not,
but it was definitely something else they had storyboard. Okay. Well, they could have done. Oh, crazy. I like the way it ended instead. Yeah. I'm sad that that Frank died. We're actually going to talk. I'll wait till we get to the ending, but there are, there is an alternate ending as well besides this. So this was like an alternate cold last half. It's like a different movie. Yeah. Yeah. It's like the whole third act.
Yeah. So, um, all right. Let me tell you how so Frank. Yeah. This is where the army comes into play. Um, and we meet the military. So there's a little bit of a flub when they're going up to the military base and they open the gates for them to barbed wire gates. Uh, the guy, a mailer who is infected is actually one of the guys that opens the gates. Oh, really? Yeah. Oh, shit. Then he's immediately. You're introduced to him as an infected. Yeah. So I didn't even notice it, but shit.
Yeah. And I didn't either. They pointed it out saying that by the time they filmed him as infected, he had got promoted to the infected and they needed him for that. And yeah. So they didn't realize this sort of. Yeah. I didn't notice. So they talked a lot about how Danny Boyle did. Well, sort of now, Scarlin. This is probably Carmelo is a writer, director, probably can relate to this story wise more, but I didn't see it a lot. They talked about how Killian Murphy's character Jim
had this need for a father figure throughout the film. And then by the end took Madder's New his own hands. And that was the theme they were going with. So like his father died in the beginning. So he didn't have one anymore. Then Brendan Gleason becomes this father figure. He even wakes up in that nightmare and says, thanks dad. When. Yeah. Everyone there. Thanks dad. And then they get to this encampment and the general Eccleson plays
sort of now becomes a bit of a father figure to him. You know, yeah, he even has them on the ground and is like, I'm giving you a choice to be with us. And yeah. And so they were really brought that up a lot. And then of course, now at the end, he doesn't need the father figure anymore. Right. It takes matters news on hands. Yeah. Like through this. I'm dropping this father thing.
David. So it's like a it's like a principle of screenwriting that you know, it's part of the heroes journey to that there's something psychological about, you know, overcoming your parents. Right. It's there's something existential about it because it's like the one thing in your life, you can't control is who your parents were. Yeah. And besides that, more or less things are generally, you know, you can choose your destiny, but you can't choose where he came from. So that's
kind of part of the heroes journey is kicking the father figure to come into your own. And the other the other side of it is often there's there's often a mentor and then like a like a dark mentor.
And and that's always meant to represent, you know, the two paths that a character can take. So this where you end up with like, you know, Obi-Wan Kenobi is the classic like old man, you know, character, and then you have Darth Vader, who like, which I think this is like why Darth Vader ended up being Luke's father because it created that that parody. And so you have that you have that here because you have
his his parents are gone. He's then Frank is is sort of beloved, you know, at least. But then the general is like this evil piece of shit, right? So yeah, kind of like yeah, right. So like overcoming that and overcoming the need for the father figure that's that is a recurring theme in a lot of movies. Yeah, yeah, I can do that. Yeah, for sure. Well, so that's yeah, so Ecclesin would go and just takes hit meta. Eccles is a great actor too. Yeah, he is. He's he's
really good. Really good. So they so he's he's that in this act of in this final act of the film. Well, yet last half of the film. So yeah, they're they're there now in this this house that was an actual house built for a lord back in the day that the guy actually never really moved into because he died and then it was taken over by his brother and he was a boring story. But right now, I'm not sure. Yeah, you feel like they're safe. They finally made it. They're
still going to make it everything's going to be good. Yeah, so then I already mentioned that there's a couple nods to Romero in here. Next one is Maler. Maler is sort of a nod to Bubba from Day of the Dead as sort of the pet zombie that's in Day of the Dead that they have on a chain there. Yeah, so that's over with the head. Yeah, yeah, exactly. So yeah, there's not a whole a whole lot going on here. They they did say that the whole idea that maybe they're being
quarantined and this isn't happening all around the world was not originally in the script. It was not anything that they had in their minds as they started filming this movie. And in fact, when they got to this point in the film, they were like, they added it. They added it in the speech from the other prisoner of the guy who sort of tried to save the girls, right?
Yeah, and cut the raider that the other soldier that tried to yeah, so he they added that in and and of course at that point, it's like is this guy's just sort of crazy and raising on like that there's not might not be true. Of course, then they take him out to execute him and he gets away, jumps the wall and he sees the the plane in the air. Yeah, and that's that sort of is proving that I think we are just being quarantined. Jim's, Jim sees the airplane going. Yeah, that's right.
Yeah, that's the tall tail side right there. And yeah, it's funny enough, side note, that shot was just Danny Boyle with a camera and his backyard had been shooting planes whenever they flew by for a couple days and they just use one of those shots. Really? Yeah, I got a POV of Jim, look it up at it. Yeah, exactly. Yeah, that worked. But yeah, they another idea that they had for the infected at one point was that instead of just rage, they were they were also these like
like rage full sex machines. They just they'd run around naked and and part of and this was in one of the deaths slightly. There's a different cut of the one of the soldiers dies in the there's like a basement kitchen looking storage area. And that's where one of the guys high Jones hides in the cupboards. Yep. And then they come in and one guy dies on the table there. And it's a very quick death. There was another shot of it where it basically looks like he's getting sotomized by
the infected. And he said they had almost thought of them as that way like they will sotomize and sexually abuse their victims as they are killing them. Oh, jeez. That's probably a good thing they dropped that. I mean, it's fun. It's like creepy and scary, but it's almost like two limiting to the audience. You know, I mean, you know, that that much rape in a movie. That's really well, they even talk to me yet enough as it is. That's they talk about. They're taking it as far as
them running around naked with like erections the whole time. Jesus. Yeah, I think we got the erections. The infected like in a sex rage with erections like running around sotomizing people and saying, Oh my god, there was a few infected naked people running around too. But yeah, yeah, that would have been a lot. Oh my god. And there was some cool. This is where most of the deleted scenes lie. And there are some cool ones. They they had to cut a lot of this for compression sake.
And one of the things they changed was the way that Jones dies in the film is that he goes to run in the house and runs out of the house and kill your merpies right there with that
bayonet and stabs them. Yeah, yeah, he runs right into it. Yeah, he was also the other thing that they shot was a bunch of the dead him running toward the door and then it blasting open with a bunch of the infected coming in like now 12 places being overtaken and him dying that way and then killing Murphy sort of coming in behind them but sneaking around the corner like unseen, you know, just got a cool. Yeah, and then they did have some deleted scenes of once the guy with like the
earmuff hat was infected. And also, Mailer running around I believe they were they had a sequence where they were chasing Jim for a while and he hid under the floorboards and then crawled out from one of the floorboards and that would be cool too. Nice, nice. And then also a sequence where the girls were running and opened the door and there was like just an army of them like down below and started climbing up. And so couple sequences in this end where they deleted them.
They they like kept like the soldiers as the infected was not being a bring up a lot more people and all that they they were supposed to the lawn was supposed to get rushed by more of them and they would they were all inside the house. Well, it's interesting. They do end up doing a lot of that stuff in 28 weeks later. Yeah, I need to watch. I need to watch that too. It's been a while. There I have seen it, but I have such the worst memory and it was probably like right when it came
out that I think I've seen it. I can't remember if I have. Yeah, so this was where I'll talk about the endings. First of all, when they shot this film, it actually ended right before they did the whole car crashing through the gates. It ended when they all hopped into the car and just took off. That was it was done. And that's what they filmed because they that's all the budget they had. They ran out of money. Then they sold it to Fox or Fox agreed to release it. And Fox gave them
more money to then film the ending that you see now. So film them driving up to the gate. And of course, you don't really see them break through it. Like sort of cuts right there. They cut there's like little like pause. Yeah. And then paid for them to do the whole ending where the plane flies over and they have these unfathomable amount of sheets they've sewn together. They admitted that like that's that's the equivalent of like 4,000 pair of sheets.
They must have gone from house to house collecting sheets for sure. They got them at the sheet store that's next door to the bucket store. Yeah, yes, the bucket store. Yep, the sheet store and the bucket store is that did cost money. They said that that plane to have it fly over. So it came from an airport in a certain part of the country that they said when they drove from that part to come about four hours, but it took that plane about five minutes. So jeez. And every time it had to
leave the airport to fly over, it cost 5,000 pounds for the fuel. jeez. Yeah, this I wonder if like Fox just didn't like the ending the way it was. And obviously they want more. I think it was a little bit somber and they wanted some hope like Carmel said at the end. Yeah, some hope was that Alex Garland that that finished writing it that must have been. Yeah, must have agreed on that. But there was a completely alternate ending that they did shoot. And I saw it. Basically Jim
gets shot. They get him in the car. All that happens. They break out. But they take him right to an abandoned hospital. And it is daytime though by that. So they must have driven during the night and arrived at this abandoned hospital. They put him on a table and they start working on them. Selena is trying to you know, Hannah's working the bag trying to get him to breathe. Selena is trying to give him a shot. And ultimately he dies. They lose him. What? Yeah. And
that him dying. You sort of see this change in Hannah where she just not fucking around anymore. She like picks up a nearby gun like checks that is loaded. Selena like somber. He picks up this automatic rifle. And they walk together like they sort of like nonverbal you say they're good buys. They walk together out the door. And the final shot is sort of the silhouette to them walking down the hallway with the guns. Take on the world you know. And then it would end there. And
yeah, and it was cool. And that was Alex Garland's favorite shot of the whole film that they had at the time. Yeah. But they just said it was to the the Fox and test audiences they wanted. And some happier. They wanted more. Yeah. So they ultimately changed it. I like the ending the way it is. I mean, it's kind of it opens up for their one and it's here. Did grow a lot in 28 days, though. Yeah. 28 days later. Yeah, it did grow a lot. Yeah. It's shaved almost. Yeah.
Yeah. But anyways, that's oh, and they did have a slightly different version. So I shouldn't say that was the very end. They walked down the hall. You see the silhouettes. Then I don't know that it was meant to be tacked on or not, but they did shoot a version of the ending we see now. But without Jim, I think in case they use that Jim the ending where he dies. Oh, good. They have a quick ending where she's at the sewing machine still. She's just a girl. She's like she actually talks to
a chicken that's on the table. And then Hannah runs in and just the two girls pull the sheets out and it's just the two girls. I see. Yeah. But they did a little flash. They do that little like fast scene where they go in the hospital. She gives a shot and but what are in them Jim saved. You know, so they did keep yeah, some of that's from what they shot. Like just that quick thing how he saved and how do you save it? But then he wakes up in the bed. Yeah. Then they wake up in the bed.
And it's yet again 28 days later. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's all I got. That's all right. That was great. Man. Great movie. I love this movie. It's it is very good. Now that we just talk through it, I like it even more again. Yeah. It's it's definitely very well done movie and holds up for sure. What sucks is they had a feature titled like the making of 28 days later and I went to watch it.
And it's one I've seen this before done with films where they are cheap and they just it was all about the possibility and almost like propaganda of how we actually could be overtaken by a virus. And it's so real, you know, what? It's cool and all but I just want to know about how they made this movie. Not about how the premise of it could actually happen. Yeah. Yeah. For sure. So I got to you got to put that little like caution in there. Little little warning for you.
But yeah, to wrap to wrap things up, we have some announcements to make for sure. We will be doing a live commentary next week for name the demon. Yes. You guys should if you haven't already, if we'd really, really appreciate it, if you would go to Amazon and stream the movie. It's for rent right now. We understand. I know. It's like four bucks. But if you do that for us,
we would just be forever grateful. It's going to help so much in the we were basically told that if we got a certain amount of reviews, so it's not it's important to rent it and watch it and then go on and review it. And you have to do that from Amazon website or the Amazon shopping app, not the prime video app. You have to go as if it's a product. Yeah. And if you leave a review there and we get enough of those, it'll actually shift to free on prime and then it will be featured more
in their recommendations. And so that will help us immensely. But anyways, so we next week or on Wednesday, the 28th are going to do a live commentary. So we will post the link. You guys will be able to join us. It will be at 9 p.m. Eastern next Wednesday, the 28th. You can join us and you can comment. We'll field your comments. You can join via YouTube or Facebook. We'll be streaming on both. And we're just going to, you know, we'll do the whole thing where hey, we're hitting play in 321.
And you can watch it along with us as we talk about how we filmed it and what happened here and there. And you can be asking questions. And it should be a good time. So we're doing that to help promote the film. But also to we're going to be launching the Kickstarter along with that as well. And we're have we're the reason we're having a Kickstarter is to produce and then promote the
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