Welcome to The Cult Classic Horror Show. Every week you can have the conversations you've always wanted to have about the films you love. Get rid of your distractions and prepare yourself. Welcome, welcome everybody to The Cult Classic Horror Show. Danny Bohnen here with you, Scotty Bohnen. I can be Rob Light tonight. You're info, you know, that we've gone over. I think I think something was like, can you, can you like beat somebody off to death? That's what it was. Yeah. Yes, yes.
Yes, technically, yes. You can, you can send them into cardiac arrest. That's right. That's true. I don't remember that was, but that, that was a wonderful. Yeah. It's always a fun time. So, well, I just want to start us off by saying, you know, we're talking about name the demon. This just, just so you know, right off the bat in case you don't want to listen anymore. This movie is coming out Friday. It is this Friday, October 4th, 2024. If you'll see to this later.
Otherwise, no man known as demon day. Demon day. This Friday. It should be on most major VOD streaming platforms. So anywhere you have to pay to rent a movie, although I believe it will be included with Amazon Prime. That is, it remains to be seen. Our distributor was a little unclear on that. But Friday, I mean, it's, you know, this is coming out.
Friday, listen to on Thursday. So tomorrow, please settle down, grab some popcorn, grab a whiskey and grab the Bible, grab the Bible less than 24 hours. Once you're listening to this, watch, name the demon to be. I know it's for sure on to be because of you. So skip it. You can go there now and you can see that it's already there and it's not out yet. So I know it's going to be there. You could technically pre-order it on to be. Yes. I think iTunes is the other place.
We're not sure about YouTube because it's, we were only available for now in North America. But we've, it'll be in Latin America soon and the other territories are being negotiated. So I don't think it goes on YouTube until some of that's cleared up. A Spanish man will be dubbing my voice and Scott is having breathing. He's probably breathing Spanish. Breeze in Spanish will be in the subtitles. I do more than just having it. I do more than just heavy breathing. No, I know.
I'm just giving you shake that. I know your self-conscious about it. I'm very heavy in the movie because of the prolonged sex scene that's got it. Yes. Yes. Well, the dog barking in Spanish. Yeah. Oh, yeah. We don't want to give too much way. The breathing was from the director given hand job to hype him up before they called action. I can't get my actors revved up for a scene. You know, you're very great. It was the gun. I used my hands.
So if you guys haven't been listening to this podcast, let me update you. We have made a found footage film called Name the Demon. Scotty and I are producers. We are in the film. Carmelo wrote and I guess co-wrote and co-directed along with his brother Nick Kymere, who's not joining us tonight.
Jason, who is joining us tonight, helped with just a ton of things during the whole seven day shoot and has done just the vast majority, if not all of the promotion so far, there'll be some more coming in. And it's so we're the team here to talk about how this movie was filmed. What it's about? Why you should watch it? Why you should be excited for it? And of course, we appreciate your support in checking it out as well. Now we have done, I'm sorry, I'm rambling on here.
We have done a film together before called Cineater in case you haven't been listening to this podcast. Go check that one out. It's always available on Amazon and other platforms. And then Scotty and I, with Rob before we were graced with Carmelo's awesome presence, did a film called She Walks the Woods, which is another found footage film that you can check out. And again, these are films that like produced by basically this podcast, you know, so this group of guys here.
So Carmelo, give us the synopsis of this baby. All right. Name the demon baby. It's my usual job. So yeah, and for everyone listening at home, we're going to keep this episode spoiler-free so that you can enjoy the movie on Friday. But we will do a spoiler version of this later. We'll talk about that toward the end of the show where we can get into more specific stories that would otherwise have ruined the movie. So I'll give you my spoiler-free synopsis today.
So name the demon a desperate man calls upon a team of exorcists to help his wife Anna, who is either suffering from a tremendous mental illness or might be possessed by a demon. And over the course of this 90-minute single shot found footage experience, the exorcists will have to face their own demons if they have any hope of saving Anna's soul. Oh, yeah, I love that. Not bad, right? What a huge man. I mean, I'm going to ditch my seat right now. Please tell me more. What the hell?
You can't do this to me. Well, first, let me tell you about some of the characters. For starters, there is Father Gabriel Lucas. He's sexy. He's magnanimous. Oh, well. He's bald and iron jaw and he's not manning presence in the film. You know, and he's really good. Well, thank you. He inspires a lot of, he reminds one of Damian Karris from the exorcist. Oh, of course. He's truly a beacon of light. Although he's pretty strong in his faith. He's strong in his faith.
You know, Damian Karris is a little, he's strong. Damian finds his faith. Father Lucas is resolute. I still feel the honor of the game that complimented. That's still a great compliment. Yeah. I'll take that. Yeah. Yeah. But he plays this character by the way. Very stern. I play Father Lucas that, well, I don't want to give that away. I'm just very strong in my faith. Well, I kind of like this format of bouncing back with questions.
Scotty, I want you to tell us when you took on the role, what did you think of Father Lucas and again, spoiler free, but what was your approach to this character? Oh, yeah, man. I mean, it was like you wrote the script and you kind of had me in mind for the, for the father Lucas priest who's kind of the, he's kind of the assistant to father Matthews, father Matthews, which is played by my stepdad Scott Moore. He's like the lead priest on this.
But as I was reading through the script, man, I see, you know, I see there's a chunky shit near and he has a lot of, you know, he holds the camera a lot. He reads the, all of the Bible verses that happens within the possession, which is very important to the plot story. So I was very excited, man, when I was reading the script and I'm like, oh, I've never played a priest before.
So just getting into that and, you know, channeling my inner like father carous from the actresses, which is one of my all time favorite movies, Danny and I grew up watching that at a very way too young age and were scarred for life. But anyways, that's why we love, you know, possession stuff. But, um, but yeah, it was tough. At first it was tough because like I'm, I'm a Christian guy. I, I, you know, I, I believe in God and all that. No one listens to our hard podcast anymore now.
But yeah, I love whole movies and I love, you know, scary stuff and, because I love possession, it's more bloodier than better. So getting into it was good. It was actually funny. My, my dog had just passed away right before I came to Chicago to film this in, in the Chicago winter and it really made me hone in and really get into the character and kind of like be emotionally attached to it.
Um, took some time by myself in the corner of your house and, uh, which we filmed in Carmel's house and, uh, you gave me some great notes and you told me to take my time and everything. But I really honed in and got, got down with Father Lucas and really became him as one, especially towards like the last half of the movie, which is where all the goods is. And, um, uh, really embraced it. I feel like it's some of the best work that I feel proud of myself about.
Um, and, uh, yeah, I mean, it was fun playing a, a priest with faith and then, uh, with a lot of good faith and then, uh, maybe getting knocked around a little bit by a possess girl. Um, so that's, yeah, it was, it was a lot of fun. I want to make you guys excited to watch this and that is part of what I love about this film. It has that real ash at the end of evil dead vibe. It's, these people get put through the ringer.
I tell you what they, it is a wild ride and it's only amplified by the fact that it is, I can't stress this enough. Basically a single shot film. Now there, now there are a couple sequences in the beginning that take up about 10 minutes of the movie. If that maybe five minutes that are, that are cut together. But then once this thing starts, the camera is not turned off. Now obviously we have, we have hidden cuts because we did shoot over seven days. We didn't do the whole film in one take.
But you as the viewer will not be able to tell that this camera was ever shut off. It's just a, a single continuous take and that only adds to the mayhem. I'm going to throw it over to Jason because, you know, well, first of all, Carmella and I have done a couple of interviews in Carmella a few more. And the thing that keeps coming up is the brilliance about the battery on the screen. Yeah. And Carmella keeps saying it was Jason's idea. So I, is that, that's the truth?
Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So Carmella and I had, we had met with a screen playing hand and we just kind of had discussed like, we just kind of went over the fundamentals of like filmmaking.
And as we were going through it, I just kind of reminded them like, we need to add like, there's so much happening, but we need to add just like one more piece of urgency so that for the, for the speed and wish this movie occurs at, we want like, we want the viewer to feel like they're in the driver's seat and like, they have no control of the car, you know? Yeah. And I just came up with the idea like, this is, you know, this is a found footage film.
It's, it's, it's, it's portrayed to look like it's recorded with the camcorder. So why not like include a camcorder element of the battery? And why don't we have the batteries percentage slowly wind its way down as the, you know, as the film goes on? And you know, you don't notice, you don't notice the battery right away. But then suddenly it's like, you look and you go, oh, 50%. Oh, oh, 20%. Oh, 10%. Yeah. And you're just like, you're getting anxious like, whoa, what's going to happen?
Like, you know, like, are they going to chase the battery? Damn it. Yeah. It's like, because really every movie has that, every great movie or suspension movie has that count. Oh, completely. It's just in this movie because there's a lot of different ways. Yeah. Oh, there's the big game is coming up or the big dance is coming up or the, whatever, the, the hell the thing is that's driving that tension. A deadline. There's always a deadline of some. Some kind of ticking time bomb.
And here it's that battery because it, and it works so well because it makes this movie special, right? If we're trying to say, look, you got to go see this. And of the things I've done, this is the thing I'm most proud of. And, and that's because you too. It makes found footage. So, and it makes me so happy to hear whenever an else who's involved says that because we know we did some special. Oh, yeah. What makes found footage special is it kicks down the wall between reality and fiction.
And for me, the fact that this movie is in real time and is a single, continuous shot makes it more real. No one edited together this found footage. The camera starts and this movie doesn't end until the camera's dead. Yeah. So the battery symbolizes exactly that, this continuity. And so when you, when you think about that, it's so crazy about real time, these characters start off like any other characters in a movie. They're ready for a fight.
And by the end of it, it's, the whole world is in tatters and, and so much can change in 90 minutes. No, no, no. Fucking does. Yeah. It's really the, the movie starts with all this movie. And by the end, you're like, what the fuck just happened to me? Yeah. Yeah. Talk about. Sorry. Oh, go ahead, please. I actually love how you talk about how it's like so real feels like real life too. Because like you knocked down the barrier of like you're not acting in front of camera.
It feels like it's actually like really happening like the like, like, the camera. I'm, I'm walking around doing this. I almost feel like I myself trapped in this house as a priest that I, in my priest now. And it was just, it seems so much more real and you're entranced into this, not even as a character, but almost myself, just like I'm actually a priest, you know, I thought it was.
I thought it was funny because, you know, Jason here is dealing with a lot of our, uh, well dealing with all the social media and commenting on things. And uh, by the way, if you need more like, you know, legitimacy to watch this film, we're at almost a million views on the trailer across all social media. And a bunch of horror influencers have picked it up and been promoting it. And I was just one of them more recently had about half a million views on their reaction video to it.
And I was looking at the comments and Jason was in there answering them. And there was, there was a lot of work. There was one or two. Yeah, man. Thank you. Is this, did it really happen? Is it real? And Jason, Jason, Jason will comment. He's like, I, you have to find out. I said from the start, I said that what I love, what I love about found footage is sometimes I watch a great one. And I still there's for just a second, you're like, wait, it is a movie, right? Yeah, exactly.
And I thought that's to me that's magic. It folks with you. It does. That's why I love that footage. I love it. It's fucking fun. And so I thought if I could give you that feeling for just one second, the whole thing would be worth it. Yeah, completely. Then it was funny because Jason Potter, our cinematographer, he was on that sledgehammer interviews. And he was saying the same thing.
He's like, it's a lot harder than playing a character like a narrative movie because you, he's wearing the camera. I can't listen to that. You know, he's talking off camera as a character, but he's trying to like be himself friend the camera, but he's playing Deacon John. It's just so much harder, but it feels like it's real life. He's actually putting in the work and playing a character. And he's like, it was knocking down that other wall like, man, this is like real life happening.
And he was generally scared in your house. You know, it's like, I was too. I'm like, God damn it. It's dark in here now. I'm running around a heirship. Like, fuck, it feels real as you're an actor too. I think the viewers are going to feel the same way. I think. Jason, you can now, we've obviously caught up a lot and talked a bunch throughout the planning of this promotion. But I haven't really, are you even, do you even like horror movies? Like, are you into horror?
Are you just sort of pulled in on this? I don't really want to be a part of it, you know? No, I mostly got pulled into this. I'm like a casual horror fan like Friday the 13th and Nightmare on Oms Street and Halloween and it wasn't like until like Carmella asked me to be part of this project where I started like doing a deep dive into like, like I got a shoulder subscription.
I started like watching all these random movies and I started like watching like all these random horror movies and I started like nitpicking them and picking out details and saying, okay, we could include this, we could include that.
And I think that works out pretty well because it's like, I have completely different like parro-optics when it comes to watching and understanding horror films, almost like a science, you know, I pull out like mathematical details and then just plug them into what we're doing, you know, it's a further strength than like the message we want to send, you know? Yeah, yeah, no. You play a lot more of a pre-shoot for it when you're pulling night shoots with us in Chicago during the winter time.
And it goes into it. You know, Scotty, you said something that I want to talk about too that I love about phone footage and that's, you know, because the thing I look at with this podcast is that it brings people together. We promised everyone the conversations you've always wanted to have about the films you love with. So even as we're sitting here trying to tell you, hey, look, name the demon's gonna fucking rock, you gotta go see it.
I still want you to feel like you've left this episode with, hey, this was fun. I love on footage. And so this is something I want to share because Scotty said, look, you know, you feel the audience is going to feel it too. And I think Scotty's genius for saying that because what you get in a phone footage movie that you don't get in most movies, it's only rarely, is the movie's first person. The cameraman as a person, the cameraman as a character in the movie.
So you as the audience are transported into the film in a way you just aren't in any other kind of movie. You're when the film, when you're looking around the corner, when you're trying to creep through the darkness, it's you because you're watching what a character's watching. No other format does that unless it's a deliberate, you know, shot. And when it's done, it's unusual in phone footage. It's what makes it work.
Yeah. And what makes it, what makes us special about like this film is like when you, when you watch a movie, you'll see the characters engage with each other. And when they often encounter a dilemma, you're saying, oh, they should do this. Oh, they should do that. But in name the demon with every dilemma as a viewer, you catch yourself saying, we need to do this. We need to do that.
And that's what, that's what separates this movie from, from a whole lot of other movies is the viewer becomes part of what's going on, you know, you become so invested in what's happening on screen that you are, you're, you're an unwritten character that's, that's also there along with what's happening. Talk a little bit, Carmelo. Now, we'll probably, if you're listening to this episode, then you listen to our commentary.
And if we start to go into some behind the scenes stuff here, you'll probably hear some repeats. And that's fine. But before we get into maybe some of that, Carmelo, without as, as spoiler and free as you can be, get into the lore a little bit of this and then how you research that and, and then talk about like what happens up in that room now. Because I think people are going to be interested about that kind of shit. Because this isn't all fictional. I mean, this is some, the real shit.
Yeah. And, and that's intentional, right? Because once again, if the goal, you know, you have a different goal with the different, with different films, right? And with Sinita, I did something that I wanted to do that was very cerebral. But the criticism that came to me was, well, it's, it's not as, very scary. And, and I thought, well, you know, tension and suspense is scary to me. And it's fine. You want horror. I'll give you horror.
And so the goal with this movie was always, how do I do it as scary as possible and as real as possible? The found footage obviously helps. Then we talked about real time. We talked about continuous shot. The lore was the next piece because there is real lore in this movie. In fact, when we did the Chicago premiere, the last question I got was, our exorcisms real. I remember that. Yeah. And I'm like, the fact that anyone would ask me that question, right?
It's like, like, someone trying to ask me, is God real? Is the devil real? I'm like, I am a philosopher by somewhat education. I'm not like qualified to tell you God is real. And that's what I brought into the film. So, so I had heard, you know, that, that the number of exorcisms in the country was on the rise. And when I looked into it, the movie starts with these very real facts.
But in 2018, there were so many requests for exorcisms that the Vatican held a two-week conference in Rome to train new exorcisms. And this is real. Right. This isn't real. This isn't real. This isn't real. This is fact. This happened. And I contacted the local chapter of the International Association of Exorcists. Really? So that's a real organization. Oh, yeah, yeah. I didn't even know that. It's in the film. I, IIA, IAE. Yeah, that's right. And there, there's a branch not far from me. Really?
Yes. I am. I'm blind is blowing right now. I know that IAE was real. I'm from the movie Real. That's what makes this real. Real. Real loving. This is shaking the Irishman. All right. And on the more, the more boring side, but to me was fascinating was we always ask ourselves this with Tom Flotish. Who cut this shit together? Yeah. And who, and why are they filming it?
And even when you know it's a movie, if you're going to get the magic moment where I fake you out and make you question reality, if I'm going to capture the magic, I've got to answer why is it edited? Who filmed it? Yeah. And so I used my experience as an attorney in this particular matter, but there is an actual exception to the hearsay rule in court, right? You can't introduce evidence that's hearsay. But if it's a business record, if you keep the same record all the time, it's an exception.
You can put that in court. It's not hearsay because there's some reliability to doing it consistently. And it occurred to me that the Catholic Church could ostensibly be recording these exorcisms as a business record because people get hurt all the time in exorcisms, right? So to prevent lawsuits, to cover their ass, they could film it. In fact, they would have to. They'd have to. They'd have to. Every one of them is an order to be evidence. They would have to film every one of them.
And otherwise it's hearsay. It doesn't get admitted as evidence. And so I thought there's, I mean, it's almost so boring that it's like, it has the ring of truth because it's boring. But that answers the question, why would anyone film this? Why didn't they stop filming it? But that's the perfect answer to it. That's why I was telling it. There's no question from the viewer like why the hell are they filming it? You explain it right in the beginning of the film.
It's like, okay, so you contacted your local chapter of the IAE. I did. I did. But we're not interested in talking to me. Real. They were too busy because as the movie points out, also real fact, there are thousands of requests for exorcisms every year. Crazy. That's insane. Our exorcisms real, I can't say. Are there a lot of people out there who are hurting and who are in pain? Yes. Requesting. What, sorry. I mean, there's a lot of people out there requesting them.
There's a lot of people requesting. Exorcisms, that's for damn sure. And even if you didn't believe in any of this stuff, our nurse will tell you, the placebo effect is responsible for up to one third of the effectiveness of the medicine you take. So who's to say that's not real? If it's, if your mind has opened you up to some other worldly entity and your mind shuts the door because of the belief and the power of an exorcism, what's not real about that? Yeah, exactly. You know, I mean, right?
I think we've seen that in a couple of extras in films where it's like, well, they believe they're being exercised, then they may or probably will go away. Yeah. Right. So what? Sorry, go ahead. No, I was just going to say, if you have something to say on that, that's great. I was just going to delve deeper into. Yeah, please. Let's get into obviously we have the demonology book in the film. I mean, that's real. Is there any realness to that? Is there any like seven? Some questions or something?
You could go ahead. So there is a lot of mythology around demons and angels and interestingly, like a lot of it's considered canon and Catholicism, but it's not in the Bible, but still people treat it like it's real. And so there are there are two books, two famous works, the key of Solomon and the the Binsfields Guide to Demons and that lays out this entire hierarchy that there are seven kings of hell, each one representing one of the traditional seven deadly sins.
And the sort of secret theme to all my movies is that each one so far has been about a different king and a different deadly sin, right? Sure. The leader, if you've seen it, is about a zeal and about gluttony because it's a lot of oral horror, a lot of close ups of mouths and eating and things like that. And this movie, I won't give it away, but the demon responsible for this also is associated with a seven, one of the seven deadly sins. And it affects each character.
Each character has been affected by this particular symbol. Pay attention, viewer. That's right. And that's all real. I mean, it's real in the sense that it's been written about since medieval times. Sure. You know, and so. And is that where those, is that what those like the binford, is that what that dates back to? Yeah, I mean, bin fields is, is, is, are bins fields, binford's like a fucking construction brand.
No, I'm worried I'm saying it wrong and I'm going to get like, I'm going to get like, I, I, I, it's been something. I got all cool box binfield. Yeah, binford, right? But there are the, I mean, this, this kind of lore goes back, I mean, centuries, right? Yeah. It's ancient. I did check it is, it is Peter binfield. Yeah. 1589. Wow. Wow. Right. Right. So this was like a monk or something riding about the proposed seven demon kings of hell, right?
Yeah. He was, he was a bishop and a theologian and he wrote this out and, and it's like, wasn't a work of fiction. So it's really kind of weird. And I don't know if it's sort of like his personal philosophy or whatever, but then it became, it became an accepted part of the war. Did you, did the, so this text like exists somewhere? It does. And the demons in it and the principles in it, predate binfield.
So for example, the demon Azazel, who was the, the focus of Sinitor, goes back predates Christianity. Yeah. Azazel has been around since the pagans worshiped Azazel before Judaism and, and, and concurrently with Judaism and then eventually made its way into Christianity. Yeah. This is pagan time like, like, like 400 AD or even, even before that. Yeah. Exactly. I mean, even, even before the birth of Christ. Yeah. So this, yeah.
Yeah. So in the film, Father Matthews, the sort of the leader of this, of this exorcism crusade, Scotty plays father Lucas, who is somewhat the assistant, but then, yeah. And then you have Jason Potter, cinematographer, Jack of all trades, editor. He plays Deacon John, who is sort of the glorified youth pastor that is there to document. He's a tech. He's a tech guy, but he had to come from the church, right? Right. Right. Exactly.
So, which, which, which we all have a tour with the camera though, which is a beautiful thing. It's true. The camera gets passed around. You know, you get to see everybody. It's not like it's the same camera. Yeah. You see, John, you see, you see, yeah, Father Matthews. Yeah, Father Matthews. Which is great. I think actually, oh no, I do hold it at the end. I was going to injury too. You do. You do.
But anyway, so, so Father Matthews, and you'll see it in the trailer, the, the quote that I'm so used to hearing now from the trailer is when, when, you know, when I get the call from the bishop, I'm not an extra society. I just play by saying the same. I have my briefcase, which, you know, basically bring the same thing to every exorcism. That's where it ends in the trailer. But then in the scene, he pulls out all these things he takes to every exorcism.
And yeah, one of them is this book of demonology that's that we had made, right? There was a real version that Carmelo and Nick had made that, I believe you just sort of masked like a real book, right? So we, it's actually a Bible. It's a giant, very, very old Bible. Like it was, when I found it, I was falling apart and like, this book has character. That thing is awesome, man. Yeah. Yeah. Well, it's like a brick without giving a spoiler.
It is then used as a weapon in the end and to physically, as a physical weapon and are the amazing Joe Castro who did all of our practical effects. I believe through a version of it that you could hit someone with together safely in an hour, right? Yeah, within an hour, he said, you're in for a book. He's an old book with an hour. And for some reason, I have a lot of spray paint. So he like produced a book that looked damn near identical.
Oh, you'll see, you'll, you have a ton of spray paint that I knocked over in the basement. Yeah, you'll see that. So because I paid action figures, good segue. Let's spend a minute talking about a fucking great Joe is. You're not huffing paint in the basement, right? Yeah. I was going to finish off that thought though with the book of demonology is sort of maybe the on screen version of the real life like bins field demonology, right? I mean, right. It's sort of, it's the representation of it.
And in the way cooler name, right in the movie presented as like, Hey, this is the Catholic Church's guide and it's never reprinted and it's passed down. Yeah. That part is maybe a little embellished, but the idea that there are these real guides out there, you know, that really interested me. And it also occurred to me that like, I mean, maybe there are some tricks of the trade we don't know about. So yeah, I felt it was appropriate to take that license.
And, and before we move on to do you now in the film, it's obvious in the beginning such midway through that father Matthews is very, he's taking the extra sums seriously, but, but they're specifically a part real quick. It's like an off to the side part when, when they end of the room and he's like, Oh, you're in the wrong section. Like we're not dealing with like these big guys. You know, we're dealing with this other thing. Right.
And then it turns out we are dealing with like one of these fucking big, heavy hitters. Exactly. Yeah. Yeah. My boss of demons. Exactly. So I make a racial with me. Don't you? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Was that was that sort of pulled from just your imagination or, or is there some truth that like there these demons have way more power and there's underlings and all that stuff, you know, that part is part of the law, right?
So the whole idea is that the first demons were fallen angels who, who with Lucifer waged war on God. And most of what Catholics consider canon there doesn't come from the Bible. It comes from John Milton's Paradise Lost, which describes in detail the fall of these angels and who fell. And so these are really the lieutenants. These are, these are Satan's Lucifer's lieutenants here.
And then underneath of them are all of the, the scores and scores of demons, you know, you know, my personal philosophy is that the, that all of this is really trying to tell us that as human beings, as people who can choose, you can be a demon or an angel that, that you can be elevated to this perfection or you can descend into the depths.
And so, you know, I don't know what demons are if they're in human entities or if they were human entities, but that's how I see it is you've got these angels created directly by God, but then you have these scores of, of their soldiers. So, so one of the things that occurs in the movies are symbols. And I won't say how they appear, but there are symbols and, and they're awesome. Yeah, they work really great. Thanks to Greg Lynn for that.
Symbols and numerology, all of which is really associated with the demons we're playing with here. And, and it has to do with how many legions they command. That's what those numbers mean. So, so yes, answer your question very carefully. Yeah. I haven't heard you specifically say that in, because I've heard you answer that question at a warhound in the Q and A and then in Chicago and, and on another podcast, I didn't know that that was the number, perhaps, of legions that they command.
That's right. That's pretty cool. I'm kind of getting creeped out here in my room here. It's like, it's like, it's working out here. I'm getting really creeped out. Let me tell you, let me tell you something creepy. So, in, in the movie, as part of the exorcism, we recount the very famous battle between Jesus and the demon legion that he exercises. And this is from where the movie gets its name. I never told anybody this, but this is what happened, right?
So, in, in, in that scene, Jesus says to this man who's possessed by a demon, he says, tell me your name, and the demon says, we are legion for we are many. And what's interesting is everyone reads that as the demon's name is legion. But actually, if you think about how powerful the name is and why Jesus asked for it, the demon has very cleverly avoided Jesus' question. Because a legion is a, a group of soldiers. And I believe a, a Roman legion was 5,000. Well, yes.
So the demon might be saying, I'm, I am, my name is legion. He might also be saying there are 5,000 demons in this person. Oh, God. But either way, what he's done is he's very cleverly without avoiding the command of God. He's avoided giving his name. That's why the name of the demon is so fucking important. Yeah. And this isn't, this isn't new though, right?
I mean, I think we've seen, well, first of all, I've said this on a couple other venues that we've talked is that we had made this film and then sort of soon after, not very soon, maybe a year later, I mean, the Pope's exorcist came out and I watched it. And a lot of it shared a lot of the beginning titles that share it. They were using a lot of the same facts and lore. And I don't know if he specifically used this in that movie. I think they might have.
But there's been other exorcists or possession type films where it is at least stated that the name of the demon has power, right? I mean, I think we've seen that somewhere else, right? Yeah. And I'm not sure what are the films we've seen it in. But it is biblical. And there's the reason there's similarity between some of the facts or lore we use and the Pope's exorcist and for that matter, every exorcism movie is because I didn't invent most of this.
Most of this is what some people believe so much that they'll call the church in beg for an exorcist movie. So this stuff is real in that sense. It's real and that it exists outside of this film and affects people's lives, you know? So that's a great question. As far as naming the demon goes, the important thing about it is there's what they call a truth in the poetry. And that's the kind of truth that you don't get with literal words. And what does that mean in English or not, egghead?
What that means in English is the first fucking thing you have to do if you want to solve a problem is identify the problem. Yeah. And again, our medical correspondent will tell you what's the first thing you've got to do if you've got a sick patient. Diagnosed. It's herpes. Diagnosed. Herpes is raging herpes. You have the diagnosis, right? I know the name of the disease. The name of the disease. The name of the disease. The name of the disease. Herpes. The name of the herpes, the sequel.
The name of the herpes. That's the secret you do. You diagnose the illness. You can't give me medicine if you don't know what the fuck is wrong with me. You got to name what the illness is. That's why you got to name what this demon is. Yeah. So all my philosophy is just trying to say, look, there's something really true about this idea that you cannot overcome an enemy or a disease or a demon without knowing what the fuck it is. Yeah, true. Completely. All right.
You can talk about a few of them. No. Go ahead, you guys. Yeah. Someone's taking the ball. It's tricky. Jason, tell me what you're going to do this. Jason, Jason, Jason, how did you do it? How often and what were your interactions like with the amazing Joe Castro? Joe Castro is very particular about his craft. Oh, yeah. And it shows in the quality. It does. Oh, yeah. Yeah. So if you guys don't know, so Joe Castro is a big name in the B movie horror effects space.
And he's been working for like 30 years. Yeah. I think he's got like under 200 movies under his belt now, something something like just it's just like a comical number. It's like 200 movies. Yeah. It's crazy. And he's just the type of guy he's on set. You have planned for a lot of things. But then besides those things, he's sitting there offering suggestions. I'm other cool shit. He can whip up real quick.
I mean, some of the stuff that he just had for ideas like like some of the effects, I don't want to give it away. They were just things. You're like, yeah, do this. Let's see. It looks like he'd do it. Like, yeah, it looks great. And like he did that though we're explaining. So we just trusted him. And some of it was just his ideas on the on a few things. I mean, he's like he's like a unset mugiver of special effects. Like, like he can you give him an idea and he'll be like, yeah, sure.
Do you have like a, do you have like a bar of soap or fork and like a paper towel roll? I can make I can I can make a carburetor. Yeah, he really is. And that's what makes him great for this kind of a film is is you know, we're a lot of people wearing different hats and it's a micro budget. You need people who are creative and scrappy and willing to roll with it and figure it out and get it on on the ice sometimes. He did a lot of preparation.
There's at least one effect in the movie which you all know what I'm talking about. I won't name it. I think it might be briefly in the trailer, but he prepared that at home and brought that through TSA and how he got how that man can still fly across the United States. Yeah, I know. Oh my God. Did you have everything planned out? You had all the effects planned out. So he did all that, but there was a little more.
Then there's stuff like the book or whatever that comes up and we're like, yeah, we didn't really, you know, totally solve that problem and he solved it. Well, did he end up shipping some stuff to you beforehand or at the time? I don't remember if he shipped anything. He showed up with like gigantic cases that he included like all sorts of stuff. Yeah, which he then left at your place, right? No, he took his stuff with him. Yeah, we were like, I sent back with a camera.
Okay, do you still have the prosthetics? No, he does. He can't. Oh, okay. Okay. He's at the work shop. Nice. Nice. So, I mean, that's no spoiler there. I mean, he shared an awesome post of Jason Potter with a nail sticking out of his eye, his tear duct. So, yeah, that happens. Yes. And Joe, Joe really happens. Yes. So, so we do like the effects.
So this is going to be more of like, you know, I mean, the regular X just had some effects, but this has a little more effects, a little more blood, a little more gore than your typical version of this movie, which, you know, give me the blood. It's Halloween. Come on now. And so, so I think that really stands out for this movie too, which you guys will see in the trailer. You'll see a little more graphic blood, you know, what gets thrown against the wall in the trailer. Who knows what that is?
You know, it's so, so it's there's a lot of easter eggs there and not too sickening gross though. Like, my wife liked the movie. Yeah. Well, it's just the right amount. So, I love how many easter eggs are in this film. If you are, if you are an eagle, I viewer at home, like watch this film and then watch it again frame by frame and pay attention to like things that are happening in the background, pay attention to some certain nuances.
They're, you're going to discover something new every single time you watch it. Pay attention to the lore. Pay attention to the lore. Yeah, especially if you're the kind of person who's listening to this podcast who loves horror and wants to talk about it, like have fun because we've thrown in, I mean, we're horror nerds too. So, we're like, we're throwing everything we can in the back.
There's things that we didn't mean to throw in that other people now interviewing us that have seen it have been like, I saw that homage to this and we're like, oh, shit, I guess it sort of was, huh? Yeah. Yeah, it's true. Sometimes you just do things and second nature thought without realizing like, it's a part of something else that that's just part of your foundation, you know?
Yeah. The more we are delving into this, the more that it is harder to talk about a lot of behind the scenes stuff without having spoilers. So I like the track, Ron, because we're talking about a lot of, you know, the lore about the movie, how it's made, the story, not giving too much away. So it is turning out to be, it will be very different. So you should guys should definitely join us for the live commentary, which we'll be doing after a while. Yeah, that's a good takeaway.
So, something we want to talk about is that we're going to do a Kickstarter and we're going to kickstart the Blu-ray release, right? So this movie's got great streaming distribution, but we frankly have just, all the hundreds of thousands of people have viewed the trailer, people keep asking us, is there going to be a physical release? Yeah. So the answer to that is, sure, if you want it, we'll do it.
So we'll do a Kickstarter where you can get the physical Blu-ray and we're going to launch that on October of the 29th. And that day, we're going to do a one of our live, that day or the day after, we'll do one of our live commentary episodes. I was going to say that we could, we could sort of talk about it as being that day now, but we could pow out about that and maybe it was like that a Friday night is better. I don't know.
So, yeah, if the fans are like, hey, we'd say it on a Friday night and watch this with you. So, yeah, that week that we launched, let's just say, we're going to do a live episode with you and we'll take your questions on air and we'll give you the spoiler behind the scenes of the movie and watch it with you. And hopefully you'll join us for that and for the Kickstarter for the Blu-ray.
Yeah. Yeah. So what I was getting at is that that episode where we will physically sit here and watch the movie, provide a live commentary to it. So we'll say, hey, hitting play right now. And then you can watch it on your streaming platform of choice while we hit play and we're watching it together and we will then probably talk about a lot of behind the scenes like how we did this shit and what was going on. And we got a lot of funny stories and things like that.
Maybe Carmelo can go mobile with his laptop or phone and be like, we were standing in that room. That's where he's standing if the viewers are watching on YouTube. Yeah. I mean, in the room you're sitting right now. That's true. Well, it's our room is in the movie. That's true. That's not very room. I do want it because we didn't really get there yet. Carmelo does say some shit's been going on in his house since we've been filming there.
Oh, talk about Joe Castro and Jason Potter both stayed in the house when there's this shit. I don't think they experienced anything though. Did they? They didn't experience. No, no, to my knowledge, no one experienced anything while they were here. Started after since the movie on the third floor of the house where I don't go up alone anymore. Ever. So you know, you don't go up there. No, rarely. Especially at night. Not long up there when I visited like not too long ago.
No, even in my guinea pig. I didn't warn you. It was haunted. I was with my wife. Yeah, we were both up there. I had a partner. Right. That's right. They couldn't hear the ghosts moaning over the sounds of their playing Scravel. Yeah. Exactly. We have the buddy system, the buddy system. The buddy system. Yeah. Yeah. Anyway, the lights in the third floor will regularly turn out and off on there on their own. And we will, you know, I'll come home and I'll look and I'll see.
Oh, fuck, like the lights are on. Who left the lights on? And it's just, you know, Christine are like none of us turned the lights on and we weren't up there. Yeah, she texted us sometimes. You know, I'm out a lot and she'll text me like, did you leave the light on upstairs and like, fuck, it's the ghost again, man. So I went up there. I went up there about a month after he filmed with Holy Oil and I blessed the third floor with the Holy Oil. You really did that. I sure fucking did.
It's nearly every single. My uncle called me the other day. My uncle's studies demonology and his studies profusely over the years. He called me up when he saw the trailer of the movie and he's like, hey, I just saw the trailer for the movie you made. Did you go up and blessed that room? Because you have to go through that. No shit, shit. No shit. Let's see if the water lights them safe. You're not fucking around. In fact, I want to put him in the next fucking found footage what we do.
That's fucking great. Dude. But it ain't so easy. Did you say some stuff was going on in your closet, like your room closet or was that just upstairs? So it was just the upstairs. You're thinking of the story from Sinator or something and something happened to me for real. Well, you're saying that was in the house to you stated, right? Yes, it was not my house that the Sinator event happened, but it was Axe Girlfriend's house. Oh, you're talking about like the sleep paralysis. Sleep paralysis.
Yes, that's it. Yes, yes, yes, yes. Okay, I think that's it. But when we filmed Sinator, you stayed in the house, we filmed it in and you were like a little paranoid there, but it ended up being like just the owner of the house, right? Or something? Yeah, it was the owner of the house and he acted like who the fuck are you? And I'm like, the guy who rented the house. Yeah, the guy who paid his money to be and cleared it that I can stay here in your house. Right. There's a fucking movie going on.
There's cameras everywhere. Like, are you not sure why? Yeah. You looked at me like, like you, I was like, who are you? I'm like, I'm, I, they know I'm staying here. You know, a cool story, bro. Like, could you have introduced yourself like a normal human being? Yeah, yeah. Yeah. Well, I got to was so scary. It was the middle of the night and I saw, I heard the footsteps and I was like, I'm the girl. Yeah, that one for you. You're filming a horror movie. You hear footsteps up or level.
Yeah, it's fuck. But I'm finally next one. I finally get to do is I finally get to go into the woods. I'm very excited for it. I know, man. And we were the, and Scotty and I were there once, a lot less prepared, but still had a great time. So I know we're going to have a really good time. We're not fucking blast the next one. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, go for it. I was going to say we are going to make another film, it's sort of on the docket for next year in the summertime.
And, you know, we'll see. It's going to be our biggest budget yet by far. Yeah. It'll be the best of both worlds because it'll be the close-knit group and, you know, creative, getter-done-ness of named the demon. But it'll be on a scale closer to Sinitor. So hopefully the combination of quality and, and grit will make you a real fucking great movie that you're going to be. Yeah, yeah. Let's get a little bit higher of a tear.
Should we, I do want to touch on before we just talk a couple more things about this film, not some behind the scene stuff but not giving away anything. So for instance, how we even decided to make this movie and then, you know, some of the prep work and, and just some of the cool things that we might not get to in the commentary. I'm trying to think of things that like, what are we not going to get to while we're frantically trying to talk about scenes as they happen in front of the computer?
Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, and of course we'll probably do some amazing add-on commentaries that will be included in that Blu-ray if you guys will sort of follow the Kickstarter because we're not even, I mean, Jesse's not on this right now. She's probably not going to be on that live commentary. Potter who has edited the whole thing. I actually did just to plug them. Jesse and I did a podcast a couple days ago, the Evil Deaths.
If you look them up, the Evil Deaths podcast, I've actually guessed it on there a couple of times, Scotty. Actually, I don't know if you made it. Did you ever make it once, Scotty? Well, I might have been in one with you guys. I don't think we talked about the band, Rob's guested on it. So you guys should check them out. You do one with the band in, yeah, but anyway. But yeah, there's going to be a lot of cool stuff in the Blu-ray. And they've hotter just to that sledgehammer wood and the...
Yeah, which I need to listen to. The sledgehammer horror is awesome. It's awesome in one, too. Ken over there is awesome. I did an episode of him years ago when he just started, a couple of years ago, and they're really blown up now. Really awesome husband and wife duo. Yeah. But no, I just... Yeah, go ahead. I was going to say the idea for name of demon always comes from the best spot is in the hot tub time machine. Hot tub time machine. That's right. That's right.
I like to tell people that's the room where it happened and Hamilton. Yeah, we exactly. Whenever Scotty and I and Carmelo and if Jason Potter happens to be there, sometimes he's there, sometimes he's not. It's always at least the three of us. We will. Scotty is a hot tub. Carmelo is a hot tub. I have a hot tub at my house. Is Jason a hot tub? Do you have a hot tub, Jason? No, hot tub. We all like whiskey slash scotch. And we all like cigars.
And so we'll just get in the hot tub with a whiskey in the cigar. And four hours will go by in the blink of an eye. It's just gone. It's just you just teleport to another day. It's true. But that's where you came with the idea. I don't know. We're in Colorado in my hot tub for like Bruce Fest or something. I don't know if it was that time or if it wasn't Bruce Fest or was it even earlier. I don't know. It was after the city of Peruvian.
Recently after Cineater, maybe it was the Cineater Denver premiere or something like that. That sounds right. I think that's right. I think that's right. It might have been that. We were literally in the hot tub. And, you know, we were just talking about like, oh, what's next? What do we do? And Scotty and I had done a little bit of work on some larger productions that we weren't creatively a part of at all, just as actors. And we're like, well, maybe we're just stick with, I don't know.
And, and, and, and tipsy smokin' scar. I think I was like, well, you know, we didn't really nail it with she walks the woods. And so I would, I'd probably do a found bunch of possession movie if we had a good script. Yeah, like a scary thug. And then Camille was like, well, I think we can make it scary. Camille was like, yeah, we can make it happen. You know, then we moved on to a different subject. It was maybe, might have been like three days after Camille got home.
And he's like, oh, here's the, here's the outline of most of the script for that found bunch of possession film. That's right. I, I wrote it on the way home. I, I used my notes app on my phone, the outline the entire movie. And then Nicola and I just pounded the fucker out. And like, yeah. Yeah. Here's that script we talked about and they were like, what? And I'm like, well, I guess we gotta do it. And then you were here and some of the senior stuff.
You're like, we were like, I'm gonna make this really fucking scary. And, and you frickin' did, man. Yeah. We, we talked about, we were talking locations and stuff. At first we were gonna stick with Colorado. Again, that's just where Scotty and I are based. And then Jason Potter is based here as well. And then Jesse, who's been in a few of our films and just sort of our network. But we didn't really have the perfect location.
We were talking about maybe Scotty's house for this, only because it was perfect for this single shot. I wanted that we got at Camille's house. But, but yeah, Camille, you're like, oh, you know, we could do it in my place. Well, we were, we were looking at renting places here in Colorado, some older houses, the renting in Chicago, you know, we were like, we went to your house for the senior premiere, like, what, let's just do it here, man. This is perfect.
Yeah. Nicholas actually originally suggested my house because he was like, man, we can rehearse every shot. Which is so important. And that house is so important. Yeah. I think what really made this, I mean, obviously you can't. We came to Colorado when we shot Senator and it was shot very well and very on time and very on budget and it was scheduled. But so it's doable even if you're coming here.
But what helped with this film, gosh, yeah, was having your act, you know, you had access to your own house, of course, unlimited leading up to the film. Nick was there. You guys were able to rehearse all these shots. You were able to map everything out. And I think it just made everything so much quicker. I mean, we showed up as actors and producers, whatever. And like you guys had everything planned out to the T. We just shut up for work. And you guys knew exactly the vision.
Like you, you know, you and Nick and Jason too, you guys had that vision of like exactly what you wanted. And it was so easy just to hop in there and do it. And, and it was kind of cool. It was, it was wintertime in Chicago. So it gives you that like cold isolation feel, which you guys know. And it was really added to the movie, doesn't it? It really added to the scene where we go outdoors briefly, it happened to be snowing that night. Yeah, that was awesome.
So it's one of those things you like can't, especially on a low budget, you can't plan for. So, you know, you just, you make what you can. And sometimes those moments of lock and improv are where the magic happens. Yeah, exactly. Yeah. Yeah. There was a lot of lightening and bottle moments. And we certainly capitalize on every single one that was present to us. Oh, for sure. We did. We did. One of my favorite shots in the movie, I won't ruin it, but it's in the trailer.
And it's, it's, um, it just, we planned the shot. We blocked the shot, but then it happened and, and right in the middle of it, you know, the water splashes onto the camera. And it was all accident. And I was, yeah, chef's kiss. I think I remember at first, you're like, let me look at that. I don't know what, and then you look, like, like, oh my God. Yeah, I was like, oh shit, that's cool.
Yeah. You know, I didn't think of it while we were blocking it, it didn't occur to me, but then it just happened. And it was like, well, that's, I'm not sure I could have made it happen on command. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, yeah. And there's some technicalities that you, uh, you know, that are different when you're working with the found footage. Obviously, there's a lot of things that are more simple, like, right. Specifically for this film, we went like super raw dog.
I mean, we like, we didn't use sink sound. We didn't have a sound person. We use all in camera sound because that's how it would have been, right? Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. We didn't use like a lighting team because that's just how it would have been. We'll see. I do it. I do it. So we, yeah, of course, we ride on the other all my long seven days straight. Nightsheets. That's right. Yeah. One shot.
I mean, that someone who's not a filmmaker might not think about is making sure you're capturing what you want to see because when you're doing fun footage, I'm trying to remember what we had for this. Did we have the tiny little like, what were we monitoring with? Do you remember? Was that a, was it a? We had a remote, we had a remote monitor that I could hold. So we did, we didn't have that. And that was, it was great. And we were, we were just a, we had that the whole time we did rate range.
And we have a lot of time. There were many times we were like hiding in a bathroom while you guys were filming. Yeah, yeah. Because that was as I was going to say is there's not a lot of range on that monitor. So it was, we would be a meet basically behind the camera with it. And which isn't, I guess that unusual for most.
Sure. But you know what, in terms of what you're trying to say, which is capturing what you want, it's my favorite thing about having made a found footage movie was that in a, in a found footage movie, it all looks like they're just holding a camera and you get whatever bullshit you get. But it only, it's only accidental in theory. In reality, those shots are rehearsed and planned to get the great shots that you want. Yeah. And still make them look natural and accidental.
Yeah. Yeah. That's, that's so much. Yeah. I mean, like the room's dark, you get a dark camera, you know, you, you, the lights on, you'll see the camera, you know, the, the screen's light, you know, so it's all very pertained to whatever room you're in, very real and very, the ambiance is there. It's, that's where, where, where we were standing, filming.
So yeah. Yeah. Well, yeah, I think you're talking about she, she walks the woods, the monitor went out a few times and I remember calling when she walks the woods now that we used two different cameras, well, three different cameras actually. And the, specifically one of the cameras had to have night vision, like when you just write a script, you're like, oh, you know, this is now they're using the night vision camera.
And then you don't realize that like, you only cameras that have night vision are like camcorders from the early 2000s. Yeah. Right. We just don't make the cameras don't have night vision on them. Yeah. Yeah, it's just not real. It's not really that real. Yeah. And that was something we addressed in this movie was it's not common to have the time and date stamp on your, your recording either, but that was part of the business record thing.
He says that in the beginning, he's like, make sure you have this for a, in case when you had time and date stamp. Right. So right after that, that's the first thing he says. Yeah. But to finish the thought in she walks the woods, the night vision, quote unquote, cam was older and had no ability to hook to a monitor. And so that's when we were doing the whole record it, watch it back on the fucking flip out screen. Like, you know, so yeah, we didn't quite have that issue with this film.
Luckily, we, uh, we did use like a pretty basic camera that does well in low lighting, just a Sony like photographer's camera and a seven, but, uh, they luckily make some attachments where you can have like a remote about the size of like a iPhone plus screen, you know, that you're looking at. Yeah. And you know, since you mentioned she walks the woods, I've often said this to you guys in private and I love the chance to say this, you know, publicly for the moment.
There are definitely, there are things about it that you guys are really hard on that I liked. And, and one of the things about she walks the woods that is, first of all, the effects and then we are great. That said, we all know Joe would have, you know, really, a rocket shit. But, yeah. But the, the effects and then we are great. And the, the, the thing about she walks the woods that is both good and bad is that it does actually feel like found footage.
Like a lot of it really does feel like you guys just recorded, you know, what was happening because that is what you did. And that, yeah, and authenticity, it does make it feel like it's found footage. So that's, in that sense, it's a good thing. In a pacing sense, it's slow. Yeah. And so, and that's because you didn't have really have a script you've talked about this publicly. It was an outline that you guys were winging.
Yeah. And that's, you know, it's, I mean, it's hard as script is, is paced and it's outlined and it's broken down. Yeah. So, so that's both good and bad about she walks the woods and that's what's distinct about this movie. She walks the woods feels real because it really was. It really wasn't scripted, you know, where her. Yeah. And, and so named the demon is, you know, is much more scripted and, and tries very hard to capture the pay this is real, you know, feeling self-perchure. For sure.
So yeah, those are my, you know, and, and take that group of men and different on she walks the woods, right? Yeah. You know, I mean, so I, and, and maybe I have a little more distance than you guys do to comment on it, I think, right? But when I think about named the demon and I see the hype and I think about, you know, I've rewatched it several times at film festivals and I'm like, man, it fucking works. It's fucking good.
Every time I watch it over, I'm like, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, I was, first critical about it when I first saw it, even before all the effects were done, the sound effects, then I watched that horror house like, damn, that was better than I thought. When I saw it at the premier's cock, I'm like, fuck, that's pretty fucking good. That's pretty scary. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I'm more or less critical. Like, I'm pretty hard myself and, yeah.
You know, it wasn't, I wasn't too hard of myself and, you know, I was, I thought it was, I think it's a good movie. Yeah. It's going to be the most terrifying movie, you know, that everyone watches this year. It's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it just, look, just look at the library of films coming out, you know, in October and November. We've been getting feedback about that.
And of course, scary means different things to different people. But I think in general, we, we, again, I've talked about how Carmell and I have done a couple of interviews. We've talked to some, some people that have seen it. And of course, at first, we just didn't really know what to think. When you create something, you were there for the whole process and you've seen it in all these stages and it's hard to really be, you know, objectively judgmental about it.
And so when people started coming to us saying, wow, like, I had to, it'll be in this, this trailer that I'm, that all, we're sharing, we're sharing some short trailers on social media to, to build awareness. And we have some quotes from some of these other podcasts and outlets and they're saying, like, I did check my bed, all the rooms in my house, I went to bed because I was so fucking scared.
And it was like, it's just one of those films that did to these people, like what the first viewing of paranormal activity did for me and some of these were you, and taking a Deborah Logan where if you do watch it by yourself in the dark, lasting at night, I mean, you might have some nightmares when you go to bed, you know? Oh, yeah.
It was so funny, like, after you walked through Premiere, Liz, my wife, she was like saying, she had trouble sleeping a little bit because she was like thinking about the lore and stuff and like, even though it's me on screen and, you know, seeing people that she knows. And there was funny, like the next morning, my wife and daddy's wife, like, we're just talking about the movie together, like the backstory in this man.
Two girls that don't like love, or just love it because we like it, you know, like getting into the movie. I'm like, look at this, look at this. It'll be awesome. From the feedback I've been getting, and then when I watched it again recently, it's like, I mean, it has the potential to get under your skin. People, nothing against, it's just a totally different movie. Like, you know, terrifying three is coming out soon here. And there's all this hype about that.
And I'm actually glad the second one was great. And I love them. They're like the most fucking graphic movies you've ever seen so far. But people calling it like the scariest movie. Like that stuff to me, like isn't scary. Like that's very graphic. It's boring. Yeah, right. It doesn't scare me. You know what I mean? It's just it's like a visual, right? Just smorgasbord, you know what I mean? Well, yeah, for guys like us, those kinds of effects are cool for entirely different reasons.
Like, oh, fuck, look at that. That looks so real. Oh, it's so nasty. Like, yeah. And we're seeing God on your recommendation, I just watched in a violent nature. Yeah. You know, fuck your poles are head through. It's exactly what I'm fucking talking about. You've got a closer head right there or chest. And I'm like, I've never seen that before. I haven't even heard of it. That's new. Right. So you're watching it, right?
And you were like, the first couple of kills happening, like, are they not going to show anything? And they're like, that will happen. You're like, oh, they're showing everything. Yeah, they were just they were just building up. And but for that whole movie, like, I, which I love fucking loved, but wasn't scared. The last two minutes, I was very scared. Other than that, I wasn't scared. But you're not like going to bed with nightmares because of the kills, you know?
Exactly. Yeah. But you know, you make what you know, you make what you love. Name the demon scares me because I, you've heard me talk about it now for this hour long show. This shit's real to me and some important. It's very, very real. That's what makes it scary because, you know, like when you see in violent nature, when you watch like paranormal activity or something like that, it's like, it's so out rage. And over the top, it's like, well, what is it?
It's like, it's like, I put paranormal on the same plane as this one. Like, that's the shit that freaks me out. But in a violent nature, yeah. It's like, it just requires so much suspension of disbelief for you to like, you know, for you to be invested in it. Whereas like, name the demon. It doesn't require you to, you know, suspend any, any belief because it's like what you're watching is very, very real, you know?
Yeah. And the found footage is happening in a house that looks like your house, in a normal family's house that the characters are, the characters are your neighbors and friends. It's like, no, yeah. It's happening in the house next door right now. You know, it feels that way. It's very real. Yeah. You know, I love a lot of the comments I see on like Instagram and TikTok in response to the trailer, a lot of the comments are, is this real or not?
Like, is it was this real footage that they put together or is this, are these the actors? Yeah. And there are definitely parts that we want to hear. Yeah. I wanted it to look like a snuff film. I wanted you to look at this and be like, that is a Serbian film. Yeah. Why did you send that? I don't want to see this. Why am I watching this? That's the sense I wanted from some of this. And some of the scenes are shot in such a, in a kind of a bizarre and kind of long way.
And it's intentional to make you feel like, yeah, this camera was just sitting there. Well, this fucking thing happened. And it's fucking hard to watch. Yeah. Why a pair of low activity? That's why Deborah Logan. That's why Blair Witch for the beginning, all of those get me. I mean, and this multiplies that, amplifies it even more. So. Yeah. Well, so you guys, I think that's pretty much wraps. I mean, this day we've got over an hour this time. We could keep talking, but. Yeah. We're too much.
No, again, we're too much. Again, we've, Carmelo and I did the podcast. I did one with Jesse where I mean, we've done for an hour and a half and are more. And most of it was behind the scenes, the spoiler stuff. And so we could, that's a whole nother thing that we will have on our live commentary. And we will have in the blu-ray. There's so much more to talk about about how we did certain things, how the effects are pulled off. The story is a pertaining to those takes.
Yeah. And, and, and, and, uh, we all get very hurt on the screen. Right. Yeah. I get very hurt. Danny, if you don't mind, put the link tree in the show notes so that everyone could get up to date on, on where they can stream and where, when the Kickstarter is live and, and we'll put all of that in the, in the link in the show notes. Yeah. So just, well, to be a link tree there, you click on that link, it'll take you to a page that has further links to all of this.
You'll see, like Kickstarter streaming here, streaming here, streaming here, and, uh, you'll be able to see that. So, so yeah, we really appreciate it if you guys would check out the movie on Friday, uh, or at least the opening weekend. Yep. Over for it. Yeah. So, just know what you think, just, you know, share it, spread it around, let us know what you think. We, we'd be forever grateful and, um, I'm excited for you guys to watch it.
Yeah. Because we're, we're here because you guys, um, you guys, your support means so much to us and we wouldn't be here without you guys. So, yeah. Thank you so much. As far as upcoming episodes, we already talked about, we'll be doing a live stream, uh, around the end of October. Um, but we'll still, uh, keeping toward normal schedule, we'll have another episode in a couple of weeks in the middle of October. Yeah. That is to be determined. We haven't picked up the movie for that yet.
So, we'll probably have a normal episode in the midst and then we'll hit you with this live stream at the end of October. Yeah. Um, so, you know, it's, it's spooky month. We gotta keep it going. Oh, yeah. Halloween season, baby. Yeah. Maybe we'll even be a little bit, what, what time look at the counter? What's the Halloween's on like a weekday? This, it's on a Thursday. Yeah. It's not a Thursday, exactly. Yeah. You guys are probably all be busy if we try to do a live stream on Halloween.
I don't know. I'm not sure if we can get that right. But that's, that's why I thought to have been pretty cool, though. You know, maybe like isn't, isn't our film going to be shown in Times Square on Halloween? Well, the little stick pick. Yeah, we got a time and time square, little advertisement. Just a little ad. So, if you're in Times Square on Halloween, yeah, it's like, you know, 88 times for a few seconds throughout the day, right, Jason? Uh, 15 seconds, 88 times in 24 hours.
Yeah, I'm from the middle of the Halloween on a 15 foot digital screen. All right. If I saw that, I'd go home and watch it. We hope. We hope. We hope. All right, guys, we'll, uh, yeah, catch us in a couple of weeks. We'll, uh, we'll, uh, with, I guess, a surprise movie. Maybe we'll announce in the group, but we'll be covering a normal film and then, uh, the episode after that we'll be doing this live stream.
So, plan on joining us live and commenting and we'll be fielding comments and everything as we watch. Name the demon on, uh, one of the streaming platforms. So, all right, guys, thanks for joining us. We'll catch you next time. Thanks, guys. Good night. Don't you blame the movies? Movies don't create psychos and movies make psychos more creative. Oh, yes, there will be blood.