Welcome to The Cult Classic Horror Show. Every week you can have the conversations you've always wanted to have about the films you love. Get rid of your distractions and prepare yourself. Welcome, welcome everybody to the cult classic horror show Danny Bowden here with you guys and Yes, and Carmelo camera. Yes Scotty is out and down for the count down a man Man traveling traveling around Spain just having a good time
Yeah, yeah, his pictures look amazing. He looks like he's having a blast. Yes, miss that mother, miss that mother fucker Well, here we are today talking about alien Romulus. Yes I know I'm already gonna have to boycott the film why what I read I read certain reviews about Just go see about about certain CGI'd air vents. I didn't see anything noticeably CGI'd in that movie at all I saw it on opening three opening night the only thing in the movie that was CGI. It was like clearly CGI was
There's a cameo from the original alien. I don't want to spoil for you all but that was obviously yeah, but it wasn't like it wasn't bad I was just like look this is the best we can do and I'd rather have this than have this not be in the world and he's not really a real person So it yeah, yeah exactly and I'm really upset about the reviews that I read the review. It's the highest rated Ron Romney made a sense aliens
Like what reviews? Yeah, but we all know rotten tomatoes lies There's only like those few idiots who give bad reviews because they're like this is my chance to stand out from the crowd on the internet And they made up I read one that was like this is a Disney version of alien Are you fucking kidding me?
Like a woman gets burst to an egg it's fucking got full acid. It's I like I like to write. We'll just gotta go see it You can't hold on to my money and wait for it to be free streaming free on peacock because that's where it belongs dude Dude you haven't even seen it. Why are you hating on it? Yeah?
You're already hitting the I haven't seen the new crow either and I know that's gonna be hot That's because no one is involved with it that we deserve we all Sorry, we deserve an evil dead too with Fetty Alvarez in this I know we did really upset about it I did read that it's not near as gory is evil dead. I think a good runner up is an Fetty Alvarez alien Yeah, and it's like it's as gory as an alien movie is ever bad But that's not gory. It's not as gory as as evil dead
But it is gory for being an alien movie. Yeah, there's a lot more like explicit acid shots Get eaten through people and stuff like that like that. I mean the original alien hit almost no gore The an aliens has has some but it's mostly aliens getting blown up in splatter This had people getting like eaten by acid and shit and getting ripped in half like it was cool I just thought they did a good job and we are talking about nightbees today
Just so you don't think you're on the wrong episode a better alien movie than wrongly. Let's you haven't seen Robulous Rob don't have don't have to see it to know Also, also I am boycotting the Tom Hardy by her movie What you love Tom Hardy I do but I read I slipped up and somebody posted the ending on Instagram
Oh Rob just watch. No, you know, you know how I don't tell me the end. Don't tell I'm not gonna tell you the ending I don't like spoilers either, but you know, is it not good or you just your man you're spoiled I'm gonna get spoiled and then it's really not good Because after because I saw it and I realized okay, this is what happens
I was like well it's ruined because you know what happens Tom Hardy must die. That's what's making Rob that's what happens I just look okay look it looks spoiler alerts earmuffs bad things happen to Tom Hardy and It's not fair because we all that's why I won't watch the warrior. I won't watch it Because you great movie and it's not that bad what happens great
They end up having a great brother relationship. You think Joel Edgerton in any way shape or form Could beat Tom Hardy Well, I will say that The way they paint the movie he sure can't and then he does and so you sort of like really
Well, I think yeah, like like more about their relationship. Yeah, the week the fighting second I mean like of Tom Hardy through the fight, but they don't show it that way and it's like the injured But we all three teacher somehow beats the greatest Warrior greatest mad Max because
The whole movie and finally his hate is gone He doesn't have his super one punch knockout anymore because he doesn't hate his brother at the end That whole movie is worth it just for Nick Nolte's performance Nick Nolte playing himself in that movie exactly exactly, but I'm sorry
I just can't I can't get behind Tom Hardy ever ever losing I can't I can't give a question Batman Yeah, but I but I hate Batman except for 1989 But I don't really think as much he loses in Batman and you can't really see his face
But like is this is the same thing. I can't I won't tolerate Christian Bill losing either It's true no one knew it was Tom Hardy tell Yeah, Rob what happens when they fight again, I don't count Batman because it's a shit movie That movie doesn't count it was it was a check for both what if you know what I knew it was Tom Hardy What if you're walking down the street and all of a sudden you looked over and Tom Hardy and Christian bail were in a
altercation who would you be reading for I would break them up and tell them to hug And they would because Tom Hardy loves dogs was tell Hardy and night beast because I feel like we need a yeah I do want to say before we move on from alien Romulus that they did a great job of the What I want to say the art designed it great. I mean the art design was amazing art standing all right
Let's move on night beast. We're here talking about night beast Good god 19 well depends on where you watched it and when you watched it, but Um 82 82 yeah 82 is when it first came out And this thing's been around this thing's gotten around much like probably the female deputy in the 16 I will say me and Savannah watch it together and She don't say it. I don't want to hear how that scene inspired you to make love no
Savannah was really upset that this whole movie was ran by the itty bitty titty committee. Yeah, it really was and like she was actually really like This is supposed to be like a fun and so Lloyd Kaufman horror movie and she's like well This is the biggest bunch of flat-chested equipment was really Lloyd Kaufman horror movie and tell Troma about it So that'll be yeah, but Lloyd Kaufman should have had asked for reshoots
At least just at least just to be funny. They just adjusted body doubles for the sex scenes You get a Sergeant right from and just one scene of like family Anderson I Thought you were gonna comment on on how the sex scene inspired her to lean over and just give you the biggest open mouth kiss for five minutes straight
No, it was one o'clock in the afternoon. I just had a crab chowder Oh, yeah, the corner star does a cage and crab chowder and it was actually really good and an Italian hoagie Just so swimming in vinegar That's so you had both those things Italian hoagie and a crab chowder. Yeah, I spotted it half So yeah, like a soup soup soup soup and sandwich kind of day I was just down in Rob's neck of the woods and we had plenty of culinary adventures It was very joyous lots of pizza
A palm tree did fall down in the backyard of the house I was staying at though and waiting and Danny got to ride through it pseudo hurricane We didn't really get hit by a hurricane, but it was close Yeah, it was close and and there are several there were several bug bites so And then I got I got what you did I got his kids hooked on watching naked and afraid she he did They just watched an episode yesterday. Yeah, so when we're out in public like at the Columbia in places like that
I had waiters coming up and the kids asking me. What are we gonna watch the naked show robin? So I was thinking is no you got me inspired to rewatch them. I didn't know there's like 18 seasons there's a lot So opening thoughts I guess we've sort of gone over but I I At first I was sort of like This movie just horrible, but then as it went on it was just so hilarious in some parts that I
Danny slowly starting to come to my reason I was enjoying my movies I just started laughing out loud multiple occasions and then I was like I guess I haven't joined myself watching this movie The movie's great I watched it with commentary and then you start watching the the featurette and then they grow on you and then they're your friends And then I like the movie. Yes, how awesome. Yes, Carmella. What do you think?
I mean, I definitely see how parts were so bad it was enjoyable like I used to that used to be all I did in high school As you can see I was a virgin for a very long time my friends and I would spend every night watching bad movies And we had a a Scale I've talked about many times that we used to measure the enjoyability of these films
So this would have done pretty good on it actually. There was bad CGI Which was hilarious to look at there's there is nudity though as as Rob pointed out They were they were not well in doubt It's got a necessary sex scene in it. It's you know There's plenty there's plenty to enjoy in this movie. It's just bad. It's just bad. It's poorly made it's poorly
It's very poorly acted, but yeah, you know what though? We've watched other movies where I was like Like I know we keep coming back to this poultry guy's I could not get through it was like It was just too much And it wasn't like bad. It's good. It was just bad. This was so bad You don't know you didn't even get to like the third or fourth musical numbers. It just got worse
It's no way got any better. It's no way So I will say I will say I didn't get much worse than after you saw shit come out of an ass It didn't get much that's when I stopped and I was right having gone out for yeah Amazing So yeah, this movie was so bad. It's good. I did enjoy the experience. Will I ever rewatch it? No, no Disgusting You liked it. Obviously. I loved it. I thought this movie me and Danny found while we were browsing we were browsing chat movies and my living room and
What do we end up? Oh, we ended up watching the other Russell Crowe exorcist. Yeah, it's the newer one called but it was made before the Pope's exercise It was the one that they shelved because it was really not good It was okay. I mean but compared to the Pope's exercise. No, it was no Pope's exercise Yeah, well, they were like oh, the Pope this and he was called exorcist or exorcist called like Exorcist exorcist or exorcism
Oh, yeah, like the exorcism or something like that. Yeah, the exorcist directed directed by the son of The guy who played Damian Karrus and the original exorcist really Yes, but don't be yes, nothing to really brag about because he's not very good It had a good premise like the whole film with it did But it was one of those movies that the whole trailer was the movie but it still was Russell Crowe still great
He was still great. Oh, he was he Russell Crowe fighting demons without an Italian accent Yeah, it's not really here and when he's the one possessed Yeah, it was really it was kind and they like leaned into certain topical points that never really You don't really care about as much because like they just keep like you like you you get the twist by like 15 minutes in but they keep hinting at like no, we got it
We got it right. Yeah, we know it's good. We also we also revisited the original exorcist at your house That was that's which was very good Danny was dying of some kind of disease. He can I'm still getting over it. I'm still spinning here in there still here But no, we had I mean we really we did like four like three or four nights in a row So we did like the exit. Oh evil dead 2013 and we did we did
Directed by any other us who directed alien Romulus. Yeah, that ropers you don't have enough faith in him to give it a try. Yeah Uh, nothing to do with faith in Fetty Alvarez is the fact that we should have got an evil dead too That would have been nice. We also watched evil dead rise again Rob me and Rob and Rob said it was better the second time That was just because of your company. You said it was better the second time it was it was better the second time
Um, those of you who weren't following on social media. There was a beautiful bromance of days of Of Rob posting photos of him and Danny holding hands and sitting together and it was just beautiful and me sitting across his couch
And to be clear I am jealous. This is just me being jealous I see it in my cumolo buddy has a brand new baby Yeah, I would have been there if it had been any other day other than the birth of my child Yes, and also if you're not following on YouTube Carmo and I have whiskey drinks that we are partaking you I know into a james and black label and I should give this bullet right I could have a beer But I am so spoiled with that blowing rock North Carolina
Hmm hazy IPA nothing really well anyways Rob and I watched a bunch of movies we watched tarot we watched Uh, tarot I think I still say it's surprisingly pretty good. It's not bad. It wasn't bad For a PG for a PG 13 harming. Yeah, very good. Okay. We watched the Nicholas Cage the Arcadian. That was that wasn't too bad We had a lot of questions there were a lot of questions. I mean, I want to say it's good But like why are we doing this segment now we need to be doing this later
Yeah, we're doing what you watch. Yeah, I don't know why let's let's save this for for later So Rob loves a movie we all love them. We all love night peace. So let's just yeah
I love the strong word. Okay. It is a strong word. It's another it's another like just Shutter just really has been knocking out of the park lately with their with their suggestions Arcadian was on shutter This is I think this and they're a herd of this movie before but I really I did is fun this ridiculous It's really really good in the in the acting is bad and that's fine because well, let me tell you I mean unless your Anthony Hopkins and you know in silence of the lambs
I'm you know, you're not winning in a Academy Award anytime soon Well, I will tell you a couple of the actors the effects guy who they interviewed some people on this So I have the vinegar syndrome blu-ray now that's how these features Disgusting name and these guys were just as surprised as anyone else that Their movie from 82 was getting a blu-ray release so they were being interviewed I'm sure they were They were like what the fuck is happening
None of them are like do anything anymore. They're just like oh yeah, well Uh, yeah, that was fine. We just did this and Did any of them do anything else after this movie? Yeah a little a little. Well, let's let's let's get into a little bit So night beast directed by directed and written by Don dollar RIP died in 2006 born in 46 so you know he lived his life
He actually has done I looked him up on IMDB. He's very few titles and the the newest one I think was in like 2000 or 99 it was called like crawler or something like that looked very low-low budget Not even the sci-fi channel movie, you know, just super low-budget like like this one um, but He
Started out he was trying to basically run a magazine. He had like three or four different magazines that all had to do with film a one was called Cinemagic and And they would just he would publish them and he would ask filmmakers and and people that had to do anything with film to write little articles And it was just for people that were all nerdy about film, you know um
That's how he he got met a lot of people that ended up working on these films he did so before this movie In probably what this was 82 so I'm thinking this was probably like 79 Yeah, it was 79 I have it on the notes here They They started they tried to film it and it fell apart, but I'm actually gonna go before that Don dollars first movies called Alien Factor the Alien Factor Which um, maybe we can watch some time. I don't know So is this a remake of Alien Factor?
It sort of is sort of it's the same a lot of the same characters Yeah, and then a lot of the same people involved and they call it like this quasi Alien Factor remake, but it's not like officially The same movie so Really weird how I don't know the same right and and sheriff sender is in it and yeah, where wicker is in it The deputies in it um, yeah, there's a lot of the same characters, but to my understanding it's not like a Obviously not shot for shot, but not like an exact remake of it um
Which is weird it's almost like Don one to make another movie and just was I don't know too lazy to rewrite another movie I don't know yeah, but there was a movie in between so they had done the Alien Factor Um, then Night Beast the idea for it came around actually what it was David Getty or Dave Getty He was an actor in Alien Factor He was all gun hoe about directing and he talked to Don dollars like hey, I really want to direct like
Let's do this again, but you write and produce and I'll direct and so he said all right I got this idea called night beast and you can direct that and so they they went into production in 79 But after about three weeks The guy was just being Dave Getty was being too meticulous
They weren't getting shots That one particular point they spent 10 hours Are they spent a bunch of time rigging up a car for to get some shots inside this car And it was like a 10 hour day they didn't get one second of footage and the whole cast and crew was just done with this guy Yeah, and so I guess the whole Cast and crew showed up on Don dollars doorstep one night And just saying hey there he leaves or or we leave and so
Don dollar talked about it. It's sort of a funny thing The Dave Getty who is directing at the time then called him Or sorry he don't dollar call Dave Getty to sort of fire him, but before he even got to it Dave Getty was like I hate to do this to you, but I got to leave the project
I probably spot coming you know Yeah I was my big win with Sinitor I was like first feature or people gonna just like fucking walk off my side I was scared you know No it was it was Under schedule which is the most important thing you'll find when working with crew people you know yeah, so
But no so he The whole thing sort of fell apart they just just died right then and there Um, but then Don dollar went on shortly after to make a movie called fiend Which I've I've never seen either but he made that with like two four people or something like that it was him It was um Richard the DP who also plays the deputy in this he was he was the DP for fiend I can't read Richard's last name off hand at the moment, but he was he played the deputy in night beast who dies pretty early on
And then but he's also the DP for night piece the center night beast the cinematographer, but He was an actor and alien factor Don dollar had seen some of his super eight shorts and wanted him to come Um be the cinematographer on fiend and so fiend was shot in like Don dollars house and around his neighborhood
No location was more than three miles away. I think it was basically two locations Uh a couple actors a His son Don dollar son did sound like they taught him how to pull the mic and run the sound equipment and then this DP uh Did Richard did the Obvious cinematography so They busted that out
And then they went back to night beast basically Don dollar was like alright. Let's let's pull this thing back out And let's try and make it work and so there's actually a couple shots in night beast that are from The first effort back in 1979. There's like two or three transitions That you wouldn't know it's just a quick little shots exterior shots Uh, but then there is one at the end where it doesn't really fit at all and when
When Don dollar mentioned it was from the first one. I'm like yeah, this doesn't fit you'll notice at the end There's a little bit of a gun battle at the end with the night beast and It's when they're trying to hook up the lines and the guys holding the wires and oh yeah, there's like a gun battle
And there's this random fucking like shaggy dude Shooting guns at oh, yeah, yeah, it's like where did he come from like he's some shaggy dude is like he keeps cutting to him Clips of him shooting guns, you know, yeah
And that was from the original shooting like that guy wasn't even there. They just hit that footage from the There were a lot of reused shots in this movie like I think to pad the runtime some of the gun fights were really drawn out And it was just the same shot over and over a close-up of the aliens gun Well, what happened was they shot the film It came out to like 70 minutes and don't like this is not long enough and so
They had finished shooting. I believe like right before winter And then they went back spring of the next year and did some pickup shots to pad some things and the things that they did pad was Offhand it was so they have I'm like remembering all this stuff, but I'm probably gonna hit it in the notes here too at some point, but they had
The kids in the back of the car and that guy is driving him. Yeah, sort of towards the beginning those are actually don dollars kids That are in the back and then uncle Dave is the guy driving and he was I have it written down here somewhere, but he was part of the crew and That was bad for me. I have an uncle Dave fellas said You know, oh Dave here it is Dave the pyrotechnics guy is the driver nice
So he was the pyrotechnics guy. I did like that the kids got nuked that was yeah I'm like all right movie you're a pre-hard core Yeah, don dollars like that's I get the most flat for that for killing my own kids in the movie and But so that they extended that sequence
That was one of them for the day extended and then the whole That like the kids running away it goes into that dude making out with that girl in the house Yeah, and then he gets up and comes out he has the gun and it's very drawn out There's like close-ups of him and the girl screaming through the screen and he gets his chest sort of ripped apart That was all added in later in the spring And you'll notice when the kids they watch that they show the kids watching that
From the time they're in the car to when the kids are watching that One of them is like grown five inches And it looks way older and his voice has changed and the other kid has like way longer hair Because they went back in the spring and the kids were six months older
Oh my god, I want to have puberty Yeah, exactly I guess what they had I guess what happened to it like it chapter two or something as well They had to do a bunch of weird CGI reshoots because the kids had grown Yeah, like a half or something They had a problem on on rust some of our friends are producers on on rust and they had that line I thought the problem on rust was that Alec Baldwin shot and killed that secondary that's like a you know
No, yeah, no, that that was just a delay but then during the delay the kid actor hit puberty and now they need a recast and we should all I mean I don't know what you're gonna do with that. You know, it's funny. That's like a nationally largely known incident and Carmel and I are like friends with the with one of the lead producers on it and then I know
The armor that was on it and she literally handed me guns for the movie. I was in in murder y'all so city It's just I don't really I don't talk it's almost like how like Baldwin intentionally killed that woman No, stop and I did again. You're gonna get this episode deleted off YouTube I just got another one to lead off you do yesterday I know from like years ago it was
All the one doesn't have any pull on YouTube. No that they'll they'll So we've had two we've had two episodes now one deleted for misleading medical information Carmelos claims not mine And then I just got another one pulled yesterday for um Like supporting conspiracy theories and it was really we we interviewed Uh a small-time filmmaker years ago about a not me about a small film called a dreama chrome
And oh yeah, and that got involved in that one. We got banned. Yeah, what is dude is so far no so far rob and all the shit I've said Now you are they're gonna say that we're misleading people with you with your claims I also did a film with Alice Baldwin when I'm out of the Alec Baldwin shot and murdered someone. It's a fact but it was it was Anyways and the armor the armor I am happy that they actually did I was just trying to say that
I heard down I guess I just trying to say we're friends of the producer. I know the armor Then I did a film with Alex Baldwin right after that and uh like none of it has ever really clicked on my head that like we're so close to that tragedy Yeah, I think I think I All right now been held up because of like rust for one reason or another so for us it getting out of litigation is like
Was like a godsend and you know, I have people after the what do you care so much about rust? I'm like you have no idea How much they didn't appear so much daily life. It's crazy. It's just nuts. It's not yeah It's it's wild but anyways uh almost as like Carmella was involved in it sometimes Uh by the way you guys should you guys should go back
I'd mentioned that episode about a dream of chrome. It's like it. It's a pretty cool movie super low budget When back when we used to interview people more often and small-time filmmakers, but they hired uh Uh What's his name at his worst they hired um the dude from saving private Ryan um
Right. Oh, uh, uh Tom Sizemore Yeah, oh Tom Sizemore like at his bottom of the barrel time for like five grand for days worth of work And the stories this dude had to tell about Sizemore being on set and trying to change in one of those like pop up Shit camping changing rooms and like all this stuff and it was pretty hilarious
Tom Sizemore is still at the bottom. I don't think you can find it on iTunes. I guess you two pull it off Uh, yeah, you two pull that you can find a documentary about a dream of chrome right because I said no It was like it was an actual movie they made called a dream of chrome and it was It was a fiction there. It was a fiction movie. I don't know. So I don't know why we got I don't know
Yeah, you two doesn't know the difference. All right. Do we go about this turd yet? Are we oh, you know what? We've yet Let's hear it. I was about to skip that. So please please Yeah, of course. So in uh in night beast one of the goombas from the super Mario Brothers live action movie crash lands in a small town There are there are people in this town But you wouldn't know it because he just kills that fucking everybody like the first
10 minutes of the movie. I thought oh these are the characters and he just killed them These are just killed them too. They don't even get names the kids uncle Dave's the only guy who gets a name this couple that's making out I mean just everyone he meets he just fucking nerfs every counter I was like is this the whole movie because it's really good. It was just 90 minutes of him just offing everybody he meets
But there's like a whole thing. There's a sheriff and he puts a little posse together and then there's this this local tough guy Dr. Goll who's You know beaten his girlfriend and there's a subplot about that for reasons And then the mayor won't leave town because jaws and and he won't evacuate everybody so so they have to force him to evacuate Then I fell asleep for a little bit during which time I understand there to have been a sex scene. I did go back and watch it So great It was
It was terrific. It was just this like shot after shot of a man from like the nipples up And then it was a girl from the same shot and then he looked at her and then she looked at him
It was very intimate. It was just the weirdest thing And then I I guess while they were asleep while I was asleep We learned that the creature is allergic to electricity bullets apparently not no But no one ever actually hits this thing with a bullet that I In fact, there's a point where they go out of the way to get a marksman To shoot the creature's gun and I'm like you had a perfect shot at the gun in his hand. Yeah Why not put one in his eye
But anyways, they ever tried the bullets. I would have been a fan of plan bullet But in any case they tried plan electricity and Drago was on like a killing spray for also for reasons and They shoot him and then they wire up a trap for the creature and then One of the characters has to sacrifice himself holding the creature in the wires. Yes, I guess the end The end. Oh, that's uh that's night beast
And there aren't really numbers. I we both we read somewhere that they made this for $14,000. I believe it You know and yeah, I don't know If it was never released anywhere aside. So actually I do know it did have a VHS run on its own for a while Uh, but then in the early 90s, Troma purchased the rights and that's when you get Lloyd coffins and amin it
So I only say that Rob because he had no say over the 80-Bitty-Titty committee because But he could have been back for research just like Roger Korman did and Creatures from beneath True enough or he fired the fire's director and said no We women must be assaulted in the men Human rights
So yeah, Troma purchased the rights. They've had it since the early 90s Uh, this vinegar syndrome Blue Ray release that I have I think came out in early 2000s So it had sad sad a little bit of a uh, you know a re emergence especially now that it's on shutter So they're probably seeing some funds from it, you know all these people were very surprised to be interviewed again about it The decades later
Uh, as they did interview so the big the big deal about this movie is that JJ Abrams did some of the supplemental music and then he did do all of the music for the love scene Uh, and this was I did enjoy the music in the score in this movie there were
There's very uh, there was some cool stuff. There was very John Carpenter ask which usually you only get from John Carpenter Um, but I actually did actually but I want to be clear He did a lot of supplemental so not the main themes and then did The the love scene and he was 15 16 years old at the time and they did get him for an interview actually But his interview looked older like maybe they did it
When Troma bought in the 90s or something like that. Yeah And he recalled Writing a couple articles for Don dollar for his magazine that actually never published those articles didn't Um, and then being a 15 year old kid that Don dollar was sending
You know, they were they were going back and forth over the phone about music cues he needed and it back then He was like timing them with his watch and seeing how long these cues needed to be and things were a lot different and then when it did finally hit video shelves
Uh, JJ Abrams talked about living in New York and having his his grandpa Drive him to the video store and he asked if he could actually buy their copy that he had because he his name was in the credits And they were like sure kid they let him buy it and And so It's cool. He still remembers and talks about it. Uh, if you guys don't know JJ Abrams Not known for music at all now. He's just a producer. He's produced a ton of big things and probably most famously for lost for the series lost
Uh, but also has just produced a laundry list of large films since then and everything and series television series. So Um, so yeah, it's it's cool that he has a hand in there. Uh, probably the only one that really did much after this Yeah, he's our he's our James Cameron and galaxy of terror. That's the yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Uh, so obviously the opening miniatures and cutouts no real Secret there Like I both loved and hated it like part of me was like well
It's how you film a spaceship in 1982 with no budget. Yes, but part of me was like I mean there are tricks to make that look more realistic, you know, I mean the miniatures and aliens and then Over awesome, you know, that's true. No, I want to bring the board. These were cardboard cutouts I know actually Carmella and I have talked a couple times about and you have what you've found a couple guys, right?
Or maybe and and I think and and it's like expensive in one sense, but compared to like Building sets and like special effects and things very not and I just think if your camera technique is on And you've read it correctly and you're in you've got the rear projection kind of style you I think you can sell it I think it works great Some some of the best effects in movie history were were miniatures that they would do and well I mean, it's you see posts about it now that you know the
Of course the older alien movies a star wars chock full of it Conan is the famous one. I always see with the castle on the hill Yeah And the thing that comes that's another lost a lost art Because it's like star wars is a great example because um the only that separated star wars from every other like Load a mid-budget sci-fi movie of that era is it then like it was done well So then it hit and it hit big
But there's all those shots inside the dust are and things that I just took for granted were like wow What a big budget movie and they were just paintings and the stormtroopers are just paintings and yeah It's just done well and shot well So you know night beast was kind of phone that in um, but but it can be done Yeah, I also famously well, maybe not famously, but interestingly The exterior castle and the army of darkness. I think was a miniature too in the beginning
I'm sorry. Yeah, uh might not been it was either the beginning of army darkness or the end of evil dead too the castle You see in the backer and it might have been the end of evil dead too actually You know how they're a little bit different like the end of the lead to in the beginning of army of darkness Yeah, oh, there reminds me something to tell you guys about that our audience me find me get a kick out of I can share it in the show notes or something, but I found this dude
Who may he sells like custom cuts of movies on like Instagram or on Facebook or whatever and he did something I've always wanted to do and just don't have the time to do He cut evil dead evil dead to an army of darkness into one movie Oh, oh cut out the inconsistencies and the recaps and things and stitch them together into one continuous cut And it's like a five hour epic evil dead movie. Oh next time night your house rob There we go five hours. Yeah
We're gonna move tonight. It's gonna be by the end of that five hours Rob Indy will be cuddling up to me He was really close. He was getting really close. He came close Rob's dog is a little shy. He came close He's a shout out to
Mod media Insta that's the guy you gotta go see. Okay, mod media. Okay Um, so yeah, obviously manager cutouts um everything in this movie honestly was uh, well okay, obviously I don't I struggled to call it CGI because it really isn't so they have these cutouts And everything for the opening obviously the spaceship that goes crashing into the ground that was like A foot and a half a bit long and you know inches tall the crashing of the ground then they had this um
The thing you see explode when you see this space like an explode in the forest that was a larger thing made out of cardboard And paper That they then rigged with explosives explode in um, but then all the laser shoots and people disintegrating Is is really done on the film itself, you know, they have to go in and they have to do something to the film on these big flatbed things they work on and
So it's not even through a computer that they do it. It's it's sort of nuts I don't even know I didn't begin to know how they do it But it was very you know old school the other thing I thought was interesting Because of back then the technology the sound they were talking about Don dolor was talking about the sound during that huge laser battle toward the beginning Being very very tough and taking weeks to to edit because Basically, so these days if you look at a
And you know a potter has sent us over like screenshots and files of films we've worked on if you look at a the sound for movie It'll be a project inside of a sound editing software and they'll just be
tons of tracks. I mean maybe even up to a hundred or something like that, you know or more I'm not even really I don't really know that but I've seen where there's tons of tracks Layered and layered and layered and back then at least at the budget level they were working at they really had to narrow it down to one or two tracks And so Geez you they had to have the laser sounds they had to have the yelling and they couldn't have too much going on at once
Because it's literally comes down to like two tracks that they can have going And so they would mix it down From all these sounds and then they would get it as as sort of Downed as little tracks as possible before they sent it over to the official sound editing people who then consolidated it even further to one or two tracks
And it was just it was nuts. So Yeah, you can do a lot more these days With with so much little money, but yeah So yeah speaking of those characters that all we're getting killed off these opening campers are just dons neighbors neighbors and friends are the campers
Um, yeah, I tell you do it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the guy in the plot. I think who has the first lion his name is Jerry. That's don's neighbor Uh fun fact Jerry's brother John Sherholz was the GM of the Atlanta Braves Nice, you know random neighborhood fact that you know It's probably nice. I guess he lived in a nice neighborhood then yeah, I must have I don't know. It's his brother Yeah, his brother's brother's brother's probably helping him out. Yeah, he's probably helping him out
Uh again, he's a doctor your brother. Yeah Again, they had this tyrophome paper. That's that's the other material. I left out styrofoam cardboard paper spaceship They rigged with explosives. I thought it looked great. Yeah. Yeah. Oh, it was awesome It was retro Dude like as soon as it rolled and I saw that I'm like, huh, this is This is my kind of thing. This is it. This is for me. It's on shutter. It's free. We're starting off like this This is gonna be great
And then the explosion would just sparklers and shit. I was like this is awesome So happy right now Well, they also used you know the deputy pulls up. This is the DP Richard Playing the deputy he pulls up and he's like did you see that? Did you see that sheriff and sheriff's like Oh, what is that And then they look off in the distance and they it's you can sort of see it like supposedly behind the trees and the glare of the crash right and
That also was just miniature cutouts of trees with like a sparkler behind them or something It it looks it looked really but it looked really bad and that feeling that overshadowed the bad acting in this I was Ingenuity at its finest Ha ha ha Only sells snakes and sparklers The female deputy head of the itty bitty titty committee is Don's ants hairdresser. They just she's not an actress. They just were like she looked a little old and haggard
You want to be in this movie and then they got her to do a fucking nude scene. So Well his answer hairdresser. I think is as has seen a lot she probably has She's been time road hard put away wet, you know She's got that haircut that she has she's got the haircut of a hairdresser. It's a little ahead of its time You know this is early 80s. She had like a late 80s haircut. She did have like two pack a day two pack a day. Have it
Yeah, yeah, they were like you will you get naked? She's like fuck yeah She probably still parties with Tom size more. She's like she's like wait on camera. She's like look at she's like for a six pack of bush I'll do it. Yeah Maddie light yeah Uh A lot of the woods shots are in Don's backyard. So I knew I was fucking knew it. I was watching this and I'm like Night time shots are expensive. Yeah, he shots are all the same middle shot. There's no wide shots
This is someone's backyard. Yeah. Yep. Yep. Well funny enough The mayor's house is Don's house the pool he had He had put in like just before that And then around the mayor's house you can see there's woods and then that was all the night time Most I should say most of the night time wood stuff
Mm-hmm Rob do I have to mute you really? No you ragans in here bothering me. I'm not bothering you. All right. He's muted Anyways So yeah night stuff, but they're they weren't all there there was they got run of
They got to use what was it called I have it written down here or Oregon Ridge Park and can take a is a Uh is like a not national, but just some kind of some park there nearby and they got after hours access to it And it had like a pavilion and a lot of open space and that house that they Uh I think the house the loves you this is supposedly her house is also in there too
Uh, and then that's where the rangers office was too. So they got to use this Oregon Ridge Park and a lot of the out exterior scenes were in there as well But a lot of them mostly the night ones were in dawn's backyard exactly so I mean the park looks the park looks like they just walked in. They just broken. Yeah, no, it's no permits I even was like this the pavilion and everything. I'm like that's just
Well, it's fun. I'm not talking it. There were no permits. Yeah, it's funny. Don's backyard has been used It says in most of his movies so alien factor. I think fiend. I mean, it's just you know He's used his backyard a lot. So But yeah, so the beast was played by two different people
Dennis McGeein who was a stuntman and then Christopher Gummer who's an actor. They switched off You know McGeein doing a lot of the stunt types McGeein actually did the motor the dirt bike riding like all the fancy dirt bike riding Oh, yeah When he's trying to get back to them real fast and then he also did the motorcycle riding of drago coming down like the dirt road just to be safe and things like that So this McGeein guy was sort of their residence stunt guy um
Yeah, and then I already mentioned it don's kids that there are the kids in the car um And then also the beast coming through at night like the woods That was again his backyard and just Just someone on a dolly with their hand in the head using it as a puppet, you know just moving its mouth
So yeah, it was yeah, yeah, that's good um Dawn so whether we talked already a little bit about how the kids got older they come upon that house where the guys making out with the girl and he comes out and checks out the noises um That's that's dawn's brother Glenn who is the make out guy
Uh, and then the girl is another hairdresser they knew There's definitely a name yeah again no no actors I sort of you know what though as I found this all out I was sort of like These guys just have like a really good time they just got their hands over Yeah, it's over fantastic. They just made a fucking movie, you know
That's true good for them. Yeah, yeah, you know uh, uh, uh, so yeah, but so that night was that whole sequence was shot After the fact this was padding right this was the spring after they had finished in the fall um, and so Glenn the makeup
Glenn and the makeup guy I should say so Glenn was the brother. He's the make he's the make out guy Then the makeup guy they had there that night doing makeup the two of Glenn and that guy had a band together They did like spaghetti western type music uh, and they had just recorded Right before they came to film that scene and they were all amped up and that was just one of the memories that Don had and so That that was sort of funny
These guys were like in a band together. Oh, yeah, let's go shoot this movie scene um, and yeah And it's very limited crew that night too with the whole chest tearing out and and effects on all there's like four of them there He said so that scene was hilarious because it looked like he was just like fondling that guys Mm-hmm His his claws are deceivingly sharp, I guess you know that's all he was giving him a hand job and it was Just hair right through
Knock that black eyes arm off like it was nothing. I know Uh One thing you may have noticed is Uh, few of the scenes here out especially during the day they use this weird like Fog filter for one day and it gives it this foggy glare or other worldly look to Some of the daytime scenes that are scattered throughout the movie Uh, those were all shot on like one or two days where they just use this fog filter the whole time
Our reasons unknown they just don't look cool. I guess and then immediately regretted it when they saw the dailies like the next week Oh, we're out and we're like well, it's too late now. We can't go re-shoot all that I enjoyed I enjoyed the gratuitous fog. Yeah, you should check the dailies, you know
Once a day. Yeah, I think back then it took good Well, maybe not for the film but for this lower budget stuff it probably took uh, you know five day the next week is when they got them I think so It's funny you mentioned the sharpshooter because they have the old farmer come in who's sort of the sharpshooter Mm-hmm during that daytime short laser battle. Yeah, his son is a little cameo, isn't it? Yeah, so Don dollar plays his son The sharpshooter son and dies in it. Oh
He didn't mean to have the cameo. I guess the guy that was supposed to do it did just straight up didn't show up that day and And and he was the only quote-unquote crew member that hadn't stepped on in front of the camera so far So he had to be him huh had to be him Yes, I had to be fine. I mean it's a sign of a great a great director. Oh great Um, the mayor let's talk about now from jaws of course, Bert Yeah, Bert, but someone's gonna be named Bert. He's so good. The mayor with mayor was great
Obviously dealing with you. Oh, you said your favorite characters. They were terrific well the mayor is is Count Gore de vol a television horror host from 1973 to 1987 Oh, that's cool In like that local area the Baltimore area channel 20 was a late-night horror so he was sort of a little bit of a
celebrity that was in this movie at the time I Hear at the time of the commentary at least or the interviews maybe the in the 90s He still had an internet presence with count Gore de vol That's uh Gore is in you know g-o-r-e than d-e than v-o-l if you want to look him up count Gore de vol Um, man, yeah, man to get you out of her inner view I just a lot he might be dead now. I don't know. I mean Could be
He wasn't he wasn't on that rough set was he? No, I don't think so nice call back There's there's probably still hope for him yet The uh doctors office used in the movie is actually the lady playing the doctor and fritz
It's her chiropractice office. He was like oh you guys are doing a movie you can use my office come on in a nice Yeah, this was back when You just couldn't get away with a lot of this shit today if it was like a sag production or or whatever You know because I'm sure these people pride and get paid the most and they were just
And using whatever and plucking people out of the woodwork to be in this scene. Oh just jump on camera and be in this You know, he's still alive and kicking really Count Gore de vol yeah, he still is he's hanging rubber chickens No shit is there a website? That's his Instagram. Okay, and his website is uh Count gorg.com Wow All right, ooh somebody needs help on this website though. I mean, this is like a Myspace page It's probably his like
His his grand kid that's doing it. That isn't that he's got a merch. I don't know man. I have to get a shirt We're gonna we're going to supply him with uh All these fans and purchases now Right on the bill you You know what I'm like you know these shirts are not bad. I'm just gonna come out and say it really this is pretty good That's pretty fun Rob's gonna buy a bunch tonight Oh, I can get an autograph photo. This guy's gonna be like so how did you uh find me?
Twenty night beast is it like what? 25 dollars. I really autograph photo. Okay Tell me you got to mention night beast on it Let's see here. Yeah, I need some help with this website though This is pretty This is pretty So monica monica if you remember she was um drago's the one that he choked out first and
Was uh what's his name's girl friend. I don't remember the the other guy um I think she was she was like someone's one of their friends wives and they the way don't put it was They knew she'd be okay with getting naked on camera so I asked her to come do it
Yeah, I mean that's one way to cast your movie You're what you're what you're what you're what you're what's kind of a horror right yeah, she'll come on Did you guys notice that right yeah, you guys noticed that she was like half smiling the whole time
That she was she was she was she had she had half a speaking line. Yeah Yeah, it was like you're out of here and that was it and I was like wow you uh But she literally had like she's trying not to laugh like the whole time while she was getting raped and choked It was bad
Yeah, and then uh one little flub is that She had her shirt she put on that shirt and she tied it And then about two clips later she's walking through the living room and the shirts all the way buttoned up all the sudden So that was a little bit of a Snafu there
You're right. Everyone means the movie for me. It took me a real thing. Yeah, yeah, I was yeah uh, oh another Spring add-on when they went back to pad the movie some more or the doctors hiding out in the basement when the creature comes down Hmm, which was very painful and awkward to watch him Split that wire while he's looking over at the beast and put it on the ground and slowly Don't start water That was hard to watch yeah, and of course that was like your friend's basement and and
You know he goes up the stairs and peeks at the door and sees the beast and that's really him peeking out of don dollars like bathroom in his house Then he goes back down and then they just tossed wood down the stairs to make it seem like the creature broke through the door Because they didn't couldn't afford to break a real door, you know It's not the worst idea Yeah, yeah, you know when he comes down he gets electrocuted by this tiniest puddle of water on the ground ever
They had a strobe light on the beast that was sort of a decent effect and then you know when it's the wide shot there It's like firecrackers or something at his feet um But then dawn did choreograph this epic fight scene all by himself between drago and Uh the other guy I forgot I can't remember
Jamie name Jamie is the guy fights. Yeah, okay Jamie's the sacrifices himself at the end of stage of everybody right yeah Yes, that is him they did an interview with him in like 2000 and he was like wow Yeah, I did night these 40 years ago Yeah, so he was actually they found him because What was it so he was getting into acting and had done some community theater stuff and He was friends with the guy that played drago
And I forgot that actor's name, but he was friends with him. They were Just hobnob and at a event or uh, I think they said oddly enough amends swim club I don't even know what that what that is back in the 80s. We're apparently guys used to get together and just swim uh, but anyways He was like oh tell your butt you guys are doing a movie well if you need an extra or anything then let me know and And that guy was like oh I'll talk to Don and I'll let you know and
Sure enough. They were like oh, yeah show up on this day You can be in the movie and he thought he was showing up to just be an extra running around in the background and they hand in a script Like here's all your lines and he's like what the fuck He honestly was one of the better actors in a movie. Yeah, he was and he I think
He mentioned that even though he wasn't awesome. He was one of the better ones. He's like, you know I was maybe one of the only ones that had a little bit of formal training Oh, yeah So But that's how he got involved in it Oh, but yeah that whole fight scene Don choreographed and then There's some funky like lighting and camera shifts in the middle of it and I think I they had some excuse for it, but I don't remember what it was, but it was like
There's a noticeable time where a couple sequences where it shifts from this sort of darker grain year looking film look to this bright almost like I thought they changed clothes but they didn't it's crazy Um So here the funniest thing I've held it in about the love scene
Uh don actually didn't want to do the love scene. It wasn't really in the script like it was hinted at they thought about it Uh, but Tom who played the sheriff had a little bit of money in the food in the film And he was like he's like no no like we got to do the love scene we got Yeah
You're the one of that hairdresser. Oh, yeah, and don was like well She's not even an actress like she just my answer address her if you you go talk to her then about doing this love scene and I guess Tom went and talked her she's like yeah, let's do it Oh, it was uh, it was an awkward scene. I'll tell you that They just stopped in the middle of all of everything to just go to her house
So Don was describing it. It was actually sort of hilarious. He's talking about it. He's like So then we had to like we had to like make him fall and cut his leg and then she had to be we had to think like oh I guess her house is nearby and then And she walks him to her house so that she can patch him up and it was still awkward to shit like she he sits down and she's like She's she's like starts taking his pants off for him and I mean oh She's like well, we gotta get this this cleaned up and
And then they do that and then then she just stands up and starts unbuttoning her shirt and he's like what you doing She's like I gotta have a shower. I'm all I'm all dirty now Got to have a shower man classic. That's how they get you girl. Yeah, I think you're gonna take a shower and then He comes back and it's like he's dosed for a second she comes back. She's like hey, he's like oh hey
Oh, you're back. He's like he's like you're sort of attractive. I've never I've never really noticed before Then they that's I mean that's how it happens then they just proceed to And like the shot it's two separate shots. He's holding her and they go down off camera And then it's just a shot of the same thing but from the other side and he's yeah like man This room like 12 feet tall the bed is is way down under the ground and he's really trying to get her down there
It's so funny. It's like well before that he's like can we help me get this shirt off and she's like yeah And then literally it's a shot of her it's a shot of her standing there like smiling like she's getting a portrait taken with no shirt on her He's sitting there and then it like goes to him. He's in the same shot. He's just saying pose Standing there like hammer cuts off blows belly. All 70s porn stand big old stash just like he's smiling for portrait
I think he goes back and forth like twice. It's shot at least. Yeah It's just so One of the funniest head to make sure they got the shot Yeah, this shows is like saggy butt from the back and they're kissing He just really wanted that so one of the funniest things about the sequence
Uh, first of all we already mentioned that JJ Abrams did the music and so it was probably heavily watching this and he was 15 years old Uh, the the more Wrong thing is that Don dollars 14 year old son was running sound for this whole sequence During the whole time while they're totally
Just know he had the biggest 14 year old puberty like out of place erection going I think hoping no one would notice terrified this is gonna get far from the rest of his life So for the one he ever saw was his 55 year old Yeah And don was even like I think we had to we ended up having to cut around a lot of like because you saw a lot of the private parts And then we had to cut around a lot of that and you still do when they shipped at one point you do see her bush in there
Yeah, they were straight up full nudity there was no Is he coordinator on the movie? No, there was no cock sock. You know that there's no There's nothing. There's nothing he did talk about Funny enough. I believe don't quote me believe it was like another hairdresser Like her friend that That was the official It wasn't into see coordinator because that's like a new thing But it was like the other woman in the room to make her feel comfortable
You know what I mean? There you go Um I don't know What is it about hairdressers why are hair Just like classic people that are like they're just looking for money, you know, I just I never I've never Met a hairdresser been like oh, you know what she would probably let us film her naked. I'm just like That's just what she does. She's a hairdresser, you know, it's true I mean if they were like yeah, there was a local like strip club and they went down there and there were a bunch of girls there
Yeah, yeah, well, get on camera. Well, that's that's why Kaufman is smart right because he gets porn stars to do all the shit and then they are in doubt and they have no qualms about it The acting still horrible, but that's why he's wearing our hairdressers, but he knew
Or he knew he knew yeah, yeah, he knew he's like if the acting is gonna blow I might as well get a mattress that'll Yeah, and you know what the more I think about poultry guys The the lead guy in that has to be like I mean barely 18 he might be 17 Yeah, I mean You just have to think like What he was living the dream he thanks me thanks Lloyd Kaufman every day This guy actually did a pretty good job for what he was put through as like a 17 18 probable 17 18
Unless he's one of these guys. It's like 27 and it looks like he's 18 But you know what I mean it was just it was sort of nuts that when you think about it Um, anyways, so then this movie obviously ends up Back of this pavilion. They're using as the power plant because they've Now have to figure out they should electrocute the fucking thing Um, and they got to get a hold of of this cell or whatever it is But they they pull out Don talks about getting a lot of flack about
The sheriff having so much trouble with this padlock on the door while the girls did on lookout Yeah, yeah, you just fucking it for like five minutes straight It's like a bad wrong time Yeah, and Don was like oh, I had somebody say like oh, you should just shot it with his gun
I'm like just fucking kick the door in it's just tiny padlock with With two screws in a in a mount, you know, yeah exactly coming right out Yeah, so he gets flack for that or he used to rest in peace, but um And then yeah, then funny enough Tom again, I don't have his last name off hand who played the sheriff um It doesn't seem like this kind of guy, but if you notice at the end when he's fudging around and there's a little bit of a medium shot on his hands
You can you can see there's almost looks like makeup on his knuckles like between you know between his two knuckles Where people often get tattoos and he had a tattoo across both his hands. It said love hate I You had makeup put on him because he was didn't want him shown in the movie. How pro I just I can't picture this how should judge him this is 1982 Okay, just gotta say Rob This guy was swimming swimming in hairdressers
Okay, I don't know. I just say that what he's walking with the actual hairdresser playing the deputy To her house knee deep in the equivalent of ladies on only fans with only five or six subscribers Okay, he was knee deep in I ruined it by not remembering oh diana her it's is oh boy boy was he ever Oh my god, he uh light Daniel Harris I do too. I mean you're
Yeah, I do too. Yeah, no, I'm just saying Rob the certain shot Obviously he that it's not very flattering when he's naked, but even right before that When they're walking to her house and I don't and maybe I didn't notice that but but he's walking through their walking through the woods
And he sort of has his gun drawn and he's hunting around And I don't know what it is about it, but at that very moment in that sequence He has the poorest posture and it's like the and it's the worst angle of his like body ever And so he just looks like this hunched over turtle standing up like
It's like it's like it's not good. It's like they got all their gun training or whatever on set by like watching like 1920s gangster movies like they're shooting the gun like from from their hip, you know, like you said they're hunched over Yeah Well, one of the most hilarious facts is that No joke like I thought this was a joke and then it was verified in the feature. It's also on the commentary No joke don dollar did all of the gun sound effects with his mouth into a microphone
Really? Like I mean they're actually they actually well wouldn't have guessed because actually yeah he had me like He had me too. I thought he sounded pretty good. Yeah, I actually you know what? My heck was off to him for that one that was pretty good. No joke though. Oh He's like yeah back then they didn't really have a a Liberarium sound you could you could go to and so we just made him up and
And he had various times shut the movie. I mean they talked about how loud The doll he was that they were using for any of these these sort of dolly type shots And so he was having to recreate a lot of things one off the top of my head was um
They're in the oh when they go back to the mayor's house to like tell him for the last time like get the fuck out of town It's the doctor that goes there right and um He sort of gets hit on by that The mayor's wife, you know, and she's all wasted and the mayor's like passed out
Actually I'm glad we touched on this because I have some Easter eggs about the scene that I would probably totally fucking forgot about um Anyways, the main point I go to is because there was a dolly shot of her walking down the hall to answer the door
And he was saying that the dolly was so fucking loud that he had to Go back put on like his wife's high heels and walk down a hallway to get the the folly sound for that, you know And he had to do that in a different time for some other footsteps too because this dolly was just so fucking loud um
Yeah, it was crazy but anyways about that scene um one of the oh on the commentary watched it had Don Dullard had that guy that played the doctor and I can't remember his name off hand but um He talked about In that scene the mayor's wife gives him that like little kiss, you know, and because she's all wasted and she's like Oh, yes, that was one of the famous favorite scenes of the movie was the come party with us and or sorry
I will have a good time together. Yeah, yeah, she's trying to like push the three something right? Yeah, yeah, so Danny and I would know all about that wouldn't we Danny? Of course We all know that birdie was more than enough man. Yes Count to count gourd of all is all up in that I have I have to him a message on Instagram you said him a message Yeah, uh imploring him to come onto the show for
That's he will too. Oh, I'm guarantee you he will he's been around for 50 years. Oh, man Yeah, he's probably got a lot of knowledge, you know late night TV horror host, you know, I mean he's been doing this like it for like over 50 years
This 50th anniversary. Well, so he was on the so the doctor sorry the doctor was on the commentary um And he talked about You know op-handedly how attracted that actress was And that she was trying to seduce him in that scene and he was he was sort of became this creepy old guy in the commentary He's like oh, yeah, I would I wouldn't mind meeting with up up with her these days
And I wonder what she's been up to and don dollars like oh, I think she's married now. He's like oh, it was just a thought just a thought Yeah But uh Another little easter egg is behind the mayor when he's passed out on the couch is a framed photo of Count gourd of all so great
Yeah, man a little little thing they snuck in there that was cool. I'm sure we'll be on this on our show shortly And another thing that was weird is that Don said that her lipstick in that scene was just way too bright red and like way too over the top I think garish is what he called it and
Somehow the color guy was able to tone it down just her lips. I don't know how that worked with the technology back in the day But tone down just her lips without affecting her skin tone and all that and he said it was amazing um So yeah gunshot. I think I messed at the end of my notes here. Oh I The guy sacrifices himself at the end to save everyone, you know, he's he has to hold the electric lines together
I felt bad for him. I did too. I thought they sort of resorted to that pretty quickly. I was like yeah He was pretty quick to die now now Jerry Jimmy or Jamie right Jamie. Yeah, so he you'll notice right after gets electrocuted it
He falls and it's a dummy. It's like if I can burnt up skeleton dummy with its eyes just wide and full They had some pretty decent little bulging eyes and some professional flex in this I will give them that and But the shirt on the dummy does not in any way match Jamie shirt as he was now we're just picking the movie apart at this point um
Another couple things I wanted to mention that aren't my notes. I just remembered from yeah because I just watched like all these extras on it was uh uh Obviously they had the the head like chop off scene that was memorable the very fake head
The head I guess was done by a guy out of state and they off of a picture or something like that So they didn't even have a plaster thing or anything like that and he did his head that way um But uh don dollar used to have showings of this movie Uh in his living room to
Friends uh it just sounded it sounded like more than the way he described it It sounded like more than just a couple buddies come over to watch It sounded like he had a couple organized viewings of the movie in his house, you know uh Almost like a premiere or things like that and he saved the head and at that point in the movie He was just tossed the head out into the crowd into the audience watching
As it happened. It was pretty good. So Yeah, yeah, but uh, I mean that's basically all I got on it and a don dollar More than I ever thought you could possibly write Shocked at the level of all these guys like what the fuck you want to talk to us about night? Be I love this episode was gonna be over 60 minutes ago I And now we're gonna follow up this episode with count gorda we might gourd of all count gourd of all and 50 years in the movies
I mean I say get him on I love it. I believe in one of you. So this I think this one's really a lesser watched movie I think a lot of people may or may not have seen it It's on shutter right now if you guys are looking for just uh I'm so bad. It's good and we'll keep you laughing movie It's brilliant. It'll hold a little place in your heart if you go watch it, you know 10 out of 10 Yeah, absolutely So check it out Uh, I can recommend it over alien Romulus and you haven't seen alien Romulus
Since we did what did you watch at the beginning of the episode? Yeah, but we didn't look it to explore What did I like to end this first of all if you want to do an alien Romulus episode I would do it because it was it was good and we did it for that piece of dog shit extra sister You know, I think I have too much attention. Yeah, so I would love to do alien Romulus
But since we did what did you watch? I'd like to end with a shameless plug because we have our next film coming out That's true October 4th named the demon is our found footage Possession horror film that's coming soon and the trailer is out now and You know if you're in Chicago and you want to go to the premiere hit us up because we're doing a premiere next month Yes September 19th if you happen to be in Chicago September 19
Yeah, let us know and we'll get you. We'll keep with an invite. We're gonna be at horror hound convention on the Fort 13th it goes the 13th to the 15th will be there on the 13th We're screening named the demon Well, we'll be out and about so if you guys are coming to the convention It's a huge horror convention, so I wouldn't be surprised if some people are going Oh, yeah, horror hound is a big one for the Midwest. Yeah, so I'm there. Let us know and we'll grab a drink or something
We've also got super con the yeah, what is that? That's the 27th I believe 27th super con of September And we're we're screening it over I think it's over. It doesn't film festivals now We're only showing up to like two of them. We were gonna maybe go to Toronto for the Toronto Indy Horror Fest Uh, that's screening it, but we We opted out of that one. Yeah, Toronto is a little it was just bad timing for us because Danny and scattered going to Mexico and stuff
But we're going to the festivals that are also having Q&A's and panels with us from the film. So yeah You know the rest of them are just other screening the film or or we're just jured like contests, but Yeah, we want some awards already too. So like it's getting a lot of buzz. So it's a pretty decent movie Usually you guys should like you know, and you know how you know how critical I am of our own
It's really hard on his own films. Yeah Yeah, this is this is um, I'm proud of how scary it is I genuinely think it's it's a frightening film I think it's very realistic and the coolest thing about it is that it's 90 minutes long and it's one continuous shot Yeah, and I think for a found footage to do it all in one shot really makes it you know Is a realism in film maker talk. It's obviously we didn't just
The film at all in one shot there are hidden behind the scenes episode. Don't give it all away now In fact, I'm going to push for a whole call classic horror show episode. We should we should know the comedy carry I mean we should know I want to be a blu-ray release I guess or something well
I think we should do a live episode too. We should we should watch it a lot once it hits streamers on October 4th We should just treat it like we do our normal live episodes where we all watch it and we sort of do a commentary and this time It'll actually be maybe a little more entertaining because instead of us just piping on opinions about people on screen. We can just tell you how we made it
So yeah, and if it is popular and you do like it. We are considering a Blu-ray release as well So that depends on you guys and if there's support for like a you know We'll probably do a Kickstarter or something to do it. So yeah, you guys get to let us know if you like it or not, but Very excited to do found footage. I love found footage. So yeah, we'll probably I mean
Well, I do well, we'll probably keep doing it. I don't know what'll be next, but I got a good I got another good script ready to go Robert you come in a Chicago for the premiere you got absolutely not What about that awesome true crime like coffee shop? I sure yeah, but see I've been watching the news and now Chicago's full of a bunch of You know anti-sionistic Dead end in Wednesday the DNC's gone
You should come awesome. I'll take you to the medieval torture museum too. You'll love it You go to fight bear rob we can go to the Traumatarian the country if you want the last we should ask last three times Danny got covid and no, I got covid once
That was during and it was during the fucking pandemic and I'm pretty sure I got covid in four that two weeks ago A week and a half ago and I mean you got a new kid and I don't really like kids You got to eat the new big except except except for Danny's kids as much better in my my kids Yeah, they've they like to talk to Rob a lot We talk all the time Elliott likes to interrupt and ask Rob questions. I had to tell Danny to shut up
Elliott's trying to tell me something. What about your legos? That's awesome. Elliott make sure to tell me that you know Out of everyone. I know Rob the most In when we were in Florida and then maybe marry the second Rob's mom But no Name the demon should be out on October 4th on like Amazon to be Uh, iTunes Apple our Google Play Anywhere you can VOD stream. Yeah, stream on demand. It might be I believe with our distributor Maybe free on Amazon Prime at first at first
Yeah, and not have to be rented so it might be included on prime at first. The reason I say October 4th probably mostly for sure is that um They submit it to the streamers and they Can't 100% tell us that it will make our premiere date, but they said they'd never had a problem for so it should be October 4th So, you know, so we're very very excited about it. I am very very proud of it Um, and and I'll say a lot more about it only do will you do an episode about it?
So I think one of the one of the September episodes of this show is gonna be about named the demon and You know whatever we can cover about it. So for sure. Maybe the next one. I don't know. I guess it depends if uh Gorda The Gord of all Gord of all gets back to us or not Rob did we watch anything else that notable that we missed uh, I'm trying to think we talked about tarot
We talked about our Katie and our Katie and it's just like mind blowingly odd Yeah, there's a lot of questions It stayed with me stay with me for a good watch the exercise Evil dead 2013 and rise 2013 is just I mean God I just never get so we were gonna watch the original To it. No, but I still like squirm with evil dead 20. I mean like just like
It's one of the scariest movies I've ever seen there. I mean, there's stuff into the genuinely disturbs me Uh, slicing the tongue in half is like well the funny part is like when the red movie and Danny were talking about that when the red band trailer came out We thought oh the tongues just gonna be the ultimate thing. No where fucking close
Not so much work. It was in it was in the trailer because it was the tammest thing. Yeah I can't even use my electric turkey driver anymore without no that is the worst I I've ever made like weird compulsion to like cut your own Just cut your arm. I'm holding it. It just shows it go right through all the every uh Just Well, yeah, the worst is either the machete across the thigh where you actually see the skin pull Oh, yeah, or when he slips and falls and he hits his lower back on the toilet
Oh, yeah, Rob. You have a old guy lower back I do with it. They shot it so bad. I'm like you know you know it knocked the wind out of him Not the real ex-boy, and if he's not the meal in his eye, it's hitting his back on the toilet And you know what I mean if he makes it through this he's gonna have chronic back problems Oh forever, but don't sleep on the boiling shower either. That's true The Rob said it couldn't happen couldn't happen. They have safeties built into those tankless water
That's an old shower. Yeah, but now magic magic override the safeties. There's no magic safety. That's true There was magic. There was magic. It could be like it could be hellfire burning that water up Yes As a as a burn victim I can tell you that look just that's true It uh look it's just it's the perfect move Yeah, we need to we need to maybe watch together one more one more in Chicago
And then I did uh oh I bought I mean I was texting Danny, but I did I did rewatch hostels Oh, yeah, you were texting me and I actually actually watch hostels like twice in 24 hours because I watched it When Savannah was asleep was staying up late and then the next day I was like you have to watch hostels. There is actually some of the best
subtle acting in that movie. Well, that's well. That's why it's all spent well mixed hostels so good What makes hostels so amazing and it's one of the reasons why I prefer I really like Kevin Costner's Westerns And and Clint Eastwoods of course, but They're they're quiet. Yeah, it's good quiet like I mean, I think and I think it takes a lot of balls as a good actor like Costner and and Eastwood and especially Christian bail it was we're I think it was a little different for Christian bail
He plays it quiet. He grunts. I mean, you know, there's so many lines in the movie where he's Internalizing everything and he's thinking and he just gives like a Like yeah, it's just oh it's been fosterly Fucking amazing in this scene the scene that in the beginning between
Christian bail and Rory Cochran who plays master sergeant Thomas Metz or whatever. I'm looking him upright. Oh yeah Where he's talking about how he's got the melancholy and he's really yeah I these are the acting in that between the two of them So much is just not my love to do is like just a scene for an audition or something That's just an awesome fucking scene and the In the set in the set design and the DP and the cinematography and the music and I mean
But that scene with Metz where they're in the rain and he just tells him like I feel nothing Like there's just something that movie is so incredible and of course Timothy Shalameg is butchered like within 15 minutes
He's doing it's a good movie. It's a good. It's got a great soundtrack. I listened to a lot when I'm working It's definitely like it's like a unique western because it's not a typical western and And I'm I I'm not gonna give anything away, but the final scene of that movie I cry I cry every time
I'm just checking it Because it's so well on the sound and the music cue at the end just get I I want to cry when I just listen to the music Q at in the soundtrack because it's so it's so good and like at the end Savannah is now it's been vested And that ending was like as suspenseful as the rest of the movie for something so simple And she's just like come on. What come on come on and then you know the music cues up and I'm just over there like It's so fucking good
So good. Carmelo. Have you not seen hostels? I'm not oh You gotta watch it. It's so good. I will. I've been been been foster in hostels. He's good It's good. It's kind of a lot of good acting. He's good and he's good and everything But again, it's been foster actually being quiet as well. Yeah, but been foster being quiet is even more insane Than like a hell or high water where he's just out of control like he's even more insane when he's quiet. That's so good. Yeah, so
All right, well, I think that wraps us up. I do want to say I don't think I told you this, Carmelo. I We're gonna be covering Zombie next Lucio full cheese zombie Finally, that's on that's on that's on jobob too. I may actually rewatch it. Okay. I'll have to watch it on jobob then I did oh yeah, yeah, so we'll be doing that season five. It's last season. He did okay He did like a whole Italian horror thing, but yeah, Zombie I haven't seen it since he did the episode
Okay, well awesome. That'll be If you're listening to this right when it comes out. We're like a daylight. Sorry about that. We usually release them Wednesday midnight It's Thursday night So in a couple weeks we'll we'll be back on track with zombie and you know, well announced the next ones after that
But uh join us for that. So thank you guys for listening. We'll catch you on the next one Later don't you blame the movies movies don't create psychos movies make psychos more creative Oh yes, there will be blood