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It's really got all the 80s movie points. It's hitting nostalgia. It's a good fun time. There's some gore. There's some cool effects. I thought it was a good time. I did too. I haven't been to piggyback up that. Did it out to everything you said. Just had that feel. Had some gore. Had some nudity. Had some boobies. Had some old snacks and things. You see the old steps. The old Pepsi cup. I just Tom Ackens just makes it that much better. He was so good in this. There was some questionable acting.
But we'll move forward to that. Rob, what do you think? I didn't care for it. I knew that was going to come. I just told the acting was some par. Yeah, the acting was actually thought you would maybe like this one, Rob. It's a little more of that B movie vibe. It's a complete rip off of Slither. Slither from James Gunn. Oh my, just to this movie. Oh my. Slither happened after this. Slither happened way after this. Time is a flat circle.
So, Slither, you know, this movie just completely just plagiarized Slither in my opinion. I do like Nathan Fillian a lot. So Slither. Wasn't enough gore. Besides, I think Tom Ackens is the only reason why people talk about this movie because he's the only safe and grace in it. So I would say that this lively who played Chris was a little. Yeah. I would say the handicap kid was did a very good job acting. Steve Oh, yeah, he was great. And Tom Ackens, it was, it was very questionable.
Steve Marshall, I suppose. It was, it was, it was pretty good. I didn't, I didn't, I didn't, I'm not, my tastes have matured. I've moved on to poultry guys. Yes. They've matured. The poultry guys. Yes. And anthropophagus and other things like that. I don't know, just really, it didn't hold my attention very well. But I guess I said it was okay. Maybe he just better than some.
I've heard of it, but I'm trying it like, I don't know, I just can't, like I think Frank Knight did it the best with the kind of campy fun stuff. I don't know, this one just didn't really, this, this does have a recognizable video store cover to it, you know, some of the artwork. Carmella, what do you think? I loved it. I thought it was fantastic.
I, I thought I was going to come here today and agree with Rob on, on a great, it's, like it's cheesy, but it's not so cheesy that it's, it's bad, it's fun and nostalgic. And it's like, it is the essence of a cult classic horror movie in my mind, like quite literally, we'll get into the numbers in a second, but it, it, bomb, it came back and became a hit. It's, I just, I thought it was great.
I mean, it's, it's, it's got just enough cheapness and camp to keep it from being like, a mainstream like, oh, it's like not like good in a mainstream way. It's, it's good in like a, it's Saturday night and I've ordered pizza and it's 11 p.m. Oh, for sure. And I'm, I'm kicking back to watch, you know, a, a video I found at the store. I found this cassette tape and it looks great and the box is, is cool. That's what this feels like. That's the exact definition that I'm thinking of right now, too.
Yes. For sure. It's got to be. Then put you in the mood, like, don't you hear that and say like, yeah, I want to, I want to stay up late, say it at night and eat pizza. And watch the night and watch the night at the creeps. I would not to get sentimental, but while watching, I was like, this is a good movie for all of us to be in the same room, like together watching. I'm going to have to get to that. Drinking, drinking, drinking, drinking, drinking.
Because there's some laugh out loud moments, some major laugh out loud, ridiculous moments. I'm surprised I've never seen it before. This is the first time. Me too, actually. Yeah. Yeah. So I always confuse the title with like, night of the demons or night of the comments. Or there's a lot of the night. Creepshow. Night of the night. And I just didn't, I don't know, I just didn't realize they were all seven. It's like the most meamed. Yeah, Matt Kins movie.
Yeah. So it's about to be when our, our, now our 30 million new Russian Russian. Yeah. All of you on board. Yes. What's this movie about Carmelo? Oh, I'm so glad you asked. In real. Really? Thrilled me, Carmelo. Thrilled me. Thrilled me. In the, in the 1950s, a rogue alien should say experimental canister down to earth and releases these, these slugs into into a, into a small town.
While quite by coincidence, an ax murderer has escaped from a, and say a silent and has, has murdered a young police officer's ex girlfriend. And last forward, 30 years or so into the 1980s, the distant future, where, or a few young college students on the prowl for, you know, a good education with the ladies, they stumble upon these slugs. They accidentally release them from pre-agent storage where they've possessed a corpse.
And these slugs go around killing and possessing dead bodies, animating them as corpses. And then when they're destroyed, slugs, more slugs, birth out of their heads. They've incubated and they continue to spread. Now that cop has grown up to be none other than Tom Atkins. And only, only Tom Atkins and, and our, our fresh-faced star, Christopher Merrill, played by Jason Lively, can stop the alien slug invasion from ruining the spring formal for our young Greek college students.
In the end, wrote, Atkins has to confront the ax murderer who's become an ax murderer in zombie. He has to blow up a house with all the slugs in it. And you know, the movie ends with the aliens desperately trying to find the few remaining slugs who have stumbled upon a cemetery, setting up what would have been a terrific sequel that never happened. Yeah, that's too bad. I was just researching to see if there was one I couldn't find it.
Well, tell, one of the numbers, these numbers, it did not, it did not do well. It did not do well. Just what Crabble was saying, it bombed, which released date, 1986, August 22nd. I think it was 5 million. And the gross is only $592,000. So that's interesting. Gosh, this is better than that. Well, yeah, but you know why it bombed so bad. Why? So I, I looked this up because I was so curious. The weekend this came out in the theaters at the same time was Top Gun. Okay. The fly.
Friday the 13th part six. This is just off the top of my head. Yeah. Or is it least one other horror movie? I'm going to, I'm going to look up what it was because I forgotten. But this was up against like a horror, like ultimate horror slate for the weekend and Top Gun. Yeah. Yeah. And really just, I mean, it was also released regionally and not like nationally is what I read as well. Oh, so they didn't get as many theaters as they were.
Didn't get as well, not just us like probably just maybe seven regional big markets or something like that. Yeah. Well, there's, there's a big reason they didn't get the big release that they were fighting for and the friend that comes fighting for. And if, and if you want to take your day out for like a date night to see a, to see a horror movie, you're going to either the Friday the 13th part six or the acclaim the fly because it was so grotesque.
So I bet you that's that was probably the reason. I can't believe I forgot it. Aliens at the same time. Aliens. Aliens. Aliens. Aliens. And followed by Friday the 13th six, Tom gone, karate could park to like, it was a hell of a month. And August is a bad time. Transitionally for horror movies, but they picked August because they thought it would get like a back to school crowd because the movie takes place in a college campus and they were like, the opportunities and everything. And it, yeah.
Yeah. It's too bad. Well, now it's, it's become a court classic and seems like it's done good on on rent tools and DVD and video tapes. Don't have that info, but yeah, it has to have, has to. Yeah. Well, let's, we'll start with Fred Decker, writer, director, producer. So Fred bought an eight millimeter camera when he was 12 and started making movies as a young kid. He gravitated toward horror and develop a passion for horror movies and then eventually went to UCLA film school.
He said he always had the movie for this, the idea for this movie. It's just been simmering in his head, deeply inspired by all the B movies he knew and loved. He just, he described, you know, the process of getting into it as lifting the lid on the stew pot inside his head and seeing what was in there. One night he had a hard time sleeping in the line, thrill me, sprung into his head. And that was the first. Oh, of course.
I said this during the pre game show because I love, I hope Scotty, I really hope you adopt this as your new catchphrase. But I think I will. It's been sitting. I'm starting to get to the phone that way. Yeah, yes. It's a very Hollywood. At the other movie when when Atkins blows himself up to save the world and destroy all the slugs just before the explosion are what's he mean? Chris, Chris Romero says, thrill me.
And I had, I paused and I rewound a little bit and I thought, because I thought to myself, it came out of fucking nowhere. And I didn't know if it was like a catchphrase I missed. Did Tom Ackon say it earlier in the movie? And maybe I forgot. It just seems like a weird thing to say about someone is about to kill themselves to save your life. And he sure did. Tom Ackon said it like three times. So it would be more than three times. Yeah. But it was that. Yeah, yeah, yeah.
Well, Decker developed the nightmare sequence around that line. You know, the whole sequence that demeaned so much from Tom Ackon's sitting there in his white tuxedo with the coconut. Oh, yeah. So yeah, he developed the character of Ray first and figured out, you know, why was he being called being a woken from this nightmare? At the time he was thinking of this, he wrote, he was making a short film that featured some college nerds. It was like a sci-fi time travel short film.
So he just lifted the two characters from that film, Chris and JC and brought them and a pretty girl he had. And then, you know, he had a story. Although I would argue the pretty girl should have better teeth. Yeah. But she's still pretty. It is the 80s. Yeah. You know, teeth were like the perfect. She already had like slight cigarettes, coffee stains on them. You know, in England, she would have been her teeth would have been a 10. So yeah, that's true. Yeah, that's true. Yeah. Original name.
Her, her front teeth were all like the side. Like her, her, I think she was very pretty. She was pretty. Yes, I think she was too. Yeah. Well, he kept on brainstorming and he thought zombies, space aliens, more pretty girls, all the quote unquote, be movie crap, put it in a blender and then he wrote the movie in two weeks. I mean, it's crazy. You can't tell. No, you can't. Yeah, you can't tell that this was just a menagerie of stolen ideas written quickly in two weeks.
This movie needs those other movies. I mean, I mean, it doesn't, I mean, it doesn't, it doesn't predate invasion of the body snatchers or the blob or just his. It's a man without a face. We can have more movies like that so that we can have a happy feel, good nostalgic time and have pizza. Right. That's right. Well, he probably had movies he inspired him.
If it makes you happy, Rob, he did not think it was all that great, but wanted to just put himself fully into it and see what kind of nibbles he got. So this was, this was Decker's first feature length film. He would go on to write and direct monster squad. He's a, a, a tales from the crypt episode and Robocop three. He also worked on Star Trek Enterprise. I mean, as we're correlating all the evidence here, it appears my side's winning without even trying.
He did the, he wrote the predator 2018 with the, which everybody actually hated that movie. I was just saying. I was just, I was just, no, no, no, no, I said everybody hated it. I personally didn't. I actually really, I really do like it. I've told multiple times on the podcast and I think to Danny and Scotty personally, I don't understand the hate that Thomas Jane gets. It's the Thomas Jane key and peel exchange that you love so much, right? No, no, I do, but I do.
But I don't understand why other people did it because I personally think Thomas Jane is incredible. But everybody, everybody hates his punisher. Everybody, everybody shits on Thomas Jane. I think Thomas Jane, I love Thomas Jane. He's the best. Oh, no, no, no, it's just, it's weird. Because I think his punisher is the best. Yeah, I have another punisher is better than Thomas Jane's punisher. And he had to deal with John Travolta and still made a good movie.
So I, I'm with you 100% on the Punisher Rob. Yeah, I think the new punisher guy, the big puffy guy, I don't, I haven't seen. He wasn't scary. I really don't know. Are you talking about Berndthol? No, Berndthol? Who did it? Carmella would notice. Race, Stevenson was the second punisher. Yeah, race Stevenson. And actually, I'm sorry, the third, Dolph Lungren was the first in Thomas Jane, then race Stevenson.
Now John, but I bet if you Google it, and I remember hearing it because Rufa's a big comic guy too, or just say, everybody loved race, Stevenson's punisher. They did, but they hated that movie. That movie is like universally reviled. Yeah, but like you can't have it both ways. You can't be like, I like, but I honestly think, I think Thomas Jane was a better punisher than race Stevenson. But James was huge for that movie. Yeah, he was really watching. He was great.
It's actually really good, I think the punisher he had. I haven't watched Berndthol series. Tom Berndthol's awesome. Berndthol. His podcast is great. I need to listen to it. I've been meaning to listen to it, but his punisher, I don't know. I think it probably gives James a run for its money. It's just because it's such a well-made series too. Well, I honestly think any really, really good story deserves series. I don't, I don't like these three hour movies or anything like that.
And I think the punisher deserve the series. I think most, I think most movies that are novelizations deserve a series because at least right now the writing people can't seem to compress a book into an hour and a half. It's the opposite. I agree with you. No, just, yeah. And nowadays, I mean, I mean, Netflix, I'm sure the budget for Berndthol's punisher was ten times what the movie. Oh, yeah. I agree with you. So the sequel to the cover, like Thomas J. and then.
Yeah. Well, like, like, so we were talking about this movie. Like this movie's got so many moving parts in the slugs and the aliens and the serial killer and the axmer and like Tom Ackin's story with like, I think is depression. It's not. I think a five or eight part series with this. I would sit in March, five or eight parts and like if they didn't like in a full from the 1950s up to present.
It would be really cool because stuff like Atkins hunting down the ax murderer and killing him, which is a story he tells in the movie would have been like that's an hour episode. And then he keeps having flashbacks about it, but you don't really like get into the flashbacks. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Well, so Decker, we talked about how he wrote the predator. Well, he was only 26 when he directed this movie. Oh, well.
Originally, he wanted the film to be totally in black and white, but then ended up just doing the 1959 stuff. He included every B movie cliche he could think of and insisted on directing himself. And most of the main characters are actually named after horror film makers. That's a little Easter egg. Yeah, I know that was fun. I heard it. You heard it officer Rainy. Rainy. I heard Rainy. Yeah, I was like, wait, I had to do some math.
I'm like, because evil dead had come out for sure, but also it was a cult hit, right? So you would have had to have seen it in theater or found the video because that somehow. And like, I was like, was Rainy famous enough yet? And I just, how many people knew about it then, you know? Yeah. And I didn't know. And I mean, clearly enough for Fred Decker to have admired him. I just, I had a problem think about that. You know, like this is the day and age of Fangoria.
And if you were, if you were a five A six, if you were a horror guy, I'm sure you already read articles in Fangoria about evil dead are a rainy verse, Craven and, you know, that it was like this little boy's car. It was like this little boy's of these guys that were rock stars. I think people that took him doing this was not even the two was eighty two. I thought it was eighty six. And so news might have been about out about. I'm sure. Two's about to come out. Right, right.
It might have been the buzz. And all that. Yeah. I mean, evil dead two was eighty seven. Oh, seven. I was thinking of the six. I think they were probably in production. Yeah, filled the eighty six release during this. Yeah. But Ramey still had a name because well, didn't originally. The old man was like 81, originally, but it was 81. I was a dark man. I don't think dark man. It's 1990. Yeah. Well, the second, the second unit director on this was Steve.
He's a minor who directed Friday 13th part two and Halloween H2O short sleeves under long sleeves under a sheet letter. I'm telling you, Halloween H2O is a sleeper movie now. I really like that movie. Once again, I'm going to continue the trend of agreeing with Rob because I love H2O. I think it's like issue two after you watch them. And actually, when you watch them in order, like we had to suffer through, it's difficult because they blur.
But the last couple of years when I go when it gets to be spooky season, I find myself watching the original and then I'm like, Oh, God, I do want to watch another Myers movie. I find myself going to H2O. Yeah. I love the second. Tell me. I think Halloween six is so bad that it is really bad. Yeah. And it's not even insulting the movie. It was not finished. You covered it, you guys covered that it was released basically not done. And it shows. But H2O, that's why I'm with Rob.
I'll skip right to H2O after two, really. I don't even hate five. I actually really like four. But I'm like, I don't have any room in my heart for that timeline. Just to take each day. Totally. Totally. They filmed this in Los Angeles at Griffith Observatory, Royce Hall, Cal State, San Fernando Valley, University of Southern California. So just all over California. That's really cool. That's really cool. Yeah. The opening sequence with aliens were actually little people and alien costumes.
Those were funny. Yeah. And I get a political hot take from Rob for a second. Rob, why do you phrase little people okay and other terms for little people are not okay? Because I don't get it. I mean, I just I still call them midgets. You're on the pulse of the culture, Rob. You do. Rob understands the people. Yeah. You can. I do think I do think I think there's only anything wrong with midget.
And then but like I can't really think of another word that's worse or that's like the rest of them are pretty demeaning and terrible. Doorks. Doorks. Doorks. Doorks is a little acceptable. But it is I think that's more to be. I think it's more to be. I think it's more to be. And I'm ignorant in this area. I mean this. It's a medical term like dwarfism is the thing. Right. Yeah. That was like it actually okay way to say it.
But because little people to me this time silly, but I you know what the fuck does my opinion on it matter? I think you can call them dwarfs once they're like ears or head take a certain shape. Okay. So that's so it's not just a lot that they have a enlarge. Yeah, it's more about their features. Got it. Got it. Got it. I'm kind of with the size. I say that we start bringing midget back though just for the show. Do we have any little people in the audience who can please comment and tell us.
Or midgets in the audience. I don't want to be another. I really I really want to know because I'm with Rob. If you all tell me midget is a bad word, I won't say it. But what I don't stop me. So get somebody to lift you up to the counter to get your to get the phone. And I got. I don't have a special one 800 number. You can call it. I don't know what I was thinking. Well, so is there. It's really difficult for them to type or write emails with their fingers.
I was pulling these weird alien goblins. I saw the very first test screen. The aliens got a laugh, which he was not expecting. I don't know why he wasn't expecting it because they looked so. They looked really so. But that was a learning lesson. They could goblins. He took that constructive criticism and learned to love the idea that it was a bit comedic. They built two alien phone rubber suits and put them on little people to get the desired effect.
And the suits had these radio controlled large mechanical heads. They weren't they weren't bad, but they were a bit silly. And when I saw it, I immediately went straight to like, oh, this is that kind of movie. Yeah, be true. You know, and it was. And it sounds like that's what he was making. No, I don't know why he would be upset about the last because if he's trying to make this meta.
Yeah. Movie. Yeah. Like. That's also you know, someone I don't get about, you know, some of these remakes and stuff like that, like, you know, trying to make it scary. Well, the original wasn't scary. I mean, you know, Friday the 13th wasn't really scary. I mean, I saw it when I was very young and didn't scare me. Like, I think we talked about the only movie that ever actually scared me to where I had nightmares, unbelievable nightmares was the exercise. Yeah. Well, same here. It was a great.
And, uh, oh, and then it when they did some pretty Kruger nightmares when I was like nine or eight, I didn't get into Freddie tall as in my teens. I was a Jason guy. But like, and then the 1991 it many serious because I was six. And my mom's a king fan. So at six years old, I was kind of peaking creepy clout behind the couch and watching that. And I thought you're saying you like peaked and when you were six. I mean, I had a mullet when I was six. I'm pretty much dead. You've peaked at it.
But no, I don't have not why evil dead 2013. I think it's the best horror movie ever made period. But and it did it did worry me. But I never like I can't imagine people were terrified of it. I still think the extra sister scariest movie ever made. Yeah, I'll be too. Yeah. I remember when, because remember, I would have been like nine seven or eight or nine, something like that when they re-release the extra sister as they released the extended cut in theaters and the anniversary.
So like mid to late nineties. And I would see the commercials on television. And that gave me that. Yeah, that's enough to do it. You know, they could only show so much. All they really did was add in that. All they really did was add in that creepy crab block. They added the spider walk. And there is a couple things in there. I'm not sure I've ever seen it now without all the extra stuff. Because I haven't seen it. I think if you just get it on Amazon, it is the extended.
Yeah, I think that's the only one you can get. And they added they made they made Pazuzu's face. That's where the light goes off in that kind of pushed it more. Yeah, that's kind of about it. But again, that movie is free. I don't think I'll watch it now, even today with the lights off. It's one of my own. It's not worth destroying my night of sleep over because that movie still gets to me. Oh, yeah, it'll get to be too. Yeah, so that that's it is to me.
It's all my two senators, which will be covering next time next time. I think I think I think I think it's the closest thing to the extra system terms of just I watched you, Mr. At night late at night, I was bored. It came on I watched it late at night in bed with the lights off and that movie. I that movie was moving was difficult. Yeah, dude, it was freaking. I saw the theaters, I think. Yeah, so it was we saw the theaters together.
So the whole black and white section was obviously over the top 50s. The acting was very stylized and over the top. Going back to me. That was kind of cool. I thought it was going to be that type of movie for like the space, you know, with like the weird aliens and then it went down to black and white with the 50 song. I'm like, all right. Okay. Right. Throw it a curveball at me here. I talked to I talked to us. I enjoyed Steve Marshall's performance actually who played JC.
He started being a PA in films as a kid. He was doing production managing and working in Yugoslavia in a mini series with Robert Downey Jr. So he flew to LA with RDJ who helped him get an agent and six months later he had the rolling creeps. Wow. This was like Pete Robert Downey Jr. Yeah. He was like something. He helped him get an agent and he helped him smuggle like a kilo of hash back from Yugoslavia to America.
Well, what's funny is Fred never explained to him why his character was disabled to this day. He doesn't know why and they never had any conversations about it. That was kind of weird. So I saw an interview with the director on him actually and he came up and I know I've been accused of turning this into a woke podcast. So at the risk of doing that.
I want to applaud the director for a moment because he said he's like, you know, I just wanted it to be more representative of all the different kinds of audience members and that's why it was important to me that he be in the movie, be disabled, but that's not a plot point.
Like that's it's not about because at the time really and even today most content about or with someone with a disability is going to be about that disability and it's better to just be like, yeah, but they're just like normal people like everybody else in their on college campus like everybody else. And so he was really just trying to be a little more inclusive. And that's for 1980, they get nowadays thinking 1986 he was ahead of the curve. And I think that's a good thing.
Well, you know, I don't know why that pisses people off to say it's bad to have some representation. No, it was good. It was like, we're going to look, we're going to have cripples, but we're not having minorities in this film. I get it. Sure. There are startling. And I don't have a whole other people, but they're going to have mechanical heads. Yeah. You didn't have, there's the one black detective, but I'm not sure that he has a line in the movie that I remember. I don't think so.
Oh, you know, off a lot of looking disgruntled, though, he showed up and he like, oh, he worked in, he worked in the dental he disadvantaged as well. So you have that speaking of, speaking of Jill Whitlow, who played Cynthia, revealed that she had a crush on Steve while they were filming the movie. Oh, meanwhile, everyone on set had a crush on Jill. Well, she was a great friend to everyone. Great friend. I'm just, I'm just, I'm just speculating.
She had just finished Thunder Run and this movie was her second lead. She heard about the movie and thought it would be such a fun movie to make. And when she got it was so excited and thrilled to be involved, it was a fun family atmosphere while shooting. But yeah, when she read the part, she felt a real connection to Jill and she calls, she considers herself naive and gullible in real life. So that worked well in the performance.
Jason Lively, who played Chris had a reputation for being the funny, hilarious guy on set. And he and Jill felt like brother and sister immediately and had a great relationship. He was the only brother who had to ask when that hand started happening. Brother and sister hand stuff. He was a jokester who played pranks on Jill and loved all the action and stuff in the movie. So yeah, was she had the crush on, you know, the handicap guy, not, not Jason Lively.
Was he really a real actor? He was he just fake. He wasn't really a handicap. Oh, so the director is a handicap. I don't know that for a certain that's not a, you know, that's not the director's fake being inclusive because he someone's acting like he's handicapped. But I don't know that maybe he really is. I don't know. That's not really too woke for Carmell.
I still think it's better than coming up with a fake Native American language that's not perfectly good real ones that you could have used. They didn't prophecy. Actually, obviously he wasn't just a Native American language. They couldn't even get Native Americans. They're all, they're all not even born. Yeah. Uh, Jill, Jill kind of had that Jennifer Tilly like voice like a really hot like. Yeah. That's like Carmella like right. Didn't she? And explains the reaction I had during the movie.
She kind of did. She had that like little like, I don't know, a raspiness a little bit. Yeah, just a little bit. I think it's apparent that the actor that Steve wasn't really handicapped because of what the fact we just talked about. How for some reason he's handicapped in the script and they never had conversations about it. That's not too woke. And Carmella because like the new, the new woke thing is like, you know, why isn't Superman a double amputee or something like that? Yeah, there it is.
They want people with real disabilities to play people with disabilities on movies and TV. I mean, you know, it's just really difficult when you say cut and you got to get them back in their cages. Uh, who's a Robert O'Neill? Not necessarily reflective views of the call. When you show, when you're wrangling them back up, you know, to get their rights.
Oh, and to every genius out there who thinks that's a legitimate legal disclaimer and I'd go, if you haven't noticed, we play a game where Rob tries to get me to say it. And he has to keep going up till he can't need to say it. So maybe, you know, keep that in mind next year. Yes. I had the great joke for a while and everybody left the handicapped conversation and came right back to it. You're like, I did get it in there, okay? The university, Korman University named after Roger Korman.
Oh, yeah. There we go in the movie. Uh, Roger Korman still doesn't know who this guy is. He can quit kissing ass. I don't know if Roger Korman knows who, what is even going on right now around it. He knows he's still cash and checks. I wonder how much he's worth. Yeah. He's not cash in those John Carpenter checks though. No, no, no, he's not cash in those. I assume, I assume John Carpenter still gets paid. He's got to.
I mean, he sold them a stock of cars and then he sold to Zombie in the Bloom House. I wonder how much he is getting paid for Halloween. No, he's getting a lot. I bet he's getting a lot. I bet he's held on to some of the rights throughout all of these transactions or is leasing the rights or is, you know, what the names touched every Halloween movie. That's true. He keeps Deborah Hill in a cage in the basement. Yeah. Her corpse. Because she died like that's right. She died. Okay. That's right.
She's on my y'all thought my cage. Yeah, his corpse has been. Her corpse is definitely down there. The special effects team were cast as the Fratt Boys who later turned into Zombie's after the bush crash. Oh, that's pretty interesting. That explains the great acting. Yeah. They couldn't pour a beer to save their life. No. Where was all the beer at? I saw it.
Well, the one guy had one bottle of beer in the back of the bus, the Fratt Boys and he's like, it's like, he's just like, he's like drizzling it into mugs all the way around. Yeah. Just one share of it. Bratzter had a beer. Bratzter had one beer. He threw it the grass. Well the friendship between Steve and JC was a big thing for Decker. He said he had that type of friendship with his friends when he was younger in college. This sort of camaraderie. So that was come. Come. Come moderate.
That's the other friendship. The introduction to Tom Atkins character was an Oma's to Jaws. Decker's favorite movie. Oh, okay. Is he redeeming himself? He's redeeming himself a little bit. No, because Jaws has got to be like lots of people's favorite movie. Yeah, you're right. Might be. And he probably could have got Roy Schneider or, yeah, he probably could have got Schneider to do this. Was this the one that he's just not? He was Schneider. He was Schneider. I don't think there's an end in it.
From the church. Oh, the introduction to, okay. I say Tom Atkins wasn't in Jaws, but his introduction was like, yeah, the dream sequence of the girl in the water. Yeah, and the coconut and got it. Tom has apparently said this is his favorite movie he's ever made. Well, this is probably the biggest role he's ever had. He's maybe just had the most fun on it. You have all these calls. Yes, he did so much stuff in this where like him Halloween three. He was a lead, but he didn't do. He's not asked.
He's peaked Tom at the end. And then in the fog, he didn't have a mustache and he had to make out with Jamie Lee Curtis. Yeah, I don't understand. You picked at her for age now. I'm 80s Jamie Lee Curtis was a smoke show and I do not understand what she was trading places yet trading places. I mean, my God. Yeah, yeah. True lies even in the night. True lies. I never I never thought she was that attractive and true. But I was young when I saw. Someone needs to rewatch the strip T.C.
Oh, yeah, that doesn't really. I need to watch. I was actually tried to watch true lies a couple weeks ago and Shannon. Well, I don't know. We didn't have time. She wasn't feeling it. But I just know I like 80s. What's the Terminator one? The girl to it. Oh, the hamster. The hamster. Yeah, the hamster. Oh, yes. That was just what girls are like. I think she would just grab your dick and rip it right off. Yeah, the Terminator two. The Terminator one. She's like, well, she's looking good.
The hair in Terminator one just doesn't do it. Oh, I love it. I just love. No, I'm sorry. Yeah. I'm hurt with you guys. So this is her. Her and Michael. The hamster. Should be clear. I love Jacqueline Hamilton too. I love it. I went back and rewatch Terminator one and then Terminator two. And I stand by it again. Terminator one is so much better. Do you Michael be it in Terminator one? It's so great. I like it. I went to Hamilton in Terminator two. Possibly more attractive.
Yeah. She just said what you, but she's so unhinged. You can't like her. I thought I disagreed. She's actually the more unhinged a woman is. She's the more attractive woman. Yeah, but she turns into the, she turned into the, she turned into the antagonist of the movie. She calls all the terrible things. I thought your favorite part about the whole Terminator franchise was, mom, mom, oh, furlong. I'd say that's the other reason why that movie does not age well because he gets worse.
Somehow furlong gets even worse. He able to just put the back in. All right. Yeah. I think we're having a challenge today. How many different movies we can talk about while I mean, I like it because it's a little snippet, little snippets. I was going to see. I don't even notice our notes are a little light for today. This is the way we're going to feel. They're a little light. They're a little light.
So, I mean, this movie to me is kind of like, when did, when did, when did that fear night fright? When did fright make coming out? Oh, for those that he, he said, I don't know when fright. I get to someone up to look at it. I have this bad habit if you asked me when anything happened in the 80s, I say 1984. The answer though for this is pretty close. 1985. Okay. So, that's kind of what this movie to me feels like is a not so good version of fright.
Which I didn't, I never seen fright until we did the podcast on it. And it has all of the meta-ness to it. But they went about it in such a way with a horror movie host and all of those things where this movie, this movie honestly feels like an anthology film, but without the anthology. The important question is, who pulls more snatch, Sarandon or Atkins? Oh, Atkins. Definitely Atkins. Oh, no, atkins. Vampire Sarandon? I don't know. That's a tough one. No, it's Atkins.
I would, I could imagine Sarandon probably has a more healthy relationship with like a significant other where Atkins does not. Atkins just out there slinging it everywhere. That's true. And Sarandon's living on that nightmare for Christmas money now. Oh, is he a nightmare for Christmas? Yeah, he plays, he's the talking voice of Jack and Danny Elfman is the voice of Jack. That's right. Yeah. So, it's still Atkins. He just drags it on the ground for some ride.
Princess Bright, yeah, Princess Bright, of course. Anyways, everything you see inside the sorority is an actual sorority at USC. It was actually abandoned. They gutted it. They made it over and dressed it up. But they did actually have to rebuild the set to shoot one section of the film. Decker is actually, he's frustrated by the pacing of the sorority sequence and thinks it's too slow. That's the part where the body comes to her window and everything. And that's when it first sort of opened up.
It is really weird because it, yeah. It is slow and then it bounces back and forth between there, like, oddly, between the front yard and then back into the building. Yeah, it's a little slow. But the effects of the slugs moving was accomplished with strings. They would pull a string in the grass or if it was on the concrete, they'd put little wheels on the things and they would just drag it. I love the simplicity of it. Yeah, yeah. They made it a little string worm toys.
They made hundreds of these things. Hundreds of them. I don't go on a cross. It was Tom's idea to stop and smell the rose on the way into the side of the house. I love that. I love that. I love that. I was such a nice touch. Right when I saw that, I was like, I guarantee that was his idea. He probably just did that when the yield action. Right. Well, he was aiming it up. I guess why he probably loves this role so much.
You know, he got to tell the story about going back and avenging the murder of his two good-sex high school girlfriend. He really got to just, you know, he went into this playing like a 1950s new war detective and he just got to like, just eat the scenery up. He was fantastic. Of course.
This is the reason why this movie continues to where right night has, I think, a following because of the special effects and, you know, it probably was one of the first real like kind of throwback meta movies and has like a reverse horror element with, is the vampire like the whole urban for a rear window. It's where this movie, I mean, this is just, if you, if you're an actins fan, this is the best actins movie you can watch.
Yeah. Yeah. I mean, just from the first crime scene, he like, oh, it's the place. He's always smoking a cigarette. What? He's like chewing a cigarette. I mean, he literally says a cigarette. He's always chewing a cigarette. He's like, I like that home. You know, he's got a shotgun. What started this actins craze? I wondered like, I think he honestly, honestly, think it was this. You think so?
I think, I think this movie became a cult following and because like all the memes, I think, like you said, come from this movie. So many, the how is the time actins? I don't know how. How is he hired for this movie? There had to have been something that kicked off. He has a young, how many three was a lead? That was 82. So that was before. I think he got to think there's something before that. Like he did the fog. He did the fog.
Okay. I mean, but those were, but those were, he's got a lot of, those are carpenter films. So I don't know. I think he was a carpenter. He's a smoking buddy or something because I think, oh, holy, he was in maniac cop, the fog. Yeah. 1980 fog. He's a very attractive guy to be. I don't know. He just has that voice in demeanor. I don't know. Yeah. He almost looks like Tom Scarrett, but he's, I don't know. He has that mustache too.
And, Well, anyway, he's Decker thought killing a likable character like JC in the film, taught the audience that all bets are off. And I did think it was weird how he happened to just light one on fire underneath the stall door. You know, It was like passing by. Yeah. I know. You did by the way, Carmel. Just let it you know. But passing him by, it just passed by and he just caught the little fuck around fire. Perfect. And he does like first try. He got it. Oh, I mean, holy crap.
If you look at him, he was in, lead the weapon is Michael Hunt sacker. He did stingray, blind justice, Alfred Hitchcock presents the fall guide. The new kids, TJ Hooker, Masquerade, the Mississippi, murder me, murder you. Okay. St. elsewhere. And then Halloween three. So he has like a stuff before. He's got like nine, he's got like nine credits between 82 and 86. I he just was busy. Yeah. He was busy.
The horse guy, he had lighting the thing, the hands doing all the work there was it wasn't JC's hands. It was a different actor. You can notice the arms are a lot harrier. And then I've never seen monster squad, but apparently there's a monster squad Easter egg written on the bathroom wall because Decker knew it was going to be his next movie. So that's interesting. That's what I was. Monster squad. Well, isn't that was not that musical thing? No, monster squad is great.
Yeah. Monster squad is fun. It's like a classic like I don't know. Grimm ones are goody's ass kind of. What's coming. Teen kids team up to fight. Monster squad, yeah, it's not man, right? 87. Oh, Tom Nunden's in it. Great. Yeah. Decker thinks that the best scene in the movie is Steve and Ray talking in his office. JC and, you know, Steven Atkins talking in his office, which makes sense because they're the two best actors in the movie. Right. Yeah. I don't think anyone was terrible.
Like there was no one that took me out of it bad, but there's definitely a little role. Yeah, yeah, the zombie with the cops where Atkins blows his head off with the shotgun. That was a mix of puppet and a guy in a suit and some zoom type stuff they were doing with the dolly and camera to make things look weird. Awesome. That zombie was great. It was cool.
Steve, I don't know why it doesn't really matter, but Steve Meiner, who I said, you know, films was second unit on this did shoot the montage sequence of all the college kids getting ready for the dance, which had plenty of boobies and a lot of you got to have a montage. Yeah. A montage. America. Fuck yeah. This sounds a little like this. I got to rewind some movie right now. It's been a while. It's been a while. It's been a while. It's been a while. It's been a while. Yeah. I'm so good.
I'm so good. Yeah. I'm so good. Not Damon, man, I'm so, I'm so, I'm so, so, Ron, me show Ron, it's it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, it's, everybody has it. It seemed to work. Okay. We need to do an episode of Team America. We'll bring back some classic comedy. Yeah, but special episode. Anyways, this seems a little excessive, but I guess Decker for the scene when J. in this reacting to listening to the recording of JC basically by while he you know dies.
Right. He put, Decker put pictures of the Holocaust on the desk around the room for him to look at in order to help him with his reaction and to be serious in the scene. Why was he in the Holocaust? He really had to get into it. Just what a read. She's mad. What is the song for the mood? I don't know. I know how much Carmelo likes me to get. That children the Holocaust. So I've got a lot of things to say about the Holocaust. Do you? Oh God. Robin, I are going to be doing our own podcast soon.
We're going to delve into those kinds of news. First episode. First episode is going to be the Holocaust question mark. So just keep your eyes out for it. Oh, goodness. Six. Roll going to jail. Oh my God. The animal Wrangler in this movie went on to work on babe. Oh, fun. Oh, the little thing. Yeah. That's a fun thing. It's a little fun. Something special. Yeah. Decker hates the dog puppet effect. It's his least favorite part of the film. I thought the dog puppet hair well actually.
Yeah. I thought some of the worst effects in it were the flame thrower effects because you went as soon as they hit the head. You can tell it's like, oh, that is paper mache or some kind of like plastic or vinyl because the smokes should you like it immediately just starts to look not good. Yeah. Well, dog was okay, except for the fact that they killed the dog. I like the cat better. I like the cat face better. The cat face looked pretty cool. It looked pretty cool.
I wish that's like I'm serious. I wish like cat would jump into my hands like she did. Yeah, right, but cats don't have any. Cats don't usually do that. They made that clear. Also, you know, Chris is his own man. Yeah, and he does things on his own terms like cat Chris. Yeah. So he is. He will jump up on a nightstand. Oh, yeah. He can scare the living shit out of you. He'll sleep on my pillow until my pillow. I don't think he knows what's going on around him either.
Oh, I think he looks like he's out of it all the time. Yeah, but see that's just that's just that's just flat. That's just that's just him playing the game. I can't know exactly what's going on. And when you start to pet his head, he like he wants that shit hard. Yeah, it starts like I mean into it. Like oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, yeah. He eats his food. He is mushers of space and into his food bowl and he itches it as he's eating. Oh, yeah. All right. Welcome to our cat.
The five of perfect cat flat face. Yeah. Do you ever want to send Persian cat documentary? No, I need to see it still. Sorry. The Persian cat document free. I walked off the sheet. You send us. All right. Unfortunately, I do have to go. No, no, no, no, no, no. You said you canceled your appointments. I canceled my tour clock. I got a 230 now. Oh, well, that's all right. We should wrap this up. Well, we are wrapping up. So famous line. Good news is your dates are here.
The bad news is there did was a sleeper one. Decker didn't write it and telling it to be noticed or anything. And then it became like the trailer moment of the movie and featured in all the magazines. They say the last collaborator of the artist is the audience. That's true. Uh, the other line. I ended up being a big deal except it was a single shot with a push up close up to it. Tom actress chewing a cigarette while it was very.
And also the shot of him spinning around shooting everyone that dolly shot. That was a great shot. That was my. That was. That should be a meme right there. Just that spinning shot of him unloading shooting spirit. That was my favorite shot of the movie. Yeah. That was a really good shot. But I did laugh out loud. I had a lot of other lines like it's Miller time. He shoots some. But he stole that. He stole that from the ghost busters.
It says it's a spoof of Arnold Schwarzenegger movies, another 80 action movies where people would shoot something with a gun and say some stupid according to that one was definitely ripped off from the ghost. But I find myself laughing out loud, especially a couple of the lines that her initial boyfriend said. He called them all. He's like, oh, he's still worried about those chuckleheads. The chucklehead from the Bratz, do the Bratz, do the chuckleheads. Some of the shit he was using.
I literally was laughing out. That was the most. Now, by no to bleach blonde dude, job done on that poor actor. I'm sure he's got chemical burns. Yeah. Because there's nothing natural about that. No, it was very no. Well, the only there is a director's cut in a theatrical cut. I believe what we all watched is the director's cut because there's only one difference. And it's the very end. The theatrical ending features like a jump scare with the dog, I guess.
Yeah, the dog runs up to Jill and Cam, Cameron while they're kissing. And she's like, oh, the dog's okay. And then the dog spits the slug at her and that's the end of the movie. So obviously the one we saw was Tom Atkins corpse basically walking away from the explosion with a cigarette. Yeah. Falling down as head exploding, the worms coming out his head going into a cemetery and then the alien ship hovering overhead with a spotlight looking for the worms I'm assuming. I don't like that ending.
Yeah. Well, neither did the studio. It was too. I'm okay with Tom Atkins falling in the things coming out and then credits, but like the extra like 35 seconds of just the ship of light. Light ship. Yeah. I hear you. Well, the audience in studio didn't know like what it was. The studio said they wanted the ending to be better. So they gave him more money and went back and did the garden shed sequence also added in the garden shed sequence with the lawnmower. And it's like that.
Yeah. I'm just going to push the movie over the edge for the better, but they just said the UFO ending didn't work because it wasn't like sort of like an ending on top of an ending. Like I understand we had to maybe go back to the aliens because we hadn't seen them since the beginning. That's why I liked that. And it was a good book. That was a good book. And I guess remember it's this eerie sci-fi. Yeah. So if you're you're relating them back into it.
Yeah. Yeah. So they decided to release it regionally. Like I said, Decker was frustrated and peded his relationship with the studio. New York Times gave it a good review despite being a technical box office failure. Nice. But yeah, over the years it's come to become a cult classic. I can see this being a cult classic because this isn't really like a terrible movie. I mean, it's just yeah, I don't put it on. Oh, speaking about speaking about children with disabilities.
Yeah. Hey, go back to your friends and get your chores done. Get him back. You're great. If you watch a video, you can see things in the background every now and then. But you're obviously only keep him around because we get a monthly check from the government. Yeah. That was great. Oh, my God. Um, anyways, I he walked in here. I don't know what he wanted to do. I didn't creeps. He just want to say hi. He wanted to see us. Yeah, his hair is out of control right now. What the heck?
He does look like a stock of broccoli. You're right. He's got that teenager broccoli hair. A razor head. Vegetales all day long. Vegetales. So, uh, next week we're going to be covering sinister to see you guys know, I know or two weeks. Uh, before you, yeah, two weeks before you jump all up inside my ass about it's not cult classic or we're expanding our horizons a little bit. We want to cover some good films. Yeah. Don't jump on me because I've been picking all the cult classic cars.
We will certainly have voted left and right. He will certainly cover more cult classic or right after that. But we all love 12 years old now. I don't know what to. We all love. I'm excited for sinister. I love to do. I'm ready to roll again. And black smoke. I mean, Ethan Hawke. Ethan Hawke had this little resurgence. Ethan Hawke's amazing. Yeah, I love him too. Yeah. Well, he, he's got great like inside the actor studio podcast.
Interviews and things that he does where he talks about how the audience isn't stupid and how new movies are treating him that way and how. And I just really, I really like him. Maybe, maybe he's very selective in what he does, but I think he knocked that out of the park with black phone. Yeah. New to sinister is. Man, sinister is top five. We thought he had top five. It's sinister. Awesome. So we'll be doing it. So watch that ahead of time if you guys want.
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The side of the. What's that noise? Not bringing back. What is that? It's just horror freak of the week or freak of the. Yeah, but the freak of the week is the horror. Or half time. There are two separate things now. We're separating them. I want. I want the siren. We could do the sirens again. It's not a siren. It's literally this screeching noise from psycho. Then we will be in Russia. Russia again. The other Russian audience.
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We gave Freddie Torres one last time and we sent him a evil dead to or evil dead canvas to hang up on his wall. So nice. Yeah. You never know. All right, guys. So yeah. There's that and I think that's it. Oh, what did you watch? I don't caramelize to run soon, but what did you watch? And you just mute yourself again, Carmelo. Oh, you got he's got no he's talking and we can't hear him, but there's noises in the background. Someone's helping me with some work at the house. There's a weed wacker.
Guys last late night with the devil. It's coming out to show. Coming out Friday Friday. Friday. What's your name? Is that theaters? Fucking awesome. I can't wait. I can't wait. I can't wait. I can't wait either. Something less strong of a recommendation for the first Omen, which I also like. Oh, you saw the first Omen, which is a slower.
I mean, they captured the tone and the pacing of the original Omen, which is very different than modern horror movies and there's a couple of things in there that really were very frightening. I thought it was both topical and true to the original. I mean, it like leads straight into the original like down to the part where they show Gregory pack. So is this a prequel? It's a prequel. And it's, it's not a hard, I had never heard about it. Never even knew this existed.
Yeah, I saw a little teaser for it. Yeah, it was very good, but late night with the devil was excellent. Oh, I am so excited for that movie. Yeah, I feel theaters, maybe I might go see it. Then I do have to run. Sorry, everybody. Okay, yeah. Later, later. What, let's see. Did you watch anything, Rob? I'm trying to see if I can. Oh, um, finished all eight seasons of royal pains, which was fantastic. I've never heard of that. It's good. It's on Netflix.
Okay. Okay. And then I discovered aquatine hunger force. I used to watch that when I was a kid. Oh, yeah. I was all all 12 seasons are on HBO. Are they? Oh, yeah, he's pretty fucking funny. I watched it. No, I was rewatching it me and Savannah have been. It's still hilarious. I love that show. And there's a little like 15 minute episodes. Yeah, it's awesome. Yeah, they're easy to watch. You just, you just put them on and just crush like 20 episodes. It's got to say like 12 minutes.
I love aquatine hunger force. I was dying. It's really good. It is great. But no, I'm waiting on a, oh, waiting. I would have level and then I guess I would watch this first moment movie. I'm waiting on a Mac. Yeah, be true. I'm maculating these to hit. Yeah, I can't look good. You watch I had. Yes, I did. What is it? It's decent. I had it. It's a shutter original. It's just good. I guess a good fun movie is not like earth shattering or anything. It's a good shutter movie. It's like just there.
I liked it. There's another one on there called like when the right person is like, I like it. It's like a person knocks or something that I was shutter has got several new movies coming out. Yeah. Okay. Okay. I was trying to see if I could pull up my watch history, but that never works. I haven't seen it. You don't need to because all your go do know it and saw do. Well, we saw it. We saw it too. We saw it. It was great. We saw it three times in theater twice. I'm sorry. Two times in theaters.
We saw it. Dude, two is great. Bunch and nerd. Draw with y'all. I finished the crowd. I just finished that. I haven't finished the crown. I got one season. I'm halfway through the second to last season where it's Charles and Diana are older. Yeah. I guess like. Okay. And uh, I was standing by my comments. It's good. I can't stand Diana. I know. Well, it was good. I had to take a break. But I do. My mom just finished it. She said it's incredible. We watched the Elizabeth.
Yeah, if you like the crown, Elizabeth is very good. It's a PBS masterpiece, but it's on the line. Forget the way it is. It's good from the horror here a little bit. Oh, here's my wife. There's not a lot of, there's not any new horror that, well, all the horror is brand new. I haven't watched any of the brand new stuff. Yeah. I need to watch. I uh, this does help actually. So I watched another shutter one called You'll Never Find Me. You didn't remember that.
It was because I watched like a week and a half. Which one is You'll Never Find Me? It was pretty good. I was thinking. It's slow. It's about a guy in a in a trailer. That's the one. That's the one I want to watch. That's the one I was telling. It was on there. It came out just before bag head. Yeah, I haven't. I haven't watched that one yet. It's a slow burn and it just kind of goes. It's good though. It's these. The acting is really good. It keeps you guessing the whole time.
Uh, it's a little bit anticlimactic, but it's a nice slow burn. Um, it's great acting and keep you guessing. I'll just say this. All right. The guy that stars in it, the older guy with the beer, he looked really familiar. And the trailer was shot really well to where it looked like, um, what's, I can't worry. But anyway, it looks like a small, close. It is. It's two characters in one location. So it's, yeah, it's pretty interesting. I still need to watch the Tom Hardy one.
It's just him in the car. Oh, yeah. Uh, lock. I need to lock. It was a good one. I also rewatched, um, autopsy of Jane Doe. Oh, good. Oh, yeah. That's great. Good. Again, that's what, that's, that's what I'd like for us to do if there's some information. I so know some of these newer movies do not come with hardly any trivia or, or any information about them, but there's so many of these days coming out. I, I remember when that came out, I think I'd pay to rent it.
And it was, it's like, sinister. It's just got this. It's so good. This ominous vibe. It's not overly gory. They just, it's, and you're interested. It's like you're, you're, you're interested in the movie. You're, it's one of those movies you don't even get up. You don't even get up to use bathroom. Yeah. You just, you know, you get lost in the movie the whole time. Yeah. And then I watched another episode of Creep Show. I've been like slowly watching some Creep Show. Aren't they good?
Yeah. I'm still in the first season. It's pretty good. But the, but the, the production value and they get, they get big name actors in some of those shows. I'm guessing the second, third season start, they start spending more money on it. Well, Greg Nikotaro took over in the second and he now, he's, he's producing it. But it's something that I've been miss. Is Tales from the Creep show? Creep show. Yeah. It's great. There's been some good episodes. There's been some good episodes.
The last one I just watched was like the scarecrow that comes down off the thing and that's a good one. You know, it's pretty good. Yeah, that's pretty good. I forgot the combo one that was with it. But yeah, it was good. It was good. I like Creep show. Yeah, that's what I watched. Yeah, that was, I didn't really get, I, I did watch not a horror movie. Last night I did watch killers, killers of the fire moon. So it was, I don't know, is that any good? It's good.
I liked it a lot, but it's really long. You might have to do it. It's three and a half hours long, man. So it's, well, I remember when we were, we were, we were 20 minutes. I remember when you was being talked about coming out and everybody was going, oh my god. And then it came out and I didn't hear anything more about it. I thought it was good. I don't know how they could have shortened or put it in the, I don't know, but I hope they're still doing it.
There were talks a couple years ago that Leonardo DiCaprio was on board to do the Jim Jones. Oh, yeah. I mean, he would make a great Jim Jones. Yeah. Because he already kind of looks like him and he has that, but I know, I'll, I'll eventually will watch the flower moon thing. I just watch it. It kills the flower. I haven't watched Oppenheimer, I haven't watched Oppenheimer either. It's so long. I can't, I can't find three hours to watch it. But I do. My parents went and saw it twice.
Wow. Wow. Because I guess they did it in the iMAX or whatever. I guess the one that swept pretty much so. Yeah. Yeah, I got to check it. I watched Hillers of the Flower and I was telling Scottie this before. Besides the female lead who obviously you always had not done for it. Yeah. I thought De Niro stole the show. I thought De Niro's great. Yeah. Were you the one that was saying or I thought I saw somebody. I know what Danny said or maybe it was an Instagram clip.
But people were complaining that I guess Leo's character. He had well outage the character. He was supposed to be playing in that movie. He's supposed to be maybe a younger guy or something. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. It's a long road. Anyways. Well, yeah. Okay. It wraps us up. So thanks for joining us. Watch the sinister and we'll catch you next time. Later. Later. Don't you blame the movies? Movies don't create psychos.
Movies make psychos more creative. No! No! No! No! No! No! How long is it? There will be blood.